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Vandross was a HUGE fan of Karen Carpenter's voice and recorded his version as a homage and himself, along with the writers of the song, stated that no one could touch the carpenter's version....
You just made me ball like a kid hearing that comment about Luther and his reaction to Karen. Knowing what she meant to him made my Tuesday. God, but I miss her voice and spirit so much. Peace to all and wishes for a safe 2024.
I always thought it was a Leon Russell song, did not know about the other writers. Could not be two more different musicians and singers than Karen and Leon, but what a gem of a haunting song by Leon and what a stunning vocal by Karen.
Leon Russell said it himself, that his favorite version of his song “Superstar” was the one by Karen Carpenter. He Admired Karen so much here is another quote "Karen Carpenter was just a singularly amazing singer. There was just not anybody like her. @@ChuckHackney
@@ChuckHackney Before the Carpenters, Cher and Bette Midler also covered "Superstar."
Karen Carpenter was only 21 years old at the time and recorded this all time classic IN ONE TAKE reading the lyrics off a napkin! OTHERWORLDLY incredible...
Nobody was better than Karen Carpenter - Not Luther, not Michael Jackson, not Freddie Mercury. Karen puts so much emotion into her voice. Her death was the death of music.
I wouldn't go that far.
@@LillyMarz777 I would...
yep, spot on, karen was the best for sure.
There is a YT channel out there by someone called Wings of Pegasus. He dives deep into the analysis of vocals and vocalists, and he did one feature on Karen Carpenter proving that her pitch in a live performance was even more true than the studio version, which is crazy! Loved your reaction, you are very good at what you do!! Thank you,
I saw that video. It was an excellent demonstration of "one take Karen" in action. It showed an instrument I had never seen before, a "scope" with time on the X axis and frequency on the Y axis. As an ET, I'm used to amplitude on the Y axis and frequency on the X axis like a spectrum analyzer. It's an example of an instrument created specifically created for the music industry. I imagine this measurement is used by autotune to "fix" singers who can't sing on key naturally.
Fil is great.😊
I watch him and I saw that one. I adore The Carpenters.
Written by Leon Russell and Bonnie Bramlett.
"VOICE OF AN ANGEL"That's the world called her...she only owned that category..no one comes close to her voice.
She had the most beautiful voice of any woman
Superstar...a string of top 10 singles from this great duo; and the GOAT female singer IMO.
Luther covered it because he loved her version so much.
She had a beautiful voice.
Luther loved the Carpenters and he did his cover as a tribute to the Carpenters and Karen. One of the songwriters Bonnie, appeared on Roseanne as Roseanne's coworker Bonnie at the lunch counter at the department store.
Karen had an angelic and soulful voice. She had perfect pitch. Check out her version of A Song For You another great Leon Russell song. It was also masterfully done by Donnie Hathaway.
Glad you appreciate the utter beauty of her voice and I love how you do deep dives into the artists' lives and the story of the songs. Not many people who react to music do that. Yes it is tragic when anybody dies so needlessly like that but it was particularly devastating when Karen passed so young because she impacted so many lives, including mine, with her sad sweet and sublime voice. Luther's version was beautiful and oh so moving, truly one of the great covers, and really songs, ever, but this song, to me, will always belong to Karen.
You are an admirable person and very thoughtful. I enjoy watching and listening because of your kind soul. Once in a while several artists can do great renditions of the same song. Luther and The Carpenters both made masterpieces. I just bawled my eyes out the other day listening to Dance With My Father.
Other singers sang this song, but nobody really knew about this song until, the Carpenters made it into a big hit record back in the seventies.
Great reaction. Karen and Luther’s versions are both so beautiful. I love them both!
You have a great heart. Like what you have to say about Karen Carpenter. What a VOICE and person. You may be changing your favorite vocalist. She is in a league of her own. There are many bio's on Carpenters you can view on youtube. Besides reacting to their whole catalogue check out Karen and her fabulous drumming videos. There are many. Happy New Year !!!!
👍So very talented. Sad she is no longer with us.😢 🖖❤
Rainy Days and Mondays, Superstar, and Yesterday Once More are my favorite Carpenters tunes. Each are worth a reaction.
