Flying Between The Houses (Air Algerie Flight 702P) DISASTER BREAKDOWN
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On December 21st, 1994. Disaster struck in the British town of Coventry just 4 days before Christmas. What became an already devastating scene narrowly avoided further fatal consequences as a Boeing 737 clipped the tops of nearby homes before crashing into a wooded area nearby to the local airport, also damaging other infrastructure.
What makes this story so intriguing is that for one thing, the purpose of this very flight was actually pretty controversial and unusual. When I tell you, that this plane came from the Netherlands but belonged to the National airline of Algeria, one may have some questions as to just what this plane was doing? Secondly, this is almost a forgotten incident. For the people of Coventry, this was a very localized accident that didn’t really get much nationwide coverage at the time and again very little since. So what was the deal with this mystery plane? And why did it crash?
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Can you please do kam air 904 or ariana afghan airlines crash in 1998
If you get the chance, a double feature of Thai Airways International Flight THA311 and Pakistan International Airlines Flight PIA268 would be great.
18:24 Shouldn't it be "increased reaction times" rather than stated "decreased" (in relation to fatigue in pilots), since a decrease in reaction time would mean less time between action and reaction.
I grew up in the area and was about 15 when it happened. I lived in the area and don't remember much about it but I remember people talking about it and pics in the local paper
I'm impressed by these Disaster Breakdowns. It's been many years since I played with GA Flight Simulators, and I'm impressed by the fact that you make videos with types that are really old and somewhat rare. So, my question is, do you make these videos with something like Microsoft Flight Simulator, and where do you get the models from? You do a good job explaining to the audience the physics of flight and instrumentation, which I suppose is why your channel has such a good support base. For my own part, I find these videos intriguing because you once in a while cover accidents & incidents I haven't heard of, but mostly because I'm impressed that you make some great flight videos with the equipment in question! KUDOS! 👍
My brother and I were in Coventry that morning, having purchased a local Midlands Bus and Train "Rover" Ticket at Coventry Bus Station. As you state, the weather was pretty foul that morning; wet and very cold. It was also quite misty as well but the mist appeared to be lifting as we boarded a bus that would eventually get us to Birmingham. Very soon after leaving Coventry, we both noticed a fairly large plane (that we assumed was going to Birmingham Airport) flying very low over a wooded area. We both exclaimed "what the heck is that plane doing?" as we lost sight of it. Much later that day when we arrived back into a very cold and foggy (thick fog) Birmingham from Stourbridge, the headlines for the local paper talked of an air crash near Coventry. We assumed that this was the same plane we saw earlier as the timescale was correct. We were both surprised at the lack of national coverage of the crash the following day. Like many others, neither of us knew that there was a Coventry Airport as both my Brother and myself were living in other parts of the Country. Thanks for covering this as I have related this story to many people who had never heard anything about the crash.
Of course bro
How can you be so specific and detailed in description but not actually say anything worth reading?
@@EFFEZE of course it is England weather after all
@@PlumSack79 How can you be so rude? If you don't like what I said you could have passed it by. Specific about what?
@@MrTudwud well sir it's called trolling, self appointed gatekeepers of You Tube comments, baiting people for inconsequential reason to provoke a reaction.
My mums just showed me this we lived in this house, after I was born, moved in literally just after the accident (talking 2 weeks) you could see the scars where they had rebuilt the house all through my child hood until we moved away, there is a plate near the area it landed, my brother pulled the curtain over it for the paper, god bless them ❤️ I had so many nightmares in that house xx
I can imagine. The video focusing on the aircraft I didn't catch any mention of what happened to whoever lived there at the time of the accident. I wondered about it. But at the least I would think they'd have to move out for repairs (and probably not want to stay.) Thanks for posting.
I am an Algerian so I have heard of this plane crash before, it isn’t covered much at all as there are only a few other videos on TH-cam covering this crash, so I am very glad you made a video on it, Thanks!
Why does the tower never take any slack
Im also algerien buy i never heard of it
I’ve been following aviation incidents for a long time and it isn’t often that I encounter a jet crash that I’m unfamiliar with.
