2017 KTM 300 XC vs 2015 300 XC Part 2 - Episode 198
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The 2017 KTM 300 XC is the most well rounded dirt bike I have ever ridden. Anyone who rides this bike comes away with a smile on their face. The 2015 300 XC was previously the bike that I thought was the best overall dirt bike in the world for the type of riding that I like to do, which is a little bit of everything. I now believe that the 2017 is better in nearly every way. It’s not worlds better, but it’s enough better that it sort of makes the 2015 feel a bit obsolete.
I’m not telling all my viewers out there do drop their older bikes and spring right away on the new model, but I am saying this is an improvement. The motor still has the low end grunt we’ve come to love. Sure, it might be a touch softer on the bottom since it’s spinning a counter balance shaft, but if anything, I think that simply makes the power more linear and easier to control. Too much is being made about the perceived problems with this motor, carb, and so on. I think it’s great. My advice is just ride it, get used to it, and love it.
The Mikuni carb is fine. The airbox is fine. The power delivery is fantastic. The AER forks are really, really good. I love them so far. You don’t need to make a bunch of mods on this thing. Get it jetted for your altitude and then just have a ball. There are always going to be guys looking for things to pick on, but IMO, KTM took something that was extremely good and they improved it in many ways.
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Picking up my 300xc tomorrow, so stoked!!!
Oh, man you are in for a treat!
+Dirt Bike Channel officially in my shop! I was going to buy the yz250x, but I decided to go with a used 300xc. Very well maintained, payed cash instead of financing.
I'm struggling with a last min decision between the 17 300xc or yz250x.Hmmm
+Genesis Sports Nutrition 300 would be my go to bike
+Genesis Sports Nutrition it would suck to buy a 250x then have Yamaha come out with a real woods weapon with e start, bigger tank etc
I think the greatest compliment you gave to the new bike, was that you didn't say much! By that I mean it seemed to just put you in the zone and you were just busy enjoying the ride. Sometimes less is more.
I totally agree.
such good videos can't state that enough
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Love theses kind off videos when I get bored on TH-cam I go here good job on this good work
Glad to help.
nice trails, love the patina on them its nice how they arent all beat up and rutted/bermed out.
Thank you.
Definitely one of your best videos! Loved it.
Both of you Keep up the Great work.
Thanks Scott.
Got to give it to KTM for relentlessly pushing forward and raising the bar. This bike seems awesome.. Beautiful riding area..
I agree.
Besides the whole dirt bike TH-cam vlogs what else do you do for work? You are very well spoken and formulate smooth sentences
I do technology sales. Thanks for the compliment.
AF canyon? I am from Utah too. Such a great place to ride. Love the vids! You got my subscription:)
Damn!That Sam guy can ride a dirtbike!!
Yeah, he's a great rider.
You have the coolest dirt bike channel
Thank you.
great video! keep up the good work!
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The fact that they switched to a 38mm carb from 36mm may be one of the reasons the bike has less snap down low
Great video - were you able to determine why the 2017 feels like it has more cockpit room?
well done Kyle, very good review especially from a 'real riding' view, the suspension being able to let you just ride & not worry or second guess what it's going to do along with the improved bounce/reaction sounds like the suspension is very good out of the box.
The engine also being smoother is a major improvement on the 300 - I've had a 2013 300XC and now have a 2014 250XC - my next bike is going to be a '17 300 :-)
Just wondered if you felt it starved at the top end as some have said ? is the airbox restricting in your opinion - does it rev out on the pipe ok ?
keep it up !
I don't think it needed any of that IMO. This sucker was running even better than the 2015 300 XC every time we rode them back to back. I think that airbox stuff is just hype IMO (I can't say about the husky's since I don't own one). And I'm testing them back to back with the older models.
The 8-9 thousand dollar question is.....would you buy this 300 XC over the YZ250X? Great videos by the way. I recognize some of the trails. Keep up the good work.
I would certainly. By the time you put a 300 kit on the 250X and hydro clutch, and desert tank, it would be more money than the KTM. That doesn't even take e start into account!
just wanna say I Love your channel!!! I too have a TH-cam channel so I know how hard it is to do these videos 👍
Thank you.
Also; That trail looks killer!
yeah, it is a fun one.
Great footage...sitting here subconsciously working the clutch, throttle and brakes as I watch. Has Sam put in his order for a 2017 300 xc yet? :-)
Not yet... he's hoping that I'll sell him one of upcoming bikes I'm going to review :)
I have both bikes and i ride about 600h in year so my experience for the mikuni its bad because it needs more gas than kehin and it works bad on the trial tracks kehin is much better, i have tried also jd jetting but nothing helps, just the kehin on the ktm. I had also an tpi ktm 2018 it’s also not better than the kehin carburetor for hard enduro and slippery terrain
Enduro Grip Bosnien - I concur, this has been my observation as well.
Ever think of going back to the W? Just got my 17 300 W and couldn't be happier with it.
No, I love the gearing on the XC better at this point. I'm going to try a Beta 300 next year which is basically a "red" XC-W from what I can tell.
