The scene where The Master watches The Clangers (the children’s tv program) is iconic. It’s like when The Master watches The Tellytubbies in The Sound of Drums
Fun factoid: the hefty actor discovered on the sea fort was the original Jabba the Hutt who was CGI-ed over with the giant slug when Lucas reincorporated the deleted Han-Jabba scene for the 1997 special edition of A New Hope.
The show the Master watches was called "The Clangers", but I don't know much about it. When the John Simm Master watched "The Teletubbies" in "The Sound of Drums", it was a callback to that scene.
I like it when there's a scene with the Master watching TV, reading a book or whatever, it helps to sell the idea that he has interests beyond fighting the Doctor or trying to seize power, it rounds him out as a character a bit more.
The Clangers is one of the most joyous things ever shown on British television and holds a special place in the hearts of many 70s kids. Here's a particularly fine episode. th-cam.com/video/G512fvK9KXA/w-d-xo.html
@@ilovecatweazle When, as a kid, I discovered proper spaghetti (not the sort that comes in cans), I'd pretend it was blue string soup... albeit in a reddish-brown bolognese sauce :)
Oh, this is a classic through and through. The Clangers scene, the titular monsters, the iconic af swordfight, Malcolm Clarke's outrageous scoure, all those Navy shenanigans which Jon Pertwee, as a Navy vet (who served under James Bond creator Ian Fleming!) would've had a ball with. Season 9's best serial, imo and a contender for the best Master story.
@@jeffreygalus5417 Indeed, and went on to join Naval Intelligence training spies, which is where he worked with Ian Fleming. Pat Troughton also saw distinguished naval service in WWII, and was cited for his "outstanding courage, leadership and skill in many daring attacks on enemy shipping in hostile waters".
@@ftumschk An old friend of mine was in the navy, knew Jon, and loved to see his derring-do aboard ship in this one. Though, he hastened to add, he wasn't one of those 'reprobates' who got Jon drunk and landed him with the tattoo!
Last time we saw June Murphy (3rd Officer Blythe) she was walking into the sea off the southern English coast, as Maggie Harris in 'Fury from the Deep'. But the cast member most likely to be at home in this setting was former seaman Jon Pertwee himself. Indeed, Pertwee was still doing regular voice work on the long-running BBC Radio comedy 'The Navy Lark', which had started way back in 1959 and would actually outlast his time on Dr Who! Curiously, one of his characters was 'The Master'...
As a kid this was one of my favourite stories and loved the sword fight. After playing with my friends I pestered my Mum for food stating 'Violence always makes me hungry'....but The Doctor said it!!! (but the jovial clip behind the ear always brought me back to reality).
Music: there was a period of what was then called 'foreground music', which unlike background music was intended to cause direct emotional effects, rather like a musical 'sting' to signify the end of a scene, or a 'bdum-tish' for crude comedy. It seems to have grown out of the leitmotif, and really begun with Berg's soundtrack for the stage show 'Lulu', then in updated form even appears in the original Star Wars, the musical cues that accompany changes of scene. This later tended to become a soundtrack where sound effects and music were blended, a good example is the Tangerine Dream soundtrack for 'The Keep', where the generators used to power the lights become part of the 'soundscape'.
That puppet show the Master watches, The Clangers, has recently had a new series made, still knitted stop-motion like before. It was created by a guy called Oliver Postgate, who also made a bunch of other really charming children's shows, like Ivor the Engine and Bagpuss, his works are very well loved in the UK (and apparently by Gallifreyans too).
The Royal Navy permitted the school at HMS Excellent on Whale Island to be used for this story. Coincidence: when taking a PR photo course while a member of the RAF, we stayed at HMS Excellent, and I recognised the beach, the row of gun turrets, and some of the buildings from this story. Part of the PR course was covering the 'paying off' arrival ceremony for HMS Reclaim, which is the diving ship seen in later episodes of this story. My (and others) photos, which may still exist in Royal Navy records somewhere, captures the Reclaim streaming her paying-off pennant, passing one of the sea forts seen in this story.
I believe someone behind the scenes objected to the idea of the Sea Devils walking around naked like the Silurians were and insisted they have some sort of clothing, so the net suits were a cheap last minute addition.
It seems to be a recurring theme this Season; in the previous story, Alpha Centauri looked like a willy until the director insisted that he/she be covered up with a cape :) By the way, I think the Sea Devil "string vests" look pretty neat, so it wasn't a bad move in the end.