Superstar, originally titled Groupie, was written by Leon Russell and Bonnie Bramlett. The lead vocal on the track you're reacting to here, which became a hit single, was the first time KC ever sang this song. Not just the first take of the session: the first time she sang it, reading handwritten lyrics. That's how good she was. (She was a kickass drummer, too, but that's another story.) Other Carpenters stuff? Goodbye To Love, Eve, Someday, Crescent Noon, I Need To Be In Love, If I Had You, The Uninvited Guest, Solitaire, End Of The World, Nowhere Man...there are too many to name. Oh, and you've got to watch the 1971 live outdoor Bacharach medley taped at Walter Reed army hospital for the Ed Sullivan Show. Karen singing up a storm while simultaneously drumming up a storm too...
Another Carpenter song (this one actually one of Richard's own) to listen to: Something In Your Eyes, lead vocal by the late, great Dusty Springfield, from Richard's 1987 solo album Time. (Richard sings lead lots on that project. Check out also When Time Was All We Had from Time, where he multitracks himself into an a cappella choir.)
Like Luther Vandross? So do I. Check out Dance With My Father; it'll wreck you. And if you like Luther, there'll be several others you'll like too: James Ingram, Peabo Bryson, George Benson, Teddy Pendergrass, Matthew Ward (classic 1983 duet with Donna Summer, Love Has A Mind Of Its Own), and going way back, Nat Cole...also Tony Williams of The Platters.
Nice reaction...
She’s an excellent drummer too.
This is my FAVORITE Carpenters song ❤ (even though it was written by someone before them)
My fave version of this song! ♥ I suggest these Carpenters songs: Rainy Days and Mondays, Yesterday Once More & This Masquerade
Rainy Days and Mondays gets me every time.
This Masquerade is yet another Leon Russell song, like Superstar and A Song For You. Besides the Carpenters' album version of it, a portion of it is the opener for the stunning taped-for-TV 1980 standards medley featuring Karen and the iconic Ella Fitzgerald. Listen to that, if you haven't...
My fav Carpenters song among many & just the way Karen delivers that vocal & her range is superb. She certainly knew how to sing a song & I think she felt every word. There wasn't a song she couldn't sing that didn't touch your heart. She is still missed after 40 + years, a tragic loss to the music world.❤
As one of the other reviewers said, "I love the Luther Vandross version, and thought he did it first. But after hearing the original version, and Karen's voice, I liked her version more," as the reviewer is crying her eyes out before the end of the first verse.
You did a Great analysis, too. Awesome!
FYI. When Bonnie Bramlett found out that the Carpenter's had changed a few words in the song, from "And I can't wait to sleep with you again," to "And I can hardly wait to be with you again," Bonnie got very upset and was threatening to sue, according to Bonnie herself, to keep the song from being released. However, Bonnie's own friends kept telling her, "Look, it's Karen Carpenter who is going to sing YOUR SONG. That is an honor, and you'll make money from Karen singing it.
The Lyrics were changed because NO ONE could/would ever think of Karen singing that verse from the original. That was not her image.
Check out Karen singing in their shortest recording. It's also the one that gets me teary-eyed.
song: SOMETIMES
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Dear Lonestar50, Thank you for that reply further confirming what I have known since I was in my 16th year.....this young lady and her voice was singularly amazing and of a tone and purity the likes of which the world may never see again. I say it often, it is as if God sent us Karen so we could truly understand what his angelic choir sounds like. He called her back after only a brief while because his choir needed her more than we did in t bis realm. This is what I like to think, and it makes my soul, spirit and faith stronger for feeling it this way. Good tidings and happy new year, Chuck in North Carolina
An absolutely Superstar reaction sir! Really enjoyed this! I was fortunate to grow up in a marvelous musical age of which Leon Russell was a big part. Check out Carpenters " This Masquerade ", also written by Mr. Russell. This song is a great example of Karen's deep contralto octave range and highlights Richards talents on the keys, composing and arrangements. One of my top Carpenters tunes, if not my favorite.
So glad you discovered Carpenters timeless music. Your appreciation of them is very inspiring!
Yep. Her/Their song. Might be their most emotional. Beautiful.
You're not alone in discovering this.
Welcome to the Carpenter’s rabbit hole! IMHO, the greatest vocalist of all time. Her 3 octave contralto voice is simply unmatched. Sir Paul McCartney said of her: “the best female voice in the world: melodic, tuneful and distinctive." (NPR, 2013). My favorites: Rainy Days and Mondays, I Just Fall in Love Again, A Song for You, Ordinary Fool, and I Can Dream, Can’t I. Karen could sing anything. Thanks for the reaction.
