I really feel so sad for the mom Ashley. She was abused physically and mentally by the bio Dad. She lost a child, Carly’s baby sister. And then her remaining daughter kills her. Very tragic.
My granddaughter picked her scalp and cut herself. She is the sweetest girl but I got her help. She was NOT on medications. But she also did not have access to guns or knives for a long time. My granddaughter had been through a lot in her first 5.5 years of life. She is also an honor student and graduated high school currently in college. i monitored her text messages and all cell phone activity. Parents needs to watch and talk to their children. Nothing is more important.
I can't understand why they wouldn't have hid/locked the gun to protect Carly from herself. Wouldn't that be any parent's first thought when you find out your child has clinical depression and possibly other disorders and is switching meds? For a "smart family", not that smart.
Makes me so mad how many times Mental Illness are used as a excuse. And blaming the parents. She wanted to kill them . Her age should not be a defense.
I just rewatched the shooting video and it’s even more cold blooded than I realized at first. She was utterly merciless. I guess that’s why her family thinks it was a psychotic break. It’s the only way they can make sense of it.
I'm sorry you feel that way, but at the end of the day she is still a CHILD! No normal child would do something like this. She needs help and she Definitely didn't need to have access to a loaded gun
@@carriemacinnis6780 You have that right which is EXACTLY WHY she should never be milling about in society. She is not normal something is messed up BIG and it is not going to “fix”.
This judge didn't let anyone play games. He was always straight and to the point. He had control of his courtroom. Carly tears were fake, absolutely no remorse!!!!
Unfortunately your anecdotal story means nothing. There is a black box label for suicidal ideation/actions too… but you didn’t commit suicide. Does that mean we should remove the label? No. You don’t get a cookie for handling medication differently than another person.
@@heatherlindsey971All he is saying is that having mental illness is not an excuse for murder unless you have no idea of right from wrong, and Carly definitely showed that she knew the difference.
@@heatherlindsey971 lol okay. I didn't take medicine. I took real elicit hallucinogenic drugs and never felt so overwhelmed to murder anyone let alone my mom 🤷🏻♀️🤨
Sociopaths, psychopaths and narcissists 99.9 percent of the time are the most intelligent people you can meet and do a lot of good for society. Jack Welch, former CEO of General Electric, Jeffrey Skilling from ENRON and Dick Cheney are prime examples of the good they do.
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@@davidneraas750 Jack Welch made more money for himself, his executives and his investors then any other CEO of the 20th century. He also downsized GE by over 100,000 employees & quadrupled the stock price. He also made industrial operations more profitable by refusing to follow stupid communist environmental regulations. If that's not the mark of doing good in society then I don't know what is.
Right!? She’s only sad for herself , looking around with a pleading pathetic face, feigning tragedy and sadness, is so fake. I’m glad justice is served.
If she started killing when she was 14 years old, who knows what she could’ve done if she was not apprehended. It’s not a question of if it, it’s when she would’ve done it!
The fact that she sent her stepdad that text and waited for him is not an act of insanity, it's premeditated murder. She recognized him and planned to shoot him & he didn't recognize her because she just shot her mom and planning to shoot him. Most likely rage & adrenaline on her face, not a mental illness. She recognized her friend who came over. Telling her friend to run demonstrates she knew that it was wrong & well aware of the consequences. An insane person would've shot the friend, at the police, etc., or not tried to escape at all because she wouldn't have understood she needed to run. A mentally ill person, like a schizophrenic, doesn't choose when, who, where, or what they hallucinate about. Same for Bipolar psychosis. Point blank, hard to comprehend, but she's a cold blooded killer.
She was having a psychotic break... She was not suffering from a lack of IQ. Her thoughts were directing her action. In addition, she was smoking pot, which can make those delusions even worse. Teen years and early 20s are sometimes the onset of schizophrenia and the first psychotic break. cutting is often a signal of extreme depression and rage... Her parents may not have understood the seriousness of her moods because she is a teenager and that's kind of normal...very sad...
Don't get me wrong, USA is a great country, but God forbid me to live in a country where people think guns are a good way to control violence. They just bring it to another level.
Shame on you for asking such a stupid question! Why wouldn’t they have one with the relationship of love and respect they had for each other. They never thought in a million years she would or even could think of doing such a thing to them.
I am disgusted to what the defense said! Also tired of the victim blaming. Please a 15 yr old knows enough not to lay hands on that gun. She is totally responsible
Yes, a 15years old healthy normal child. That's a kid to whom a lot of damage has been done. She needs a proper help, of course not with walking home, like nothing happend. But in jail she won't get ANY psychological help. And ... 4ever. Till the end. And the defense wanted to be granted to bring Ashley's mother to the court, but day missed the date for 1day and her mother would bring up some Isusses that ashley also had.. she was also bipolar - and when she was 14 she also had to pull a gun out of her daughters hand.. those are facts that weren't aloud to be brought up , because they missed that 1 fuckin*g day. So carlys genes were messed up from her dad and her mum.. and no one else could bring that up then their parents, otherwise it would be hearsay. They were not aloud to mantion it. And the defence attorneys did it pro bono.. cause ms.Todd had also a brother with menthal health issues to whom were given different pills.. and he changed so much.. and one day he also pointed a gun at their mother .. the mother said : in his eyes i saw something different and i didnt know if he is going to shot me or not. Next day he committed suicide. So ms. todd is aware that medication can do harm to teenagers and others.. and wanted to help her. And because that trial happend within 6months.. really quick.. they didnt have the time and money to make a extra brain scan on Carly.. where you can see , her brain is not functioning right. And the attorneys aren't aloud to provide that money. 🤷🏻♀️ Even if they wanted to. Knowing all that cause after the trial ms.Todd gave an interview online. If someone is interested, i give you a link: th-cam.com/users/livedSvqXwd7XAA?si=sGnvnkV1UAOB6mzr
@@slisha4940 I don't think so more to this problem that has been brought out. Why did she just graze the stepfather had a clear shoot to bring him down
I agree with the verdict - sad as it is. That kid's life is over. She has a long time to regret it. It was obvious she wasn't insane, she did this so casually. sad story
You don't believe that these medications can cause these types of incidents? You must not have experienced these kinds of medications, then. This is why ppl need to be aware of the black box warnings of these medications.
When I was a teenager my mom and I argued constantly. I was convinced she wanted the worst for me and my life was just soooooo unfair. Clearly that wasn’t true. I was depressed and anxious and never once thought of killing my mom. We’re best friends today. I’m sad Carly made such a permanent decision to “fix” a temporary problem. She’ll have to live with that.
I am glad that these judges and courts have held these perps to account. Too bad she's young, but behavior MUST have consequences. 14-year-old know the difference between right and wrong.😢
Most people with mental health issues, dont hurt other people, unless they feel they need to defend themselves, and it is RARE that one unalives someone. Very rare.
I agree. They’re more likely to hurt themselves than other people. It actually pisses me off when people want to use it as an excuse and explanation of a crime with no legit foundation for it. This only feeds into the stigma of mental health. My daughter works at a mental health/crisis clinic and the biggest problem they have with their clients is the stigma where other people believe they’re dangerous. Including staff at shelters. One of our sons has psychosis. Again, he’s not dangerous to others he’s a danger to himself. Tho it’s not to say it can’t happen it’s just not likely.
@@flowerpower-ze4jw i agree totally this girl is dangerous. This girl took a weapon to school so who was she thinking of hurting there? This girl i feel could be a serial killer and would have ended up one. Why call a friend to ask them come look at a dead body and tell her friend what she was going to do with her step dad and he still supports her seems so odd.
@@flowerpower-ze4jw if i were her step dad i would leave town and stay clear of her, because if or when she gets out she did not finish you off the first time so i would be watching her very carefully.
I think that judge’s reaction to the Brady fiasco was phenomenal. Imagine wasting all that time - and potentially jeopardizing a prosecutor’s job and reputation - because you don’t know how to use software?? Unbelievable.
I made an awful lot of stupid and wrong decisions when I was a14 year old girl.. But never ever would I have thought killing my parents would be an option to avoid getting punished!!!