The guy with the Northern Irish accent on the sea fort is Declan Mulholland, his most famous role being Jabba the Hutt in the first ‘Star Wars’ film ( subsequently cut from the film and then replaced with a CGI Jabba in the 1997 special edition ).
Had this story on vhs and watchd it all the time, one of my favorite pertwee stories i owned. The sea devils are aquatic cousins of the sea devils and most fans are really wanting them to return in new who. They were mentioned in The last of the timelords, and a very short clip of a sea devil was used in the ending of The eleventh hour
Yeah the music is odd, a *bit* better than that in Doctor Who and the Silurians to me though. Pertwee was in the Navy so presumably quite enjoyed parts of this one.
I always love Malcolm Clarke's work and this one in particular. It's on the Doctor Who The Music LP, sadly too early to have his later Peter Davison serial. It just gets my Surrealist tinglies going. Couldn't imagine 'The Sea Devils' without that sound. And Roger and Jon are brilliant in this.
@@ftumschk Well, he evokes the sea - or horror of the depths - with this score. Dudley Simpson would just have sounded off. Amazing to me that viewers of an experimental series veer off experimentalism when the soundscape is involved, After all, the theme music, realized by Delia, as so much of her work, is an experimental experience in itself!
This is one of my favourite stories of Classic Who and is my 2nd favourite Pertwee story. I love the Sea Devils and I keep on hoping for them in Nu Who. BTW the sword fighting scene can be seen in the teaser trailer for the Day of the Doctor 50th special in the globe that Sarah Jane is holding, although they moved the scene to the Tardis for some reason.
This is another example as to why Jon Pertwee is my favourite Doctor he's a karate man Doctor. The sword fight between The Doctor and The Master was awesome and probaly the best moment I always love a good fight in a TV show or a movie. There is also a clip of this on TH-cam where they fight with lightsabers instead of swords. In the Tenth Doctor episode "The Sound of Drums" in Series 3 of NuWho where The Master watches "Teletubbies" mistaking the alien characters as real aliens was a callback to this in this story he's watching another kids program called "Clangers" which was also about aliens and was a popular kids program at the time. The net the Sea Devils themselves wear are their natural clothing. They are not Silurians but they are a similar species it's also a political story too a message to pollution.
Why do people say the music is odd? Apart from one or two really shrill bits - which didn't sound bad on the television or the LP - the music is spot on for the serial.
Another classic but I don’t know if I prefer this or The Silurian’s. Both excellent stories none the less. Love the scene with the clangers. Just shows that The Master is as alien as The Doctor.
I quite enjoyed this story. The sounds were quite extreme though - not advised to have it up too loud, especially if you suffer from tinnitus! Apparently the Sea Devils appearance were based on Turtles. Guess they got there before the Teenage Ninja Turtles - with nets lol! Thanks for a great reaction. See you next time!
A tale of two Malcolms. First is Malcolm 'Mac' Hulke, whose last script featured farmers trying to scrape a new life on a distant planet. Secondly there is Malcolm Clarke, whose torturing of the Radiophonic Workshop's newly purchased EMS Synthi 100 'Delaware' Modular Synthesizer (it took up a whole wall) drew heavy criticism from fans in the era before EDM was all part of our lives. Barry Letts had supported the use of electronic music in the series, but felt that a lot of what Clarke had come up with could be mistaken for sound effects. Which was kind of the point! Nevertheless, the soundtrack proved iconic enough to be featured at the 50th anniversary celebrations at the Royal Albert Hall.
Unlike Barry Letts, I loved the Sea Devils music at the time and still do. Malcolm Clarke was his usual experimental and imaginative self, and I think the sound-world he conjured up is perfect for this story. And it's not all abstract; Clarke often slips in the odd quote from classical and/or light music here and there. For example, at 2:52, there's a snippet of the well-known sentimental ballad "Hearts and Flowers", although we only get the first two notes in Jess's edit.
Ah yes, the one with the delectable 3rd Officer Jane Blythe played by June Murphy, who made quite an impression on my teenage self. (I also remember June in Fury from the Deep, but I was a bit younger then and she wasn't in uniform!) I understand the BBC were attempting to pay her residuals but were unable to trace her. I wonder if they ever found her?
