Top 5 Most Accurate Military Surplus Rifles
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I LOVED my M-14 in the Army. Went in when I was 19, never had any firearm experience before. Just followed instructions, and one day decided to see if I could cover my shot group with a quarter. But I didn't have a quarter in my pocket, only a nickel. And covered the group completely. Was totally shocked when during our final testing, I could hit my target at 500 meters, with just that "peep sight."
M14 is great rifle just heavy but they chopped it down more modern use but military contractors still use the socom m14 Sportized stock
these guys are boring.
We used the M14 at summer camp ROTC training in 1968. Pop up targets from 50 meters, a head only, out to 500 meters (547 yards) thighs and up targets. With the peep sight on the M14, I hit out to 500 meters very consistently.
In WW 2 a 4 to 5 MOA group was considered acceptable for a battle rifle. Obviously, some were better.
Hell of a shooer ..sir if you hitting nickels.
Give us a tour of your gun room!!
Second.
+Ben Garrison third you're out jk
dibs
michael sexton
Noice
RIP Barry.
Really missing him.
+Robby Bedell R.I.P.:(
Yea he had a rough personal stretch a few years back and I guess the stress wore him down and he died, it was a sad day, I remember the video announcement, I don't usually have to fight back tears watching you tube videos but I did that day
Wait, is it that old guy
When I was a recruit in the Swedish National Homeguard, at age 15, I had a Mauser m/96, 6.5 mm, with ammunition, in my closet. At age 17 I was transferred to the regular troops at the Swedish National Homeguard and had a Swedish made, KG m/21 - 37, with ammunition, in my closet. The Swedish BAR:s are quite similar to the U.S. BAR M1918, calibre .30 Automatic Rifle (BAR), except that it has a separate pistol grip and are all made in the Swedish m/94 6.5 mm calibre. The Swedish modification was developed by the Swedish government arsenal, Carl Gustaf Stads Gun Factory in Eskilstuna, Sweden.
When I did my mandatory military service, in the Swedish Marines, we had the Ag m/42B. The AG m/42 was designed by Erik Eklund of the AB C.J. Ljungmans Verkstäder company of Malmö around 1941, and entered production at the Carl Gustafs Stads Gevärsfaktori in Eskilstuna in 1942.
We also had kpist m/45B, 9 x 19 mm SMG (Submachine Gun), and produced by the Carl Gustaf Stads Gun Factory in Eskilstuna, Sweden.
Other ordnance weapons were the Light Machine Gun m/58 - Technical data: GP MG - Kulspruta 58, KSP 58. Calibre, 6,5x55 or 7,62x51. Ammunition, 6,5 mm m/94 or 7,62 mm ptr 10. V0, 830-850 m/s and Granatgevär, Grg m/48, Carl Gustaf recoilless rifle, or the Gustaf Bazooka or M2CG, is an 84 mm man-portable reusable anti-tank recoilless rifle produced by Saab Bofors Dynamics (formerly Bofors Anti-Armour AB) in Sweden.
Now I am retired and living on memories!
The 6.5 was one of the finest rifles ever produced, by far and away.
Had 2-> 42B stolen...!
Meanwhile, 7 years later... it would be interesting to see you guys compare/contrast the Ljungman and the SVT40. I miss these old school 5 gun and shooting videos.
This type of stuff is what sets your channel apart. ...👍👍
Thanks for this, my opa carried a k98 and when he moved to Canada he was an excellent hunter. I'm getting what he learned on. More importantly, Much appreciated for the work you do to educate so we don't waste our money on hype but instead invest in quality. Cheers.
i like how people buy a 600 dollar rack grade M1 from the CMP....
then set up a table at a gun show and sell it for 2400.....
fucking assholes.
+Gren Moyo you should see your small town hunting/western store.
come in about 4 months ago..they have 2 boxes of 22, expensive.
"that's all we got..ammo scare"
buy both boxes.... come back next day... 2 more boxes.
they have 30-30 at 22 bucks a box, 3006 at 21, and 308 at 24
when it was all 20 before the scare, and 22 after...
I know 30-30 don't cost the same as 30 06....
meanwhile I'm getting 7.62x54r PPU for 14 bucks a box....16 shipped...
time to buy a reloading press....
