It's not a fair comparison between solid axle and independent front suspension, you know that that suspension on this truck is designed for highway driving. To have a fair comparison, you have to bring an offroader with an independent front suspension, such as a G wagon or a hummer or a raptor or maybe a Polaris even it's not from the same category. You are just a fan of a solid axle and you don't 🙈 see any long travel independent suspension. Please show a real example and don't bring a knife to a gun fight
Zr2 vs Gladiator would have been better to be honest, they both have front and rear lockers and are both mid size trucks. Also would have been a better comparison between ride quality and articulation because the Zr2 has those dssv shocks, that are really good off road and on road.
I am very impressed with the Trail Boss. I did not have any confident in G80 but it looks like it doing what it suppose to do. I hope to see more offroad for the Trail Boss. Go Chevy.
@@danielcastorena3057 You mean a lift and wheels & tires makes that Jeep "fully built"? The built part they are likely talking about is the overlanding stuff they added, which isn't about off-roading ability. It could have been a Baja racer, it doesn't matter if they are going over speed bumps.
At around 9:50, the Silverado rear wheel was lifting up more than the gladiator because of the longer wheelbase, not because gladiator has a solid front axle as Tommy stated.
10” longer wheelbase would contribute to it, but the SFA and the rear coil springs in Jee would absolutely be the main reason. Look how the Chevy passenger front wheel isn’t articulating into the fender like the Gladiator did.
Trail Boss is by far the better truck for value, reliability, fuel economy, on and off road driving then any other truck in the segment. That’s why I bought one after doing all the research. Best looking stock truck for stance and look! I’m constantly getting complements and thumbs up on my Black 2019 Chevrolet Silverado LT Trail Boss.
Compare the Jeep to the Bison. This isn't a fair comparison. One is fully modified, the other stock. Level the Trail Boss and throw some 35s on it then do it again.
Not to take sides but trail boss has no lockers, smaller wheel, no sway bar disconnect, much bigger and longer vs a modified Jeep? Not trail manager at all. I say Trail boss wins this test!
Wow, the most impressive thing I saw here was how capable the stock Chevrolet Trail Boss was. And this is coming from a Gladiator Rubicon owner. Well done 💪 💪.
That was my thought. "Wow. That Trail Boss is killing it" Anyone with any off-road experience would expect a built Jeep to slaughter that trail and not even breathe hard. I didn't like the Gladiator when it came out. But it is growing on me.
@@terrencejones9817 ok i found it and also nissan titan made it stock ram rebel made it and a vw. So i guess lifting a 1500 and putting larger tires on isnt very helpful did worse then stock trucks lol.
Very impressed with the Trailboss, it did great kinda funny that he said " I'm already stuck " several times but the truck kept moving forward lol , yall should just change the channel name to TFL Jeep lol throw a lift and some 35s on that Trailboss please
Build the trail boss out already...... icon coilovers, 35in tires, maybe some bumpers. Use the RMT overland truck for reference IMO. Love the work on the channel.
I'm more impressed by how well the stock Silverado did than I am by the modded Gladiator. That said, I love the GobiGlad, looks like a solid base to make an awesome overlanding truck.
Same. If I was buying a dedicated off-roader that can drive down a highway..Jeep. But my money would be on the Trail Boss. Tow a small camp trailer out boondocking. Take the trail boss out exploring then to work on Monday.
When are you guys going to start doing stuff to the Silverado? I’d love to see how the Silverado performs off-road with some Dirtking fabrication UCA’s and some coilovers. Throw a different front and rear bumper on for approach and departure angle.
Sadly, instead of being unbiased, they're getting too much money from Jeep to improve the TB. TFL Truck as long it's a Jeep. The channel should be renamed: TFL JEEP.
They won't do anything to the Silverado, I'm sure they are waiting for the ZR2 version of the Silverado. It's already been proven that a midsized Colorado ZR2 is just as equal as a Jeep, even with a disconnected sway bar.!
@@savagetuner2404 It's very doable, it's 5 hours drive from Denver's airport ... I planned with my friend to meet in Denver and drive back to their place in Orange county on beautiful I-70 and turn down south to Moab too, i believe we can rent stock Wrangler for easy trails at least and see much of the area including hwy 128 next to Colorado River
I grew up just a hop, skip, and jump from Moab. If you take Wranglers you can quite a bit of trails (amazing stiff). While down that way don't forget the other 300 million places with in a short drive. Good luck and enjoy your trip.
How fair! A completely stock off road worthy Silverado 1500 compared to a an off road worthy Gladiator that has been Completely upgraded! How about apples to apples by upgrading the Silverado? Just a thought
Exactly! My comment reflects your exact observation! These clowns think we’ll look and say “oh wow, i’ma buy a gladiaturd instead of my Chevy . As I suggested, because I do have a 16 Silverado that sits on a 7.5” zone on 35/12.5/18’s nitro mud grapplers on metal mulisha rims. At 355hp and 385 torque, driving a bit conservative and taking care of my ride, I think a far diss of chevy by these guys is well ‘un-justified’...
I cannot wait to get a real off-road suspension on my Trail Boss instead of the pucks. I saw a video where the owner put some kings and 35’s on his Trail Boss.
Dallas Ray ya know what I don’t remember! Now I have to go find the video lol. I remember the truck was white and he was hauling butt on some dirt trails.
Too many comments regarding the wonderful Jeep. If I dumped all that money into it I’d tell everyone how great it is too! The Red Beded Stepchild went everywhere, and did it with no love!