They did find her, I believe, but it wasn't until many years later. She'd married an actor she'd met whilst making _Fury From The Deep,_ but hadn't informed the BBC of her new (married) surname. It was under her married name that she was eventually found, and finally got paid her repeat fees. I'm not entirely sure of the details, but the story went something like that.
The story goes the director didn’t get to see the Sea Devils until they were on location shooting the film bits - this would have been weeks before they shot the studio stuff. The director pitched a fit about refusing to have NAKED Sea Devils in a kids show so the costume people whipped up some nice net frocks for them. The music seems to be something the producer of the show at the time came to regret. Intellectually he liked the idea of the line between music and sound effects getting blurred but in practice you can’t tell if the noises are meant to be heard by the characters on screen or whether they’re just for the audience - and the high pitched squawks can be rather hard on the ears. Unfortunately the way the show was made back then meant that there would not have been time to have the music redone so they had to live with it. The handy swords came from a scripted idea that didn’t make it into the actual show. At the end of “The Daemons” the authorities had to figure out how and where to imprison the Master. A regular prison wouldn’t do, not with crowds of other villains around who the Master could suborn so they converted an old mansion into a prison. The mansion was one of many the government had acquired over the years and was to have been a school at some point in its recent past, hence the fencing gear hanging in the hall. Details like that tend to go when you have to get the running time down to 24 minutes, or whatever it was.
Doctor Who and the Silurians, The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood and now The Sea Devils. That makes three distinctly different type of Humanoid Reptiles you've seen (so far). I've always thought it would be funny if they introduced another variation that was even more turtle-like.... that....talked.... really.... really.... slowly 😄
Word of the reaction: scheming! And we even get a "shenanigans" too! I wonder if it's a coincidence that when we get a species related to the Silurians, the annoying sound effects come back. And, uh, what's with the cars that had no doors? One thing I do like about this episode; the creepy colonel gets handsy with Jo when they meet in the naval base but when he leaves, Jo refuses his handshake. There's a lot of casual sexism towards the companions in this era (lots of "Liz, do as I ask!" and pinching Jo's cheeks and stuff), so I like that Jo didn't take it that time.
The sound effects are just a coincidence - different composers, different approaches. The Silurians music was by Carey Blyton, a traditional "classical" composer, who used a mixture of orchestral instruments (which sounded OK) and genuine medieval wind instruments called crumhorns (which sounded funny). The Sea Devils score was written by Malcolm Clarke of the BBC Radiophonic Workshop, who preferred to use purely electronic/synthesized sounds.
"Violence will never get you anywhere." - The Doctor, after committing countless murders throughout his life and crushing the Master in a swordfight so expertly that he decides to eat a meal in the middle of it.
My first ever story. In later years I was confused by why I had seen this but not the rest of Season 9. Then i discovered that what i had seen was the omnibus edit screened for Christmas in 1972. 90 solid minutes of Sea Devil action at the age of 5. No wonder Doctor Who became seared into my brain. Other people seem to have mentioned any other points i might make, except to say that I insist on you doing a reaction to 'The Clangers', the programme which forces me to say that Doctor Who is the second best science fiction series of all time!
This was the second time that your average nobody sees an alien that no one has ever seen before and just happens to call them by the correct name. The last time was in the Ice Warriors.
They're not really their correct names, just nicknames that came to mind when the average nobodies described what they'd seen. "See that strange armour he's got on... proper ice warrior, isn't he?", says Walters in The Ice Warriors, and the Irishman here is in shock, and babbling hysterically: "Monster!.... A sea devil!". It just so happened that those nicknames stuck.
This was my first Delgado episode and it is an excellent one. If you haven't realised yet, this is essentially a Navy advert. And a fun one. Love the Sea Devils, they need to return in a more faithful adaptation than the Silurians. And the Sea Devil walking round the corner in episode two really freaked me out
Yes. That would be brilliant. But Classic Clangers or Nu Clangers? Here's a particularly fine classic episode. th-cam.com/video/G512fvK9KXA/w-d-xo.html
Sea Devil's and both kinds of Silurians are three different castes in a singular species. The New Who Silurians are Warrior caste, Classic Silurians are Scholar caste and Sea Devils are Oceanic Caste.
The swords? Really stretching it here, but the Royal Navy had cutlasses in ship's stores well into the 20th century, but why fencing sabres? would be in a rack outside a cell in Dover Castle, defeats me.
anyone can escape a prison, but it takes a Master to take control of a prison and turn the tables on your guards to where the wardens serve the prisoner!
