FR, how do you think it is a good idea to call for a tow and get rid of essential parts? And these are supposedly car people! They lose their enthusiast cards.
I know, let’s brake down on the trail and remove critical parts that you might need to get the vehicle off the trail! Like everyone has said, Matt tremendously awesome patience and professionalism!
No defense of the guys attitude, but he is prob pretty frustrated and I'll bet Matt has seen his fair share of people with misplaced anger. We can all take a lesson from Matt and his team.
@@DrTheRich Probably thought it was repairable somehow, at the beginning Matt says they think they're going out to repair the car. Anyway, dude cheered up a lot by the end. Like someone else said, just seen his baby destroyed, probably spent hours trying to fix it only to eventually realize it's all wasted effort.
Wow!! Matt's professionalism REALLY showed thru in this video. Its obvious there was quite a bit of editing due to the customers inability to filter his mouth/thoughts and a HUGE lack of humility; a little goes a LOOOOONG way! I tip my hat to you sir! Were it me out there rescuing him, he'd have got a piece of my mind and very possibly left on the trail where he was found.....
I agree but a bit more food for thought. It costs Matt time and money to make it all the way there. No way he's not going to try even if there is bad attitude from the customer. Though I'm sure Mat has a point where you can't pay him enough to do something. Still money aside, I feel Matt is a "better man" and would help anyone even if it was to give the man his classic work shirt off his back. He knows people are what is important. You don't get friends like he has with out knowing that. You see it all the time with his interactions with Ed, Lizy, his kids and well practically everyone who's worked with or for him.
I didn't think he had a crummy tude, even for a guy that had been broken down in the middle of nomans land . Really i didn't sence any tde at all, he simply stated that the shocks had been taken away, without giving any reason. Which is and was strange to me. What the heck were they thinking 🤔 I can only guess that they were trying to get new parts or fix the broken ones 🤪
I understand how easy it is to judge a situation from afar, but it breaks my heart to read these hurtful and off-based comments about Danny. I had the pleasure of meeting him during a Gambler 500/Sons of Smokey cleanup recently. He is beloved in the community and notorious for going out of his way to help folks on and off the trails. He is an incredible mechanic, and not afraid to send it. I trailed behind him as he took this manual mustang 2wd OPEN DIFF through Hells Revenge in Moab- no problem. You can see it on the gambler page, it was wild to witness! From what I’ve heard he was mid-repair when someone ELSE called Matt. All I see here is a guy communicating why certain methods would or would not work based on what he knows having built the car himself. And look at what a great solution they came up with because of it!
@@Wholesomeashell yes ,i don't know anyone here personally...and after this comment i had to rewatch the whole video cause i didn't recall any crummy attitude. And i again witnessed none. Some people see things and get it wrong in their minds eye i guess.
I couldn’t have done it without pitching a big fit then leaving him there. Kudos to you and Tom for being able to keep your cool. My blood pressure was up just listening to his attitude.
The Gambler 500 was started in Oregon by a group of guys whose lives changed from being "best friends who always hung out and did everything together" to "all having started their own families and never getting to see eachother" so they all got their own $500 car and drove 500 offroad miles across Oregon tackling some pretty rough terrain.
I hear the ring of a saying like "Doesn't mater the road you take, it's always better with friends. Just don't lead them down bad roads and everything is better ". So who did they call when something broke down to clean the wreck when it wasn't able to go any further? Clearly not Matt =P
Working overtime to make HIS problem EVERYONE’S problem. WHAT a COLOSSAL JERK! He clearly needs a double dose of humility heaped with a generous serving of gratitude. Maybe he will read some of these comments and at least TRY to mend his pathetic ill-mannered behavior.
There is a common sense rule that you don't give away parts of car that you want towed. Would be a deal breaker for me. What did he think Matt could do? Fly in a helicopter to collect?
Performed my 1st off-road recovery this past Monday and I was fully prepared from all the years watching this channel. Came across a family in a Ram 2500 stuck on the ramp 4 beach access at Cape Hatteras National Seashore. Soft Shackle and a quick tug with a kinetic rope with my Titan and everyone was on their way.
That little samurai they have now is basically one. I have a gambler made out of a 03 Sunfire, honestly best car I've ever owned. Small but very capable, surprisingly so. FWD and have driven though 4ft of snow and didn't slow down.
That was and unusual recovery. I thought for a minute that the guy was going to run you out of options and you'd have to leave the car sitting like you found it! LOL!! Patience prevailed and it was a successful recovery!! Great work Matt and Tom!!
i noticed he calmed down a lot and was way more polite once teh vehicle was down. i can't imagine how stressed he was. personally i thought he restrained himself pretty well, it could have gone a lot worse
@@electrontube You totally nailed it. Seriously, who builds a Gambler or any off road rig without welded in recovery points and reinforced bumpers? It's a ghetto-fabricated heap of crap, of course it's going to break down eventually. Scrap steel is cheap, get a welder and figure it out. Don't blame others for your lack of preparedness. Don't blame the guy with the wrecker, he's there to Un-F the situation you got yourself into to begin with.
Big lesson here for car builders. .. Make sure to have hard points at the ends for pulling and lifting.. Maybe even some side attach points would come in handy too, for dragging sideways when needed.
The joke who broke it is so damn demanding, his attitude was so amazing, made it seem like everybody there owed him somthing. He drove that pile in so he should be a bit more grateful to people like Matt for getting it out! Great job on putting up wit such an ahole
Nobody wants to be broke down on a trail ... sometimes frustrations run a little close to the surface ... in the end, everyone was happy! Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
This guy clearly knew what he was getting into. This wasn't a dude and his family in a rental car. It is as a custom built vehicle that failed. He should have known it would happen eventually. No excuse
I understand how easy it is to judge a situation from afar, but it breaks my heart to read these hurtful and off-based comments about Danny. I had the pleasure of meeting him during a Gambler 500/Sons of Smokey cleanup recently. He is beloved in the community and notorious for going out of his way to help folks on and off the trails. He is an incredible mechanic, and not afraid to send it. I trailed behind him as he took this manual mustang 2wd OPEN DIFF through Hells Revenge in Moab- no problem. You can see it on the gambler page, it was wild to witness! From what I’ve heard he was mid-repair when someone ELSE called Matt. All I see here is a guy communicating why certain methods would or would not work based on what he knows having built the car himself. And look at what a great solution they came up with because of it!
