2016 Nissan Titan XD Diesel Real World Highway & Towing MPG Review
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- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) The 2016 Nissan Titan XD Diesel is a towing machine. In this TFLtruck video MPG test. We drive the 2016 Nissan Titan XD on a cold Colorado day on TFL's 100 mile test loop to find out the Highway MPG and the Highway Towing MPG of the new truck in real world testing.
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So many haters out.....that's why there's options out there. Go buy the truck/car/SUV u want. This is just a insightful MPG review on a truck that ppl may be interested in purchasing.
+P Pha I agree. People complaining about the price never intended on purchasing the vehicle anyway. Also so many people are closed minded. I believe Nissan completely nailed the mark of what they were trying to achieve. Can an F150 tow 11,500 lbs? Sure but how well does it do it in all areas. How will the Ecoboost stay together after towing years like this? Just like anything else there are many questions which people are asking for a new platform but to say it is a piece of junk would be premature. The engine, transmission, frame, brakes are all designed with the torque of a diesel in mind. So in theory it should stay together well. If it is built anything like a the rest of Nissan trucks then it will be rock solid. These same people complaining are probably the ones when the Ecoboost pulls state that it is a piece. All manufacturers have issues- GM has issues with the displacement on demand wiping the lifters out, camshaft and wasting the bottom end of the engines-just recently MT had reported several technology issues with the GMC had to go back to the dealer several times. Ford has issues with Ecoboost ejecting rods out of the side of the engine-who really runs 87 octane in boosted truck? If you can't afford to put fuel in it then you can afford the vehicle. Ram is plagued with quality issues. Old Titan & Toyota has bad fuel Economy, the list goes on. I work in the automotive industry and I deal with these closed minded individuals everyday. Statements of I am going to buy a Chevy because it is the best. What? On what basis? The interior will fall apart after 100K, the buttons won't be able to be read at that time either due to them being worn off and also what about that LS tick? If that is what you like then who am I to say it is junky? I just won't buy that brand. I will vote with my wallet. I am willing to give this truck a chance in the future. The pricing is on par with all the other 1/2 ton trucks . Heck an Ecoboost FX4 in my area had a window sticker of $62K. Now down to reality they probably wasn't going to get it but still! $60K for a fully loaded Titan is definitely competitive. I am aware you can purchase a 3/4 ton for around mid 50's but some people aren't ready to make that jump. I am not so that is the reason for my consideration. Will this recipe fit others? They are the only ones who can answer that.
I liked this video, not because of the truck, but because you guys gave a great review. This was the first towing review that I've seen of the new Titan without Nissan reps present. I can really say that "I saw it first on the Fast lane Truck". Keep up the good work!
All you people worrying about gas mileage if you can't afford to fill the damn tank you shouldn't be driving a truck period. Why don't you wait and see how it handles heavy loads.
I'm sorry, I don't own a truck or a trailer but I really don't understand what all the fuss is about over mpg?
Lets say you're going on a 500 mile journey, towing your boat or horse trailer or whatever. At 11 mpg you'll need 45 gallons to complete your journey, at 17 mpg you'll need 29 gallons. Thats a 16 gallon difference. At an average diesel fuel cost of $2 in the US, that'll cost you $38.
You have a $50,000 truck, a $5,000 trailer, and a $30,000+ boat, and you're complaining about $40 bucks of fuel?
60,000$ truck with a diesel that is expected to far surpass gasoline mpg....however it doesnt. so yeah we can nitpick. when gas goes back up we will be fucked.
+Jimmy Cundiff Again you're ignoring my initial statement. I have a friend who bought a $150,000 wake surfing boat. If he complains to me about mpg I will slap him in the face. He pays $200 to fill up the tank in his boat... so he can go surfing on a lake...
If you have enough money to buy a toy or a huge 12,000 pound mobile home, you shouldnt be complaining over 30 dollars.
You don't buy a diesel truck for the mpg, you buy it for its low end torque. And nothing from Ford has 550 lb ft of torque unless you buy a super duty with the 6.7 liter V8 that has over 800. But that thing gets 15 mpg when its not towing.. So it doesnt seem like the Nissan is as bad as everyone says it is.
+888TopGear888 I don't get how you can just throw MPG out of the window. it is a big decision maker in people buying these trucks. I have a $50k 2014 silverado, I tow my expensive ass motor cycles to the drag strip all the time and sometimes boats. do I care about MPG yep. just because your friend doesnt, doesn't mean other people dont. Every truck (besides Tundra) built today is built around getting good fuel mileage.
Chevys displacement on demand. Dodges eco-diesel and their hemis displacement on demand. Fords ecoboost engines. and now Nissan built this truck "to have great fuel economy while towing" Those are words from Toyota marketing manager.
