If you’re having speed wobble issues; Make sure you’re over the front wheel with your weight Consider stiffening the rear compression damping to keep more weight on the front. ‘consider lowering the front ride height. Setting up the bike correctly is the best thing you can do. If all else fails, steering damper.
Came here to say the same thing. Also the stock steering dampers are almost useless (depending on riding style 😊). I also spent a few days setting up the suspension. Plus with tips from the vets at the track. My Zx-10r is solid and cuts into corners way different than stock settings.
Long time ago , i had a tank slapper at 125 mph and almost ate it on rhe freeway. Bec I have years of experience, I did exactly this and relaxed, and it correct itself and as the speed went down. It happens and be careful guys. Ride safe and at your level.
@@flavioahmetlli2160ngl a tank slapper at any speed in traffic these days is a life or death situation when you don’t know how to correct it. So your argument is shitty.
@flavioahmetlli2160, yet he is the perfect guy to do so. Considering he's been through it... and survived it without losing control. Your comment Is misplaced and ignorant.
I’ve been riding for only 6 years and videos such as this have helped me stay out of bad situations or doing dumb 💩 basically. Thanks 🙏🏾 Ride Safe Guys!!!
Dude, after having seen hours of moto videos, you are the first to teach me this. I mean I dont steer cramped up, but was allways curious to what makes bikes slap. Thank you for making it so, that even a child could understand.
That was one of the weirdest things to get used to when I first started riding dirt bikes. Granted you don’t get death wobble on a dirt bike when you’re just doing trail riding. But getting the confidence to just actually ride the bike, and not try to control the bike (sounds counterintuitive I know, but it’s the best way I can put it into words) it gets so much easier, starts to actually feel like an extension of your body, not just something you’re maneuvering.
Elbows in loose grip on the bars, you’d be surprised by how much the wind can affect you at high speeds… just pick your head up above your wind screen at 140 and you’ll find all the way out lol steering dampener helps a lot of people too, I don’t use one because I’ve gotten used to riding without it but must newer bikes come with one built in your grip and elbow position is still extremely important tho..
Everyone that rides knows what your supposed to do yet almost noone that rides actually does what your suposed to do when it happens. Almost all modern bikes come from factory with steering stabilizers of some sort and alot are electronic. The first addition to your new bike should be an additional adjustable stabilizer. Apart from greatly reducing possibilities of tank slappers they can be tightened and keep the bike from wanting to swing out while doing rolling stoppies... win win
I'll be riding a bike soon. This was SUPER IMPORTANT for me to learn. Thank you bros! I don't know what will happen so it's good to get this from your super experience
Serious question bro, what’s the best way to actually test this? I mean yea I know obviously if it’s bad enough I’m gonna feel it in my steering or my bars but I mean like what am I looking for there when it’s going out? Is there a trick to test it other than taking it apart and swapping it every so often
@@dillonrogers8744or you can take away the weight of the front wheel by lifting the front up, if the steering isnt feeling smooth or if your feeling a slight resistance while steering it with one fingern , or even „feeling“ the balls of the bearing its worn out
@@dillonrogers8744 like any bearing, when it blows out or gets grit into it, it will start to feel grindy at first then over time the grit will cause a difference in the resistance in the handlebar movement.
Sometimes checking air pressure in tires helps lesson chances of wobble. Also check alignment of front forks ect. Might need front tire balanced or a new tire. Just saying
can occur also as a result of bumps, potholes, aggressive breaking etc... you can anticipate in your head how to handle the situation by loosening your grip, or like most of us, you freak out, peddle the breaks and try controling the rouge bike because a 50 tonnes truck is heading your way 😰
Additionally: speed wobbles are mostly caused by two things: speed and suspension imbalance. If you start to wobble, remove speed, and that will almost always help. Remember, a rolling bike wants to stay upright.
Great tip. For the Cruiser and Chopper boys like myself. We lean back and curv our backs when it comes to highway speeds. By straightening our arms there are no room for the bars to move. By our backs leaning backwards we are now one with the bike in terms of stability.
