2016 Camaro SS: A Mustang owner's impressions
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- Jason from Anchor-Room.com and I give our impressions of the 2016 Camaro. What? Mustang owners reviewing a Camaro? Yep! Watch and see what we think.
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I own a 2017 Camaro 2SS, it was crazy for me because I was never interested in American muscle not even a little bit. I was more of an Audi RS5 type of guy until this new Camaro hit the scene. I test drove both the Mustang and the Camaro before I made my purchase and the Camaro was just in a different league than the Mustang. Ive driven all kinds of cars, M3 and M4, C63, S5 and even my boy Johns GTR so I know what a high end car should feel like and the Camaro is right there. The way that cars handles and sounds is amazing. If you closed you eyes and drove that car you would think it had an AMG badge on the back of it. I'm not one of those guys who is stuck on Camaros trust me I hated American cars all together but after this test drive I was loosing sleep because I couldn't believe how bad I wanted this car. So in the end I converted and ordered my 2017 Camaro 2SS and it impresses me more and more every time I drive the damn thing.
I wasn't able to test drive the Camaro, but from what I've read they do handle amazing.
Very nice. Congrats on your purchase! I own (still do) a 2012 mustang gt. I was about to pull the trigger on a 2016 camaro SS but ended up coming across a super great deal on a brand new 2014 Evo X gsr so I went with the Evo as well. As a mustang owner, I will say that the stang does not come close to the 2016 camaro SS. Chevy killed it with this one
Sky Walker I'm a German guy too and I'm looking at a 2014 BMW 335i, 2015 Mustang GT, or this SS
I was thinking a 2015 WRX STI but those have crazy problems and the whole motor needs to be pulled incase of piston damage
the funny part is that the 2017 mustang was proven better than the new m4.
camaro for me. it has better interior, performs closer to the gt350 then to the gt, and its faster. is a grade A in my book
_"it has better interior"_
Houston, we have a severe credibility leakage here
***** it does. The mustang interior looks like it was taken straight from the f150 with some slight changes
*Come on now, you're Brand Loyal and we all know it.*
Escape for Mankind i guess so
I'd choose the camaro over mustang any day... if I win the lottery or when I win I mean I'm goin straight to the dealers for a new truck and a camaro... i have just always loved camaros... my uncle has a classic and one of my cuz has a 94 that hauls ass like hell on wheels
Surprisingly objective for a Mustang fan. Good job!
Thanks! I think being able to spend a little more time with it (even though I didn't drive it) helped. I may go test drive one at some point just to see for myself how it handles. But, I can see why people like them.
The new Camaro isn't a bad car for a daily driver. It might come with 455hp, but you won't get much more out of it without eclipsing the cost of a baseline Corvette. The Mustang can put down in excess of 700hp for the same price as a well optioned V6 Camaro.
i was an auto mechanic for 25 years i have had lots of gm and fords. But ford went to that 4.6 junk ass 20 mile timing chain that was the most fail ford ever did. i love the real 302 or 289 real man use 1 cam for horse power. ty gm for sticking to what works and still smoke a 4 valve fake 302. lsx all the way or any ford with 1 cam 289-460 love them
+Guy Gordon you've obviously not experienced how easy and cheap a LS engine is to mod
Oh, they're easy... but my shop doesn't do bolt on mods. We're exclusively an open wheel race car chassis/engine fab outfit... and we do forced inducted street cars in the off season. We don't do things like cam swaps, headers and so on. If we do, it's part of a complete car build where we dismantle the entire drive train and rebuild it for an exact specific purpose. The LS is much cheaper to mod for what I like to call "minimal gain modifications." Things such as cams, headers, CAIs, throttle bodies, exhaust parts and so on. Now, when you get into forced induction (which is the trend right now), the LS becomes astronomically more expensive due to it not having the required components preinstalled from the factory... so you have to go into the engine, fix that, THEN do the forced induction. That simple series of steps are almost as expensive as the forced induction itself. That's why I said you don't see this so much on Camaros because the Camaro is already more expensive than the Mustang... and to blow one, you really do need to harden the lower internals... unless you want to be stuck with the same tiny little blower that comes on the ZL-1. Keep in mind that the base trim ProCharger available to a Mustang driver is specced over 100hp over top of the ZL-1... and that's because it is pushing more boost while the Camaro can't handle any more without dropping some significant money.
I thought this was going to be a very biased video, but it was actually very well done I thought! Good job and thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Nice review coming from Mustang owners. I've owned both Cam and Stang. New SS far superior over the new Stang GT.