+Zachary Strain lead the pack in maybe performance but MPG was always terrible on the tundras. 4.30 gear, that's why. in 2007 Dodge and Chevrolet both had displacement on demand.
+Zachary Strain I never said mpg isn't at all important. Im saying that its moronic to judge trucks based of a bunch of numbers (highest torque/hp and best mpg)
There is no point in watching a 15 minute video from a so-called "dedicated truck review channel" just to see what a truck's mpg is. Especially when at the end of the day, the difference is only 30-50 bucks on a 500 mile journey.
If I were going to buy a truck, I'd care more about its performance, rather than its mpg. Things like:
Which truck is the most confidence inspiring and stable when I'm towing 12,000 pounds and doing 70 mph? Which is the most nervous?
Which has the best maneuverability and handling at high speed while towing a trailer (collision avoidance)?
Which is the easiest to drive on a tight, uphill mountain road while towing a motor home?
Which has the best traction control system and all wheel drive system? Which is the most capable offroad or in the snow while towing (towing snowmobiles)?
I think the reason +The Fast Lane Truck isn't conducting these tests is because mpg is the easiest one.
Truck was getting 19 mpg then to 14 mpg. It went thru a exhaust regen. In other words it dumps fuel in the exhaust to heat it up for the DPF cleaning. This only happens a few times every 1000 miles. But you do lose fuel economy for about 20 miles.
Make a video comparing all the trucks, f-150, gm twins, tundra, ram, and Titan. Make it long , I don't care, I wanna see like stats side by side, compare the competitive equivalent trucks of the brands and show us what truck gives us the most bang for our buck.
Bought a 2017 5 liter Cummins Turbo 4×4 extra cab all leather with all the tech, whistles and bells 3 weeks ago. The truck feels like a 20 year relationship. Weather Tech on the way and front seat covers is on the list.
I really hope you put 12,000 lbs behind it going up the IKE Gauntlet. Its time for Nissan to put up or shut up. You guys are being to easy on these trucks. You need to really max them out.
I'd love to see what economy it would get if someone removed all the emissions bullshit from the engine and re-tuned it. I reckon it could do 5 - 8 mpg better.
I doubt it. I only picked up a couple on my 6.7PSD and my hp/tq to weight ratio is way better than the xd. It has a 3.92 rear gear, because they realized it's underpowered. Not much is going to help that truck.
+Andrew Nicholas
Hydrocarbons and NOX
Hydrocarbons = Unburned fuel (black smoke)
^ Typically a timing issue and/or injector issue
NOX = Gas created during combustion event
^ Issue is emissions and is reduced significantly through diesel exhaust after treatment systems such as SCR or the One-box system.
In any instance however, they didn't have pulse width modulation fuel injection years ago. The advancement od electronically-controlled injection aided to better performance, a more efficient burn during the combustion event, AND better emissions.
On newer diesel engines, adding horsepower is as simple as connecting to the ECM and changing it.
***Note: Diesel engine manufacturers regulate engine horsepower based on the criteria of application. This is done to reduce damage to the drivetrain and chassis frame (specifically on HD trucks).
When it comes down to fuel efficiency however, it boils down to power to weight to axle ratio.
+Andrew Nicholas I have a degree in, and work in the field of diesel technologies.
+Andrew Nicholas Sorry, I actually didn't read all of your posts. my comments were generalistic in nature and weren't aimed specifically at you rather, for the whole of the discussion. I apologize if you felt I was attacking you personally or thought I was intending to denigrate your intelligence. Not my intentions.
+Andrew Nicholas what's "TFL"?
list price for an XD with proper towing options is about $50-55k. not worth the price, when a similar optioned 3/4T lists for only 6% more, and gives more of everything for same mpg. Nissan needs to drop the price by $10-12k.
Not with the same features & ride quality.
+Rob Grune update. the new Ford F150 3.5L eco can be configured for 12k towing and greater payload than this XD, with very adequate HP and Torque, with equal or better mpg, no-rust body, etc, for about $10k less overall.
I like the Titan XD but I couldn't ever buy one. Less payload ratings than a F150, pretty crazy for a "5/8" diesel pickup. Capabilities less than a modern F150 1/2 ton, the weight of a super duty but with worse fuel economy. The Titan XD just doesn't make any sense.
You nailed it
You say 5/8th? I say 15.8mm. Considering the metric table and all. lol
+Callsign Vega Lol. "5/8" pickup. I like it!
Despite Nissan's advertisement garbage, legally, it's a 3/4 ton truck because of its class 2b rating (>= 8,500 GVWR) and lack of EPA MPG numbers.
You nailed it on the head! Now that the 2016 F -150 is out and can tow 12,000+ this truck makes no sense. Nissan saying they were "splitting the truck segments" is not the case. They just finally made a truck that is close to where half tons are now mot 10 years ago.