Same. I saw a cleaned and detailed black Trail Boss in the Costo parking lot yesterday. I couldn’t stop staring at it. If Chevy had that interior together like Ram, it would be my favorite truck. It’s also a shame that 6.2L upgrade is so expensive too. (Edit: Nevermind about the 6.2 comment. Just looked online, and the difference isn’t bad at all.)
Unless you're a huge fan of convertibles or manual transmissions, the Gladiator is arguably the worst truck you can buy for anything but low speed off roading. I think even these guys would admit that.
Scott Watkins yea your right same here with me Chevy all it needs it’s a better interior... that Jeep is way to expensive it’s not really a truck truck it’s under power to actuality use it as a truck this guys want to push it to be something else but it’s really not but I mean if your a really a hardcore off roader than maybe yes it’s for you (jeep) but for most part the Chevy can holds its own and it’s a real truck
Why don’t you upgrade the Chevy Silverado with the shocks with king shocks up and the front bumper or take the pax truck and test it against the gladiator
I mean I don't drive mine stupid but the things they get "stuck" on are lame. Give it sunr gas, dont slow down in the snow then hit gas again. Come one guys lol
Andre Builds the F250 7.0! Tommy Builds the Jeep Gladiator! Roman hasn't done anything to the Trailboss :(!! Why! Feel they are starting to hate on GM alittle. BUILD THE SILVERADO TRAILBOSS!!!
I disagree, the trail boss is doing what it does best. “Looking the part” while doing every day truck duty. I’d use the trail boss to tow some dirt bikes or a camper down a dirt road, but extreme off road should be left to the Rubicon’s and Raptors.
You can put the jeep on a trailer and the Chevy can haul it, but the jeep could not trailer its own weight. I would run the TrailBoss through that trail for you and I guarantee I would have fun. My jeeps are all louder on the highway than my GMC is, road noise and just so little noise padding on them even the Grand cherry. But I am sure it would be fun to run the jeep around the trails.
One question for you Roman how come you guys haven't done anything to the Chevy. You just did a Chrysler product the ramnow you guys just fixed up a Jeep you guys fixed up a Ford guys haven't bothered doing anything with the Chevy think that's kind of messed up.
In their biased toward Jeep they have sold me on the Trail Boss. Lol. On one of the "I hate my ride" video clip a guy did a leveling kit, 35s, and an exhaust on his trail boss. He stated it improved the rig all around. Why don't they do that? Do some coil.overs and possibly a Torsen LS on the front to match the G80?
Because if they fixed it up just even a little bit then they would see it performs even more amazing. They are really biased I’ve realized, even being biased this stock trail boss did amazing. Sold me on it way more then that keep gladiator. Also the comment on the snorkel was dumb, he said the gladiator just “looks” like it should be there.... bro the snorkel did nothing for you rock crawling 😂
Exactly! They hated on the Gladiator when they first got it. Now it's evidently the shit. LOL, huge negative to start, then positive later, these guys know their ratings game!
Thank you TLF, love the video! Because the trail boss successfully completed the 6/10 trail with minimal scraping or issues, to me, it proves the gladiator and all the modifications you did to it were not worth the money. Jeep is way overpriced and under delivers, unless you spend more money on it, to get it where it should have been from FCA factory.
The trail that they went on is a 6 out of 10 if you don’t take all the optional bypasses and drive all the way through it. The area where they are testing these videos uses the first five or so miles of trail which by most people’s definition are a two or three. How do I know? Because my Jeep barely fit through the areas that are actually difficult on that trail, let alone a trail boss. That all starts around mile 7 if I’m recalling correctly.
That was expected, but the trailboss is roomier and can tow and haul hell of a lot more. If someone is looking for a hard-core offroader a full size truck is not the way to go.
Viewy McViewFace I come from a mudding family I’m getting into trails now. If all 4 wheels aren’t spinning at full throttle and going no where. Your not stuck
LOL I was thinking the same thing I don’t know what his definition of stuck is but when you can still go reverse redirect or give it a little bit more gas and get out I’m thinking OK you weren’t stuck so I don’t know what all that yelling about him being stuck was Maybe it was just to add a little suspense to the video lol
Last Spartan I get that the Jeep May be better off-road I just feel like he was doing it to shit on the Silverado and make the Jeep look like it’s miles ahead of the trail boss but neither vehicle had much trouble
The Chevy is modified from their standard 4x4 truck thus being a Trail Boss. But it is a mild upgrade with 2" lift and 33" tires instead of usual 30-31"". So you can't say the Chevy is stock.
The Trail Boss is a mild off-road package that comes with a 2" level and 32" Duratracks (not 33" like on the Rebel). The suspension isn't off-road tuned, just raised for clearance. Also the locker is auto type, not a E-locker. Either way, that's a stock package, so it counts as stock.
Rightttt. They should’ve bought a Zr2 and built that up same as the Jeep. Kinda pointless to review a stock full size Silverado to a built up gladiator rubicon.
As someone who grew up in Memphis and north MS....if you’re driving on the roads, especially in downtown Memphis where the bridge is, you might as well be driving on an off-road trail.
Maybe they’ll get Andre behind the wheel for the river crossing. Anyone remember the controlled test he did through water in a military Hummer? The water flooded the cab and freaked him out. One of the best TFL episodes!
What is this "I'm stuck!!" "I'm already stuck!" crap from Roman on the same trail they took the Trail Boss down not too many videos ago and they rightly praised its performance and the G80 locker at getting them through obstacles? I guess tailoring the content for the video and trying to create 'drama' in the video where there is none?
Confused? Are you saying if you lift it and put 35s that it would be comparable? Did it magically receive front lockers and a sway disconnect along with solid front axle?
You guys are so lucky to have this time together, my mom wanted all my fathers attention. I’m very happy for you , and she thought all my car nut friends were bums. After years of college I finally did get my own auto shop.