I love the sword fight. This relationship was the best, enemies but with a grudging respect. What pretty much all the future writers got wrong about the Master was they made him pure evil. I wish we had more of this kind of thing between The Doctor and The Master now.
I guess I'm one of the few who really likes the Sea Devils soundtrack. Then again, I'm into experimental/electronic music in a big way, and I'm used to listening to pieces like this: th-cam.com/video/LcCs6Muljmk/w-d-xo.html
There's a piece I'm trying to track down which is used as a background to an Andre Breton poem ' Always For The First Time'. It's on TH-cam. It's driving me bananas - and, although bananas are a good source of potassium! - I'd really like to find who composed/assembled it and if I could obtain a clean copy. I'm hoping you may have some idea? The video is by 'The Poetry Society', they've responded, but have forgotten as they lost the details four years since.
@@ftumschk Ah well, thanks for having a listen. Aggravating that they didn't leave some info on the page. Would have liked to know who the artist was. Wouldn't have minded putting it into a meditative mix myself.
The Master appeared in the last classic Who episode, 'Survival' (though this was his only appearance with the seventh Doctor), so yes, he is a fixture in classic Who.
Yeah we probably should have warned ya last week about the music in this one. Probably the most annoying music in all of classic Who. But ya know, spoilers and all ;)
For me, the most annoying Classic Who music was by Keff McCulloch; but at least we've got a few Doctors to get through until he turns up, thank God! At least Malcolm Clarke put a lot of effort into his scores, even if the results were sometimes a bit "Marmite" :)
Unpopular opinion: this is my least favorite third doctor story. It's Malcolm Hulke's worst script (also his least political). It feels like it was a bunch of good moments that was trying to do to much without being tied together.
The scene where The Master watches The Clangers (the children’s tv program) is iconic. It’s like when The Master watches The Tellytubbies in The Sound of Drums
That's what it was a homage to.
Fun factoid: the hefty actor discovered on the sea fort was the original Jabba the Hutt who was CGI-ed over with the giant slug when Lucas reincorporated the deleted Han-Jabba scene for the 1997 special edition of A New Hope.
Didn't know that!
Yeah, he turns up in all sorts of things. Mouth full of marbles but he has a look, no question about it.
You man there will be Declan Mulholland. He played Till in the Androids of Tara as well ☺
The show the Master watches was called "The Clangers", but I don't know much about it. When the John Simm Master watched "The Teletubbies" in "The Sound of Drums", it was a callback to that scene.
I like it when there's a scene with the Master watching TV, reading a book or whatever, it helps to sell the idea that he has interests beyond fighting the Doctor or trying to seize power, it rounds him out as a character a bit more.
The Clangers is one of the most joyous things ever shown on British television and holds a special place in the hearts of many 70s kids. Here's a particularly fine episode.
th-cam.com/video/G512fvK9KXA/w-d-xo.html
@@donaldb1 I grew up watching them too. I was never tired of seeing The Soup Dragon.
@@ilovecatweazle When, as a kid, I discovered proper spaghetti (not the sort that comes in cans), I'd pretend it was blue string soup... albeit in a reddish-brown bolognese sauce :)
@Lauren Lewis Indeed we do :) Isn't Doctor Who wonderful?
The Sea Devils is another classic! It's a perfect semi-sequel to The Silurians and provides another excellent turn from Roger Delgado as the Master.
Oh, this is a classic through and through. The Clangers scene, the titular monsters, the iconic af swordfight, Malcolm Clarke's outrageous scoure, all those Navy shenanigans which Jon Pertwee, as a Navy vet (who served under James Bond creator Ian Fleming!) would've had a ball with. Season 9's best serial, imo and a contender for the best Master story.
He was almost assigned to the HMS HOOD before its sinking at battle of Denmark Strait against the BISMARCK
@@jeffreygalus5417 Indeed, and went on to join Naval Intelligence training spies, which is where he worked with Ian Fleming. Pat Troughton also saw distinguished naval service in WWII, and was cited for his "outstanding courage, leadership and skill in many daring attacks on enemy shipping in hostile waters".
@@ftumschk An old friend of mine was in the navy, knew Jon, and loved to see his derring-do aboard ship in this one. Though, he hastened to add, he wasn't one of those 'reprobates' who got Jon drunk and landed him with the tattoo!