To be honest, once a tank slapper starts it's going to be more luck than skill as to whether you stay shiny side up or go under the wheels of oncoming traffic.
close in grip is a personal preference, doesnt mean you white knuckle/death grip it, arms loose and roll on and off the throttle and gently add and remove brake and clutch is all you need. i prefer to grab the grips closer as the rider in the video does, especially with my throttle hand, because i use my pointer finger as a control for the throttle to keep it in place, for example if i hit a speed bump or big dip it locks the throttle in the same position so im not accelerating or changing the position mid bumb, which can lead to loss of traction
I've been watching your videos and get very good I'm about to get a motorcycle in a few months and have a car just to do regular routines at grocery shopping in Big Buck... I learned a lot ‼️
Since day one I started riding like this. I have had so many "Death wobble attempts" but they don't escalate further than just a little shake. I probably saved my ass already thanks to this grip
You're also showing a honda that doesn't have a steering damper, then showing a GSXR that does. That makes a huge difference to how a bike responds. But your advice on grip is correct 👌
The call these PIO's in airplanes "Pilot induced oscillations" My instructors had me fly with two fingers only to help train that. Most machines will drive/pilot themselves if left alone, don't screw it up with human elements.
Dirty wind, road conditions, going too fast for the bikes aeros. There's a reason adv and naked bikes are usually limited to 140-160. Only tank slappers I have ever had were on my 2017 FZ-09 both times at around 120 smooth freshly paved road but it has no aero at all and because you sit on it like a dirt bike your body is just a huge wind sail even when trying to tuck.
Nearly got into an accident like that while going downhill. On my BMX bike... Was going like 20-30kmh (10-20mp/h) or something. Recovered quick by calming down. Remember, in serious situations, always stay calm so you don't make things worse while under pressure.
You need to mention At an naked bike its possible that you get a speed wobble but an small one What i do and prefer is Tight grip on the handles and dont try any corrections The wobble will stop And at speed over 200kmh or 120mph on an naked try to almost lay on your tank then you onky have small wobbles at an shitty road like at pot holes but these wobbles stop at maximum 1 sek I hope that helps
Bike when it moves stabilizes itself that's just basic physics. Don't hold it too tight and try to stabilize it yourself, once it gets out of control it's very hard to bring it back
In aviation we call this PIO (pilot induced oscillation) it is much less dangerous in the air unless you are a military or stunt pilot but the same physics and principle are maintained.
There is no such a thing as loose or tight grip. You don't want to fly away when your bike hits a pot hole at high speed, and you also don't want to grab too hard to cause wobbling. My advice: dont ride at insane speeds that might cause wobbling on the road. Do it on the track. 🙏
Tell that kids not been riding long. Easiest and safest way to never have happen steering stabilizer. The cause is from the front tire coming off the ground and not moving as fast as the back when it makes contact (power wheely). That's how the wobble starts. Been riding for 27 year had biked stretched 9 over on the back wheel stabilizer saved my ass every time.
It’s not always wheelies and speed that cause death wobbles, bumps and misalignment the front and back wheel will also cause them. I have gotten speed wobbles at 30mph on a ninja 250 promise you I was not power wheeling that thing😂😂
Another good reason for the ice cone grip if your leaning to the right your more flexible in regard to moving your torso and bending the arm so your elbow and forearm lines up with the bar and throttle hand 👌
Actually a steering damper is the sure way to fix it and then you don’t have to worry about dying from your dumb loose grip when you hit a bump and your hand falls off the grip. I’d say it’s bad advice. Also setting suspension up properly is important too. Too stiff of a setup can also cause tank slap…
On my 400, I went over a bump I usually go over but this time I was getting it more (about 85-90) and it started to do that but I fixed my death grip problem long ago and it corrected itself immediately
I'm not gonna lie, this seems like a stupid way to learn to grip 😂... but your 100% correct as usual my dude. Your info is always on point and should be taken serious. My worst accident to date was my first "Tank Slapper" I had no idea about this Beautiful Situation that most riders will find themself in... I literally tried to bail off my bike when it happened and I don't need to tell you how that turned out. Broken Bones, Rashed Ass, Bruised Ego, Wrecked Bike and Lesson Learned ... Ride Safe People 🤟🇨🇦
This can happen on any street bike just more common on rockets and older dynas. I have a 99 dyna that will do the death wobble sometimes at high speeds while going around a turn. Spooky as hell but once you learn how to minimize it most of the fear goes away. I relax my grip and slow down at a normal rate. Works every time.🤙
Just hold on loosely,
But don't let go.