Yes Yes Yes for Ordinary Fool, Desperado...etc
Great to see someone cite I Can Dream Can't I. 1938 ballad standard by Sammy Fain, orchestrated for Carpenters by 50s bandleader Billy May. It is one of the great tragedies of popular music that there was never a Carpenters standards album. (I like to imagine that Linda Ronstadt heard Karen do this one and got the idea to coax Nelson Riddle out of retirement to arrange her three stunning standards CDs...)
@@stevetournay6103Yes, indeed. What a great song and arrangement by Billy May. I’ll have to check out Linda Ronstadt’s CDs. Nelson Riddle, Billy May and Don Costa did great work for Frank Sinatra too. Karen and Richard doing an album of standards would have been fantastic!
A great song by the Carpenters , also a cover written by Leon Russell, is called A Song For You. Please do not pick the live version as it is severely edited. The original single is 4 minutes and 43 seconds long. Anything less is an edited version, which should never be done to the Carpenters. Also, check out their cover of Desperado by the Eagles! Purely Golden😮😊
Agree completely on all of the above. And I definitely prefer to the full version of A Song for You off the album of the same name. I also love Karen's voice on the Carpenter's version of Desperado off the Horizon album.
Richard Carpenter was a master at making music suited just for his sister Karen’s velvet vocals, he always wanted her voice to be backed by the Carpenter’s siqniture style of beautiful instrumental melodies with beautiful background choir like vocals . There was nobody else like The Carpenters and their style were inspired and copied by many.
This is a cover too. The song was written by the wonderful Leon Russell and Bonnie Bramlett.
Carpenters version was from 1971. Luther Vandross recorded it in 1983. They were both covering the song written by Leon Russell.
The original version by Delaney & Bonnie is worth a listen
The carpenters version is also a cover. The song came out in 1968
Carpenters in 1971 and Luther in 1983.
Written by Leon Russell & Bonnie Bramlett and recorded by Delaney & Bonnie in 1969 under the original song title Groupie (Superstar) . They released a second version in 1972.
Their first album Richard wrote 10 of the songs he sang lead on 5 and Karen on 5. "OFFERING" renamed to "TICKET TO RIDE" Karen also played bass on one of the songs as well as being the drummer.
You very rarely hear a true alto. Karen's voice is so distinctive and for some reason, it hits you right in the feels. Most of their ballads sound similar to each other and I love them all. If you want another great female singer with a sad story, check out "Mama Cass" Elliott of The Mamas and the Papas. You'd probably really like "California Dreamin'," although she is not featured on that one. Still worth checking out and a great intro to the band.
If you want to hear an Alto who kinda sorta sounds like … no she couldn’t, right? … well anyway. Search the channel of Tori Holub and check out some of her Short covers and long form, too.
For credibility: She is an invited singer at the Carpenters 55th Anniversary Celebration in Downey, CA this April. I’ve been getting goosebumps since October. Welcome to the party.
I think Karen's voice would be considered a contralto.
@@Rkbmomma I’m referring to Tori. She’s an Alto but her vertical range is nuts. She can cover Karen AND Olivia.
Karen had the most hauntingly beautiful I've ever heard. Those of us lucky enough to have grown up listening to her, miss her terribly to this day. It's great to see someone of your generation recognize the sheer beauty of her amazing voice. Great reaction, my friend. PS: RIP Karen. 💚
Oh, man: You should hear Harry Nilsson sing his song, "*Without You*"
Leon Russell wrote this and it was originally called GROUPIE.
Wonderful reaction and learning experience. Richard did a few lead vocals including “Drucilla Penny.” Superstar after Richard made the change in the lyrics is usually the version that is covered and arranged further. The Groupie version has “Sleep with me” the Richard versions (including Luther) has “Be with me” a softer tone.
The song has been covered for decades including last year by an up and coming vocalist named Tori Holub. The version she sang was arranged for her directly and I think it’s the bomb. I’ve been following her and she can do no wrong, IMHO. If you want to go outside the box, maybe react to her version? I’ll keyword to it as links generally fail for me. Happy New Year and keep exploring and learning about the music and how perceptions can change.
Joe
Tori Holub Superstar
It’s audio only.
