Colinsworth couldn't stop yapping about a missed DPI on the Hail Mary play for a good 10 minutes after the game ended. So much for hiding bias on primetime.
Thank god the chiefs are no longer on sunday night for the rest of the season, because if they were, I would genuinely not watch. Collinsworth is a joke.
Chiefs fan here, I died laughing when I read a comment about the missed PI call on the 8yrd line. "There's no PI as the pass was deemed uncatchable for being thrown to MVS."
Yall were given 2 bs calls before that. Not to mention a no 10 sec run off that should have happened. Was it a bad call sure....but....let's not act like the cheifs weren't handed calls 2 or 3 prior to that. Which marched them down the field to begin with. Packers won. Cheifs fans are just salty. They are just as bad as jets and lions fans . They all ran there mouths all off season and become these insane babies the moment they get beat. Just happend to the jets early on in the season 😂
@packers12to80 not sure where all this animosity is coming from, but I think you're directing it at the wrong person. You must be one of those people who see someone not wearing your team's jersey and just start cussing and throwing stuff at them even if that person is a kid.
@@tigcarn Thanks for keeping a level head!!! As an eagles fan my entire feed has been the creator going "Good job 49ers, Eagles played bad and we need to get better. We could blame these things but we need to focus on Dallas next week." Then every 3rd comment in it was "WOW, EAGLES SHIT!!! YOU ARE DUMB!!!! 49ERS BEST TEAM EVER!!!!". I'm sitting there like y'all ain't wrong but say that shit to the toxic people not the people giving you guys credit. smh
It's the same Chiefs fans that appear everywhere to remind Lions fans that they beat the Chiefs without Travis Kelce, that the Broncos beat Patrick Mahomes with the flu, and that they won the game against the Eagles that actually mattered. I have nothing against the Chiefs and the majority of their fans, but the excuses and attempts at coping all year for every loss from that certain portion have truly been a sight to behold lol
As a packers fan if the only one they were saying was the they beat the eagles in the Super Bowl is fair, because cool eagles won but the chiefs won the more important match besides that I think they need to chill out
The issue is social media, perna got it 100%. I've been a chiefs fan my whole life, grew up in KC. Once we started winning and people started really disliking us, I was originally fine with being the villians(and i mostly am still) its just the social media side of things, it gets so damn toxic. You get annoying loud chiefs fans who are just the loudest ones in the room that make everyone else look bad, and then you get loud annoying members of other fanbases yelling back at them, it just sucks. Fact is, we've won 2 super bowls, we're 8-4. Are we playing probably our worst season with mahomes so far? Sure, theres a lot wrong with the team. But at the end of the day we lost due to our team being just flat out worse on sunday, officiating sucks all around and i think most reasonable chiefs fans know that. I think most NFL fans know, that there are usually bad calls or bad no calls for both teams when the officiating is bad. The NFL needs to improve its officiating all around. GG to the packers though, they earned the win. Hopefully my team will pull it together and play a full game at peak performance that isn't against the bears.
yeah, i lived in Pats country as a Chiefs fan during the whole Brady era and it was rough. But now I see what our fans are doing since 2018 and its really just the same stuff.
Full blown Chiefs fan for 40+ years. I remember when the team was Garbage in the 80s, late 2000s and before Big Red came to KC. I appreciate this time but I know the ride doesn't last forever. Bad calls last night for sure but Packers were the better team last night.
100% all this. Too many fans think we are going to be unstoppable every year. Of course having fans of every other team think the refs help us when they really don’t is also annoying.
This has been my life as a Boston sports fan. Small groups of assholes causing problems and now any fan of any of their teams are labelled racists. Like no, i disagree with those assholes, but they are the ones every other fanbase points to.
Absolutely this. Have a lot of Chiefs fans that either came on during the good times or apparently forgot the bad years. They should be forced to watch (or rewatch) the 2007 - 2012 seasons with their eyes taped open. Remember what the Midwest is supposed to be about. Be thankful and proud, but be gracious. Officiating was ass, but goddam did Love throw some beautiful passes that resulted in equally spectacular catches. All I could do was shake my head and say "Damnit. That was fucking pretty."
The Packers never lost the lead. They scored in back to back drives in the first quarter. The defense held the Chiefs to field goals. The interception by Nixon shut down a late game Chiefs drive. To say the game was firmly decided by the refs is proof that you didn't watch the game. The refs have been terrible ALL season. That itself needs to be improved. Also, you NEVER take personal attacks on people like Johnny Barks when he posts a verifiable clip of Mahomes' press conference. That is not helping any argument you are trying to make. That's horrible.
@@curiousKuro16 "You" is referring to the Chiefs fans who started attacking Johnny Barks after he posted a video of Mahomes' press conference. Grossi isn't attacking anyone.
Look what the haters did to Aaron Rodgers after being the best Quarterback ever, he himself made the statement about cancel culture, it's socially acceptable to be jerks now because they can't be punished!
To anyone in Chiefs Kingdom that was going after Johnny Barks personally after last night's game, Stop. Just stop, we can be upset about the loss but personal attacks are not okay.
For real. I'm starting to feel bad this season more than anything. Feels like there's been a lot of blame game and no "good game" with fans this year. I genuinely don't know what was more gross to me. The anti-Eagles hate speech yesterday, or the *real* extra Kansas City fans last night.
@@catalyst1641 Oh it was just a joke. If you tuned into any game via livestream you'd see people cheering on the 49ers, not to win, but to take Hurts or Swift outta the game. Then comment sections on videos involved with it saw a ton of Eagles fans who said it was well played met with crap loads of insults saying person in specific was trash talking and deserved worse. What made it worse was it was the 49ers trash talking all week long, so it just turned into a lot of projecting on that fanbase. I've got a father who's an Eagles fan, but frankly I don't care for the NFC at all. But this last week made me dislike the San Fran fanbase (online that is). I just don't get how you can cheer suplexing and fighting or going for injuries cause of a bad fan.
I've been a Chief's fan since before they built Arrowhead. They shared a crappy municipal stadium with the Royals. They've had good years and really, really bad ones. But they never had success or failure because of the refs. There are teams like the Saints, Bills, Dolphins and Jets to name a few that saw their whole season end on one bad call. Quit your crying, Chief's Kingdom.
someone called me one of those "new bandwagon chiefs fans" because i said Nagy might be the problem. Also called me a Broncos fan and salty Eagles fan.... i laughed while staring at my Steve Bono jersey... the very first Chiefs jersey available for me to buy in eastern PA
@@deemity7557 So that one call cost Chiefs everything? If that's how you think, then I guess the PI on JuJu in the Super Bowl is the only reason we beat Philly? That's how losers think. Bad calls are part of the game.
@@OldNavy-z9h I think after the playoffs last year it's hard to argue they haven't had success because of the refs. They got some absurd calls against the Bengals to get to the superbowl, and then again in the superbowl to win it.
Sounds like a case of partisan blinders. Chiefs fans can claim some absurd calls that went against them as well as no-calls in the same games. If you are talking about late hit out of bounds and PI call in the Super Bowl, those were both legit calls. @@Michael-yb7jh
Here's the worst part. The whining is not only coming from Chiefs fans, it's coming from the Swifties and they are more insufferable than any fanbase in the league. As a Ravens fan, we have players on our squad who are friends with top celebrities, and their fanbases have never whined about REFBALL even though we've been in some of the worst officiated games of the year.
