I think the drill press has always been under rated in the Woodworking community. Candle holders, shaker sets, even bowls can be done with this and enough pays for the press. But I agree, I rarely use a jointer, planer and cabinet table saw...
I have seen you on TH-cam & watched a couple videos here & there.. but now that I’ve read into woodworking the past year & finally began to understand things like (what drill bits pair with what size screws/bolts, why & how to find the studs in the wall & why it’s important, how to USE my drill, why CLAMPS rule, why MDF for the most part SUCKS, & so much more..) Well now I’m finding…. that YOU HAVE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD INFORMATION & EXCELLENT / RELEVANT INSIGHT to give. You know your stuff & you’re really on point with exactly what someone who’s really seriously trying to be most effective in woodworking is going to be concerned with. Like I said at first I just sort of passed you up. But now I see that you’re just for the slightly more serious in-it-to-win-it woodworkers that aren’t playing around. I’ll definitely be tuning in to you more often. Thanks for existing. - Erin K
My first big purchase was a rigid miter saw from eBay. It's a solid little saw. My second purchase was 36 volt cordless metabo circular saw and I got a air dye grinder and wood burners for carving but my very very first purchase was carving knives cuz I'll just really like sharpening knives
100% agree on all of it.one thing i wiuld do differently if you already have a table saw, miter saw and add a drill press. Build an oversized drill press table. not really any cheaper, but give you more stability on longer stock.
Hey! Rocking The Chosen Shirt! I love it! Thanks for this video, I'm not quite ready to buy a big machine but this video was recommended and I thought I'd give it a watch. I have subscribed and will continue to follow your videos so I can grow as a carpenter. P.S. I love your editing man, the time travel transition was awesome! I used to do that on older videos I use to edit for a dentist. You have inspired me to get creative with transitions again. Love, Peace and Taco Grease!
Excellent advice as always. My first major tool was a miter saw that I still use. Unfortunately it does not slide. Second major tool was a bandsaw that was gifted to me. Highly recommend getting one of those ASAP! I use that thing all the time.
Freud > CMT I have full kerf rip blades in both brands for the same price. The carbide is double the thickness on the Freud, and higher quality. The CMT is a throw away blade where the Freud can be sharpened multiple times
For the Table saw if all your cutting a lot of 3/4 -1" stock you can use a smaller blade, like a 7.25 circular saw blade. Will cut faster and smaller kerf with less sawdust
I got the hercules new model tablesaw with rack an pinion fence. I gotta say I'm HIGHLY impressed with it for the price point. The miter gauge is trash so plan on building a sled for it.
Thanks for this. Depending on where you buy lumber, a planer can save you a pile of money in not having to buy 3S lumber. I can go straight to the kiln dried unsurfaced supplier and buy wood for excellent prices that I surface myself.
I got the DeWalt planer with cart and outfeed tables only $650, best financial decision. I make guitars so I absolutely need perfectly flat boards specifically for the necks and fretboards.
Hey if you are on a budget and need an awesome affordable table saw. Craftsman have just brought out a new table saw and it's really awesome for an affordable price. $235.00 is about what I spent ( I rounded up a few bucks too). That's the price with tax included. The fence is great. Locks in place and I get square cuts every time.
I'm just getting started and I'm about to buy a jobsite table saw. I'm really kicking myself because a several years ago, the father of a girl I was dating had two older, but still very nice cabinet saws (one was his father's that he inherited when he died) He just wanted the 2nd one out of his basement, so he said if I hauled it out I could have it. I wanted it but at the time I wasn't really into woodworking and had no idea what it was worth. I procrastinated and we ended up breaking up before I could get it out of there. Lesson learned though. Now if anyone offers me tools, I grab them up ASAP!
If I invite your dad to my birthday party, will he buy me a planner? Very informative video! I started w/ a compound miter saw. I wanted to replace the base boards, door and window trim in my house, and that's the fastest way to cut it. Next came a Rigid table saw because what's a garage without a table saw. My mom got it for me after I helped her make a major move I started into wood turning and added a band saw, drill press, lathe, sanding station (disk sander & belt sander in one) and finally a small jointer and a planer. Now that I 'know' what I'm doing, I get to replace them all! (except for the band saw & drill press - I bought nice ones)
Thank you for the video, this is the first video I see from your channel, and god bless you, it feels natural to listen to you if that makes any sense. I will be watching this video for many times before I get started with my own journey.
I had three brand new dewalt mitre saw delivered to the job took all three out of the boxes set them up and not one could make a square cut the company I was there for said you have to adjust the saws I packed them back and sent them back if I’m spending money on tools they need to be right when you buy replaced them with hitachi and a makita experienced no issue
As a comfortable happiest, I have the same exact miter and table saws that you have. Absolutely love both of them. They can't be beat in my opinion, based on the cost of the tool.
My bosch contractor table saw is really nice. I have, maybe the smallest space ever, so I can't have a cabinet saw, but that bosch works very well for me.
I got the Kreg ACS instead of a table saw because it is much safer, easy to move and store out of the way (in my garage) and the things I can’t do with it (compared to a table saw) can be done with a router table or hand tools. I also don’t need a miter saw. But I admit that it’s not as efficient for repeating the same cut a bunch of times because you have to spend a bit more time sliding the board under the track. That’s not a problem for me though because I’m just having fun and I don’t have to worry about losing fingers or getting a board kicked back at me. A friend gave me a bunch of old bench planes that I’m going to try to fix up and see how long I can go without a planer or jointer. I like the idea of not needing a big expensive dust collection system and being able to work without annoying my whole neighborhood all the time. The trade off is upfront learning curve and slower progress on each project. But I think I will enjoy the process and challenge more. A CNC and highly mechanized shop is great for the few who intend to make a living from woodworking, but I would bet that a huge majority of the people who watch your videos are not professionals and don’t have the money or space for that. So I actually liked your earlier videos before you had all the pro machines better. I still like what you’re doing now though.
my first major tool was definately the table saw. It being the most versatile. Then it was the jointer. i still dont have a planer, or a miter saw but am planning on getting a planer soon.