Really enjoying your channel and your curiosity about the artist music. Superstar is my fav Carpenter song. Bless The Beast And The Children is a close second. A timeless message.
A- and B-sides of the same single, "Superstar"/"Bless the Beasts and Children" was the longest-charting 45 in the Carpenters' catalog.
You really need to listen to “You’re The One I Love”. Karen’s best love song in my opinion, and also “A Song For You, the studio version.
I had no idea Luther Vandross covered it. People think that the Carpenters wrote this, but their version was a cover too.
lots of people covered each others songs back in the day, or rather a song was written, and multiple singers would sing it.
it wasn't as big of a deal as it is today, when musicians are really starving to be original
If you want to hear a really dramatic and affecting version of this song listen to Bette Midler's version from her first album in 1972, around the same time as the Carpenters version. So very different and deep!
Though Luther's version was more dramatic,with that added flare he brings,Karen's was absolutely beautiful.Equal in my opinion.
Such a beautiful voice, gone too soon. 😢
Because you heard Luther Vandross version first.
Karen Carpenter was one the the top female vocalists of the 1970s. Check out "Top of the World", live at the White House for an upbeat song too
"So excited to hear more from the Carpenters " 😂 better tell your face lol
The Carpenters released this 1971, Luther VanDross 1983.
The Wrecking Crew is a deep dive that you should do, to understand how VAST their contribution to popular music is. There is a great documentary out there, as well.
try, one more time, this masquerade, ordinary fool, those good old dreams
Luther is fine though nobody can touch Karen with this song!
She could sing the phonebook and make it sound like heaven.
You can find the original on you tube. There was a change in a lyric to make it more radio freindly 😊
Loved the Carpenters but first fell in love with this song when I heard it live with Leon Russell on piano and Rita Coolidge singing.
Superstar has a connection to Joe Cocker! The writers Bonnie & Delaney Bramlett & Leon Russell were part of a concert tour band featuring Joe Cocker and a live album "Mad Dogs and Englishmen". On the double album, Superstar appears but sung by Rita Coolidge, who was one of the singers in the band. Of, course Joe Cocker sings "With A Little Help With My Friends" on the album along with another Beatles song "She Came In Through The Bathroom Window" React to another great Joe Cocker song "The Letter" sometime. Thanks.
Midler's name is pronounced bet.
It's "Bet" Midler, not Betty. She was a major performer in the seventies and eighties, who acted in Hocus Pocus, and had hit songs in The Rose, and Wind beneath my wings.
Check out Only Yesterday, Yesterday Once More, A Place to Hideaway, Top of the World and just so many!
@MMBxMOB Actually, I think Luther Vandross version of this song was released the year Karen passed away. So, youngblood check this out, check out these other great Carpenters songs that highlight that amazing voice, " Ordinary fool " Bless the beast and the children " Hurting each other "
If Karen doesn't get you by the end of "Long ago..." check your pulse, you might be a robot.
If you want to learn about the Wrecking Crew there is a movie/documentary that was made. I recommend you watch it. You will be amazed by who the musicians were and just how many hits they played on……Leon Russel and Glen Campbell were just 2 of the crew
I'll take this version over Luther's all day, every day.
Bro, do all her music! You will be very popular!
You have to listen to Karen Carpenter Christmas songs they’re really good too. You probably hear them on the radio.
As the story was told by Bobby Whitlock...Rita Coolidge told Leon Russell and Delaney Bramlet she had a dream about a girl listening to the radio and falling in love with the singer. Yes the song writing credit is Leon Russell and Bonnie Bramlet.. Delaney gave the credit to her. The original working title was "groupie".
Carpenters in 1971, and by Luther Vandross in 1983.
Most people usually identify more with the first version they hear of a song. I felt the same way with Paul Young's "Everytime You Go Away". I loved that song, then found the Halland Oates version.... I still like the Paul Young version better.
You should definitely listen to the Bette Midler version from her first album "The Divine Miss M" (nominated for Best Album Grammy in 1973). A completely different take from The Carpenters. Really mines the lyrics for their painful meaning.
I agree with you Luther killed this song! ❤ Love the Carpenters also. Another cover that you will love is disturbed version of the sound of silence. Trust me you will go crazy!
Luther and Karen both killed this Leon Russell song
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The Carpenters recorded Superstar first.