Here I did.
Great job covering s fascinating and perplexing crash.
Shrouded in mystery.......
It can be odd. Some things get a lot of attention from the media etcetera. Meanwhile others just seem to slip by into obscurity. Why doesn't this crash have more publicity and so on ? It feels like it really should somehow. Anyway Thank you and congratulations. Excellent and informative. Very well done.
Shoutout to all these people who guessed Air Algerie disaster will be the main topic of the upcoming episode of DB just by looking at the map's piece uploaded by Chloe. 🙌 Thank you for covering 702P, I've never heard about this one before. and I hope your health is better than last week, Chloe. ❤️ Greetings!
Thanks I am getting better!
@@DisasterBreakdown great to hear! :)
As a Coventrian, I feel I am obliged to inform you that Coventry is *not* a town, but a CITY!😂😂😂
Misnomer aside, this was a great video. I was very young when it happened and for some reason I always thought it was a smaller plane - not a Boeing 737! I’ve never met anyone who has ever spoken about it, and I don’t think there are much in the way of commemorations around the anniversary, at least to my knowledge anyway. My only recollections of it are of adults saying how dreadful it all was.
It truly is a forgotten incident.
Thank you for shedding light on it.
Such accidents were fairly common back then. A few years prior to this BA almost lost one of their 747s at Heathrow after the pilot flew too low on approach into the airport in fog. The autopilot was wonky, the first officer had the shits, the captain was by himself, and the plane ended up so low, it cleared the airport hotel roof by mere feets!
Yes I can't sleep and was craving an aviation video. I haven't heard of this crash so I'm looking forward to watching this one. Your videos are always amazing.
Thanks so much for watching, hopefully you get some sleep soon!
I'll tell you something else too. The final report blamed pilot error, but they should have blamed the airline company for not updating the electronics so that the radio frequencies could have been dialed in properly. I guess at the time that company thought it was too expensive to update the electronics. Wonder how expensive they found it to get another jet?
Ok so…
I have PTSD. The combination of voice and the soothing piano music is so comforting that, I find these videos so comforting.
Love your content. Please don’t take this the wrong way
17:50 Algeria is in the same time zone as the UK in the summer and only an hour ahead in the winter. There's nothing to adjust, that's negligible.
You did a really thorough job on an incident I have never heard of . Thanks for your dedication, we all appreciate your work!
great video, as always! even in the fog must have been incredibly unnerving for those in the nearby houses and on the road to see this great looming float/tumble past them 😬
Terrifying, I'd probably wet meself
Try Stockport Air Crash in 1967. A mix-up lead to not enough fuel being put into the plane, made worse by the way that the fuel tanks worked. They very nearly got to their destination - Manchester Airport - but they came down just outside Stockport town centre, in an area of waste grassland, the only place that they could have crashed without killing people on the ground. It's thought that the pilot used the very last of the fuel to avoid killing folks on the ground.
Edit:- Forgot to say, hope you're doing well, and keep on keeping on!
Fantastic video! Channels like yours get me the air investigation fix without any of the drama and 50 minute episodes of those larger documentary shows.
I remember this incident as I was actually in Coventry visiting friends when it happened - about half a mile from the crash site … scary stuff!
Thank you again Chloe, your videos never disappoint ❤
I’ve started saying “Hello everybody” as soon as that black rectangle shows up on the screen - my daughter thinks it’s hilarious, because I make her watch your videos whenever I’m visiting her house, as her daughter seems to find your voice captivating (my granddaughter is almost 1 year old) ❤
This was a really interesting video! Until recently I used live in the South Coventry area just past the airport and have heard of this incident but, as I wasn't born when it happened, have never really looked into it much. My mum remembers it quite well, and it's interesting to still see the dent it's caused in the landscape today! I've always wanted to learn more about it as I often watch your videos and have always been interested in aviation incidents, but as you said it was never widely reported. Thank you for covering it in such a meaningful and well-researched way!
i managed to guess this crash in the post, i thought this accident was quite interesting... epic video chloe! hope you are feeling better since last week
Thanks! I'm feeling much better :)
Nicely done, and fascinating story. I much enjoy your thoughtful work, and willingness to tackle obscure disasters.