+kain hall been saving brass since I was 11.... can't afford a press, can barley get tags and a full tank of gas.most years
+kain hall If you really need to reload, Lee sells hand presses, much cheaper, but more time consuming, also very limited in caliber. leeprecision.com/reloading-kits/lee-loader-rifle/ It's cheaper elsewhere but the link gives you what you need to search else where for better prices. I think Midway is $10 cheaper, there might be places selling it even lower, idk.
+Shadow if i reload I'm going to get nice stuff. I've used rsbn stuff before, loaded a few 223 up.
buying good stuff pays off on the long run.
it's not like I'm loading 200 cases a day, but I'd love to be able to shoot more, so who knows, I might up loading 500 a day!
You guys have been doing a great service to the global community of firearm enthusiasts with your videos & I find them interesting, educating, & enjoyable to watch. Thanks from...PARADISE/Victoria, BC, Canada. Thank you very much, indeed!
Enfield .303 British should be up there honestly......
Best WWII Rifle !!!
ABSOLUTELY
Here's a fact about the SMLE. Because the action locks in the rear, the bolt compresses, and tends to shorten over time. This increases the headspace, and after a while, you'll experience case separations. But the Britts had a solution. The bolt head screws onto the body. So they produced a series of bolt heads, of gradually increasing lengths. When you started to get excessive headspace, you just installed the next longer head. When you reached the maximum length, the rifle was returned to the armory, where the barrel was screwed into the receiver another turn. Unfortunately, most of the SMLEs I've encountered have had excessive headspace, and had the longest bolt head.
Top 5 vintage guns, WW1, WW2, Vietnam, all the wars.
Yes, we still use the old Mosin actions in our TKIV 85 sniper rifles. Also, about Simo Häyhä: he racked 505 kills with his rifle and about 200 to 250 with his Suomi SMG. There is no accurate number to how many he killed with the SMG but it is generally accepted that he had 505 kills with the rifle. Greetings from Finland.
This dope simo was a con artist shooting dead ' frozen and wounded to get his allocation of vodka or what ever the politburo demanded to enhance the red propaganda at the time. The cold winter and long supply lines killed more.
and there was no one to confirm his words, except himself. and killing 30 people every day from the same place is a fairy tale for stupid children.
Enfield Pattern 14... I can reliably put a round through the center of a spent casing at 25yds with the iron sites. Most accurate rifle I have ever fired.
Two Swedish rifles and one Finnish rifle out of the top 5. NORDIC POWER!
Det är ju så man blir tårögd :)
pri vat they sure know how to build one hell of a firearm, no doubt about that.
Nordic countries are foggiest countries around
+Twiggeh för Sverige i tiden
+ROD BOY the fuck you want
Thanks for a great video guys ! I love my M96 Swedish Mauser which drives nails. You have re-energized my interest in classic surplus military rifles. I also appreciate the plug for classic firearms website. Did not know they existed. Keep up the good work !
My Aunt's husband has a 6.5 Swedish Mauser. He loves it, says it's the most accurate rifle he owns.
My first hunting rifle was a Carl Gustaf 6.5x.55 Swedish Mauser. still is my favorite rifle very flat shooting cartridge, deadly accurate using Nosler tipped rounds.
K-31 is King Kong for accuracy. A K-31 is a target rifle in wolf's clothing. The Swiss could not help themselves. Very high precision build. Lapped barrels, target grade trigger, excellent sights, match grade service ammunition The M96 is Queen Kong for the stated reasons in video. 6.5x55 and the 7.5x55 are cartridges of superb design as well, even by today's standards.
Excellent video !
FWIW: Because the Swiss Army was comprised of citizen soldiers, the soldier placed a small tag under the rear buttplate with his personnal info. I had a brief communication with the soldier until I never heard from him again. An interesting guy.
Man, that Chad is so knowledgeable. I miss Barry, but hey Chad knows his stuff and then some.
You could say he is a chad
Wow, I am impressed, you guys have a wealth of knowledge. In the Marines, I trained with the M1 and I packed an M14. Aa a boy, I bought 8MM Mauser from 42, for $60. I mainly hunt moose, because I love the taste. Eventually, I converted it to a 8X06 with a stainless barrel and a fiberglass stock. We call it a poor man's Magnum. I guided a few rich hunters who turned up their nose at my rifle, but it bailed out a few of them. I've hunted with the same rifle for nearly 70 years and that's the sum total of my rifle expertise, but I look forward to your videos in the future.