I am holding back tears. Camaro is soo beautiful
I keep hearing the thing about the air-conditioning freezing your hand if you have a manual. I have a SS... with 6k miles on it and my hand has never frozen or gotten cold. Its some crybaby complaints, along with the visibility complaints. Those of you who don't know how to adjust your side mirrors will have a blind spot. I don't have a blind spot because my mirrors are adjusted to the side lanes and not behind me, and I drive to D.C. everyday so you know I am in traffic making those lane changes. As an owner I have two complaints. One is the skip shift on the manuals which I have gotten used to and I don't have to pay attention to it anymore. And two, MAJOR complaint you cant get leather seats in a 1SS. You have to get heated leather seats and then it upgrades to a 2SS. Well shit that's 5k dollars more, I just want the leather wtf? And to put that in perspective I opted to get a sunroof, duel mode exhaust, mag ride, black rims/bowtie, plus I got the metallic silver ice color that I wanted. The 5k it would have cost me for the heated leather seats would have eaten up those options and made my monthly payments unreasonable. But I would have paid for unheated leather seats that would have been cheaper. Just saying, cause I got a mortgage and a lot of other bills I pay and not everyone can afford everything! So they talked about the sunroof and said take it or leave it... Well I like my windows down, but on the freeway the wind noise is too much so I close the windows and open the sunroof and vuala I have outside noise but not so much wind and I hear my stereo loud and clear. BTW I love to drive in track mode because it is LOUD and I want to hear it with my windows or roof open. Now they talk about rear window view... who cares you can see traffic behind you when driving and both 1SS and 2SS have a rear view camera so they should stop crying visibility issues. I am not as tall as these guys by the way. I told the dealer do not touch my freakin Camaro with a front license plate or a DAGGON dealership stamp. The DC police have not taken notice.Tail lights look bitchen if you ever are behind one at night on a freeway. Did somebody die? Why all black? Mines is Metallic silver with black trim and rims/bowtie.
Wow! I honestly expected a fanboy hate festival when I clicked on this video. Far more honest than I expected. Had to wait until the comments to see the fanboy hate. LOL
LOL!
I never liked the new Camaro until they updated it in 2016. Nice specs and improved the looks. At first, I would have clearly gone with the Mustang due to price, but since the Camaro has low sales, I see the prices coming down a lot more. I might would go with the Camaro just to take the car with lower production numbers. Same idea with a Vette, just less of them on the road.
The Camaro is more rare I agree with you. But since they moved it from a CTS to ATS platform (Cadillac platforms), it has gotten very small. That is part of the reason why it performs better. So in my humble opinion after test driving one, it is too small to be considered a muscle car. It seems like a high performance bmw 3 series now... but as P51 said in this review - you'll have to test one out I guess.
***** True. I haven't test driven one yet.
Camaro is actually larger in a few regards. The Mustang sets 1" taller, both are the same length, the Camaro has a wider wheelbase, wider front track, slightly smaller rear track. I think it's design makes it feel smaller (especially the interior), when in fact it actually isn't. I do think the Mustang is vastly more ergonomic. Weights of both are almost dead even (depending on options). Add that fact that it has that nice, large OHV V8...I don't know how you couldn't consider it a muscle car in comparison to the Mustang. If anything..the Challenger is the ONLY muscle car and the Stang and Camaro are more sports car-like.
I always liked the fact that you can get a GT Basic S550 with performance pack for less than the cost of a moderately equipped 2016 Camaro V-6. The GT Basic with PP is a GREAT build foundation for supercharging. You can literally drop a bolt on ProCharger onto it for under $6,200 and get a 700hp car in 5 hours without having to modify anything. Thus, you can literally get a completely dependable, daily drivable 700hp car for under $40,000 (GT Basic will run between 33-35k with the PP option).
seeing as the Mustang and Camaro (used to be challenger too) are pony cars, they've always been geared towards road performance and not just straightline speed. the challenger is a true muscle car now because dodge is lazy as all get out. I think that once they discontinue the Viper they should bring in a true competitor to the stang and camaro. something that sits on it's own chassis, instead of sharing one with two fullsized sedans. I don't want them to change the Challenger now tho because it has it's image painted for it.
I grew up a chevy guy, when the time came to trade in my G35 coupe, I wasn't feeling the 2014 Camaro ss... so I got a base model '14 Mustang GT. Loved it so much, 2 years later I ended up upgrading to a 2017 GT prem, performance pack. The only thing I wish the mustang had was the moon roof. Or bring back the glass roof. Only other car I might've gone with is a c7 vette, but honestly, at that price point I could procharge the S550 and be just as happy.
The only real advantage the new Camaro SS CURRENTLY has is HP/TQ. I sat in one at a Chevy dealership and visibility is still an issue. Exterior/Interior looks are subjective, but I still think the Mustang is better looking in both departments. With a mid-cycle refresh coming in 2018 for the Mustang, I think Ford will address any shortcomings (performance, suspension, etc...). The Mustang is still currently beating the brakes off the Camaro in sales, even with the new Camaro being on sale. Hopefully some of the lessons learned from GT350 will filter down to the Mustang GT in 2018 along the with the new transmission (co-developed by Ford/GM). Would love to also see another GT500 or the return of the Mach 1 in S550 form.
the Mustang has nothing on yhe Camaro. the camaro is faster quicker better handling and it's a more modern and nicer car in my opinion. Only thing the GT has Is its cheaper. I love both but don't be biased the camaro is a better car
The Camaro is the better performer on the track (currently), but the Mustang is better suited as a daily driver to live with day to day, as far as visibility, suspension, and comfort. The Camaro's visibility is poor and suspension is too harsh, more suited for the track. Appearance is subjective, but I think the Mustang looks better too. I'm pretty sure Ford will answer the bell next year with the mid cycle refresh coming out as far as performance goes. A little bump in HP/TQ with some weight reduction wouldn't hurt.
As an owner of a 2016 2SS, I'm glad sales aren't as good as the Mustang. Less a dime a dozen as everyone and their uncle doesn't have one.
