Yes it does depend on the person but that person needs skill and experience at triple digits The problem with any sport bike does not arise at 30-40mph in reference to the rider
one of the biggest things with learning on a 600rr is it's gonna take longer to get over the fear of it, and you're gonna be sketched out at slow speed stuff... especially if you ride a twitchy AF cable throttle 2005 CBR600rr where the on/off is super twitchy lol. i taught myself to ride it last season, my first bike ever but i was 46 years old, and I'm past the 'death wish' years... old enough to take it slow and really learn it, respect it and have the discipline not to weave thru traffic at 170mph. I've done some dumb shit while learning, and I'm STILL learning... you never stop learning. it's not for everyone but if you REALLY WANT IT, get it and respect it. take it SLOW and have discipline. i know in my 20's had i gotten one i wouldn't have had the discipline to learn how to actually steer at speed and all that... I'd been one of those dummies who takes a corner at top speed, goes wide and splatters thru the trees 200 yards. if you're naturally skiddish, don't get a 600 either. ❤😊
@SpunkyBoyy black, I thought the 400 fairings would fit on it, but unfortunately, they don't. So I'm gonna wait until someone starts making them and then order a custom set and use the OEM as a backup.
Same I just got my 2024 ninja 500 motorcycle about three months ago as my first motorcycle to learn on and it’s been great but surprisingly I’m already bored on it and looking for a 600 or 1000 motorcycle now that I’m comfortable with riding on motorcycles now.
got a 600 for my first bike never rode anything before besides driving cars but its been about 4 months and im loving it just stay out of power band at first and ease into it
Hey man thinking of getting a Motorbike too, I've had 4 cars previously but looking for something different. I just love the: 'get on and go, and get there quick' vibe it's got. Do you prefer your bike to a car? What's the pro's and cons you think
@@TzoHill i prefer the bike the main con is not having the room to carry stuff i got a backpack that does good but bigger things and its getting to be fall so when its under 70 it feels pretty chilly the pros are you get to have fun anywhere you go for me lol
I've just placed a deposit on a 2024 zx6r anniversary edition. I've got 10 years riding experience. I'm glad I've had this time prior to getting a 600, as I can use and appreciate the power more from having ridden other machines.
I spend a lot of time watching different moto vloggers and moto content creators. You’re definitely my favorite. You got it. Keep it up brother. I’m that much more knowledgeable now because of the stuff you put out on this channel. Thank you from a future beginner rider🫶🏽
That means so much to me! I love teaching new riders, I’m glad to help in any way I can! Motorcycles have brought me so much joy in my life, and taught me so many different things! Thank you❤️
Deceptive speed and braking... You get up to high speeds faster than you think and you coming to a stop takes longer than you think. With that said, I love my R6 and started on it.
According to the Solomon Curve, driving an average of 10mph over the speed limit actually significantly decreases your chances of crashing. In both cars, and motorcycles. That doesn't mean everyone should speed. It means that driving faster than the cars around you makes it easier for your brain to comprehend spatial awareness, and thus allows you to avoid collisions. It's the exact opposite if you're below the speed limit. That alone should be an argument for buying a 600cc bike. If someone gets a 600 and can't handle it, that's their problem. People need to stop asking other people what kind of bike is good for them. Nobody knows what is good for them but them.
@@UTUBE3JC That's not what was said though. The argument is being made that in order to safely pass people on the highway, you need to be able to accelerate that 10-15mph within 2-3 seconds. A lot of 400cc bikes cannot do that. It takes you ages to pass a semi truck going 65, if you're also trying to pass at the same speed.
@@Smootier to get from 65 to 85 on an r3 for example, in gear 5, it takes about 4-5 seconds….and it’s never a good idea to just increase too much speed out of the blue because the cars in front won’t think you are going to catch up that fast and may merge in front of or into you…
@@Smootier to think that it takes a 600cc bike in order to “safely pass” cars on the highway is a lie if y’all are seeing this a 300cc bike is just as fast as most cars on the road from 0-100 (usually faster)
@@UTUBE3JC I'm not sure you're really understanding. Nobody is saying you need a 600cc to pass vehicles. A 300cc motorcycle being able to travel at 60mph is entirely irrelevant to the point. It's about having agility at speed. You factually do not have the agility riding a 300cc bike at speed, that you do a 600. They do not compare. It's not even close.
I’m convinced that the only people advocating for starting on a 600 are people who have already been riding for a few years. When I started riding, my old ninja 500 felt like the fastest thing on the planet. Then when I got the 650, THAT felt like the fastest thing on the planet. I finally got a zx6 and suddenly the 650 felt like a toy, the zx6 was terrifyingly fast. Now, I’ve got an XSR 900 and the zx6 feels so slow in comparison even though they’re comparable in speed. The lack of torque on a 600 makes it feel really slow NOW. But if I had just started out? I would have been terrified on a zx6.