As a chiefs fan i can say that we are not great this year, but also, that last drive of the Packers/Chiefs game had some of the worst officiating ive seen for both sides
Yeah it's true, I don't care if the advantage is given to us or not, no calls that obvious should be called like that. It was a good game though Green Bay, wish you the best of luck this year!
packers had 1 missed DPI call while the Chiefs got a free roughing call, a free timeout with the penalty that should've taken 10 seconds off AND started the clock on the whistle, forward progress that should've kept the clock going but guess we're giving them another free timeout so how is that for both sides when yall got 2 extra timeouts and 15 yards for hitting Kermit in bounds? refs tried as hard as they could to give them a chance
@@jeremy0828that 1 missed call had a larger yardage impact that all the rest of those calls. Also are we just gonna forget the 4th and 2 conversion where literally every replay couldn't NOT show the facemask penalty on the guy pressuring Love. Edit: I'm not saying Chiefs lost cos of the refs, I'm just sick of hearing people say shit like "it offsets" or "makeup call" when 50 - 15 ≠ 0
@@jeremy0828oh shut up. You’re going to just forget that the first two drives refs threw bs flags that forced the Chiefs into field goal situations? Refs were bad for both teams. Quit acting high and mighty.
As an Eagles fan, I'm sad about the loss and there were DEFINITELY some blown calls by the refs but overall I would say the 49ers just played better than us and specifically our defense let us down for sure. All I'll say is that they beat us bad this time but we'll likely see em again in the playoffs for round 2.
The Refs have been horrible all season for every game. Seems like they are biased at times or call phantom calls or miss actual calls. Chiefs are not a complete football team this year. And too often right now is a reaction league. Where a lot of players were allowed time to be good. Today they get 1-4 games. Which sucks. Peyton wouldn't have been allowed in the NFL today after his first season. That is how bad the culture is about giving players time to learn and grow.
As a Packer fan, I have the utmost respect for Patrick Mahomes. His press conference comments after the game were impressive. The same goes for Dan Campbell of the Lions. They recognized GB's effort & acknowledged that they needed to do better. Bad calls were made both ways. There's no denying that. Chief fans are top notch. Long time Packer fans feel some loyalty to Andy Reid, except when they play GB. Following the likes of Favre & Rodgers is no easy task. I admire Love's patience, hard work, and the way he handles himself on & off the field. We have been blessed at the QB position for a long time,, & we should remain thankful!
As a diehard Chiefs fan, these Chiefs fan blaming the refs are not Chiefs fans they are just bandwagons. True chiefs fans know we got outplayed sucks that we are represented by the sour few who whine about the refs
I’m a chiefs fan from KC, and I just don’t get where this complaining is coming from. Is it fun to shout out your TV about the reffing for like 15 minutes after the loss? Of course. It’s cathartic. But to then go out in public and sell it like we objectively got screwed over? Mahomes/Grossi said it perfectly, we weren’t leading for a second of that game. Packers had us the whole way through. Setting that aside, who even cares? I guess it has 1st seed implications, but the Chiefs are almost certainly making it to the playoffs. What really matters at this point is cleaning up the sloppy mistakes, getting the receivers up to snuff, and avoiding injuries.
There’s just a lot of crappy fans from every team voicing their opinions because it is the internet. It’s not fans debating and having fun anymore, just attacking. But then again that’s what they’re doing on ESPN and NFL Network. As well as in stadiums across the country. It’s a bad look.
I have been a Chiefs fan since the Lenny Dawson era. To my fellow fans and members of the Chiefs Kingdom, grow up! Show the class that we should be showing. I don't like the fact we lost, but the Chiefs beat themselves. Yes there was some bad calls and key injuries, but they should of have not been in the position they were in. Hard pill to swallow but we lost due to inconsistent play.
If there are any long time Chiefs fans being toxic, it's because of the constant shit we've had to put up with since the Chiefs had the temerity to actually be good. Im not blaming the refs but Im hearing a lot of of what I heard last night because. We've put up with Denver through Elway, Manning and now it looks like Russell. We're plenty empathetic, even to Broncos & Raiders fans. The worst ones are definitely the newbies. Chiefs fans have traditionally been one of the most hospitable fan bases i the NFL. To say the Chiefs haven't been humbled or have been ptoo good for too long is complete bullshit. I could say the same thing for the period the Broncos were so successful. The Chiefs had 40 years between Superbowl appearances. While we were good after Schottenheimer got here, he never won a playoff game. We've had some of the best players and teams in league at times but furthest players like Derrick Thomas ever got was numerous Pro Bowls. One of the best tight ends to ever play the game, Tony Gonzalez, broke down and cried when he finally made the second round of the playoffs and that only happened because he went to the Falcons. Neil Smith finally got a ring by going to the Broncos of all places. He's still loved in KC, which just points more to the current crop of toxic fans are since Reid and Mahomes got here. And they'll be gone as soon there's another hot team and QB to follow. And anyone who pulled that shit on Johnny Barks isn't an actual Chiefs fan. They're just toxic shit stirrers.
@@wc1994 You're right. Misskey. It's what happens when I don't proofread. OMG - I just re-read the post and as a professional writer, it's embarrassing how much I didn't catch when I wrote it. I edit text message! Yeesh. Last time I use speech to text......
Chargers fan here :( the chiefs fans being salty have NO reason to act that way after the years they've had since Mahomet got there. I've also seen journalists get über protective and were questioning the win bc the "godteam" didn't get the calls it needed to win. At the same time, I used to be a bears fan and know a ton of packers fans from back home. I'm not asking Tom to look inward, bc he isn't a part of that sect of the fan base, but green bay aren't exactly the pinnacle of humble when they win. I knew when this game was played that the next day was going to be awful in terms of fan reaction no matter which direction it went, and I wasn't disappointed
i mean, I as a Chiefs fan, was being attacked by fellow Chiefs fans for even suggesting Nagy might be the problem and they needed EB more than we thought. Its just "fans", they are toxic. Lol i laughed because by the same chiefs "fan" i was accused of being a short term fan, a Broncos fan, and a salty Eagles fan. My Steve Bono jersey is older than you!
Chiefs fan here. The officiating was bad, but that isn't why the Chiefs lost. The Chiefs lost because they got outplayed from the beginning of the game to the end of the game. The Chiefs looked lackadaisical, and it was apparent that they overlooked the Packers. If you play down to your opponent in the NFL, you will get beat. The injuries had impacts if only temporarily, but that contributed to the Packers jumping to a lead. In the Mahomes era, the expectations are high and therefore the let downs are greater when they don't perform to the level of expectations.
@@wc1994 Maybe Swift, but the Commericials were done in the offseason, the main problem right now is the WR Coach with no WR experience and it shows with the WR regression and/or lack of progression outside of Rashee Rice.
3 sacks in the red zone, 2 turnovers, red zone penalties. The chiefs didn’t come to play and thought they would just work over the packers. They got outplayed. Plain and simple.
Chiefs fan here, I’m pretty young for a Chiefs fan (22), and I remember growing up asking my dad “will the Chiefs ever be good?” Our franchise shifted when we got Andy Reid and Alex Smith in 2013 and started the season 10-0, but it was still a battle to win a playoff game. Mahomes came and got us over the hump. I can promise you 90% of those rude fans are bandwagoners with no empathy. Extreme credit to your Packers for winning, bad calls happen every game and it’s the team’s job to not leave it in the hands of the refs. Even so, the refs were bad for both sides. Packers straight up won, and I’m honestly glad to see it. To see the Packers in a new era with a new QB people were giving up on too quick (part of the problem Tom Brady probably sees in the NFL) finally succeeding is an amazing thing, and I’m happy for y’all. Chiefs are gonna be fine too, real Chiefs fans shouldn’t be freaking out because our problem can be pretty much attributed to bad/underdeveloped receivers. The Chiefs are gonna win the west and have a playoff ticket, which is all that matters, not regular season wins. Both these teams can do some damage in the playoffs if they get hot at the right time, especially the Chiefs, so is it really that hard for Chiefs fans to be happy for the Packers, or at least respect them? I should think not. Thats how you find the fake bandwagoners
I do not like toxicity, I'm just a chiefs fan here to enjoy watching football as a bonding experience with friends, yes I'm heart broken but that's just how the game is.