@@jeffreygalus5417 I heard he HAD been serving on the Hood, and was reassigned shortly before that voyage.
My dad was stationed at the navy base this was filmed out!
Did he see any Sea Devil's?😃
The Doctor vs. Master sword duel is one of my favorite moments in Dr. Who history!!! Very swashbuckler-y and charming, like an Errol Flynn film!
Funny you mentioned Errol Flynn, Twelve mentioned he got his sword skills from many, including Flynn!
Another classic from the Third doctor era, I really like this story, only watched it myself the other day. Love the music so 70's.
Last time we saw June Murphy (3rd Officer Blythe) she was walking into the sea off the southern English coast, as Maggie Harris in 'Fury from the Deep'. But the cast member most likely to be at home in this setting was former seaman Jon Pertwee himself. Indeed, Pertwee was still doing regular voice work on the long-running BBC Radio comedy 'The Navy Lark', which had started way back in 1959 and would actually outlast his time on Dr Who! Curiously, one of his characters was 'The Master'...
Jon, being ex-navy, had a whale of a time on this one and it shows. It's his favourite story along with The Daemons
The incidental music to this story is amazing
As a kid this was one of my favourite stories and loved the sword fight. After playing with my friends I pestered my Mum for food stating 'Violence always makes me hungry'....but The Doctor said it!!! (but the jovial clip behind the ear always brought me back to reality).
The extras in the fighting scenes are real naval personnel
Music: there was a period of what was then called 'foreground music', which unlike background music was intended to cause direct emotional effects, rather like a musical 'sting' to signify the end of a scene, or a 'bdum-tish' for crude comedy.
It seems to have grown out of the leitmotif, and really begun with Berg's soundtrack for the stage show 'Lulu', then in updated form even appears in the original Star Wars, the musical cues that accompany changes of scene.
This later tended to become a soundtrack where sound effects and music were blended, a good example is the Tangerine Dream soundtrack for 'The Keep', where the generators used to power the lights become part of the 'soundscape'.
these scenes were filmed in Portsmouth and on the Isle of Wight which aren't far from where I live now
At least some were shot on Whale Island, the location of HMS Excellent, the RN's school of gunnery and signals? as was.
The DJ that you heard on the radio is played by the director of this story,Michael Briant!
That puppet show the Master watches, The Clangers, has recently had a new series made, still knitted stop-motion like before. It was created by a guy called Oliver Postgate, who also made a bunch of other really charming children's shows, like Ivor the Engine and Bagpuss, his works are very well loved in the UK (and apparently by Gallifreyans too).
The Royal Navy permitted the school at HMS Excellent on Whale Island to be used for this story.
Coincidence: when taking a PR photo course while a member of the RAF, we stayed at HMS Excellent, and I recognised the beach, the row of gun turrets, and some of the buildings from this story.
Part of the PR course was covering the 'paying off' arrival ceremony for HMS Reclaim, which is the diving ship seen in later episodes of this story.
My (and others) photos, which may still exist in Royal Navy records somewhere, captures the Reclaim streaming her paying-off pennant, passing one of the sea forts seen in this story.
I remember seeing this on bbc1 in 1972...awesome and I adore it all these years later.
One of my favourite Dr who stories. Went past the forts on the Solent a few weeks ago. It reminded me of this story.
The guy on the fort who dosent get killed played jaba the hut when he was originally a person and not a big monster
I believe someone behind the scenes objected to the idea of the Sea Devils walking around naked like the Silurians were and insisted they have some sort of clothing, so the net suits were a cheap last minute addition.
It seems to be a recurring theme this Season; in the previous story, Alpha Centauri looked like a willy until the director insisted that he/she be covered up with a cape :) By the way, I think the Sea Devil "string vests" look pretty neat, so it wasn't a bad move in the end.
The guy with the Northern Irish accent on the sea fort is Declan Mulholland, his most famous role being Jabba the Hutt in the first ‘Star Wars’ film ( subsequently cut from the film and then replaced with a CGI Jabba in the 1997 special edition ).
Indeed, and we'll see Declan again in the Tom Baker era.
I have so been waiting for this, my favourite Pertwee story by far!
Had this story on vhs and watchd it all the time, one of my favorite pertwee stories i owned. The sea devils are aquatic cousins of the sea devils and most fans are really wanting them to return in new who. They were mentioned in The last of the timelords, and a very short clip of a sea devil was used in the ending of The eleventh hour
This was & is one of my favourite 3rd Dr. stories, I`m glad you are enjoying it so far.