If I had been given access to a loaded gun at 14 while my mother and I were being unmercifully assaulted and abused, I might have been a Carly. I would have done anything to make the abuse stop.
She was able to get the gun from u n d e r a mattress!? Is that not negligent? America, you have a gun problem. Not to say she might not have tried with a different type of weapon, but the odds of fatality is much lower without guns involved.
I grew up in the country with a loaded shotgun in every corner. I knew better than to touch them. I never, not one time, did I ever think to pick up one of those guns and use it on my parents or anyone for any reason. The mentality in this country has shifted to hands off parenting and the internet and social media are raising the children. If parents and the schools do not make some major changes we are going to see more of this.
I'm not from the US and I don't know much about the law in general but I always found it revolting that minors can be tried as adults. Plus, I really don't like leaving the decision about the sentence to the jury and not the judge, who has the knowledge and experience to really weigh and consider every aspect of that ruling.
People keep saying the mom said 'help me' in the video before Carly started singing. I rewatched it, and I think she does. The dogs react. Carly starts singing to cover it up (which makes more sense) and then goes back to where her mom is. Even more callous on Carly's part.
@@karenhummel49 I thought that, too, but I didn't hear quite the same pop as the first three shots. Not sure. But then at some point she puts a towel over the mother's face
yes she even went back in there to finish what she started to me that is not an episode if it was she would have not went back into that room when she heard her mom BEG for her life. and she POSEd her. Her right before her during and her after the crime shows me what i need to know that she was mad at her mom that day and did what she did i understand others opinions but this is mine and so many others.
@@debraward1813 The state should be ashamed of themselves, this child shouldn’t have been tried as an adult For goodness sake you can’t even rent a car until you’re 25 year of age most of the time , the dealerships had it right from the get go , the bran is not fully developed until 25years of age I hope they are granted an appeal
@@WhiteRose360-ji8wc Hi, I wonder if you would feel the same way if it happened to your family? What do you think would happen if Carly didn't get treated as an adult? If not an adult and it was done as a child. She would get 1 first count 4 years. 2nd second count 3 years, in Juvenile Detention. Than at 21 years of age she would be let go. Free! If that was her sentence how do you feel about that?
A cold blooded killer.she wasn't shedding tears when she Murdered her mom. Wanting to show her dead body to her Friend . Proud of her handiwork. Matricide to the highest degree. Age does not cause me to pity her for her crime.
@@EdithNoorani Carly was bawling 😭 profusely over the step-dad’s police body cam & he was just grazed by a bullet - but was so upset over seeing his dead wife’s injuries (Carly was removing her mom - who she DID NOT she’d one tear over bcuz she was in LOVE 😍 with her step-dad) did he encourage her somehow?? 😳😱
I really truly don’t see a real tear. I truly don’t think she understands the words the people in the court are using. But she is not sad what she did to her mom. That’s the scary part. She shot her mother in cold blood and not even a tear.
Her being young is a big deal but she still deserved life. I think most agree. Wished justice always worked and looked like this. Great judge. Great short trial. Justice served!!
I wish that mental illnesses would not be used as smokescreen for juries all the time. Most people who struggle with mental health issues are not violent and they are more likely to be victimised in crimes than perpetrate them.
I disagree. We know that a huge percentage of prison populations are mentally ill. It is what causes a lot of crimes & it is why the idea of prison doesn’t stop people from committing crimes. The fact that others are mentally ill and don’t commit crimes means nothing. It’s like saying drunk drivers aren’t an issue because most drunk drivers don’t wreck and hurt others. The issue is that we aren’t willing to look at mental illness in that population and do more to prevent crimes based on those contributing factors. If we all collectively ignore mental health as a major contributing factor, we can’t fix it. We have a system that can only punish people after a crime & that is a problem. The drugs Carly was on likely caused all of this, it is linked to suicidal and homicidal behaviors. These drugs aren’t suitable for children. Does that mean she should be free? No. But if we took it seriously we’d be less likely to prescribe to children in the future, perhaps reducing similar incidents. Isn’t that the point? Less crime or do we just enjoy sending kids to prison for life?
Thank you. It seems like the only time mental illness is taken into account is when it’s the perpetrator rather than the victim. That’s not to say it doesn’t matter in a court of law but usually they’re victims and easy targets at that.
Some mental illnesses are caused by childhood trauma. It's a huge factor in psychopathy and addiction. If we actually care about society as a whole, we should be focusing on fewer abused kids.
I don't know what the lawyers were thinking when they rejected the plea bargain. They're Mississippi lawyers. They knew what the verdict was going to be. They really screwed up.
In Germany life means 25 years and after 2/3 of the time you get parol if your behavior was good. America has very high/hard punishment and even death panilty, but it keeps nobody away from murdering etc. 😮
No, a minor can not have a sentence of absolute life in the US. Watched a similar case in Colorado. 17 killed deliberately two with additional death of a fetus ( the woman was advanced in her pregnancy ) and he got “life” which actually meant 40 years. He was charged as an adult.
@@FollowingfromafarBooth-jz4jqno her sentence is life without parole In United States juvenile cannot receive a mandatory lifeveithout parole sentences but can receive with judge discretion In Colorado is different because every states have its own laws
It is, but it’s obvious they are reading the live chats, where people are accusing the step dad of being creepy and possibly being the mastermind and inappropriate relationship with her.
@@RedBone-q2v that her stepdad molests her amd her mom did nothing about it and that's why she killed them. Lawyer then said it was a lie. I felt seething ragebecause I actually lived that. And yet, I and millions of other victims don't commit murder.
I saw a lot of comments about the stepdad acting “weird” and when I saw the video I wondered if Ashley had cameras to keep an eye on the husband and Carly just in case …🤔
I was struck by her demeanor when the judge gave her sentence. She was crying when the verdict was read, but was perfectly composed and even nodded her head at the 2nd life sentence. She never once showed an ounce of emotion when her mom was mentioned. This young lady should have taken the plea offer. 🤦♀️
She only cried for herself, not for what she did. Anytime they talked about her mom or what she did to her stepdad she never got emotional or cried. She only cried when it involved her, how she was a victim etc etc.
But it never does. There is a mental illness component here and that is the sad state of affairs. Punishment is due and necessary but life without a parole for a 15 yr old who was 14 when she did it? Seems like a no win situation across the board.
I agree with you here, Mr. Tragos: Ms. Gregg's sentence should have included ongoing psychological evaluations and treatments, and possible release depending upon said evaluations and treatments. In Canada, our correctional services follow a rehabilitation model, which gives prisoners daily jobs and sometimes houses 10 people (minimum and medium security) each to a model house, which helps with social skills and autonomy. I imagine it would be very hard for Ms. Gregg to reintegrate, as she will have never driven a car, bought herself groceries or obtained employment.
We are talking about a child a fourteen year old. Their brains aren’t fully developed until they are 24. I can’t believe mental health is taken so lightly. I hope none of you ever have to deal with it. How can anyone determine if a fourteen year old can’t be rehabilitated.
Guns being kept in unsafe places is surely a recipe for disaster. She knew where the gun was and chose to use it, guilty verdict is correct, but again guns being so easy to use is a no brainer.
I grew up around guns and never would have touched my parents guns. That said I married a career military man. We had guns but given the age of the kids they were kept locked up and only us had access. That is how it should need. No one other than the gun owners should be able to access them.
Here’s logic: The presence of a firearm in the home measurably increases the chances of a person in that home dying by firearm. That is a fact and a phenomenon, and nothing any of us have experienced or learned or think or believe will change it. Make your choices accordingly.
@@andelorable I have been in a home with guns all my life and no accidental shootings or intentional in over 60 years. I see no increase here. Have always been around many guns.
I am not so sure this applies. If a parent puts a firearm in the hands of a child. I agree wholeheartedly, but, in this case mom was scared for her life (obviously from the wrong person) and had a firearm ready for self defense. Very tragic that the very item she had for protection ended her life.
@jenniferc4251 I don't want to victim blame this poor mother. She clearly had tried her best with her daughter. A trigger lock could have delayed her access and allowed her to tackle her child.