It’s always better to work ur way up imo. The way u described is how I was taught do it as a kid. I also feel like that’s the safest approach, you don’t learn much overnight it’s more of a overtime kind of thing. Thanks for sharing!
I upgraded from a CBR300r to a GSXR600 and I never look back, but I'd regret getting it as my first I'm glad I trained up, it's a big difference on your body and control but I absolutely love it, great video
Started on my father in law’s Suzuki GSXR 750 1991, never had issues. As long as you control the bike and act accordingly everything will be alright. The only time I dropped the bike I wasn’t even riding, I missed judged the bike’s weight and next thing I know I dropped whilst stationary. 😂😤
Lowkey glad I started on an ‘83 Yamaha parallel twin cruiser my grandpa and I had to kinda fix up together. Grateful Not just for the memories, but it had like 40hp max lmao
I started with a 150 cc, got hit off a couple times dropped it a few times and got the hang of it really good. Now I’ve upgraded to a 250 cc and am getting a better hang of faster speeds and turns. Now that I’m getting used to it more power is almost a necessity on the highway. Ride your ride everybody enjoy what you have💯
Bro I started on a 1200 cc Victory octane😂…. Just got a 2021 mt10 after 2 years of not riding…. Totally has to do with how mature you are and being coordinated… if you have a hard time doing anything in life.. a big boy bike is going to be a hard experience.
I started on a 2003 R6. Got my license on it also. 3 months later I bought my dream bike, 2015 R1. I also just recently bought a 2004 CBR1000. I’ve been riding for 3 years with no issues. In my honest opinion, it depends on the person, if they have any understanding of how motorcycles work and how dangerous they can be if mishandled.
I went from a 50cc straight to a 900. It's like learning to ride a bicycle, when you learn it you got it. I think it's the same as going from a low HP car to a high HP car. It's better to have available power when you want it and start slow then to keep thinking you wish you had more. Definitely agree with the rider aids though, ABS is an absolute must with higher power if you are not looking for a coffin.
got myself a 99' ZX6R with only the experience of dirt bike riding since i was young. the transition is steep but with some throttle discipline it seems manageable enough! biggest challenge i find is low speed maneuvers with the big increase in weight especially compared to the CBR 250R i used in a motorcycle safety course. That thing felt like i hardly needed to use counter steering
My MSF instructor said "Buy the bike you actually want and forego the beginner bike." I'm glad I took his advice. I would have wasted too much money buying beginner bikes before I bought my MT-09. I'll say this, if you have plenty of experience riding smaller motorbikes or even bicycles then I'd say skip the beginner bikes. But you don't have much experience on two wheels then maybe go with a beginner bike. Knowing how to balance on two wheels at slow pace is important. Also, if this is your first time buying a bike then check insurance prices beforehand. Full coverage on big engine bikes is pricey. As far as modes, for a beginner it's best to start in Rain Mode, then Street Mode, then advance up to Sport Mode. The only time I would go back to Rain Mode is if I'm riding in the rain. It's just adds that little bit of safety.
yeah i've ridden e bikes and e scooters a lot (the ones i've ridden reach up to 30 mph). Might still stick with a 650 or a very old 600 (those ones make about 40 hp less than a modern 600) for a couple years before i get a r6 or some other squid rocket.
I think all ur points are great. Biggest thing for me would be to mention. 600's are rather tame at low rpms. Thats my opinion, as i started on a 600. The true trouble is when u get these things up into the rpms in which ur in the power band. The 1000 i now ride 5 yrs later enhances this. But i believe they are both managable.
I started on a pit bike and got it down pact in about 3-4 rides that each lasted about 15-20 minutes, didn’t have any manual transmission experience all my cars have been automatic, but it was really easy to understand how and when your supposed to shift up or down once I understood the clutch, one thing I can say and why I haven’t moved up to a sport bike yet is I don’t have the muscle memory needed to operate the bike at a high speed while also maintaining good technique and knowing how to get out of bad situations, without the proper muscle memory from practicing stopping and swerving and throttle control, etc… I’ve found that it isn’t worth taking these bikes on the street unless you do have that training, give yourself like 1-2 months before even trying to go on the road, u really want the bike to be second nature so u can focus more on your riding and not operating and controlling the bike
Also remember just because u can go fast doesn’t mean your ready for the next class of bikes, going fast on a super sport is easy, u wanna have good technique before u fly down the highway someone pulls out and u lock the rear wheel up or something of that sort
Im going to buy gsxr 600 tommorow. I will ride it on mode c and b for maybe 4-6 months to just learn. I prefer to know bike first and to learn how to lean etc. then going 150 mph on first day. Do you think it’s a good idea especially with those modes? :)
That was my first bike Yami 600 waste of money starting on a smaller bike… the 600 give you room to grow while learning … then the upgrade is the 1000rr
I've put close to 700 miles on my z400. It forced me to shift a lot. I even had a loose clutch from the dealership. I got it adjusted but have learned a ton. I wanna get a zx6r but I think I'll put a little more time into this before purchasing a second bike. However I do my own oil and inspection. Study a ton. My issue is adjusting into a corner speed to turn. Its something I'm slightly timid about. Everyone says I'm ready. However I like to ease into stuff. Its the quality of each ride. If someone cannot evaluate themselves honestly I'd say it's a no. If you gotta think about it a lot. No. We'll see what spring holds.