I understand this was not really a comparison since the jeep is heavily modified, but I have never seen 2 guys seemingly hate a truck so much. Makes me wonder why you even bought the Chevy. Also, why not test fuel economy of the Chevy?
The Gladiators look vastly improved when adding a lift. The black steelies and beige/sand colour plus the modest lift really make the truck look way better over stock. The video goes to show the advantages off road of a smaller truck, more so with even a few mods over the stock beast Chevy.
What is not mentioned by TFL is Trail Boss measurements are way bigger! More room for family, gear, towing and every day fun! Length 231.7” Wheelbase 147.4” Width 81.2” Curb Weight 5190 Ground clearance 10.9” Gladiator Length 218” Wheelbase 137.3” Width 73.8” Curb weight 4691 11.6” Standard Ground Clearance but it’s modified to be more then 11.6” So the Trail Boss did exceptionally well for being way bigger truck! Why doesn’t TFL point this out during articulation test and other clearance tests? Chevrolet Silverado Trail Boss is the best choice for on and off roading hands down for this stock truck segment. Aggressive enough for some challenging off roading but yet family friendly for everyday use. Holds its own against aftermarket modified competitors.
Honestly even upgraded id still take the silverado. It does what i need a truck to do as well as can get me around in the overlanding/pasture/hunting whatever i need. If im going rock crawling id choose neither.
So why aren't y'all customizing & taking the TrailBoss on the trip? Just curious. Also love the onx off-road map for my bike trails very nice timer & distance tracker. #TFL
Uh.....GM hasn’t had much better reliability than FCA. The weak rear axle with G80, the cylinder deactivation system that is junk, and the interiors that fall apart. Give me a pre-recession LS motor, those are bullet proof. But new GM? Lacking.
MrJamesLuz I disagree. The new cylinder deactivation is improved, and if you don’t trust it, buy a cheap tuner to get rid of it, g80 is very reliable in my experience if you give it time to lock, interiors are simple and will work if taken care of with leather treatment and cleaning protection. Will be just a good as any other plastic interior on a ford or ram.
Ryan Coates Do you know why all the serious off rotors I know with Chevy trucks switch out the G 80? Because it’s not good to have an axle that locks with wheel speed, especially if you’re actually doing something difficult. The old G80 “gov lock” is famous for one thing, breaking axle shafts.
Also just gonna throw this out there, if you actually check reliability reports, wranglers and gladiators (I’m assuming considering the power train is identical to the wrangler) are very reliable vehicles. It’s the renegade, compasses, and grand cherokees and that are known for having issues and bring down the FCA reliability rating. Feel free to google that.
The new cylinder deactivation is really good! Leading the pack of full size trucks in saving fuel...also my experience with the G80 locker has been nothing but good, my 2020 Ram Rebel on the other hand cant use locker in 2wd and has electrical issues and cant get better than 15mpg with 93 octane...I'll drive the Chevrolet!!
You guys really tried hard to make the trailboss sound disappointing.. but the thing is it went everywhere the jeep did… and guess what the Chevy can tow an 8000lb trailer and haul over a 1000lbs in the bed.. so in my book the jeep is the disappointment..
So you're comparing a modified Jeep to a stock chevy? I have a 2010 Chevy avalanche that'll give that Jeep a run for its money. I just don't understand running a modified jeep against a stock chevy. I also have a modified Jeep wrangler TJ that will destroy that crapiator.
Awesome video guys!!! Y compare the Gladiator to the Trail Boss, seems like a bad comparison. Compare the Gladiator to the Power Wagon, the Power Wagon would beat the Gladiator in every way. 🤘💪
I still am a big fan of the trail boss that G80 did everything it was supposed to do and I know General Motors is going to come out with something just badass like the ZR2 soon
so, 35" tires and a lifted midsize versus 32" tires and no lift full-size is a comparison? im actually impressed how well the Chevy did, with stock tires and no lockers and no lift.
If something breaks? It's a JEEP so something always breaks. That's why JEEP has one of the most comprehensive warranties of any manufacturer. If that jeep makes it cross-country without anything breaking I will be amazed.
That’s insane guys I can’t wait to follow the videos this summer watching the Jeep and the 250 “trimmer” build !! So excited you guys are the entertainment on TH-cam whooo whoooo TFL network
Love this series. I'm hoping to get the mopar lift and 35s on my truck. Watching you guys will let me know what I can expect from my rig when I get it set up. Awesome
The trailboss can fit 34" tires with no trimming and 35" if you trim or remove the mud guards. Makes a big difference off-road with the extra ground clearance.
I've got 37's on my Gladiator Sport S max tow with 4.10 gears and I average 13.1 in town and 17.5 highway. Texas Gulf Coast all flat land driving. Wouldn't change a thing though! I love the look and ride with the 37's. Speedometer is calibrated to correct for tire size as well.
I understand the advantage of an electronically selectable locker and for pure off road it is a better option. but one of the advantages of the G80 is that is will lock up in 2wd, 4hi and 4low. It doesn't make you only do it with traction control off in 4lo. So for those of us the aren't hardcore off roaders and drive our trucks daily, on and off road or tow, the G80 is a really great and proven option.
Couldn’t imagine why the ride almost feels like a raptor it’s not like there’s fox suspension underneath and the ford raptor doesn’t use fox so i rlly couldn’t give you an answer why it rides so smooth
Equip the trail boss similar to the Gladiator, add fox or king shocks, 35" tires and the improvements would be similar to the gladiator + V8 Power! For a stock truck the Trail boss did great! Gladiator looks sweet! Tasteful upgrades. Although I can't warmup to the fender snorkel air intake.
