Jeep vs KTM - What's Better Off-Road: Two or Four Wheels? No Pavement Needed (Webster Pass) Ep.7

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  • @Kevin-sr8yx
    @Kevin-sr8yx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Tommy: "Why are they bringing a highlander up here?"
    Also Tommy: "This week, we take a CR-V up Gold Mine Hill!"

  • @R.Nelson
    @R.Nelson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    BEST VIDEO YET!!!..Roman on a bike!!!...I turned this one up FULL BLAST!!Good job Roman!!🏁🏁🏁😃you as well Tommy!!

  • @Buell1906
    @Buell1906 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Go ahead and tell us about your motorcycles. I wasn't bored!

    • @Humble_saint
      @Humble_saint 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ik I was actually listening to his story before tommy cut him off

    • @DaleEarnhardtsSeatbelt
      @DaleEarnhardtsSeatbelt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes this! I don't think they realize I alot of us watch truck videos for fun and for a new toy to haul our toys! I loved the bikes being featured.

    • @Flying_Dollar_Motorsports
      @Flying_Dollar_Motorsports 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah I just picked up a used WR450 so I was interested in where that story was going. Geez Tommy.

    • @CommieHunter7
      @CommieHunter7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We love bikes!

  • @bwarren228
    @bwarren228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I want to hear the rest of the list of motorcycles. Maybe pick up where Tommy cut you off!

    • @ruimachado8560
      @ruimachado8560 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yea...and the stories too

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have in previous videos suggested that Roman do more of this. And those in the TFL crew that are motorcyclists. Plenty of us that have done the 2 wheel adventures on and off road can relate to their stories.

    • @sourabhpurohit4140
      @sourabhpurohit4140 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WW-wf8tu totally agree with you man

  • @shawntaylor1655
    @shawntaylor1655 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video, I love that you added the bike. I am a motorcycle enthusiast and glad you incorporated the bike. I would love to see more in the future.

  • @woffordsoverlandjourneys8618
    @woffordsoverlandjourneys8618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Some people never think about deep descent from mountains and Slick to rain in which the truck would probably have the advantage!! Didn't know Roman could ride a dirt bike he is really a man of many talents!!!!

  • @carramrod7378
    @carramrod7378 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The cinematography has really improved

  • @rik999
    @rik999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    11:39 - Hey Tommy a some of your viewers are avid motorcycle and mountain bike riders. Don't be so closed minded. Alex and Case on your staff ride bikes too.

    • @ffl1409
      @ffl1409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Y’all know it’s scripted right?

    • @rik999
      @rik999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ffl1409 Yes, probably true. But why antagonize your viewers, especially Patreon subscribers?

    • @minivanmaster
      @minivanmaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think anything Roman talks about is interesting..... but yeah it's mainly meant for TFL's Offroad youtube channel now

  • @Digidi4
    @Digidi4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love it
    next time you guys should do the same trip with the suzuki samurai and an old 125cc dirt bike

  • @freedomisntfree_44
    @freedomisntfree_44 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Ktm would be waiting at the top of the mt before the Jeep even started 👌🏽

  • @texnorthman
    @texnorthman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    For the ABS - get the enduro dongle. At least on my 2019 690 that allowed the bike to be set in off-road ABS mode, reduced intervention in the front and no intervention in the back. Nice combo and you don't have to reset it every time you stop the bike.

    • @nateirvision9266
      @nateirvision9266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, this is the correct way to go!

  • @SWAMPDONKEY662
    @SWAMPDONKEY662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A dual sport addition to the channel would be pretty sweet! There are dual sport clubs in every state. We just had a ride in Mississippi called Pigs in the Forrest.

  • @CleaningMyGun
    @CleaningMyGun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The high video shots from your drone are spectacular. And Tommy, there are a lot of us who ride and love trucks AND bikes.

  • @kevinblock2307
    @kevinblock2307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video guys - loved the “ok I’m boring you” comment to Tommy 😀

  • @thwong37
    @thwong37 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    next time partner up with some more TFL riders like Alex (can Kase ride?); be cool seeing all the other off roaders/ATV/EV bikes etc.. Awesome seeing Roman step out his comfort zone, and start riding again. Thx Tommy NJ

  • @cbrider6267
    @cbrider6267 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video. I'm living vicariously watching content of this channel.