Having worked in the medical field you have to keep compassion in mind because you are dealing with otherwise good people in a stressful situation. I'm sure the same applies to situations like this. Enjoyed the video.
EnerGy Jack you nailed it! It is about being the best person you can be regardless of the circumstances, Matt and Tom Tom conducted a world class training session for us all.
I understand how easy it is to judge a situation from afar, but it breaks my heart to read these hurtful and off-based comments about Danny. I had the pleasure of meeting him during a Gambler 500/Sons of Smokey cleanup recently. He is beloved in the community and notorious for going out of his way to help folks on and off the trails. He is an incredible mechanic, and not afraid to send it. I trailed behind him as he took this manual mustang 2wd OPEN DIFF through Hells Revenge in Moab- no problem. You can see it on the gambler page, it was wild to witness! From what I’ve heard he was mid-repair when someone ELSE called Matt. All I see here is a guy communicating why certain methods would or would not work based on what he knows having built the car himself. And look at what a great solution they came up with because of it!
Good job being patient with the customer. Wrecker functioned perfectly. The Mustang owner learned a valuable lesson on the weaknesses of his design, and vehicle selection.
One thing that surprised me. Once you took the bumper off, that car had a brilliant lifting point. Maybe that method will be used a bit more in the future.
Only if the frame is exposed. Some cars/trucks that "lifting point" could give or now be bent. That could be "the bumper" instead of that plastic piece removed and most cars now the bumper is ment to give to protect the people. It's why Matt doesn't like to hook onto them as he's learned they are not cheap to replace =P Still I agree with you Dave, when you are tossed lemons you make lemonade.
You have the patience of a saint Matt! I would’ve left mustang guy high and dry I get he’s frustrated but cmon guy take a breath breaking it and recovering it is part of the fun
Blankie Man and Untied Shoes were nay saying and ego slaying...Matt was just like I'll give you a lift and an education. What a true Wrecker Operator. Been there.
So the mustang owner might have been a bit rough on the video, but I'm absolutely confident he is exhausted, possibly hung over, and spent probably the last 15+ hours either bouncing around in that rig or trying to fix it. Plus. Although he was negative, it was for good intentions. He didn't want the rig to fall off or become another problem halfway off the trail. I know Danny, he's a great guy. These Utah gamblers are an amazing group and helped me when I was in need when I went on one of their events a year or so ago.
Coilovers were removed to prevent damage to them, as someone indicated the replacement cost per coilover is approximately equal to the value of the entire car unmodified. Prior to Matt's arrival the intention was to place the rear of the Mustang onto the Van Flatbed and tow it out that way. In the shuffle of preparing for the mustang to be towed out the coil overs were placed in another vehicle to be returned to camp. That vehicle left a couple minutes before Matt arrived. Danny (the customer) does have a strange demeanor but a heart of gold. The video doesn't show all the joking around and humor. That mustang build was the culmination of years of work and trial and error, damaging it by being incautious would be heartbreaking. The bingo card was part of the event, helping a broken down gambler was one of the spots on the card that's why I insisted it be given to Matt. My 2¢. I was the man with no name (costume I wore for the event)
Thanks for the context… I work in retail when people treat me like that I try to remain respectful and positive but sometimes I also get frustrated and I know my customers can tell so I try really really hard to remain calm and respectful like Matt. Also nice poncho
if Merlin and Chad and Paul and Matt did the Gambler on one or two cars they would have a ton of fun and they could support each other. it would be one for the ages that's for sure
I did the Gambler 500 a couple years ago in a 95 Honda Del Sol with small lift and all terrain tires and had a absolute blast! Would love to see y'all do a build and take it out to enjoy!
Matt, Take a look at the US Army Buffalo MRAP fenders. For the heavy wrecker, something like the ones on the Buffalo might be a good solution. You could engineer a way to make them quickly removable so you could only use them when muddy conditions (and/or snowy slush) require them but store them away if you don't need them.
Wow the customer wasn't super great. If I drove that wreck into that trail, I'd be grateful you could destroy my bumper and get me out. "How bad?" "Whats your plan on lifting it?" I'd wanna drive off and leave him to his own problems if he acted like that.
I am confused as to why he took the shocks off and removed them from the site? I mean why would you take parts off your car and put them in a different location?
Peanut riding in Matt’s lap with one paw out the window 😂😂😂. I love the fact that Matt takes the dogs on some of his jobs and lets them have a good run and play in the water when it’s available.
I mean that would be very unprofessional. I feel like we have all been in that guys situation. He probably thought he was going to be driving out but that didnt happen. Id also be pretty annoyed if i spent hours of work for nothing. Doesnt excuse a bad attitude but put yourself in his shoes. E Anyway he was in a much better mood by the end and everyone left happy.
Hey Matt, You could use a makeshift platform that attaches to the center hookup of the wrecker and allows the lines coming off the boom to connect to it for lift. This will give you the ability to get the platform under the vehicle and lift it without damaging the vehicle, it will also allow the platform to pivot on the various angles that a trail can subject the towed vehicle to. That or a full off road trailer that you can load a vehicle onto and secure that has wheels all the way at the back so as to prevent any scraping with maybe 40 inch wheels on the trailer.
Same. Was it just for the sake of calling Matt? It also seemed odd to care about the bumper of your $500 beater mustang that you essentially ruined (for resale) by converting it into an off roader.
Yes the Gambler 500 really has growing over the years it started right here in Portland Oregon. I am one of the originals members. Got a challenge for you Matt. Build a gambler 500 car by the original rules. Can not put more than $500 into a gambler rig and it has to make 500 miles. That was original rules. I was able to do it. 85 Caprice station wagon didn't have one straight panel on it. Got it for free homemade lift in it it made 496 miles I decided to climb over a rocky area and punched a hole through my oil pan but I had a blast we're going to be building a new one 1980 LTD Crown Vic 4 door got the car for 150 the lift dirt cheap homemade that is the spirit of the Gambler 500. And it helps clean the the trails which is totally awesome
I figure if my build got me stuck in that Mustang, I'd have been humble and thankful, however, his grumbling did save his rear bumper and mwybe he thought, "Yeah, my sh** broke, pls don't break it more." and we've all seen the "more damage" happen in recovery. Still, I love it when Matt and crew shows up and people are actually happy to see them roll in. Matt, if you build a rig for that run you should put a big honkin', truck mounted leaf vacuum on it, like the one's used by city leaf collection. It'll pick up trail litter easily.