686raptor06 Nissan started on this truck back in 08. This is why your comment makes complete sense. They are being outdone already
Smh, all these comments about how inefficient this truck is. It was 13,250 lbs and returned 11 mpg. That's damn good! The 6.2 chevy was 12,000 lbs and got 10.5 mpg on premium gas. This is the most efficient "1/2 ton" truck period!
Very unimpressive. I think the last Ram 2500 diesel they tested got over 20mpg on the same test loop when empty and it has 800ftlbs of torque. I think it was a 2wd but still it wouldn't drop the fuel mileage that much if it was a 4x4. The Titan is too heavy and underpowered. It would make much more sense to buy a real HD truck or any other half ton for that matter.
Its also around 65000 msrp.
I am glad that you showed us what kind of mileage the truck gets while not towing. Thank you. I wish you guys had done that with the 2016 Tacoma. The mileage while not towing was pretty bad, at least in my opinion. I would think that you could have done better (as far as MPG's) with a RAM 2500 with the Cummins diesel. And it would probably cost less. Great job.
The looks of the truck are growing on me. Good work guys, and Happy New Year.
TFL needs to redo this test when the pumps are no longer selling winter diesel blend so that we can see fuel economy on 100% diesel. it should theoretically increase on summer diesel
This is the exact same fuel mileage on the titan shown here as my internal testing with all the new diesel trucks, except my ecodiesel, so this truck is right in line with all the heavy duty diesels.
The 2015 cummins big horn got 11.5mpg average with my 7000lb trailer,
The 2015 duramax ls 11.5mpg same 7000lb trailer
2014 ram ecodiesel 17mpg same 7000lb trailer $ 160,000 miles averaged
Fuck ford.
2015 5.7l hemi 13mpg same 7000lb trailer
2015 5.3l gm ls direct injected gas 11.5mpg average same 7000lb trailer
These are all the vehicles i rented for the two months my truck was down, so i calculated all the fuel mileages every night.
The cummins and duramax tests were also done by two other route drivers renting those same 2015 models, @ 60mph so they were the same as my tests.
Nice job nissan, truck looks nice.
+mopar ecodiesel (dotcom) Sounds like you got your truck back on the road. I follow you on your channel. So, how much did the bullet proofing cost you? So when the day is done do you think you have saved any money in the long haul by going with the diesel? Do you think the repairs and extra cost are justified by the gas savings?
+MrIbernie $1800. yes by far this truck is cheaper than the duramax or cummins in both repairs and fuel. i dont regret it
I wonder how this compares to every other Truck, year, model, and engine package ever made ...........OH WAIT....COMMENTS!!!
an early 1990s 7.3 ford f250 gets better fuel mileage than this thing, and its cheaper, easier to fix and its nicer looking, may as well get the older truck, heck i have seen a cummins get 28-30 mpg if you drive it right
This truck is so nice
my 08 crew cab 4x4 duramax with larger mud tires does 20mpg on the hwy. emissions have ruined diesels (mine are removed)
+Brandon A friend's Ram 2500 Cummins was struggling to get 16 mpg on the highway. He pulled the emissions equipment out of it. Now he is getting 20-22 mpg. I'm not entirely convinced that burning half again as much fuel really saves any emissions.
What emissions items are their other than DEF systems. Cats?
1guyin10 you are correct in assuming this and a basic knowledge of chemistry destroys most arguments for having emissions equipment, at least in the context that its for climate change prevention. Any amount of fuel burnt creates a certain amount of co2, burning less creates less. So emissions regulations are "sold" to us or justified because the fear of global warming but they are intended to do other things. Visible emissions (black smoke) which are also part of HC (unburned hydrocarbons), NOx are the things that all the emissions equipment are meant to deal with however co2 and h20 emissions increase with decreased fuel economy. co2 and h20 is where any possibility of global warming or climate change comes from, which I am not totally sold on (quite the opposite actually) considering they are obviously being very misleading toward this entire thing anyways.
Frank Magana The high pressure common rail system in and of itself is an emission control device. I like many aspects of high pressure common rail but It would be very sweet to have mechanical options out there still. Take for instance a fully deleted 6.7 cummins and get a mpg figure then convert it over to a mechanical injection setup, you would not expect to see much change mpg wise. It could go up or down but it would most likely go up some. There would be more black smoke vs the deleted common rail setup too which is unburned fuel. So how is it not burning some of the fuel but getting better fuel economy? The high pressure common rail pump is a huge parasite. 26,000 psi of fuel pressure takes allot of engine work to accomplish. So although you are able to burn more of the fuel due to the higher pressure it reclaims that energy in order to make that pressure that it requires to operate. This creates more co2 and h20 (yes water) vs the old style system.