@@jenniferc4251Very sad, because there are gun safes that allow you lock up a loaded gun and open that safe in about 10 seconds in an emergency. This mother was incredibly negligent in my opinion. She didn’t deserve to die, but she most definitely aided in her own murder.
Yes it does. When your child's doctor prescribes meds think of this girl. Mine committed suicide, instead of homicide. My child wanted to kill her own amazing mother tho.
I'm a mom of a son with severe adhd. I met with specialist and went to medical support groups his entire life. I know if you give an ADHD child a bipolar med and it's not bipolar, you CAN cause a schizophrenic episode it's very well know in pediatrician Medicine. Which is why they don't diagnose bipolar til a child is atleast 16 yrs old
She was definitely psychotic. And she is on 10mg of abilify which is a really big dose of a mood stabilised and she’s good. I’m really not sure why US courts are so reluctant to look clearly at mental illness
@@nikkimclay5474 Kids know right from wrong so you are incorrect. Even the 10 Commandments teach "Thou Shalt Not Kill" although Carly was an Atheist which is a whole other story in and of itself.
@@nikkimclay5474have you ever worked with teenagers??? They are capable of more than people realize. Good and bad. Shocks the crap out of be. She is capable, however she may not have completely understood what the outcome would be. Now she does.
To all those thinking that mental illness should have been a component of this crime… I am a diagnosed and being treated for depression & anxiety for about 15 years now. I also have PTSD. I was also married to a horrible narcissist and have a narcissistic mother. Never have I ever never thought to harm anybody, never. This whole mental illness causes this type of aggression is totally ridiculous. Most of us that suffer are very withdrawn, timid, and, afraid of the outside world. I wish these people would stop telling garbage like this and disrespecting and insulting the real ones that suffer from this horrible mental disease. I know other sufferers & they are the same as me. That’s why there’s still a huge stigma around Mental Illness & why we try to hide. Because you all think we’re nuts but we’re not. Most of us have been through a lot & most of us are sensitive, empaths & very intuitive . Which can be really be a curse sometimes. This girl does not suffer from mental illness. She’s just a monster. You can’t rehabilitate people like this. I’ve known horrible people for decades. They only get worse with time.
Just about every mental health diagnosis-PTSD, Bipolar, OCD, Major Depressive Disorder, etc.-can present with psychotic symptoms. It’s true that the majority of people with these diagnoses are not harmful to others, but there are still people who are. I worked on an inpatient forensic psych unit for people being evaluated for competency and NGRI defenses and I’ve seen people who are without a doubt cold-blooded killers and I’ve seen others who are truly horrified by what they’ve done and others who will never be able to stand trial because they are just gone and not coming back. We (and I say we because I have a PTSD diagnosis as well) can’t demonize others who share our diagnoses with a “If I’m not dangerous then they shouldn’t be either.” There are extremes to every diagnosis that don’t leave people with choices. (None of this is in reference to this particular case…just in general.)
Thanks for sharing ❤❤ I’ve suffered from severe dissociative panic attacks since I was a young child due to every abuse by my mother. I am 60 now and recently experienced a severe panic attack. Yet, never ever have I ever thought of killing anyone. Shame on this defense. Yes, she’s young and life in jail sounds harsh. Some lords are just born evil. Had she not done this, she most certainly would eventually.
Thanks for sharing ❤❤ I’ve suffered from severe dissociative panic attacks since I was a young child due to every abuse by my mother. I am 60 now and recently experienced a severe panic attack. Yet, never ever have I ever thought of killing anyone. Shame on this defense. Yes, she’s young and life in jail sounds harsh. Some lords are just born evil. Had she not done this, she most certainly would eventually.
Want to give my opinion before I hear yours. I am a retired career federal prosecutor. Thought state did a great job and loved the judge. Don’t think there is reversible error as to guilt. BUT…I think it was gross legal malpractice for the defense to not present evidence re: sentencing! Come on! Put on witnesses about adolescent minds, maturity levels, witnesses who love Carly who plead for her, others who know her, etc. Inexcusable and If appellate court doesn’t review it on direct appeal, they will on collateral appeal. I see a new sentencing in her future.
I saw numerous either professional failures on the defense side or personal failures where skill training in public speaking would go a long way toward believing the male defense attorney. He sounded unconfident in his client and his position. Why would the jury believe him when he doesn't seem to believe what he is saying. They both ignored Carly crying after the verdict was read before sentencing. They both looked indifferent to Carly and could care less that she was so distressed. Did they not prepare her. These failures are just a few I noticed, not having watch the entire trial. The jury was likely tainted toward Carly by the demeanor of her inept counsel.
I agree, they looked totally unprepared when the judge went right into sentencing, they really dropped the ball there, they should have had an expert and I think even have Heath her stepdad testify, something my gosh the fact they did nothing was mind blowing and they could have had Carly speak as well , I'm not sure during this sentencing phase if there is cross examination I don't think there is but I could be wrong, her team looked like they were not even expecting this to roll right into sentencing, I think that was ineffective assistance of counsel for sure. I'm sure there will be an appeal or at the very least her sentence may be deemed wrong and changed or lowered by an appellate court
I think the step dad has a hand in this. Perhaps she wanted him , dabbled , then stepped away. Hence the haircut. The fact she broke that day, being crossed again by friend. If that was the boy who didn't get there, was his saving grace.
@@judymurray191ongoing research indicates that the brain of a teenager is completely different from that of a full grown adult or of a preadolescent child.
"You'll be ok. I love you." That broke my heart. People forget that if even just one person loves you, that person is serving your sentence too. Your pain is their pain too.
When Johnny Depp went to court I started watching your channel along with a few other lawyers. I stopped watching theirs. You don’t curse. You make it entertaining. Most importantly you teach me to see from both sides. Thank you Peter from Seattle Washington. My son moved 12 years ago to Hialeah Florida. My daughter in law whom I just adore is Cuban. So it’s nice to visit in Florida but I find it more peaceful here, just a ferry boat away from Seattle. By the way I am bipolar 2 and 61. I was diagnosed at 43. I struggled with mood changes, anxiety, and severe depression since 16. I unfortunately agree with the verdict. I am responsible for my actions and bipolar illness should never be an excuse. I made a lot of bad decisions and hated taking meds. I take them now everyday and will until I end my adventure here. I never had the benefit of counselors or medication or even talking about mental illness. I did what I had to do to survive. It was hard for me and my family. I’ve been married 31 years now. My husband is no angel but very close to it.
I’m 70 I started watching Peter during Johnny Depp as well he’s the only one I have a paid subscription too. I watch trial court coverage with “Recovery Addict” cause I don’t like court tv or law and crime for the same reasons you do, it’s a great platform.
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@@Grammichal I love how very blue we are. It shows about how we want life to be better for people wearing red hats as much as we want it for ourselves.
Thank you for covering this case and sticking to the legal aspects of the case. That’s why many of us follow lawyers on TH-cam. Not all TH-cam lawyers cover cases without getting overly emotional and biased.
I have seen people claim he did this in comments and chat, and I agree with you, there is no evidence whatsoever for that. This man is suffering, his attack, subsequent injuries, loss of his wife, loss of his family, willingness to say what was needed to help his step daughter, alienation of some family members on his wife’s side. If there’s anything going on in the home, who knows, the teenage girls boyfriend knows. Why he wasn’t put on the stand is beyond me!
Because they are trying to put in their minds that it was a possibility. Lawyers are all about helping their clients. So on a moral stand, it's bad but they are just doing their job... which they did poorly.
@SISSYKAY She made reference that Carly could have said she was being sx abused by the step father as a defense and everyone would have believed her, yet she chose to be truthful and use her mental condition.
Brilliant video. No jargon but also put terminology in context and set "the scene" with each section. I think she fully deserved that sentence. Heinous. Could've waited 4 years, moved out, smoked all the trees in the world. May her mother rest in peace after such a terrifying, heartbreaking, senseless way to die. First video, new viewer, now new sub! Time to binge!