Maybe 4th or 5th. Delaney & Bonnie (original), Rita Coolidge, Bette Midler, and maybe Cher. Then Carpenters. Still that is what became the definitive version. Close to You they did 4th. Definitive version, again.
Actually the song was written by Leon Russell & Bonnie Bramlett (of the duo Delaney & Bonnie). First recorded by Delaney and Bonnie in 1969 and originally titled Groupie (Superstar). The Carpenters released their cover of it in 1971. Luther Vandross did his version in 1983..Delaney & Bonnie released a second version in 1972.
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Luther did lots of remakes, not just this song but many including Dionne Warwick songs
Have to disagree with you.Firstly Richard Carpenter's arrangement is the Definitive version.everyone even Luther Vandross uses it. Luther record it the year Karen died. On the Billboard top 100 chart. Carpenters #2 Luther Vandross #84
Not Bette ( Betty ) Midler, she pronounces it as Bet Midler, the Divine Miss M.
3 artists who you didn’t want to see get a hold of your song if you’re the original artist….Luther, Aretha and the Isley Bros…they absolutely torched so many covers! As to Luther in particular, some of his more infamous covers include IF ONLY FOR ONE NIGHT, CREEPIN’, LOVE WON’T LET ME WAIT, IF THIS WORLD WERE MINE, A HOUSE IS NOT A HOME, SINCE I LOST MY BABY…not to mention that the opening to his version of SUPERSTAR is a brief cover of UNTIL YOU COME BACK TO ME (THAT’S WHAT I’M GONNA DO).
Great reaction! Now do Luther's version!✌️💞
Check Dione Warwick vs Luther Vandross...1964 Anyoe Who had a heart..
Try some Carol King tunes. We've only just begun, It's too late, good tunes. Karen's voice was unique. Carol 's was pretty good. It's human nature, we like whatever was the original to us, the first thing we try, food, music, you name it, it's why we miss where we grew up, even if we had a crappy childhood, there is still something about those first memories we had interacting with the world. We will remember the good memories.
Never heard the Luther Vandross cover but this has always been fire.
I like your comments . The only thing I don’t like is when you choose one version over another. Most reviewers do that. When I hear different versions of the same song I like to note the highs and lows of each one. To me, it takes away the uniqueness of each artist to say you like one version of one more than another. That’s just me though.
Where are your headphones?😮
Do you think if this was reversed ie you heard the carpenters version first,had listened to it over the years growing up and just found out Luther had done a cover you might say the carpenters was your fav version?
Bette (pronunced bet)midler is a singer, comedian and actress one of her best known films is beaches.try wind beneath my wings from that or the rose from the film if the same name where she plays a famous singer on a downward spiral.
Karen sung this song in 1971. Luther recorded it in the 80's.
And she was sad....thats the bad part. Bad Mother, jealous mother. Told her not to eat too many cookies. She was never really overweight! She was beautiful!!
Now i have to hear Luther vandross sing this.
This song is about a groupie missing the object of their desire. Luther Vandross' version is more of a heartfelt love song. For me, I prefer the Carpenters' version because: nostalgia, probably. It's the version I grew up with.
Everyone is allowed their own taste to music n who they may like better Singing a song..This makes me think of Elvis ,that Black's were always against him for singing black music n just doing it better..So if this man likes Luther's better than Karen's that should be respected...
This is a Leon Russell song. He wrote it. It's about a groupie. It was originally called groupie.
Not sure if you can call this a cover since I think it was released just before the version by the songwriter and his band. Groupie (Superstar) was written by Delaney Bramlett, Leon Russell and Rita Coolidge. Delaney and Bonnie released their version with a significantly different arrangement. Karen Carpenter sings beautifully on their version which changes a few words and the title of the song. The Carpenters arrangement is very clean and frankly, a bit too schmaltzy compared to Delaney and Bonnie's version. The song is about a Groupie who has a fling with a guitar player. She sadly and naively believes that it was more than a fling and he'll come back to her. It's a sad, sad song and this just gets lost in the Carpenters arrangement.
Now you know!!?
Richard has a lisp.
The Wrecking Crew (Leon Russell was a member) th-cam.com/video/hhl-3EOYTkc/w-d-xo.html
There is a version of this song where her voice is even better here th-cam.com/video/F9Nm_0pC4FM/w-d-xo.html