Chris M. mustangs are ugly as fuck
panzer waffen Not according to sales...lol. The mustang out sells both the Camaro and the Challenger. Looks are subjective anyways. People buy what they like.
I find this to be a very fair and non-biased assessment of the Camaro by Mustang owners. Good video analysis and impressions.
Thanks!
fantastic reveiw guys! great job at not making it biased at all.
I like both cars; Mustang and Camaro. However comma I went with the Mustang GT primarily because of the history and community of the Mustang brand. The seats and suspension sold me as well since I have a bad back. The Camaro, for me, was way too tight and the seats were just not comfortable. They were nice but they felt like I was sitting in a hard backed chair. The suspension amplified anything they hit straight to my spine. It wasn't jarring... it was just too uncomfortable for me. The Mustang seats hug me. They love me when I sit in it. My pain goes to near zero. The ride is wonderful on the highway in the Mustang. So, for me it was community, history, suspension and wonderful, loving, seats that support my back. Will never get rid of my Stang
Excellent review! I could tell you were trying to give as much of an unbiased opinion as possible. I wish more people could do that. Great job guys.
Thanks, I agree, more people should try and be unbiased instead of brand loyal.
I had both. The 67,82 85 92 Mustang Gt and the 69, 70, 81, 86, 2010 2SS RS Camaro, and the 2017 Fiftieth Anivery adition 2SS. Everyone keeps talking about the blind spot on the 5th and 6th gen Camaros. After a while you get use to it in a good way. You know it's there but your mind gets use to where you have look so it won't be an issue. I can take it through a road course that changes every month and not have a problem like when I first start. That's with wearing a helmet also. It becomes second nature. I'm not just jump in the car and forget it is there. Learn from it. It will make you a better driver. I think my 2006 GTO had worse blind spots tjan my 6th gen Camaro does.
Good video, I like both the Camaro and the Mustang. I went with the 2016 Mustang GT w/auto transmission.
I am a current Mustang owner looking at both of these cars, so I guess I'm your target audience! You guys have a very level-headed and informative review style, good stuff! If you do this regularly, maybe you could have some reviews where you are driving around in the car while discussing it so we could get your firsthand impressions of the drive, handling, power, exhaust, etc.
Thanks! If I get access to another car that I can spend more time with, I'll definitely take that approach.
I was in between quite a few cars, the Camaro was included. I ended up with a 16 Mustang GT. For me it was so much more comfortable interior. I absolutely love the interior on the Mustang, hate the look on the Camaro.
Another factor was sound. A V8 Mustangs is one of the best sounding vehicles you will see on the road. Camaros sound good as well, its just preference. I prefer Mustangs and WRX/STIs.
The Mustang is just a overall sexier looking vehicle.
Nothing against the Camaro at all. I've always been a import dude. But the 15 and up Mustangs are amazing cars I would recommend to anyone in the low 30k range.
I agree, Ford did a great job with the interior of the Mustang.
yeah but camaro just tore the mustangs ass the regular ss takes out the gt track pack. but I agree both good looking cars.
*The Mustang GT is getting a Major Refresh.*
I'm a professional car builder and driver. For me, the S550 is a superior foundation. It comes from the factory with an 18psi boost rating (forged internals from the factory). The 2016 Camaro can only be boosted half as much on stock internals. To make a Camaro competitive for track use, it costs tens of thousands more than it takes for a Mustang. The S550 can be daily driven at near 1,000hp for a TOTAL build cost of just under $60,000. A stock Corvette costs more and you can't put a Camaro over 600hp without completely rebuilding the lower internals. That brings its build cost to close to $70,000 just for a 700hp Camaro (the ZL-1 will cost about that much when it's released).
I don't usually care much for interior appointments as I remove it all anyway.
I agree with you man i have a S550 GT myself and its a much better Foundation car to build the engine than the stupid Camaro ss and not to compare the looks of style inside and outside of the two most people agree with that 100%.
The reason I love my 03 cobra fully forged engine.
Believe me that camaro can handle more than 9 pounds of boost. There's 5.3 chevy truck engines making a 1000 hp on stock internals and heads for a good long while (although their cast iron blocks) and those are junk yard engines with 100,000 miles plus on them most of the time . Please tell me more about why it takes thousands of more dollars to make a camaro ready for track use....... a car like the zl1 that has magnetic ride suspension and massive brakes on and on really dude ? That gt 350 is going for way way more than msrp. In fact it goes for a bout 70 grand. I am pretty sure you need to change out the piston's on the 5.0 for over 600 hp and install a billet oil pump because they like to blow up. That dual over head coyote engine runs like a rapped ape no doubt and naturally aspirated the push rod runs short but it wins on size and can have more cubes for that given size with more low down torque usually but it even's up when you start talking boost. That 5.0l is massive. Do you really race road course or drag race ? Because 1000 hp is about useless anyways if your just gonna smoke the rears tires everywhere and lose time
CalypsoNotch408 I've been building open wheel race cars since the late 1990s. If you like, go build a new 2SS or better Camaro out to 4 digit horsepower (safe hp). If you can do it and it still be a daily driver for under $70,000, send me a private message with the build particulars and I'll hire you to build more of them. But, I know that it isn't possible. Feel free to prove me wrong.
james dean The stock Coyote comes from the factory with fully forged internals and the same OPG as the 2014 GT500. You really don't need to change anything for boost levels up to 15psi. You can get 1,000hp off of that amount. Mine has an upgraded OPG because mine is spec'd to use an F-1R head unit that produces 25psi. That was my point in the comment... the new Chevy engines are not forged and they do not have reinforced piston sleeves. Some older engines did... but we're talking about the LS7 to newer LT1 engines. The Z06 and ZL1 cars are using very lightweight blowers (7-8lb). They make little more than half of the horsepower of a common ProCharged Mustang... and both of those will cost right at double the price of building a ProCharged Mustang.
