HEARTHFLAME OGERPON IS THE NEW ZACIAN | POKEMON SCARLET AND VIOLET

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  • @dracomenace
    @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +14

    *Q1 Which is your favorite Ogerpon form?*
    *Q2 Which new DLC pokemon is not OU material?*
    *Q3 Which pokemon should get tail glow?*
    (Team, Discord in description)

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว

      First here ligma balls

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My answers:
      1. Hearthflame
      2. Sinistacha
      3. Sceptile

    • @environmental2117
      @environmental2117 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fire
      Mandibuzz 🗿
      Pult

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Grass
      What
      Munkidori
      Ninetales

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dracomenacewym sinistcha best mon

  • @Kirby90
    @Kirby90 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Gamefreak: Yeah Zacian wasn't a good idea, let's nerf it
    Also Gamefreak: **Creates Zacian 2**

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Better

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Than

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Zacian

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *Creates**

    • @Kirby90
      @Kirby90 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lamia820 sorry I'm not a native English speaker so I can make errors, anyway thx for the correction. 😁

  • @aoming021
    @aoming021 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1:20 at least Infernape has Know Off, the coverage that he alwsys wanted

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I feel, it's too late for that, would have been amazing in gen6

    • @unknown443-dr1qg
      @unknown443-dr1qg ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I too know off

  • @CuddlyTheMadElite
    @CuddlyTheMadElite ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Ogerpon actually gets a x1.2 boost to all its attacks with each mask. This actually means its Atk if effectively 154 and Ogerpon has more firepower than postnerf Zacian.

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Is, that true? That's neat

    • @seongjaeoh8742
      @seongjaeoh8742 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Only stabs. It's like the orbs for the sinnoh box art legendaries

    • @CuddlyTheMadElite
      @CuddlyTheMadElite ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@seongjaeoh8742 Nope it was discovered that it’s all its attacking moves not just STABs. Its on the Mechanic Research thread on Smogon.

    • @StormlordOG
      @StormlordOG ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Hey silly ogre guy, can I pet you-"
      *Demonic Screeching*

    • @Griggs02
      @Griggs02 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CuddlyTheMadElite Does the normal one with the teal mask also get the boost or does he only get it when he has the masks equipped as an item?

  • @lunar9342
    @lunar9342 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    When I figured out how Ogerpon worked , I immediately gave it the hearthflame mask and never looked back. It has the best defensive typing of the four masks paired with Mold Breaker to bypass fire immune mons and Sap Sipper Goodra sets while also getting an attack boost when terastalized, and as a fire type, it's immune to burn.

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's the best offensive mon out of all

    • @byzantine5761
      @byzantine5761 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      OH YEAH actually I’m so foolish for not realizing I could still hit Heatran with Ogerpon, I kept switching out whenever Heatran swapped in. Sure it’s not perfect damage, but still Ogerpon hits hard so that Heatran was way less of a roadblock than I expected

    • @lunar9342
      @lunar9342 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dracomenace I was expecting Terapagos to be the first legendary to usurp Ho-Oh as my favorite, but then Ogerpon came in and obliterated my expectations, lol

    • @herhhetj5372
      @herhhetj5372 ปีที่แล้ว

      What? The rock one has the best defensive typing.

    • @lunar9342
      @lunar9342 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@herhhetj5372 Hearthfire is weak to Flying, Poison, and Rock, while resisting Steel, Fairy Grass and electrical. It's immunity to burn also helps give it an edge since it is a fast physical attacker at heart.
      Cornerstone is weak to Fighting, Steel, Ice, and Bug, while only resisting Normal and electric. It's Rock typing gives it the sandstorm boost, but that kinda defeats the purpose of Sturdy. If you don't need to worry about going down in one hit, then why have sturdy, especially in metagames where ohko moves like fissure are banned?

  • @environmental2117
    @environmental2117 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Why is the cute thing so deadly 😭

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Isn't dragapult also cute and deadly?

    • @environmental2117
      @environmental2117 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@dracomenacei’d say its fanart is cute but in game i prefer cool and deadly

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dracomenacecap

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@lamia820The metagame?

