Touhou 15.5: Antinomy of Common Flowers - Futo/Ichirin Story

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  • 𝘈𝘯 𝘜𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘨𝘰𝘵𝘪𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘋𝘶𝘰
    Futo's a fast character through and through, however her attacks aren't terribly powerful, rather she relies mainly on setting up tricky non-directional attacks with her plates. When using her projectiles or choice melee attacks she'll leave a large plate on the field, then when using her special moves they interact with said plates in different ways such as bouncing a fireball or arrows across them or teleporting to them. On top of that doing so breaks said plate, but in doing so it powers up Futo in the process.
    Ichirin however is a very direct heavy hitter. She's slow and her attacks have lag behind them, but her punches from Unzan pack one hell of a wallop. It may be more difficult to hit with her but those fists have amazing range and they deal some serious damage. Ichirin's specials also call out Unzan's fists in various ways, however keep in mind after each move there'll be a pink mist around Ichirin for a few seconds. During that time Unzan's on cool down and you won't be able to use him at all.
    Spell Cards
    0:44 - "Futo's Investigation"
    1:24 - Non-spell
    1:50 - Mallet Love Sign "Rolling-in-Riches Heart"
    3:32 - "Ichirin's Investigation"
    4:08 - Non-spell
    4:39 - Fire Madness Sign "Burning Hidden Bullet"
    6:36 - "An Irregular Perfect Possession"
    8:11 - Non-spell
    8:28 - Dream Rubble Sign "Wool-Colored Psychokinesis"
    10:55 - "A Shrine Maiden's Secret Training"
    12:18 - Non-spell
    12:29 - Thunder Spirit Sign "Mukou's Thunder Shot Fantasy Seal"
    13:56 - Dragon Kick Sign "Dragon's Asuka'i Kick"
    16:03 - "Report the Investigation Results!"
    17:49 - Non-spell
    18:05 - Strike Light Sign "Glory of Skanda's Noble Path"
    19:14 - Kick Slash Sign "Garuda's Shoutoku Slash"
    20:41 - Light Hermit Sign "Monk & Taoist of the Land of the Rising Sun"
    Translation's courtesy of the Touhou wiki

ความคิดเห็น • 43

  • @MrGamer9941
    @MrGamer9941 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I realized how much this incident must suck for everyone
    You let your guard down and you could be possessed, and it’s not just Youkai, humans can participate in this incident too if I remember correctly.
    Imagine just strolling down the street, looking at the sunset trying to forget all your troubles, clearing your mind and THEN BAM your neighbor possesses you lmao

    • @Flygoniaks
      @Flygoniaks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      According to PS4 ULIL, "those involved with the Urban Legend Incident are the ones most affected." They don't seem to explain WHY this is the case, but it satisfies as an explanation for why we only see a select few characters in this incident (because, you know, it's not like they would make movesets for EVERY character).
      Though it theoretically can happen to bystanders, it seems like it's much harder to pull off and serves no purpose.
      EDIT: Perhaps the reason it's tied to the Urban Legend Incident is because possession itself can be considered an urban legend? Either way, only the main characters wielding urban legends are affected.

    • @metallabx407
      @metallabx407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, I hate it when my neighbor just randomly possesses me

    • @viniciusc9004
      @viniciusc9004 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When the possession is compulsory, the slave can end it at will, so in that scenario, you could just tell your neighbor to get out

  • @djthunderheart
    @djthunderheart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This kinda feels like an anime arc considering how long these videos are with each pair and their side of the story.
    And ohhhhh boi that Discord notification ;w;

  • @Flygoniaks
    @Flygoniaks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    [20:27] *Well hi, everyone!* (I'm really appreciative of TH-camrs who acknowledge the fans)
    Anyways, Futo's idea (since I guess you didn't fully grasp it) was that the other teams lost to the Yorigamis because they were too "set" in their roles of master and slave. By alternating the roles of master and slave in their team, Futo and Ichirin would be a far more flexible combination that (theoretically) could figure out some quick/adaptive solution to "Absolute Loser."

    • @MegamanOmega184
      @MegamanOmega184  5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That was the idea, but she didn't come to that conclusion until after beating so many people. Keep in mind as Ichirin said before they set out they got in a huge fight before setting off over who should be the master and servant.
      She most likely got the idea that they could beat the Yorigami's cause she and Ichirin ended up working so fluently swapping between the role of master and slave. But again, she didn't come to that conclusion until after they starting winning a lot while doing so.

    • @Flygoniaks
      @Flygoniaks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I suppose so, but the way you seemed to question it in the annotations implied that you didn't quite get it. Sorry! I really appreciate how this channel interacts with the community. You and Bee are awesome at that.

    • @MaskedBeeX
      @MaskedBeeX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just get bored and look at comments sometimes :P

  • @Team_Orchid
    @Team_Orchid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Okay I'm glad I'm not the only one questioning Mokou/Reisen as a pair.

    • @gabrielwright-dunn9355
      @gabrielwright-dunn9355 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I feel like there's a roasted carrots joke there or something in there.

  • @yuanamat9335
    @yuanamat9335 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I like how the theme for the final bosses other than Joon and Shion is a remix of the final boss theme from Hisoutensoku

  • @forceedge2005
    @forceedge2005 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    [Plays Virtuous Pope/Stardust Crusaders in the background]
    Ichirin: You like spell card battles, right Futo? Specifically, the tactics of grazing bullets at close range? It makes your blood boil right!?
    Futo: Of course, I love spell card battles. But Ichirin, punching is against the rules.
    Reisien your literally partnered up with your master's arch-nemesis. Seeing how Mokou probably doesn't give a damn about the incident, what's your excuse?