LOVE the performance of the SS but LOVE the way the GT with PP looks! If the GT drove like the SS, they couldn't keep them on the lots...
Agreed, but that performance comes at a cost. Which is why the Mustangs are consistently outselling the Camaro's already. The thing I like about the Mustang is that there are so many aftermarket options that you can do to make it what you want. If you just want to buy a car and not mod it, then the Camaro would be a good option.
so basically it's like a ricer all looks lol😅
Good video guys. Informative and non biased. Everyone has their own opinions on cars.....subjective to taste.
I agree. Everyone has their preference!
The only real things keeping me from a camaro is 1) price, and 2) mustang loyalty
Why be loyal to any brand or model when there are so many great cars to own? If I only stuck to one brand I would never have owned my twin turbo 300zx, C5 z06, C6 z06, GTR, or viper.
where the fuck do you get the money for those? drugs? cause working isnt rollin in that much dough for me.
*isnt
SkankHunt42 toys'r'us sell other cars too(porche,BMW etc)
pretty impressed of the objectivity by the mustang dudes... props. the taillight blackouts make a huge difference
Thanks!
yea i had a 20110 camaro ss i traded for my 15 gt only thing i miss is the sunroof lol
2010 lol
I really wish Ford would have had at least a glass roof option on the S550's.
What do you like about the 15 over your Camaro?
2010 and 2016 very different.
The 5th gen Camaro is just shit. I'm sorry, any GM fanboy can fuck right off. I owned two 4th gen f-bodies, and LOVED the cars. But in 2011 Ford just put out a better product, and turned me to the Mustang. My 2013 Mustang GT has yet to lose to ANY 5th gen f-body, let alone one similarly modded. While I look forward to facing off against a 6th gen, I actually respect what GM did with the 6th gen Camaro compared to the crap 5th gen... Performance wise, I still think it's ugly like the 5th gen :)
black with black rims looks baddasss.
I drove by the Chevy lot the other day and drove an SS. I was surprised that the visibility thing was not an issue for me. I had no trouble seeing all around. I thought it was comfortable and very tight. Certainly had just a bit more acceleration than my Audi S5.
Main issue I had with it was the rear window. But, I'm sure it's something that you could grow accustomed to with enough time behind the wheel.
Great Review! I'm planning on purchasing a 2016/17 camaro with Manual transmission, and I've watched tons of videos about them... but you guys were the first to mention the cold hands for manual drivers... I've would of never thought about that...
Thanks for watching!
I like Both Mustang and Camaros but the major draw back for me on the new 2016 Camaros is the Direct Injection on all the engines from the 2.0L turbo to the 3.6L and 6.2L. The Carbon Build up will be a big issue on these cars because we all know oil vapor gets pulled through the intake system and without fuel to wash off the intake valves that will be a constant maintenance issue that will need to be addressed. Nice Camaro but I would still take a 5.0L port injected or even the 3.7L Mustang. Direct Injection was designed for better fuel economy and performance due to government restrictions but at the expense of the customer when he or she has to bring it in every 20-40k miles and pay 700-1000 dollars to have carbon build up removed. In my opinion they made the pushrod motor more inefficient in the long run.
Good point. We'll have to see in the long run how they hold up.
very nice review from a Mustang owner.. good job man. I'm not really a big fan of Camaro's but I did go up against a stock 1SS M6 in my Lund flex tuned, exhaust, CAI 2014 5.0.. Lost by almost 2 cars. Those SS, lighter and f*ckn torquey as shit.
As a Mustang guy I can't see myself jumping ship but after that race, I gotta give props to their performance.
Thanks! Agreed, the Camaro's are beasts on the track.
You know, being a Camaro fan and all, I was expecting him to point out every single part of the car that was even REMOTELY bad about, but was pleasantly surprised. Even after giving a bias warning, you didn't stay biased about the Mustang. You talked about the Camaro from an extremely unbiased point of view, and I enjoyed the video.
Thanks! Above all, I'm just a fan of cars. I love my Mustang but can respect and appreciate all types of cars. Plus, the competition between Ford, Chevy and Dodge benefits us all in the end, as they try to out do one another. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for responding. To be fair, the Challengers and Mustangs are forces to be reckoned with, as well as the Camaro. Also, just to let you know, some of the best ones are the 69' SS 396 Camaro, 71' Challenger R/T, and the 69'-70' Boss 302 Mustang.
Agreed, it's hard to compete with the classics!
Yeah, and I'm only 13. I study cars way too much.
Nothing wrong with that!