@@ToddAdams1971 10" blade. Go here and watch. Hitachi is now Metabo. th-cam.com/video/5oi5BTKl2hY/w-d-xo.html. Then, go here. www.toolbarn.com/metabo-hpt-c10rjsm.html/ By the way, it is very powerful. Recently, I have been ripping 10' 8/4 maple boards with no problems. The stand is also very stable.
@@russmartin4189 WOW. Thanks. I just got the DeWalt contractor with the stand for $600. I guess I missed out. Not that I'm not happy with the saw. It's accurate and powerful.
The radial arm saw is an excellent alternative to compound miter sliding saw. Much cheaper now because most people do not know, or many do not have the temperament to really use it safely. The realistic comparison is RAS vs Compound miter slider, or just compound miter saw, not RAS vs table saw. This is in terms of cost and shop footprint.
I had a DWS779 sliding miter saw and returned it because of the huge amount of space it takes up. Replaced it with a Bosch GCM12SD and never looked back. Not quite as solid IMO, but the space saving was invaluable. Add the laser for $30 too... just saying.
Thanks for the tips. I have that same dewalt saw and it cuts great. I have an old porter skill saw that i have used instead of a table saw for two reasons. First i don’t have a shop so i can’t set up the table the way it needs to be set. Second i trust my self to make those straight cuts. Learning how to do project with basic tools builds a foundation for a master craftsman.
After a bunch of research AND before I saw this video, I just purchased a CMT blade for my Saw Stop Job Site Pro. It's night night and day compared to the stock Sawstop blade!!! It was nice t see that you recommended them as well!
@@brettfaris9883 I guess it's really according to the type of woodwork you do. I use a lot of rough lumber so I do use the planer for some projects. I do a lot of turning on the lathe. So the bandsaw is important to me. I think the planer is wise if you do a lot of board work.
Yeah, I was drooling over that at lowes just last week. I didnt have the cash for it, and I got the Craftsman table saw. Its actually a pretty damned good little table saw. I'm a DeWalt guy, and I am comparing the Craftsman to a DeWalt table saw.
Hey Matt, I know you also mentioned about getting a Band Saw, I was going back and forth about one and my actual usage of it. I would up going a Sears outlet store that was closing their doors and and got a Rikon 14" band saw that was a floor display(with everything)unit, still new for $400 and some change. Excellent piece of equipment (especially after I put my Alex Snodgrass adjustments). Shop around for some good deals.
I had a Rigid job site table but I returned it and bought the Delta 36-725 and I’m very happy with the Delta. If you need portability get a job site saw otherwise the 36-725 or newer version is a superior saw. I also didn’t like the direct drive system on job site saws. You mentioned WEN products, I have a WEN band saw, belt/disc sander and oscillating spindle sander and I think they are very good tools. WEN tools are underrated imho. I use hand planes which I have a lot of experience with and I’m able to get the results needed to square hardwood or softwood for my projects. I buy from a locale lumber yard and some local harvested kiln dried 4 quarter and larger but power planes or jointers aren’t on my list. They can make short work of cleaning up a board but the noise, wood chips & dust is a big factor in not having them.
Good video Matt. Don't forget for those on a budget to hit the used market. I bought a Ridgid TS 3650 for $350 about 10 year ago and it's still going strong.
They hold there value. Tuned properly I can get glue line rips with a standard ripping blade. The edge literally looks like someone took a plane to it. It’s a great saw to this day for what you pay for them.
One of the big differences in the higher end tools is just pure power, not just larger size. Quality of cuts and milling decreases if you push a tool beyond it's capacities, which isn't hard if you're talking about 15-18A 120V tools. Smaller platforms and motor sizes substantially decrease what you can do effectively, but can still be perfectly suitable for a lot of people.
Looking back, at when the stimulus checks were being issued, and I received mine. I sat down and planned out what to buy. I bought a few things first that I actually wish I would have waited and got later on. I got a DeWalt combo kit, and some hand tools. Yes a great investment towards wood working, but I wish I would have gotten a table saw, planer, and jointer first.....then the combo set.... I have a Craftsman table saw now ( after a bad purchase from Harbor Freight, that I took back)... The "should of, would of and could of's" sort of beat me up, but, I've learned to lighten up on myself a bit here lately. Just lessons in life that hopefully I can pass on to others as in what not to do. Well, depending on what sort of direction you want to go in with wood working. I guess I was stuck in my "construction work" frame of mind as to why I did what I did. Thinking I could do some side work to make money to buy everything else I needed for wood working projects.... Thanks for sharing your experiences with all. I just know that wood working and construction work are two totally different types of work. P.S. if any one has made it this far with reading my "book" I wrote here... If you are on a budget, and need an awesome table saw, the new Craftsman table saw that's just come out, its awesome for the price. The fence is straight ( and the latch that locks it in place is rock solid), the table itself is straight, and the stand is decent. Over all on a scale of 1 to 10....I give it a 5.5.
Another silly person who spent the stimulus, the government loves people like you, invest it! My first $1200 stimulus has returned me $3600 in the 1st year, took that along with the other stimulus checks and bought and already sold a piece of land, in all, the stimulus checks helped our family make $27,000. Just gotta be patient
@@betterthanideserve76 wow, that's awesome sounds great. Good for you!!! Glad to hear you invested your stimulus money wisely. So, I'm silly for spending the stimulus money on tools to get my own business going??? So I'm silly for creating a future for myself and a legacy to pass on to my older boys?? So I'm silly for turning my life around with the stimulus money. Ok, good to know. This is the first time on this channel that someone has been rude, and out right offensive. Yes, it is a social media site and there is trash everywhere I'm sad to say.