As a chiefs fan I'm so sorry. I can assure you 99% of chiefs fans are NOT like this. Its unfortunately the silent minority. Packers didn't win because of refs. Chiefs made mistakes and Packers capitalized on it and played better. The refs all around were awful but this loss is on us.
As a Chiefs fan (and a Football fan) Love look great. Those two throws (Love) did in the crowd after 4 and short and then into the end zone were amazing. It was a good a game. Yes, I would love to see the Chiefs win, but they didn't play well last night and did not win the game. Honestly, I wasn't sure which Chief offense was going to show up last night. The one that won against the Raiders the previous week or the ones that have been losing the games prior to their bye week.
This is what happens when a bunch of bandwagon fans jump on, paints all the others in a bad light. As a Chiefs fan it annoys the hell out of me. But on that same note, a lot of nfl fans are insufferable.
That no-call on the MVS pass... Not all contact is the same. And the Ref was right there and had a clear view... Valentine had his head turned arround and was playing the ball,which is a critical factor in call/no call... was there contact? Yes... did it effect the result of the play? Hard to say MVS was almost as much as a defender as Valentine was. As for the Kelci in the endazone? Based on the trajectory he had no chance, and almost everyone agrees that Refs don't flag PI in hail mary's unless excessively aggregious.
Grossi: us Commanders fans are the same when it comes to our players. Howell is both the league MVP and our latest biggest draft bust, depending on who you ask. *shrug* Fans, man...
As a bears fan depending qho you ask we stick with fields or go for caleb 😂 and its like if we go for caleb NOTHING changes and honestly i think justin has embraced the bears
NFL officials are bad. Adopt CFL reviews. It's way better and much more fair because the right calls are eventually made most of the time. I prefer a fair game where the team that plays better wins.
Sure the refs suck. You know why the Chiefs lost last night? The CB that intercepted the Mahomes talked about it after the game. He read play the and ball. A CB for the Packers is better at grabbing balls than almost all of the WR's of the Chiefs. That is why they lost.
A Chiefs fan did a huge post on how much fun they had at Lambeau, and how great the fans were. It's also tradition that you offer a brat and a beer to an opposing fan when tailgating.
Lifetime Chiefs fan here. Sorry some idiots were giving people a hard time. Just like fans of any team it's hard when you lose a game and there are obvious non-calls. The refs were just bad for both sides though. Refs are an easy thing to blame but the difference in the game was the first 2 drives for each team when the Chiefs kicked field goals while the packers got touchdowns. Add those 8 points back in and the chiefs just would have needed a field goal to win. You can't leave it up to the refs. The packers played a great game though. Congrats.
I think we need to retire the whole "lost because of the refs" narrative because it's becoming an excuse every week, but the no call pi on MVS and the bad "late hit" on Mahomes being called, the refs were bad all around and need to be taken a look, but it shouldn't be the reason Packers won and Chiefs lost
I agree. As an Eagles fan who has seen fans from other teams cry about how the refs are on our side all year long, it's annoying. But the game is the game. We win when we play well (or clutch), and we lose when we don't. Eagles lost last night not due to the refs but just by being overpowered by a similarly dominant team in the 49ers. That said, the officiating is horrific this year, and it feels like it's getting worse as the years go by. However, it's a team sport after all. The sooner toxic fans stop blaming ref ball and just admit their team needs to make adjustments, the less toxic the fan bases would be. Can't expect perfection from the league every week. It's delusional.
@@Tinystrom There are a lot of people that look at number instead of timing. They act like it's all about the first half, look at a couple no-calls or bad calls in it. When in reality, the only half that matters is the second one. Can't win the game in the first after all (unless you are REALLY dominant).
@@Tinystrom I read a few comments about it, and some of our more hardcore fans are blaming the refs, feeding into the delusion that our team is without flaw. Most of the fans, however, agree with my analysis. We were outplayed last night, and that's all there is to it.
I think the real issue is that these people don’t really care about football. They just like attacking others. If they’re not attacking other teams they’re attacking their own team. These are the people who thought professional wrestling was real and rooted for the bad guys. Now they moved on to other areas like real sports, politics, and popular entertainment.
no for real the chiefs are considered the default to win by their fans and the media. if they lose to the eagles, suddenly the eagles are just lucky MVS dropped a ball when the Chiefs have been having WR problems all year. for ANY other team that's considered having a problem at WR, for the chiefs that's a lucky asterisk win. the chiefs can't ever just be a flawed team like the rest of the NFL (as they have shown to be NUMEROUS times this season and not just when they've lost). and like yeah, social media propells the worst parts of every fanbase and it's definitely not all chiefs fans. but goddamn.
The chiefs benefited 3 times on that drive. The Mahomes hit but also the tackle on mvs should have been ruled in bounds so clock would have been running and on the reviewed fumble play chiefs had a penalty called and no timeouts remaining so should have been a 10 second run off and clock starting on the whistle. Refs were terrible on both sides.
Chiefs went 50 years between Superbowls, I'm 52. Chiefs hadn't won a playoff game since Joe Montana was qb until Andy Reid's second year as Coach and we didn't win another playoff game until Mahomes 2nd year. So I lived damn near 50 years with 2 playoff wins... Chiefs were always 1 and done in the playoffs before Mahomes!!!
If there's one thing I've noticed across multiple sports, politics, and even in entertainment over the last decade or so - people have been getting REALLY into conspiracy shit. Everything has to have an agenda or some sinister underpinning.
Are people really surprised that Chiefs Kingdom acts like this? (Tom and Brandon are being very generous by describing it as a minority, we all know it's not.) They've been like this since the moment Mahomes slipped on that first championship ring. Entitled, boo-hooing, poor sportsmanship, gloating, excuse-making, etc. The list goes on forever. Sore winning is something I simply cannot abide, and it's been front and center since Day 1. I relish the coming mediocrity, it's a long overdue comeuppance.
Ah. So you’re not adding to the toxicity by just generalizing every Chiefs fan? I swear y’all salivate at the thought of the Chiefs losing. It’s pretty pathetic.
It's pretty funny how the entire AFC west is living vicariously through the Packers right now, LoL. P.S. i see the Broncos finally got a Qb that doesn't look like a horse! Ha
Honestly Tom and Perna are both right about the Chiefs in terms of whether they were trash or serviceable. In the 70s and 80s they were pretty bad, then they were good in the 90s, trash again in the 2000s for the most part, and then after Andy Reid took over as HC in 2013, they have been consistently good or great after one awful Romeo Crennel complete season.
We as cheeseheads have plenty of memories of good ol MVS. Dude could've been wide open on that nonPI call, he's still dropping it. Chiefs fans tears are best served warm in December.
KC fan here. So many fans all over are complaining legitimately about the officiating. Lots of bad calls during the game. Bottom line for me is that KC didn't play well enough to win. Bad calls, but the right team won this game.
Tom, I agree Pack outplayed Chiefs. But the drive where you say the Chiefs benefited, the yardage doesn’t equate to the 40+ yard PI that was not called on MVS. Would have put them at the 9. They don’t equal each other.
The sad thing is is that all the Internet cares about are those least few calls. What about those 2 phantom calls while Chiefs were in the Red zone at the beginning? And if they were true then why aren't we being that technical all throughout the game/league? Not enough people talk about all the horrible calls throughout a game, and thats why we're going to keep having horrible officiating
Sounds about right for KC fans. I spent my college years in Springfield, MO around a bunch of insufferable Chiefs fans during the Aughts and that was more than enough to make me delight in their losing forever.
I'm a Chief's fan. Broncos v Texans also faced bad refs. Packer's flat outplayed the Chiefs. Mr. Love looked great! well aside from one or two plays - but on ALL the others, he looked great!
Yeah, look, I'm not going to pretend that Chiefs don't have a lot of asshole bandwagoners but I think it's excessive the scapegoating done on this show about Chiefs fans when the show keeps specifically calling them out to antagonise them. Green Bay fans have had their bandwagoners be sorry in the past too, and lord knows the shit we put up with from Broncos fans when they were good. It's a larger nature of shitty fair-weather fans that extends beyond one team, beyond the NFL entirely.
