Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes - Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2024
- The apes are back in the fourth film of the rebooted franchise - but do they return together strong or diminish the Caesar trilogy?
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This entire thing happened just because James Franco wanted his dad to remember stuff!
And a little bit because Koba caused a gas leak for not staying still during a test.
Also because that one idiot scientist didn’t get himself checked after being exposed to an experimental virus
Yup, James Franco caused all of this. He's the real villian!
He should’ve done research with the project that only made sharks super-smart 😉
@@Crazy-DescriptionHe's an Abuser and villain real life too
It's so rare that a franchise these days have more than 2 directors (in this case, Rupert Wyatt, Matt Reeves, and now Wes Ball) involved with different visions but still remain consistently good from start to finish
It really is! the planet of the apes franchises is one of the only franchises i know that is consistently good throughout movies
They all did a great job and we are happy they all got to see a satisfying conclusion
That's a testament to the franchise at large. The old movies are surprisingly consistent movie to movie
Glares at Star Wars
Loved the previous ones but absolutely hated this one! I thought it was terrible with more plot holes than I could count.
We really need to stop calling what these actors do in films like this 'motion capture' and start calling it for what it really is, 'performance capture'.
Everyone in Hollywood already calls it performance capture and if you're going to TH-cam comments just to tell people what to do you probably need to do something better with your time
@@neutraltoxic not at all what I was intending. More of an observation than anything ...
"if you're going to TH-cam comments just to tell people what to do you probably need to do something better with your time"
... Uhm, right back at ya, I guess 😂
People telling other people what to do.... again. 🙄
@@Sudsyw0lfright?! Are these people OK?! You didn't sound rude to me so I don't get the response.
@@greggibson33 That’s what you took from the comment?
Alright, move along now.
I hate how criminally underrated the Planet Of The Apes reboot trilogy was. Despite massive acclaim from critics and audiences, it's kinda sad how the trilogy doesn't really popped up to anyone's mind whenever they talk about movie trilogies
I could see it being brought up in a conversation and the other guy does "Oh yeah" response
I feel the same way about maze runner trilogy. I'm watching Kingdom because I love maze runner trilogy, I don't like animal suffering so I had been avoiding the Cesar trilogy, I watched and loved the first film, but the MR directed films were more action than emotion in my opinion.I still prefer Maze runner
It always does for me. Apart from LOTR it is the finest modern movie trilogy. Three high quality films telling a compelling character (Caesar) driven story with a definitive beginning, middle and end.
It's one of my all time favorites. Andy Serkis absolutely nailed the emotional core of Caesar and those movies are incredible.
I will try again. I really enjoyed the first one. But the next two were pretty Meh to me. Although the 2nd one is growing on me after rewatching recently. Woody Harrelson is great.
I think the biggest draw back for me was Ceaser dying. It makes the Trilogy kind of a waste of time imho.
I think the title of the sequel will be "Reign of the Planet of the Apes", and the one after that "Fall of the Planet of the Apes".
I’m thinking it’ll be called Empire of the Planet of the Apes
I agree. I've always said that 'fall of the planet of the apes' will be the end to this series!!
@@AngelMartinez-rx8ytI was thinking 'Empire' too... I had the thought, what if Proximus was one of Rocca's disciples and thats how he knew about Ceasar?
What if he had 3 'brothers' who decided to usurp control of the myth from Rocca, kill him and his order and use what they learned to set themselves up as the three Ceasars of the Empire of the Planet of the Apes?
And Proximus needed the vault to give him an edge against his brothers in the obvious conflict youbget when you try to make people who seek power share it
So cool to meet you last night after the screening Dan! I was so surprised when I got up and saw you behind us! Thanks for taking the time to talk and take a pic. A great movie made even better!
Always had the feeling Dan was the most chill person from the original screenjunkies cast and I've been a fan since
Nice to meet you too, thanks for saying hi!
People want a movie where the apes are the exclusive focus. Problem is Planet of the Apes was never really about just the apes. It was always about humans reacting to, shocked by, struggling against, etc. the apes.
I donr understand what Dan wants? The struggle for power and the fallout of imbalance for control between humans and apes is what makes this franchise intriguing.
I agree that human conflict is necessary for an Apes story to work, but the way this movie handled it was still a poor choice. They could've presented an interesting dilemma where the apes are simultaneously indebted to humanity while also treating them as animals. Or speculate on if apes are doomed to repeat the path of the human race. Or ask whether Ceaser would've prioritized helping humans even if they lacked intelligence. But they didn't do anything like that. Instead of finding some new, unexplored twist on this conflict, they seem perfectly content to restart the exact story we just finished
can't wait for the third film in this new trilogy, Resolution to the Aftermath of the Battle for the Conquest of the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Man. What a relief. The reboots were one of my favorite trilogies of all time.