  • @dommm111
    @dommm111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent video, I really enjoy it. Landscapes r breathtaking. Next year u have to do the original trip across the country, it will awesome

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes6507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No Tommy, you are NOT a weenie,..but if you are I am with you,..anything over the reach of a 20 foot ladder, and I melt!
    Most enjoyable video,..and while I think of myself as a 'Car Truck Nut',.I also like 'Bikes'...so this video covered all the base's,...Thanks Guys!

  • @BenLeBlanc1
    @BenLeBlanc1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice video. A dirt bike is a pretty affordable way to get into the hobby. Maybe KTM isn’t the best example of that, but still

    • @michelt4390
      @michelt4390 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The newer 690's are much more reliable (and less maintenance intensive) than the older KTM's

  • @chuckgrenci6404
    @chuckgrenci6404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Some people ask me, why do you ride a motorcycle, and I say: If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand.

    • @ES44AC-2
      @ES44AC-2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well said sir! Love motorcycle's.

    • @generation-x406
      @generation-x406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I say, because bugs are tasty 😋

    • @chuckgrenci6404
      @chuckgrenci6404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KLRJUNE Raced moto-cross in the seventies, currently on an FJR-1300 (but it really isn't what you ride, it's because you want to); enough said, or should I elaborate.

  • @knobbiesshreaded3137
    @knobbiesshreaded3137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had the 690 when it first came out, it was a blast. Fast and a true Billy Goat. Yeah, water crossing can be an adventure, not so much when the water is clear and you can see the bottom. I think the Jeep gets an advantage as the rocks get bigger and weather turns nastier. Nice vid!

  • @georgegopiao4411
    @georgegopiao4411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This episode is, by far, my favorite. I ride a KTM 1290 Super Adventure R and I drive a Jeep Gladiator as well. I enjoy both so please don’t make me choose which one I prefer. Keep up the good work, guys!

  • @tireguymiami4911
    @tireguymiami4911 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are my favorite TFL videos, Jeeps in the Rockies, yes!

  • @SierraADV
    @SierraADV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's so cool how you took a built jeep and a dirt bike on a dirt road. They handled that dirt road so well!
    Just for fun, you should take them both off road some time.

  • @bmwloco
    @bmwloco 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reminds me of my time in New Zealand. I was near Mt. Cook. Riding a R100GS BMW. Sign says "no rental cars beyond this point".... next sign says "we really mean it, no rental cars" and as it got higher and rockier, I kept riding as far as I could and came upon a Sobek van. Looking over the berm, I saw the glacial water in electric blue among the basalt (black) rock. Amazing. A moment or two later, I guy behind me says "how did you get up here?!" I said "rode my bike".
    He said "I paid over $2500 for the same experience with Sobek. I laughed and rode on.

  • @TubaSteve369
    @TubaSteve369 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favorite episodes! I've been a long-term subscriber for over 6 years on all channels.

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching

  • @stout_tossme7541
    @stout_tossme7541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apples to Oranges.
    Great video. I used to have a bike and ride often. But comparing the two is like comparing the Highlander to the Gladiator. Of course, the bike is going to be fast. More adrenaline and just a blast.
    I am glad y'all made the bike channel. We get to see more of them.
    I enjoyed this video more than I thought I would.

  • @JDelta87
    @JDelta87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would’ve liked to hear you talk more about your past bikes!

  • @desertaliend_b9840
    @desertaliend_b9840 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hell yeah. Roman on a motorcycle! +100 guys points for you 👍👍👍

  • @jamescharles8663
    @jamescharles8663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoy these videos ! Continue to have fun and be safe .

  • @chandrachurniyogi8394
    @chandrachurniyogi8394 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you son & father duo is just perfect!!! i wish i could do the same with my father!!!

  • @brianengineering9001
    @brianengineering9001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I gave up the 4x4 and went full tilt single track decades ago to maximize adventure and minimize cost, I don't regret any of it.