@@DNeonLamp Have you tuned into a Grossi stream before? Not a GPS, a Grossi specific stream when he watches Kansas City. His chat is almost always filled to the brim with "cmon refs, ofc you'd screw over KC." This is genuine experience, Tom is an interactive streamer.
@@LilyMaeBlossom I'm certain you have no confirmation bias in whether you assign this as a character trait of KC fans versus literally every fan base ever asking for penalties. You can literally hear crowds on broadcast do this in every game but I'm sure there's a very logical reason you'll give me for Chefs fans being the only ones who also do it online.
imagine being a chiefs fan talking about a blown call, ha mahomes sets up his late hits out of bounds (i peeped bro he slows down til he about to get hit) ya'll have rings shh...
Mahomes and Kelce and Reed are used to getting those calls to help them late in a game now that it's on the other foot their true colors come out. This bs happens in everygame that has to be script. Some games are not scripted but the NFL uses officials to rig games just get use to it cause sometimes it's for your team and sometimes it's not.
Hey Kansas City Chiefs fans maybe if you ask why the receivers can't catch a ball at all plus going after Johnny Barks like you really are that low to do that grow up stop being babies the refs was bad was bad but sure blame others for your loss the team has ISSUES ALOT OF THEM!
I am not sure why some of my fellow Chiefs Fans are so toxic. We do lose games not because of bad officiating, we lose games because our WRs are not stepping up. I am not sure if we can fix this problem this season. Last year we could compensate the lost of Hill, this year I don't know.
as a chiefs fan, I ain't claiming any of these folks. Also I'm from KC and have a been a fan my whole life, but I don't think it's a coincidence how many "fans" came out of the woodworks once we got Mahomes. At some point the fairweather fans will jump on some other team, while I'll still be rooting for my Chiefs. Sorry people have been so rude online.
Chiefs fans are not crying about just the PI on MVS. They are pointing to horrible officiating on how Chiefs are also the victims of that. Yet every Chiefs hater said "Chiefs get favorable calls by Refs". What a f***** BS. Atleast be consistent with your takes and not overreact when your team loses/wins.
When a team rises to the top this happens, it doesn’t matter which team it is. Everyone says Green Bay fans are spoiled or New England and now it’s KC. When you’re on top you get all the prime time, everyone is watching those games. There’s bad officiating in every other game too but you just don’t see it.
Every fan whines and moans when their team loses do to questionable officiating and conveniently forgets every win they have from questionable officiating. Just shut up and accept it lol
Also Chiefs fans: shut up You’ve had how many calls go your way during last year’s playoffs?? Ridiculous You guys whining after getting the result you don’t want…it’s not like there was a BS call on the Packers as well…
Here's the issue: Brady and Manning broke fan's expectations moving forward in this league. If a QB doesn't look like the next best thing ever, he's a bust. If they do look great, they immediately get compared to Brady, and that's entirely unfair, even for Mahomes still. As stated in this video, everyone over reacts each week to what we see. They don't allow for the natural ups and downs that are inevitable, because we saw Brady, and to a lesser degree Manning, stay at basically peak performance for so long. So with that being said, the vocal online KC fan base is rabid about proving Mahomes is better than Brady, so they can't allow a loss to occur without trying to justify it. I think many (the people who act out in the way discussed in this clip) are suffering from an inferiority complex, which is crazy unfortunate to spend Mahomes's career worrying about that rather than just enjoying it.
They missed several calls. Both ways. The missed call at the end robbed the Packers of the exclamation mark win and strengthens the belief the NFL is not a fair league. The Chiefs lost the game. We were out played. The missed call suck-but we also kinda sucked at playing football.
I’ll completely admit I’m one of those that thought/thinks love is not good. But winning is all that matters so I’ll take a mediocre QB that wins and brings home the Lombardi then an amazing QB that can’t get it done. Not attacking Rodgers or Farve there, I will always love them for the joy they brought me.
That depends on what jordan will do this off season.. Cuz ig you barely miss the playoffs you'll be where you were last year... And depending how love approaches it he might pull a kyler or daniel jones.amd demand his money this season cuz let's face it. You've got no one to replace love and you can't draft anyone so it might become a "shoot yourself in the foor situation"
Lol lets not even talk about Pacheco who swung at and punched a Packer player and it was a Total No call which should of been 15 yard and a player ejection! That alone should of sealed the deal.
The hail marry couldn't have happened without them stopping the clock when forward progress stopped in bounds. If the clock kept going they wouldn't have had the chance
How could the refs lose them the game if they couldn’t have even mathematically won on the last drive. The best they could do was tie and still needed a 2 point conversion to even do it.
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Colinsworth couldn't stop yapping about a missed DPI on the Hail Mary play for a good 10 minutes after the game ended. So much for hiding bias on primetime.
The hail mary one was particularly ridiculous. That looked like a standard hail mary. Hes been in the NFL for how long now?? Like come on!
I usually like him but that became too much, I've never seen them call DPI on a Hail Mary.
Collinsworth is a clown. That one wasn't DPI any way you cut it
Hmm, I remember a missed OPI on a Hail Mary play in Seattle. PI is never called on a Hail Mary and shouldn't be.
Thank god the chiefs are no longer on sunday night for the rest of the season, because if they were, I would genuinely not watch. Collinsworth is a joke.
Chiefs fan here, I died laughing when I read a comment about the missed PI call on the 8yrd line. "There's no PI as the pass was deemed uncatchable for being thrown to MVS."
Yall were given 2 bs calls before that. Not to mention a no 10 sec run off that should have happened. Was it a bad call sure....but....let's not act like the cheifs weren't handed calls 2 or 3 prior to that. Which marched them down the field to begin with. Packers won. Cheifs fans are just salty. They are just as bad as jets and lions fans . They all ran there mouths all off season and become these insane babies the moment they get beat. Just happend to the jets early on in the season 😂
Take the L loser. Lol
@packers12to80 not sure where all this animosity is coming from, but I think you're directing it at the wrong person. You must be one of those people who see someone not wearing your team's jersey and just start cussing and throwing stuff at them even if that person is a kid.
Lmao MVS strikes again
@@tigcarn Thanks for keeping a level head!!! As an eagles fan my entire feed has been the creator going "Good job 49ers, Eagles played bad and we need to get better. We could blame these things but we need to focus on Dallas next week." Then every 3rd comment in it was "WOW, EAGLES SHIT!!! YOU ARE DUMB!!!! 49ERS BEST TEAM EVER!!!!". I'm sitting there like y'all ain't wrong but say that shit to the toxic people not the people giving you guys credit. smh
It's the same Chiefs fans that appear everywhere to remind Lions fans that they beat the Chiefs without Travis Kelce, that the Broncos beat Patrick Mahomes with the flu, and that they won the game against the Eagles that actually mattered. I have nothing against the Chiefs and the majority of their fans, but the excuses and attempts at coping all year for every loss from that certain portion have truly been a sight to behold lol
I mean us cowboys fans are annoying, but this is somehow worse.
As a packers fan if the only one they were saying was the they beat the eagles in the Super Bowl is fair, because cool eagles won but the chiefs won the more important match besides that I think they need to chill out
@@staypuft24 right totally agree. When it compounds with all the others it's like damn, give it a rest 🙃 lol
When a group is used to having their way 24/7, equality feels like oppression to them.
Every Fanbase in the NFL has a diversity of fans. Every. Single. Team. No one is exempt or perfect in their fandom.
The toxic "fans" aren't the real Chief's fans. It's the bandwagon fans who are being assholes.