i have a 2024 MT07 and im extremely new to the bike scene. do i have experience on asphalt? no. do i have experience on a dirt bike on dirt? yes. they are both different. but not different. but hey if you can take it extreme chill and know that you will die if you go beyond the limits of a new rider . i am learning new things every ride i take on my bike as its crazy to think im on a 689cc can’t imagine those sport bikes. those things GOOOOO!!!!
It depends on the person and the bike. I rode a bicycle for 30 years before getting a motorcycle. Gsxr 750 was easy to learn. Wife had CBR250 and it was less beginner friendly than my Gsxr. Also, CBR250 tops slightly over 100km/h so barely keep up with cars on the highway, which is dangerous. Regardless of the bike, train, train, train. Keep learning even after 10+ years of riding.
I’m planning on starting out on a ninja 650. Had a 250 Kawasaki that felt way to weak and want smth big and hopefully work on a 1000 in the next 1-3 years
I would say 600 is the threshold for starting out if you are a responsible person. My first care was a supercharged 5.0 me and my dad built and you know if you step on the gas pedal too hard. Don’t twist the gas to hard and control how fast you go. Stay below 8000 rpm most 600s and your good to go. Once your comfortable take the rpm’s up higher and higher in each gear.
started on a vtr 1000, no issues at all 6months in. its all on the rider, if youre a coward dont get it, if youre clumsy dont get it. tired of people getting told to start on a lawnmower and learn terrible throttle control
Me personally I feel like If you understand the basics and have done some research yes but practice first at slow speed but if you’re just going in with boring then no a lower cc will be better
Just bought a pretty clean 04 zx6r, still has a lot of original parts and wasn’t stunted, it’s technically my 4th bike though🤣 started on a z400 learned everything I could on it then upgraded to a Harley low rider S traded that in for the ST version of it now I have the low rider ST for comfortable cruising and the 04 zx6r for more spirited rides Also when I went to buy my first bike as a new rider the salesman tried to get me on a gixxer 600 🤣 but I already knew I wanted the z400 to learn on and to be safer, if money was tight though and upgrading after a year wasn’t financially feasible I would’ve just got the 600 tbh
@@1pyroace1 if I didn’t know what bike I was going to get before going in he probably would’ve been successful at selling me the 600, but I did a bunch of research before going and had already settled on the z400
Watching this video because I’ve decided to get a bike, people have told me that if you are mature and have awareness of the people around you and always ride defensively is the most common thing experienced riders have told me thank you for the great and very informative video. Does anyone has tips ?
i know i will be clowned on but i have 0 experience with anything bike related so i decided to start with a 49cc currently looking to put some experience with a honda adv 150 and down the line maybe a 600? i like to do it the baby step way.
i started on a 150cc scooter, i know how to use manual but sadly we didn't havee any clutch bikes here.. I always practice slow speed for throttle control, should I get the zx6r?? 😅 been ridin for 1 and half year, I always wanna do a sports bike and i've been hitttin the gym for it..
Its a 4 month old video but just wanna know. I am planning on buying a 600cc bike and am not a complete beginner, I do ride other type of motorcycle Its just that I want to switch to a sportbike, which in my country requires me to go to a motorcycle academy type of thing where I'll be learning on a 650cc bike IIRC where I won't be getting my sportbike licences if I don't pass the riding test. With that in mind would it be fine to get a 600cc?
I started on a 06 R6. No ABS or any rider aids. I was told plenty times that’s one of the worst bikes to start on. I just learned to Respect the power that the Bike has and kept it under 10K RPM. my second bike was also an R6.
I actually never ride in the rain, but ya that could be useful. I know some bikes have wet mode for exactly what ur talking about for wet and slippery conditions. Thanks for sharing!
I don't have a bike, i'm getting tired for trying to afford one, here its hard to get one, you work for 1 Month and get only 50k-60k as payment and the bike its 2 Millions, yeah, 2 Millions one bike used in good conditions, im 23 now, and that is stressful, because you need to eat, pay bills and more, so cant have enough to afford a Bike.