What the heck Matt is incredibly patient… that guy is a real piece of work.. Not very appreciative at first. Glad you posted this one. Wrecker is amazing!!!!
It's not very hard to tell that Matt has dealt with ridiculous customers for a long time. The customer takes the suspension apart on the side of the road and sends it away, tells no one about it before they arrive and then gives Matt attitude about how he's going to fix this situation? Customer, wake up. Matt, awesome job!
I understand how easy it is to judge a situation from afar, but it breaks my heart to read these hurtful and off-based comments about Danny. I had the pleasure of meeting him during a Gambler 500/Sons of Smokey cleanup recently. He is beloved in the community and notorious for going out of his way to help folks on and off the trails. He is an incredible mechanic, and not afraid to send it. I trailed behind him as he took this manual mustang 2wd OPEN DIFF through Hells Revenge in Moab- no problem. You can see it on the gambler page, it was wild to witness! From what I’ve heard he was mid-repair when someone ELSE called Matt. All I see here is a guy communicating why certain methods would or would not work based on what he knows having built the car himself. And look at what a great solution they came up with because of it!
Woohoo! I've been waiting anxiously for this vid. Great work Matt! I was participating in this Gambler event. The ancient tire that matt used to protect the mustang? I personally hiked that out of a deep wash near the road where it was dumped, probably decades ago! I'm glad it got put to good use for the recovery!
Matt's ability to keep his cool while the owner kept telling him no was awesome. Matt, you guys should build a Dodge Neon for the Gambler 500. Matt style
I understand how easy it is to judge a situation from afar, but it breaks my heart to read these hurtful and off-based comments about Danny. I had the pleasure of meeting him during a Gambler 500/Sons of Smokey cleanup recently. He is beloved in the community and notorious for going out of his way to help folks on and off the trails. He is an incredible mechanic, and not afraid to send it. I trailed behind him as he took this manual mustang 2wd OPEN DIFF through Hells Revenge in Moab- no problem. You can see it on the gambler page, it was wild to witness! From what I’ve heard he was mid-repair when someone ELSE called Matt. All I see here is a guy communicating why certain methods would or would not work based on what he knows having built the car himself. And look at what a great solution they came up with because of it! Would love to see what kind of Gambler 500 car Matt would build.
Please don’t let this experience speak for all Gambler 500 participants! We’re a very chill group of folk just out to have a good time and pickup some trash 🤘🏼
Matt and Tom teach me with almost every video to treat people how you want to be treated, not as they treat you. Wow, I cannot believe how patiently they take this customer's bad, cocky attitude. Class act, I'm sure they are living their religion with every encounter. My only pause about them is the dangerous predicaments they get Lizzy into. She doesn't seem to mind.
That customer had some negative energy at first. Matt deflected the negativity like Superman deflects bullets lol. While the customer just kept saying everything you can’t do, Matt just kept trying to figure out what they could do, and got it figured out. I’ve had customers like that, and they’re usually happy in the end like this guy was, but man does it take patience to not get frustrated with all the negativity during the process lol
He definitely mellowed out by the end, its just a phase, guy gets frustrated after trying so hard to fix it and failing and that attitude just smolders for a while until it burns out and he's just thankful and happy to have gotten help. If only more people would have the grace and patience of Matt, the world would be a magnitudes better place to live if that were the case, but unfortunately most people only live life for themselves and nobody else, and that means they just give up in the face of hardship. There are some bad apples every so often of course, but this guy wasn't one of them. I commend you also for having patience like Matt, you're good civilization just for that alone :)
@@Avetho Hope everyone gets to read your comment Avetho as it's most likely the best comment here. We are all human and clearly Matt doesn't let it get personal. Not sure if you learn it this a certain age or just cause Matt's got a good group around for most of his life. Things we do to pay the bills and Matt has the right tools to get him out =P
Great video and professionalism. An idea for the mud. You might have thought of this already, but you could possibly mount some rubberized / plastic fenders over your tires on the axel so the turn with the wheel. Check out the front end of the John Deere 4455 model tractor from the 90's for an example. Those work great working out in the farm fields all day. Thanks for all your videos, it's fun watching the rescues and vehicle builds.
ive been involved with the Michigan gambler 500 for almost 5 years and i love it. The gambler 500 is a great event that you guys would absolutely love!!
@@currentresident15666 absolutely, Tom was doing his job by being a spotter. They came up on parts that could have done damage to the mustang and being pulled out in reverse makes it hard to see what's ahead so Tom was the insurance they were doing it right.
I would love to see you guys in the Gambler 500! I can only imagine the shenanigans you would get into. A small part of me has wanted to turn me mx5 miata into a g500 machine, it'd be fun to see you guys do something as, or more ridiculous
You could tell everyone was biting their tongue around him that was there for the event. Matt was trying to offer solutions and all he had was problems, why not offer up a decent solution Jesus, took his friend with a brain to get there. I understand we can all be in rough spots at time but just creating resistance without any help isn't going to get him anywhere! Amazing job my MORR.
So I have a suggestion for fenders for the heavy wrecker. Look at the fender systems that are on the all-terrain forklifts. It’s essentially a 1 inch tube that comes off the steering knuckle with a big plastic fender that sits over the tires. You can bolt and unbolt them from the steering knuckle as you need it and it would keep mud from slinging everywhere.
It's crazy how much respect you guys have for street legality. You live in a MUCH more rural area than me and even here almost nobody cares, as long as you're not geared so low you cause traffic
Given the size of the tires and the glaring lack of fenders, it is obviously not street legal. If they let the wrecker pass, police would have a hard time stopping ANY vehicle, no matter how far they deviate from legal requirements. I have had windshields both pitted and cracked by debris flying off of tires. With an aggressive tread and large knobs, those tire could spit out golf ball+ sized rocks. Fenders are a legitimate need. Matt could make removable fenders with hinged joints such that once he loosens some wingnuts, each fender can fold into a thin stack of flat sheetmetal .
It's also not really anything you'd want to drive on the street for any real length. The banana and moorvair run out of gas all the time, and this thing is going to be way worse. They'll always be better off putting it on a trailer and dragging it as close to the job as possible. As for DMV requirements, there are exceptions and allowances for "special purpose" vehicles.