I am guessing the step-father was spoken to a lot by the defense and was probably encouraged to not say too much . He obviously is trying to do what his dead wife would have wanted and that is to protect her as much as he could.
Thank you for the updates and breakdowns. It's such a shame to see young people do these horrible things. I cannot see a child as an adult though. The "law" decides at what age a person reaches "consent". If someone is too young to understand and agree to creating life aren't they also too young to truly understand taking a life? If i am presented with a young person and told "this is a child" i will think YOU are crazy if you turn around and say "but now i want you to only see an adult". It should never happen in the legal system. It makes NO SENSE.
I get the impression they didn't (he especially doesn't) know much about mental health/illness, or didn't fully understand it. For example, he wasn't even aware of her diagnoses or specific medications (and as another example, keeping a loaded gun within reach of a mentally ill/depressed teenager). I guess the mother must have told Carly about the gun for her to know about it, unless she went snooping.
Hate when kids get life without parole. Hate they get prison. Wish we had institutions to actual rehabilitate kids who commit crimes. Not Juvi or Prison. Obviously there should be outliers of just being pure evil evil.
Dr. Pickett did a excellent job! The state did a great job. I loved when the defense attorney tried to be smart to dr. Pickett and said her own stepdad she had a horrified look on her face, like she didn't even know him. Pickett said I don't believe that she called his name 3 times and also texted him from her mothers cell.
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I really feel so sad for the mom Ashley. She was abused physically and mentally by the bio Dad. She lost a child, Carly’s baby sister. And then her remaining daughter kills her. Very tragic.
thats exactly my feeling too.
@@tilly3821 Ashley needs to be remembered.
She could have killed her step, dad.If she wanted to she chose not too she made it look like she was going tell but she didn't want to...
😅 And I haven't even watched much of this just going by what I see in my office all the time.... I feel seriously bad for her and her mom
@@bonniecoy2732 He got the gun away from her that's why he didn't get killed. He got the gun and she ran off.
My granddaughter picked her scalp and cut herself. She is the sweetest girl but I got her help. She was NOT on medications. But she also did not have access to guns or knives for a long time. My granddaughter had been through a lot in her first 5.5 years of life. She is also an honor student and graduated high school currently in college. i monitored her text messages and all cell phone activity. Parents needs to watch and talk to their children. Nothing is more important.
I will also say she suffers with terrible anxiety but she had a horrible childhood and working on ways to cope.
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Great job! We do the very best we can and still hope. ❤
Medication is not to blame here. Glad you got your granddaughter help.
I can't understand why they wouldn't have hid/locked the gun to protect Carly from herself. Wouldn't that be any parent's first thought when you find out your child has clinical depression and possibly other disorders and is switching meds? For a "smart family", not that smart.
Makes me so mad how many times Mental Illness are used as a excuse. And blaming the parents. She wanted to kill them . Her age should not be a defense.
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I DO NOT feel sorry for that girl.
I just rewatched the shooting video and it’s even more cold blooded than I realized at first. She was utterly merciless. I guess that’s why her family thinks it was a psychotic break. It’s the only way they can make sense of it.
Neither she knew exactly what she was doing and the jury got it right
I'm sorry you feel that way, but at the end of the day she is still a CHILD! No normal child would do something like this.
She needs help and she Definitely didn't need to have access to a loaded gun
@@carriemacinnis6780 You have that right which is EXACTLY WHY she should never be milling about in society. She is not normal something is messed up BIG and it is not going to “fix”.
@@carriemacinnis6780 I 100% agree she should be punished for her crimes , but not for the rest of her life doing that is giving up on humanity.
This judge didn't let anyone play games. He was always straight and to the point. He had control of his courtroom.
Carly tears were fake, absolutely no remorse!!!!
I wish this judge was residing over the Karen Read case. He’s very no bullshit ✨✨
The only judge I like less than Canonne (spelling? KR judge) is Glanville from YSL.
Yes!!
#FreeKarenRead
He is! Kinda nasty; and he made a comment about not being rude, but he really was.
@@Uapqv336xzuqkloved this judge!
As a kid I suffered from depression and anxiety. I took a lot of drugs, but I never felt like I had to murder anyone let alone my own mother
Unfortunately your anecdotal story means nothing. There is a black box label for suicidal ideation/actions too… but you didn’t commit suicide. Does that mean we should remove the label? No. You don’t get a cookie for handling medication differently than another person.
Carly is a different person and had a different experience.
@@heatherlindsey971All he is saying is that having mental illness is not an excuse for murder unless you have no idea of right from wrong, and Carly definitely showed that she knew the difference.
@@heatherlindsey971 lol okay. I didn't take medicine. I took real elicit hallucinogenic drugs and never felt so overwhelmed to murder anyone let alone my mom 🤷🏻♀️🤨
@@user-gg9fp1fh5u 👏👏👏👏👏🙏 well said. God bless you and good luck with your life.
Sociopath, not insane.
Psychopath
Exactly!
Sociopaths, psychopaths and narcissists 99.9 percent of the time are the most intelligent people you can meet and do a lot of good for society. Jack Welch, former CEO of General Electric, Jeffrey Skilling from ENRON and Dick Cheney are prime examples of the good they do.
A bold statement from a youtube comment section "legal expert" with no expertise and no documentation to back it buisness as usual in the youtube comment section;)).
@@davidneraas750 Jack Welch made more money for himself, his executives and his investors then any other CEO of the 20th century. He also downsized GE by over 100,000 employees & quadrupled the stock price. He also made industrial operations more profitable by refusing to follow stupid communist environmental regulations. If that's not the mark of doing good in society then I don't know what is.
….and now Carly cried. I feel so very sad for the
mother. 🙏🏼
I feel she is GUILTY.
Right!? She’s only sad for herself , looking around with a pleading pathetic face, feigning tragedy and sadness, is so fake. I’m glad justice is served.
Oh my God. I am 81 years old and the thought of having been in prison since I was 15 is just sickening.
If she started killing when she was 14 years old, who knows what she could’ve done if she was not apprehended. It’s not a question of if it, it’s when she would’ve done it!
I turned 37 in August. It's like me being in prison since 2002 and still got the rest of my life to go
Oh well
@@luckyme4277 Awww, Aren’t Your special. Feeling big ??
Life w/out parole?? Horrible!
Totally agree that the video was vital to the guilty verdict.
Hell is Empty. All The Demons are on Earth
Loved this judge; he was fair and firm, ran a tight ship and kept things moving.
This judge is needed in the case Derek Rosa.
The fact that she sent her stepdad that text and waited for him is not an act of insanity, it's premeditated murder. She recognized him and planned to shoot him & he didn't recognize her because she just shot her mom and planning to shoot him. Most likely rage & adrenaline on her face, not a mental illness. She recognized her friend who came over. Telling her friend to run demonstrates she knew that it was wrong & well aware of the consequences. An insane person would've shot the friend, at the police, etc., or not tried to escape at all because she wouldn't have understood she needed to run. A mentally ill person, like a schizophrenic, doesn't choose when, who, where, or what they hallucinate about. Same for Bipolar psychosis. Point blank, hard to comprehend, but she's a cold blooded killer.
Agree with you 100%
Wow, you know your stuff. Are you in the profession?
She was having a psychotic break... She was not suffering from a lack of IQ. Her thoughts were directing her action. In addition, she was smoking pot, which can make those delusions even worse. Teen years and early 20s are sometimes the onset of schizophrenia and the first psychotic break. cutting is often a signal of extreme depression and rage... Her parents may not have understood the seriousness of her moods because she is a teenager and that's kind of normal...very sad...
That’s all speculation. Glad you’re not a judge or an attorney
@@lindamerritt5242 NO expert ever diagnosed a psychotic break.
Thank god for cameras and videos. It is cementing the guilt of criminals.
Why would you allow your child who you find out is troubled access to a loaded gun in the house!?!
Why to judge Ashley?
Carly did kill Ashley premeditated and no remorse, this is all about. Life sentence 👍
Don't get me wrong, USA is a great country, but God forbid me to live in a country where people think guns are a good way to control violence. They just bring it to another level.