Can you start on a 600, for sure. Is everyone responsible enough for the power and torque of one, hell no. I started on a 650. I still own it and still ride it. I have a 600 and a 1000. The 600 I only take to the track now. 1000 is when my buddies and I go riding. 650 is for longer trips like 2 hour rides plus. Since the 650 is much more comfortable.
Where im from u got no choice but to get a 125cc as a beginner 😀 which is great if ur 6’4. 600 and anything up is only allowed 24+ and having had your license for a while…
Alot of different 650 are slow of the start more weight I started in a Kawasaki 650L 2016 still ride it never needed to upgrade almost died like 4 times I'm the past 2 years on it but definitely the most fun and freedom I've had I'm my miserable life
This bike new is $11,999..but u can easily acquire it for much cheaper used. It’s been the exact same with no changes since 2011..the only thing that’s different year to year on these bikes is color schemes.
@@SpunkyBoyy Nice, that's not bad. One day I plan on upgrading but right now I'm just happy to be on 2 wheels. Love your content, man. Keep up the good work 🙏🏾
That’s a nice bike! I like the inline 4’s a lot! I’ve always loved the way they sound, and the Suzuki Sv650 is a great beginner bike. The 2 cylinder engines are better for learning..I typically don’t recommend the inline 4’s to brand new riders, but everyone learns at a different rate.
Respectfully, you're advising to be cautious of left turns while speeding at 50 mph in a 35 mph zone, especially knowing that road its the busiest after Sudley. It's all about mindset, brother. In my youth, I lost a few friends riding various engine sizes like 50cc, 250cc, etc., so the engine displacement doesn't really matter if you're riding recklessly. Ride Safe Brotha!!
It’s bad. Unless you say beginner but you’ve ridden dirt bikes… if you’ve ridden a manual then MAYBE. But if you’re like me and you never have driven a manual car, and it’s your first bike. no don’t do that lol
$2700?! Hahaha insurance is crazy on these things…That’s $225 bucks a month…that’s ridiculous mine is actually due again next month. I was gonna price match to see if I get it a little lower.. it’s a little over 60 a month for me
I think it just depends on the person. Some people pick it up quick while others are clumsy
Agreed if you’re not naturally coordinated, you’ll have troubles.
agreed, but you also have those beginner riders that immediately just want to try and go fast so they automatically just test their limits off rip yk
Yes it does depend on the person but that person needs skill and experience at triple digits
The problem with any sport bike does not arise at 30-40mph in reference to the rider
This is the best answer
one of the biggest things with learning on a 600rr is it's gonna take longer to get over the fear of it, and you're gonna be sketched out at slow speed stuff... especially if you ride a twitchy AF cable throttle 2005 CBR600rr where the on/off is super twitchy lol. i taught myself to ride it last season, my first bike ever but i was 46 years old, and I'm past the 'death wish' years... old enough to take it slow and really learn it, respect it and have the discipline not to weave thru traffic at 170mph. I've done some dumb shit while learning, and I'm STILL learning... you never stop learning. it's not for everyone but if you REALLY WANT IT, get it and respect it. take it SLOW and have discipline. i know in my 20's had i gotten one i wouldn't have had the discipline to learn how to actually steer at speed and all that... I'd been one of those dummies who takes a corner at top speed, goes wide and splatters thru the trees 200 yards. if you're naturally skiddish, don't get a 600 either. ❤😊
Man I’m 37 I thought I was too old to learn 😂
@Kpdadon87 nah man, fk that it's awesome! never too old bro! lol
Just bought a Ninja 500. Never been on a bike and it's been a great bike to be learning on.
Congrats! That’s a good looking bike, What color did u go with?
@SpunkyBoyy black, I thought the 400 fairings would fit on it, but unfortunately, they don't. So I'm gonna wait until someone starts making them and then order a custom set and use the OEM as a backup.
Same I just got my 2024 ninja 500 motorcycle about three months ago as my first motorcycle to learn on and it’s been great but surprisingly I’m already bored on it and looking for a 600 or 1000 motorcycle now that I’m comfortable with riding on motorcycles now.
@@Key-ey1zm lol same
got a 600 for my first bike never rode anything before besides driving cars but its been about 4 months and im loving it just stay out of power band at first and ease into it
Hey man thinking of getting a Motorbike too, I've had 4 cars previously but looking for something different. I just love the: 'get on and go, and get there quick' vibe it's got. Do you prefer your bike to a car? What's the pro's and cons you think
@@TzoHill i prefer the bike the main con is not having the room to carry stuff i got a backpack that does good but bigger things and its getting to be fall so when its under 70 it feels pretty chilly the pros are you get to have fun anywhere you go for me lol
@@TzoHillcon is when it starts raining and u don’t check your wheels there nearly bald u will slide everywhere probably come off
I've just placed a deposit on a 2024 zx6r anniversary edition. I've got 10 years riding experience. I'm glad I've had this time prior to getting a 600, as I can use and appreciate the power more from having ridden other machines.