Andy Serkis also deserves credit on the reboot trilogy for being a 2nd. unit director due to his extensive experience with motion capture. Looking forward to seeing it on Sunday.
I really liked the movie. It makes sense that the human part isn’t yet over and they’ll make a final stab at regaining control before the apes truly take over. I also really liked how you could see the first steps towards the ape’s later social structure: the chimps getting interested in science, the orangutan's wisdom and them eventually becoming the cultural leaders and finally the gorillas as the military. They aren’t there yet, but the early signs are there and I can’t wait to see how that will evolve in what we see in the original planet of the apes.
Planet of the Apes ranking when?
I can't wait for the sequel to be titled "Planet Of The Planet Of The Apes" 😂😂
It sounds like the protagonist will be a geologist.😀
Haha honestly. What is this naming convention
"World of the Planet of the Apes"
Apes of the Planet of the Planet of the Apes
"Universe of the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes"
Did you like how the Apes don’t even know what Zebras are? horses with stripes?
Well..They can't as they don't know africa anymore
Like Caesar wasn't born in africa and his mother didn't have time learn him africa so it not that bad that the apes after don't know about zebras
Chronicles of the Banana Republic: A Topsy-Turvy Odyssey on the Extraterrestrial Jungle Gyms of Simian Sovereignty, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Chimpocalypse on the Planet of the Apes
😅😅😅
I mean, they have ruled for 300 years. I'd just take that as a win
But I wanted to see a movie about that reign that have very little human presence. Could we have see a movie where Proximus is a little ape and we watch his rise to power. So the movie fully focuses on an ape story with little human screen time.
@@kelechi321 that would be kind of a repeat of the previous trilogy though
@@kelechi321 I think these films will always have a human presence no matter what because it brings the budget down and I know a big chunk of the audience will not go see these movies if it was 100% CGI apes.
@@kelechi321 In every planet of the apes, there was always human characters even in the 1970's.
@@kelechi321we just got a trilogy of mainly apes
Great review, as always Dan. Your critiques always come from the heart and thus with total honesty and balance, thank you.
Nice to see Kevin Durrand getting a second movie appearance this year (albeit that this one is a performance capture!), he's talented and I wish we saw him more.
Seeing the film today with my Dad. He's been excited to see this. However, I wasn't until I heard your review. Thank you Dan!
I was a bit let down by the movie, but for the opposite reason Dan has - I wanted more human elements. That's the most interesting part of the setting to me.
If they didn't want to show that, at least show a more interesting ape society than a small tribe in the jungle.
Agreed. This was droning and boring. The whole time I was thinking why do I care about these apes?
Maybe if they followed the development of Proximus and his rise to power and then having Kingdom be the followup to that. They could've shown the legacy of Caesar's story and the corruption of his teachings to set up Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
I think future installments will provide more human elements.
Sounds like a decent follow up to the new trilogy. The movie however has a lot to live up to, especially to the second film of the trilogy "Dawn of The Planet of the Apes", which i considered to be not only the best Planet of the Apes movie ever made but one of the best sequels ever made perioud. Alnost on the same level as The Dark Knight and Empire Strikes Back.
The best planet movie is the 68 original and by a long mile
@@manyamaggot In your opinion
@@manyamaggot You're entitled to your opinion
DAN! How did you know? I literally just got home after seeing it at the cinema 😊 you genius!
Fall Guy kicked off the summer movie season for me, but KotPotA is one I’m still looking forward to seeing. The reboot series is some of the best Sci-fi of the last decade
You can barely tell this franchise has had three different directors. Thats how good it is at staying committed to the vision. Really enjoyed this one, probably as much as any of the other entries. Felt a lot like the first movie.
The ending with Proximus was fantastic.
You kind if nailed my issue with the movie. Everything about the apes I loved. I thought May would be similar to Noa from War and it shocked the hell out of me. I've been cheerin for apes for three movies and Noa's character just made me do it harder. I di wish they had focused more on the apes. I do get her motives (trying to help humanity), but as you said, humanity's time is done. it isn't that I hated seeing humans on screen. I just didn't like the ones I saw and they made me dislike humans as a whole more.
I really liked the fall guy, and I saw it with a packed crowd, sucks it didn't make more money
Glad you had a good movie going experience! All movies are better in a packed theater. That is the way they are meant to be viewed.