I love every surplus and 5-gun video you guys put out. Another long-form video like the Martini-Henry would be cool. Keep up the great work, guys!
I picked up M91-30 hex at cabelas years ago. Had been refinished, red paint in the lettering and factory stamp, and the bore pristinely shines. All but the stock looks brand new. That thing performs great. If only I could find SP ammo for it now.
I had a gun buff friend who had a large number of military surplus guns on his walls and especially in his den. He had wooden dowels in the barrel tips to keep out dust and he had air purifiers in each room to keep dust down. His wife did not mind saying he was a very good husband and she was happy to let him sit in the middle of all those guns. She insisted he hire a house cleaner every two weeks to vacuum around all those guns on the wall. She was a looker and he was one of the happiest men I ever knew.
Dust isn't gonna ruin the guns
The more I learn about Finnish firearms and the modified Mosin's they produced it makes me appreciate even more the gun culture that my grandfather and great grandfather tried to instill in myself as a young man. Trust your hardware, know it was made to the best abilities of the time, and to take your time and make one shot count.
Two Swedish Rifles and a Finnish one. Good to see.
The Enfield's had too many tea spillages on them.
Is that funny anywhere?
I Qualified Expert with Both the M-14 and the M-1 Garand, while in the Marine Corps. Great Accurate Rifles.
Our Sniper Rifles were both Civilian Hunting Rifles, That also are excellent and very Accurate: The M-700 Remington and The M-70 Winchester Both Outstanding, very accurate Rifles.
I was a sniper for a few years. My go to rifle was a Winchester Model 70, in 300 Win Mag. Made a 1500yd shot with it.
Always loved shooting the M14 while in the Seabees. 1st expert on rifle before going to m16. Then 1911 exp quals. Love to have all these firearms in collection, but I def would want an M14 in my collection 💪😊
The 700 has always been my go to rifle! From what I hear, the USMC had one of the best and most guarded secret modification program for their rifles. If I remember, the M700s were a long action, so they had adaptability between most cartridge's (i.e. 30-06 or 308). I know the Rem 700s in the Army was the M24 platform.
@M4Sniper1 - m70 in 300WMag is own my terminal list
I have always loved the Swedish Mausers since I was a small kid thanks to a friend of my fathers who was a gunsmith from Sweden in San Diego back in the 50s. Amazing shooting rifles. Shot an AR10 chambered in 6.5 x 55. Never thought to ask the guy how he built that rifle as the Swede round is longer than the 308.
"I think the ratio is more like 362 to 1". Haha that was awesome.
Love my M96. The accuracy with iron sights is uncanny. The Swedes knew what they were doing.
I love that Chad always corrects Eric's number. Eric says 44 and Chad comes in with 45
You are correct @ 12:10 , the Finnish 7.62 TK 85 (tarkkuuskivääri = marksmanrifle) is basically a Mosin-Nagant on steroids. It uses a substantially heavier barrel and has a beefier wooden stock, but still uses in some cases literally antique Mosin receivers and bolts. If I'm not mistaken those rifles were modified by Valmet. I've shot with those quite a lot, during my time as a military police NCO in Pori Brigade, in Kosovo (along with the awesome SAKO TRG 42) and during my military refreshers.
One of the problems with those rifles is that since they use the basic Mosin-Nagant action, you can't use stripper clips to load them since the telescopic sight is in the way and it's a pain in the ass to load each shot individually. If the FDF still wants to keep using those (since the TRG42 is waaaaayyyyy more expensive rifle to procure and maintain), I'd like to see a switch to a stock that would allow the use of detachable magazines, something like the Mosin-Nagant stock produced by Archangel. Using a polymer stock would also reduce the weight quite substantially, the rifle weighs like 7kg which quite a bit more than a rifle like that would actually require.
Either way we know Simo Hayha was a man on a mission, no doubt about it.