That's true
The issue is social media, perna got it 100%. I've been a chiefs fan my whole life, grew up in KC. Once we started winning and people started really disliking us, I was originally fine with being the villians(and i mostly am still) its just the social media side of things, it gets so damn toxic. You get annoying loud chiefs fans who are just the loudest ones in the room that make everyone else look bad, and then you get loud annoying members of other fanbases yelling back at them, it just sucks. Fact is, we've won 2 super bowls, we're 8-4. Are we playing probably our worst season with mahomes so far? Sure, theres a lot wrong with the team. But at the end of the day we lost due to our team being just flat out worse on sunday, officiating sucks all around and i think most reasonable chiefs fans know that. I think most NFL fans know, that there are usually bad calls or bad no calls for both teams when the officiating is bad. The NFL needs to improve its officiating all around.
GG to the packers though, they earned the win. Hopefully my team will pull it together and play a full game at peak performance that isn't against the bears.
yeah, i lived in Pats country as a Chiefs fan during the whole Brady era and it was rough. But now I see what our fans are doing since 2018 and its really just the same stuff.
Full blown Chiefs fan for 40+ years. I remember when the team was Garbage in the 80s, late 2000s and before Big Red came to KC. I appreciate this time but I know the ride doesn't last forever. Bad calls last night for sure but Packers were the better team last night.
100% all this. Too many fans think we are going to be unstoppable every year. Of course having fans of every other team think the refs help us when they really don’t is also annoying.
This has been my life as a Boston sports fan. Small groups of assholes causing problems and now any fan of any of their teams are labelled racists. Like no, i disagree with those assholes, but they are the ones every other fanbase points to.
Absolutely this. Have a lot of Chiefs fans that either came on during the good times or apparently forgot the bad years. They should be forced to watch (or rewatch) the 2007 - 2012 seasons with their eyes taped open.
Remember what the Midwest is supposed to be about. Be thankful and proud, but be gracious.
Officiating was ass, but goddam did Love throw some beautiful passes that resulted in equally spectacular catches. All I could do was shake my head and say "Damnit. That was fucking pretty."
The Packers never lost the lead. They scored in back to back drives in the first quarter. The defense held the Chiefs to field goals. The interception by Nixon shut down a late game Chiefs drive. To say the game was firmly decided by the refs is proof that you didn't watch the game.
The refs have been terrible ALL season. That itself needs to be improved.
Also, you NEVER take personal attacks on people like Johnny Barks when he posts a verifiable clip of Mahomes' press conference. That is not helping any argument you are trying to make. That's horrible.
Can't tell if the "you" in your last sentence refers to Grossi or the 'fans' attacking people. Which is it?
@@curiousKuro16 "You" is referring to the Chiefs fans who started attacking Johnny Barks after he posted a video of Mahomes' press conference. Grossi isn't attacking anyone.
Look what the haters did to Aaron Rodgers after being the best Quarterback ever, he himself made the statement about cancel culture, it's socially acceptable to be jerks now because they can't be punished!
To anyone in Chiefs Kingdom that was going after Johnny Barks personally after last night's game, Stop. Just stop, we can be upset about the loss but personal attacks are not okay.
I need to hug Johnny after that cuz no one deserves that 😢
For real. I'm starting to feel bad this season more than anything. Feels like there's been a lot of blame game and no "good game" with fans this year.
I genuinely don't know what was more gross to me. The anti-Eagles hate speech yesterday, or the *real* extra Kansas City fans last night.
@@LilyMaeBlossom What was the hate speech towards the Eagles?? I missed that
@@catalyst1641 Oh it was just a joke. If you tuned into any game via livestream you'd see people cheering on the 49ers, not to win, but to take Hurts or Swift outta the game.
Then comment sections on videos involved with it saw a ton of Eagles fans who said it was well played met with crap loads of insults saying person in specific was trash talking and deserved worse.
What made it worse was it was the 49ers trash talking all week long, so it just turned into a lot of projecting on that fanbase. I've got a father who's an Eagles fan, but frankly I don't care for the NFC at all. But this last week made me dislike the San Fran fanbase (online that is). I just don't get how you can cheer suplexing and fighting or going for injuries cause of a bad fan.
dittoing this. Be upset at the team for stinking up the place, not other people.
Poor Johnny; that was rude! We love Johnny. He puts together amazing videos!
Also, congrats on that win, Packers! Go Go Pack Pack🎉🎉🎉
They lost bc they were out played, simple as that.
Tom is wise beyond his years. That’s one of the many reasons why I love watching him. #GOPACKGO
I've been a Chief's fan since before they built Arrowhead. They shared a crappy municipal stadium with the Royals. They've had good years and really, really bad ones. But they never had success or failure because of the refs. There are teams like the Saints, Bills, Dolphins and Jets to name a few that saw their whole season end on one bad call. Quit your crying, Chief's Kingdom.
someone called me one of those "new bandwagon chiefs fans" because i said Nagy might be the problem. Also called me a Broncos fan and salty Eagles fan.... i laughed while staring at my Steve Bono jersey... the very first Chiefs jersey available for me to buy in eastern PA
Are you seriously going to forget Chris Jones roughing the passer call in the AFC Championship on Brady?
@@deemity7557 So that one call cost Chiefs everything? If that's how you think, then I guess the PI on JuJu in the Super Bowl is the only reason we beat Philly? That's how losers think. Bad calls are part of the game.
@@OldNavy-z9h I think after the playoffs last year it's hard to argue they haven't had success because of the refs. They got some absurd calls against the Bengals to get to the superbowl, and then again in the superbowl to win it.
Sounds like a case of partisan blinders. Chiefs fans can claim some absurd calls that went against them as well as no-calls in the same games. If you are talking about late hit out of bounds and PI call in the Super Bowl, those were both legit calls. @@Michael-yb7jh
Also nobody is giving eric bieniemy any credit, hes been gone and that offense has not been clicking.
As a bears fan i have to say it. FIRE NAGY
Chiefs fans don’t get to complain about refs after the AFC championship… and the Super Bowl… and the Jets game… and the Vikings game
Here's the worst part. The whining is not only coming from Chiefs fans, it's coming from the Swifties and they are more insufferable than any fanbase in the league. As a Ravens fan, we have players on our squad who are friends with top celebrities, and their fanbases have never whined about REFBALL even though we've been in some of the worst officiated games of the year.
The chiefs deserve the swifties clan😂😂😂
As a Bengals fan, I’ve seen this non stop since January
Literally
As a chiefs fan i can say that we are not great this year, but also, that last drive of the Packers/Chiefs game had some of the worst officiating ive seen for both sides
Yeah it's true, I don't care if the advantage is given to us or not, no calls that obvious should be called like that. It was a good game though Green Bay, wish you the best of luck this year!
packers had 1 missed DPI call while the Chiefs got a free roughing call, a free timeout with the penalty that should've taken 10 seconds off AND started the clock on the whistle, forward progress that should've kept the clock going but guess we're giving them another free timeout
so how is that for both sides when yall got 2 extra timeouts and 15 yards for hitting Kermit in bounds? refs tried as hard as they could to give them a chance
@@jeremy0828that 1 missed call had a larger yardage impact that all the rest of those calls.
Also are we just gonna forget the 4th and 2 conversion where literally every replay couldn't NOT show the facemask penalty on the guy pressuring Love.
Edit: I'm not saying Chiefs lost cos of the refs, I'm just sick of hearing people say shit like "it offsets" or "makeup call" when 50 - 15 ≠ 0
@jeremy0828 there were more than just the dpi no call that benefited the Packers
@@jeremy0828oh shut up. You’re going to just forget that the first two drives refs threw bs flags that forced the Chiefs into field goal situations? Refs were bad for both teams. Quit acting high and mighty.
As an Eagles fan, I'm sad about the loss and there were DEFINITELY some blown calls by the refs but overall I would say the 49ers just played better than us and specifically our defense let us down for sure. All I'll say is that they beat us bad this time but we'll likely see em again in the playoffs for round 2.
I'm a Chief fan and i can't stand our fanbase half the time. I blame social media.