@@davidrichardson8394 And I suppose it's a totally different story when it's you the business owner, driving a company vehicle, complete with advertisement on the side... Probably wouldn't look too good
Tom, I didn't know what the Gambler 500 was either. But, it does give you guys an opportunity for a sick, out of this world build for the next Gambler 500. I hope this gets Matt's wheels a turning. Maybe an insane 4x4 sports car??m
Extend the wreckers winch arm and make a t piece that goes between that stops it running forward, will make for more build content :) We love your build videos!
I’m glad to see peanut on this recovery because I hadn’t seen him in a few videos and I was hoping nothing happened to the little guy he’s just a sweetheart anyway Matt you guys are all right when you love animals like that doesn’t get much better all right this is six in a row jim from Kennerdell, Pennsylvania❤❤🎉🎉
Matt it would be awesome to see you do the 500. I love seeing the different kinds of cars and it's a great thing they do picking up the garbage 🎉🎉great stuff
Great job! Matt, could really use you, Paul, Rory, Robbie, and Holly to do a joint video series on trail etiquette. Stay the trail, right of way, and things of that nature.
Matt I had an interesting idea when it comes to the gambler 500. What about having you, Paul from @FabRats, Robby from @RobbyLayton and Rudy all make vehicles for the Gambler 500? That would be interesting seeing the different ideas you guys would come up with. Plus you guys would have fun
When you give your weather report you should also give a gas gauge.
It's almost empty (probably)
@@zyeborm most times😂😂😂
And customer key location 😂
"Gas tank is absolutely almost partly completely full." --- That should cover it. ---
LOL post this every video please
What a tool! I would have said "ok, great have fun getting off the trail" Matt is one calm guy.
I was just sitting here saying if your going to take a vehicle off-road with out hookup locations that shits on you when you gotta be saved
No doubt the guys got all the answers but can’t get his pos off the mountain himself
"We broke down! Call for help!" "What should we do while we are waiting?" " Lets break down the car and throw away all the parts!" 😂
Yeah……what a douche!
This man was a grade A dumbass. Props to Matt for not just saying “okay have fun then since you want to remove the parts”.
He sees people at their worst so I’m assuming he is the master at that control it’s honest quite impressive
FR, how do you think it is a good idea to call for a tow and get rid of essential parts? And these are supposedly car people! They lose their enthusiast cards.
Makes absolutely zero sense 🤦♂️
Why would you take your rig apart on the trail and have somebody leave with your parts?!? That doesn't seem very smart
That event is a bunch of fools straight out of California. Bunch of broken down junk.
It doesn't seem like you e ever had to trail-fix a car.... That is standard protocol.
Mustang on 33s wasn't the brightest first option but he made it this far 🤣
@@lessthanscientific724 off-road wrecker has a welder, If they would have just left them on it would have been fixed....
@@josephprentice8354 Good thing there wasn't any crowds while they were towing it out 🤣🤣
I know, let’s brake down on the trail and remove critical parts that you might need to get the vehicle off the trail! Like everyone has said, Matt tremendously awesome patience and professionalism!
Yeah, like I can understand taking it apart to try to fix it, but why take the parts away!? Did he ever consider it might need to be reassembled?
Matt ignored that bad attitude like a boss. All about solutions.
Yep. Props to Matt for taking the high road.
Why did he start taking his entire car apart in the middle of the desert???
No defense of the guys attitude, but he is prob pretty frustrated and I'll bet Matt has seen his fair share of people with misplaced anger.
We can all take a lesson from Matt and his team.
@@DrTheRich Probably thought it was repairable somehow, at the beginning Matt says they think they're going out to repair the car. Anyway, dude cheered up a lot by the end. Like someone else said, just seen his baby destroyed, probably spent hours trying to fix it only to eventually realize it's all wasted effort.
He mellowed out towards the end, I think he was just not having a very good time. Matt handled it very well tho
Wow!! Matt's professionalism REALLY showed thru in this video. Its obvious there was quite a bit of editing due to the customers inability to filter his mouth/thoughts and a HUGE lack of humility; a little goes a LOOOOONG way! I tip my hat to you sir! Were it me out there rescuing him, he'd have got a piece of my mind and very possibly left on the trail where he was found.....
I agree but a bit more food for thought.
It costs Matt time and money to make it all the way there. No way he's not going to try even if there is bad attitude from the customer. Though I'm sure Mat has a point where you can't pay him enough to do something.
Still money aside, I feel Matt is a "better man" and would help anyone even if it was to give the man his classic work shirt off his back.
He knows people are what is important. You don't get friends like he has with out knowing that. You see it all the time with his interactions with Ed, Lizy, his kids and well practically everyone who's worked with or for him.
@@MacCosmic Call out fees for such jobs are well over $1000 in most places.
That was amazing how Matt didn't even acknowledge that dude's crummy attitude. I can't say I would have been so accommodating. Great job guys!
I didn't think he had a crummy tude, even for a guy that had been broken down in the middle of nomans land . Really i didn't sence any tde at all, he simply stated that the shocks had been taken away, without giving any reason. Which is and was strange to me. What the heck were they thinking 🤔 I can only guess that they were trying to get new parts or fix the broken ones 🤪
Right i think he expected the flat bed
I understand how easy it is to judge a situation from afar, but it breaks my heart to read these hurtful and off-based comments about Danny. I had the pleasure of meeting him during a Gambler 500/Sons of Smokey cleanup recently. He is beloved in the community and notorious for going out of his way to help folks on and off the trails. He is an incredible mechanic, and not afraid to send it. I trailed behind him as he took this manual mustang 2wd OPEN DIFF through Hells Revenge in Moab- no problem. You can see it on the gambler page, it was wild to witness! From what I’ve heard he was mid-repair when someone ELSE called Matt. All I see here is a guy communicating why certain methods would or would not work based on what he knows having built the car himself. And look at what a great solution they came up with because of it!
I am sure this guy didn’t get the free recovery.
@@Wholesomeashell yes ,i don't know anyone here personally...and after this comment i had to rewatch the whole video cause i didn't recall any crummy attitude. And i again witnessed none. Some people see things and get it wrong in their minds eye i guess.
I couldn’t have done it without pitching a big fit then leaving him there. Kudos to you and Tom for being able to keep your cool. My blood pressure was up just listening to his attitude.
The Gambler 500 was started in Oregon by a group of guys whose lives changed from being "best friends who always hung out and did everything together" to "all having started their own families and never getting to see eachother" so they all got their own $500 car and drove 500 offroad miles across Oregon tackling some pretty rough terrain.
