FF1 NES any% no reset no RNG manip

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  • There is about 4 mins to save in the early game and i messed up a few things during the run but overall its not bad. There is also a few mins to save in the late game with Dan not dying, hitting Tiamat with Bane, and killing chaos before cur4.

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  • @TDurdenArt
    @TDurdenArt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Man this is crazy. The times things could've gone terribly wrong, but didn't. Fascinating run, haha. I enjoyed it.

  • @Eggy79
    @Eggy79 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sub 3 without resets is freaking insane

  • @Stretch213
    @Stretch213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First time im watching a run of this game. Like this.

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm glad that you enjoy it, I have some other runs with other teams if you want to see the game beaten differently.

  • @Vcimdarf
    @Vcimdarf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very nice indeed, major congratulations!
    I'm surprised you used LIT2 on WORMs instead of FIR2 on PHANTOM, who's much more dangerous IMO. Also, Dan should run against EYE and ZomBULL fights instead of fighting, but hey, that's only a few seconds. That CUR4 at the end, wow, what a stressful moment!!

    • @Eggy79
      @Eggy79 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The EYE fight is unrunnable, as are some ZOMBULL formations

  • @vampireguy24
    @vampireguy24 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't mind me, just looking through old allagan records of previous warriors of light. Their methods of travel, combat tactics, world geography are all vastly different to ours in the present. The calamities must've had a far more unspeakable affect on Etheirys than we could've realized!

  • @00coyote80
    @00coyote80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was rooting for Cid...

  • @krebyrocks77
    @krebyrocks77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cid be like, I'm helping!

  • @lordrussell666
    @lordrussell666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    u got my sub bud u did great on this game

  • @brekedekdang39
    @brekedekdang39 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice run. I recently got back into this game.

  • @nathanericschwabenland88888
    @nathanericschwabenland88888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh where have you been all my life final fantasy one why did I neglect you with my greed and gluttony

    • @nathanericschwabenland88888
      @nathanericschwabenland88888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And I know how eight but processors work too

    • @billyjoejimbob75
      @billyjoejimbob75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I neglected it too. Probably because FF3 was the first one I played.

    • @sourandbitter3062
      @sourandbitter3062 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is convincing! I'll try it out.

  • @broznar1019
    @broznar1019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    nice run, I think the most stressful for me was the ice cave, no clue how you did that one

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ice cave is always very stressful and almost every fight can be the end of the run.

  • @Francois424
    @Francois424 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This over 3 years old now, but why did you kill your thief early on? Is there any strategy to it ? (most likely yes)
    Just curious.

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The job of the thief is too flee from the first 3 encounters then die. With him dead I can split my experience three ways so my party levels up faster. The game only has 3 ribbons so your fourth will only be dead weight late game.

  • @CJHElectro
    @CJHElectro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This MUST be actual D&D.

    • @santiagogalf
      @santiagogalf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      FF1 is the most D&D-like game i have seen in my entire life lol

  • @nathanericschwabenland88888
    @nathanericschwabenland88888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t mind flashing lights it’s loud noises I cannot take

    • @nathanericschwabenland88888
      @nathanericschwabenland88888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Currently I have a Nintendo classic edition and am playing this game on a big old screen in my living room

  • @rubenabrego6762
    @rubenabrego6762 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this is a year ago but this is still amazing 😃🤩, darn ankylos 😂😆

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah that was a sad time and I panicked a bit but I still pulled it off in the end. I plan to make a faster run one day but it isn't that easy.

  • @AlanGoodman
    @AlanGoodman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Could you explain why you take a few steps sometimes before entering a dungeon, stairs, or boat docking? Amazing run!!!

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I do that to delay the next encounter. If I take two extra steps on the boat I would have gotten into a fight in two steps on land. So I take the extra steps to push that battle back like 20+ steps.

    • @notsure1350
      @notsure1350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shanezell isn't that RNG manipulation?

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@notsure1350 you could call it step manipulation, but that has nothing to do with the battle RNG. I could spend all day taking steps in and out of the boat and it wouldn't change anything. It would be impossible to play the game at a high level and not know what fight you're getting into next because the battles are in a set order.