I spend a lot of time watching different moto vloggers and moto content creators. You’re definitely my favorite. You got it. Keep it up brother. I’m that much more knowledgeable now because of the stuff you put out on this channel. Thank you from a future beginner rider🫶🏽
That means so much to me! I love teaching new riders, I’m glad to help in any way I can! Motorcycles have brought me so much joy in my life, and taught me so many different things! Thank you❤️
Deceptive speed and braking... You get up to high speeds faster than you think and you coming to a stop takes longer than you think. With that said, I love my R6 and started on it.
U know its gonna be good video when Spunky has everything written on piece of paper. Proper legend
According to the Solomon Curve, driving an average of 10mph over the speed limit actually significantly decreases your chances of crashing. In both cars, and motorcycles. That doesn't mean everyone should speed. It means that driving faster than the cars around you makes it easier for your brain to comprehend spatial awareness, and thus allows you to avoid collisions. It's the exact opposite if you're below the speed limit. That alone should be an argument for buying a 600cc bike. If someone gets a 600 and can't handle it, that's their problem. People need to stop asking other people what kind of bike is good for them. Nobody knows what is good for them but them.
A 300 can handle highway speeds just fine dawg. My r3 can do 104…. You don’t need a 600 to go 10mph above the limit…
@@UTUBE3JC That's not what was said though. The argument is being made that in order to safely pass people on the highway, you need to be able to accelerate that 10-15mph within 2-3 seconds. A lot of 400cc bikes cannot do that. It takes you ages to pass a semi truck going 65, if you're also trying to pass at the same speed.
@@Smootier to get from 65 to 85 on an r3 for example, in gear 5, it takes about 4-5 seconds….and it’s never a good idea to just increase too much speed out of the blue because the cars in front won’t think you are going to catch up that fast and may merge in front of or into you…
@@Smootier to think that it takes a 600cc bike in order to “safely pass” cars on the highway is a lie if y’all are seeing this a 300cc bike is just as fast as most cars on the road from 0-100 (usually faster)
@@UTUBE3JC I'm not sure you're really understanding. Nobody is saying you need a 600cc to pass vehicles.
A 300cc motorcycle being able to travel at 60mph is entirely irrelevant to the point. It's about having agility at speed. You factually do not have the agility riding a 300cc bike at speed, that you do a 600. They do not compare. It's not even close.
Respect the throttle and treat every driver like a bad one... simple
I’m convinced that the only people advocating for starting on a 600 are people who have already been riding for a few years.
When I started riding, my old ninja 500 felt like the fastest thing on the planet. Then when I got the 650, THAT felt like the fastest thing on the planet.
I finally got a zx6 and suddenly the 650 felt like a toy, the zx6 was terrifyingly fast.
Now, I’ve got an XSR 900 and the zx6 feels so slow in comparison even though they’re comparable in speed. The lack of torque on a 600 makes it feel really slow NOW. But if I had just started out? I would have been terrified on a zx6.
I started on a Grom than 5 months later I got a cbr600rr. Started riding two years ago.
I just bought my first bikes a few months ago and it's a 05 zx6r. Just respect the bike and I think almost anyone can start on a bigger bike.
It’s always better to work ur way up imo. The way u described is how I was taught do it as a kid. I also feel like that’s the safest approach, you don’t learn much overnight it’s more of a overtime kind of thing. Thanks for sharing!
get a 1000cc, they never fail to make you giggle.
@@nathantelford2198juts cause u did it don't make it a good idea.
I upgraded from a CBR300r to a GSXR600 and I never look back, but I'd regret getting it as my first I'm glad I trained up, it's a big difference on your body and control but I absolutely love it, great video
Started on my father in law’s Suzuki GSXR 750 1991, never had issues. As long as you control the bike and act accordingly everything will be alright.
The only time I dropped the bike I wasn’t even riding, I missed judged the bike’s weight and next thing I know I dropped whilst stationary. 😂😤
Lowkey glad I started on an ‘83 Yamaha parallel twin cruiser my grandpa and I had to kinda fix up together. Grateful Not just for the memories, but it had like 40hp max lmao
I started with a 150 cc, got hit off a couple times dropped it a few times and got the hang of it really good. Now I’ve upgraded to a 250 cc and am getting a better hang of faster speeds and turns. Now that I’m getting used to it more power is almost a necessity on the highway. Ride your ride everybody enjoy what you have💯
Time and a place pick your spots great advice I truly appreciate you I'm new to riding bikes so tips like this makes perfect sense
Bro I started on a 1200 cc Victory octane😂…. Just got a 2021 mt10 after 2 years of not riding…. Totally has to do with how mature you are and being coordinated… if you have a hard time doing anything in life.. a big boy bike is going to be a hard experience.