They also have an egr system, which I am all for on a gas engine with a throttle plate because it actually reduces the pumping losses on those engines and gains it economy. An egr system is like a cancer to a diesel. Soot it trapped and released in places meant for nothing but clean air and air flow. The coolers are often problematic and the only real reason for them on a diesel is to reduce the NOx (which I agree NOx is bad) that was caused by other modern diesel emissions.
Yes there is a cat, a diesel oxidation catalyst or usually referred to as a DOC. It works similarly to that on a gas car. Since CO is not a gas produced with diesels usually it is not needed for that function. They are not especially usefull at converting NOx either. The do take some of the unburned hc (raw fuel that didnt begin to burn and turn to black smoke) and burn it but that is usually a very low quantity and its easy to argue that its best to just leave that unburned.
They also have diesel particulate filters (DPF) which trapps the black smoke which is actually soot. It is fuel that started to burn but then flamed out. It is said to cause cancer, and I agree that nothing but pure clean air is all our lungs are designed to handle, however there is actually NO science showing that diesel particulate causes cancer. The studies that have been performed show that in industrialized areas have a higher rate of the residents having cancer. The cause could be many things but in the studies they used the correlation equals causation method (which is almost always inaccurate) and decided to blame the fact that there are allot of diesel vehicles in those industrialized areas. Case closed since all they have to do is repeat it enough and make new laws (I mean regulations) that no one gets to vote on anyways. Once the DPF traps the soot and gets full, raw fuel is shot into the exhaust stream and other engine conditions are met allowing that fuel to ignite and the soot in the dpf is burned off. The raw fuel turns to co2 and h20 and the soot is mostly carbon as the hydrogen has burned off first. So mostly a bunch of co2 that never needed to be created is during that process. Also fuel that does not go to propelling the vehicle is being used.
Now due to all the heat that is created by the backpressure of these emissions systems more nox than ever is being produced so they had to come up with something for that since nox is arguable the only thing to even be concerned with as far as diesel emissions go. So they have Diesel exhaust fluid or def or blue or whatever names it goes by. I am not against the use of this stuff. It isnt cheap but you dont use much so it is still economic. It really dont impact your fuel mileage because it is ran by electronics (which yes is driven off your engine) and is very low draw. It sprays to your exhaust stream and the ammonia that is released is able to react with nox and convert it to other non harmful combinations.
If we could just have old style mechanical injection with water injection/water meth injection, along with vgt turbos or compound turbo setups and possibly even DEF injection in the exhaust we would have the cleanest, most fuel efficient and possibly even the most reliable engines (diesel or otherwise) that this world has ever seen.
Sorry for being so long winded. I am passionate about this. I tune engines as a hobby now, used to be for a living, and seeing that all this shit is just a burden to us that actually creates a worse problem that it is tasked to solve in order to line the pockets of some leaves a horrid taste in my mouth.
+Frank Magana Brandon is right, egr and dpf are the big killers
Neither the capability of a true HD truck and nor the fuel economy of even the worst half tonnes these days... not sure what market gap this one is filling especially when you factor in price..
Terrible mpg for a diesel. Might as well just save money and get the gas engine. Back to the drawing board Nissan.
*cummins*
+Dave yea 16mpg, my full size gas silverado 5.3 gets that. that is avg it says which does include city/highway so hard to say what would get on highway run. probably 18-20
+arbiter1 this was the highway test with as little city driving as possible. i have a feeling that the cold weather diesel that is provided up north this time of year has something to do with these figures. i can tell if i get a batch of cold weather diesel which burns hotter in my car just buy watching the fuel gauge. good thing is that in louisiana we dont get much winter blend diesel
+Dave that gas engine is going to be doing a hell of a lot of work lugging around that 7200 pound truck.
Id be interested to see the numbers at lower elevation during warm weather to see how that compares since naturally cold weather and gas blends significantly affect fuel economy.
I wonder if the truck went through a light regen. If it's anything like my ram, it won't tell you it's doing it, you'll just get a little less milage for a bit. Great review TFL!
What a waste... No reason purchase this for any reason other than you want a Nissan.. Same mpgs as a 3/4-1ton series trucks and less capable
It would be great having a job like this!
I would love to have this job even if the money wasn't that much
Great real world info guys , you are my number 1 source for unbiased fair comparisons and useful info , thanx for putting forth the effort to do the job right :)
Always less MPG about 20% when is 20*F
Nissan blew it, the MPGs are horrible! A 2500 Cummings RAM does better. Ouch!
+Mark Carruthers ive been saying for a while now it should be exactly the same as the 2500 which is bigger but a six cylinder
+phil tripe pretty sure only 1500 has ecodiesel
+Torrey B The 2500 has a 6 cyl. I don't think either of us were talking ECO Diesel.