    • @Eggy79
      @Eggy79 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notsure1350 Not really since what battles you get into is not anything random. There's a table for encounters in every zone that are the same every time.

  • @knuthansen8524
    @knuthansen8524 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This WR is the biggest achievment in human history and NEVER will be beaten!

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Haha thanks, It has been standing for a while but it will be beat. I plan to try and beat it one day actually.

    • @luigiusa7976
      @luigiusa7976 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not that special

    • @jsteen84
      @jsteen84 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@luigiusa7976you’re not that special.
      This run is special to ME

    • @luigiusa7976
      @luigiusa7976 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jsteen84 Blud stop simping you can use the internet for anything these days and you're using it getting mad online. At least I'm disabled so i have an excuse

  • @teeonezee
    @teeonezee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thats pretty amazing.

  • @richarddelo3506
    @richarddelo3506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent run.

  • @djeemy
    @djeemy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you explain why you choose this team? The Thief is pretty bad, why a thief?

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I only use the thief for two parts of the run. The first reason I pick a thief over a dead black mage is so that when he survives the first few fights he can run away from the first few battles while still dealing damage. The second is just for a decoy in ordeals that can help me run away fast. If you watch the video you can see that he is barely used but has a purpose.

  • @doctorteethomega
    @doctorteethomega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great playthrough!

  • @beefmaster7
    @beefmaster7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:46:24 TH-cam compression does not like the lava screen animation.

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah lava isn't great, it kills me lol... But on the bright side not much happens during the lava sections so it's not a huge deal.

    • @jc.1191
      @jc.1191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I noticed that too. Goes a bit crazy.

  • @thaddeuscosse9527
    @thaddeuscosse9527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn fine run!!

  • @gump2236
    @gump2236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmmm...Running from Water? You can't do that on the NES. Which version are you using? This is still pretty damn impressive!

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You can run from the Naga + Water fight, you can NOT run from water that is alone.

    • @gump2236
      @gump2236 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I am aware you can run with a Naga present. I went back and saw the Naga. Great job!

    • @SirJoelsuf1
      @SirJoelsuf1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shanezell Wait what? I had no idea, didn't know it checked against the naga and not the water elementals.

  • @TheGamingScription
    @TheGamingScription 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good job

  • @carlospunish
    @carlospunish ปีที่แล้ว

    i never liked RPGs but for the Nes thats an amazing game.

  • @Stretch213
    @Stretch213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember doing this i a 4 day rental. I dint know how my mom let me do this a 10 yearsold

  • @Rigbone64
    @Rigbone64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job!

  • @SirJoelsuf1
    @SirJoelsuf1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does this utilize a step route? Always wanted to run this game but the step routes and RNG manipulation stuff just confuses me.

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The whole game is done on step route. It's only a bit hard to start out but when you get used to it the route is actually amazing. www.speedrun.com/final_fantasy_nes/guide/8wxx3 is a great place to start if you are actually interested.

    • @SirJoelsuf1
      @SirJoelsuf1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shanezell Cool. I appreciate it. Just checked it out, yeah that's Gyre's tutorial...checked it out a few months back but didn't completely understand it. Guess I should check it out again and watch it more attentively? Who knows haha.
      Either way nice run.

  • @mithkabob
    @mithkabob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WOOO

  • @grandmasterrodimus1480
    @grandmasterrodimus1480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice

  • @DJIncendration
    @DJIncendration 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice run!

  • @SkyKing5634
    @SkyKing5634 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would the run be the same on the NES classic mini? Or is stuff different on the mini that it's a different category

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would assume it would be the same run, I haven't heard otherwise.

    • @SkyKing5634
      @SkyKing5634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shanezell ok. I think I may work doing a run then

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SkyKing5634 good luck!