I know its probably a long shot for some starting woodworkers, I have only started couple of years ago and I would definitely recommend or even look into projects that requires Router table setup, its absolut game-changer custom handles for drawers even to make nice edge or unique edge on some of your projects
I have the Dewalt 7485 right now but the one thing I hate .... hate ... is the blade is too close to the front of the saw! It doesn't have the room to line up with the fence. I have had it for a few years and it's time to upgrade. I am in a two car garage and the larger saws like the Harvey and others is just too big. Do you have the newest model of the Delta table saw? Are you happy with the features? I am binge watching all the videos you have and find them to be great and they caver the stuff no one talks about! Keep up the great work!
I have the Delta Cruzer and it is a great saw. It is heavy if you are taking it to a jobsite, but I would imaging that if you are going for a saw with zero clearance behind the saw you are using it as a stationary unit in a shop. It also has the lights that cast a shadow line rather than the laser, which is very nice as well. It was a big upgrade from the Chicago Electric.
I bought the Wen jointer and it's actually really good. So if your short on cash you might want to try the Wen, I also bought the Dewalt DW735x first but had touble leveling boards even with the sled.
Whichever order works when you can find the best deal on Craigslist marketplace and so on. Just got a new to me $600 dust collector looks like brand new for $100 time to buy and runs like new.
While I agree with pretty much everything you said, I have to disagree about the miter saw, especially as a "first tool to buy". Having said that, it really depends on what you're going to make. If you've always got a lot of long boards to cut, it makes sense to get a miter saw. My brother-in-law gave me his old Craftsman table saw and miter saw about 10 years ago. I have since replaced the table saw (with a Ridgid, which hasn't given me any problems but the Delta is a fine machine as well) but I still have the miter saw. I can't remember when the last time it was that I used it. Since getting the table saw, I've made a few sleds and I get everything done on the table saw. But again, that's me. Everyone is going to be different. Great video though. Lots of good information for anyone out there. Keep up the good work.
Why separated jointer and planer? Soon or later you will have both of them, why not a combined machine? It's quite common here both industrial both pro-hobby, both hobby category.
I think I told you I inherited a garage full of tools. I have a Rigid contractors table saw that actually was a gift to me from my boyfriend but I am afraid to use it. It sat in a box for 3 years. It’s finally out together and am looking forward to making the sled of yours. I am wondering your thoughts of a radial arm saw. That is one of the tools I inherited. It’s vintage and needs some cleaning up but I have heard horror stories as well, more than the table saw. I also have two band saws I need to figure out. I have such a small garage and also have to house my car. Makes it impossible to work in. Thanks for your videos! They are great!
You’ve been such an inspiration to me! I hope one day you do a video on how you use your jointer and planer combo. I could use the tips. Many blessings to you and your family!
I hate Mitre saws because nearly every one I have used has been out of alignment - the fence twisted/warped or off, base plate that is not even across the rotating base and side tables etc. All required sanding of the table area, fence etc to calibrate. Also shims or adjustment to guages to make them accurate. Are new Mitre saws actually accurate?
Good video my dewalts are not that accurate. Kind of frustrating but I’ve put up with them for awhile. Just recently traded out for another brand. But for capacity, the dewalt is king.
You should totally go and get the Harbor Freight collector and do all the modifications -- would be a great video and protect your lungs. Being able to do a video of installing whole shop dust collection would be a great feature series..... my 0.02c
Great video. I have the same drill press and would like to ask where you got the table from? I also was going for the DW 735 but got the WEN helical planer instead.
Another great video Matt, thank you for your hard work on these. Another video idea, maybe you could do a video about differences with these new CMT blades and picking the correct one for the correct use etc. etc. Just an idea, you don't have to. Just wanted to help contribute to the channel. :D Thanks again!
@@731Woodworks I have being following your planer videos now for a while and decided to pull the trigger on the DeWalt because of it robustness and it was on a super sale. I want to eliminate snipe 100% form this machine and drop in a decent helical cutter. What do you recommend?
If I’m not mistaken, I’ve seen you with about 3 separate miter saws, one of which was a Delta. Am I wrong? I had a large Ridgid sliding miter saw, but had to keep it so far away from the wall, it didn’t work for my shop space, and I didn’t want to drop $600+ for the Bosch sliding miter saw which has a unique sliding mechanism so you can put the saw up against the wall. I ended up buying the Dewalt 12” non sliding miter saw which has been great! I agree with you, buy the planner before the jointer. I have a nice Dewalt planner, but I’d like to get the model you have. They are the best non pro planners on the market imho! Good video…thanks for sharing.
Love my skil job site 10” table saw. Came square out of the box but more importantly you can adjust the fence, and blade if it ever gets out. It rips through everything I’ve thrown at it no problem. I think it gets overlooked as it’s skil. Rack and pinion fence adjustment too. Yes there is plastic on this saw but there is on the Milwaukee and freaky too. I think vcg construction reviewed it a little while ago. But for the 299 I paid I feel like it was bargain I think they have gone up a bit since then
2:47 Yeah... I am thinking about to get a Table Saw. For that I thought about that Rigid which is sold for $530usd at the HomeDepot around here. However for some reason when looking at the Fence System it has I feel like there could be better. The Rigid has a weird grove the Fence rides in, which looks like it could get full of wood dust and that would then annoy. I also read allot that the Rigid has allot problems, especially with the Fence. About that Delta the one complaint I hear is.... dust collection. Seemingly everyone likes the Fence System, motor and what not at it. The worst thing at the new Rigid is that the small Fence attachment flips over underneath the Fence... the same thing for the Delta flips over the Fence... it looks nearly like the small Fence attachment the DeWalt 10" Contractor Saw has. And yeah... you are so right about it having to be... square... Square... SQUARE. There is literally NOTHING... in woodworking more annoying then cutting something and it isn't square because the tool is trash.