Got this jaw blown off. Shot in the face with an explosive round or something
Cool video guys! I've got a Mosin m91/30 that shoots pretty decent. Didn't even know about the M39...might have to go get one!
while i do absolutely love your 5 guns videos, there are just an endless amount of top 5 gun topics. What i love so much about your channel is the vast variety of videos and topics. Amazing selections, and fountain of knowledge in every video. Why iv8888 and mac are by far my 2 most favorite channels.
The 1891 Argentine Mauser is not the first Mauser. The 1871 and 71/84 was around before the 91 and sold abroad.
+Jim Bush first to use smokeless next to the Belgian 1889. The 1889s are not common at all so most people attribute the 1891 as being the first mass produced smokeless Mauser rifle.
+Iraqveteran8888
Ok mate, if you go down that road of smokeless cartridge fair enough. I did not hear you say that. Your videos are superb mate so for a lay person watching it is valuable from the historical point of view hence my comment .
I collect guns over here in the UK but for the historical side not shooting anymore. I am ex British Para and was a Sniper in the Falklands in 1982 .so I am quite envious of what you have in your collection and the prices you can buy them for in the US.
Do you have a Dreyse Needle Rifle?
It would be nice if you could do a comparison of the earliest bolt action/ breach loaders for accuracy is Dreyse, Chassepot, Snider etc
+Jim Bush
all of which are lesser rifles than a russian VEPR
He said is was one of the first Mauser. He never said it was "the" first.
..... the first Mauser was a german Mauser, then i was adopted by a lot of armies and guns where made basin on it.
Great video!
An odd rifle I've found to also be very accurate as well (although underpowered) believe it or not was the 1891 Carcano. Although the Carcano has a poor reputation (Since the JFK assassination) as a poor and inaccurate rifle. I found it to be the first rifle I could easily strike an 18-inch target at 1,500 yards.
But again, like you mentioned in your video, the 6.5 caliber is a perfect design.
Great video, we need to shoot together sometime.
+mag30th Ernest, do you have my direct contact information? If not, contact Brandy on the website and we will get in touch and put something together.
+maciverandy1 thanks! It won't let me post the link, but if you TH-cam "Italian 1891 M91 Paraviccini Carcano 6.5 Infantry Long Rifle at 1,500 yards, 17-inch plate."
I have indeed watched this video, and was suitably impressed.
I have a 1935 Carcano Carbine in 6.5. with open fixed sights she kept 6 in 4 inches at 200 Meters.
Mike Matusek There is sure nothing wrong with Carcanos. I lucked into a nice stash of 7.35 and took three like that to the range with my son last summer, along with a 6.5 Truppe Especiale just like them. That was one of the best times I have had at the range ever. The steel is primarily Czech. They were all so well made that there is no nee to serialize the bolts on them, since they all fit each other. Gain twist rifling makes them plenty accurate too. The don't have the smoothest actions in the world for sure, but they are fine rifles. So under-appreciated..
Love my M38 6.5x55SE. shoots nice. and in great condition.
About two weeks after you published this video, I went with my son to the Northern CMP store in Camp Perry. We satyed on base at the military rate and saved a tiny bit of money for a WW2 M1D (in the 2.5 million SN). I paid $939 for it and having been born in Greece, I was looking for an M1 that came back from Greece. Then my cousin took me to a gun store and I found a new production M1 Garand. Got that for $995. Ofcource I was rubbed by my son, who for graduation and RN license board present, he demanded one of the M1s. I gave him the new production. He' ll get the other in a few years any way. My eyes are not working the same as when I was in the army, accuracy is secondary at this point. I like nice looking rifles. You cannot beat the M1 Garant or the M1A in that respect. Thanks for the video.
Unfortunately CMP has been zero balance on all but a few high dollar sniper model M1's for several months. I looked at getting one a couple of years ago but didn't pull the trigger (ha) when I had the chance. I know they've been zero balance a couple of times before too and found some more somewhere, but who knows this time. In the meantime, CMP being sold out has pushed up the asking prices of M1s already out there. Eventually I'd like to get at least a service grade but I don't want to pay a temporarily (I hope) inflated price for one.
Outstanding video- as usual. This was not too long, Eric. Thank you for an entertaining and informative presentation. This helps me to start my surplus collection. Keep up the good work. Semper Fi. 1st Recon.
The finnish army is indeed still using the Tkiv-85 sniper rifles, that are based on the old mosin receivers just like the M39.