I started on a 2003 R6. Got my license on it also. 3 months later I bought my dream bike, 2015 R1. I also just recently bought a 2004 CBR1000. I’ve been riding for 3 years with no issues. In my honest opinion, it depends on the person, if they have any understanding of how motorcycles work and how dangerous they can be if mishandled.
I went from a 50cc straight to a 900. It's like learning to ride a bicycle, when you learn it you got it. I think it's the same as going from a low HP car to a high HP car. It's better to have available power when you want it and start slow then to keep thinking you wish you had more. Definitely agree with the rider aids though, ABS is an absolute must with higher power if you are not looking for a coffin.
got myself a 99' ZX6R with only the experience of dirt bike riding since i was young. the transition is steep but with some throttle discipline it seems manageable enough! biggest challenge i find is low speed maneuvers with the big increase in weight especially compared to the CBR 250R i used in a motorcycle safety course. That thing felt like i hardly needed to use counter steering
3:45 never thought of that, thanks
Thanks for sharing Spunky My Man 😊
No problem 👍
My MSF instructor said "Buy the bike you actually want and forego the beginner bike." I'm glad I took his advice. I would have wasted too much money buying beginner bikes before I bought my MT-09.
I'll say this, if you have plenty of experience riding smaller motorbikes or even bicycles then I'd say skip the beginner bikes. But you don't have much experience on two wheels then maybe go with a beginner bike. Knowing how to balance on two wheels at slow pace is important.
Also, if this is your first time buying a bike then check insurance prices beforehand. Full coverage on big engine bikes is pricey.
As far as modes, for a beginner it's best to start in Rain Mode, then Street Mode, then advance up to Sport Mode. The only time I would go back to Rain Mode is if I'm riding in the rain. It's just adds that little bit of safety.
yeah i've ridden e bikes and e scooters a lot (the ones i've ridden reach up to 30 mph). Might still stick with a 650 or a very old 600 (those ones make about 40 hp less than a modern 600) for a couple years before i get a r6 or some other squid rocket.
Best straight line rider advice
I think cfmoto also helped the lower cc niche with the 450ss. Looks lovely & the price is great.
I think all ur points are great. Biggest thing for me would be to mention. 600's are rather tame at low rpms. Thats my opinion, as i started on a 600. The true trouble is when u get these things up into the rpms in which ur in the power band. The 1000 i now ride 5 yrs later enhances this. But i believe they are both managable.
I started on a pit bike and got it down pact in about 3-4 rides that each lasted about 15-20 minutes, didn’t have any manual transmission experience all my cars have been automatic, but it was really easy to understand how and when your supposed to shift up or down once I understood the clutch, one thing I can say and why I haven’t moved up to a sport bike yet is I don’t have the muscle memory needed to operate the bike at a high speed while also maintaining good technique and knowing how to get out of bad situations, without the proper muscle memory from practicing stopping and swerving and throttle control, etc… I’ve found that it isn’t worth taking these bikes on the street unless you do have that training, give yourself like 1-2 months before even trying to go on the road, u really want the bike to be second nature so u can focus more on your riding and not operating and controlling the bike
Also remember just because u can go fast doesn’t mean your ready for the next class of bikes, going fast on a super sport is easy, u wanna have good technique before u fly down the highway someone pulls out and u lock the rear wheel up or something of that sort
Im going to buy gsxr 600 tommorow. I will ride it on mode c and b for maybe 4-6 months to just learn. I prefer to know bike first and to learn how to lean etc. then going 150 mph on first day. Do you think it’s a good idea especially with those modes? :)
That was my first bike Yami 600 waste of money starting on a smaller bike… the 600 give you room to grow while learning … then the upgrade is the 1000rr
People with this mindset are the same ones that end up on moto stars.
I've put close to 700 miles on my z400. It forced me to shift a lot. I even had a loose clutch from the dealership. I got it adjusted but have learned a ton. I wanna get a zx6r but I think I'll put a little more time into this before purchasing a second bike. However I do my own oil and inspection. Study a ton. My issue is adjusting into a corner speed to turn. Its something I'm slightly timid about. Everyone says I'm ready. However I like to ease into stuff. Its the quality of each ride. If someone cannot evaluate themselves honestly I'd say it's a no. If you gotta think about it a lot. No. We'll see what spring holds.
i have a 2024 MT07 and im extremely new to the bike scene.
do i have experience on asphalt?
no.
do i have experience on a dirt bike on dirt?
yes.
they are both different. but not different.
but hey if you can take it extreme chill and know that you will die if you go beyond the limits of a new rider .
i am learning new things every ride i take on my bike as its crazy to think im on a 689cc
can’t imagine those sport bikes. those things GOOOOO!!!!