Hey 731! Hope you're good. Your video was really informative so thanks for sharing your wisdom. I'm thinking of getting a table saw and it was useful to hear your thoughts as a more experienced woodworker. A bit of a silly question - do table saws and mitre saws use the same types of blades on the machine? (I assume it depends on the size of the blade the machine can handle too) Keep making your content and love from the UK 👊🏽
10" blades are standard on all but the largest table saws. The tooth count and configurations are gonna vary depending on what you're doing. Less teeth,say 24 are better for RIP cuts,especially in thicker or dense wood. More teeth,say 60 are good for crisp crosscuts. Some blades for plywood or paneling have upwards of 100 teeth. If you're new to tablesaws I'd suggest a good combination blade that usually has about 40-50 teeth on it. Itll RIP and crosscut pretty well,but if you're gonna be ripping alot of 2x material or hardwoods over an inch thick,also consider a dedicated ripping blade of 18-24 teeth. Most blades will be atb blades( alternating tooth bevel) which is a good all around blade,but if you cut tenons,lap joints,or the like it doesnt leave a flat surface. Itll leave little ridges all over the surface of the cut. To prevent this you can use either a dado stack or a single blade that has a flat top grind,such as the diablo glue line rip blade. Not all saws can use a dado stack,so that's something to consider too. Dado blades are fully adjustable from 1/4" to 13/16 and are for cutting grooves,dados,rabbets,lap joints,tenons,and the like. It's a very handy feature that you'll learn to love as you progress. Miter saws only crosscut,so an atb 60 or 80 tooth blade is all they need.
Your comment made me laugh! "If you have a table saw, get a planer. If you don't, then get a jointer"... no, if you don't have a table saw, get one! 🤣🤣🤣
My mom just bought me a Dewalt 739x for my birthday day, I so can wait to use it. Happy Happy Happy! Matt I also went and bought everything Diablo bc you said what you thought were the best. You went and changed on me, are the CMT's that good or is it a promotional thing? Thanks Matt!
I bought a CMT blade for my miter saw after seeing Jonathan Katz-Moses using them. Thought I would give them a try and really liked them a lot so I switched to them. Diablo still a good blade too.
Another great video Matt. How do you like the Delta mitre saw more that you have had it for a bit. I'm thinking of getting that one for my shop once it's complete
Dewalt 7491 XE is sucks... the fence is not square to the table top (you have to put shims to sq it), the table top is not flat (1.5mm out this corner etc), table top swell (bugle) a few areas, saw blade abur is not flat, the blade wobble. aus $1200 !.
Agree about the CMT blades. Also, like your shirt! Oh I do have an unrelated question. I have some projects calling for 8/4 stock. Not sure my 1965 Craftsman is up to the task. Interested in your thoughts as to minimum needs in a tablesaw for ripping walnut and maple of this size? Thx.
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I think the drill press has always been under rated in the Woodworking community. Candle holders, shaker sets, even bowls can be done with this and enough pays for the press. But I agree, I rarely use a jointer, planer and cabinet table saw...
I have seen you on TH-cam & watched a couple videos here & there.. but now that I’ve read into woodworking the past year & finally began to understand things like (what drill bits pair with what size screws/bolts, why & how to find the studs in the wall & why it’s important, how to USE my drill, why CLAMPS rule, why MDF for the most part SUCKS, & so much more..) Well now I’m finding…. that YOU HAVE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD INFORMATION & EXCELLENT / RELEVANT INSIGHT to give. You know your stuff & you’re really on point with exactly what someone who’s really seriously trying to be most effective in woodworking is going to be concerned with. Like I said at first I just sort of passed you up. But now I see that you’re just for the slightly more serious in-it-to-win-it woodworkers that aren’t playing around.
I’ll definitely be tuning in to you more often. Thanks for existing. - Erin K
I bought the Bosch GCM12SD Mitre saw and a SawStop PCS, have zero regrets. I also bought that planer , and switched out to helical cutter
My first big purchase was a rigid miter saw from eBay. It's a solid little saw. My second purchase was 36 volt cordless metabo circular saw and I got a air dye grinder and wood burners for carving but my very very first purchase was carving knives cuz I'll just really like sharpening knives
100% agree on all of it.one thing i wiuld do differently if you already have a table saw, miter saw and add a drill press. Build an oversized drill press table. not really any cheaper, but give you more stability on longer stock.
My bandsaw is my best friend 😁
Hey! Rocking The Chosen Shirt! I love it! Thanks for this video, I'm not quite ready to buy a big machine but this video was recommended and I thought I'd give it a watch. I have subscribed and will continue to follow your videos so I can grow as a carpenter.
P.S. I love your editing man, the time travel transition was awesome! I used to do that on older videos I use to edit for a dentist. You have inspired me to get creative with transitions again. Love, Peace and Taco Grease!
I’ve really enjoyed watching you grow as a content creator, Your videos are really looking great, excellent work, thanks for the tips and info!
I appreciate that!
Love that shirt... I bought one as soon as I they came out with it.
I have dust right system from Rockler and would highly recommend.
Good video Mike. See you again Tuesday night.
Thank you
My Delta 36-425 table top warpped also. Good they had 5 years warranty. Got a new replacement at Lowes and sold it and then went for a Sawstop upgrade
Excellent advice as always. My first major tool was a miter saw that I still use. Unfortunately it does not slide. Second major tool was a bandsaw that was gifted to me. Highly recommend getting one of those ASAP! I use that thing all the time.