I'm on my 3rd mustang only car I have ever had ... and I can honestly say the new Camaros are good looking cars
Hey Guys, yeah...thanks for not trashing the car, and just being honest about it, like so many other Mustang people would have done. (Camaro guys do it too.) We have to be grateful that we are alive at a time when we have a choice of some very nice, affordable muscle-sport-pony, or whatever you want to call them, cars. Honestly, I don't knock any of them. I'm a Camaro and Challenger guy and even though I've never owned a Mustang, let alone a Ford, in my life, all of the vehicles in this niche are beautiful and hey, without all of the competition, we all may be still looking at something like a 1983 Challenger. (If you don't have a clue as to what a 1983 Challenger looks like, Google it....and weep at what you see.) Great video, and Thanks again.
Thanks for watching! I agree completely, competition is good for all of us.
Great video, I've test drove both still love the 15-16 Mustang and it is the best bang for the buck what gets the Camaro is tech and performance. Interior I will disagree with you all, both cars still have equal amount of plastic in them. 12 O clock indicator only comes on the gt350 wheel, witch I have one.
Thanks! That's correct, Jason and I both have the GT350 wheel as well. He wasn't saying that the GT's come with the steering wheel, he was just pointing out that he liked the Camaro steering wheel even though it didn't have the indicator.
That's so cool. beautiful sport car inside/out!
Congrats!😎😎😎😎✌
Funny thing is although I'm a Ford guy at heart (owned 4 mustangs including a '11 5.0) I own a SC 08 Corvette C6. I bought the car due to the performance potential, easy to work with and overall cheaper parts with the LS engines. My buddy has a '16 GT track pack and I love the looks and interior of the car. Performance wise, I'll take the camaro even though I've never been a fan of them except the late 60s and this 6 generation. The back end is very bland though. Now, I also own a 2016 F150 with the 5.0 and love it too. I love the coyote engines, but honestly in N/A vs N/A form the 6generation camaros will stomp on the s550s all day. Forced induction is a different story as the 32v dohc engine will with its airflow and rpms potential.
Cool, nice to hear from someone that has some experience with both cars.
I can't hate it, but there are a few things that just don't appear "thought through" by the designers. I do like the LED piping in the interior. As a lighting fan, that's a nice touch. The center touchscreen looks like it was just stuck there with very little thought. That's a negative I just can't get past. The AC vents in the middle and the controls/display above them, again seem out of place. Exterior looks pretty good and menacing, but how many reflectors does a car really need? This is not a Schwinn, it's an American muscle car. Overall, it's a cool car. Would I own one instead of my S550? Not a chance!
Great video, as always!
Thanks! I prefer the S550 too.
When it comes to options and performance, the Camaro has the Mustang beat soundly, to the point that it rivals the GT350. Any preference to the Mustang over the Camaro 95% of the time is aesthetics.
I was waiting for the comparison of how they drive and lower delivery and such. Good, unbiased comparison of the aesthetics though.
Yeah, unfortunately I didn't get to drive it. Jason did drive it, but didn't want to beat on it since it was a customers car.
This was one of the most mature and non biased review/impression videos across to a competing vehicle such as a Mustang owner as yourself talking about a Camaro, or even vice versa. Very nicely done.
Thanks, I appreciate that!
Thinking about grabbing one!
As a owner of a 2014 Camaro and 2010(Crashed) and 2016 Mustang (replaced 2010) .... I rather drive the Camaro as a daily and the Mustang less, the Camaro ride is smoother to me and despite visibility more practical in terms of drive quality. The 2010 Mustang was more fun but loss traction easily. the 2016 has better handling but still not a better daily driving car than the Camaro but I have more fun in the Mustang as it feels more nimble and smoother at high speeds when i want to do a little spirited driving late nights
Good Review...I know its not a Full review But you missed some points
1- The Backseat are way to small than the Mustang
2- The Wireless charger is useless unless you got an S6
3- The A/C cycling is not that good specially for those who in the backseats
4- The set-belt is so annoying when someone want to set in the back
5- The trunk is small and is a shape that wont help you with most of the Traveling Bags
I found out about all of this when I was about to buy a 2SS 2016 few months ago and I'm glad that I didn't, I believe that there is who share the same thing.
All good points, thanks!
yea cause a camero is a fucking taxi with people in the back seat all day.
Nobody buys a Mustang or a Camaro for the backseat room. However, it is worth noting that the Mustang has a little more room if you're doing a comparison between the two. At the end of the day though, I agree that nobody is going to base their decision on that.
I think that I said that there is some who share the same with me, cause when you are a father with kids you want to take them out with you at least 1 time a week.
and I used to suffer from that when I had the 350Z and Z4.
This was a good idea for a video. I don't care for the dash on the newer Camaros. and I guess there is still some visibility issues in it. Still a good "reaction" video.
Thanks, it took me a while to figure out how I wanted to approach this video. Because I didn't actually drive it and Jason didn't want to beat on a friends brand new car, it was hard to get enough info to do a full review. But, I thought it was interesting to see it up close.
I honestly thought i didnt like the new Camaro, untill I seen this video...Idk maybe it's the color combo but I think its a nice car! The main factor tho is what you said, the price! Even tho i like it I'd still have to choose the S550 even if the msrp was the same.
The one in the video was fully loaded. So, the color combo does look nice! I never really cared for the Camaro until I took a closer look at this one.
The 6th gen Camaro are lit definitely gonna consider getting one even tho I want a mustang everybody has one so Camaro it might be
As much as I love camaros, I agree to the view from inside the car being too narrow, and the cheap materials they use in the car are the downsides of the car. But other than that, it's still a nice car, and they improved a lot on materials compared to 2013 model
For me, the positives are that you have a sunroof and way better looking seats than the mustangs. Two negatives though, why is the screen in the middle pointing down instead of up towards the driver, and they just never seem to get the tail lights correct.