I like when the camera freezes to capture the expressions of people around him 😆
It depends on the person and the bike. I rode a bicycle for 30 years before getting a motorcycle. Gsxr 750 was easy to learn. Wife had CBR250 and it was less beginner friendly than my Gsxr. Also, CBR250 tops slightly over 100km/h so barely keep up with cars on the highway, which is dangerous. Regardless of the bike, train, train, train. Keep learning even after 10+ years of riding.
I’m planning on starting out on a ninja 650. Had a 250 Kawasaki that felt way to weak and want smth big and hopefully work on a 1000 in the next 1-3 years
I would say 600 is the threshold for starting out if you are a responsible person. My first care was a supercharged 5.0 me and my dad built and you know if you step on the gas pedal too hard. Don’t twist the gas to hard and control how fast you go. Stay below 8000 rpm most 600s and your good to go. Once your comfortable take the rpm’s up higher and higher in each gear.
started on a vtr 1000, no issues at all 6months in. its all on the rider, if youre a coward dont get it, if youre clumsy dont get it. tired of people getting told to start on a lawnmower and learn terrible throttle control
Me personally I feel like If you understand the basics and have done some research yes but practice first at slow speed but if you’re just going in with boring then no a lower cc will be better
Just bought a pretty clean 04 zx6r, still has a lot of original parts and wasn’t stunted, it’s technically my 4th bike though🤣 started on a z400 learned everything I could on it then upgraded to a Harley low rider S traded that in for the ST version of it now I have the low rider ST for comfortable cruising and the 04 zx6r for more spirited rides
Also when I went to buy my first bike as a new rider the salesman tried to get me on a gixxer 600 🤣 but I already knew I wanted the z400 to learn on and to be safer, if money was tight though and upgrading after a year wasn’t financially feasible I would’ve just got the 600 tbh
Terrible salesman most I know wouldn’t start you on that if you not experience enough kinda messed up
@@1pyroace1 if I didn’t know what bike I was going to get before going in he probably would’ve been successful at selling me the 600, but I did a bunch of research before going and had already settled on the z400
@@dmvbenz7536 great job hell I still do my research between 400rr and 650 just to have the best idea on comparison
Watching this video because I’ve decided to get a bike, people have told me that if you are mature and have awareness of the people around you and always ride defensively is the most common thing experienced riders have told me thank you for the great and very informative video. Does anyone has tips ?
Living in the uk is so ass, have to start with 125 cc at 17 and wait 2 years before you can get anything more powerful
Thats crazy lol
Great content. Thank you
I just got a cbr1000rr, thing is an absolute beast, but its still not enough to make this broken heart feel something.
Nice! More videos my man. Can you cover low speed maneuvers on a sports bike?
nice sir! ride safe
What do you think if you’ve ridden dirt bikes for years, is the transition to a 600cc street motorcycle a more reasonable idea?
Happy New Year 🎇😊
i know i will be clowned on but i have 0 experience with anything bike related so i decided to start with a 49cc currently looking to put some experience with a honda adv 150 and down the line maybe a 600? i like to do it the baby step way.
let me tell you they make u wanna go fast and sound gorgeous. im more chill on a liter bike than my 600 lol
i started on a 150cc scooter, i know how to use manual but sadly we didn't havee any clutch bikes here.. I always practice slow speed for throttle control, should I get the zx6r?? 😅 been ridin for 1 and half year, I always wanna do a sports bike and i've been hitttin the gym for it..
Its a 4 month old video but just wanna know. I am planning on buying a 600cc bike and am not a complete beginner, I do ride other type of motorcycle Its just that I want to switch to a sportbike, which in my country requires me to go to a motorcycle academy type of thing where I'll be learning on a 650cc bike IIRC where I won't be getting my sportbike licences if I don't pass the riding test. With that in mind would it be fine to get a 600cc?
My first bike was a 2018 cbr600rr and it was all sweet until a driver cut me off and sent me flying over the hood of the car
Are you ready
No😅 I’ll stick with the R3 for now
New rider Kawasaki ZZR 600.
Have a good concept of what to expect.
As long as I keep my speed down I should be good to grow into it?
can you please do a video on how to check/buy a used bike please?
just seen the other vid thanks allottt
I ride a CRF450RL and have been looking to get a CB650R for commuting to work
I started on a 06 R6. No ABS or any rider aids. I was told plenty times that’s one of the worst bikes to start on. I just learned to Respect the power that the Bike has and kept it under 10K RPM. my second bike was also an R6.
Just got a cbr900rr as my first bike am I cooked?