Yeah the music is odd, a *bit* better than that in Doctor Who and the Silurians to me though.
Pertwee was in the Navy so presumably quite enjoyed parts of this one.
I always love Malcolm Clarke's work and this one in particular. It's on the Doctor Who The Music LP, sadly too early to have his later Peter Davison serial. It just gets my Surrealist tinglies going. Couldn't imagine 'The Sea Devils' without that sound. And Roger and Jon are brilliant in this.
I'm a big fan of experimental electronic music, so I love Malcolm Clarke's score, too. I guess we're in a minority :)
@@ftumschk Well, he evokes the sea - or horror of the depths - with this score. Dudley Simpson would just have sounded off. Amazing to me that viewers of an experimental series veer off experimentalism when the soundscape is involved, After all, the theme music, realized by Delia, as so much of her work, is an experimental experience in itself!
11:32 - Why were those fencing swords there
It’s what the British do on their tea breaks
Episodes where Three gets to do action-y stuff? I'm in. Jon Pertwee must have *loved* filming this episode.
This is one of my favourite stories of Classic Who and is my 2nd favourite Pertwee story. I love the Sea Devils and I keep on hoping for them in Nu Who. BTW the sword fighting scene can be seen in the teaser trailer for the Day of the Doctor 50th special in the globe that Sarah Jane is holding, although they moved the scene to the Tardis for some reason.
Hooray! at last a Clangers reaction.oh wait...,oh it's just Dr Who!
This is another example as to why Jon Pertwee is my favourite Doctor he's a karate man Doctor. The sword fight between The Doctor and The Master was awesome and probaly the best moment I always love a good fight in a TV show or a movie. There is also a clip of this on TH-cam where they fight with lightsabers instead of swords. In the Tenth Doctor episode "The Sound of Drums" in Series 3 of NuWho where The Master watches "Teletubbies" mistaking the alien characters as real aliens was a callback to this in this story he's watching another kids program called "Clangers" which was also about aliens and was a popular kids program at the time. The net the Sea Devils themselves wear are their natural clothing. They are not Silurians but they are a similar species it's also a political story too a message to pollution.
Why do people say the music is odd? Apart from one or two really shrill bits - which didn't sound bad on the television or the LP - the music is spot on for the serial.
The Crimea, Doctor? LOL. Great story and a great reaction
"Does it really matter"?...😆
Another classic but I don’t know if I prefer this or The Silurian’s. Both excellent stories none the less. Love the scene with the clangers. Just shows that The Master is as alien as The Doctor.
I quite enjoyed this story. The sounds were quite extreme though - not advised to have it up too loud, especially if you suffer from tinnitus! Apparently the Sea Devils appearance were based on Turtles. Guess they got there before the Teenage Ninja Turtles - with nets lol! Thanks for a great reaction. See you next time!
A tale of two Malcolms. First is Malcolm 'Mac' Hulke, whose last script featured farmers trying to scrape a new life on a distant planet. Secondly there is Malcolm Clarke, whose torturing of the Radiophonic Workshop's newly purchased EMS Synthi 100 'Delaware' Modular Synthesizer (it took up a whole wall) drew heavy criticism from fans in the era before EDM was all part of our lives. Barry Letts had supported the use of electronic music in the series, but felt that a lot of what Clarke had come up with could be mistaken for sound effects. Which was kind of the point! Nevertheless, the soundtrack proved iconic enough to be featured at the 50th anniversary celebrations at the Royal Albert Hall.
Unlike Barry Letts, I loved the Sea Devils music at the time and still do. Malcolm Clarke was his usual experimental and imaginative self, and I think the sound-world he conjured up is perfect for this story. And it's not all abstract; Clarke often slips in the odd quote from classical and/or light music here and there. For example, at 2:52, there's a snippet of the well-known sentimental ballad "Hearts and Flowers", although we only get the first two notes in Jess's edit.
This was filmed in my home town
Ah yes, the one with the delectable 3rd Officer Jane Blythe played by June Murphy, who made quite an impression on my teenage self. (I also remember June in Fury from the Deep, but I was a bit younger then and she wasn't in uniform!) I understand the BBC were attempting to pay her residuals but were unable to trace her. I wonder if they ever found her?