    • @SkyKing5634
      @SkyKing5634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shanezell lmao. I’ll need it. Literally

  • @kyoopihd
    @kyoopihd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    19:27 It does make sense to spend money to earn money, though; that's basically the definition of investment, and we use that all over the world. In this case, if people see that your stream has 300 viewers, the assumption is that your channel is worth watching for 300 other people, which will increase their chances of checking your channel out. Further, with more viewers, you have a higher chance of being highlighted on the Twitch home page, for example. Both of these things increase the potential for you to start getting donations and stuff from legitimate viewers.
    The problem is that paid viewers give the false impression that you legitimately earned those followers in the first place. It's dishonest and gives an unstable foundation to your career, whether that's in streaming or any other business where there's the opportunity to take shady shortcuts.
    Kick ass run, by the way!

    • @Mazarakian
      @Mazarakian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah I didn't understand when he said that; spend money to make money is definitely well known and so is the tactic of gaining real followers through "mob mentality" generated by fake followers

  • @Siddhartha_Buddha
    @Siddhartha_Buddha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    where is sound?

  • @LegoGBlok
    @LegoGBlok 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could this be done faster with 4 warriors?, i always use 4 warriors and its super fast and super easy

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a run with 4 warriors and it took me nearly an hour longer with more laxed rules.

    • @LegoGBlok
      @LegoGBlok 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shanezell But don't you shave time with not have to buy all the magic? it still took longer?

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@LegoGBlokthe fast spell makes you swing twice as many times, so you deal about double the damage on your fighter with a better weapon. That can't be replaced so easily. Chaos has 100 absorb so only two of the 4 knights will even be doing any damage unless you over level with takes time. I have 3 world record times in this version of the game, I know the game pretty well.

    • @LegoGBlok
      @LegoGBlok 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shanezell thanks. and i trust you.

    • @jc.1191
      @jc.1191 ปีที่แล้ว

      Add a red wizard for the last slot for closest thing to that party, but with magic. You can steamroll the game easier and still be primarily melee if you want. You also get the time saving exit and warp spells too.

  • @moonscar119
    @moonscar119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:44:44 why did you take the ribbons off?
    Also awesome run. I enjoyed it fully. Thumbs up

    • @moonscar119
      @moonscar119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ha. Neverming because the answer is soon after where you stone on purpose

  • @jc.1191
    @jc.1191 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤘

  • @PrimevalDemon
    @PrimevalDemon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh hey 222nd like as of Tuesday August 23rd 4:13 PM 2022 if only I were a day earlier lol

  • @Mazarakian
    @Mazarakian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so why does Cid stay dead so long

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Cid stays dead for a few reasons, first and the biggest one is he takes exp from the other members. So we keep him dead so the others get more exp, but also you only get 3 ribbons so your fourth person is likely to die without those resistances. Lastly keeping him alive also takes more healing, and well I guess it also takes longer to tell him to flee which is the main thing we do in the run.

    • @Mazarakian
      @Mazarakian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shanezell word, thanks for the info

  • @princesssprinklesthecat4192
    @princesssprinklesthecat4192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wish I saw more ninja

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sadly the ninja is just pretty bad in the NES version of the game.

    • @princesssprinklesthecat4192
      @princesssprinklesthecat4192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shanezell I know which made him the hardest character to get because you essentially have a 3 character roster until bahamut

    • @princesssprinklesthecat4192
      @princesssprinklesthecat4192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I maybe got him once but this was 90s and even knowing of the peninsula of power was a big deal

    • @princesssprinklesthecat4192
      @princesssprinklesthecat4192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shanezell do you do any rng manipulation runs?

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@princesssprinklesthecat4192 www.speedrun.com/final_fantasy_nes

  • @royalpurple8576
    @royalpurple8576 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I back your quest oi

  • @sceneitallwithjeffandjon6984
    @sceneitallwithjeffandjon6984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is RNG manipulation?

    • @robertholder
      @robertholder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      FF1’s random number generator isn’t actually random, so with proper timing battles and encounters can be scripted.

  • @dondeigo9218
    @dondeigo9218 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ya man my grandmother can win with 2 fighters lol. Try with a weaker team then see how good you are.

    • @shanezell
      @shanezell  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      www.twitch.tv/videos/1208147606?collection=dZInAK-vvBaqWg