Shame on you for asking such a stupid question! Why wouldn’t they have one with the relationship of love and respect they had for each other. They never thought in a million years she would or even could think of doing such a thing to them.
That's my hugest question?How did she get a gun?? How many gun owners get killed or accidental deaths by kids and family have to happen???😭😭😭😢
@@mamabobakAre you for real? No gun around the kids.
ow she's upset that she's getting punished but not killing who loved her
I am disgusted to what the defense said! Also tired of the victim blaming. Please a 15 yr old knows enough not to lay hands on that gun. She is totally responsible
Yes, a 15years old healthy normal child. That's a kid to whom a lot of damage has been done. She needs a proper help, of course not with walking home, like nothing happend. But in jail she won't get ANY psychological help. And ... 4ever. Till the end.
And the defense wanted to be granted to bring Ashley's mother to the court, but day missed the date for 1day and her mother would bring up some Isusses that ashley also had.. she was also bipolar - and when she was 14 she also had to pull a gun out of her daughters hand.. those are facts that weren't aloud to be brought up , because they missed that 1 fuckin*g day. So carlys genes were messed up from her dad and her mum.. and no one else could bring that up then their parents, otherwise it would be hearsay. They were not aloud to mantion it. And the defence attorneys did it pro bono.. cause ms.Todd had also a brother with menthal health issues to whom were given different pills.. and he changed so much.. and one day he also pointed a gun at their mother .. the mother said : in his eyes i saw something different and i didnt know if he is going to shot me or not. Next day he committed suicide. So ms. todd is aware that medication can do harm to teenagers and others.. and wanted to help her. And because that trial happend within 6months.. really quick.. they didnt have the time and money to make a extra brain scan on Carly.. where you can see , her brain is not functioning right. And the attorneys aren't aloud to provide that money. 🤷🏻♀️ Even if they wanted to. Knowing all that cause after the trial ms.Todd gave an interview online. If someone is interested, i give you a link:
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Maybe she needed help at 15 I have did some stupid stuff
"done"
@@slisha4940 I don't think so more to this problem that has been brought out. Why did she just graze the stepfather had a clear shoot to bring him down
And she ran after she did it. She knew she was in trouble
I was uncertain until I saw the video. That along with Dr Pickett’s testimony, sealed it for me.
She literally has no emotion. That seriously is concerning. It reinforces to me that the jury got it right.
I mean she was sobbing during the video playing of her killing mom, so she does have emotion . She looks horrified at sentence .
@@laurad324right? I’ve seen a lot of emotion from a supposedly emotionless child. What am I missing?
@@laurad324Manipulation of the jury.
@@laurad324she just has a stink face with no tears. manipulative crocodile tears.
I agree 100% with the jury. I agree with you that the video was very damaging.
She was too cool for me to think she was insane. This was methodical!
Sane people don't calmly commit murder.
@@mybuu5988 I believe there might be a possinility cartels sanely kill people as business decisions
I believe that you shou!d research detachment.
NPD is rampant. She is upper level.
@@CHOOKIE67 How do you know?
Boy, did they screw up not taking the plea!
What was offered?
@lordrayden3045 40 years.
And she may have been released after only 20.
Can you really get let out on probation after only serving half the time? @@vitalucas9452
@@vitalucas9452
That’s a lot but better than this
Womp womp... 😂😂😂
JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED!!! JUSTICE FOR ASHLEY!!
Good! Her accessory friend that watched and did not call the police when she basically confessed and showed her the deceased should be jailed too.
Could have prevented shooting step Dad! There could’ve been 2 people dead!
I am giving that friend the benefit of doubt because I can believe she would have been freaked out and Carly still had a gun.
@@mercuryangel5632YEP!!!
She knew exactly what she was doing and was punished accordingly.
She’s a child
She honestly looks disturbed. She resembles a young Sarah Boone!💯
@@jz7079 She's also a calculating cold-blooded murderer and 12 jurors unanimously agreed with me. Sorry not sorry.
Yes, she’s a child who killed someone. She ended her mother’s life. She shouldn’t get to have a life outside of prison. Ever.
@@jz7079 A CHILD That Killed Her Mother. She Should Stay In Prison.
I really like this prosecutor. She did a great job with this case. Great judge, too. I think the video is what got her the Guilty verdict.
Yes I like her too. Very smart.
I agree- her closing was excellent.
I forgot the doctor’s name but he outlined what the video meant. Excellent job
@retroqueenbeeart The outline of the video was very smart
@@retroqueenbeeart Dr Pickens
I agree with the verdict - sad as it is. That kid's life is over. She has a long time to regret it. It was obvious she wasn't insane, she did this so casually. sad story
insane or not, i dont want her having public access ever again
So do I and I’m a retired mental health therapist. She’s culpable and now found guilty. The jury was brilliant as was the judge.
@@5thdimension954 Yep...totally agree. NPD? Upper level I believe.
You don't believe that these medications can cause these types of incidents? You must not have experienced these kinds of medications, then. This is why ppl need to be aware of the black box warnings of these medications.
She was 14, she does not have the capacity to legally drive. I don't understand "the system"
These kids are out of control, harsher punishment needed all around
Totally agree!!!
I agree
When I was a teenager my mom and I argued constantly. I was convinced she wanted the worst for me and my life was just soooooo unfair. Clearly that wasn’t true. I was depressed and anxious and never once thought of killing my mom. We’re best friends today. I’m sad Carly made such a permanent decision to “fix” a temporary problem. She’ll have to live with that.
I really like this judge. No nonsense. Just facts
I am glad that these judges and courts have held these perps to account. Too bad she's young, but behavior MUST have consequences. 14-year-old know the difference between right and wrong.😢
It Your Country with it MAD GUN LAWS for one
Most people with mental health issues, dont hurt other people, unless they feel they need to defend themselves, and it is RARE that one unalives someone. Very rare.
I agree. They’re more likely to hurt themselves than other people. It actually pisses me off when people want to use it as an excuse and explanation of a crime with no legit foundation for it. This only feeds into the stigma of mental health. My daughter works at a mental health/crisis clinic and the biggest problem they have with their clients is the stigma where other people believe they’re dangerous. Including staff at shelters. One of our sons has psychosis. Again, he’s not dangerous to others he’s a danger to himself. Tho it’s not to say it can’t happen it’s just not likely.
Agreed
Mentally ill people are no different than anyone else when it comes to the potential for harming others.
She needs to do life without parole.
Trust me her last breath is behind bars
@@flowerpower-ze4jw i agree totally this girl is dangerous. This girl took a weapon to school so who was she thinking of hurting there? This girl i feel could be a serial killer and would have ended up one. Why call a friend to ask them come look at a dead body and tell her friend what she was going to do with her step dad and he still supports her seems so odd.
@@flowerpower-ze4jw if i were her step dad i would leave town and stay clear of her, because if or when she gets out she did not finish you off the first time so i would be watching her very carefully.
@@ChrisCornell420 hope so
Really like a no-nonsense judge. And no wasting time!
I think that judge’s reaction to the Brady fiasco was phenomenal. Imagine wasting all that time - and potentially jeopardizing a prosecutor’s job and reputation - because you don’t know how to use software?? Unbelievable.
Correct verdict.
I made an awful lot of stupid and wrong decisions when I was a14 year old girl.. But never ever would I have thought killing my parents would be an option to avoid getting punished!!!
If I had been given access to a loaded gun at 14 while my mother and I were being unmercifully assaulted and abused, I might have been a Carly. I would have done anything to make the abuse stop.
She was able to get the gun from u n d e r a mattress!? Is that not negligent? America, you have a gun problem. Not to say she might not have tried with a different type of weapon, but the odds of fatality is much lower without guns involved.
Yeah me too. Would’ve never even entered my mind as an option. And I was a “bad kid” but this was also 1989 and we didn’t own guns. 🤷🏻♀️
I grew up in the country with a loaded shotgun in every corner. I knew better than to touch them. I never, not one time, did I ever think to pick up one of those guns and use it on my parents or anyone for any reason. The mentality in this country has shifted to hands off parenting and the internet and social media are raising the children. If parents and the schools do not make some major changes we are going to see more of this.