They did find her, I believe, but it wasn't until many years later. She'd married an actor she'd met whilst making _Fury From The Deep,_ but hadn't informed the BBC of her new (married) surname. It was under her married name that she was eventually found, and finally got paid her repeat fees.
I'm not entirely sure of the details, but the story went something like that.
The doctor and the Master sword Fighting.....Soooo Sherlock and Moriarty!
The story goes the director didn’t get to see the Sea Devils until they were on location shooting the film bits - this would have been weeks before they shot the studio stuff. The director pitched a fit about refusing to have NAKED Sea Devils in a kids show so the costume people whipped up some nice net frocks for them.
The music seems to be something the producer of the show at the time came to regret. Intellectually he liked the idea of the line between music and sound effects getting blurred but in practice you can’t tell if the noises are meant to be heard by the characters on screen or whether they’re just for the audience - and the high pitched squawks can be rather hard on the ears. Unfortunately the way the show was made back then meant that there would not have been time to have the music redone so they had to live with it.
The handy swords came from a scripted idea that didn’t make it into the actual show. At the end of “The Daemons” the authorities had to figure out how and where to imprison the Master. A regular prison wouldn’t do, not with crowds of other villains around who the Master could suborn so they converted an old mansion into a prison. The mansion was one of many the government had acquired over the years and was to have been a school at some point in its recent past, hence the fencing gear hanging in the hall. Details like that tend to go when you have to get the running time down to 24 minutes, or whatever it was.
They went "overboard" with the synth sounds. Yes indeed!
The Master's outfit is hardly inconspicuous. Naval Captain.
Doctor Who and the Silurians, The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood and now The Sea Devils. That makes three distinctly different type of Humanoid Reptiles you've seen (so far). I've always thought it would be funny if they introduced another variation that was even more turtle-like.... that....talked.... really.... really.... slowly 😄
The Sea Devils are said to be cousins of the Silurians.
Clangers incoming. Lol
This was my very first Dr Who story when I was 10. Jon Pertwee will always be my doctor.
“ why Doctor miss Grant what a very pleasant surprise “
“ bless my soul “
Word of the reaction: scheming! And we even get a "shenanigans" too!
I wonder if it's a coincidence that when we get a species related to the Silurians, the annoying sound effects come back. And, uh, what's with the cars that had no doors? One thing I do like about this episode; the creepy colonel gets handsy with Jo when they meet in the naval base but when he leaves, Jo refuses his handshake. There's a lot of casual sexism towards the companions in this era (lots of "Liz, do as I ask!" and pinching Jo's cheeks and stuff), so I like that Jo didn't take it that time.
The sound effects are just a coincidence - different composers, different approaches. The Silurians music was by Carey Blyton, a traditional "classical" composer, who used a mixture of orchestral instruments (which sounded OK) and genuine medieval wind instruments called crumhorns (which sounded funny). The Sea Devils score was written by Malcolm Clarke of the BBC Radiophonic Workshop, who preferred to use purely electronic/synthesized sounds.
The car with no doors is a camera car; used in chases, fast tracking shots, etc.
"Violence will never get you anywhere." - The Doctor, after committing countless murders throughout his life and crushing the Master in a swordfight so expertly that he decides to eat a meal in the middle of it.
I live at one of those locations. 😊
My first ever story. In later years I was confused by why I had seen this but not the rest of Season 9. Then i discovered that what i had seen was the omnibus edit screened for Christmas in 1972. 90 solid minutes of Sea Devil action at the age of 5. No wonder Doctor Who became seared into my brain. Other people seem to have mentioned any other points i might make, except to say that I insist on you doing a reaction to 'The Clangers', the programme which forces me to say that Doctor Who is the second best science fiction series of all time!
That’s a Superbad theme from The Sea Devils. I’d like to think they made that music. 😎
In my personal opinion, the best serial of the classic series next to Genesis and Three Doctors.
the whole Master in prison and the Doctor visiting him reminds me of X-Men: X2 when Professor Xavier visits Magneto in that no-metals prison...
This was the second time that your average nobody sees an alien that no one has ever seen before and just happens to call them by the correct name. The last time was in the Ice Warriors.
They're not really their correct names, just nicknames that came to mind when the average nobodies described what they'd seen. "See that strange armour he's got on... proper ice warrior, isn't he?", says Walters in The Ice Warriors, and the Irishman here is in shock, and babbling hysterically: "Monster!.... A sea devil!". It just so happened that those nicknames stuck.