Disgusting that they ban the cruel "Veal" practice in UK but still allowed to ship the poor creatures out like this.
Great job this week as usual - I love all the detail you're able to put into each video. Keep up the great work, Chloe!
as always, I liked before starting the vid cause ik this is some A1 content. Thanks Chloe!
Despite being an avid fan of these (not the accidents, the investigations and finding of causes) Ive never heard of this crash.
However, it seems, that far too often it only makes headlines, when its a passenger plane. Even if its a small plane with 1 or 2 persons onboard, it'll make headlines, but somehow a big freight plane, even with 2-5 ppl onboard, apparently isnt "sexy" enough for the news media. So usually we only have major stories on those cases, like the El Al freighter, that crashed into an apartment building in Amsterdam. Otherwise the freight plane crashes, regardless of plane size and ppl onboard, at best get a line or 2 in a place, where most ppl dont notice it.
Thank u for covering these accidents!
Seeing the empty space in the wooded area where the plan crashed is really sad, 5 people lost their life there.
I do believe they did their best to avoid any fatalities on the ground.
Fascinating google maps images of the crash site, in 1999 still scarred with the route the plane took but by 2021 it's regrown so about 25 years allows a forest to heal damage
The roof that got cut is so symbolic for cutting corners on keeping the plane safe i.e. with an ILS beacon that supports 40 channels.
Yep. Man, why does it seem that companies can get away with cutting corners, in expense of people's lives. The airline operator should have upgraded the plane's ILS to support 40 channels.
I never heard of this accident. Being an airline pilot, we used to study various accidents in recurrent ground school to see how they could have been prevented. I flew the 737-200 as a First Officer. I remember practicing ASR approaches in the simulator over the years.
I've actually flown from Coventry and I think that it was to Jersey.I believe that it's freight only now but it went through a period of development as a low cost airline airport.The Pope also used it when he visited England.As it's so close to Birmingham International and East Midlands isn't far either I can't see why it was developed as a passenger airport but at the time these airports were popping up like mushrooms.
They tried to be an LLC airport but the fact that Birmingham and East Midlands were so close killed any chance it had at being successful.
It is now cargo and general aviation only and there even has been some proposals to close it down entirely.
I used Coventry Airport for a time, for trips to Spain. It was small and felt luxurious, so much more enjoyable than the hectic Birmingham International Airport.
dang i never knew a plane crash happened so close to me in the past, i live like an hour from Coventry
Another air incident I've never heard of. Thank you Disaster Breakdown for an excellent video! 👏
Correction to what is stated in the video: 7T-VEE was built as a 737-200C, with the cargo door installed at manufacture. Several other early 737 operators, including Aer Lingus, Britannia and Lufthansa availed of this option in order to operate short-haul jet cargo services. The aircraft could be converted quickly between the passenger and cargo roles, as the seats were mounted on pallets and could be installed or removed in an hour or two.
Dude I'm actually from Algeria, I was about 8yo at the time of the accident and believe it or not this is the first time I've ever heard of it
If you ever can't find an idea for a disaster breakdown video, may I suggest the Rammenstien 1988 airshow disaster? My parents were there the day it happened, and they (understandably) do not talk about it. I would be interested to hear about it in your format! Great video as always!
I’m from Coventry and I’d NEVER heard of this! Thank you for this, never would have knows about it without this video!
Algeria was in the middle of a bloody civil war at this time. There was probably additional stress on the airline & crew.
Very Similar to Iberia flight 610. Hit an Antena durring descent and crashed much more casulties
Looking at the map no part of Algeria is likely to be more than 1 hour out from UK time. The legs they had been flying would have a bigger effect than where they were from. And fatigue leads to *increased* reaction times, not decreased.
Honestly, I think the pilots did the best they could under the circumstances. They were clearly sleep-deprived, but once a crash was imminent, they were able to avoid any casualties to anyone not on the plane.