I hear the ring of a saying like "Doesn't mater the road you take, it's always better with friends. Just don't lead them down bad roads and everything is better ".
So who did they call when something broke down to clean the wreck when it wasn't able to go any further? Clearly not Matt =P
@@MacCosmic Gamblers help gamblers.
no one asked
It's great to see how Matt can be so professional even when dealing with all types of personalities. One of the reasons I love this channel
That gambler guy seemed determined to make his problem worse in every conceivable way.
Working overtime to make HIS problem EVERYONE’S problem. WHAT a COLOSSAL JERK! He clearly needs a double dose of humility heaped with a generous serving of gratitude. Maybe he will read some of these comments and at least TRY to mend his pathetic ill-mannered behavior.
Yeah he was a real piece of work.
There is a common sense rule that you don't give away parts of car that you want towed. Would be a deal breaker for me. What did he think Matt could do? Fly in a helicopter to collect?
Yeah, that dude had a problem for every solution. I would have told him, "sorry, I guess I can’t help you".
@@duaneschleef It’s a fortunate thing that the guy in the poncho raised the option of removing the bumper plastic to get to something solid.
Kudos to you Matt for your patience with this guy. You’re a better man than me.
Me too!!😂😂😂 I was already telling the guy to shut up through the video!!
🇺🇸🇺🇸Matt in 2024!🇺🇸🇺🇸
Yeah, I will be like buh bye my guy. It seems you've got this.
Right!
Yeah no doubt, I would've left without saying a word to him after hearing him.
Performed my 1st off-road recovery this past Monday and I was fully prepared from all the years watching this channel. Came across a family in a Ram 2500 stuck on the ramp 4 beach access at Cape Hatteras National Seashore. Soft Shackle and a quick tug with a kinetic rope with my Titan and everyone was on their way.
You should start your own channel.
Love it down there, the amount go recoveries I’ve had to do down there is crazy.
You guys should definitely build a rig for the Gambler 500! That would be cool for sure.
That little samurai they have now is basically one. I have a gambler made out of a 03 Sunfire, honestly best car I've ever owned. Small but very capable, surprisingly so. FWD and have driven though 4ft of snow and didn't slow down.
Matt also doing his part in picking up trash off the trail 🤙🏻 Good job Matt
And the mustang too.😆
@@scorpioDAVE9 woosh
Matt is nothing but pro. Always positive and looking for answers to problems. Great leader.
Agree
Man, sometimes you just wanna pack up your truck and turn around and leave. Dude said no to almost everything, it's amazing he ended up happy
I was thinking the same thing.
I am a heavy tow operator and have done exactly that. Packed up my Truck and drove away. Felt bad latter . But dam it felt good at the time
This customer was a jerk! Good job Matt you’re such a respectful professional man.
That was and unusual recovery. I thought for a minute that the guy was going to run you out of options and you'd have to leave the car sitting like you found it! LOL!! Patience prevailed and it was a successful recovery!! Great work Matt and Tom!!
What a guy! So many demands for a problem he created.
i noticed he calmed down a lot and was way more polite once teh vehicle was down. i can't imagine how stressed he was. personally i thought he restrained himself pretty well, it could have gone a lot worse
@@BikingWIthPanda it's a Gambler car, you should go with a plan when it breaks... because it's gonna break.
Thought the same thing.
He grabbed a bud light out the trunk so there is that.
@@electrontube You totally nailed it. Seriously, who builds a Gambler or any off road rig without welded in recovery points and reinforced bumpers? It's a ghetto-fabricated heap of crap, of course it's going to break down eventually. Scrap steel is cheap, get a welder and figure it out. Don't blame others for your lack of preparedness. Don't blame the guy with the wrecker, he's there to Un-F the situation you got yourself into to begin with.
Big lesson here for car builders. .. Make sure to have hard points at the ends for pulling and lifting.. Maybe even some side attach points would come in handy too, for dragging sideways when needed.
Good point! Not a bad idea👍👍
The joke who broke it is so damn demanding, his attitude was so amazing, made it seem like everybody there owed him somthing. He drove that pile in so he should be a bit more grateful to people like Matt for getting it out! Great job on putting up wit such an ahole
I say yes to building a Gambler 500 MORR Rig! With the talent and creativity of your crew, I am sure you can build an incredible machine.
Nobody wants to be broke down on a trail ... sometimes frustrations run a little close to the surface ... in the end, everyone was happy!
Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
This guy clearly knew what he was getting into. This wasn't a dude and his family in a rental car. It is as a custom built vehicle that failed. He should have known it would happen eventually. No excuse
Matt is the man… His patience, empathy and respect for those that clearly lack it, is amazing.
I understand how easy it is to judge a situation from afar, but it breaks my heart to read these hurtful and off-based comments about Danny. I had the pleasure of meeting him during a Gambler 500/Sons of Smokey cleanup recently. He is beloved in the community and notorious for going out of his way to help folks on and off the trails. He is an incredible mechanic, and not afraid to send it. I trailed behind him as he took this manual mustang 2wd OPEN DIFF through Hells Revenge in Moab- no problem. You can see it on the gambler page, it was wild to witness! From what I’ve heard he was mid-repair when someone ELSE called Matt. All I see here is a guy communicating why certain methods would or would not work based on what he knows having built the car himself. And look at what a great solution they came up with because of it!
Having worked in the medical field you have to keep compassion in mind because you are dealing with otherwise good people in a stressful situation. I'm sure the same applies to situations like this. Enjoyed the video.
I was thinking that. He didn't realize he was getting unscrewed, tough to see when you screw yourself that bad 😅
I hope everyone of us can learn a valuable lesson from Matt and Tom Tom today. Such patience and humility.
EnerGy Jack you nailed it! It is about being the best person you can be regardless of the circumstances, Matt and Tom Tom conducted a world class training session for us all.
I understand how easy it is to judge a situation from afar, but it breaks my heart to read these hurtful and off-based comments about Danny. I had the pleasure of meeting him during a Gambler 500/Sons of Smokey cleanup recently. He is beloved in the community and notorious for going out of his way to help folks on and off the trails. He is an incredible mechanic, and not afraid to send it. I trailed behind him as he took this manual mustang 2wd OPEN DIFF through Hells Revenge in Moab- no problem. You can see it on the gambler page, it was wild to witness! From what I’ve heard he was mid-repair when someone ELSE called Matt. All I see here is a guy communicating why certain methods would or would not work based on what he knows having built the car himself. And look at what a great solution they came up with because of it!