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dracomenacenah

  • @nicolasromani3523
    @nicolasromani3523 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:58 That's so relatable 😤

  • @RafaelVitor-fh3ey
    @RafaelVitor-fh3ey ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It may sound silly,and it probably is,but i used the pure grass form orgepon with defiant+swords dance+weakness policy as a way of possibly getting to plus six in one turn
    (Also with traiblaze and horn leech)

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah that could be good as well

  • @LuisSanchez-qx2qf
    @LuisSanchez-qx2qf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi @Dracomenace. My favorite Ogerpon form is wellspring mask, I played with her in Doubles in Rain team. She knows signature move, Horn Drench, Play Rought and Taunt, 2 members to my team can use Surf to restore HP. Yesterday my opponent miss Fire Pliegue combo thanks for Water Absorb...
    I fell sad, the people only shows Grass or Fire forms. The original because the Tera could overspeed all except Regieleki and other for burn inmunity and attack boost. The worst escenario for me on battle is Ogerpon and Rillaboom with Grassy Glide... Greetings

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will be showcasing all the forms, don't worry

  • @Idktoname
    @Idktoname ปีที่แล้ว +5

    First thing, I prefer the grass water because grass fire gets walled by fire types, also you should showcase Torterra, it got both shell smash and headlong rush in the dlc, I recommend having tera blast of some sort on it tho

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Grass/water gets walled by grass types

    • @environmental2117
      @environmental2117 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Everyone said its the worst one and i agree it has an ass ability considering it already 4x resists that move its a fine mon but the other two are better

    • @Idktoname
      @Idktoname ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dracomenace oh yeah I forgot lol

    • @daniellejackson6543
      @daniellejackson6543 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@environmental2117honestly even the worst form is still going to be in uu at least with a strong stab move and solid stats and moves.

  • @Mr.Boss57
    @Mr.Boss57 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You made me love this cute little thing even more.

  • @bakonandsonicfamily2930
    @bakonandsonicfamily2930 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pokemon trapped us thrice this generation: Grusha, and now Fezandipiti and Ogerpon??? Crazy
    If you know, you know

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You had me at grusha

  • @notshockwavedemon7543
    @notshockwavedemon7543 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fact
    All the Toxic Trio have 88 base HP
    That's what those evil fuckers have in common

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't there a signature move?

    • @notshockwavedemon7543
      @notshockwavedemon7543 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dracomenace Nope they don't have a signature move
      They do have a signature ability called Toxic Chain which is Poison Touch but way stronger as it applies the Toxic poison instead of the normal poison and it doesn't require contact move for proc.

  • @duyminh2803
    @duyminh2803 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    torterra is actually decent now
    samurott still hasnt got shell smash

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Imagine h-samu with shell smash lol

    • @InsaneGarrison25
      @InsaneGarrison25 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dracomenace
      Hisuian - Ubers
      Unovan- UU

  • @orkodork2764
    @orkodork2764 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bro also has good support/pivot moves. Spikes, uturn taunt

  • @natelikes2012
    @natelikes2012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gen 8 C-Zacian: +1 atk just for switching in.
    Gen 9 H-Ogerpon: Needs tera to trigger it

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically, it's gonna get nerfed in gen 10 as no tera

    • @natelikes2012
      @natelikes2012 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dracomenace That I agree :).

  • @soumyaukil9354
    @soumyaukil9354 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This team is amazing, won a lots of games with it, but Cinderace is a huge problem. Do you know how to deal with it?

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, I also realized that, people are spamming boots cinderace as it deal with webs and screens team (which is very common), I would suggest to either replace one of the mons with a mon faster than cinder cand can OHKO it, or you can just not set screens untill you get rid off it

  • @yeseungshin8009
    @yeseungshin8009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:39 timid moth can actually still recieve a spa boost from quark drive, so there's a chance it was a speed tie. probably was modest if it was agility tho

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd say, it's better to run modest for more fire power

  • @seongjaeoh8742
    @seongjaeoh8742 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It sucks that triage doesnt exist in gen 9 so in balanced hackmons bitter blade doesnt work with it. If it did it would be the perfect triage sweeper. You should try tail glow embody aspect teal on manaphy in aaa though, gives choice scarf boost to manaphy for free

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      They should fix that imo

  • @BladeTNT2018
    @BladeTNT2018 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bax will more than likely be broken if it had Technician

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course, that's 100%

  • @rtbrndn
    @rtbrndn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Team suggestion: Rain Team theme around Gorebyss with shell smash tera water

  • @natelikes2012
    @natelikes2012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Imagine if the British doggo and the Spanish/Portuguese/American humanoid mask girl was like a Shadow Rider Calyrex…*

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @natelikes2012
      @natelikes2012 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dracomenaceProbably insta ban LOL if it was like Calyrex LOL.