  • @Wizzard220
    @Wizzard220 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really like that Doremy already makes mention of her plot with Sumireko. Her smug grin is good too~ A shame that Ichirin and Futo don't have a controlable fight against the Yorigami sisters, I don't remember if the ending states which one of them was the possessed.
    Also, I don't know if you are aware but Ichirin's forward attack usually breaks guards and can be used when swapping mid-combo. Similarly, her attack where she grabs the enemy and slams them gives you about 1s to chain her down fist (I think it's the down C). Similar combos exist for other characters with different button combinations. Next week is smug queen and the useless little bunny only good for her sex appeal™ and I hope you use Doremy a lot :3

  • @MrNoobomnenie
    @MrNoobomnenie 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    20:32
    I can't believe Byakuren here just straight up says "Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer"

    • @zzzmeta4555
      @zzzmeta4555 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Byakuren plays Darkest Dungeon confirmed?

  • @mariofun21
    @mariofun21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sumireko & Doremy's final stge can be summarised by imgur.com/gallery/NcPQX

  • @rachelwalmart
    @rachelwalmart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:46 I don't like that I like this joke

  • @c.a.1494
    @c.a.1494 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been waiting for this, loved the duo 😂.

  • @Xinxax
    @Xinxax 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah heck, that tricked me
    I was about to check my Discord quickly until I saw the editor's message

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    15:52 Assuming this doesn't turn into a situation the likes of IaMP/SWR/HM where the *FINAL BOSS* wins in the end, of course..

  • @gabrielwright-dunn9355
    @gabrielwright-dunn9355 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the punchy commentary this episode. Keep it up! I have to know though, would it be spoilery to make a Looney Tunes joke with the next pair?

  • @hassanico9999
    @hassanico9999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sooo apparently TH-cam is killing all annotations forever. Should I go back and catch up on all my backlog of your older videos?

  • @breadokey8607
    @breadokey8607 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    #ItsYourGirlFuto

  • @azureempyrean64
    @azureempyrean64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Catnap
    Sleep with the fishes
    Heres my $10

  • @notunotme1164
    @notunotme1164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This story gives me ptsd

  • @extremmefan7305
    @extremmefan7305 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lmfao the Discord notif

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    17:50 So they don't even meet the Yorigami Sisters at all, huh?
    Also, I need to reiterate how grateful I am that there is a music for Final Bosses that aren't the Main Deal, this time.
    I was getting real tired of hearing the Final Boss Theme play in battles that didn't involve the Final Boss at all... *Especially* regarding the last fighting game.

  • @TheDarkMarioAndSonic
    @TheDarkMarioAndSonic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I ask you to do the same you did for 14.5 and say what's the urban legend for the new characters? I'm really curious.

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    22:36 At this rate, bringing the Moonbitch Sisters into the games almost sounds like a good idea...

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:47 Even I am trying to wrap my head around what exactly is happening.

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So... Stop me if I'm wrong...
    Every time someone enters Perfect Possession, whoever is not in control enters the Dream World by taking her Dream Self's place while still being somewhat connected to the waking world. But Dream Selves don't necessarily return to the Dream World once their Main Selves leave the Dream World, causing them to run rampant across Gensokyo.
    Is that correct?

    • @MegamanOmega184
      @MegamanOmega184  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty much. At first it was an inconsequential difference because at first, there's really no difference between the character and their dream self (initially a dream sweller wouldn't even _realize_ they were a dream dweller in Gensokyo and just think they're the original). But as they keep doing these perfect possession battles over and over again, this allows the dream residents to realize what's going on so they can get away and stay in Gensokyo.

  • @possesedfrisk6341
    @possesedfrisk6341 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was stuck on Stage 5 for about an hour and a half ;-;

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find it funny how the Taoists are the Masters of both pairs.

  • @MagGunDO17
    @MagGunDO17 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    All hail Unknown X ~ Occultly Madness

  • @Garzaromera
    @Garzaromera 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does nobody realise that they barely use the new themes, I think don't even use them, they don't use doremy's theme in her battle or tenshi's theme in her battle.

    • @MegamanOmega184
      @MegamanOmega184  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's something I've been annoyed about since Touhou 14.5. It's fine if you want to use new themes unique to the fighter for the main game, but not at the expense of the characters main themes. I really wish one day they went back to the way SWR did it in that some battle themes are songs unique to SWR and some battle themes are the characters themes

  • @lunatic0verlord10
    @lunatic0verlord10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:45 Wait! *She's not even damaged?!* But she's the same Stage as one and two Stages bellow the other! *HOW?!!*
    Was she holding back that much in LoLK?

    • @MegamanOmega184
      @MegamanOmega184  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Keep in mind, ZUN's said that Stage placement doesn't always reflect a characters power. Just take SA for instance where Yuugi is no doubt the strongest character of that cast, but is the Stage 3 boss.
      Doremy's in a similar case. I wouldn't say she's "one of the four oni's of the mountain" strong, but we are talking about fighting the Ruler of Dreams in the Dreamworld after all.
      Similarly, yeah she had no need to go all out in LoLK. Really, judging by her dialogue she seemed to have just been testing the protagonist to see if she thinks they could even stand up to the threat ahead.

    • @lunatic0verlord10
      @lunatic0verlord10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MegamanOmega184 So she really *was* holding back that much in LoLK, then.
      Don't mess with the Baku Queen.

  • @n-d17
    @n-d17 5 ปีที่แล้ว

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