I’m half Algerian and I went to uni in Cov 😮 how random
It bothers me alot that these lesser known crashes aren't as covered or known. So many of these accidents go unnoticed.
I love it when you say ‘hello everyone’ at the end of the video. Lol
What’s also interesting-the fact this accident happened on December 21, 1994-is that it happened literally three or four days before the hijacking of Air France Flight 8969, and Algeria (unless I misheard) was also mentioned in that video as well.
At least there were no animals aboard. It's amazing that a power line crosses right before a landing strip of a commercial airport. I can see that at a small airport for general aviation but not a commercial airport.
3 days before Air France flight 8969 hijacking form Algeria 🇩🇿 to France 🇫🇷
Good catch.
@@sarahalbers5555 thank you
slightly unrelated, but your patron’s name “ground beef warning system” made me audibly chuckle 😂
Did I miss why ATC didn't have accurate altitude information? When you first mentioned they didn't have access, you said you'd come back to why, but I didn't hear that.
Me too...
This is the first time I heard of an airliner used to transport animals.
Jay, airplanes regularly carry top (expensive) race horses all over the world, and have been for many years, and probably other types of horses as well, for instance, horses which compete in Olympic equestrian events. Mind you I was surprised that they carried cattle, ie. veal calves, which could easily go by sea.
This make and model of aircraft is still used to transport animals, especially high cost horses. They use them because they can’t climb too fast. This gentle climb and decent is easier on the animals.
If the left wing was hit and the right wing coming up, why did the plane crash to the right? Did the pilots put in some really hard control inputs in that direction in the seconds before the crash? I would have expected it to go left otherwise.
A brilliant video.. well done and I love these longer videos.. please keep them coming
You do great breakdowns of this stuff. Keep up the good work!
Mentor Pilot just published a video on same accident.
Great job, Disaster Breakdown, as always.
Love the narrator's gentle voice
Visited this crash and a memorial is placed on one of the houses near the planes final impact site
Why in the world would anyone ever live so close to an airport? I will never understand.
For those out of the loop of the 1995 death of Jill Phipps I always recommend people to learn her story as it was a tragic accident as well.
Thanks for that, very sad to read about this brave lady. Its disgusting that the lorry driver was not prosecuted though.
This make and model of aircraft is still used to transport animals, especially high cost horses. They use them because they can’t climb too fast. This gentle climb and decent is easier on the animals.
rip to all of the crew
Great video as always!
Great job on video 👍
i live just next to the Binley Recreation Park and my grandad told me all about it
I would like to think that the pilots did manoeuvre to avoid houses. I certainly lessen the blame given them. They SHOULD have had the ILR. They were overworked and very tired. It really feels like calling the accident "pilot error" is only half the story and going hard on them.
i remember this happening i deliver to the industrial estate on the flight path on a regular basis & always think of this accident. i will say i never knew that the aircraft had clipped a pylon. thanks for sharing.
Great video. You may be interested in doing Austral 2553
Hello! Thanks for all the videos! They are all so fascinating. I was wondering if it would be possible to put a link in the description to videos you suggest we watch from the same channel, I have a hard time finding them sometimes. Thanks!
I live in Coventry and grew up in the area it happened. I don't remember much as I was only about 15 but I do remember people talking about it a lot. And I remember seeing pics in the local paper
"Yes, that Binley"? I feel like I'm missing a reference. O.o
she highlights a meme chip shop on the map
I was working in my Bedworth office when there was a sudden brief power cut on the day.
I hadn’t heard about this and as ever you did a brilliant job Chloe. A bit sad this story felt, if a few hours sleep could have saved them.
I really love this channel and have been following it for a long time now. What I don't understand though, is why people with quality content such as this, that's well presented and narrated with exceptional and listenable vocal delivery, feel the need to add irritating background music? Around 6 minutes in, that awful, pathetic, piano tinkling away in the background made me just turn off. I eventually finished later with the sound muted and subtitles on. What is the point of it? Does there always have to be some background noise filling every space?
I like how you pronounce Amsterdam the Dutch way. Small detail, but props!