  • @kensnyder2340
    @kensnyder2340 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I've ridden & 4 wheeled Red Cone, Webster, Radical hill many times.

  • @markabram2257
    @markabram2257 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have that same KTM 690R. Great bike! Shopping for my Jeep Gladiator now. Keep up the great work guys, I love the channel. :)

  • @rickwhitmire7933
    @rickwhitmire7933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow Roman you are the man!! Nice bike!! quiet the ripper!!

  • @woolengrappler
    @woolengrappler 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you’re looking to explore light, fast and cheap, a dual sport is the way to go. If you live father away from good trails you can even trailer, or load the bikes in your truck bed for the best of both worlds, use your truck to cover highway miles and use the bike for the off road miles. The biggest downsides of the bike are lack of storage capacity and inability to carry multiple passengers like family and friends for trips.

  • @ruimachado8560
    @ruimachado8560 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video...love the 2 wheels content...and love MX

  • @AnN-py2em
    @AnN-py2em 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    lol I just cracked a rib, laying down right now couldn’t sleep well lol. Crazy how hard I could fall when I was younger and never get hurt, now.... not so much.

  • @GabrielTeixeira91
    @GabrielTeixeira91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A Jeep Gladiator is not a choice for many people, motorcycles are the affordable way to go off road.

    • @michelt4390
      @michelt4390 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And should you get yourself stuck somewhere... no need to call Matt's Towing!

  • @ricwestdoesitwork
    @ricwestdoesitwork 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! I will stick with 4 wheels though and just like Tommy food, drinks and A/C are the way to go for me anyway.

  • @shawntaylor1655
    @shawntaylor1655 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I also second the TFLMoto below.

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Our new channel is TFLbike. Check it out!

  • @texlee84
    @texlee84 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The bike almost always wins off-road. It's three to four times faster, more nimble, more efficient, has a smoother ride, it's more rewarding due to effort, and I truly believe that you take in your surroundings and the overall experience more on two wheels than you do on four. I always choose the enduro/dual sport/ADV bike over the 4x4. I hope to see more two wheel off-road content on this channel in the future, but odds are they will just make an umpteenth channel for it instead lol.

  • @galacticnova85
    @galacticnova85 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am thoroughly loving #nopavementneeded
    Glad to see "dad" being safe and atgatt

  • @badgerpa9
    @badgerpa9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Give Tommy a juice box and granola bar and tell us about the bikes you had, I was not bored. I had bikes but not the ones you have mentioned. Tommy is being pretty safe though that makes it easier to actually drive back home; not break something. Tommy should look at the electric motorcycles there are some dirt bike types that he may like and you can carry a spare battery to get back out pretty easy.

  • @wade7959
    @wade7959 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed the content. Good job at the part of the trail with some pucker factor!

  • @carlov.3017
    @carlov.3017 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    NICE!!!! Roman on the Enduro!!! More motorcycles!

  • @UltraSS-nj8kd
    @UltraSS-nj8kd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dirtbike is way better to me. But Roman nailed it have to ride with other bikes it even hard to ride with other quads or SxS either. Need to do a long term on the ktm 690 i have all the strict off-road enduro ones but looked at the 390 duke but worried about reliability

  • @derek82ln7
    @derek82ln7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video guys. Way to go Roman!!!!!!!

  • @callutton178
    @callutton178 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t underestimate the highlander. My family and I made it up to the top of Webster Pass a few years ago in a Highlander Hybrid with no issues except a dirt biker pulled up alongside, lost his balance, and dinged the door.

  • @rickyloganjr.2362
    @rickyloganjr.2362 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tommy, I too 🙋🏽‍♂️ am no fan of heights, I truly understand where you're coming from, not a weenie friend. I watched this episode on my TV, but to actually be on that shelf road, nope not for me, none of that. Spectacular area around you though 👌.

  • @CraigG21
    @CraigG21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet bike - I have a 2014 that looks very similar!

  • @AlexLoVecchio
    @AlexLoVecchio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not boring at all tommy!