The reason I went back to the W is in the last couple years we've been on extremely rocky and technical terrain and I find myself getting hung up on the linkage even with the fast way guard on it
Dirt Bike Channel Great news. I've been waiting for a good review of the 300rr racing model.
Hey do those 2 strokes have electric fans on the radiator? or would it be a good idea to install your self for a trail bike ?
I don't need one. They rarely get that hot.
thanks dirt bike channel for all that amazing stuff!! Im struggling deciding if im going yami 250x or ktm 300 xc!!! Yami here is almost 3K less! Racing harescramble mostly and wood riding! I never had any ktm, so im kinda afraid of going that way!
3K is a lot. I'd try the Yami if the deal is that good.
R&B is that KTM speak...lol another great vid! I know you buy your own bikes but have you ever considered Beta, it would be interesting to see how their 300 compares to the KTM 300.
Thanks!
love the channel
Thanks dude.
These videos are the best. by the way what do you think about the crf250r 2008 as i am thinking of getting one
it's a good bike. I've never owned one, but I have heard good things about them.
ok thanks a lot
great video once again. just wondering if you have done any mods to the air box. I drilled some holes in my 17 and cut a little off the air box cover. it really helped the low end and seems to breath a lot better. I didn't do anything major just a little bit more air flow.
I don't think it needed any of that IMO. This sucker was running even better than the 2015 300 XC every time we rode them back to back. I think that airbox stuff is just hype IMO (I can't say about the husky's since I don't own one). And I'm testing them back to back with the older models.
Hey Kyle. Another great video! Wanted to get your opinion real quick. I have been planning to go for the 17 this year. But recently a 15 300xcw 6 days came up for 1k less then a new bike. It has 80 hours but has the stillwell performance "A kit"on it. Would that suspension be worth trading everything the 17 comes with? Thank you!
I'd do the 2017 over a 2015 no matter what the suspension set up is. That 2015 should be like 2500-3000 less than the 2017. Easy choice there. I wouldn't pay a dime more for someones suspension tuning.
I don't think so. The 17's front forks are amazing.
Hey Kayl are these your bikes?
On this video, only the 2017 is my bike. The 2015 in this video is Sam's bike.
I am really into technical enduro-style single track and I am wondering if a 300 would be right for tight and technical as opposed to a 250 2-stroke or a four stoke?
There isn't a better bike for technical single track than the 300 two stroke.
Is it possible 17 felt better due to the bearings and seals being brand new? I know those items can make a huge difference.
No, that isn't it. Multiple riders wouldn't be grinning ear to ear over new bearings.
At that pace, how far ahead are you looking down the trail, too often I have a tendency to look 5 to 10 feet in front of the front wheel and become too concerned with smaller features that I shouldn't be concerned with.
I try to look 30-60 feet out when possible. Sometimes you have to "watch" an obstacle all the way in, but I try not to do that. I have a video talking about keeping your head up in my feed.
I wonder what prompted KTM to go with the Mikuni carb change? Money?....I know they thoroughly test them....maybe not?
I'm sure it had to do with money. The carb is totally fine.
Between ktm 2017 xc and yamaha 2016 yz250x. Which you prefer?
I have a video coming out on this very subject in a couple of weeks. I don't want to spoil it :)
Anticipation is killing me.Looking forward to the comparison/verdict.
There will be 3 videos in a row talking about the YZ250X and the 300 XC that are sitting in my shop.
cool trail.
I have a 2017 ktm 300 xc and 2017 husky 300tx,they are awesome I also have a 2016 ktm 300xc it is great, but not a 17!
Lucky man!
Dirtbikechannel what clutch do you like better, the brembo or magura?
I don't have an opinion on that.
I can't tell the difference.
What do you have your clickers set at? PSI in forks?
All clickers were pretty much in the middle on this first ride. 139 psi in the forks.
i was goin ask you if you have had any issues with the 17 300...still lookin lol
Not a single issue. Best bike I've ever owned.
Dose it feel lighter than the 15?
ktm should have keep the orange frame in 2017 and 2015 or 2016 graphics, 2017 seams better, 2015 looks better
I agree.
i just get back from my local KTM dealer, and sat on the 2017 300 XC, man, this bike feel light like a mountain bike under me, looks much better in real than on the pictures we can find on the net. The seat is verry firm! looks like an awesome motorcycle! Nice it came stock with this small orange hours meter, verry sleek. It is me or the KTM bikes vs Yamaha offer more room to work on it? More accessible
cadwarrior yeah, not a fan at all of the 17 graphics or plastics. 08-10 was the golden years to me though, for plastics styling. 17 xcw looks better than xc and SX though. The black helps a lot.
TheOfficialKC 2015 xc and xcw was the most beautiful graphics year to me! 2016 are nice too! But in person, the 2017 still look verry good, nice machines!
Why the '15 is better, THE ORANGE FRAME. All kidding a side i am disappointed KTM ditched the orange, it looks so much better.
I agree, the 15 has a better look to it.
I mean all you have to do is strip it down to the bare frame and get it powder coated... ( sarcasm)
Yeah, sounds super easy and cheap too.
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