If you cling too tightly.
You're gonna lose control.
Thanks 38 Special.
You’re a legend
Do you lightly try to correct it? Or just lightly grip?
Letting go always works
😆 🤣 😂
1,000 🤣😂🤣
I'm in a death grip situation right now and decided to pull up a TH-cam tutorial
Underrated😂
😂😂😂😂
Bro, I was looking this up during a death wobble and hit an ad before the tutorial which caused me to die.
😂😂😂😂
Yeah bro, just hold on comfy loose, decent, you should be good 👍🏼
I just removed my grips and now have ice-cream cones there instead... Perfect job problem solved
What they like in hot weather
@@andrewjohnson6297delicious
Lmaooooo
😭🤣
😂😂😂
One of the other deadliest mistakes you can make on a bike is riding naked and taking a dump at top speed.
Lmaooo
💯💯
Just keep your ass up off the seat and it’ll all blow out the back 😂😂😂
This is actually a regular part of my daily commute. Sounds like a skill issue 🧐
I want try this now! 😂😂😂
Not a Death Grips short I expected, but thanks for tips as always
the wobble (aye aye)
@@popip0643wind up my sleeves
I thought it was gna be the chic on the back while cruisin triple digitzzz 😂😂😂
Noided
is that where they got their name from?
If you’re having speed wobble issues;
Make sure you’re over the front wheel with your weight
Consider stiffening the rear compression damping to keep more weight on the front.
‘consider lowering the front ride height.
Setting up the bike correctly is the best thing you can do.
If all else fails, steering damper.
This ☝🏾
can u speak english please im still new to biking 😅
Don’t take this the wrong way, but if the above doesn’t make sense.
Take your bike to a suspension setup specialist.
Came here to say the same thing. Also the stock steering dampers are almost useless (depending on riding style 😊). I also spent a few days setting up the suspension. Plus with tips from the vets at the track. My Zx-10r is solid and cuts into corners way different than stock settings.
No to all of this lol.
Long time ago , i had a tank slapper at 125 mph and almost ate it on rhe freeway. Bec I have years of experience, I did exactly this and relaxed, and it correct itself and as the speed went down.
It happens and be careful guys. Ride safe and at your level.
Lmao guy speeding at 125 mph and almost dying is giving us advice. How about you give yourself some advice lol.
@@flavioahmetlli2160we get what u trynna do but your comment is out of this situation.
@@flavioahmetlli2160ngl a tank slapper at any speed in traffic these days is a life or death situation when you don’t know how to correct it. So your argument is shitty.
@flavioahmetlli2160, yet he is the perfect guy to do so. Considering he's been through it... and survived it without losing control. Your comment Is misplaced and ignorant.
@@flavioahmetlli2160 look at that you almost did something there
I’ll make sure to bring ice cream on my next ride🫡
eat b4 u go
@@lionheart8083 oh oops
I’ve been riding for only 6 years and videos such as this have helped me stay out of bad situations or doing dumb 💩 basically.
Thanks 🙏🏾
Ride Safe Guys!!!
The cone-grip changed my riding style for the better!!!
Dude, after having seen hours of moto videos, you are the first to teach me this. I mean I dont steer cramped up, but was allways curious to what makes bikes slap. Thank you for making it so, that even a child could understand.
People don’t realize how underrated Spunky is.
O H L I N S D A M P E R
@ZaiexO You know...people like you irritate me. Just Google it. It's 2024...get with it.
If you’re a bike owner and you don’t know what a steering damper is, give up the keys. 🤦🏼♂️
The video shows what it does silly. It prevents this from happening@ZaiexO
@rockbasskicker oh yea, well I won't give up my keys, what now?
@@rockbasskickerI don’t even own a bike and know what a steering damper is.