@@cleoh666Yes the whole society is sick with the lack of gun control.
These children are both victims and criminals.
I agree, the video sealed the deal. The state’s psychiatric expert also made a huge difference.
I'm not from the US and I don't know much about the law in general but I always found it revolting that minors can be tried as adults. Plus, I really don't like leaving the decision about the sentence to the jury and not the judge, who has the knowledge and experience to really weigh and consider every aspect of that ruling.
People keep saying the mom said 'help me' in the video before Carly started singing. I rewatched it, and I think she does. The dogs react. Carly starts singing to cover it up (which makes more sense) and then goes back to where her mom is. Even more callous on Carly's part.
I thought I saw Carly go back and shoot the mother again when she heard her mother crying?
@@karenhummel49 I thought that, too, but I didn't hear quite the same pop as the first three shots. Not sure. But then at some point she puts a towel over the mother's face
I thought I heard her speak as well.
yes she even went back in there to finish what she started to me that is not an episode if it was she would have not went back into that room when she heard her mom BEG for her life. and she POSEd her. Her right before her during and her after the crime shows me what i need to know that she was mad at her mom that day and did what she did i understand others opinions but this is mine and so many others.
The jury got it right!!!! THANK YOU TO THE JURY!!!!
@@debraward1813
The state should be ashamed of themselves, this child shouldn’t have been tried as an adult
For goodness sake you can’t even rent a car until you’re 25 year of age most of the time , the dealerships had it right from the get go , the bran is not fully developed until 25years of age
I hope they are granted an appeal
@@WhiteRose360-ji8wc We'll see. A jury had little difficulty in drawing another conclusion.
Ewww who celebrates a 14yr old little girl....who btw was wrongfully put on high doses of lexapro...goingmto jail for life? Sicko
@@WhiteRose360-ji8wc Hi, I wonder if you would feel the same way if it happened to your family? What do you think would happen if Carly didn't get treated as an adult? If not an adult and it was done as a child. She would get 1 first count 4 years. 2nd second count 3 years, in Juvenile Detention. Than at 21 years of age she would be let go. Free! If that was her sentence how do you feel about that?
@WhiteRose360-ji8wc so if she was to be released on appeal she can come stay with you and your family?
A cold blooded killer.she wasn't shedding tears when she
Murdered her mom. Wanting to show her dead body to her
Friend . Proud of her handiwork. Matricide to the highest degree. Age does not cause me to pity her for her crime.
@@EdithNoorani Carly was bawling 😭 profusely over the step-dad’s police body cam & he was just grazed by a bullet - but was so upset over seeing his dead wife’s injuries (Carly was removing her mom - who she DID NOT she’d one tear over bcuz she was in LOVE 😍 with her step-dad) did he encourage her somehow?? 😳😱
I really truly don’t see a real tear. I truly don’t think she understands the words the people in the court are using. But she is not sad what she did to her mom. That’s the scary part. She shot her mother in cold blood and not even a tear.
How can the jury decide of she is able to be rehabilitated? That's for professionals to decide. She was 14 for gosh sakes!
This is absolutely barbaric I agree!
Her being young is a big deal but she still deserved life. I think most agree. Wished justice always worked and looked like this. Great judge. Great short trial. Justice served!!
The USA has the highest incarceration rate in the developed world yet crime continues to flourish.
Should have taken the 40 year Plea.
Thank God she didn’t
@@MiMi-js5nwabsolutely
This is a brilliant girl with no conscience.
@ritayoung6040 Not THAT brilliant. Dr. Pickett was onto her.
@@Jade_902Dr Pickett was fantastic 👌
You can be intelligent and emotionally I
Mature.
Not brilliant enough to take a plea deal that could have had her out in 20-40 years.
brilliant? because she looks nerdy? and doesn't speak? anyone with a quarter of a brain wouldn't have done this in front of security cameras
I wish that mental illnesses would not be used as smokescreen for juries all the time. Most people who struggle with mental health issues are not violent and they are more likely to be victimised in crimes than perpetrate them.
Exactly!
Agree with you.
I disagree. We know that a huge percentage of prison populations are mentally ill. It is what causes a lot of crimes & it is why the idea of prison doesn’t stop people from committing crimes. The fact that others are mentally ill and don’t commit crimes means nothing. It’s like saying drunk drivers aren’t an issue because most drunk drivers don’t wreck and hurt others.
The issue is that we aren’t willing to look at mental illness in that population and do more to prevent crimes based on those contributing factors.
If we all collectively ignore mental health as a major contributing factor, we can’t fix it. We have a system that can only punish people after a crime & that is a problem.
The drugs Carly was on likely caused all of this, it is linked to suicidal and homicidal behaviors. These drugs aren’t suitable for children. Does that mean she should be free? No. But if we took it seriously we’d be less likely to prescribe to children in the future, perhaps reducing similar incidents. Isn’t that the point? Less crime or do we just enjoy sending kids to prison for life?
Thank you. It seems like the only time mental illness is taken into account is when it’s the perpetrator rather than the victim. That’s not to say it doesn’t matter in a court of law but usually they’re victims and easy targets at that.
Some mental illnesses are caused by childhood trauma. It's a huge factor in psychopathy and addiction. If we actually care about society as a whole, we should be focusing on fewer abused kids.
I don't know what the lawyers were thinking when they rejected the plea bargain. They're Mississippi lawyers. They knew what the verdict was going to be. They really screwed up.
I image Carley's family weighed in on the plea deal. They seem oddly supportive of her. Where is the mother's family?
@@Faretheewell608that WAS the mothers family
The lawyers can’t do much when their client insists. It was a bad decision, but ultimately it’s up to what the client wants.
After watching the video of her coming into the house, she knew what she was doing.
In Mississippi, life is life. She’s done. Life in jail.
good
Unfortunately probably the best place for her.
In Germany life means 25 years and after 2/3 of the time you get parol if your behavior was good.
America has very high/hard punishment and even death panilty, but it keeps nobody away from murdering etc. 😮
No, a minor can not have a sentence of absolute life in the US. Watched a similar case in Colorado. 17 killed deliberately two with additional death of a fetus ( the woman was advanced in her pregnancy ) and he got “life” which actually meant 40 years. He was charged as an adult.
@@FollowingfromafarBooth-jz4jqno her sentence is life without parole
In United States juvenile cannot receive a mandatory lifeveithout parole sentences but can receive with judge discretion
In Colorado is different because every states have its own laws
The defense was terrible. That statement about the stepdad was disgusting
Absolutely disgusting!
It is, but it’s obvious they are reading the live chats, where people are accusing the step dad of being creepy and possibly being the mastermind and inappropriate relationship with her.
What was the statement?
@@RedBone-q2v that her stepdad molests her amd her mom did nothing about it and that's why she killed them. Lawyer then said it was a lie. I felt seething ragebecause I actually lived that. And yet, I and millions of other victims don't commit murder.
I saw a lot of comments about the stepdad acting “weird” and when I saw the video I wondered if Ashley had cameras to keep an eye on the husband and Carly just in case …🤔
I feel the jury got it right!!!
The prosecuter at the end was excellent. I thought the same about her missing school not her mother. It was all about her.
Thank u jury u absolutely got this right verdict n sentencing
I love this Judge no nonsense straightforward and takes no bullsh…. We need more judges like this👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I showed my husband the video, and he said, lock her up. It really is a disturbing video. Having a hard time with this, as a mom.
Me too 💔
It was cold, she knew what she was doing
I was struck by her demeanor when the judge gave her sentence. She was crying when the verdict was read, but was perfectly composed and even nodded her head at the 2nd life sentence. She never once showed an ounce of emotion when her mom was mentioned. This young lady should have taken the plea offer. 🤦♀️
She's not a lady.
She only cried for herself, not for what she did. Anytime they talked about her mom or what she did to her stepdad she never got emotional or cried. She only cried when it involved her, how she was a victim etc etc.
It was a blessing she didn't take the plea deal. It saved other people's lives in the future. She should never ever be free. She will die in prison.