Just a quick point about the warranty thing. RAM has told me they will not cover any parts which break or stop working properly during or as a result of off road use on my Power Wagon. I dealt with this after fording 18 inches of muddy water in my Power Wagon.
Both trucks did great. What an amazing trip you guys will have. The Jeep mods are the perfect balance for both worlds. I must say that the Chevy with minor upgrades would be a great truck off road. Great work guys.
Also you have had the trail boss for six months with no major upgrades....wtf.....then got a ford tremor and go crazy with it just don't look right to me...looks like favoritism in my book....
Good morning TFL!! Love your consistent amazing content!
It's not a fair comparison between solid axle and independent front suspension, you know that that suspension on this truck is designed for highway driving. To have a fair comparison, you have to bring an offroader with an independent front suspension, such as a G wagon or a hummer or a raptor or maybe a Polaris even it's not from the same category. You are just a fan of a solid axle and you don't 🙈 see any long travel independent suspension. Please show a real example and don't bring a knife to a gun fight
Zr2 vs Gladiator would have been better to be honest, they both have front and rear lockers and are both mid size trucks. Also would have been a better comparison between ride quality and articulation because the Zr2 has those dssv shocks, that are really good off road and on road.
I am very impressed with the Trail Boss. I did not have any confident in G80 but it looks like it doing what it suppose to do. I hope to see more offroad for the Trail Boss. Go Chevy.
It would be great to see them.do more with the trail boss.
ZR2
@codyking5612 The ZR2 is just an improved Trail boss but they had to name it something else to get people to buy it
No one screams “I’m stuck” faster than Roman. Give it a chance. Excellent video
That's because he's a wuss. Lol jk
He says it so much over obstacles that are not really obstacles that I'm surprised he can get out of bed in the morning.
"Honey, I'm stuck!"
Especially when he is not in a Jeep. Their bias towards Jeeps has gotten real old.
He wasn’t even stuck and kept yelling I’m stuck. Wtf? They’re going to be bias towards the Jeep too cause all their parts for the Jeep were free
I gave him the over acting award!
Stock Trail Boss for the win.....
Put as much money into Trail Boss as you did the Jeep and see how the it does then.
That Trailboss kept up with a Fully Built Gladiator! Not too bad!
They did not do anything serious, that Jeep was under utilized so the Silverado had no issues either or any other 4x4 would have had.
@@gpaje Thats not the point of the comment!
DC Details in addition to what was said, I would not consider that gladiator anywhere near fully built.
@@danielcastorena3057 You mean a lift and wheels & tires makes that Jeep "fully built"? The built part they are likely talking about is the overlanding stuff they added, which isn't about off-roading ability. It could have been a Baja racer, it doesn't matter if they are going over speed bumps.
@@NuclearSandwich7 you are taking it out of context! I said fully built cause Tommy said he was happy with his built!
My only issue is TFL always puts fully built vehicles vs stock and complain about them lol
They whined the whole time but the Silverado made it through all the obstacles just fine in stock form and out of its element.
The gladiator upgrades were all factory parts
At around 9:50, the Silverado rear wheel was lifting up more than the gladiator because of the longer wheelbase, not because gladiator has a solid front axle as Tommy stated.
10” longer wheelbase would contribute to it, but the SFA and the rear coil springs in Jee would absolutely be the main reason. Look how the Chevy passenger front wheel isn’t articulating into the fender like the Gladiator did.
Nope Tommy was right.
The steel wheels look killer on the Jeep.
Agreed. I'm surprised they look as fitting as they do.
Just started a channel where I take my dodge truck into the mountains of Canada and bag on it. I just want to make some people laugh
It's one of the few modern vehicles that's deal wheels actually look good on.
Trail Boss is by far the better truck for value, reliability, fuel economy, on and off road driving then any other truck in the segment. That’s why I bought one after doing all the research. Best looking stock truck for stance and look!
I’m constantly getting complements and thumbs up on my Black 2019 Chevrolet Silverado LT Trail Boss.
I have a 2020 bright red trail boss with a racing muffler its sounds and looks amazing, people at gas stations comment on the truck all the time
14:01 Roman: "I've got a big tool, and I used it well."
15:01 Tommy: "It's never good being in a bush."
It's never good getting your tools in a bush
I knew someone was going to post this 😂😂😂
Wade “You’ve got a big tool, and you used it well”; said the barmaid to the bishop...🤣
I'd say it depends on who's bush you're going to be in. Having a big tool helps get you in the bush.
Compare the Jeep to the Bison. This isn't a fair comparison. One is fully modified, the other stock. Level the Trail Boss and throw some 35s on it then do it again.
Not to take sides but trail boss has no lockers, smaller wheel, no sway bar disconnect, much bigger and longer vs a modified Jeep? Not trail manager at all. I say Trail boss wins this test!
Wow, the most impressive thing I saw here was how capable the stock Chevrolet Trail Boss was. And this is coming from a Gladiator Rubicon owner. Well done 💪 💪.
That was my thought. "Wow. That Trail Boss is killing it"
Anyone with any off-road experience would expect a built Jeep to slaughter that trail and not even breathe hard.
I didn't like the Gladiator when it came out. But it is growing on me.
Very impressed with Trail Boss!! These are two completely different trucks that are built to do very different things.
I want to see the trailboss do more challenging trail like when they tested the ram rebel and broke that drive shaft. Really teat that thing.
Search the videos. They did it in 2019. The Trail Boss made it too the top.
@@terrencejones9817 any links to it?
@@terrencejones9817 ok i found it and also nissan titan made it stock ram rebel made it and a vw. So i guess lifting a 1500 and putting larger tires on isnt very helpful did worse then stock trucks lol.
camaro camaro ss
Larger and heavier tyres = more stress on parts.