I have two of Your top 5, a Swiss K31, and a Finnish M39. Both Great Rifles.
Those are the two in this vid that I would get. Glad you're happy with them!
I have the Ljungman AG 42 and the K 31.
Glad to see a Finnish rifle on the list I love my m39 too bad the previous owner put a pu scope on it.
Jesus wept
When i was 14, the Mauser from Argentine military were sold in barrels at grocery stores. In cosmoline, they had never been used. The local store had cleaned up one and it like a palace guard weapon for marching. High grade delux finish with jewelled bolt. Hard wood and mirror like blueing. Cost $20. Dad said i was too young! Could have a dozen , cleaned and saved 11 and sold them and bought a nice speedboat when i retired from Army a few years ago. I didd get a new Swede from 1900 with the click round target sight for $80 and another from 1944 with dings. Sold the dinged one a few years ago for about 400. They were both tack drivers. Really enjoy this channel.
Always loved the Lee Enfield .303, especially the #4 Mk. 2. I recall when you could buy one of these great guns at Eaton's department Store in downtown Toronto for $10. Now, at a well known Ontario auction, in good condition, any Enfield goes for at least $600.
I have a Long Branch No.4 MkI* that is superbly accurate, but I think the days of $600 Lee Enfields is long gone, at least in the U.S. and if you want one in excellent condition.
SMLE’s are the official deer rifle of West Virginia!!!!!!
currently restoring one now #4 mk1 version love my enfield rifles accurate reliable able to withstand harsh conditions.....hard to find since our government( Canada) in its infinite wisdom torched all the surplus mk 4s, enough to make a guy cry and they were priceless.......
@@willambonney yes, our government did the same to M1 carbines back in the 90’s!!!!!
The finnish Tkiv 85 sniper rifle is based on a mosin and It's still in use, so yes.
+santtupiip Hopefylly will be phased out soon. :D
5 best rifles under 300-400 u.s. Dollars
Good thing you said u.s. dollars. they might of got confused and did Canadian dollars.
or Australian Dollars lmao
i think the "7.62 TKIV 85" is still used in Finland
+Simon Doge en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62_Tkiv_85
+Simon Doge Yup. Still in service but they are not in so good shape after long service. TKIV 2000 or Sako TRG-43 is the main sniper rifle. All tough the TKIV 2000 is waste cause Finnish sniper training is bad right now.
+Larry Finnish sniper training is actually really good. My friend was there and was not touched a gun before military service and after he came from there he is now a really good shot. And a plus, the finnish military is using The Dragunov in training and on the other things.
The Finnish snipers now days don't operate as classical snipers. They work with the platoon as a marksman and alone inside the fighting force. The rifle is mainly used as a "long range support weapon". Typical sniper example one trained in Kymeen jääkäripatalijoona shoots less than 20 rounds trough TRG. The trainigs lasts about one month. Dragunov is also discontinued rifle but some units still use it (example Rajajääkäri-joukot). The third rifle is RSTKIV 2000 which is barret m82 which the Finnish military doesn't have proper ammunition so the accuracy is something like 2 MOA. There are some groups that give extensive sniper training like Utti's Special yager-regiment, Immola's Special Frontier yager-comppany and the Combat divers.
Thanks for sharing this. Great informative vivid video . your words of wisdom have not fallen on deaf ears
Extremely good video, you guys are competent people and serious. Hard to find American guys without American weapons made bias!!
Say Iraqveteran8888 how about a Top 5 Magnum Pistol & Revolver video.
👍 ... second that.
yeah
And there go all the M39s... lol, wish I had the cash right now.
to me the 30.06 is probably the most versatile round
i bought a model 1935 peruvian mauser in 30.06 for $125.00. cannot do that today.