+phil tripe Well, Inline 6. Bit of a difference, but yea.
kind of low for a diesel. Although I'd like to see another test in warmer weather and in the standard non Pro 4x trim.
Like all diesels, it's mpg will get better and better as the engine racks on miles.
The year is 2023 I have a 2016 titan have had for a year now when I brought it I got 9mpg to 10mpg streets and 12mpg to 15mpg also using fuel additive but how it sounded was sad and boring lol and had lots of issues with the DPF and lots of issues but after running with no DPF and adding some upgrades I get 16mpg to 18mpg on streets and 22mpg to 30mpg on highway
My 1997 Suburban 1500 4wd with a 5.7 get's 12mpg towing 6000lbs on roads that aren't flat.
A very good video, good job. I enjoy it a lot.
WOW.That's SUPER POOR for a 5.0L Diesel ON the highway. 😳
You never said how much weight was in the trailer?
5600 pounds
+The Fast Lane Truck I was expecting much Better MPG from a diesel truck like this. On Fulley, people are reporting 16-17mpg average (mix) with the Cummins 6.7L, which makes more power, tows more, higher payload, similar in size. You guys got 16.7mpg doing hwy only. Why would someone buy this when a 250/2500 series truck offers the same MPG, with more power and capability.
Only thing I can think of is Price, not sure what the others would cost compared to this.
+The Fast Lane Truck So it gets 1mpg better then a 6.2 liter gas silverado? that is it? Power wise the 2 are not far off least on torque side.
+xXBurntBaconXx And the Titan XD isn't cheap, especially for a fucking nissan, almost $50k for a decent one
I was watching the same tow test they did with the 6.2L Silverado. Fully loaded it was also 50k. That got 10.1 MPG towing the same trailer on the same course. But the Silverado is going to be cheaper to run as its a gas motor, smaller so its easier to maneuver, it will probably hold its value a bit better. I'm pretty sure a Silverado with the 5.3L V8 would get the same MPG as the Titan towing the same load. If I was going to tow 12,000lbs daily, then I would go with a 2500 series truck with a diesel. If I'm going to tow 12,000 lbs once in awhile, then I would go with a regular 1/2 ton and save some money.
The engine sounds pretty awesome on paper though, would be great to swap into Jeeps and off road vehicles. Or hell would be great to have in a Van/Box truck.
that's is really really bad! i was really interested in this truck till this! my 2014 ram mega cab 4x4 Cummins gets about 22 mpg on the freeway at 75mph and 17 around town. this is not me bragging about my truck sense i hate the thing but the wife loves it.
+Jason Finstad I got the same truck, about 11mpg towing 13k pounds. Definitely nothing to brag about...
+Steven P 13k pounds?! 11 mpg is pretty good!
+Jason Finstad I have a 14 powerstroke and I get about the same as you. I haven't put a load on it yet but Im almost positive I would still get better MPG than this with more of a load. On top of all that my truck was only 46k new so I don't know what Nissan is trying to do?
+Dan Witherow yeah those fords are pretty good trucks. they sound the best. i towed 18k behind my truck with 6 people in it and got 9mpg. when i tow my camper 6k i get around 13mpg and that is more of a wind resistance issue.
+Jason Finstad Thats pretty good for that much weight and wind resistance!
2012 f250 diesel
empty ----------------------22mpg
10,500lb 5th wheel -15mpg
and that's with 500 hp/800 torque . 355 gear all stock.
pretty much the same price range as nissan. The Nissan seems to be in the same ranking as the new ecoboost f150 when it comes to towing and fuel economy.
with 11Mpg, you might as well buy a gas engine.
Why does André buy lunch when Nathan wins and Nathan buys coffee when André wins? Just askin'....... 😉
Hi guy's it would be nice that at the end of the video that the MPG results are posted so we can compare and also list the weight thanks.
Great video.
Thanks!
I wonder what mpg gets smaller EcoBoost in F150 and 3.0 diesel in Ram.
That is horrific fuel economy! I really tried to talk myself into buying one. Thank God cooler heads prevailed.
yellow makes more power towing mpg not that great .
+NatureRecycleFlorida yellow????
do you mean e85? or just yellow diesel? this truck was running the typical undyed yellow diesel
+Kyle Vanwinkle
Lamborghini yellow paint .
+Kyle Vanwinkle I won both coffee and lunch
wow. just wow. my old 351w with a 3 speed auto got better than that.
It doesn't seem like this engine is worth the time or money. Shame. When I heard they were coming out with a diesel, I was excited.
I love your videos.... but I'm just not sure how relevant milage tests on $60k pickups are. Unless of course you want to justify your favorite vs your neighbors favorite.
+tarded400 agreed...if you're buy for economy then base model is what you should be buying for
+TheBakeryism Really? Then why buy diesel at all, go get the 450hp gas engines and scream passed everyone, you will be getting 6mpg, but you will be going fast.
