I have been following you for a long time now and your dogs are great. Your "problem" I think is the way you want your dogs to look and how much time you want to spend creating your perfect farm dog. You want less prey drive but outcrossing to a SBT ( even though yours is very chill from what ive seen) isnt an outcross I would do. It is still a terrier. There are better breeds to outcross and get want you want but those look nothing like a Bulldog. You are focussing to much on breeding the perfect farm dog but I think if you focus more on actually training your current dogs you will have much more succes in getting that allround farm dog. The problem if you go this way its going to take a lot of time and dedication.
I appreciate the input and agree with everything you said. I had too many dogs before and couldn’t give them the one on one time they needed although I was out there for hours everyday after work with them, but there is no way most of them dogs would’ve ever been what I wanted. If there first instinct is too kill every animal they see then you can NOT back them off enough to get them to where I wanted. That was my fault though because I bought the wrong dogs. Also, I have tweaked my desire of what I want my dogs to do once I was injured. I just can’t get around like I used to so I don’t want to be catching with my dogs. I also know that this cross is potentially going in the wrong direction but I have to breed what I’ve seen works. There is another potential cross that I will consider but it’ll be down the road some time. I don’t necessarily care about the “looks or phenotype” of my dogs other than I want them to resemble a Bulldog if that’s what you mean. As far as it taking a lot of time and dedication, I don’t see it taking anymore time than it would’ve took with the American Bulldogs. I also want to add that the Staffordshire Bull Terrier is not just a terrier like some of the other terriers, they have Bulldog in them. People always run with that last word in their name and forget about the one before. He’s from a show line of dogs that have been bred by a family that grew up on a farm. If there is any Staffordshire Bull Terrier in the United States that could be used for this type of breeding it’s from this family of dogs. I do appreciate the support over the years and I’m hoping this breeding can prove all the people that say it won’t work wrong, BUT I know there is potential for failure and I’m not guaranteeing anything to anyone. If everyone in history didn’t do what they wanted to do out of fear of failure then where would be as a society? Thanks brother 👍🏻
I think it is cool you are breeding for a dog that you want. Trying to breed your bulldogs to be like the old farm handy bulldogs is awesome. So many people are elitist on how they think dogs should be, saying you are breeding water downed bulldogs. If anything you have gotten the experience that the average Ambulldog is not what you want so you are gonna go with something that does work and has what you want. And the sbt cross venture can fail but any breeding can fail but i think it is cool you have put in the effort to come to this conclusion. Excited to see how the dogs come out down the pipe line.
One thing about those bigger operations I notice is I don’t think they have the time in modern society to give every dog what they need. I value that you use the dogs you keep no sense in locking a dog up most of the day and with a lot of the hotter dogs their just to game for family environments. Like you said and I know in rambling I need a dog that doesn’t maul my kids friends but recognizes a strange male the dog doesn’t know is a threat. Similar to chickens vs coyotes or whatever
Most Bulldog operations breed prey drive and the dog lives on a chain. The chain constantly builds frustration and builds on the prey drive so when they go use the dog to catch it does it’s job and they believe they are successful. Then they end up losing dogs left and right and chalk it up to the dog being “game”. I chalk it up to the dog being dumb and I mean no disrespect when saying that but every living being has to have some degree of self preservation. Now if the dog is working to save me or family then I have to eat crow and say that’s something I’d want the dog to do. Dogs just don’t have the capability to reason and determine a situation the way we do. From what I gather and what I’ve been told the dogs of the past could be around livestock and then also go catch when needed. The dogs I’ve owned just want to catch and kill everything they see.
@@PrideOfTheSouthlandKennels I can speak on Labs because I've had a few They will definitely protect your family. They will do whatever you train them for. Mentioned Boarder collie because of what you have on your farm and you seem to want a smaller dog than you got ?
@jimcostantino6244 - yea I get that, border collies are great herders but they don’t live with the sheep because they’ll always want to move them. I want a Bulldog, Bulldogs have a different demeanor about them than those breeds you mentioned. I have a buddy of mine that has a Lab and it went through and killed every single one of his chickens. Dogs these days in general aren’t bred for work. They’re just bred to be bred. LGD breeders nowadays are telling buyers the dogs aren’t ready to work until 2 years old. That wasn’t the case 25 years ago. My dogs aren’t too far from what I want. We’re on verge of a breakthrough so I’m hoping this cross gives me that. If not I’ll try something else.
I have been following you for a long time now and your dogs are great. Your "problem" I think is the way you want your dogs to look and how much time you want to spend creating your perfect farm dog.
You want less prey drive but outcrossing to a SBT ( even though yours is very chill from what ive seen) isnt an outcross I would do. It is still a terrier.