Very impressed with the Trailboss, it did great kinda funny that he said " I'm already stuck " several times but the truck kept moving forward lol , yall should just change the channel name to TFL Jeep lol throw a lift and some 35s on that Trailboss please
Amen. Not pucks. A real lift
Chevy advertises 2” lift on it (same height as Gladiator) less the smaller 33” tires
Someone's butt tie got hurt🤣
not wrong though they have a bone stock chevy vs a heavy modified jeep and wonder why the chevy is "stuck"
Build the trail boss out already...... icon coilovers, 35in tires, maybe some bumpers. Use the RMT overland truck for reference IMO. Love the work on the channel.
I'm more impressed by how well the stock Silverado did than I am by the modded Gladiator. That said, I love the GobiGlad, looks like a solid base to make an awesome overlanding truck.
Not going to lie I’m impressed with the trail boss!!!! Do it for dale
I’ll take the Chevy as the every day vehicle with some occasional off road fun. That Gladiator on road isn’t going to be fun.
I really like the Gladiator and if I spent most of my time in the dirt I’d buy one but for me the Trail Boss is a better all around truck.
Agreed, that's what i got.. i hate the small mid size trucks that's why i traded in my tacoma for a trail boss. no regrets does GREAT offroad.
Same. If I was buying a dedicated off-roader that can drive down a highway..Jeep. But my money would be on the Trail Boss. Tow a small camp trailer out boondocking. Take the trail boss out exploring then to work on Monday.
Nice video. Nice Jeep. Silverado did fine and it is probably easier to live with in the real world.
When are you guys going to start doing stuff to the Silverado? I’d love to see how the Silverado performs off-road with some Dirtking fabrication UCA’s and some coilovers. Throw a different front and rear bumper on for approach and departure angle.
Sadly, instead of being unbiased, they're getting too much money from Jeep to improve the TB. TFL Truck as long it's a Jeep. The channel should be renamed: TFL JEEP.
They won't do anything to the Silverado, I'm sure they are waiting for the ZR2 version of the Silverado. It's already been proven that a midsized Colorado ZR2 is just as equal as a Jeep, even with a disconnected sway bar.!
@@daleliske9757 that comment was a year ago 👍🏻
I understand that. But they have to see a remark, regardless. Lol. Maybe they will see and take note for future reference.
I know this much a Chevrolet will kill any Chrysler product in reliability.
Ok
What a beautiful place, either truck would make a day out there a joy.
I would be glad to just be there
@@savagetuner2404 It's very doable, it's 5 hours drive from Denver's airport ... I planned with my friend to meet in Denver and drive back to their place in Orange county on beautiful I-70 and turn down south to Moab too, i believe we can rent stock Wrangler for easy trails at least and see much of the area including hwy 128 next to Colorado River
@@tallll70 the same here, planning on making it out there this summer/fall
I grew up just a hop, skip, and jump from Moab. If you take Wranglers you can quite a bit of trails (amazing stiff). While down that way don't forget the other 300 million places with in a short drive. Good luck and enjoy your trip.
I know you guys have to use what's available but I think a lightly built ZR2 would have been a much better comparison.
Would be curious to see. I have a stock zr2. havent been able to do much off roading yet
They already done that
Another classic “makes no sense” & “unfair” comparison.................
Also, what a terrible Gladiator build. If they want to make an overlander they should look at what EVO MFG does.
Tommy said it in the video "Apples to Oranges"
But yeah, they should be impressed the TB did it. Lol
I agree!
There's a reason the old man is in Silverado!
I'd take the chevy any day! #bowtietillidie
How fair! A completely stock off road worthy Silverado 1500 compared to a an off road worthy Gladiator that has been Completely upgraded! How about apples to apples by upgrading the Silverado? Just a thought
Exactly! My comment reflects your exact observation! These clowns think we’ll look and say “oh wow, i’ma buy a gladiaturd instead of my Chevy . As I suggested, because I do have a 16 Silverado that sits on a 7.5” zone on 35/12.5/18’s nitro mud grapplers on metal mulisha rims. At 355hp and 385 torque, driving a bit conservative and taking care of my ride, I think a far diss of chevy by these guys is well ‘un-justified’...
dude calm your shit
@@usaf1804 dude, your shit was calm. 👍BTW, Our AF Is #1. Ex F-15 avionics instructor here. 👊🏻
I cannot wait to get a real off-road suspension on my Trail Boss instead of the pucks. I saw a video where the owner put some kings and 35’s on his Trail Boss.
It makes a hell of a difference. I did the same.
Is that the same video the guy put a Torsen LS in the front? His Trail Boss looked awesome he said the lift and 35s did wonders for it off road
Dallas Ray ya know what I don’t remember! Now I have to go find the video lol. I remember the truck was white and he was hauling butt on some dirt trails.
Too many comments regarding the wonderful Jeep. If I dumped all that money into it I’d tell everyone how great it is too! The Red Beded Stepchild went everywhere, and did it with no love!
trailboss is def a better overall truck, especially at the price point and without modifications. imo. I do dig gladiators though.
My grandfather was a dumb man, but these people make him look like a genius.
I’ll still take the trail boss over the Jeep any day of the week
Same. I saw a cleaned and detailed black Trail Boss in the Costo parking lot yesterday. I couldn’t stop staring at it. If Chevy had that interior together like Ram, it would be my favorite truck. It’s also a shame that 6.2L upgrade is so expensive too. (Edit: Nevermind about the 6.2 comment. Just looked online, and the difference isn’t bad at all.)