I also watched The Fall Guy in a packed theater where the whole theater was laughing at multiple moments. It enhanced the experience and I could just tell everyone was having a good time.
Sad that it underperformed
No, the sequel will be called '2 Apes, 2 Furious'.
Yeah really good point about the third act, would have been a nice twist to have the same ending but have the third act driven more by Noa’s story.
What was interesting was how jarring the continued presence of sentient humans on the planet was though, and the almost disgust at Mae’s opportunism compared to Noa’s innocence and altruism. Noa is the hero here, and to convince an audience to cheer for the apes with a new hero (not Caesar) is an impressive feat!
Excited to see it on Tuesday morning! I just finished my rewatch of the Andy Serkis trilogy and forgot how good they were after not seeing them for years.
During the 300 year time - jump, did The Simian Flu virus died out right into the events of "Kingdom"? i really don't know how long viruses last.
I was very worried with some of the trailers, even some of the later trailers, so it's good to hear that the final work at least matches the previous trilogy
the twist at the end was that it's all a Fallout game and Mae is a Vault Dweller LOL
My local smoke shop is called Planet of the Vapes.
Just wanted to share that
Great review Dan, I completely agree. I thought everything with the Apes was really compelling but the big reveals about the human story felt like it took us back to where we were in the previous two films.
Personally i thought bringing human back was clever. Was the best oart for me
I have a feeling that this trilogy is either about a peace treaty between both apes and humans, or human uniting and have a battle for dominance between apes and humans. Which makes sense, because the virus had held back humans from taking it's rightful place, you'd see that in the War of the Planet of the Apes.
Spot on comment. I totally agree
I don't go to see a planet of the apes movie to see humans....I want a planet of the apes movie without humans in it at all. The humans are always the worse part.
I was planning on doing a rewatch before the new one hit theaters. Oh well
As a new 2nd Sequel, it should call ‘The Human Strikes Back 😂
I'm still looking forward to Dan's Godzilla-style ranking of Apes movies
Andy Serkis should've received, if not get nominated, an Oscar for his groundbreaking work with the first three films.
CGI is only as good as the person doing the performance. It's arguably no different than getting makeup or wearing a body suit for a role.
I personally think that the complex relationships between humanity and apes and the struggles of them constantly failing to live in harmony is one of the highlights of these stories.
Well put. Getting quite excited with reviews and word of mouth. Trailers were already quite intriguing and thrilling.
The third act definitely soured the film for me. And the final moments cutting between the humans and apes.
I like the movie but feel like there were a lot of missed opportunities. Especially with the advancement of the apes.
And it would have been cool to see a Koba clan.
I can't help but to think Disney forced their ideas into this film... Great story potential lost for me.
Great review as always!
Just saw and loved it!!! Noah is such a deep and compassionate soul. Can't wait for the next films. CGI so good and I saw actors on TV and they nailed the actions of real simians. The ending reminded me of THE WALKING DEAD UNIVERSE so there are many ways this can go. Solid Grade A from me.
I feel like this movie franchise might eventually fully become a long prequel to the 60’s and 70’s movies.
Not possible
I thought they were going that way because of the observatory @JJ-52
@sosukekurosaki9861 The timelines don't match. Ceaser is 2 completely different characters, too.
Dan. On a separate note. Civil War has completely fallen off the charts. Nothing on "The Numbers" since Sunday. Do you have any insight on that?
I totally hear what you’re saying about the idea of them bringing the humans back into this franchise however, I think that it will benefit it only because of the fact that I honestly don’t know what else they could do with only focusing on apes for two more movies of a trilogy. Given that there are humans that are still alive (and I will say nothing more more of that to not spoil) I wonder if this trilogy could end in a way where maybe it is better for the apes but we just don’t see it yet.
As it is a DisneyCorp film, we can expect a tie-in with an astronaut arriving from the Marvel Cinematic Multiverse.
@@pattheplanter that will not happen
To me it makes sense that the humans would retaliate at some point. There has to be a conflict and the most likely outcome is that they will eventually be crushed by the apes. They’re already planting seeds for the ape’s future social structures; the chimps as scientists, the orangutans as the cultural leaders and the gorillas as the military. It’s not quite there yet but they are working towards it.
I'm guessing the end of the entire franchise (of this reboot) will be humans and apes living peacefully together.
@@alexp601 Or the apes raising a tasteful monument to the extinct humans.