I'm a fairly serious Ford guy, but I prefer the Camaro in general if it were down to simply pony car models. I guess I just prefer rock and roll to hard country, figuratively speaking.
You guys hit the nail on the head with that center computer. It looks like it was an afterthought and does not flow with the rest of the interior. Otherwise it looks very nice. I would drive one. How does it ride compared to the mustang though? I remember old camaro's being very stiff and would raddle itself to death. And it felt like I couldn't see well in the old camaro's because you sat so low in the car, which made it difficult to see. The ride and seating position is why I fell in love with mustangs. For the money though, I think i'd get a vette if I was to get a Chevy.
I like the camaro more since it just appeals to me more and is much better performance wise over the gt. but if I were to be offered a gt350, I would take it on the spot!
If someone offers you a GT350 for free, get me one too! LOL! Thanks for watching!
exactly, i also hate the tail lights in the camarosix. And that spoiler also seems out of place in this car. Other than that is a beast.
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I have mixed feelings on it, and the generation before. It's a car that looks good from some angles, but I still think the rear end is ugly. The interior, as well, is not appealing. I do like the leather seats, they looked good and the leather work on the inside of the doors. That display looks like it's some sort of aftermarket display that's hanging on the dash. Not well done, IMO. You can't argue with the horsepower... that's where Chevy gets it right. I did like the headlights, as well. And as you pointed out, it's nice that it has a sunroof. I still don't understand why the Mustang has no sunroof option. I would love one.
I definitely think the S550 has more appeal than the Camaro, unless you are a die hard Chevy guy. I think inside and out, it is a sexier car. But the Camaro is not a bad car. I'm not knocking it just to hate on Chevy. They have had some cars I liked.
Anyhow, I enjoyed the review.
Thanks for watching! The Camaro is definitely a nice car, but my preference is still the Mustang.
Keep up the good work!
The handling of the new Camaro is on a different level compared to the Mustang and Challenger. The price is too so I don't know if Chevy will stay with that philosophy. Always liked the more exotic look of the Camaro for the most part.
Yeah, you pay for the additional features. And based on sales numbers, I don't think Chevy made a wise choice.
It's still selling better than the Challenger so I hope they stick it out. If Ford wants to be like the McDonald's of sports cars that's cool too. Each brand should have it's own identity.
"The McDonald's of sports cars" LOL! I think what Ford realizes is that they can put money in the right places and leave upgrades to the aftermarket retailers. I mean, the S550's don't even come with hood struts. But, I'm fine with doing my own upgrades. The 5.0 is a good place to start.
2 things I wish you would have added, is which one generally sounds more growley? Also back up cameras. Which is more sharp/clear, better at night? Thanks for the video guys.
I had an 02 Camaro SS with no front plate and got a ticket for it. I looked around and noticed 50% of the cars on the road have no front plate, especially cars like the Corvette. They said if I mount the front plate and show the court, the ticket will be dismissed. I used zip ties so I wouldn't have to drill into the front of my car. I took off work, went to court, and they said it has to be permanently mounted. I got ticked off, popped off a little and gave them $100 bill for the ticket. Took off the plate and left it off.
LOL! There are a lot of people that hate the front plate. When I bought my car they had already drilled in to it. I could still take it off and get bumper plugs, but I just don't want to deal with the hassle. Although, it does look way better with no front plate.
Move to Florida. No vehicles have front plates here.
Great job of this video. I love watching your videos. I think I would have to agree with everything you both said about the Camaro from what I can see of it from the video.
The seats are lovely, the digital dash and technology are a real bonus. The screen in the middle just is not right as you both said. I love the body styling.
It would be nice to see another video of this car continued from this one, I found it very interesting.
Thanks for making it.
Stew :))
Thanks for watching!
The SS badge just sitting on the bumper down there looks so weird, it belongs on the deck-lid.
I never thought about it, but I agree with that. I always have trouble telling Camaro's apart. On the deck-lid or fender would seem to make more sense.
I"m a Camaro owner and love Camaros but damn, I really don't like these tail lights.
Yeah, I like the headlights a lot better.
I hate these cars visibility. I'm 6'2 n can not see shit. I wanted to drive my cousin maro since I'm a stang guy. I was glad to get out of that box
Chevy is making these cars for midgets. Im over 6 feet and cant fit in the new camaro or corvette. Go look at jay leno garage. The lead engineer is 5 ' 7. This is first time ive ever thought the new mustang looks better than the new camaro. Cant believe im saying that.
I too am 6 foot 2 inches, and own a 2013 ZL1 and I have no visibility issues. And I have driven the new SS, and I can see even better out of it. This visibility shit must be people that are looking for something to bitch about, or are just hating with biased views.
mfnbigdaddy73 your not 6'2 then
Bol lie about my height? . Or even take my time to make an honest opinion that u don't like lmao . Right ! Juss shutup n stop replying cause you are getting no where with this .
Allen Atkins You trying to tell me that I'm not 6'2" , you ignorant fuck, just because you didn't like what I said. LMAO
I know how tall I am, a have no problem seeing out of the 5th gen or 6th gen Camaros.
So STFU because you are getting nowhere with this.