Wonder how they cleaned the plane out after moving livestock. 🤔🤢
1:38 someone should use the yaw damper(?)
Ok another 23 minutes in bed it is 😂
Thanks for this video. I have never heard about this incident.
I love your work. Keep it going.❤
You'd think that Churchill had ordered a mandatory blackout of any news of Coventry after 1940 that's never been revoked. That's the only way I can think of this news not getting reported, even in the 90s.
I don’t know why they left the other airport until the weather at Coventry was nominal.
I can't imagine all the livestock on a plane. How they're secured etc. It happened so long ago, but the first thing I thought of when you mentioned the UK and cows was mad cow disease. Amazing what a long shadow it has for those of us around back then!
I missed it the first time I watched this video but caught it upon re-watching: She called out the location of the Binley Mega Chippy! LOL!
As someone who is from Coventry, I recall this incident well.
Just for information, also (sorry), Coventry is a city not a town. 👍🏻 Anyone from Coventry, and had relatives growing up during The Blitz, will know what I mean.
Great video, interesting story. As you said, a forgotten accident not many have heard of.
It’s just like a cb uhf radio there were 20 channels then 40 channels now there is 80 channel uhf cb radios the ILS is just like a cb radio but instead of trainsmiting voice it tells you how high from the ground using radio signals
Coventry Airport doesn't have a VOR, it has an NDB, Non Directional Beacon. I got my PPL and CPL at the airport and knew it very well at that time.
It passed over Binley Mega Chippy :O
As soon as I heard "Binley" I had exactly the same thought.
18:28 Oo, ooo I know this one! Because the plane was already configured for landing. So the plane thinks that the plane is getting close to the ground because its obviously about to land.
Great podcast. It's sad when any plane crashes.
Me coinsidancilly watching this 4 days before Christmas
HOW SAD
They started exporting livestock from where my mum and dad lived in Brightlingsea, Essex, and when the animal rights lot got wind of it, they descended on the tiny port town where they caused absolute chaos for the local people for weeks. Not just peaceful protests but violence as well which meant riot police in Brightlingsea....... absolutely mad!!
This is why they moved it to Coventry and used aircraft where animal nut jobs couldn't easily get to the process and disrupt it.
Will you do a double feature of british European airways flight 548 and northwest airlink flight 5719? You would be shock by the captain's attitude and behavior!
I live in the UK - never heard of this crash / never saw anything in the papers or TV news
Coventry has an airport? I thought that Birmingham was close enough
Yeah everyone forgets there is an airport there
@@DisasterBreakdown I went to Uni there for four years in the late seventies and never heard of it!
I did my pilot training in Coventry Airport and sadly I never heard about this accident.
Planes are not diverted. It is the crew who have the ultimate decision. If you are doing a short flight you set the thing up on departure as far as practical. SRA’s are family unique British procedures. You are given headings, told when to start a Xº descent and information such as “You are now three miles, altitude should be 1,230 feet. [Callsign] is cleared to land.” As for the crash site, the locals decided that they would “liberate” various items from the wrecked before the emergency services arrived. Some of those on site suggested that it would have been better if this aircraft had crashed a bit earlier and take out some of the “problem families”. The most likely causes were poor training, tiredness and fatigue, inappropriate/incorrect equipment, disregard for minima, poor local briefing/preparation etc.- but they were cheap!
Did any of the other animals on board survive? Just because the passengers weren't human doesn't mean you should gloss over them.
I can help you with some of the questions this video left behind. I’ll preface by saying that I got this information from a Mentour Pilot video regarding the same incident.
But the short version is that the pilots flew too low after making a series of mistakes because they were SEVERELY fatigued-working and flying well beyond what would be maximum legal flight hours today.
In fact, in their condition they were fatigued to the point that they were more impaired than being drunk on alcohol.
i wonder if this is the same Phoenix that comes to my airport, they both do cargo but they only use small planes here like Barons and some Cessna twins, would be cool if its the same tho
Two British cows are talking about the Mad Cow epidemic. One says to the other "Aren't you worried about Mad Cow Disease?"
The second cow says "Why would I be? I'm a chicken."