That was one of the weirdest things to get used to when I first started riding dirt bikes. Granted you don’t get death wobble on a dirt bike when you’re just doing trail riding.
But getting the confidence to just actually ride the bike, and not try to control the bike (sounds counterintuitive I know, but it’s the best way I can put it into words) it gets so much easier, starts to actually feel like an extension of your body, not just something you’re maneuvering.
The hardest thing to do is let go of the handle bars and let it work itself out, but it works!
Im really glad theres atleast one smart mf in these comments 😭
Like let go let go or just lightly grip it?
@@BuckMaster420-ce1dqeither one works
@@BuckMaster420-ce1dqLet go brah the bike aint gonna flip on ya
Been there before, I let both hands off going 110 mph. It worked😅😂
Elbows in loose grip on the bars, you’d be surprised by how much the wind can affect you at high speeds… just pick your head up above your wind screen at 140 and you’ll find all the way out lol steering dampener helps a lot of people too, I don’t use one because I’ve gotten used to riding without it but must newer bikes come with one built in your grip and elbow position is still extremely important tho..
Everyone that rides knows what your supposed to do yet almost noone that rides actually does what your suposed to do when it happens. Almost all modern bikes come from factory with steering stabilizers of some sort and alot are electronic. The first addition to your new bike should be an additional adjustable stabilizer. Apart from greatly reducing possibilities of tank slappers they can be tightened and keep the bike from wanting to swing out while doing rolling stoppies... win win
They don't stop the ones that throw you.
U run the stock stabilizer plus an additional aftermarket? Like GPR, Ohlins, Scott’s?
@TheKrazyTim
Thanks for real advice man.
This reminds me of my first drum lessons. Spent a month on just how to be holding the sticks while drilling simple but effective grooves.
Thanks bro! I really appreciate your tips and videos on motorcycle riding...ride safe!✌️
I'll be riding a bike soon. This was SUPER IMPORTANT for me to learn. Thank you bros! I don't know what will happen so it's good to get this from your super experience
Just got a Suzuki R1000; used to the cruiser so needing all these tips! Thank you. 🙏
Make sure your steering head bearings are not worn
Serious question bro, what’s the best way to actually test this? I mean yea I know obviously if it’s bad enough I’m gonna feel it in my steering or my bars but I mean like what am I looking for there when it’s going out? Is there a trick to test it other than taking it apart and swapping it every so often
@@dillonrogers8744 weight on back seat to get front forks in the air, move steering back and forth, feel for flat spots
@@dillonrogers8744or you can take away the weight of the front wheel by lifting the front up, if the steering isnt feeling smooth or if your feeling a slight resistance while steering it with one fingern , or even „feeling“ the balls of the bearing its worn out
@@dillonrogers8744 like any bearing, when it blows out or gets grit into it, it will start to feel grindy at first then over time the grit will cause a difference in the resistance in the handlebar movement.
Lord farquard biking is crazy
Lol bro
"Oh shoot I don't have an ice cream cone to hold in my hand before I get on my motorcycle today"
*_dies_*
Sometimes checking air pressure in tires helps lesson chances of wobble. Also check alignment of front forks ect. Might need front tire balanced or a new tire. Just saying
As someone who's looking into getting a motorbike, I find this very useful, thank you
can occur also as a result of bumps, potholes, aggressive breaking etc... you can anticipate in your head how to handle the situation by loosening your grip, or like most of us, you freak out, peddle the breaks and try controling the rouge bike because a 50 tonnes truck is heading your way 😰
Additionally: speed wobbles are mostly caused by two things: speed and suspension imbalance. If you start to wobble, remove speed, and that will almost always help. Remember, a rolling bike wants to stay upright.
Don't do wheelies at high speeds, because when you bring the front back down it can start the death wobbles
Depends on how you come down
@@MauryanEON*can*
@@MauryanEON You only need the front wheel to be slightly turned for this to happen
Exactly what I needed!!!
Having a passenger almost eliminates this risk, because of the weight on the rear wheel
Honestly explained really well sick video!