The Refs have been horrible all season for every game. Seems like they are biased at times or call phantom calls or miss actual calls. Chiefs are not a complete football team this year. And too often right now is a reaction league. Where a lot of players were allowed time to be good. Today they get 1-4 games. Which sucks. Peyton wouldn't have been allowed in the NFL today after his first season. That is how bad the culture is about giving players time to learn and grow.
As a Bengals fan, I've came into contact with the KC fans grossi speaks of
@natej84, Don't act like you Bengals fans are saints. I have seen way worse than that from Bengals nation. Preach!!
As a Packer fan, I have the utmost respect for Patrick Mahomes. His press conference comments after the game were impressive. The same goes for Dan Campbell of the Lions. They recognized GB's effort & acknowledged that they needed to do better. Bad calls were made both ways. There's no denying that. Chief fans are top notch. Long time Packer fans feel some loyalty to Andy Reid, except when they play GB. Following the likes of Favre & Rodgers is no easy task. I admire Love's patience, hard work, and the way he handles himself on & off the field. We have been blessed at the QB position for a long time,, & we should remain thankful!
As a diehard Chiefs fan, these Chiefs fan blaming the refs are not Chiefs fans they are just bandwagons. True chiefs fans know we got outplayed sucks that we are represented by the sour few who whine about the refs
Chiefs' transition to the Patriots is now complete.
I’m a chiefs fan from KC, and I just don’t get where this complaining is coming from.
Is it fun to shout out your TV about the reffing for like 15 minutes after the loss? Of course. It’s cathartic. But to then go out in public and sell it like we objectively got screwed over? Mahomes/Grossi said it perfectly, we weren’t leading for a second of that game. Packers had us the whole way through.
Setting that aside, who even cares? I guess it has 1st seed implications, but the Chiefs are almost certainly making it to the playoffs. What really matters at this point is cleaning up the sloppy mistakes, getting the receivers up to snuff, and avoiding injuries.
might not even be Chiefs fans fam
refs were very one sided. but chiefs played like ass and half the d was out
@@morry32 oh cry bandwagon
bandwagon for 45 years@@black_panther527
@@morry32 ok bandwagon because I’m not one
I remember when people called for Adams to be let go in his second year. Patience is a great thing
There’s just a lot of crappy fans from every team voicing their opinions because it is the internet. It’s not fans debating and having fun anymore, just attacking.
But then again that’s what they’re doing on ESPN and NFL Network. As well as in stadiums across the country. It’s a bad look.
I have been a Chiefs fan since the Lenny Dawson era. To my fellow fans and members of the Chiefs Kingdom, grow up! Show the class that we should be showing. I don't like the fact we lost, but the Chiefs beat themselves. Yes there was some bad calls and key injuries, but they should of have not been in the position they were in. Hard pill to swallow but we lost due to inconsistent play.
If there are any long time Chiefs fans being toxic, it's because of the constant shit we've had to put up with since the Chiefs had the temerity to actually be good.
Im not blaming the refs but Im hearing a lot of of what I heard last night because.
We've put up with Denver through Elway, Manning and now it looks like Russell. We're plenty empathetic, even to Broncos & Raiders fans.
The worst ones are definitely the newbies. Chiefs fans have traditionally been one of the most hospitable fan bases i the NFL. To say the Chiefs haven't been humbled or have been ptoo good for too long is complete bullshit. I could say the same thing for the period the Broncos were so successful.
The Chiefs had 40 years between Superbowl appearances. While we were good after Schottenheimer got here, he never won a playoff game. We've had some of the best players and teams in league at times but furthest players like Derrick Thomas ever got was numerous Pro Bowls. One of the best tight ends to ever play the game, Tony Gonzalez, broke down and cried when he finally made the second round of the playoffs and that only happened because he went to the Falcons. Neil Smith finally got a ring by going to the Broncos of all places. He's still loved in KC, which just points more to the current crop of toxic fans are since Reid and Mahomes got here. And they'll be gone as soon there's another hot team and QB to follow.
And anyone who pulled that shit on Johnny Barks isn't an actual Chiefs fan. They're just toxic shit stirrers.
*50 years between Superbowls...
@@wc1994 You're right. Misskey. It's what happens when I don't proofread.
OMG - I just re-read the post and as a professional writer, it's embarrassing how much I didn't catch when I wrote it. I edit text message! Yeesh. Last time I use speech to text......
Chargers fan here :( the chiefs fans being salty have NO reason to act that way after the years they've had since Mahomet got there. I've also seen journalists get über protective and were questioning the win bc the "godteam" didn't get the calls it needed to win. At the same time, I used to be a bears fan and know a ton of packers fans from back home. I'm not asking Tom to look inward, bc he isn't a part of that sect of the fan base, but green bay aren't exactly the pinnacle of humble when they win. I knew when this game was played that the next day was going to be awful in terms of fan reaction no matter which direction it went, and I wasn't disappointed
i mean, I as a Chiefs fan, was being attacked by fellow Chiefs fans for even suggesting Nagy might be the problem and they needed EB more than we thought. Its just "fans", they are toxic. Lol i laughed because by the same chiefs "fan" i was accused of being a short term fan, a Broncos fan, and a salty Eagles fan. My Steve Bono jersey is older than you!
Chiefs fan here. The officiating was bad, but that isn't why the Chiefs lost. The Chiefs lost because they got outplayed from the beginning of the game to the end of the game. The Chiefs looked lackadaisical, and it was apparent that they overlooked the Packers. If you play down to your opponent in the NFL, you will get beat. The injuries had impacts if only temporarily, but that contributed to the Packers jumping to a lead. In the Mahomes era, the expectations are high and therefore the let downs are greater when they don't perform to the level of expectations.
Too distracted by Commercials, Taylor Swift...
@@wc1994 Maybe Swift, but the Commericials were done in the offseason, the main problem right now is the WR Coach with no WR experience and it shows with the WR regression and/or lack of progression outside of Rashee Rice.
Chiefs fan here. Shit happens. It's a game. The Packers beat our ass.
Facts. Still my team. Go Chiefs!!! Get your heads out of your ass- Offense
3 sacks in the red zone, 2 turnovers, red zone penalties. The chiefs didn’t come to play and thought they would just work over the packers. They got outplayed. Plain and simple.
one turnover. get it right
@@memeloser2376one INT and one turnover on downs = 2
I'm a chiefs fan my mom is a Packers fan... that was a hard loss for me but it's because the chiefs played bad on both sides of the ball
Chiefs fan here, I’m pretty young for a Chiefs fan (22), and I remember growing up asking my dad “will the Chiefs ever be good?” Our franchise shifted when we got Andy Reid and Alex Smith in 2013 and started the season 10-0, but it was still a battle to win a playoff game. Mahomes came and got us over the hump. I can promise you 90% of those rude fans are bandwagoners with no empathy. Extreme credit to your Packers for winning, bad calls happen every game and it’s the team’s job to not leave it in the hands of the refs. Even so, the refs were bad for both sides. Packers straight up won, and I’m honestly glad to see it. To see the Packers in a new era with a new QB people were giving up on too quick (part of the problem Tom Brady probably sees in the NFL) finally succeeding is an amazing thing, and I’m happy for y’all. Chiefs are gonna be fine too, real Chiefs fans shouldn’t be freaking out because our problem can be pretty much attributed to bad/underdeveloped receivers. The Chiefs are gonna win the west and have a playoff ticket, which is all that matters, not regular season wins. Both these teams can do some damage in the playoffs if they get hot at the right time, especially the Chiefs, so is it really that hard for Chiefs fans to be happy for the Packers, or at least respect them? I should think not. Thats how you find the fake bandwagoners
Time for fairweather fans to leave Chiefs Kingdom!
I do not like toxicity, I'm just a chiefs fan here to enjoy watching football as a bonding experience with friends, yes I'm heart broken but that's just how the game is.