+tarded400 some people buy the expensive truck then can't afford to drive it I guess? :P
You know, Nissan can't even build their OWN truck without any Ford features. The curve on the window sill is directly an F-150. Look at the headlights! F-150. Taillights, F-150. Interior, GM. Like I said, Nissan is a bandwagon jumper, and they obviously just plagiarized Ford. Way to go Nissan. Hope you pay for plagarizing.
MPG doesn't seem too great for a diesel and the RPM seems high? My BMW 335i (gasoline engine for those unfamiliar) turns 2,100 rpm at 80mph. MY z06 turns similar RPM...I would have expected 1400 or so rpm from a diesel at 70mph.
I am a truck driver of 35 years!! and as my name says I'm ALL about CAT! POWER!! But I have nuttin agin the red!! cummins!! but as a dam semi!! u can't expect more than 7mpg!! under load!'! but we're talkin about a dam pickup!! here!! and that cummins should get at least!! 19mpg pullin a load!!
Here is what I don't quite get. The diesel Titan XD Pro4X with a 4 door cab and 6.5 foot bed, weighs 7000 pounds, 4x4 w/ off road package,a Cummins 5.0 liter V8 with 310 hp and 555 lb/ft, a 6 speed transmission and 3.90 gears and it gets 17 mpg highway. My dad has a 2005 Dodge Ram 3500 (non-dually) with a 4 door cab and 6.5 foot bed, weighs 7000 pounds 4x4 w/ off road package, the 5.9 liter Cummins I-6 with 325 hp and 610 lb/ft, a 4-speed automatic and 4.10 gears, over 200k miles and it still gets 24 mpg on the highway. WHY? Why does a 10 year old truck with basically the same configuration and more power and fewer mpg saving features get so much better gas mileage? I could see them being a few mpgs difference, but 7mpg, that is almost 30%.
(Edited to add gear ratio on Titan)
2016 Ram Ecodiesel: 5000k. $39,000. Highway mpg: 32. City mpg: 25. Towing 6500ish lbs: hwy/city mpg: 23. Best MPG: 35.4. These numbers are nearly double what we see here... It's no wonder Ram looked elsewhere for this endeavor. Cummins should have stepped up. I don't see the appeal other than the name. Waiting game. Personally I like the way it looks. Pretty heavy though. Definitely not practical for a guy/gal who wants an everyday truck.
Eeeeesh😬. Time to scratch the Nissan off the consideration list! That mileage is horrendous. Ram Ecodiesel did 33 mpg on the hwy test. (Guessing it would be around 15-16 towing the 5600 lb trailer). 6.2 Chevy looks most impressive so far low 20's Hwy, 10 mpg towing and can almost match Nissan in Max towing in a pinch you need to haul a heavier load. I'm sure Nissan doesn't like this video out there before these trucks hit the lot. Very bad publicity. Thanks guys for your videos. Now let's see 2.7 eco boost & Ecodiesel pull that 5,600 lb trailer!
This is not good mileage for a 'heavy 1/2 ton", especially since I consistently get over 19 mpg with a 2006 Chevrolet K3500 dually with Duramax unloaded at 72-75 mph on the highway. I also managed to average 11.5 mpg over a 2100 mile round trip with a gooseneck trailer in tow that grossed out at 21,000 lbs to Boston and 15,100lbs coming back home to Georgia. This was in 12-28 degree weather with winter diesel running just over 70 mph both ways with a trailer that did not have a v-nose like the trailer in this video has. So a truck that is over 1000 lbs lighter, with 1.6 less liters of displacement can't beat a 10 year old truck in fuel mileage or power, 310 hp and 500 ft lbs for the Nissan versus 360 and 650 for the 2006 6.6 Duramax? I'd have to agree with many here on emissions as I believe 2006 was the sweet spot in terms of emissions requirements versus fuel mileage. A diesel 2/3 ton in 2016 with a 5.0 diesel should be getting at least 24 mpg combined. I really wanted Nissan to knock this out of the park, because I no longer need a 1 ton truck and over 20 mpg with the ability to tow over 10k when needed could have provided my ideal truck.
I was really looking forward to this truck but am disappointed with the results. I have a 2006 Ram 2500 2wd Cummins. Driving a 250mi trip from middle CA to southern CA I get 25mpg hwy at 70. When I tow a 10lb fifth wheel from hwy 395 to Las Vegas through Death Valley, I get 12mpg and there are multiple serious grades. Both results are hand calculated just as these guys do. I know my truck is 2wd, but my Dad has an 05' 4wd and his cummins gets 1mpg less than mine. I thought with this truck being "kind of" a 1/2 ton and with less power, it would be better and with the tow rating sufficient for me, possibly the next truck for me. Emissions have killed the diesel. I will keep my 06 until it dies I guess. Long live the +20mpg heavy duty diesels :-(
What a bummer. Our 2013 Silverado 2500 duramax 4x4 will easily get 21 mpg on the interstate at 75-80 mph.