Yes, but isn’t it also very unrealistic to expect Man to just go away quietly that would never happen
Well said, Dan, I agree with pretty much everything you brought up. I also hoped it was more emotional, the same way the Caesar trilogy was for me. But still, solid movie and I’m interested to see where they take the franchise.
Damn, I was hoping for a film that was high praise worthy! I'm in the same boat as you, having had my expectations blown away by the most recent trilogy. That said, still sounds interesting! I'll check it out (:
Thanks for the review!
"... made all the worse by doing everything he's doing in Ceasar's name."
Absolutely no real world analogies i could make here.
Nope.
None at all.
I think this is what I wanted the star wars sequels to do but didn't, move away from the skywalkers. Its good they moved away from caesar as they did hear.
Personally I’m very curious to know what happened to Cornelius & Nova
My wife is interested in this movie. Thats all i need to go see it. Im hyped.
My mom wanted to try the 4DX cinema and I was trying to find an interesting movie that could perfectly be our first 4DX experience, I think Kingdom Of The Planet Of The Apes could be a good choice
I think it's a huge misstep that they are trying to bring humans back into the picture. I think it would've been more interesting if the apes were farther along the civilization process. I think early farming villages over hunter gatherer would've been interesting. And more politics than just brute action.
Hope to see it this weekend
I really didn’t like the ending. I don’t want more humans.
I kinda want the films to get into the weirder scfi elements of the older films. The Forbidden Zone, Mutants, and maybe introduce Dr. Hasling and perhaps the astronauts!!!!
I do think we’ll get the astronauts mentioned in Rise back again somehow and while it won’t necessarily be a remake of the first movie I do wonder if it might end in such a way that you could hypothetically then go and watch the original PotA movie.
We need a film about the Mutants, one for the Lawgiver, castes and classes in ape society. At least those 3 before we can have POTA and the astronauts returning. They have a 1500 year window still I think.
@@BegsYourPardon I feel like Caesar has kinda been canonized as the law giver.
I didn't realize how long the title was til I had to type it out in discord after watching last night. I really enjoyed it. I do wish they didn't jump straight into Rise of the Planet of the Humans. I'd like to see an even more advanced Ape civilization but I'm still looking forward to what comes next.
In my personal opinion POA has been the marker for where VFX is at the moment sense the latest series -- more than Avatar for sure
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People love these movies because of how good the motion capture is. Imagine if other franchises were able to get this good of motion capture
If the reboots segue into the storyline of the original franchise then this is perfect. In the original movies of the 60’s and 70’s the apes are ruling thousands of years into the future. They will show humans efforts to retake earth and how it all plays out.
Thanks for the video Dan!
Can’t wait for this
It’s kinda dumb to think that humans would just forget about their collective history and devolve , forgetting how to communicate, organizing etc.
That is unless the writers too the William Golding view of humanity
In the last movie, the point was that the virus mutated to the point that people who survived the pandemic, started losing their ability to speak. There is the whole sequence of the antagonist of War of the Planet of The Apes, who explains what the mutated virus did to infected people, they turned into animals without sapience in their eyes. He also lost his ability to speak because he got infected by a doll that the infected young girl left in the camp.
How could humanity preserve the knowledge if new generations cannot learn how to speak or write? So with each generation, humans degraded to the level of prehistoric humans and very few remained with sane and capable minds as we see in this movie. Perhaps, those very few humans turned out to be resistant to the mutated virus? Who knows. The human society collapsed fully.
They didn’t forget how to communicate, the virus took away their ability to speak and diminished their intelligence, with only a few exceptions
My wife has seen every one of the new planet of the apes movies and she couldn't even remember what the last one was about, leading to low interest in this one.
Agreed that I’m not too interested in a man vs ape tug of war of power for another trilogy but in reverse.
I was on the fence about this movie existing just like you and I am glad it looks like a good one! Definitely going to check it out. Thanks for helping me pick, I cannot watch everything atm so you are my go-to for help in decision making!
Man Dan is psychic with me lool everything he is saying is what I was thinking about watching this
It seems like it took 4 films of the new franchise to finally "remake" the first movie of the original franchise.
Thanks for the review! Subscribed
Agree that the human storyline undermined the third act. Honestly, this movie didn’t need the humans to be cool.
Every other pota movie disagrees with you. The humans were always at the center of the conflict
We, as a species, are notorious for not being able to ascertain a metaphorical message. So, no matter what, a human element needs to be present if it wants to stay within the franchise. Keeping humans in the movie dumbstruck down the message so that everyone will understand it. I, like you, think an all ape movie could be fascinating.