As a chiefs fan I'm so sorry. I can assure you 99% of chiefs fans are NOT like this. Its unfortunately the silent minority. Packers didn't win because of refs. Chiefs made mistakes and Packers capitalized on it and played better. The refs all around were awful but this loss is on us.
As a Chiefs fan (and a Football fan) Love look great. Those two throws (Love) did in the crowd after 4 and short and then into the end zone were amazing. It was a good a game. Yes, I would love to see the Chiefs win, but they didn't play well last night and did not win the game. Honestly, I wasn't sure which Chief offense was going to show up last night. The one that won against the Raiders the previous week or the ones that have been losing the games prior to their bye week.
This is what happens when a bunch of bandwagon fans jump on, paints all the others in a bad light. As a Chiefs fan it annoys the hell out of me. But on that same note, a lot of nfl fans are insufferable.
Taylor Swift was no match for Tony Shalhoub and Liv Morgan
That no-call on the MVS pass... Not all contact is the same. And the Ref was right there and had a clear view... Valentine had his head turned arround and was playing the ball,which is a critical factor in call/no call... was there contact? Yes... did it effect the result of the play? Hard to say MVS was almost as much as a defender as Valentine was. As for the Kelci in the endazone? Based on the trajectory he had no chance, and almost everyone agrees that Refs don't flag PI in hail mary's unless excessively aggregious.
Grossi: us Commanders fans are the same when it comes to our players. Howell is both the league MVP and our latest biggest draft bust, depending on who you ask. *shrug* Fans, man...
As a bears fan depending qho you ask we stick with fields or go for caleb 😂 and its like if we go for caleb NOTHING changes and honestly i think justin has embraced the bears
NFL officials are bad. Adopt CFL reviews. It's way better and much more fair because the right calls are eventually made most of the time. I prefer a fair game where the team that plays better wins.
Look, I'm a chiefs fan and I agree that most chiefs fans suck lol
Sure the refs suck. You know why the Chiefs lost last night? The CB that intercepted the Mahomes talked about it after the game. He read play the and ball. A CB for the Packers is better at grabbing balls than almost all of the WR's of the Chiefs. That is why they lost.
A Chiefs fan did a huge post on how much fun they had at Lambeau, and how great the fans were. It's also tradition that you offer a brat and a beer to an opposing fan when tailgating.
Lifetime Chiefs fan here. Sorry some idiots were giving people a hard time. Just like fans of any team it's hard when you lose a game and there are obvious non-calls. The refs were just bad for both sides though. Refs are an easy thing to blame but the difference in the game was the first 2 drives for each team when the Chiefs kicked field goals while the packers got touchdowns. Add those 8 points back in and the chiefs just would have needed a field goal to win. You can't leave it up to the refs. The packers played a great game though. Congrats.
Agree with Tom, the amount of bandwagon fans being so loud about this when they have clearly benefited from calls in recent past.
I think we need to retire the whole "lost because of the refs" narrative because it's becoming an excuse every week, but the no call pi on MVS and the bad "late hit" on Mahomes being called, the refs were bad all around and need to be taken a look, but it shouldn't be the reason Packers won and Chiefs lost
Yep, the refs were bad, but at least they were evenly bad.
I agree. As an Eagles fan who has seen fans from other teams cry about how the refs are on our side all year long, it's annoying. But the game is the game. We win when we play well (or clutch), and we lose when we don't. Eagles lost last night not due to the refs but just by being overpowered by a similarly dominant team in the 49ers. That said, the officiating is horrific this year, and it feels like it's getting worse as the years go by. However, it's a team sport after all. The sooner toxic fans stop blaming ref ball and just admit their team needs to make adjustments, the less toxic the fan bases would be. Can't expect perfection from the league every week. It's delusional.
Do people actually believe they lost because of the refs? I always figured it was just a way to bitch about losing.
@@Tinystrom There are a lot of people that look at number instead of timing. They act like it's all about the first half, look at a couple no-calls or bad calls in it. When in reality, the only half that matters is the second one. Can't win the game in the first after all (unless you are REALLY dominant).
@@Tinystrom I read a few comments about it, and some of our more hardcore fans are blaming the refs, feeding into the delusion that our team is without flaw. Most of the fans, however, agree with my analysis. We were outplayed last night, and that's all there is to it.
I think the real issue is that these people don’t really care about football. They just like attacking others. If they’re not attacking other teams they’re attacking their own team.
These are the people who thought professional wrestling was real and rooted for the bad guys. Now they moved on to other areas like real sports, politics, and popular entertainment.
no for real the chiefs are considered the default to win by their fans and the media. if they lose to the eagles, suddenly the eagles are just lucky MVS dropped a ball when the Chiefs have been having WR problems all year. for ANY other team that's considered having a problem at WR, for the chiefs that's a lucky asterisk win. the chiefs can't ever just be a flawed team like the rest of the NFL (as they have shown to be NUMEROUS times this season and not just when they've lost).
and like yeah, social media propells the worst parts of every fanbase and it's definitely not all chiefs fans. but goddamn.
I live in Missouri everyone’s like “they’ll make the playoffs anyways”
I mean, are they wrong?
The chiefs benefited 3 times on that drive. The Mahomes hit but also the tackle on mvs should have been ruled in bounds so clock would have been running and on the reviewed fumble play chiefs had a penalty called and no timeouts remaining so should have been a 10 second run off and clock starting on the whistle. Refs were terrible on both sides.
dude was going out of bounds and is an elite QB what fucking world are you on
Every fan base has a toxic bunch. Some have more than others, but every team has them.
Grossi...the Chiefs were very tough in the 90s under the late Marty Schottenheimer...defensively they were fierce for a long time
Chiefs went 50 years between Superbowls, I'm 52. Chiefs hadn't won a playoff game since Joe Montana was qb until Andy Reid's second year as Coach and we didn't win another playoff game until Mahomes 2nd year. So I lived damn near 50 years with 2 playoff wins... Chiefs were always 1 and done in the playoffs before Mahomes!!!
To the chiefs fans before mahomes, yall cool. To the bandwagon fans, yall some toxic frontrunners
If there's one thing I've noticed across multiple sports, politics, and even in entertainment over the last decade or so - people have been getting REALLY into conspiracy shit. Everything has to have an agenda or some sinister underpinning.
Are people really surprised that Chiefs Kingdom acts like this? (Tom and Brandon are being very generous by describing it as a minority, we all know it's not.) They've been like this since the moment Mahomes slipped on that first championship ring. Entitled, boo-hooing, poor sportsmanship, gloating, excuse-making, etc. The list goes on forever. Sore winning is something I simply cannot abide, and it's been front and center since Day 1. I relish the coming mediocrity, it's a long overdue comeuppance.
Ah. So you’re not adding to the toxicity by just generalizing every Chiefs fan? I swear y’all salivate at the thought of the Chiefs losing. It’s pretty pathetic.
It's pretty funny how the entire AFC west is living vicariously through the Packers right now, LoL. P.S. i see the Broncos finally got a Qb that doesn't look like a horse! Ha
What else is new when it comes to Chiefs fans? Lol.
I live in KS yes cheifs fans are unbearable ever since they got mahomes
(Insert favorite team) vs refs 😡
But fr people need to stop using this excuse because most the times the refs are bad in general
Absolutely agree 💯
Honestly Tom and Perna are both right about the Chiefs in terms of whether they were trash or serviceable. In the 70s and 80s they were pretty bad, then they were good in the 90s, trash again in the 2000s for the most part, and then after Andy Reid took over as HC in 2013, they have been consistently good or great after one awful Romeo Crennel complete season.
2 playoff wins in 40 years is not good. This team was always 1 and done in playoffs before Mahomes.
We as cheeseheads have plenty of memories of good ol MVS. Dude could've been wide open on that nonPI call, he's still dropping it. Chiefs fans tears are best served warm in December.