Freud > CMT I have full kerf rip blades in both brands for the same price. The carbide is double the thickness on the Freud, and higher quality. The CMT is a throw away blade where the Freud can be sharpened multiple times
I have a miner saw. I've had it for 4 years and love it. I'm hoping to get a table saw and a router next month.
For the Table saw if all your cutting a lot of 3/4 -1" stock you can use a smaller blade, like a 7.25 circular saw blade. Will cut faster and smaller kerf with less sawdust
Miter saw, table saw, planer, THEN drill press. Thank you!
It was jet? I would have a hard time letting that go also.
Great video Matt!! God bless you and Mrs 731 . You Always have great advice
Thanks, you too!
I always learn from you! I'm a basic wood worker right now. But, we an eye on the future to expand my tools and skil.
I got the hercules new model tablesaw with rack an pinion fence. I gotta say I'm HIGHLY impressed with it for the price point. The miter gauge is trash so plan on building a sled for it.
Thanks for this. Depending on where you buy lumber, a planer can save you a pile of money in not having to buy 3S lumber. I can go straight to the kiln dried unsurfaced supplier and buy wood for excellent prices that I surface myself.
I got the DeWalt planer with cart and outfeed tables only $650, best financial decision. I make guitars so I absolutely need perfectly flat boards specifically for the necks and fretboards.
Job site Saw stop is beautiful machine
Thanks ! Good video for those who seriously wanted to set up a woodworking workshop!
I got a 12 in Dewalt with a slide, I like it. It's funny when I use it I think about you saying how much smoother the Delta Cruzer is.
Hey if you are on a budget and need an awesome affordable table saw. Craftsman have just brought out a new table saw and it's really awesome for an affordable price.
$235.00 is about what I spent ( I rounded up a few bucks too).
That's the price with tax included.
The fence is great. Locks in place and I get square cuts every time.
I'm just getting started and I'm about to buy a jobsite table saw. I'm really kicking myself because a several years ago, the father of a girl I was dating had two older, but still very nice cabinet saws (one was his father's that he inherited when he died) He just wanted the 2nd one out of his basement, so he said if I hauled it out I could have it. I wanted it but at the time I wasn't really into woodworking and had no idea what it was worth. I procrastinated and we ended up breaking up before I could get it out of there. Lesson learned though. Now if anyone offers me tools, I grab them up ASAP!
If I invite your dad to my birthday party, will he buy me a planner?
Very informative video!
I started w/ a compound miter saw. I wanted to replace the base boards, door and window trim in my house, and that's the fastest way to cut it.
Next came a Rigid table saw because what's a garage without a table saw. My mom got it for me after I helped her make a major move
I started into wood turning and added a band saw, drill press, lathe, sanding station (disk sander & belt sander in one) and finally a small jointer and a planer.
Now that I 'know' what I'm doing, I get to replace them all! (except for the band saw & drill press - I bought nice ones)
Wen makes a nice dust collector as well. They are really making a name for themselves.
Thank you for the video, this is the first video I see from your channel, and god bless you, it feels natural to listen to you if that makes any sense.
I will be watching this video for many times before I get started with my own journey.
Matt Outlaw is the best name I've ever heard
Thanks so much for the Amazon Dewalt planner deal I've been wanting one for a while, thanks to you im a proud owner of the DW735 O yeah!!!
I had three brand new dewalt mitre saw delivered to the job took all three out of the boxes set them up and not one could make a square cut the company I was there for said you have to adjust the saws I packed them back and sent them back if I’m spending money on tools they need to be right when you buy replaced them with hitachi and a makita experienced no issue
As a comfortable happiest, I have the same exact miter and table saws that you have. Absolutely love both of them. They can't be beat in my opinion, based on the cost of the tool.
Same planer, too.
My bosch contractor table saw is really nice. I have, maybe the smallest space ever, so I can't have a cabinet saw, but that bosch works very well for me.
I got the Kreg ACS instead of a table saw because it is much safer, easy to move and store out of the way (in my garage) and the things I can’t do with it (compared to a table saw) can be done with a router table or hand tools. I also don’t need a miter saw. But I admit that it’s not as efficient for repeating the same cut a bunch of times because you have to spend a bit more time sliding the board under the track. That’s not a problem for me though because I’m just having fun and I don’t have to worry about losing fingers or getting a board kicked back at me.
A friend gave me a bunch of old bench planes that I’m going to try to fix up and see how long I can go without a planer or jointer. I like the idea of not needing a big expensive dust collection system and being able to work without annoying my whole neighborhood all the time. The trade off is upfront learning curve and slower progress on each project. But I think I will enjoy the process and challenge more. A CNC and highly mechanized shop is great for the few who intend to make a living from woodworking, but I would bet that a huge majority of the people who watch your videos are not professionals and don’t have the money or space for that. So I actually liked your earlier videos before you had all the pro machines better. I still like what you’re doing now though.
my first major tool was definately the table saw. It being the most versatile. Then it was the jointer. i still dont have a planer, or a miter saw but am planning on getting a planer soon.
The Metabo HPT is an excellent contractor's table saw that comes with wheels. It runs about $400.
Is it a 8 & 1/2 inch blade? Sounds awfully cheap.
@@ToddAdams1971 10" blade. Go here and watch. Hitachi is now Metabo. th-cam.com/video/5oi5BTKl2hY/w-d-xo.html. Then, go here. www.toolbarn.com/metabo-hpt-c10rjsm.html/ By the way, it is very powerful. Recently, I have been ripping 10' 8/4 maple boards with no problems. The stand is also very stable.
It's a great saw. I got it for $299 last Christmas holiday.