Yes. She was smiling and laughing talking to her attorney after the sentencing.
Her attorney after said she was on medication the whole trial
Hope these verdicts will inform kids that they won’t get away with murder simply due to being teens or kids. Adult crimes adult punishment.
But it never does. There is a mental illness component here and that is the sad state of affairs. Punishment is due and necessary but life without a parole for a 15 yr old who was 14 when she did it? Seems like a no win situation across the board.
I agree with you here, Mr. Tragos: Ms. Gregg's sentence should have included ongoing psychological evaluations and treatments, and possible release depending upon said evaluations and treatments. In Canada, our correctional services follow a rehabilitation model, which gives prisoners daily jobs and sometimes houses 10 people (minimum and medium security) each to a model house, which helps with social skills and autonomy. I imagine it would be very hard for Ms. Gregg to reintegrate, as she will have never driven a car, bought herself groceries or obtained employment.
We are talking about a child a fourteen year old. Their brains aren’t fully developed until they are 24. I can’t believe mental health is taken so lightly. I hope none of you ever have to deal with it. How can anyone determine if a fourteen year old can’t be rehabilitated.
I think it’s now 26yo before the brain is fully developed 🤯. Plus those medications!!
Guns being kept in unsafe places is surely a recipe for disaster. She knew where the gun was and chose to use it, guilty verdict is correct, but again guns being so easy to use is a no brainer.
I just feel that she is old enough to know NOT to use a gun like this. It doesn't take a rocket scientist & victim blaming is wrong
I grew up around guns and never would have touched my parents guns. That said I married a career military man. We had guns but given the age of the kids they were kept locked up and only us had access. That is how it should need. No one other than the gun owners should be able to access them.
Here’s logic: The presence of a firearm in the home measurably increases the chances of a person in that home dying by firearm. That is a fact and a phenomenon, and nothing any of us have experienced or learned or think or believe will change it. Make your choices accordingly.
@@andelorable I have been in a home with guns all my life and no accidental shootings or intentional in over 60 years. I see no increase here. Have always been around many guns.
I want add there were 6 kids and my one brother had some issues and still no issues.
Another parent was just charged with murder because he gave his son an AK 47 to proceed to do a school shooting. I say this needs to move into law
I am not so sure this applies. If a parent puts a firearm in the hands of a child. I agree wholeheartedly, but, in this case mom was scared for her life (obviously from the wrong person) and had a firearm ready for self defense. Very tragic that the very item she had for protection ended her life.
@jenniferc4251 I don't want to victim blame this poor mother. She clearly had tried her best with her daughter.
A trigger lock could have delayed her access and allowed her to tackle her child.
@@jenniferc4251Very sad, because there are gun safes that allow you lock up a loaded gun and open that safe in about 10 seconds in an emergency. This mother was incredibly negligent in my opinion. She didn’t deserve to die, but she most definitely aided in her own murder.
@@jenniferc4251too bad her 14 year old daughter knew where it was and knew it was loaded
@@vitalucas9452but that takes too much thought and Americans don’t think
“It happens all the time when you put kids in the wrong medication” WTH? No it doesn’t.
Yes it does. When your child's doctor prescribes meds think of this girl. Mine committed suicide, instead of homicide. My child wanted to kill her own amazing mother tho.
Agree
Agree
@@RyanSmith-uw2niso sorry 😢 People need to stop believing the lies of pharmaceutical companies and doctors.
@@hanabelle65 And defense lawyers!
Great 👍 job JURY AND JUDGE !!! never ever let this horrible perspn out !!
I'm a mom of a son with severe adhd. I met with specialist and went to medical support groups his entire life. I know if you give an ADHD child a bipolar med and it's not bipolar, you CAN cause a schizophrenic episode it's very well know in pediatrician
Medicine. Which is why they don't diagnose bipolar til a child is atleast 16 yrs old
She was definitely psychotic. And she is on 10mg of abilify which is a really big dose of a mood stabilised and she’s good. I’m really not sure why US courts are so reluctant to look clearly at mental illness
Thank you. What a tragedy all around.
She's just a child...life in prison? That's cruel!
From what I have read if ADHD untreated will eventually turn into other disorders.
@nataliegist2014 not true but it can hold a person back if they aren't aware of their ways of learning
Can’t even fathom that people think you should be able to take someone’s life for no reason and you should ever be free again ever
She was a kid
@@rainaeasley7863 this
@@nikkimclay5474 yep and her victim is dead !!!!!!!!!!! The killer could be 25 the victim is still dead ! 15 or 25 she is a killer
Why is she being treated as an adult?
@@PrideandJoyRupert because she is old enough .
This is where she should be saying to herself I should have listened to my mother.
@sjkaykay5842... and not killed her mother.
Amennnnnnnn
according to her defense attorny today in an interview on a content creators show and said that Carly says she misses her mother and all of that.
@@denben8530 too late now...
@@anthonywilliams9852 for sure. I was just saying what her defense lady said. I didn't watch the whole defense lady just heard that one thing
The evidence proves Carly is a master manipulator and cold blooded killer. Facts don't have feelings!
Yeah, she so manipulative that she fooled a board certified psychiatrist with over 30 years experience, 🐄 💩
Kids don’t have that ability
@@nikkimclay5474 Kids know right from wrong so you are incorrect. Even the 10 Commandments teach "Thou Shalt Not Kill" although Carly was an Atheist which is a whole other story in and of itself.
@@nikkimclay5474have you ever worked with teenagers??? They are capable of more than people realize. Good and bad. Shocks the crap out of be. She is capable, however she may not have completely understood what the outcome would be. Now she does.
@@bamaQT99There is no justification for murder.Tired of hearing lawyers use mental problems to defend criminals, enough is enough.
Totally agree with jury. She is a dangerous person and should be locked up.
I wouldn’t have argued if they had allowed parole as an option after 30-40 years.
To all those thinking that mental illness should have been a component of this crime… I am a diagnosed and being treated for depression & anxiety for about 15 years now. I also have PTSD. I was also married to a horrible narcissist and have a narcissistic mother. Never have I ever never thought to harm anybody, never. This whole mental illness causes this type of aggression is totally ridiculous. Most of us that suffer are very withdrawn, timid, and, afraid of the outside world. I wish these people would stop telling garbage like this and disrespecting and insulting the real ones that suffer from this horrible mental disease. I know other sufferers & they are the same as me. That’s why there’s still a huge stigma around Mental Illness & why we try to hide. Because you all think we’re nuts but we’re not. Most of us have been through a lot & most of us are sensitive, empaths & very intuitive . Which can be really be a curse sometimes.
This girl does not suffer from mental illness. She’s just a monster. You can’t rehabilitate people like this. I’ve known horrible people for decades. They only get worse with time.
Just about every mental health diagnosis-PTSD, Bipolar, OCD, Major Depressive Disorder, etc.-can present with psychotic symptoms. It’s true that the majority of people with these diagnoses are not harmful to others, but there are still people who are. I worked on an inpatient forensic psych unit for people being evaluated for competency and NGRI defenses and I’ve seen people who are without a doubt cold-blooded killers and I’ve seen others who are truly horrified by what they’ve done and others who will never be able to stand trial because they are just gone and not coming back. We (and I say we because I have a PTSD diagnosis as well) can’t demonize others who share our diagnoses with a “If I’m not dangerous then they shouldn’t be either.” There are extremes to every diagnosis that don’t leave people with choices. (None of this is in reference to this particular case…just in general.)
Totally agree with your perspective. She showed little to no remorse except when the verdict was read. She wasn't psychotic, she was angry.
What the heck made her this way though? Yikes.
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I’ve suffered from severe dissociative panic attacks since I was a young child due to every abuse by my mother.
I am 60 now and recently experienced a severe panic attack. Yet, never ever have I ever thought of killing anyone. Shame on this defense. Yes, she’s young and life in jail sounds harsh.
Some lords are just born evil. Had she not done this, she most certainly would eventually.
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I’ve suffered from severe dissociative panic attacks since I was a young child due to every abuse by my mother.