KC fan here. So many fans all over are complaining legitimately about the officiating. Lots of bad calls during the game. Bottom line for me is that KC didn't play well enough to win. Bad calls, but the right team won this game.
It's crazy, there's a whole lot more people that live in Kansas nowadays than there were back in the day 🤣
Tom, I agree Pack outplayed Chiefs. But the drive where you say the Chiefs benefited, the yardage doesn’t equate to the 40+ yard PI that was not called on MVS. Would have put them at the 9. They don’t equal each other.
Dear Chiefs fans, you got outplayed.
Hey Johnny I thing your great and keep it up. Just sports fans.
The sad thing is is that all the Internet cares about are those least few calls. What about those 2 phantom calls while Chiefs were in the Red zone at the beginning? And if they were true then why aren't we being that technical all throughout the game/league?
Not enough people talk about all the horrible calls throughout a game, and thats why we're going to keep having horrible officiating
Sounds about right for KC fans. I spent my college years in Springfield, MO around a bunch of insufferable Chiefs fans during the Aughts and that was more than enough to make me delight in their losing forever.
That’s pretty pathetic😂 chiefs living rent free in your head😂
Everyone besides Packers: Welcome to Monday Night Football. Meanwhile Packers: Welcome to Makeup Night Football.
I want to acknowledge the rails gesture, Perna used to party.
Yeah I turned on ESPN this morning, and the fake outrage was hilarious. saying stuff like "the Mahomes out of bounds call wasnt important"
Bro Chiefs fan Need To Learn To An L and cope with it
There’s no way this is coming from a Philly fan who probably cried about the Super Bowl all offseason
I'm a Chief's fan. Broncos v Texans also faced bad refs. Packer's flat outplayed the Chiefs. Mr. Love looked great! well aside from one or two plays - but on ALL the others, he looked great!
Cris Collinsworth sounded like he was going to cry it was the highlight of the evening
Actually, I've been seeing moreso the Packers fans being toxic atm; especially on the Lions pages... 😔
I'm just glad Grossi is one of the good ones 😁
Yeah, look, I'm not going to pretend that Chiefs don't have a lot of asshole bandwagoners but I think it's excessive the scapegoating done on this show about Chiefs fans when the show keeps specifically calling them out to antagonise them. Green Bay fans have had their bandwagoners be sorry in the past too, and lord knows the shit we put up with from Broncos fans when they were good.
It's a larger nature of shitty fair-weather fans that extends beyond one team, beyond the NFL entirely.
@@DNeonLampwell what do you expect when one of the hosts is a Denver fan. Dude literally lives for seeing the Chiefs lose.
@@DNeonLamp Have you tuned into a Grossi stream before? Not a GPS, a Grossi specific stream when he watches Kansas City. His chat is almost always filled to the brim with "cmon refs, ofc you'd screw over KC."
This is genuine experience, Tom is an interactive streamer.
@@LilyMaeBlossom I'm certain you have no confirmation bias in whether you assign this as a character trait of KC fans versus literally every fan base ever asking for penalties. You can literally hear crowds on broadcast do this in every game but I'm sure there's a very logical reason you'll give me for Chefs fans being the only ones who also do it online.
imagine being a chiefs fan talking about a blown call, ha mahomes sets up his late hits out of bounds (i peeped bro he slows down til he about to get hit) ya'll have rings shh...
Why are they assuming they'd score from there when we stopped them twice earlier and they would make the 2pt when they already failed once.
Mahomes and Kelce and Reed are used to getting those calls to help them late in a game now that it's on the other foot their true colors come out. This bs happens in everygame that has to be script. Some games are not scripted but the NFL uses officials to rig games just get use to it cause sometimes it's for your team and sometimes it's not.
Hey Kansas City Chiefs fans maybe if you ask why the receivers can't catch a ball at all plus going after Johnny Barks like you really are that low to do that grow up stop being babies the refs was bad was bad but sure blame others for your loss the team has ISSUES ALOT OF THEM!
I am not sure why some of my fellow Chiefs Fans are so toxic. We do lose games not because of bad officiating, we lose games because our WRs are not stepping up. I am not sure if we can fix this problem this season. Last year we could compensate the lost of Hill, this year I don't know.
as a chiefs fan, I ain't claiming any of these folks. Also I'm from KC and have a been a fan my whole life, but I don't think it's a coincidence how many "fans" came out of the woodworks once we got Mahomes. At some point the fairweather fans will jump on some other team, while I'll still be rooting for my Chiefs. Sorry people have been so rude online.
Chiefs fans are not crying about just the PI on MVS. They are pointing to horrible officiating on how Chiefs are also the victims of that. Yet every Chiefs hater said "Chiefs get favorable calls by Refs". What a f***** BS. Atleast be consistent with your takes and not overreact when your team loses/wins.
When a team rises to the top this happens, it doesn’t matter which team it is. Everyone says Green Bay fans are spoiled or New England and now it’s KC. When you’re on top you get all the prime time, everyone is watching those games. There’s bad officiating in every other game too but you just don’t see it.
Most of the Chiefs fans I've seen have calmed down and are fine, it's NFCN rivals mostly talking shit by now
I still see them talking about Sirianni and that was even more irrelevant 😂
Not the chiefs fans on twitter lol
Every fan whines and moans when their team loses do to questionable officiating and conveniently forgets every win they have from questionable officiating. Just shut up and accept it lol
First hi love your video and keep up the great work
the chiefs won a superbowl in 1970, not just the mahomes wins
Also Chiefs fans: shut up
You’ve had how many calls go your way during last year’s playoffs??
Ridiculous
You guys whining after getting the result you don’t want…it’s not like there was a BS call on the Packers as well…
Here's the issue:
Brady and Manning broke fan's expectations moving forward in this league. If a QB doesn't look like the next best thing ever, he's a bust. If they do look great, they immediately get compared to Brady, and that's entirely unfair, even for Mahomes still. As stated in this video, everyone over reacts each week to what we see. They don't allow for the natural ups and downs that are inevitable, because we saw Brady, and to a lesser degree Manning, stay at basically peak performance for so long.
So with that being said, the vocal online KC fan base is rabid about proving Mahomes is better than Brady, so they can't allow a loss to occur without trying to justify it. I think many (the people who act out in the way discussed in this clip) are suffering from an inferiority complex, which is crazy unfortunate to spend Mahomes's career worrying about that rather than just enjoying it.
They missed several calls. Both ways. The missed call at the end robbed the Packers of the exclamation mark win and strengthens the belief the NFL is not a fair league. The Chiefs lost the game. We were out played. The missed call suck-but we also kinda sucked at playing football.
The Bills get absolutely railroaded against the Eagles and not a word, KC has a no call DPI and Collinsworth won’t shut up about it for 15 minutes.
I’ll completely admit I’m one of those that thought/thinks love is not good. But winning is all that matters so I’ll take a mediocre QB that wins and brings home the Lombardi then an amazing QB that can’t get it done. Not attacking Rodgers or Farve there, I will always love them for the joy they brought me.
That depends on what jordan will do this off season.. Cuz ig you barely miss the playoffs you'll be where you were last year... And depending how love approaches it he might pull a kyler or daniel jones.amd demand his money this season cuz let's face it. You've got no one to replace love and you can't draft anyone so it might become a "shoot yourself in the foor situation"
But people want to talk crazy about Nick sirianni popping off at the end of the chiefs game, they were probably talking the whole game
Lol lets not even talk about Pacheco who swung at and punched a Packer player and it was a Total No call which should of been 15 yard and a player ejection! That alone should of sealed the deal.
The hail marry couldn't have happened without them stopping the clock when forward progress stopped in bounds. If the clock kept going they wouldn't have had the chance
Chief fans complaining about the refs…oh how the tables have turned😂😂
How could the refs lose them the game if they couldn’t have even mathematically won on the last drive. The best they could do was tie and still needed a 2 point conversion to even do it.