@@Wholesomeashellhe seemed annoyed at the situation to me which is understandable. He didnt seem like a bad dude or anything!
I found this a useful comment the first time I saw it. Copying into multiple replies makes it seem more disingenuous. @@Wholesomeashell
Good job being patient with the customer. Wrecker functioned perfectly. The Mustang owner learned a valuable lesson on the weaknesses of his design, and vehicle selection.
One thing that surprised me.
Once you took the bumper off, that car had a brilliant lifting point.
Maybe that method will be used a bit more in the future.
Only if the frame is exposed.
Some cars/trucks that "lifting point" could give or now be bent. That could be "the bumper" instead of that plastic piece removed and most cars now the bumper is ment to give to protect the people. It's why Matt doesn't like to hook onto them as he's learned they are not cheap to replace =P
Still I agree with you Dave, when you are tossed lemons you make lemonade.
Some people don't deserve help. You're a better man than I am!
Something definitely off about the costumer, Matt as always keeping his composure
Safe to assume anyone who enters the gambler 500 is a little off 😊
I think the owner might’ve been a little disheartened
@@TheBnbonthebeach or a little bit of an ungrateful jerk!
@@gregparrott 🤣my bad...fixed.
You have the patience of a saint Matt! I would’ve left mustang guy high and dry I get he’s frustrated but cmon guy take a breath breaking it and recovering it is part of the fun
Blankie Man and Untied Shoes were nay saying and ego slaying...Matt was just like I'll give you a lift and an education. What a true Wrecker Operator. Been there.
So the mustang owner might have been a bit rough on the video, but I'm absolutely confident he is exhausted, possibly hung over, and spent probably the last 15+ hours either bouncing around in that rig or trying to fix it. Plus. Although he was negative, it was for good intentions. He didn't want the rig to fall off or become another problem halfway off the trail. I know Danny, he's a great guy. These Utah gamblers are an amazing group and helped me when I was in need when I went on one of their events a year or so ago.
Coilovers were removed to prevent damage to them, as someone indicated the replacement cost per coilover is approximately equal to the value of the entire car unmodified. Prior to Matt's arrival the intention was to place the rear of the Mustang onto the Van Flatbed and tow it out that way. In the shuffle of preparing for the mustang to be towed out the coil overs were placed in another vehicle to be returned to camp. That vehicle left a couple minutes before Matt arrived.
Danny (the customer) does have a strange demeanor but a heart of gold. The video doesn't show all the joking around and humor. That mustang build was the culmination of years of work and trial and error, damaging it by being incautious would be heartbreaking.
The bingo card was part of the event, helping a broken down gambler was one of the spots on the card that's why I insisted it be given to Matt.
My 2¢.
I was the man with no name (costume I wore for the event)
Thanks for the context.
I agree, the customers attitude was fine, just reserved..
Guy was an a hole, even with the context.
Maybe everyone who is in the gambler 500 is an a hole
Just saying
Thanks for the context… I work in retail when people treat me like that I try to remain respectful and positive but sometimes I also get frustrated and I know my customers can tell so I try really really hard to remain calm and respectful like Matt. Also nice poncho
Matt literally is such a gem. He handled this very well
dude's so humble he doesn't care about telling everyone that he's not above eating orphan cheese-its
Definitely do the Gambler 500. Not only could it be interesting to see what you build, but it sounds like a great cause.
if Merlin and Chad and Paul and Matt did the Gambler on one or two cars they would have a ton of fun and they could support each other. it would be one for the ages that's for sure
Eh, I’m not sure that’s a group I want to see again.
I did the Gambler 500 a couple years ago in a 95 Honda Del Sol with small lift and all terrain tires and had a absolute blast! Would love to see y'all do a build and take it out to enjoy!
Matt, Take a look at the US Army Buffalo MRAP fenders. For the heavy wrecker, something like the ones on the Buffalo might be a good solution. You could engineer a way to make them quickly removable so you could only use them when muddy conditions (and/or snowy slush) require them but store them away if you don't need them.
Wow the customer wasn't super great.
If I drove that wreck into that trail, I'd be grateful you could destroy my bumper and get me out.
"How bad?" "Whats your plan on lifting it?"
I'd wanna drive off and leave him to his own problems if he acted like that.
I am confused as to why he took the shocks off and removed them from the site? I mean why would you take parts off your car and put them in a different location?
A Mustang in its native environment
Yeah, I would have told red hoodie boy have a nice night and left him there to hopefully learn a valuable lesson.
@@John-uo1qf most mustang drivers only go to get a spray tan on their way to the gay pride parade in that car..
No wonder he chose the lady for radio duty - man that guy could drain the life outta quick!
Peanut riding in Matt’s lap with one paw out the window 😂😂😂. I love the fact that Matt takes the dogs on some of his jobs and lets them have a good run and play in the water when it’s available.
Matt has a lot of patience. That guy was a frumpy (a hole). I would have probably left him on the trail.
I would have said nope not worth it and left.
Mee Too
@@orangetaby6024 meee tooo
I mean that would be very unprofessional. I feel like we have all been in that guys situation. He probably thought he was going to be driving out but that didnt happen. Id also be pretty annoyed if i spent hours of work for nothing. Doesnt excuse a bad attitude but put yourself in his shoes. E Anyway he was in a much better mood by the end and everyone left happy.
Y'all are soft as a pillow, jesus.
Customer is King. Every small business owner knows that. Matt proved finesse is crucial in all aspects of his job.
Hey Matt, You could use a makeshift platform that attaches to the center hookup of the wrecker and allows the lines coming off the boom to connect to it for lift. This will give you the ability to get the platform under the vehicle and lift it without damaging the vehicle, it will also allow the platform to pivot on the various angles that a trail can subject the towed vehicle to.
That or a full off road trailer that you can load a vehicle onto and secure that has wheels all the way at the back so as to prevent any scraping with maybe 40 inch wheels on the trailer.
Talk about entitled customers... customer service off road is just like retail 😂😂😂
losers everywhere. they say don't judge a book by its cover... that's dumb... that fat fool is a loser
Sadly, that is not the worst thing I have seen done to a mustang. Tho I dont kno why he called you, he seems to kno everything already.......
Same. Was it just for the sake of calling Matt?
It also seemed odd to care about the bumper of your $500 beater mustang that you essentially ruined (for resale) by converting it into an off roader.
Well that dudes a ray of sunshine.