Great review/impression.You guys really did a unbiased true to fact comparo! Being Ford guys I didn't expect the honesty! See we can agree to disagree peacefully..lol
Thanks, we tried to be adults about it. After all, it all comes down to preference in the end. There's no need to hate people because they like something that you don't.
I thought the mustang owner was gonna say something like"I mean it doesn't handle crowds the same" 😆
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This Camaro SS is DEFINITELY a sports car I’m getting pretty soon...just gotta continue paying off my 2017 Escape!!! 😂😂😂😂
Lovin it but man that spoiler is fugy don't care if it's functional i'd get it removed...looks like some 90's jc withney JSP corolla spoilers
The newer Camaros are a little less 'bulky' looking than a few years ago, so that's good. But I still wouldn't get one. I am an older Mustang owner, and loved it, but it's probably time for something other than a muscle car. I'm thinking a 4x4 Jeep. Still unsure though.
I've drove both cars that were standard not some automatic bs. Camaro handles way better and rev matching is easier than the mustang. Also the Camaro is faster too but the mustang is a bit more comfortable
I still say the people doing the reviews should be completely impartial but at least these guys aren't attacking the Camaro at every turn like most mustang fans do
As a 2011 2ss owner and a full time ford technician I get a lot of flack for driving a Chevy but I liked the review from 2 mustang owners I like the look but I will stick with my car cause it's like looking at a 67 vs a 69 Camaro I've got the 67 but love the look of a 69 but there isn't much difference unless u look underneath to see the engineering
hand getting cold? man, you guys are reaching hard for complaints.
I don't think you were listening closely enough. I said that I heard of others complaining online about it. It didn't bother either one of us, because it was an automatic. But, even when you try to give honest feedback, I guess people hear what they want. It's whatever, bro.
And it's a lot more safer than the mustang or challenger.
The only think i love about this Camera is the seats, everything else is out of place.... my opinion. Looks like Silverado with body kits
nice video. personally I'm a Mustang fan, but I will admit the 2016 camaro headlights look pretty mean
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Camaro´s can have a sunroof which is great for me since 30years !
I will never buy a car without it; so sadly a Stang is a nogo.
most thing i hate on new camaro is the little trunk inlet and the view out of the cabin and these 2 huge bulge over the gauges.....that sucks.
Does it have 8 years of motor ticking issues like the Coyote 5.0 does? Cause if not, I will definitely sell my shitty 16 5.0 thats ticking at 23k miles and get one of these.
may test drive both cars. I'll have my opinion later.
Can't wait to hear what you think.
Okay, I test drove them both, finally. Camaro actually drove better, very lively chassis and power train. Yet, I couldn't see out of it that well. I almost hit a curb. Also, it was way too techy to me. It's not very intuitive to me. As for the Mustang, it was very intuitive. Yet, I would take the Tremec from the Camaro & put it in the Mustang with 3.55 gears. You'd be shifting a lot and it's very notchy. Yet, I prefer the looks the Mustang over the Camaro (it kind of looks like they chopped Mad Max's Ford Falcon XB.) I do like the interior better in the Mustang, also. Yet, I'm aware of the Mustang getting beaten by the Camaro in performance. Z/28 vs. GT350, on track it would be Z/28. Yet, there is one car I would pick to have, and that will be the Mustang. Because I could live with the Mustang more than Camaro. Camaro could've taken it if it was more intuitive and visibility wasn't a problem, and that's where the Mustang gets my pick. Thank you.
Good feedback! Thanks for your input.
I have absolutely 0 issue with visibility aside from when I come to an intersection like this /| since it is hard to see past the C pillar.
Yeah, I figure that it's something that you could get used to. The rear window is just a bit of a shock when you first sit in it if you're used to having a bigger one. But, I'm sure I could adjust to it.
Most certainly lol. The first time i sat in it it felt like a tank.
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I haven't liked the camero since they changed the body style in 78 or 79.
GM couldn't put the rear view camera/ mirror setup from the Caddy in the Camaro? C'mon
Is that what the Caddys have? That be cool. Not really bitchin about it coming on in the nav center though. I mean at least it still has one.
That's pretty sick!
I chose '17 Mustang GT. actually really loved the Camaro but THE PRICE! I saved almost $10k going Mustang. Back in July there was really good deals from Ford.
Yeah, Camaro's have a lot of nice features. But, you pay for the extra's. Although, I would love to have the HUD.
Norfolk, VA 264E...nice strip to run late night after rush hour.
That's true
Nice job guys. Like the comparison.
Thanks!
what does the s550 Mustang stand for ?
body style hasn't really changed since 2006 couldn't drive a car that only changes the bumpers and a few other things over 10 years
Hi Jeffrey, are you talking about the mustang or the Camaro? This is coming from a current Camaro owner (I've had mustangs and Camaros) but the Camaro ceased production in 2002 and then resumed in 2010. So the current body styling has been around since 2010. Also, the same thing could be said about the mustang since the 2005-2014 didn't change a whole lot. I've noticed he same thing though, they only make subtle changes but every company seems to be doing that.
Only two badges carried over from the 5th gen.