Unless you're a huge fan of convertibles or manual transmissions, the Gladiator is arguably the worst truck you can buy for anything but low speed off roading. I think even these guys would admit that.
Scott Watkins yea your right same here with me Chevy all it needs it’s a better interior... that Jeep is way to expensive it’s not really a truck truck it’s under power to actuality use it as a truck this guys want to push it to be something else but it’s really not but I mean if your a really a hardcore off roader than maybe yes it’s for you (jeep) but for most part the Chevy can holds its own and it’s a real truck
A Colorado would’ve been a much fairer comparison but the chevy seemed to do just fine.
That articulation difference had as much to do with the chevys lack of a multi link rear suspension as it's IFS, if not more
Why don’t you upgrade the Chevy Silverado with the shocks with king shocks up and the front bumper or take the pax truck and test it against the gladiator
Do something with the Chevy .... TFL don’t like the Chevy trucks ...
@@justfadezbarbershop7263 they like Toyota and Nissan even less.
It would still be far inferior! It doesn’t have a front locker or sway bar disconnects. So...
Yall need to drive that trailboss like a man
I mean... the truck was certainly not driven properly to its strengths, but most of the stupid shit I've seen done off road has been by men, so...
@@Dwealdric yup! Stupid and proud lol
@@Dwealdric yeah, my wife agrees. Lol. But I am damn proud to be stupid....wait. Lol
Exactly
I mean I don't drive mine stupid but the things they get "stuck" on are lame.
Give it sunr gas, dont slow down in the snow then hit gas again.
Come one guys lol
The Jeep might be more capable but my god that Chevy looks good 👍👍👍
Andre Builds the F250 7.0!
Tommy Builds the Jeep Gladiator!
Roman hasn't done anything to the Trailboss :(!!
Why! Feel they are starting to hate on GM alittle.
BUILD THE SILVERADO TRAILBOSS!!!
I disagree, the trail boss is doing what it does best. “Looking the part” while doing every day truck duty. I’d use the trail boss to tow some dirt bikes or a camper down a dirt road, but extreme off road should be left to the Rubicon’s and Raptors.
You can put the jeep on a trailer and the Chevy can haul it, but the jeep could not trailer its own weight. I would run the TrailBoss through that trail for you and I guarantee I would have fun. My jeeps are all louder on the highway than my GMC is, road noise and just so little noise padding on them even the Grand cherry. But I am sure it would be fun to run the jeep around the trails.
TFL is great ... are you guys not doing any upgrades to Trail Boss?
Lol
One question for you Roman how come you guys haven't done anything to the Chevy. You just did a Chrysler product the ramnow you guys just fixed up a Jeep you guys fixed up a Ford guys haven't bothered doing anything with the Chevy think that's kind of messed up.
They don’t like Chevy ... they just got the truck for the viewers ... and it shows they ain’t really doing much to it
The only one that really like Chevy is Andre
In their biased toward Jeep they have sold me on the Trail Boss. Lol.
On one of the "I hate my ride" video clip a guy did a leveling kit, 35s, and an exhaust on his trail boss. He stated it improved the rig all around.
Why don't they do that? Do some coil.overs and possibly a Torsen LS on the front to match the G80?
Because if they fixed it up just even a little bit then they would see it performs even more amazing. They are really biased I’ve realized, even being biased this stock trail boss did amazing. Sold me on it way more then that keep gladiator. Also the comment on the snorkel was dumb, he said the gladiator just “looks” like it should be there.... bro the snorkel did nothing for you rock crawling 😂
Remember when y’all called the tremor a better off-roader than the gladiator 😆
Exactly! They hated on the Gladiator when they first got it. Now it's evidently the shit. LOL, huge negative to start, then positive later, these guys know their ratings game!
He fell out with Ford.
Not apples to apples' use chevy ZR2 for the test WITH 35" TIRES AND ADDED LIFT
Thank you TLF, love the video! Because the trail boss successfully completed the 6/10 trail with minimal scraping or issues, to me, it proves the gladiator and all the modifications you did to it were not worth the money. Jeep is way overpriced and under delivers, unless you spend more money on it, to get it where it should have been from FCA factory.
I agree 100%.
The trail that they went on is a 6 out of 10 if you don’t take all the optional bypasses and drive all the way through it. The area where they are testing these videos uses the first five or so miles of trail which by most people’s definition are a two or three. How do I know? Because my Jeep barely fit through the areas that are actually difficult on that trail, let alone a trail boss. That all starts around mile 7 if I’m recalling correctly.
@@SSMJ If that's true, I have know reason to doubt you, That would make these 3/4 ton off roader even more useless than I thought.
And the over acting award goes to... Roman!
“Journalism”
And also biggest moobs award
I was more impressed with the Trailboss than the Jeep.
funny how when they took the Trail Boss on this exact trail several months ago Roman was kissing it ass. Now it sucks according to him
Everything is relative. It's fine for a stock half ton. It stinks compared to a Gladiator on 35s.
@@mechmat12345 I'd been fine with Roman making that comparison, BUt that's not the case.
Looks like a fun trail! The gladiator looks great! Love the steel wheels and KM3 combo!
That was expected, but the trailboss is roomier and can tow and haul hell of a lot more. If someone is looking for a hard-core offroader a full size truck is not the way to go.
Yells I’m stuck when using 5% throttle. Gives it some gas gets out no problem.