  • @chongorlz9716
    @chongorlz9716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More dirt bike content please!!! Great video guys 👍🏿👍🏿

  • @chefdan87
    @chefdan87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im in the middle. I prefer 3 wheels. I'll take a Honda Big Red 250 over just about anything. I've had several dirtbikes and 4x4 atvs and my fullsize offroader is a 94 Bronco. But i have never had as much fun with any of those that i have on my Big Red. Its the only one that i have never sold and replaced.

  • @drgruber57
    @drgruber57 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I'm glad I have a Gladiator". 14:02 Clever!

  • @jyharris
    @jyharris 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great episode of no pavement needed.

  • @jaytate491
    @jaytate491 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been giving serious thought to the trans America trail or the continental divide trail on a motorcycle. I'm torn on the best bike to get. I've giving some thought to the KTM but worried about reliability over thousands of miles away from the rest of the world.

  • @efs83dws
    @efs83dws 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Roman, good job on the bike. Obviously you are experienced.

  • @CommieHunter7
    @CommieHunter7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see the 690 vs a fast off-roader up red cone. The 690 would slay! Speed off-road is almost always the domain of the dual sports.

  • @jjustj
    @jjustj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    10 min in, " ride with other dirtbikes" we had trials bikes in Moab loved going with friends in a jeep as they could be our sherpas and take all the food for lunch and water etc. sure we waited for them but with Trials bikes its easy to play while you wait, did i mention added fuel they would carry for us? 18 miles about per tank isnt alot. Ride on, or Jeep ON!

  • @sourabhpurohit4140
    @sourabhpurohit4140 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely agree with Roman, motorcycles are faster and more fun and involving

  • @mbjeepcherokee5542
    @mbjeepcherokee5542 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dual sport FTW! Way more fun than doing that in the Jeep.

  • @humbertogonzalez7505
    @humbertogonzalez7505 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Roman’s gotta put Tommy in his place and show him who’s in charge! I wanted to hear more about Roman’s motorcycle stories.

  • @polkm7fromps3
    @polkm7fromps3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you think about the gladiator vs the disco II since you've driven both? I'm considering selling my gladiator to get a disco II for overlanding and offroading.

  • @josea5949
    @josea5949 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video guys. Tommy, for being afraid of heights, you live in the wrong state. And Roman, keep those feet on the pegs or you're break a leg, ankle or foot. Been there and done that.

  • @WW-wf8tu
    @WW-wf8tu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well there you have it. The content I have been waiting for. Well done all around. :).

  • @backroadreviews7353
    @backroadreviews7353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It just seems if you're going off road that a motorcycle or ATV is the better choice especially in the eastern US. I don't understand the excitement of putting along in a big Jeep/truck of any kind.

  • @estarszak
    @estarszak 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    sweet video guys. I ride a Suzuki DRZ400 and drive a Titan. I'll be on the DRZ anyday. In my neck of the woods...try the Transfer Trail. peace out

  • @kevinvoyer5053
    @kevinvoyer5053 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t care what you say a good even street legal dirt bike can go places the best street legal 4x4AWD will ever go! I spent 2 years 6 months at Ft. Carson in Colorado Springs, where I got to take advantage of hundreds of miles of wilderness trails, old mine switch back trails, all between Manitou Springs to Cripple Creek, Victor, CO. On the other side of Pikes Peak and Cheyenne Mountain. Where some of the trails were actually 4’ across, with a hill on one side going up at a 40-45% hill, to on the other side a 500’ drop to the next tree/rock to stop you! Especially on that bran new state of the art dual purpose bike! Hell back in the mid 70’s, I was actually riding that bike grand dad! That was called a Penton 125 ISDT, barely legal on the street, but one of the best trail bikes made back then.

  • @dookiebooger9967
    @dookiebooger9967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always wanted to see a top gear style race with a dirt bike vs a rally car vs a monster truck

  • @daveloderhose874
    @daveloderhose874 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tommy I’m with ya I’ve done a fair amount of mountain driving on pavement on a Harley and never totally gotten over my fear of heights ( may be a little)

  • @evankatz2893
    @evankatz2893 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another superb video By Mica @Mica All The Best To you Both. Evan From New City N Y The Empire State!