Combine terrible fuel economy with a 26 gallon fuel tank, and 4.5 gallon def tank for $58,000 and I'm out. This truck really answered a question no one asked.
I did a 2008 ford 6.4l, head gaskets, arp studs, egr delete, dpf delete, and a spartan tuner. Slight adjustments to the fuel rails, stock cam and stock block. the truck made 706hp on the wheel dyno, and over 1400tq. customer daily drove and claimed his wife would get 31 U.S mpg and he would get 27. Thats tuning, and emissions B.S gone. We then did find the torque shift did have a weak spot. Input shafts would shatter. 4WD burn outs in a F-350 is pretty fucken fun though!!!
Not terribly impressive. I gotta say wouldn't you as a buyer just be tempted to take a slightly lower trim GMC/Ford/Ram 250/2500? With those trucks you get very similar (possibly better) MPG but you get roughly 250-300 more lb ft of torque. I think Nissan has 2 problems with their truck the first being weight, 7200lbs is a lot of vehicle to move, and second would be the 6 speed tranny, everyone else is moving to more speeds in their transmissions. Maybe 5 years ago this truck would have been impressive but not today.
Thanks guy's, now I know NOT to buy this truck. 58-60K $- WoW, 17MPG empty- my Toyota T100 do 20 empty and is a gas not a diesel , loaded to spec max it goes 16MPG and this Nissan only gets 10-11 MPG and it is a diesel. WTF.-for short. TH
Those numbers for that Cummins seems a little low. My 2007 Silverado 2500hd Duramax has 365hp and 660 ft lbs of torque. Normal driving I average about 17.5-18 mpg and about 10-14 while towing depending on weight.
well, i think buy Deisel is all about a high mileage motor. That said at $60,000.00 lets say you get 300,000 miles out of motor before majior work. ! Thats still .20 cents per mile just for ownership cost, then add fuel !! sorry, just not worth it !!! even if Banks makes a chip for it that gives it another 10 mpg increase, STILL NOT WORTH IT !!
my 2016 titan XD with a Cummings and 2 wheel drive weighs 6700 with a full tank of fuel I put it on a truck stop scale just to see the 4 wheel drive models with in SV or SL or pro 4 x are between 7200 and 7600 LBS this is a heavy half ton its really a 3/4 ton from ford chevy or ram 10 yrs ago
Real word testing needs a bit more running i think to get the best figures i would like to see the DEF ADblue use to along with MPG overall most diesels are 2-3% of MPG for DEF ADblue
That's terrible fuel mileage. My 2015 F250 Superduty XLT 6.2 L gas 385 horsepower 4X4 gets better fuel mileage
Waiting to see how it does on the IKE GAUNTLET
Nissan really dropped the ball with this truck. It weighs more than the F150, can't tow nearly as much or haul and get poor fuel economy compared to their DOHC 5.0 gas engine. It maybe the poor fuel economy could be because the engine is a single overhead cam design rather than the traditional OHV (push rod). I know from experience OHV will get better mpg than SOHC engines in some cases but SOHC will flow air better. It could be they chose a craptastic transmission to put behind it rather than an 8 speed which probably would have helped out.
I think this truck is not good. I have a Excursion V10 6.8 . towing 6,500 pound trailer and 9 people in truck with luggage and 44 gallon gas tank filled i get 10 mpg. I also have a 1986 f150 Inline 6 4.9 with manual transmission towing i get 11 . We should expect more from these new cars
Wow really disappointed with the mpg. Long highway runs I get 21-22 average in my 2016 ram 3500 Cummins and 20 mpg in my 2008 Duramax. I'll stick with the big diesels
To all of you trash talking the mileage of this Titan just be happy you don't own a 4.0L Nissan Frontier. Without a trailer i get 12-13 MPG City and 16 MPG Highway. I've never payed attention to mileage when towing but i don't even want to know what it is.
Your own tests shows the 6.2L Chev gets 1 mpg less than the Titan towing same load, so why spend the extra money for the diesel. My friends 1994 Ford E350 with the 7.3 L powerstroke Diesel gets 14 Mpg all day towing a 30 ft RV.
Terrible mpg, so disapointed. My Ram 2006 Ram 2500 was able to average 20mpg empty and 15 while towing 6000lbs. These new emissions were supposed to be more fuel efficient
I can't hardly wait till the guys at Nissan get their heads out the their $*&#^ and shows us the gas version as well. Terrible promotion for this truck that was supposedly a heavy investment for Nissan. As a younger guy, I'm kind of glad the mpg is down and the truck is coming across as a marketing flop. Maybe when I come into enough money to need a toy hauler I'll be able to scoop a used one up for a steal if the design proves to be reliable.