There are better breeds to outcross and get want you want but those look nothing like a Bulldog.
You are focussing to much on breeding the perfect farm dog but I think if you focus more on actually training your current dogs you will have much more succes in getting that allround farm dog.
The problem if you go this way its going to take a lot of time and dedication.
I appreciate the input and agree with everything you said. I had too many dogs before and couldn’t give them the one on one time they needed although I was out there for hours everyday after work with them, but there is no way most of them dogs would’ve ever been what I wanted. If there first instinct is too kill every animal they see then you can NOT back them off enough to get them to where I wanted. That was my fault though because I bought the wrong dogs. Also, I have tweaked my desire of what I want my dogs to do once I was injured. I just can’t get around like I used to so I don’t want to be catching with my dogs. I also know that this cross is potentially going in the wrong direction but I have to breed what I’ve seen works. There is another potential cross that I will consider but it’ll be down the road some time. I don’t necessarily care about the “looks or phenotype” of my dogs other than I want them to resemble a Bulldog if that’s what you mean. As far as it taking a lot of time and dedication, I don’t see it taking anymore time than it would’ve took with the American Bulldogs. I also want to add that the Staffordshire Bull Terrier is not just a terrier like some of the other terriers, they have Bulldog in them. People always run with that last word in their name and forget about the one before. He’s from a show line of dogs that have been bred by a family that grew up on a farm. If there is any Staffordshire Bull Terrier in the United States that could be used for this type of breeding it’s from this family of dogs. I do appreciate the support over the years and I’m hoping this breeding can prove all the people that say it won’t work wrong, BUT I know there is potential for failure and I’m not guaranteeing anything to anyone. If everyone in history didn’t do what they wanted to do out of fear of failure then where would be as a society? Thanks brother 👍🏻
Another good video Daniel! Lots of good points.
Thank you 🙏🏻
I think it is cool you are breeding for a dog that you want. Trying to breed your bulldogs to be like the old farm handy bulldogs is awesome. So many people are elitist on how they think dogs should be, saying you are breeding water downed bulldogs. If anything you have gotten the experience that the average Ambulldog is not what you want so you are gonna go with something that does work and has what you want. And the sbt cross venture can fail but any breeding can fail but i think it is cool you have put in the effort to come to this conclusion. Excited to see how the dogs come out down the pipe line.
Thanks brother I appreciate the kind words. It’s definitely been a journey. We’re just off to the next phase of it.
One thing about those bigger operations I notice is I don’t think they have the time in modern society to give every dog what they need. I value that you use the dogs you keep no sense in locking a dog up most of the day and with a lot of the hotter dogs their just to game for family environments. Like you said and I know in rambling I need a dog that doesn’t maul my kids friends but recognizes a strange male the dog doesn’t know is a threat. Similar to chickens vs coyotes or whatever
Most Bulldog operations breed prey drive and the dog lives on a chain. The chain constantly builds frustration and builds on the prey drive so when they go use the dog to catch it does it’s job and they believe they are successful. Then they end up losing dogs left and right and chalk it up to the dog being “game”. I chalk it up to the dog being dumb and I mean no disrespect when saying that but every living being has to have some degree of self preservation. Now if the dog is working to save me or family then I have to eat crow and say that’s something I’d want the dog to do. Dogs just don’t have the capability to reason and determine a situation the way we do. From what I gather and what I’ve been told the dogs of the past could be around livestock and then also go catch when needed. The dogs I’ve owned just want to catch and kill everything they see.
@@PrideOfTheSouthlandKennels Have also had issues with self preservation lmao like chill bro you ain’t getting a 10k acl surgery
@darrensanimalsreptilesfish30 - lol 😂 right
Family Farm you should get a Lab or a Boarder collie
@@jimcostantino6244 - so you give me a herding dog and a bird dog. That’s what I should get to protect my farm and family?
@@PrideOfTheSouthlandKennels I can speak on Labs because I've had a few They will definitely protect your family. They will do whatever you train them for. Mentioned Boarder collie because of what you have on your farm and you seem to want a smaller dog than you got ?
@jimcostantino6244 - yea I get that, border collies are great herders but they don’t live with the sheep because they’ll always want to move them. I want a Bulldog, Bulldogs have a different demeanor about them than those breeds you mentioned. I have a buddy of mine that has a Lab and it went through and killed every single one of his chickens. Dogs these days in general aren’t bred for work. They’re just bred to be bred. LGD breeders nowadays are telling buyers the dogs aren’t ready to work until 2 years old. That wasn’t the case 25 years ago. My dogs aren’t too far from what I want. We’re on verge of a breakthrough so I’m hoping this cross gives me that. If not I’ll try something else.