Yes the Gambler 500 really has growing over the years it started right here in Portland Oregon. I am one of the originals members. Got a challenge for you Matt. Build a gambler 500 car by the original rules. Can not put more than $500 into a gambler rig and it has to make 500 miles. That was original rules. I was able to do it. 85 Caprice station wagon didn't have one straight panel on it. Got it for free homemade lift in it it made 496 miles I decided to climb over a rocky area and punched a hole through my oil pan but I had a blast we're going to be building a new one 1980 LTD Crown Vic 4 door got the car for 150 the lift dirt cheap homemade that is the spirit of the Gambler 500. And it helps clean the the trails which is totally awesome
I figure if my build got me stuck in that Mustang, I'd have been humble and thankful, however, his grumbling did save his rear bumper and mwybe he thought, "Yeah, my sh** broke, pls don't break it more." and we've all seen the "more damage" happen in recovery. Still, I love it when Matt and crew shows up and people are actually happy to see them roll in.
Matt, if you build a rig for that run you should put a big honkin', truck mounted leaf vacuum on it, like the one's used by city leaf collection. It'll pick up trail litter easily.
That guy had a problem for every answer but didn’t offer any solution to help. Well done matt for keeping cool.
What the heck Matt is incredibly patient… that guy is a real piece of work..
Not very appreciative at first. Glad you posted this one. Wrecker is amazing!!!!
Matt is the best......You don't go to a heart surgeon and then tell them how to operate......the guy was a tool!!! Great job guys....
So great to see the wrecker putting in the work!👌👍
Nice work Matt. Stay focused and positive and that will rub off on people
Matt's got a stronger will than I do. I would've just told the guy to shut up and let me do my job or find someone else to get him out.
I would have left as soon as he started talking or doubled the price.
Some people try to find the fault in everything, rather than search for a solution. Would not want that guy as a co-worker.
Most definitely a Gambler 500 build is needed after Lizzie's and Jayme's vehicle builds Mr. Matt
Im Canadian, and I would have a hard time being polite to that guy! Mass respect boys
They get bonus points for having a Matt's off road recovery tow. Have a good week and count your blessings amen.
It's not very hard to tell that Matt has dealt with ridiculous customers for a long time. The customer takes the suspension apart on the side of the road and sends it away, tells no one about it before they arrive and then gives Matt attitude about how he's going to fix this situation? Customer, wake up. Matt, awesome job!
He hired Matt for a tow, explained what he needed Matt to do, Matt got paid, customer was happy.
I understand how easy it is to judge a situation from afar, but it breaks my heart to read these hurtful and off-based comments about Danny. I had the pleasure of meeting him during a Gambler 500/Sons of Smokey cleanup recently. He is beloved in the community and notorious for going out of his way to help folks on and off the trails. He is an incredible mechanic, and not afraid to send it. I trailed behind him as he took this manual mustang 2wd OPEN DIFF through Hells Revenge in Moab- no problem. You can see it on the gambler page, it was wild to witness! From what I’ve heard he was mid-repair when someone ELSE called Matt. All I see here is a guy communicating why certain methods would or would not work based on what he knows having built the car himself. And look at what a great solution they came up with because of it!
@@Wholesomeashell😂
Woohoo! I've been waiting anxiously for this vid. Great work Matt! I was participating in this Gambler event. The ancient tire that matt used to protect the mustang? I personally hiked that out of a deep wash near the road where it was dumped, probably decades ago! I'm glad it got put to good use for the recovery!
Tom Tom is such a great addition to this channel. Gives great explanations to what’s going on.
That's cool. You helped the blues traveler out on the trail
If he expected a flat bed, he should have vocalized that. Props to Matt for making it work regardless!
What kind of goofy takes his shocks off when the things broken down on the trail.
More than that, who takes them off and is like ok just send these far away. Like what lol?
@@tex_gil117 agreed. I don’t get it.
A meth head 🤣😂😂😂
An idiot, with no business being out there
Well, clearly one of the other participants needed it, so he donated it 😂
Matt your such a professional and a gentleman, that guy seemed so rude and nasty I can't imagine the stuff that got edited out
That guy acted like he created a problem and then asked Matt to solve it like it was a test
Yep - sand in the Vaseline.
That's what got outta it, too, ChrisB8s.
🤔 seems fishy.
that beer belly stores a lot of dickhead energy.
I agree. His attitude seemed a bit off.
@Privileged White Male hello fellow white privileged male
Do It! Build a Gambler car...it was fun watching the toe truck being built. Go Team Toad!
Rudy should build one also...and call it Team Toad Too.
7:34 I want to cry because that's so cool. A Fury on dualies. Easily the coolest car I've ever seen
Matt's ability to keep his cool while the owner kept telling him no was awesome.
Matt, you guys should build a Dodge Neon for the Gambler 500. Matt style
Jason, I am thinking a Vega Kammback Wagon as a salute to the Morrvair!
I understand how easy it is to judge a situation from afar, but it breaks my heart to read these hurtful and off-based comments about Danny. I had the pleasure of meeting him during a Gambler 500/Sons of Smokey cleanup recently. He is beloved in the community and notorious for going out of his way to help folks on and off the trails. He is an incredible mechanic, and not afraid to send it. I trailed behind him as he took this manual mustang 2wd OPEN DIFF through Hells Revenge in Moab- no problem. You can see it on the gambler page, it was wild to witness! From what I’ve heard he was mid-repair when someone ELSE called Matt. All I see here is a guy communicating why certain methods would or would not work based on what he knows having built the car himself. And look at what a great solution they came up with because of it!
Would love to see what kind of Gambler 500 car Matt would build.
You are a very understanding person Matt and show a lot of paitence with some people.
Please don’t let this experience speak for all Gambler 500 participants! We’re a very chill group of folk just out to have a good time and pickup some trash 🤘🏼
Love to see what you would build for the Gambler 500. Crazy vehicles and picking up trash TOTALLY sounds like something Matt would do.
Matt and Tom teach me with almost every video to treat people how you want to be treated, not as they treat you. Wow, I cannot believe how patiently they take this customer's bad, cocky attitude. Class act, I'm sure they are living their religion with every encounter. My only pause about them is the dangerous predicaments they get Lizzy into. She doesn't seem to mind.
Are you Lizzy's protecter???
Certified creep!
Always a pleasure to watch. Even with some attitude Matt stayed the same and calm. Kudos Matt. You’re a good man.