@@ftumschk I'd really like to get into this with you, but if I do, there are way too many spoilers in my reply lol
@@easty74 No worries! Thanks for the response :)
This was my first Delgado episode and it is an excellent one. If you haven't realised yet, this is essentially a Navy advert. And a fun one. Love the Sea Devils, they need to return in a more faithful adaptation than the Silurians.
And the Sea Devil walking round the corner in episode two really freaked me out
Correct, but you meant that it's a _Navy_ advert, I think :)
@@ftumschk DAMN AUTOCORRECT!!!!
@@cameronmonaghan6883 I think the "Nazy" advert was The Daleks ;)
4:34 my thoughts exactly...jesus
Love this story!!! Cept for the sound .it's way to freaked up....
He’s a doer, he’s a dreamer!
He’s absolutely Schemer!
"Genius time! Genius time!"
You should react to The Clangers. For Christmas.
Yes. That would be brilliant. But Classic Clangers or Nu Clangers? Here's a particularly fine classic episode.
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@@donaldb1 it has to be classic.
If I were Jo.... But you're not - you're Amy!
Is this the first Sesskaya where the cliffhanger is downed?
One of my favourite stories in this season and apologies for being Later
Sea Devil's and both kinds of Silurians are three different castes in a singular species. The New Who Silurians are Warrior caste, Classic Silurians are Scholar caste and Sea Devils are Oceanic Caste.
Love this story
The swords? Really stretching it here, but the Royal Navy had cutlasses in ship's stores well into the 20th century, but why fencing sabres? would be in a rack outside a cell in Dover Castle, defeats me.
Been eixted for this reaction
anyone can escape a prison, but it takes a Master to take control of a prison and turn the tables on your guards to where the wardens serve the prisoner!
"No other Classic Who serial has such annoying sound effects as The Web Planet and The Silurians"
The Sea Devils: Hold my beer!
I love the sword fight. This relationship was the best, enemies but with a grudging respect. What pretty much all the future writers got wrong about the Master was they made him pure evil. I wish we had more of this kind of thing between The Doctor and The Master now.
scheming? yeah, it's The Master's second nature! Like breathing is to us humans!
This is the one that perfried me
I guess I'm one of the few who really likes the Sea Devils soundtrack. Then again, I'm into experimental/electronic music in a big way, and I'm used to listening to pieces like this: th-cam.com/video/LcCs6Muljmk/w-d-xo.html
There's a piece I'm trying to track down which is used as a background to an Andre Breton poem ' Always For The First Time'. It's on TH-cam. It's driving me bananas - and, although bananas are a good source of potassium! - I'd really like to find who composed/assembled it and if I could obtain a clean copy. I'm hoping you may have some idea? The video is by 'The Poetry Society', they've responded, but have forgotten as they lost the details four years since.
@@josefschiltz2192 I just listened to it, and I can't place it I'm afraid. It's very "ambient" and atmospheric, though :)
@@ftumschk Ah well, thanks for having a listen. Aggravating that they didn't leave some info on the page. Would have liked to know who the artist was. Wouldn't have minded putting it into a meditative mix myself.
Now you finally figured out what the reference was in the trailer of "The Day of the Doctor": th-cam.com/video/7hRy2N2CMhQ/w-d-xo.html
Wait til u see warriors of the deep (fifth doctor story) of where the silurians and sea devils team up.
now take a quick look at your honey's "walkthrough" in the 11th hour...
The Master appeared in the last classic Who episode, 'Survival' (though this was his only appearance with the seventh Doctor), so yes, he is a fixture in classic Who.
The Master does reappear past the third doctor era but he is more common in the third and fifth era's
Spoilers.
wow everyone sounds so posh.... no one sounds like this in uk no more..
Yeah, this is an awesome story, but the score is a blend of radio static and cabbage farts, sadly. Again though, awesome story.
Yeah we probably should have warned ya last week about the music in this one. Probably the most annoying music in all of classic Who. But ya know, spoilers and all ;)
For me, the most annoying Classic Who music was by Keff McCulloch; but at least we've got a few Doctors to get through until he turns up, thank God! At least Malcolm Clarke put a lot of effort into his scores, even if the results were sometimes a bit "Marmite" :)
Unpopular opinion: this is my least favorite third doctor story. It's Malcolm Hulke's worst script (also his least political). It feels like it was a bunch of good moments that was trying to do to much without being tied together.
Love this story