We are of mixed minds with this as one of us really enjoyed it while the other really didnt. But we both agree that this franchise needs to stop and that this story did not need to be told.
Seeing it Saturday and I can’t wait!
I enjoyed it. Kept thinking of how awesome the mocap was on Noah and Roka. I don’t want to see more humans but I am interested in knowing more.
I just saw the movie, and it was ok/good ... but that's it. It kinda works as a standalone movie with a minimal Caesar reference. The "human" with the Lara Croft butt-tight-jeans and tank top was like ... really? They did stick to a story and CGI wasn't gratuitously thrown in in lieu of the story. The ending was lame. I watched the originals at the drive-in as a kid and everyone since. I'm going to have to give it a 3/5 stars, good watch but no where near the impact of the trilogy (which was outstanding).
New movies need to be about Apes enter in contact with a man that comes from the past and start a revolucion for peace between man and ape.
Makind went Feral: Wearing Jeans 👖 & Tank Tops & make up
🤣I think they didn’t think it through
Well yes but actually no
You know her character was not feral right??!
@@toby_ri2669 on Trailers they show setup: apparently Man has devolved to the degree that they are mostly incapable of complex thought or Speech/ & yet all humans are running around with Clothes from the Mall/ I haven’t seen the film & won’t to be honest seems like a waste of time & money : correct me if I’m wrong? Are the humans pretending to be Feral or something? & secretly they can all talk & think ?
@@toby_ri2669 are they pretending to not be able to think & talk? Is she the Special one that can while everyone else can’t? Haven’t seen anything but trailers/ what’s the deal then?
To me the point of the series is we are living in the Planet of the Apes now. Human and primates are part of the same family tree. We just like to view ourselves as beyond nature
Dan’s review sounded like a It’s Fine kind of movie, but somehow it went with Its good. I will stay with your ‘Nothing here outweighs what’s done in the previous trilogy’ comment, save my money and wait for Furiosa. Thanks Dan!
Watching this review after I saw the movie last night because I've become extremely sensitive to spoilers over the years 😂 I'm glad I had no idea Mae was smart or William H Macy was in this or what Raka's deal was. Going in blind was awesome and I loved the film. I agree though I'm kinda down on the sequel setup with the human story going forward but it could be good I guess we'll see, they already managed to surprise me with this one.
The first trilogy of Planet of the Apes was fantastic. I look forward to seeing this one.
Dan's opinion seems right down the middle compared to others ; Jeremy Jahns, John Campea and Stuckmann.
My crew is very curious on this film now!
Good review. Still looking for a reviewer that talked about misinterpreted philosophy and dogma - which drives the underlying conflict of the entire film
Why is CGI getting worse? At no point did i think that is actually an ape. Caesar at least seemed real at times and that was ten years ago.
I strongly disagree
@@alexp601nobody cares
@@jasonadersonwedion9874 that isn’t true
Hollywood just can’t seem to stop beating a dead horse
I haven’t seen it yet but that does confirm my fear that the series will begin to focus on humans as the driving protagonists. Of the previous trilogy, I think Rise is generally regarded as the weakest because it gave so much screen time to the humans
I pretty much agree with your take. Think the watching the new ape world with the different clans etc and their own internal conflict was way better than the human storyline. That did not resonate with me at all. I think you are right that it should be about the apes.
Saw this last night and loved it! 😀👍👍
Will we find out that noa/ Caesar are distant related in future sequels because he lookalike Caesar and does noa have Caesar birthmark?
no motion capture should have its own category. It is not the same eventhough they both are "acting"
"Freya Allan doesn't give my favorite performance in the movie..." Dan is always so nice. I've seen 3 seasons of The Witcher, & Freya Allan doesn't give my favorite performance in the series, either. Tho, TBF, many of the performances in The Witcher are not my favorite...
This movie had a great premise and idea and there was just no substance here. Everyone in my theatre just kept going to the bathroom cause it was so boring
I really don't understand why all of these youtubers are constantly making the joke that the next movie's title is going to be insanely long, when every film in this new franchise has been consistently the same. In fact, they've been exactly the same length, with only a single word in the title being changed each time: _Rise, Dawn, War,_ and now _Kingdom._
They’re dumb
Because it's fun.
Not to mention the originals that followed the same title structure.
Kingdom does have an extra syllable
I don’t want a trilogy about humans rising up. Give me more apes!
The real question is, does an ape ever have an eagle perched on its arm, like it shows on that poster? If so, that should be an automatic See It Now!.
Yes
@@DanMurrellMovies Didn't expect an actual reply. Thanks for the confirmation! 😀