@@russmartin4189 WOW. Thanks. I just got the DeWalt contractor with the stand for $600. I guess I missed out. Not that I'm not happy with the saw. It's accurate and powerful.
@@ProfitTigerSystems same here actually it was 329 from 529 then a week later 299 i went and got my 30 dollars back, i really like the saw
The radial arm saw is an excellent alternative to compound miter sliding saw. Much cheaper now because most people do not know, or many do not have the temperament to really use it safely.
The realistic comparison is RAS vs Compound miter slider, or just compound miter saw, not RAS vs table saw. This is in terms of cost and shop footprint.
I had a DWS779 sliding miter saw and returned it because of the huge amount of space it takes up. Replaced it with a Bosch GCM12SD and never looked back. Not quite as solid IMO, but the space saving was invaluable. Add the laser for $30 too... just saying.
Like your Chosen Tshirt !!
I love my Rikon 10-326 but if I was to buy one today,I would look very hard at the Harvey brand.
Agree with you on the drill press. bought one off a work mate, very handy tools.
My table saw came with a CMT blade on it and I love it, been a great blade for me the entire time.
Once dialed in, the Skil 6307 ROCKS. (in terms of fence squareness as mentioned around the 3:45 mark)
Love that shirt! Love that show!! Love your channel!!! Love Jesus!!!!
Thanks so much!!
Good advice, nice video thanks
I am about ready for a table saw.
Awesome 👏
Thanks for the tips. I have that same dewalt saw and it cuts great. I have an old porter skill saw that i have used instead of a table saw for two reasons. First i don’t have a shop so i can’t set up the table the way it needs to be set. Second i trust my self to make those straight cuts. Learning how to do project with basic tools builds a foundation for a master craftsman.
Great info and love your 'Chosen' shirt!
Great video Matt!!! Good advice and content. 👊🏻👊🏻
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After a bunch of research AND before I saw this video, I just purchased a CMT blade for my Saw Stop Job Site Pro. It's night night and day compared to the stock Sawstop blade!!! It was nice t see that you recommended them as well!
Thanks for the video. I got a good start on these tools. Right now I’m debating whether to get a planer or band saw next.
Band saw!
@@tammybledsoe3718 thanks! I’m so torn! I’m leaning band saw though.
@@brettfaris9883 I guess it's really according to the type of woodwork you do. I use a lot of rough lumber so I do use the planer for some projects. I do a lot of turning on the lathe. So the bandsaw is important to me. I think the planer is wise if you do a lot of board work.
Skil has a heavy duty contractor table saw with wormdrive. Very reliable and darn accurate. I have had no problems with it.
Yeah, I was drooling over that at lowes just last week.
I didnt have the cash for it, and I got the Craftsman table saw.
Its actually a pretty damned good little table saw.
I'm a DeWalt guy, and I am comparing the Craftsman to a DeWalt table saw.
Hey Matt, I know you also mentioned about getting a Band Saw, I was going back and forth about one and my actual usage of it. I would up going a Sears outlet store that was closing their doors and and got a Rikon 14" band saw that was a floor display(with everything)unit, still new for $400 and some change. Excellent piece of equipment (especially after I put my Alex Snodgrass adjustments). Shop around for some good deals.
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I had a Rigid job site table but I returned it and bought the Delta 36-725 and I’m very happy with the Delta. If you need portability get a job site saw otherwise the 36-725 or newer version is a superior saw. I also didn’t like the direct drive system on job site saws.
You mentioned WEN products, I have a WEN band saw, belt/disc sander and oscillating spindle sander and I think they are very good tools. WEN tools are underrated imho.
I use hand planes which I have a lot of experience with and I’m able to get the results needed to square hardwood or softwood for my projects. I buy from a locale lumber yard and some local harvested kiln dried 4 quarter and larger but power planes or jointers aren’t on my list. They can make short work of cleaning up a board but the noise, wood chips & dust is a big factor in not having them.
Good video Matt. Don't forget for those on a budget to hit the used market. I bought a Ridgid TS 3650 for $350 about 10 year ago and it's still going strong.
They hold there value. Tuned properly I can get glue line rips with a standard ripping blade. The edge literally looks like someone took a plane to it. It’s a great saw to this day for what you pay for them.
I like this channel!
I have a kobalt contractors saw. I love it! Very solid work horse, worth the money
One of the big differences in the higher end tools is just pure power, not just larger size. Quality of cuts and milling decreases if you push a tool beyond it's capacities, which isn't hard if you're talking about 15-18A 120V tools. Smaller platforms and motor sizes substantially decrease what you can do effectively, but can still be perfectly suitable for a lot of people.
Looking back, at when the stimulus checks were being issued, and I received mine.
I sat down and planned out what to buy.
I bought a few things first that I actually wish I would have waited and got later on.
I got a DeWalt combo kit, and some hand tools.
Yes a great investment towards wood working, but I wish I would have gotten a table saw, planer, and jointer first.....then the combo set....
I have a Craftsman table saw now ( after a bad purchase from Harbor Freight, that I took back)...
The "should of, would of and could of's" sort of beat me up, but, I've learned to lighten up on myself a bit here lately.
Just lessons in life that hopefully I can pass on to others as in what not to do. Well, depending on what sort of direction you want to go in with wood working.
I guess I was stuck in my "construction work" frame of mind as to why I did what I did.
Thinking I could do some side work to make money to buy everything else I needed for wood working projects....
Thanks for sharing your experiences with all.
I just know that wood working and construction work are two totally different types of work.
P.S. if any one has made it this far with reading my "book" I wrote here...
If you are on a budget, and need an awesome table saw, the new Craftsman table saw that's just come out, its awesome for the price.