The nice thing about these rifles is you don't have to worry about a gas tube when you have to substitute black powder when smokeless powder becomes scarce. How to substitute black powder to make a powder measure pull apart a round you need to convert, mark the bottom of the bullet seat, then measure 1mm below the seat mark and cut off at the lower mark (1mm below the bullet seat mark) now you have a black powder measure. The finer the grain of black powder burns faster. You need that space below the bullet seat because of compression of the powder may cause the primer to not ignite the powder. Some firearms are originally configured for black powder. The 45/70 is one that comes to mind. You need 70 grains of black powder. The thing about black powder is smokeless powder is 3 times more powerful than black powder. So converting newer weapons you don't have to worry about over pressuring the firearm unless for some weapons that were originally designed to use black powder and you over fill the casing with black powder. As things after a SHTF situation bolt action, lever action and blowback operations black powder will work in. A weapon with a gas tube you might get 5 shots off before your gas tube gets blocked and you have to manually cycle the weapon. Having a Chronometer is helpful when you need to start using the different types of smokeless powder. If you do reloading you have a set of specifications. Let's say you run out of Ramshot True Blue. I don't use 5.56 rounds because I shoot from my left side. The brass from an AR15 or M16 gets thrown back into my face. However my 5.7 x 28 rifle and pistol I can use the 5.56 bullet and some of the powder charge from the 5.56 rounds to reload my 5.7 x 28mm brass. Just have to find out, using the Chronometer, the proper amount of powder needed. I hope that I gave everyone some good information that I received from another person who does reloading. I have very few rifles that have a gas tube. And one rifle in .308 has a gas rod and spring system for delayed blowback operation. As the 2 rods are pushed back to extract and reload the rifle chamber. When the rods push back forward it blows the extra gas back out of the gas port and cleans the gas port and the 1st rod section of the gas tube. This rifle, although it has a gas port and gas tube setup it won't jam or plug up the gas operating system.
I have an 1896 6.5 X 55 the bayonet nose piece and rear sight was missing and I purchased Nos original parts and was able to attach the bayonet and frog. A very accurate rifle and fun to shoot. Better than my British 303 Enfield unissued brand new (1943) a very flat shooter. I bagged a trophy Elk with my Swedish Mauser 6.5 a true Cadillac of a rifle truly. And as you said not cheap to shoot as 20 rounds at $74.00 Trophy Grade Nosler Ammunition for hunting not plinking absolutely.
I want all of these rifles now.
+Brock Obama The crappy thing is there are only so many types of them.
I would have thought the Springfield 30-06 would be up there some where.
Ralph Latham they had a 1 in 11 twist. perfect for any match grade ammo. I've yet to buy a 1903 06 that didn't shoot
well just ordered a finnish m39.
Thanks guys....
I had a Carl Gustav Mauser made in 1938. It was hand selected with a mirror bore. A little work on the action and 7" lopped off the barrel. She was fitted with an old Redfield Wide Angle scope and a Timney trigger. The 6.5x55 delivered under 1/2" groups with her favorite ammo.
My x took it for spite when she left. I wish I had her back. (the rifle, not the bitch) I want another one. It shot RINGS around everything else I had.
The fins still got steam rolled in the end lol.
Very hard to pick just 5 guns!!!!
+Gungeek Especially older firearms! hope all is well up there in Canada. Say hello to 314299 for me.
+Iraqveteran8888 hey Erik and Chad enny chance you can make a video showing how you do the ladder shot test to be cost effective plz? love your channel greetings from Sweden!
+Gungeek really hard but here in Holland you have too the 5 is the max guns you can own
raoul pabon
I mean for a top 5 video :)
ok
how do the remington 700 and M14 fare when compared to these rifles in accuracy??? was wondering also of WWII era rifles like the Lee enfield and the karabiner 98k???
700 will outshoot them all and be lighter weight. Now could you go to war and beat someone to death with it? Eh maybe...
Apples to oranges really
C&R...FTW
Simo Hayha be like: "They see me skiing, they hatin'"
Since you went on a mini Enfield rant, I picked up a post war 1948 No.4 Mk1 in unissued condition a few months back and man...she is just a dream to shoot. I've seen a lot of Enfields with rusty ladder apertures and the whole 9, but knowing I own one (even being a post war example) in essentially mint condition is a great feeling.
I've shot some of the best groups of my life with a Swedish Mauser.
grandpa fought in ww2 and used a k98
+Towelie MCtowel oh
+Bob jones mine carried a sten, if it fell over every one got shot when it dumped
My great great grandfather fought in ww1. By the way he was fighting for the Germans. Got Mitt Uns
My German ancestor did not use a firearm, he used a Stug 3. My Irish-American one used a Garand.