  • @stefanhansen5882
    @stefanhansen5882 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome episodo! I am trying to decide whether to buy a bike or a 4x4 for a road trip around Europe, some of it with a passenger. Would it have been possible to ride the bike where you went here with a passenger on the bike? Thanks!

  • @mavric1177
    @mavric1177 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the comparison!! just picked up a bmw f850gs and would love to see yall take an adventure bike up these trails!

  • @75pontiac45
    @75pontiac45 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoy these, keep em coming! Gives me places to take the Jeep I am one day going to purchase

  • @jneis1497
    @jneis1497 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another awesome video!

  • @alex_707
    @alex_707 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tommy doesn't like motorcycles! 😱
    I know who's my favorite host out of the two now

  • @denisbrisebois7658
    @denisbrisebois7658 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always Tommy & Roman 🙌🤘☝️👌👍.

  • @exoplanetnomad
    @exoplanetnomad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haul a KTM 6Day 300XC-W on my Jeep WK2 TrailHawk ... no other two brands go together like the Jeep and KTM!

  • @josemopar708
    @josemopar708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's up guys...
    so did you guys order the new Illinois truck or suv RIVIAN?

  • @nm-qt2hb
    @nm-qt2hb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK been meaning to go visit the south west someday soon. With all of these crazy places that you guys have been posting? I may just spend a few days driving Colorado? Nice job TFL.

  • @holmesqualityproducts
    @holmesqualityproducts 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adding the Enduro was a nice change of pace

  • @allanmoulton3745
    @allanmoulton3745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A bit of unnecessary drama there, bud. For most of the descent, driving close to the edge when you have 5 feet on the inside.

  • @destinjacobs9414
    @destinjacobs9414 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it's pretty badass that roman rides bikes

  • @atfsgeoff
    @atfsgeoff 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Venn diagram of people who dig trucks and people who dig dirt bikes has a surprisingly large overlap

  • @newbwheeler9777
    @newbwheeler9777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tommy you’ve put quite a few miles off-road on the KM3’s now. How are the holding up? Have you noticed them chunking or getting loader on road?

  • @bettymaverick1098
    @bettymaverick1098 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looked like a real hard trail as a Highlander and Subaru passes you. The cycle looked like fun.

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      FYI: sorry to disappoint but the Subaru and Highlander turned around at the start of the trail😉

    • @bettymaverick1098
      @bettymaverick1098 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TFLtruck LOL

  • @oscarbear7498
    @oscarbear7498 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 2 favorite things jeeps & bikes

  • @DarthDainese69
    @DarthDainese69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m gonna have to stop this (ipad) and watch it on my tv
    I own a 2019 Multistrada Enduro, all I’d have to do is put a more off road tyre on and I’d be set

  • @MrBoomer513
    @MrBoomer513 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    much better Tommy. thats more of the attitude I expected.

    • @MrBoomer513
      @MrBoomer513 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      nevermind commented to soon. better but twice you cut your father off. both times I was interested in what he had to say. 😒

  • @duncdunc76
    @duncdunc76 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My take. There's a good bit of crossover between truck owners and motorcyclists so the addition of the moto was ok. And although anyone who does both my think the comparison was silly, any newby might find it interesting. Anyhow the vid content fits within TFL truck considering that your comparing a truck to the bike in terms of off road prowess and usability/versatility imo.

  • @Riezig
    @Riezig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    More motorcycles!

  • @tireguymiami4911
    @tireguymiami4911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want to hear about the bikes, come on Tommy !!!

  • @jamesprice3423
    @jamesprice3423 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dual sports are great, More moto content please!

  • @상설짱
    @상설짱 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it !!

  • @CommieHunter7
    @CommieHunter7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't smack talk the crossover/suv crowd! I wanna encourage folks to explore with the gear they have. People should know their vehicles limits, and ideally not get stuck and block the road, but most vehicles will get people to a lot of trailheads, a lot of mountain views.

  • @kingpin3919
    @kingpin3919 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome guys

  • @weekendwarrior8179
    @weekendwarrior8179 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @11:45 thanks Tommy

  • @destinjacobs9414
    @destinjacobs9414 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Y'all should leave some geo caches on some trails too