The fence is straight ( and the latch that locks it in place is rock solid), the table itself is straight, and the stand is decent.
Over all on a scale of 1 to 10....I give it a 5.5.
Another silly person who spent the stimulus, the government loves people like you, invest it! My first $1200 stimulus has returned me $3600 in the 1st year, took that along with the other stimulus checks and bought and already sold a piece of land, in all, the stimulus checks helped our family make $27,000. Just gotta be patient
@@betterthanideserve76 wow, that's awesome sounds great. Good for you!!!
Glad to hear you invested your stimulus money wisely.
So, I'm silly for spending the stimulus money on tools to get my own business going???
So I'm silly for creating a future for myself and a legacy to pass on to my older boys??
So I'm silly for turning my life around with the stimulus money.
Ok, good to know.
This is the first time on this channel that someone has been rude, and out right offensive.
Yes, it is a social media site and there is trash everywhere I'm sad to say.
I know its probably a long shot for some starting woodworkers, I have only started couple of years ago and I would definitely recommend or even look into projects that requires Router table setup, its absolut game-changer custom handles for drawers even to make nice edge or unique edge on some of your projects
I have the Dewalt 7485 right now but the one thing I hate .... hate ... is the blade is too close to the front of the saw! It doesn't have the room to line up with the fence. I have had it for a few years and it's time to upgrade. I am in a two car garage and the larger saws like the Harvey and others is just too big.
Do you have the newest model of the Delta table saw? Are you happy with the features? I am binge watching all the videos you have and find them to be great and they caver the stuff no one talks about!
Keep up the great work!
Great video! Great tips. Thanks for the intel!
I have the Delta Cruzer and it is a great saw. It is heavy if you are taking it to a jobsite, but I would imaging that if you are going for a saw with zero clearance behind the saw you are using it as a stationary unit in a shop. It also has the lights that cast a shadow line rather than the laser, which is very nice as well. It was a big upgrade from the Chicago Electric.
I bought the Wen jointer and it's actually really good. So if your short on cash you might want to try the Wen, I also bought the Dewalt DW735x first but had touble leveling boards even with the sled.
Whichever order works when you can find the best deal on Craigslist marketplace and so on. Just got a new to me $600 dust collector looks like brand new for $100 time to buy and runs like new.
While I agree with pretty much everything you said, I have to disagree about the miter saw, especially as a "first tool to buy". Having said that, it really depends on what you're going to make. If you've always got a lot of long boards to cut, it makes sense to get a miter saw.
My brother-in-law gave me his old Craftsman table saw and miter saw about 10 years ago. I have since replaced the table saw (with a Ridgid, which hasn't given me any problems but the Delta is a fine machine as well) but I still have the miter saw. I can't remember when the last time it was that I used it. Since getting the table saw, I've made a few sleds and I get everything done on the table saw. But again, that's me. Everyone is going to be different.
Great video though. Lots of good information for anyone out there. Keep up the good work.
Nice stuff (info) sir. Thank you for the input, this really helps. Chet
I have the hoodie version of that shirt.
The wen 9 inch bandsaw fence is extremely hard to get square so if you are going to get one and need a good fence you probably shouldn't go with it.
Why separated jointer and planer? Soon or later you will have both of them, why not a combined machine? It's quite common here both industrial both pro-hobby, both hobby category.
I think I told you I inherited a garage full of tools. I have a Rigid contractors table saw that actually was a gift to me from my boyfriend but I am afraid to use it. It sat in a box for 3 years. It’s finally out together and am looking forward to making the sled of yours. I am wondering your thoughts of a radial arm saw. That is one of the tools I inherited. It’s vintage and needs some cleaning up but I have heard horror stories as well, more than the table saw. I also have two band saws I need to figure out. I have such a small garage and also have to house my car. Makes it impossible to work in. Thanks for your videos! They are great!
You’ve been such an inspiration to me! I hope one day you do a video on how you use your jointer and planer combo. I could use the tips. Many blessings to you and your family!
Excellent advice Matt! Really love your videos. I have the delta contractor table saw and it does an awesome job for me.
Great to hear!
I hate Mitre saws because nearly every one I have used has been out of alignment - the fence twisted/warped or off, base plate that is not even across the rotating base and side tables etc.
All required sanding of the table area, fence etc to calibrate. Also shims or adjustment to guages to make them accurate.
Are new Mitre saws actually accurate?
Good video my dewalts are not that accurate. Kind of frustrating but I’ve put up with them for awhile. Just recently traded out for another brand. But for capacity, the dewalt is king.
Awesome channel!
You should totally go and get the Harbor Freight collector and do all the modifications -- would be a great video and protect your lungs. Being able to do a video of installing whole shop dust collection would be a great feature series..... my 0.02c
Great video. I guess the dust collection or lack thereof of the Delta Cruzer finally got to you & you decided to replace it with the Dewalt.
Naw. I knew someone who needed a saw. I wanted to give them the newer of the two saws.
@@731Woodworks Love it! Giving back is what it’s all about in my opinion. Have an abundantly blessed rest of your evening.
Great video. I have the same drill press and would like to ask where you got the table from? I also was going for the DW 735 but got the WEN helical planer instead.
Was wondering this as well. After some searching, it looks looks like a WEN DPA2412T 24 in. x 12 in. Drill Press Table with Adjustable Fence
I Love the T shirt!
It's good to see someone use their gifts and talents for the Lord.
Great video!
Love the shirt
Another great video Matt, thank you for your hard work on these. Another video idea, maybe you could do a video about differences with these new CMT blades and picking the correct one for the correct use etc. etc. Just an idea, you don't have to. Just wanted to help contribute to the channel. :D Thanks again!
Great suggestion!
@@731Woodworks I have being following your planer videos now for a while and decided to pull the trigger on the DeWalt because of it robustness and it was on a super sale.