Collin Shay Well a tank cannon is still technically a firearm, just on a much larger scale. Same mechanisms though.
look at the trigger pull on that M39....
yeah man
Thank you gentlemen. Your video echos my own personal experience. I noticed that many of the comments are equally interesting. Please keep up the good work.
when you guys talk, your sheer amount of knowledge brings back good memories of my wise old grandpa, keep it up guys, love what you are doing
Can you guys please *include the rifles in the description* or have the spelling on screen when you are talking about it? I basically wasted 10 minutes trying to figure out what guns you guys were actually talking about via Google....which is annoying...when I'm already listening to you guys talk about it...
7.62 Tkiv 85 is the sniper rifle that is based on the russian mosing-nagant. The Tkiv 85 is the standard sniper rifle for finnish defence forces and it is really nice to shoot aswell. With love from Finland.
I was in sniper reserve cource few years ago... We were shooting with Tkiv 85. With this gun i shoot every bullet in ring 25mm in 150m during weekend. When i shoot with my own hunting rifles with basic cartridge what i can buy in store, there are quite often some flyes, and i thought that i am bad shooter.
I have a m91/28 a 1917 pre Soviet date on the tang and a 1943 Tikka barrel
Great shooter
Concerning the GP11, we dont produce it anymore since 1990 if I'm not mistaken.
We might re-produce some in the future and maybe it won't be berdan, but it will probably be closer to a RUAG match than a GP11.
Since 2012 the Stg 57 has been officialy droped out of the reserve of the army so the only service weapons using the ammo are Mg51 machineguns, it's not enough to motivate the army to re-start production, they will probably kick those out of service too sooner or later because of the change in doctrine.
For the 57 you'll probably see a batch comming, but they took the decision to destroy most of them. To give you a scale there were approximately 1 million of 57's produced, with 8 (yes, 8) barels per piece (yes, we tend to stockpile a little). So they are now destroying approximately 5-6 million new match barells because the leftists won. Going to puke, comming back in a few sec......
But don't worry too much for the GP11, in the 1990's when we stopped production there was something like 8-10 BILLIONS of rounds in stock, so considering our primers are the weak point of our ammo by far (give it 50 years max) you'll find GP11's that won't go off before not finding GP11's at all.
I have all these rifles except for the Ljungman. My 1903 Springfields will shoot as well at least as any on your table. One more thing - a good 28/30 will shoot at least as well as an M39. More weight in the barrel and less in the stock. I won't mention my preference for the GEW-11 over the k31 at the range, lol. But - I sold my k31s for a reason.
Eric: the sunrise was 7:41 today
Chad: pffft, it was actually 7:42
Are you guys still planning on shooting the m39 at 1000 yards?
+ZzBiohazzardzZ oh yes we are! We are in the process of doing some load development. Trying to copy the D166 loading pretty closely for good measure
***** Ok cool Eric, I can't wait.
+Iraqveteran8888 Awesome! Looking forward to it.
my 1903 shoots just as well as my mosin
When you say Ljungman i keep dying....
It's actually not that bad for him being an American
you guys are awesome. it helps that I agree 100% with your opinions on each rifle. I tell people that will only carry the most tacticool stuff out there that I can do just as much damage with an 85 year old .303 No.4 Enfield as you can with your extended magazine, vertical grip flashlight. You guys prove that! great work!
My Dad preferred an M-1 Carbine during WWII. He brought home a 7.7 mm bolt action Japanese infantry rifle from WWII. I used it for deer hunting. My Dad had a 8 mm Mauser WWI, German cavalry carbine, with a scope, that he used for deer hunting.
Lol Eric do you get annoyed when he constantly interrupts you or one ups you? You say it shoots 2750fps he interrupts and says actually it's closer to 2740fps as if there is any difference, you say a few hundred to 1 for mosin to m39 ratio and he says no it's actually 362-1, and finally you say how you got the guns then he goes I actually got a nicer one in Vegas then the m39 o ya this ones nice but the one I bought in a private sale has a much nicer stock than Eric's god that would drive me crazy... Damn "one uppers" annoy the hell out of me
Had a work employee just like that shit wears thin real quick. Long story short took him to the bar once then a house party and cracked his jaw lol now the dude doesn't even look at me hahaha.