Is your filming crew's car a Toyota Land Cruiser V8?
BTW, The fuel consumption you're getting seems pretty poor, at least by Euro standards.
I've always been a Nissan fan, but this truck comes short of my expectations. Horrible mpg for a smaller diesel, both with and without the trailer, and no exhaust break. Many things to fix before it is a home run. Disappointed.
8 miles/gallon with towing :-/ not that impressive. But if this truck is very reliable which Nissan usually are, that difference of diesel money will pay for itself in long run specially for everyday towers.
wow my father in law gets 20.1 mpg empty on the highway with his f250 superduty. not impressed with Nissan.
+Inverted Hover Driving in 20 degree temperatures at high elevation in the mountains with snow on the ground like this Titan just did? Ummm, no. It doesnt
+michael efferson umm yes it does, I'm speaking from 1st hand experience.
+michael efferson actually diesels perform better in the cold.
Were the seats comfortable driving the long haul
I’m confused why is I not rated by the EPA? Is it not a 1/2 ton I thought all 1/2 tons were rated by the EPA. With out the EPA rating makes me think it’s more of a med duty truck similar to a 3/4 or 1 ton
The reason this truck cost 60 thousand dollars is because it has 4 doors and all the options Nissan can stack on it, and none of that has anything to do with its trailer towing ability. If they offered a work truck package like GM with only 2 doors and a regular 8 foot bed, and no electrical stuff except radio and lights it would be 20 thousand dollars cheaper and much easier to pay for.
12,000 pounds in my ram 2500 I was getting 11.5
is that good for a 5.7 hemi
Nissan I would of thought would of been smarter.Even though it makes a great towing vehicle,It should still get more.Ram did that right but diesel cost of maintenance over gas.Still gas for the money is more worth it.
wow I like the truck but the gas mileage is no better than my 2008 f250 with the 5.4 gas .with 4:10 gears...that's sad well nissan maybe your new gas engine can do better and I think it might
nissan should reimburse everyone who bought the titan diesel. mpg better on a motor home. really less than 12mpg on highway non-towing.. 6.0 gas better mpg towing bigger loads. do not buy a titan!
In the titan you cant really compare the diesel and gas engines the diesel is a 5 liter Cummins with 555 pound feet of torque so if you compare that to the ram 1500 3.0 diesel it's way stronger
this motor need a compressed natural gas version like the Cummins isx12g and the upcoming 6.7 cng
why not buy a 2500 truck diesel vs this? Similarly priced.
Although it isn't bad for an "extra duty" truck the fuel mileage isn't all that impressive. This is only slightly better than what you would see with HD diesels. A gasoline engine in a similar truck would probably see somewhere in the 12-14 empty highway mpg, so the diesel is better. It is easy to see why RAM chose not to go with this engine. They have the HDs for people that want to tow big loads and could never get appropriate mpg for a daily driver half-ton out of this Cummins. I think the only real question is why Nissan didn't try to beef this truck up a bit more and put more room between it and the half tons as far as towing capability.
16.7 mpg for a half-ton diesel at 70 mph? Very disappointing. My 2001 Ram diesel gets 21 mpg at 75 mph
What can you do/what upgrades can you do to a truck with bad mpg(10-12 mpg)? 2003 Ford Ranger
I have a 2015, 3500 Dodge with four wheel drive that I pull a 3 axle bumper pull trailer with that does better than this thing did.
wow, these was very disappointing mpg results. long awaited arrival, needs a wha-wha-wha sound efffect ending.
Nissan has done it!
also would be nice at the end of video to have a screen showing mpg breakdown.
wow that mpg sucks my dads ram 6.7 cummin gets 23 . my 04 Titan gets 18 highway
58000$? To much for that truck, you can buy ram Laramie diesel or gm duramax for that price
It got the same mpg that a Silverado With a 6.2 V8 got. Tell me again what is the point of this Truck ?
6.2 technically calls for premium gas so diesel is cheaper but mainly it’s the way they tow it just handles it better. it was cold af out that affects Diesel engines significantly on mpg . 6.2 is a bad ass motor though lol
If you want a power wagon but think its too much, well this is your truck... with the pro4x package of course.
Since this truck is in between 1500 and 2500 where will it be placed for the Hitch Award or is this still under discussion?
5600 Lb trailer? Put real trailer behind it - something right at the max ratings and big like a 5th wheel camper - and then show me the numbers on that run.
So not only is it ugly as hell the fuel mileage sucks too. Great job Nissan you have a 50k plus turd.
Probably should of put another gear or two on there. Upped the compression ratio. Cut down on weight. Something.