I am 60 now and recently experienced a severe panic attack. Yet, never ever have I ever thought of killing anyone. Shame on this defense. Yes, she’s young and life in jail sounds harsh.
Some lords are just born evil. Had she not done this, she most certainly would eventually.
Want to give my opinion before I hear yours. I am a retired career federal prosecutor. Thought state did a great job and loved the judge. Don’t think there is reversible error as to guilt. BUT…I think it was gross legal malpractice for the defense to not present evidence re: sentencing! Come on! Put on witnesses about adolescent minds, maturity levels, witnesses who love Carly who plead for her, others who know her, etc. Inexcusable and If appellate court doesn’t review it on direct appeal, they will on collateral appeal. I see a new sentencing in her future.
Me too. Her council failed her
I saw numerous either professional failures on the defense side or personal failures where skill training in public speaking would go a long way toward believing the male defense attorney. He sounded unconfident in his client and his position. Why would the jury believe him when he doesn't seem to believe what he is saying. They both ignored Carly crying after the verdict was read before sentencing. They both looked indifferent to Carly and could care less that she was so distressed. Did they not prepare her. These failures are just a few I noticed, not having watch the entire trial. The jury was likely tainted toward Carly by the demeanor of her inept counsel.
I agree. Plus what was the weird crap about how she could have lied and said she was molested?
I agree, they looked totally unprepared when the judge went right into sentencing, they really dropped the ball there, they should have had an expert and I think even have Heath her stepdad testify, something my gosh the fact they did nothing was mind blowing and they could have had Carly speak as well , I'm not sure during this sentencing phase if there is cross examination I don't think there is but I could be wrong, her team looked like they were not even expecting this to roll right into sentencing, I think that was ineffective assistance of counsel for sure. I'm sure there will be an appeal or at the very least her sentence may be deemed wrong and changed or lowered by an appellate court
I think the step dad has a hand in this. Perhaps she wanted him , dabbled , then stepped away. Hence the haircut. The fact she broke that day, being crossed again by friend. If that was the boy who didn't get there, was his saving grace.
I'm more scared of the children of this country more than older people....
I’m very scared of teenagers.
Well duh
I'm not. The vast majority are just normal, regular people.
@@judymurray191ongoing research indicates that the brain of a teenager is completely different from that of a full grown adult or of a preadolescent child.
@@TheSaba2115that’s the reason why parole eligibility should be on the table.
"You'll be ok. I love you." That broke my heart. People forget that if even just one person loves you, that person is serving your sentence too. Your pain is their pain too.
Wow, never thought of it that way.
WE REALLY NEED MORE MENTAL HEALTH PEOPLE.
Every Psychopath in this planet, were all 14 once :o
Yep!😊
Correct!
When Johnny Depp went to court I started watching your channel along with a few other lawyers. I stopped watching theirs. You don’t curse. You make it entertaining. Most importantly you teach me to see from both sides. Thank you Peter from Seattle Washington. My son moved 12 years ago to Hialeah Florida. My daughter in law whom I just adore is Cuban. So it’s nice to visit in Florida but I find it more peaceful here, just a ferry boat away from Seattle. By the way I am bipolar 2 and 61. I was diagnosed at 43. I struggled with mood changes, anxiety, and severe depression since 16. I unfortunately agree with the verdict. I am responsible for my actions and bipolar illness should never be an excuse. I made a lot of bad decisions and hated taking meds. I take them now everyday and will until I end my adventure here. I never had the benefit of counselors or medication or even talking about mental illness. I did what I had to do to survive. It was hard for me and my family. I’ve been married 31 years now. My husband is no angel but very close to it.
I’m 70 I started watching Peter during Johnny Depp as well he’s the only one I have a paid subscription too. I watch trial court coverage with “Recovery Addict” cause I don’t like court tv or law and crime for the same reasons you do, it’s a great platform.
Thank you for sharing your story
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@@Grammichal I love how very blue we are. It shows about how we want life to be better for people wearing red hats as much as we want it for ourselves.
Thank you for covering this case and sticking to the legal aspects of the case. That’s why many of us follow lawyers on TH-cam. Not all TH-cam lawyers cover cases without getting overly emotional and biased.
I have seen people claim he did this in comments and chat, and I agree with you, there is no evidence whatsoever for that. This man is suffering, his attack, subsequent injuries, loss of his wife, loss of his family, willingness to say what was needed to help his step daughter, alienation of some family members on his wife’s side. If there’s anything going on in the home, who knows, the teenage girls boyfriend knows. Why he wasn’t put on the stand is beyond me!
Why in the world would she not have taken the plea deal? They really thought no one would convict a 14/15 year old, I guess.
He’s definitely a no nonsense judge
Watching your Sarah Boone video on TV when this popped up.
Correct verdict. Can’t believe defense attempted this.
Oh Lort what’s that nut job up to now?
That defense atty is a disgrace😡❗️ How dare she make that disgusting statement ref the Stepdad…WTF❓❓❓
She knows a lot of people are making that accusation.
Because they are trying to put in their minds that it was a possibility. Lawyers are all about helping their clients. So on a moral stand, it's bad but they are just doing their job... which they did poorly.
I missed that. What did she say re the stepfather?
What did she say about the stepfather?
@SISSYKAY She made reference that Carly could have said she was being sx abused by the step father as a defense and everyone would have believed her, yet she chose to be truthful and use her mental condition.
Brilliant video. No jargon but also put terminology in context and set "the scene" with each section. I think she fully deserved that sentence. Heinous. Could've waited 4 years, moved out, smoked all the trees in the world. May her mother rest in peace after such a terrifying, heartbreaking, senseless way to die.
First video, new viewer, now new sub!
Time to binge!
I am guessing the step-father was spoken to a lot by the defense and was probably encouraged to not say too much . He obviously is trying to do what his dead wife would have wanted and that is to protect her as much as he could.
Showing mom’s body to her friend! The stepdad is supporting her in memory of the mom!
Incredibly sad all the way around
Justice for Ashley! ❤
Thank you for the updates and breakdowns. It's such a shame to see young people do these horrible things. I cannot see a child as an adult though. The "law" decides at what age a person reaches "consent". If someone is too young to understand and agree to creating life aren't they also too young to truly understand taking a life? If i am presented with a young person and told "this is a child" i will think YOU are crazy if you turn around and say "but now i want you to only see an adult". It should never happen in the legal system. It makes NO SENSE.
Why keep guns at home? Why loaded guns with kids and teens at home? Unbelivable.
That defense comment about the stepdad is unconscionable.
Agree. Making it harder on him as if it could even get harder
No. He should be arrested for leaving a LOADED GUN under a damn mattress when he knew Carly was having mental health issues. He should be in jail!!
I get the impression they didn't (he especially doesn't) know much about mental health/illness, or didn't fully understand it. For example, he wasn't even aware of her diagnoses or specific medications (and as another example, keeping a loaded gun within reach of a mentally ill/depressed teenager). I guess the mother must have told Carly about the gun for her to know about it, unless she went snooping.
Hard to listen to much of any other attorney after discovering you.
Great analysis as always, thank you Peter! 💯
Yeah Peter that wasn’t said in good faith. She shouldn’t have used such an oddly specific example
The expert phycologist was excellent
The jury got it right!! She knew exactly what she was doing that day. May she rot in jail the rest of her life. Ashley, you got justice today.
wow
She should have been tried as a juvenile.
@@geoffpoole483 totally agree
The problem is these kids who kill know what they're doing is wrong but never think full circle of the consequences
TY Jury💯💯💯
Justice for Ashley💔🖤
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This is a public trial, why would that attorney give that horrific alibi for our youth who may want to murder their parents?! OMGosh we're in trouble.
Hate when kids get life without parole. Hate they get prison. Wish we had institutions to actual rehabilitate kids who commit crimes. Not Juvi or Prison. Obviously there should be outliers of just being pure evil evil.
Dr. Pickett did a excellent job! The state did a great job. I loved when the defense attorney tried to be smart to dr. Pickett and said her own stepdad she had a horrified look on her face, like she didn't even know him. Pickett said I don't believe that she called his name 3 times and also texted him from her mothers cell.