Great tip. For the Cruiser and Chopper boys like myself. We lean back and curv our backs when it comes to highway speeds. By straightening our arms there are no room for the bars to move. By our backs leaning backwards we are now one with the bike in terms of stability.
i haven't seen your videos in so long . you taught me so much before I bought my bike
Also a steering damper may help prevent the tank slapper aswell
This is actually really good advise. Listen up kids
Excellent advice my man!
To be honest, once a tank slapper starts it's going to be more luck than skill as to whether you stay shiny side up or go under the wheels of oncoming traffic.
You can also install a steering dampener that helps!!!
Plus a really good steering damper!!! I have always rode Gixxers but I would not cruise a mile without a damper
close in grip is a personal preference, doesnt mean you white knuckle/death grip it, arms loose and roll on and off the throttle and gently add and remove brake and clutch is all you need. i prefer to grab the grips closer as the rider in the video does, especially with my throttle hand, because i use my pointer finger as a control for the throttle to keep it in place, for example if i hit a speed bump or big dip it locks the throttle in the same position so im not accelerating or changing the position mid bumb, which can lead to loss of traction
I've been watching your videos and get very good I'm about to get a motorcycle in a few months and have a car just to do regular routines at grocery shopping in Big Buck... I learned a lot ‼️
my hand when i do the ice cream cone thing: 🤛
I have always been taught to accelerate to get out of a wobble surly letting it be loose will just wobble more
Really good advice simple but should never be overlooked
Since day one I started riding like this. I have had so many "Death wobble attempts" but they don't escalate further than just a little shake. I probably saved my ass already thanks to this grip
Someone once told me to pretend like I’m holding 2 baby chickens in each hand, that’s about how much you should be gripping
Its usually due to an imbalance in the frontforks
First thing you should check when experiencing wobbles
I knew this after 15 years of riding but thanks for putting the info out there for newer riders! 😇👌🏻
You're also showing a honda that doesn't have a steering damper, then showing a GSXR that does.
That makes a huge difference to how a bike responds.
But your advice on grip is correct 👌
Even though I ride Hd, This is one of the best sport bike tips I’ve seen.
I had a 2000 Wide Glide that would do this around 123mph
@@sloppydog5427 🙂
That's what I always say loose and comfortable if you're not comfortable you shouldn't be going fast and pushing your limits smh.
Very good. Supersports rider, 40yrs, experience.
Thank you my brother for the information
This right here is some of the best advice any rider could have
The call these PIO's in airplanes "Pilot induced oscillations" My instructors had me fly with two fingers only to help train that. Most machines will drive/pilot themselves if left alone, don't screw it up with human elements.
Great information, thanks!
Of course👊🏻💯
Nice tip....😎😎😎 People need to pay attention more.... To b relaxed not tense...
Instructions unclear, cone melts after a minute of riding
Wonder what causes the shit to even happen. Same thing happens on skateboards. Totally different but still
Dirty wind, road conditions, going too fast for the bikes aeros.
There's a reason adv and naked bikes are usually limited to 140-160. Only tank slappers I have ever had were on my 2017 FZ-09 both times at around 120 smooth freshly paved road but it has no aero at all and because you sit on it like a dirt bike your body is just a huge wind sail even when trying to tuck.
I see a MotoVlogger i immediately subscribe
Nearly got into an accident like that while going downhill.
On my BMX bike...
Was going like 20-30kmh (10-20mp/h) or something.
Recovered quick by calming down.
Remember, in serious situations, always stay calm so you don't make things worse while under pressure.
I thought for a hot second you were going to suggest keeping an emergency ice cream cone on you at all times while biking haha
I always found Dunlop tires great for causing this because they always wore unevenly.
You need to mention
At an naked bike its possible that you get a speed wobble but an small one
What i do and prefer is
Tight grip on the handles and dont try any corrections
The wobble will stop
And at speed over 200kmh or 120mph on an naked try to almost lay on your tank then you onky have small wobbles at an shitty road like at pot holes but these wobbles stop at maximum 1 sek
I hope that helps
Bike when it moves stabilizes itself that's just basic physics. Don't hold it too tight and try to stabilize it yourself, once it gets out of control it's very hard to bring it back
In aviation we call this PIO (pilot induced oscillation) it is much less dangerous in the air unless you are a military or stunt pilot but the same physics and principle are maintained.