Yeah, but they kept the same styling cues and general "look and feel." Both have abysmal visibility issues, both use different, but equally antiquated V-8 engine tech, and aside from figuratively shrinking it... the Camaro looks very similar to its previous gen. The S550 carries over the V-6 and Coyote powertrains from the previous gen... but the S550 now comes with fully forged lower internals and a more advanced fuel delivery system. We all know the S550 is a complete makeover in terms of look and feel.
I'll get excited about Camaros again when they join the 21st century and start making engines that aren't old school, inefficient lightweight single cam engines.
Yeah, because fuel is more important than a better and more powerful engine.
camaro gets better mpg and outperforms the mustangs in 2016. inefficient? no not at all. old school? its direct injected ,it goes into 4 cylinder mode on the hwy. have you compared the power band of a pushrod v8 to a ohc? you really have to wind a ohc out to feel the power. plus more moving parts.
love the camaro for me. my only gripe is that goofy looking gas tank muffler. it's definitely gotta go
The Camaro is by far the better car v6 model on up to the Z28 over all just a amazing car
Wonder if there was some hesitation in discussing performance differences...you know...where it really matters ;)
No hesitation at all. As mentioned in the video, it was a customers car so we couldn't put it through it's paces like we wanted to. However, it's pretty well documented that stock vs stock, the Camaro outperforms the Mustang. But, that's what aftermarket parts are for. :-)
The mustangs are ugly to me but I'm bias just because I hate fords and love Chevys
Hey, nothing wrong with that. Everyone has their own preferences.
I love the engine in the Camaro. I would have chosen it instead of the Mustang if it wasn't for the horrid visibility. It doesn't feel like a tank. It feels like you're in a freaking coffin. Can't see behind. Can't turn around and look at blind spots either.
this is true the horrid visibility.
Must be a short dude...
If 6'4" is short, sure.
Kris Vladimirov Sure you are....lol
i.imgur.com/qWpPw62.jpg Why would I lie?
I have had a 2015 GT California Special.... Great look and feel but i heavily dislike the new Mustangs which to me have a more reserved feminine look to them.. They are calling them a more European look but i can't get with it, the Camaro SS has the advantage to me for sure.
I meant 2013 GT CS
I actually didn't really like the 2015 Mustang either when I first saw it. But, it grew on me. It was redesigned to appeal to a global consumer base since the Mustang went world wide. But, the fast back design is a throwback that I actually like. But, everyone has their preference, so I can respect yours.
+16P51-GT I agree I wasn't a fan of the new design when I first saw it I felt like it looked like a Ford Fusion but it grew on me as well I have a Guard Metallic pp with dark saddle seats and I love it like one of my children
Camaro has a terrible back. The Tail lights and the rear bumper must be redesign.
And the truck dash in front of the driver... The rest is ok.
Needs the full led headlights
Yeah, I like the front a lot more than the back.
I'm not a ford guy or smth, but the mustang, like it or not, looks like a real car that was built with real iron... Camaro looks like a plastic toy. Looks cartoonish. It is faster than the stang, it sounds better, but there is smth in its design that throws u off from it.
I'm a Camaro guy - have owned 4 of them - 3 1st gens and a 3rd gen - but I have to agree about the back- Chevy should just put a crease down the middle since it already is butt ugly.
strange they look pretty similar. most notably from the sides.
That dash screen looks like someone bought a Jensen unit from Walmart and installed it after a few beers. What were they thinking? Also, the exterior is just boring IMO. It was a simple choice when I went shopping for a "muscle" car. But to each their own!
LOL. I never did like the dash. Your explanation is spot on IMO.
compared to the 80's style analog gauges , yes to each their own
Have you seen the mustang gt dash console? It looks like some shit from the 90's. Freakin nothing but analog dials.
I love the dash on the S550. the only draw back is its no option to have a digital speedometer. Overall the looks and lighting is great.
The Camaro looks more like a super car in the early 2000s trying to be futuristic then added a standard dash from Grand Prix. Interior just looks kind of odd for a 40k in 2016.
The screen looks the way it does to cut down on sunlight glare for easier reading of the computer display.
Nicely done review
Nice video, I have a dream and that dream is all Camaro and Mustang Drivers will drive as one!
never happen bruh
+terrace Robinson well not with that attitude lmao :P
shut up..................
+Sahadi420 na I'm good learn how to talk to people first keyboard warrior I'm not wasting my time with dummies like you LMFAO get good
relax man, I'm kidding.
What response do you expect to get with that??? LMFAO Do you have a dream that snakes and rats get along too?? ;)
Mustang S550 much much better inside & outside i hate those disgusting taillights on the Camaro the front isn't bad but the back is terrible !!!
Agreed, I think the S550 is the better car in terms of style.
I own a 16 2SS, and if i had the funds id own a Mustang and a Challenger too lol. I just love American muscle.
I agree.
why are these muscle cars with the V8 still losing to a Hyundai Genesis V8 ?
speedtime Genesis v8?
but they aren't lol. genesis 0-60 is 5.2 and SS 0-60 is 4.0
For the price of 42k-45k ... I'd purchase a V6 S550 and Mod it with grill deletes and more items! Purchase a Procharger and Air Filter and Smack that SS 😂😂😂😂 back to back like Drake Said
Great commentary!
Thanks!
Great review.
Thanks!
isnt the blackouts illegal?
In most places probably.
As long as the break lights are visible from 500 feet it is legal, atleast in Texas. The dealership I work at offers a blackout package done in our own shop.
Blacking out your lights, that is illegal!