I would actually love to see what kinda ridiculous thing y’all would build for the gambler, would be a fun series overall i think.
That customer had some negative energy at first. Matt deflected the negativity like Superman deflects bullets lol. While the customer just kept saying everything you can’t do, Matt just kept trying to figure out what they could do, and got it figured out. I’ve had customers like that, and they’re usually happy in the end like this guy was, but man does it take patience to not get frustrated with all the negativity during the process lol
He definitely mellowed out by the end, its just a phase, guy gets frustrated after trying so hard to fix it and failing and that attitude just smolders for a while until it burns out and he's just thankful and happy to have gotten help. If only more people would have the grace and patience of Matt, the world would be a magnitudes better place to live if that were the case, but unfortunately most people only live life for themselves and nobody else, and that means they just give up in the face of hardship. There are some bad apples every so often of course, but this guy wasn't one of them. I commend you also for having patience like Matt, you're good civilization just for that alone :)
@@Avetho Hope everyone gets to read your comment Avetho as it's most likely the best comment here.
We are all human and clearly Matt doesn't let it get personal. Not sure if you learn it this a certain age or just cause Matt's got a good group around for most of his life.
Things we do to pay the bills and Matt has the right tools to get him out =P
Great video and professionalism. An idea for the mud. You might have thought of this already, but you could possibly mount some rubberized / plastic fenders over your tires on the axel so the turn with the wheel. Check out the front end of the John Deere 4455 model tractor from the 90's for an example. Those work great working out in the farm fields all day. Thanks for all your videos, it's fun watching the rescues and vehicle builds.
ive been involved with the Michigan gambler 500 for almost 5 years and i love it. The gambler 500 is a great event that you guys would absolutely love!!
That guy was so bad that Tom decided to run all the way back
Ha Ha. I was thinking the same thing. Definitely a reason Tom didn't stay in the car with him.
@@currentresident15666 absolutely, Tom was doing his job by being a spotter. They came up on parts that could have done damage to the mustang and being pulled out in reverse makes it hard to see what's ahead so Tom was the insurance they were doing it right.
That bingo card was strange considering Matt had no idea he was a part of it.
Seriously. And to give him the card? Matt looked so confused.
These guys do seem to be quite a bunch of mentally handicapped folk.
Ha hes like I guess I'll throw this away for you?!
The card has value, to them at least, and he was returning the generosity for the shirt.
Nice work everyone! Wow Matt and Tom, great customer service and way to protect their car, way above and beyond!
I would love to see you guys in the Gambler 500! I can only imagine the shenanigans you would get into. A small part of me has wanted to turn me mx5 miata into a g500 machine, it'd be fun to see you guys do something as, or more ridiculous
You could tell everyone was biting their tongue around him that was there for the event. Matt was trying to offer solutions and all he had was problems, why not offer up a decent solution Jesus, took his friend with a brain to get there. I understand we can all be in rough spots at time but just creating resistance without any help isn't going to get him anywhere!
Amazing job my MORR.
Gambler 500 hundred sounds like a Kenny Rogers off-road buggy...
So I have a suggestion for fenders for the heavy wrecker. Look at the fender systems that are on the all-terrain forklifts. It’s essentially a 1 inch tube that comes off the steering knuckle with a big plastic fender that sits over the tires. You can bolt and unbolt them from the steering knuckle as you need it and it would keep mud from slinging everywhere.
A set of tractor mudguards would do the job, easily removable as well.
Guy was a bit stressed, and Matt was expertly calm and helpful.
It's crazy how much respect you guys have for street legality. You live in a MUCH more rural area than me and even here almost nobody cares, as long as you're not geared so low you cause traffic
He's had some legal trouble before I'm sure they want to stay far away from shortcuts, understandably.
Well, he has to care about street legality because posting in youtube is putting evidence in plain sight.
Given the size of the tires and the glaring lack of fenders, it is obviously not street legal. If they let the wrecker pass, police would have a hard time stopping ANY vehicle, no matter how far they deviate from legal requirements. I have had windshields both pitted and cracked by debris flying off of tires. With an aggressive tread and large knobs, those tire could spit out golf ball+ sized rocks. Fenders are a legitimate need. Matt could make removable fenders with hinged joints such that once he loosens some wingnuts, each fender can fold into a thin stack of flat sheetmetal .
It's also not really anything you'd want to drive on the street for any real length. The banana and moorvair run out of gas all the time, and this thing is going to be way worse. They'll always be better off putting it on a trailer and dragging it as close to the job as possible.
As for DMV requirements, there are exceptions and allowances for "special purpose" vehicles.
@@davidrichardson8394 And I suppose it's a totally different story when it's you the business owner, driving a company vehicle, complete with advertisement on the side... Probably wouldn't look too good
I’d definitely be interested in you guys participating as long as it involves another custom Matt designed vehicle. 👍🏼
Tom, I didn't know what the Gambler 500 was either. But, it does give you guys an opportunity for a sick, out of this world build for the next Gambler 500. I hope this gets Matt's wheels a turning. Maybe an insane 4x4 sports car??m
Extend the wreckers winch arm and make a t piece that goes between that stops it running forward, will make for more build content :) We love your build videos!
I’m glad to see peanut on this recovery because I hadn’t seen him in a few videos and I was hoping nothing happened to the little guy he’s just a sweetheart anyway Matt you guys are all right when you love animals like that doesn’t get much better all right this is six in a row jim from Kennerdell, Pennsylvania❤❤🎉🎉
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Matt it would be awesome to see you do the 500. I love seeing the different kinds of cars and it's a great thing they do picking up the garbage 🎉🎉great stuff
What I love is that everyone sees the same thing! Hope that guy looks at the comments and has a hard think about how he is. And on how people see him
Great job! Matt, could really use you, Paul, Rory, Robbie, and Holly to do a joint video series on trail etiquette. Stay the trail, right of way, and things of that nature.
You should definitely participate in the gambler 500. And I like that you use the word "ridonkulous"
Yes, Gambler build! We see your very capable rigs off road. Seeing a $500 crapcan off road would offer a lot of entertainment!
Wow, it's like an offroad Ren Fair...what an eccentric group.
Matt I had an interesting idea when it comes to the gambler 500.
What about having you, Paul from @FabRats, Robby from @RobbyLayton and Rudy all make vehicles for the Gambler 500? That would be interesting seeing the different ideas you guys would come up with. Plus you guys would have fun