There is no such a thing as loose or tight grip. You don't want to fly away when your bike hits a pot hole at high speed, and you also don't want to grab too hard to cause wobbling. My advice: dont ride at insane speeds that might cause wobbling on the road. Do it on the track. 🙏
Similar technique to car control. Gripping too hard numbs feel and doesn’t allow the vehicle to do the little micro corrections it needs to
Raise the front wheel. We call them wheelies..
Bad advice
What happens if you slow down/back brake while it’s in the wobble
Then you need an ice cream sandwich grip.
Thanks for the advice👍
And lean forward to make the front end more stable
Also, set your front and rear suspension droop
The vid and the comment section is bunch of legends man ong
That’s the best advice I ever heard about riding bikes .😮
I love how dude looks like classic stoner/slacker, but constantly drops great bits of knowledge. (Also all that don't judge by appearance stuff.)
Thanks for this 👍🏾
I love the fact that I know this from pure practice/time on the road.
Yes but where do you find an ice cone when the tank slapping starts?
Wow this has happened to me so much (almost tank slapping) without even realizing. Good thing i had a good grip to start with
STABILIZER IS A MUST. don't depend on the stock stabilizer. Buy another one.
Tell that kids not been riding long. Easiest and safest way to never have happen steering stabilizer. The cause is from the front tire coming off the ground and not moving as fast as the back when it makes contact (power wheely). That's how the wobble starts. Been riding for 27 year had biked stretched 9 over on the back wheel stabilizer saved my ass every time.
It’s not always wheelies and speed that cause death wobbles, bumps and misalignment the front and back wheel will also cause them. I have gotten speed wobbles at 30mph on a ninja 250 promise you I was not power wheeling that thing😂😂
Get a gpr stabalizer,peoblem solved
Steering damper is supposed to stop that
Well, I've never encountered a better reason to buy ice cream cones. Guess I'm off to the store.
Another good reason for the ice cone grip if your leaning to the right your more flexible in regard to moving your torso and bending the arm so your elbow and forearm lines up with the bar and throttle hand 👌
i was always was told to just throttle thru the tank slapper
Chances are you're not going to get the chance due to clinging on with your fingertips as the bars are wrenched from your hands.
This is something I didn’t realize I was already doing correctly. Idk what to say, just seems like common sense
This dude is probably the best “taint” slapper in his state😂😂😂
Actually a steering damper is the sure way to fix it and then you don’t have to worry about dying from your dumb loose grip when you hit a bump and your hand falls off the grip. I’d say it’s bad advice. Also setting suspension up properly is important too. Too stiff of a setup can also cause tank slap…
Great advice brother. You may have just saved someones life
On my 400, I went over a bump I usually go over but this time I was getting it more (about 85-90) and it started to do that but I fixed my death grip problem long ago and it corrected itself immediately
Almost got me last year on 290 in Chicago. Basically let go and clasped on with my legs. Bike corrected itself and I went home and had a beer!
tank slapper taking me out 😂😂
I'm not gonna lie, this seems like a stupid way to learn to grip 😂... but your 100% correct as usual my dude. Your info is always on point and should be taken serious. My worst accident to date was my first "Tank Slapper" I had no idea about this Beautiful Situation that most riders will find themself in... I literally tried to bail off my bike when it happened and I don't need to tell you how that turned out. Broken Bones, Rashed Ass, Bruised Ego, Wrecked Bike and Lesson Learned ... Ride Safe People 🤟🇨🇦
Ooooo thats why when he shifted exactly what you said happens wow , great video man !!!!!!
Some more advice.... don't do speeds that cld potentially kill you!!
They can happen at any speed
This can happen on any street bike just more common on rockets and older dynas. I have a 99 dyna that will do the death wobble sometimes at high speeds while going around a turn. Spooky as hell but once you learn how to minimize it most of the fear goes away. I relax my grip and slow down at a normal rate. Works every time.🤙