2020trail Boss sometimes 1 more mph makes all the difference
Viewy McViewFace I come from a mudding family I’m getting into trails now. If all 4 wheels aren’t spinning at full throttle and going no where. Your not stuck
LOL I was thinking the same thing I don’t know what his definition of stuck is but when you can still go reverse redirect or give it a little bit more gas and get out I’m thinking OK you weren’t stuck so I don’t know what all that yelling about him being stuck was Maybe it was just to add a little suspense to the video lol
Last Spartan I get that the Jeep May be better off-road I just feel like he was doing it to shit on the Silverado and make the Jeep look like it’s miles ahead of the trail boss but neither vehicle had much trouble
Would love to see the more competitive comparison to the Colorado ZR2.
Not a fair comparison. The jeep is modified while the Chevy is stock.
Not really a comparison, just a shakedown for the Gladiator, they brought the Trail Boss just for fun. They are doing a hard core comparison later.
Did you watch the video? He even said apples to oranges.
Thats the point
The Chevy is modified from their standard 4x4 truck thus being a Trail Boss. But it is a mild upgrade with 2" lift and 33" tires instead of usual 30-31"". So you can't say the Chevy is stock.
The Trail Boss is a mild off-road package that comes with a 2" level and 32" Duratracks (not 33" like on the Rebel). The suspension isn't off-road tuned, just raised for clearance. Also the locker is auto type, not a E-locker. Either way, that's a stock package, so it counts as stock.
Trailboss killed that, even though trucks are typically not taken on that.
Why not compare it to a ZR2 or a Bison?
Because they don't own those. These two trucks are in their company fleet.
Rightttt. They should’ve bought a Zr2 and built that up same as the Jeep. Kinda pointless to review a stock full size Silverado to a built up gladiator rubicon.
@@andyham6094 I agree, it kinda makes no sense in some ways... but the silverado is a good truck tho, I can say that!
Because the Jeep would get picked apart by the bison / ZR2 ...
How about yall lift the trailboss and put bigger tires on there as well
That’s our shop truck. It’s just great the way it is.
@@TFLtruck I agree it's a great truck. But you could upgrade the tires without a lift. They will clear 295/70/18s .
Y'all should take the trail boss on the trip as well. It would be an interesting comparison of stock versus lightly modified.
I say take them both as well. Compare everything down to the amount of gas they used
Can't wait to see how you can cross the Mississippi River going off road.
looks like they're crossing at Memphis at least there's plenty of dirt and gravel as soon as you get across
They’re going to caulk the trucks and float them across the river. Personally I’d Ford the river with oxen.
As someone who grew up in Memphis and north MS....if you’re driving on the roads, especially in downtown Memphis where the bridge is, you might as well be driving on an off-road trail.
He said no asphalt. Never said anything about no concrete (;
Maybe they’ll get Andre behind the wheel for the river crossing. Anyone remember the controlled test he did through water in a military Hummer? The water flooded the cab and freaked him out. One of the best TFL episodes!
What is this "I'm stuck!!" "I'm already stuck!" crap from Roman on the same trail they took the Trail Boss down not too many videos ago and they rightly praised its performance and the G80 locker at getting them through obstacles? I guess tailoring the content for the video and trying to create 'drama' in the video where there is none?
I wasn't a big fan of Jeep Gladiator, but you guys have changed that. I'm really digging what you guys did to yours.
Wheres nathan?
Modify the Trail Boss like you modified the Gladiator and then compare. I would be very interested in seeing the Trail Boss with 35s
Confused? Are you saying if you lift it and put 35s that it would be comparable? Did it magically receive front lockers and a sway disconnect along with solid front axle?
It would be a more fair comparison to give them similar mods.
You guys are so lucky to have this time together, my mom wanted all my fathers attention. I’m very happy for you , and she thought all my car nut friends were bums. After years of college I finally did get my own auto shop.
How has the 3.6 liter V6 on the Gladiator done with the lift and larger tires? I have never been a big fan of that engine.
I understand this was not really a comparison since the jeep is heavily modified, but I have never seen 2 guys seemingly hate a truck so much. Makes me wonder why you even bought the Chevy. Also, why not test fuel economy of the Chevy?
Waiting on upgrades to the Trail Boss, need to see what im going to do to mine....
The Gladiators look vastly improved when adding a lift. The black steelies and beige/sand colour plus the modest lift really make the truck look way better over stock. The video goes to show the advantages off road of a smaller truck, more so with even a few mods over the stock beast Chevy.
What is not mentioned by TFL is Trail Boss measurements are way bigger! More room for family, gear, towing and every day fun!
Length 231.7”
Wheelbase 147.4”
Width 81.2”
Curb Weight 5190
Ground clearance 10.9”
Gladiator
Length 218”
Wheelbase 137.3”
Width 73.8”
Curb weight 4691
11.6” Standard Ground Clearance but it’s modified to be more then 11.6”
So the Trail Boss did exceptionally well for being way bigger truck!
Why doesn’t TFL point this out during articulation test and other clearance tests?
Chevrolet Silverado Trail Boss is the best choice for on and off roading hands down for this stock truck segment. Aggressive enough for some challenging off roading but yet family friendly for everyday use.
Holds its own against aftermarket modified competitors.
Honestly even upgraded id still take the silverado. It does what i need a truck to do as well as can get me around in the overlanding/pasture/hunting whatever i need. If im going rock crawling id choose neither.
So why aren't y'all customizing & taking the TrailBoss on the trip? Just curious. Also love the onx off-road map for my bike trails very nice timer & distance tracker. #TFL
Built offroader vs stock trail boss???
Do a reliability comparison.
Uh.....GM hasn’t had much better reliability than FCA. The weak rear axle with G80, the cylinder deactivation system that is junk, and the interiors that fall apart. Give me a pre-recession LS motor, those are bullet proof. But new GM? Lacking.