Eric didn't say "a few hundred to 1 for mosin", he said 900 to 1 for mosin. Chad saying 362-1 is a very reasonable/non one up-ish correction.
please get your information correct before you start ragging on someone.
Brian Taylor 2.0 have you watched many of IV8888’s videos? Chad tries to “one-up” Eric all the time, if he was around a less-patient man he would have had his clock cleaned by now.
@@JosephWheeler14 I see it as them trading off talking. I rarely see true interrupting. I guess you just don't want Chad to talk? Because I am sure he is there for more than just us to look at.
you know what? Eric, you have to give yourself more credit, and even if the vid was 30mins I'd still watch it and yes there may be other channels that are now doing 5 gun vids and hell they might even be great vids, but i like your 5 gun vids because you don't bullshit us, you don't talk to us like we are children, you and all the guys there are so likeable that is what makes us keep comming back
hey Eric have you read rifles of the white death?
+MikhailBarracuda91 I have a signed copy.
I should have figured lol it really is the definitive book on Finnish Mosins
+MikhailBarracuda91 Suomi mainittu! Torilla tavataan!
+Perse Eki perkele
Whenever my grandfather died, he gave his truck to my closest cousin, and gave me all of his guns. I've never really payed attention to them, but recently my school did a research project on Russia in WWII. There was this Finnish sniper called Simo Hayha. I looked at his rifle and said "Damn, that looks similar to the one in the gun cabinet." Then I realized I have two Finnish Mosin Nagant's, and I never even knew it. Yea, they need to be de-rusted and oiled, but never the less, I have a Mosin.
The Mosin is a piece of junk, until someone is shooting at you with one.
Where is the Lee Enfield no. 4?
have shot that rifle up to 600 yds and scored marksman for 7 years. The same rifle british 303 is used in teh british bisley world match and shows up in top 3 for last 50 plus years. Bad oversight on your part me thinks
In the trashcan you fucking Tea drinker
Please spell out and add any specifics to the semi auto rifle there please?
What is the name?
LJUNGMAN
Swedish mauser M42B in 6.5x55 20rnd mag
Also, if you would please: is there a video you have made regarding it? (Ljungman?)
Ljungman AG42B 6.5x55mm Swedish
i love militaary surplus guns
military
Proud American yes my friend so do i there great.
dude I don't see a 1903a3
So ,don't fall for the mythology .
I really respect that you are trying not to hurt the feelings of the Patriots nor the match-shooters by skipping the debate about Garand and K98,
salute dear brother.
i love bolt action rifles ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
Saw Chad today at my work with his son :)
+Zachary Geiwitz Should have said hello! We were just killing time while the wife was at Michaels...blah...lol
+Iraqveteran8888 when he said he had a bigger version of the last gun in 8 mm did he mean 7.92x57 Mauser?
le Enfield .303British mk4 is the best
Nah
+Johnny Nawatani
I guess 'beauty' is in the eye of the beholder. My choice would be the K-31, for what this is worth.
+Johnny Nawatani now days it is hard to find a lee enfield without bore pitting
The Lee Enfields were not built to last after the war.
+TechGaming45
Well then with that line of thought,.I guess you could say that applies to all military weapons that were built for the Wars !!!
Tell us, how would they plan, and build in, obselescence for those rifles ??
Havent told you guys yet, but after watching dozens of your videos, yes dozens, love your stuff
I own a M39 and it is my favorite purchase. It's incredible on the range!
Thop 5 videos isn't your concept
+Hagen yeah but when people blatantly copy our concepts, verbiage, descriptions, and meta data its in pretty poor taste.
+Iraqveteran8888 that's true
+Iraqveteran8888 Who are you referencing that copied you? The only one I can really think of doing top 5's is TFB TV???
+Jeremy Garner meh they do the top 5's in their own "style" though sorta. and utube is filled with top 5 carry pistols top 5 fighting rifles etc. not many are interesting though they lack Chad and Eric or the late and truly missed Barry's presentation.
+Hagen your videos are way better than TFB TV's lame lists
I will pick my 1903 Springfield over any of them any day of the week
quit making these video's. You just make the price go up lol
My first IV8888 video. I'm hooked. You guys work well together!
Well as a sharpshooter trained Finn here, we were practicing with the Tkiv 85 (tarkkuuskivääri 85), based on the mosin nagant.