140 a month doesn’t sound bad compared to 350 here in Sweden..😂👍🏻
Spunky, you never use the lower power mode in like the rain for example? I would think that's the best (and maybe only) use for it
I actually never ride in the rain, but ya that could be useful. I know some bikes have wet mode for exactly what ur talking about for wet and slippery conditions. Thanks for sharing!
I don't have a bike, i'm getting tired for trying to afford one, here its hard to get one, you work for 1 Month and get only 50k-60k as payment and the bike its 2 Millions, yeah, 2 Millions one bike used in good conditions, im 23 now, and that is stressful, because you need to eat, pay bills and more, so cant have enough to afford a Bike.
I weigh 130 pounds should I try and mess with a 600 or just get 400??
Zx4rr is badass
I love that kawi green
That thing with a full exhaust and a flash pulls 70 or more hp, that's no joke.
Can you start on a 600, for sure. Is everyone responsible enough for the power and torque of one, hell no.
I started on a 650. I still own it and still ride it. I have a 600 and a 1000. The 600 I only take to the track now. 1000 is when my buddies and I go riding. 650 is for longer trips like 2 hour rides plus. Since the 650 is much more comfortable.
Ok Hiccup, go train some dragons
Im 188cm ,so mabe I should get 600cc cuz its big enough and all around,but need to see
Where im from u got no choice but to get a 125cc as a beginner 😀 which is great if ur 6’4. 600 and anything up is only allowed 24+ and having had your license for a while…
I got a ninja 650 2014 w low miles its a lil snappy but i do love it idk I accidentally went 110 the other night
I pay 18$ a month for insurance
No one every talks about clip ons make the bike so much harder to control as a beginner
I’m 6’2, what is a good starter bike
Need to say lol I buyed my first bike some weeks ago a 2001 ninja zx9r 😂 btw u dont use the modes it have but either use the blinker hehe
How does 650cc 2 cylinders compare to these 600s?
Alot of different 650 are slow of the start more weight I started in a Kawasaki 650L 2016 still ride it never needed to upgrade almost died like 4 times I'm the past 2 years on it but definitely the most fun and freedom I've had I'm my miserable life
Still a death machine ask yourself are you ready
Payed 11k OTD for my r7 brand new. Never seen a 600 for under 12k MSRP
This bike new is $11,999..but u can easily acquire it for much cheaper used. It’s been the exact same with no changes since 2011..the only thing that’s different year to year on these bikes is color schemes.
@@SpunkyBoyy Nice, that's not bad. One day I plan on upgrading but right now I'm just happy to be on 2 wheels. Love your content, man. Keep up the good work 🙏🏾
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what about naked 600s? im thinking about a honda hornet 600 pc41 as my first ever bike. currently doing the moto school on a sv650
That’s a nice bike! I like the inline 4’s a lot! I’ve always loved the way they sound, and the Suzuki Sv650 is a great beginner bike. The 2 cylinder engines are better for learning..I typically don’t recommend the inline 4’s to brand new riders, but everyone learns at a different rate.
Me watching this and thinking buying my first bike at 900cc or up
Respectfully, you're advising to be cautious of left turns while speeding at 50 mph in a 35 mph zone, especially knowing that road its the busiest after Sudley. It's all about mindset, brother. In my youth, I lost a few friends riding various engine sizes like 50cc, 250cc, etc., so the engine displacement doesn't really matter if you're riding recklessly. Ride Safe Brotha!!
What do you edit in
I use Final Cut
You’re on a 750 ??
I think it's a gsxr 600. Not 100% sure though
No, this one’s a 600. The red & black Gsxr he also has is a 1000.
It’s a 2015 GSXR600
It’s bad. Unless you say beginner but you’ve ridden dirt bikes… if you’ve ridden a manual then MAYBE.
But if you’re like me and you never have driven a manual car, and it’s your first bike. no don’t do that lol
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2:33 XD
😂 Full Coverage in Nyc is $2700 fucking Crazy, thats for a 1st timer out of the MSF, new bike $13.5K for a 2023 Zx6r . Nyc are a bunch of criminals.
$2700?! Hahaha insurance is crazy on these things…That’s $225 bucks a month…that’s ridiculous mine is actually due again next month. I was gonna price match to see if I get it a little lower.. it’s a little over 60 a month for me
I was always curious smh and u won’t be riding year round and they wonder why people riding dirty
Lol. Size isn't everything people. I rode a Ninja 250r for 4 years. Been straddling this 12r ninja all year. It's to much
People need to realize the last thing they want to do, is to daily a 600cc super sport. You'll hate your life 2 months in
Babe spunky posted
600??? Yes. Why not??? Get a low priced one. If you drop it?? Learn
First thing I do to every bike is put frame sliders on it!
why you mad bro
Pros more fun cons more dead
ur a g
.... All gas bikes are a bad idea....
is this a 600 or 1000
2015 GSXR600
He sounds like an aggressive Elmo