MrJamesLuz I disagree. The new cylinder deactivation is improved, and if you don’t trust it, buy a cheap tuner to get rid of it, g80 is very reliable in my experience if you give it time to lock, interiors are simple and will work if taken care of with leather treatment and cleaning protection. Will be just a good as any other plastic interior on a ford or ram.
Ryan Coates Do you know why all the serious off rotors I know with Chevy trucks switch out the G 80? Because it’s not good to have an axle that locks with wheel speed, especially if you’re actually doing something difficult. The old G80 “gov lock” is famous for one thing, breaking axle shafts.
Also just gonna throw this out there, if you actually check reliability reports, wranglers and gladiators (I’m assuming considering the power train is identical to the wrangler) are very reliable vehicles. It’s the renegade, compasses, and grand cherokees and that are known for having issues and bring down the FCA reliability rating. Feel free to google that.
The new cylinder deactivation is really good! Leading the pack of full size trucks in saving fuel...also my experience with the G80 locker has been nothing but good, my 2020 Ram Rebel on the other hand cant use locker in 2wd and has electrical issues and cant get better than 15mpg with 93 octane...I'll drive the Chevrolet!!
Always a great start on Saturday morning, thank you, guys!!
You are most welcome. Thanks for watching.
You guys really tried hard to make the trailboss sound disappointing.. but the thing is it went everywhere the jeep did… and guess what the Chevy can tow an 8000lb trailer and haul over a 1000lbs in the bed.. so in my book the jeep is the disappointment..
So you're comparing a modified Jeep to a stock chevy? I have a 2010 Chevy avalanche that'll give that Jeep a run for its money. I just don't understand running a modified jeep against a stock chevy. I also have a modified Jeep wrangler TJ that will destroy that crapiator.
Awesome video guys!!! Y compare the Gladiator to the Trail Boss, seems like a bad comparison. Compare the Gladiator to the Power Wagon, the Power Wagon would beat the Gladiator in every way. 🤘💪
Cause they are bias. They had the entire build done for free at the dealership.
If only the chevy had been modified....
It still wouldn’t have had good articulation or front lockers. Not sure what you are expecting?
I still am a big fan of the trail boss that G80 did everything it was supposed to do and I know General Motors is going to come out with something just badass like the ZR2 soon
so, 35" tires and a lifted midsize versus 32" tires and no lift full-size is a comparison? im actually impressed how well the Chevy did, with stock tires and no lockers and no lift.
Trail “Assistant to the Manager”
😄 You beat me to it.
Although I think getting a jeep for this was really stupid, I love the idea of the whole group overlanding and cant wait to watch the journey.
If something breaks? It's a JEEP so something always breaks. That's why JEEP has one of the most comprehensive warranties of any manufacturer. If that jeep makes it cross-country without anything breaking I will be amazed.
theylied1776 so will FCA
And if something starts rattling or breaks they'll have to get towed cuz God knows they can't repair anything themselves
Not hard to amaze the ignorant, princess
That’s insane guys I can’t wait to follow the videos this summer watching the Jeep and the 250 “trimmer” build !! So excited you guys are the entertainment on TH-cam whooo whoooo TFL network
Love this series. I'm hoping to get the mopar lift and 35s on my truck.
Watching you guys will let me know what I can expect from my rig when I get it set up. Awesome
The trailboss can fit 34" tires with no trimming and 35" if you trim or remove the mud guards. Makes a big difference off-road with the extra ground clearance.
Come on guys Apples to Oranges. I love both vehicles and have owned both. Put a lift and 35s on the Boss. I’m stuck, lol.
I've got 37's on my Gladiator Sport S max tow with 4.10 gears and I average 13.1 in town and 17.5 highway. Texas Gulf Coast all flat land driving. Wouldn't change a thing though! I love the look and ride with the 37's. Speedometer is calibrated to correct for tire size as well.
Chevy looks better, hauls better, and will definitely be more reliable in the long run. Trail Boss all the way.
How come at 20:30 the Jeep had the rock to land on for the rear. But the trail boss didn’t?
I understand the advantage of an electronically selectable locker and for pure off road it is a better option. but one of the advantages of the G80 is that is will lock up in 2wd, 4hi and 4low. It doesn't make you only do it with traction control off in 4lo. So for those of us the aren't hardcore off roaders and drive our trucks daily, on and off road or tow, the G80 is a really great and proven option.
Couldn’t imagine why the ride almost feels like a raptor it’s not like there’s fox suspension underneath and the ford raptor doesn’t use fox so i rlly couldn’t give you an answer why it rides so smooth
Equip the trail boss similar to the Gladiator, add fox or king shocks, 35" tires and the improvements would be similar to the gladiator + V8 Power!
For a stock truck the Trail boss did great!
Gladiator looks sweet! Tasteful upgrades. Although I can't warmup to the fender snorkel air intake.
Top notch content as usual guys. My favorite TH-cam channel.
Just a quick point about the warranty thing. RAM has told me they will not cover any parts which break or stop working properly during or as a result of off road use on my Power Wagon. I dealt with this after fording 18 inches of muddy water in my Power Wagon.
Any plans for The Boss? As always, great content!
Both trucks did great. What an amazing trip you guys will have. The Jeep mods are the perfect balance for both worlds. I must say that the Chevy with minor upgrades would be a great truck off road. Great work guys.
I live near stuttgart arkansas are yall coming close to there and if yall are when will yall been in the area
That just shows how capable the trail boss is, lol good job on the jeep.
Also you have had the trail boss for six months with no major upgrades....wtf.....then got a ford tremor and go crazy with it just don't look right to me...looks like favoritism in my book....
I would like to see it up against the modified tremor with the carli suspension
How much did you pay for the GLadiator? How much were all the accessories to make it usable? Whats the total cost?