I want to eliminate snipe 100% form this machine and drop in a decent helical cutter. What do you recommend?
I felt targeted by the thumbnail I have both those exact items lol. Love both and glad I didn't find out I did something wrong.
If I’m not mistaken, I’ve seen you with about 3 separate miter saws, one of which was a Delta. Am I wrong? I had a large Ridgid sliding miter saw, but had to keep it so far away from the wall, it didn’t work for my shop space, and I didn’t want to drop $600+ for the Bosch sliding miter saw which has a unique sliding mechanism so you can put the saw up against the wall. I ended up buying the Dewalt 12” non sliding miter saw which has been great! I agree with you, buy the planner before the jointer. I have a nice Dewalt planner, but I’d like to get the model you have. They are the best non pro planners on the market imho! Good video…thanks for sharing.
Yeah you are wrong. I've had the DeWalt and the Delta. I recently gave the Delta away to someone in need.
I do not have a drill press or planer yet, but I am after a band saw, yet I have a lathe, lol 😆
Love your tee shirt. So cool to represent for “The Chosen”. Makes me want to watch, subscribe and share. 👍🏻👍🏻
Love my skil job site 10” table saw. Came square out of the box but more importantly you can adjust the fence, and blade if it ever gets out. It rips through everything I’ve thrown at it no problem. I think it gets overlooked as it’s skil. Rack and pinion fence adjustment too. Yes there is plastic on this saw but there is on the Milwaukee and freaky too. I think vcg construction reviewed it a little while ago. But for the 299 I paid I feel like it was bargain I think they have gone up a bit since then
Wait just trying to confirm the order you recommend. Buy the mitre before the table saw ?
2:47 Yeah... I am thinking about to get a Table Saw. For that I thought about that Rigid which is sold for $530usd at the HomeDepot around here. However for some reason when looking at the Fence System it has I feel like there could be better. The Rigid has a weird grove the Fence rides in, which looks like it could get full of wood dust and that would then annoy. I also read allot that the Rigid has allot problems, especially with the Fence. About that Delta the one complaint I hear is.... dust collection. Seemingly everyone likes the Fence System, motor and what not at it.
The worst thing at the new Rigid is that the small Fence attachment flips over underneath the Fence... the same thing for the Delta flips over the Fence... it looks nearly like the small Fence attachment the DeWalt 10" Contractor Saw has.
And yeah... you are so right about it having to be... square... Square... SQUARE. There is literally NOTHING... in woodworking more annoying then cutting something and it isn't square because the tool is trash.
Hey 731! Hope you're good. Your video was really informative so thanks for sharing your wisdom. I'm thinking of getting a table saw and it was useful to hear your thoughts as a more experienced woodworker.
A bit of a silly question - do table saws and mitre saws use the same types of blades on the machine? (I assume it depends on the size of the blade the machine can handle too)
Keep making your content and love from the UK 👊🏽
A lot of miter saws use 12" blades, although the can use 10" ones. Table saws usually. use a 10" blade
10" blades are standard on all but the largest table saws. The tooth count and configurations are gonna vary depending on what you're doing. Less teeth,say 24 are better for RIP cuts,especially in thicker or dense wood. More teeth,say 60 are good for crisp crosscuts. Some blades for plywood or paneling have upwards of 100 teeth. If you're new to tablesaws I'd suggest a good combination blade that usually has about 40-50 teeth on it. Itll RIP and crosscut pretty well,but if you're gonna be ripping alot of 2x material or hardwoods over an inch thick,also consider a dedicated ripping blade of 18-24 teeth. Most blades will be atb blades( alternating tooth bevel) which is a good all around blade,but if you cut tenons,lap joints,or the like it doesnt leave a flat surface. Itll leave little ridges all over the surface of the cut. To prevent this you can use either a dado stack or a single blade that has a flat top grind,such as the diablo glue line rip blade. Not all saws can use a dado stack,so that's something to consider too. Dado blades are fully adjustable from 1/4" to 13/16 and are for cutting grooves,dados,rabbets,lap joints,tenons,and the like. It's a very handy feature that you'll learn to love as you progress. Miter saws only crosscut,so an atb 60 or 80 tooth blade is all they need.
@@ciphercode2298 that's a lot of good information, I was wondering about tooth count myself, thanks!
@@Adiera You're very welcome, have a great weekend 👍
Your comment made me laugh! "If you have a table saw, get a planer. If you don't, then get a jointer"... no, if you don't have a table saw, get one! 🤣🤣🤣
My mom just bought me a Dewalt 739x for my birthday day, I so can wait to use it. Happy Happy Happy! Matt I also went and bought everything Diablo bc you said what you thought were the best. You went and changed on me, are the CMT's that good or is it a promotional thing? Thanks Matt!
I bought a CMT blade for my miter saw after seeing Jonathan Katz-Moses using them. Thought I would give them a try and really liked them a lot so I switched to them. Diablo still a good blade too.
Good momma.
Another great video Matt. How do you like the Delta mitre saw more that you have had it for a bit. I'm thinking of getting that one for my shop once it's complete
It would be hard to choose between the two. They are both great saws. The Delta has the advantage of space savings
Dewalt 7491 XE is sucks... the fence is not square to the table top (you have to put shims to sq it), the table top is not flat (1.5mm out this corner etc), table top swell (bugle) a few areas, saw blade abur is not flat, the blade wobble. aus $1200 !.
Agree about the CMT blades.
Also, like your shirt!
Oh I do have an unrelated question. I have some projects calling for 8/4 stock. Not sure my 1965 Craftsman is up to the task. Interested in your thoughts as to minimum needs in a tablesaw for ripping walnut and maple of this size?
Thx.