  • @davidgreen1236
    @davidgreen1236 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why might bax get banned because he gets scaleshot now?

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SD + scaleshot is insane

    • @davidgreen1236
      @davidgreen1236 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh wow i forgot he gets SD

  • @BarbersBorders
    @BarbersBorders ปีที่แล้ว +7

    February is the rarest month to be born in

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cuz less days

    • @environmental2117
      @environmental2117 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dracomenace🤯

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dracomenacemind blowing

    • @notshockwavedemon7543
      @notshockwavedemon7543 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      February 29 is the rarest day to be born in

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@notshockwavedemon7543omg i didn’t knew it, newest fact i have heard 🤯🤯🤯

  • @jinji4609
    @jinji4609 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shell Smash Torterra next pls. I happy for him bc he is my fav grass starter 🥰

  • @gonzacabro1126
    @gonzacabro1126 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:26 Not really like if Scovillain was even close to being good lol

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, that's true lol

    • @gonzacabro1126
      @gonzacabro1126 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dracomenace And yeah, Hearthflame Ogerpon is indeed amazing! Honestly that and it's Teal Mask form are the best ones from my point of view ( although I'll say Hearthflame is a bit better )

  • @maximilianocastro2727
    @maximilianocastro2727 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i always wonder what kind of abilities can we give to ogerpon depending on the mask
    for example for fire mask ogerpon, what abilities we can give more than mold breaker?

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      The rock mask as sturdy, water mask has water absorb, the mono grass one has defiant, if you tera them their abilities change and give different +1 stat boost

    • @maximilianocastro2727
      @maximilianocastro2727 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dracomenace ty :D

  • @radvil
    @radvil ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So thaaats why they nerf zacian

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just to make a mini zacian

  • @charlesn.750
    @charlesn.750 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And cornerstone is the new cottonee.

  • @mininarga
    @mininarga ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man I found you on ladder! No way!

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? That's neat

    • @mininarga
      @mininarga ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dracomenace you sweept me really hard, MiniNargacuga, the guy with the white herb torterra

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mininarga Ah I see, GG man

  • @lamia820
    @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bro try the teal mask form it’s wayyyyyyyyy better with focus sash and sword dance

    • @environmental2117
      @environmental2117 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’d rather use the rock one then since it has sturdy

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@environmental2117the grass one can hold extra item

    • @environmental2117
      @environmental2117 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lamia820yeah but your extra item is sash as you just mentioned

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@environmental2117Joebidenobama moment:

    • @lamia820
      @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@environmental2117i mean it can be anything

  • @TopOfAllWorlds
    @TopOfAllWorlds ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why would you run resto chesto when manaphy has Take Heart, which heals status and boost sp attack and sp defense.

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tail glow gives + 3 spatk, haze users beat take heart set

  • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
    @TwilightChomperEnthusiast ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Teal Mask is gonna be such a problem for the meta, isn’t it?

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's gonna be a great breaker

    • @Dynacrown
      @Dynacrown ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Clefable lost softboiled, gliscor lost defog + roost. But gliscor is pretty much the best hazard setter ingame now bc it got tspikes and spikes

  • @Coconut-kun
    @Coconut-kun ปีที่แล้ว

    i've been offline for 3 days and all these new pokemon are here now. its so overwhelming for me lolol

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      You will get used to them soon

  • @LanAya343
    @LanAya343 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These new Pokémon are stupidly broken

  • @lamia820
    @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Use ribombee sticky webs

  • @lamia820
    @lamia820 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2nd

  • @riovidyatmaka
    @riovidyatmaka ปีที่แล้ว

    I think i miss too much about the DLCs

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      There's just a couple of busted mons only

  • @robbierotten2024
    @robbierotten2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This team feels very weak to hyper offense

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hyper offense are always weak to other hyper offense, it's just that who gets the upper hand as early as possible

  • @duyminh2803
    @duyminh2803 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bax is super op rn

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Fr

    • @Dynacrown
      @Dynacrown ปีที่แล้ว +1

      was so close to centralizing pre-dlc, but now with alolan 9tales its probably gonna get banned

  • @Jackington208
    @Jackington208 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm late :skull:

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Better late than never

  • @rockmetalband
    @rockmetalband ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it will ger banned lol

    • @dracomenace
      @dracomenace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe

    • @Dynacrown
      @Dynacrown ปีที่แล้ว +2

      just heearthflame form i think. if the rest of the forms get banned i'll be surprised