Special thanks to VEKO who helped me a ton with this video. If you see him answering questions in the comments section, just know that he basically helped with 90% of the video! UPDATES! Getting students is not based on supports but on affinity points. But since affinity points are still used to affect supports, you can still use supports as a way to gauge things. Some of the characters are not 15-20 stats. Hilda for instance is 30 Charm/C in Axe (unavailable after chapter 12 for the church route) Sylvain is 25 Charm/C in Reason Dorothea is 25 Charm/B in Authority I will be updating the imgur images shortly to reflect these changes (when I get the chance to!). Chaz's Video! th-cam.com/video/uHhBuDWd980/w-d-xo.html& Imgur Link to image resources: imgur.com/a/n4VbimW
Petra is my best unit and her growths are amazing. She should def be grabbed from the eagles If you are weird and arent playing BE. BLACK EAGLES FOR LIFE.
tyranitararmaldo I was a tactical nightmare after the time skip, whenever I came across a former student as an enemy, I'd try and save them no matter what, cheese speed run strats were used. Chapter 17 I gave up good loot from generic mooks in order to save as many students as I possibly could. Still, seeing Claude one-round Edelgard was pretty nice.
@@TheCraftySam I tip-toed around the battlefield to get it over as quickly as possible, before any of the characters died fighting each other, let alone my forces. Lost 3 though, still stings. At least in my new-game-plus I will be able to save them.
Manuela: Dimitri, where are your classmates? Dimitri: P-professor! It wasn't my fault! They all joined the Black Eagles house because the professor is cooler!"
Hanneman: Claude, where are your classmates? Claude: I couldn’t help it, the Black Eagles got that much cooler teacher. Hanneman: Hmm, seeing as how Manuela joined that class, I think I’ll do the same. Claude: Oh come on! That’s not fair!
me trying to recruit on my first playtrough: ah man, leonine did't accept my tea invitation, oh well I'm going to wife edelgard anyways. me trying to recruit on NG+: JUST ACCEPT THE TEA WOMAN!!!!! I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOUR LIFE HERE!!!!!!!!!
It really does become a race to save lives once you know what's coming...I actually recruited Marianne and Hilda before anyone else because I wanted to prevent suicide/having to kill my wife
Leonie has been MVP for 2/3 of the runs. Just started NG++ on the edelgard route and recruited her right away. She will forever be my go to Wyvern Riding Beast! Let's go Imperialism I'm gonna murder all the characters I hate. Looking at you Cyril and Hanneman.
@@BALDFURY69 umm none of the teachers go against you at least not in the edelgard route, cyril you can get but he only appears in the final battle and it's next to reah, it's a hussle so I just ignore him and focus on reah.
@@omarreyes7626 Oh well that's slightly disappointing. But you're saying I can absolutely kill Cyril even if it means going extremley out my way and risking death? I'll take my chances that guy annoyed the crap out of me hahahah
Seems like Dorothea, Felix, and Ignatz require B because they specifically require the stats that Byleth is already proficient with and he'll be way more advanced, but they don't want you to get those three way earlier than the others.
In addition to early Physic, Linhardt is also one of only 3 Characters to get Warp. Great pick up for the Lions, who don't have a Warp user by default.
Mercedes is a better all-around healer though. She lacks Warp but has an easier time reaching Holy Knight for that super mobile healing and her passive makes her a goddam beast of a meat shield.
@@Ashtarte3D tbh, holy Knight isn't really a requirement for healers with physic. The thing about holy Knight is that you are more of an offensive magic user since u lose +10 on healing in place of damage and canto. Characters with physic don't really need to keep up with ur units cuz physic and fortify range are so big :D
Worth mentioning if I'm correct - the other two are Manuela and Lysithea. The latter of the two you almost always want on offense. Manuela can't be picked up until a bit latter into part 1.
@@Ashtarte3D just make her as a Gremory cause that 10 physic is more than enough for a whole map and just give her Thyrsus if you want her to go offensive as it gives you +2 to offensive magic range...
And don't forget, kids. You can't use the B support strategy on Ferdinand or Caspar, their B supports with Byleth take place after the timeskip. Source: Me, I've recruited Ferdinand every run because I love him and I learned this the hard way and had to speed run H. Armor on my first go
@@finalbossd Provided you want the easy unlock, from my recollection it occurs after you've earned the B support and seen the conversation, which will always be blocked off until the 5 years have passed. Fortunately he doesn't have the high standard recruitment check so D+-C is way easier to get than C+-B
@David Saade Romano You have to legitimately obtain Caspar and Ferdinand through ranking in Gauntlets and Heavy Armor respectively. Around D+ in each with both at C support should work
@@chaikagaz Dedue and Hubert, alongside house leaders, are impossible to recruit. Mainly as it just isn't in character- Dedue and Hubert are the personal vassals of Dimitri and Edelgard respectively, and cannot simply leave their side.
From what I 've heard, you might need to raise the support Level between Byleth and Hilda, so that it reaches C before the end of chapter four. Otherwise, there won' t be any options (like giving her presents or trying to recruit her) available after talking to her. I don' t know the exact requirements, but a friend of mine chose Black Eagles and managed to recruit Hilda after reaching Support Level C in time and fulfilling the other requirements. So it is possible to recruit Hilda after choosing Black Eagles.
No idea what you mean, Dorothea and Felix literally threw themselves at me after I had C support with them - my authority and sword stat were always the highest, guess that's the reason.
@@TheSimmr001 I know, I was just surprised that they were described as "hard to get" in the video, when I had much bigger problems with other characters.
Yeah same (I know this is late but I just started playing the game recently 🙃) dorothea I got in my blue lions run and I've already gotten felix in golden deer. Boy has a boner for swords so that plus C support and hes easy to recruit
@Sakisasvictorianmask If I had to guess, the only reason they have a higher requirement is because Byleth more than likely already going to have a good sword and authority stat
They need to allow you to recruit all the students including the house leaders/retainers and staff and Rhea. That way players can create their own dream teams in the game.
Nice video! This was the first FE game that made me actually plan out classes on paper because there's so much to remember with what proficiencies you need, specifically for the master classes... not complaining though. It makes me feel like a proper professor. I really like the direction of this game.
I want to disagree... But my first choice for the event was dedue, had a laugh, then took a previous save file and had Annette be the dancer. The temptation to do what you did was there.
Honestly you really have to work to try and recruit everyone on your first playthrough, it gets SO much easier on subsequent playthroughs on new game plus. Like damn, it is ridiculous how much easier it is after your first playthrough.
Fun thing is with new game+ is that you can get rewards through renowm points and I did use them to immediately get A+ Professor rank and shared so many meals with everyone that well yeah I almost have everyone in my class now
For some reason Mercedes isn't joining black eagles currently on NG+ and I have a B support from my BL route I didn't get her to a A support I'm hoping she joins before 12
I'm surprised you didn't say get Petra. She is amazing. I have both perta and felix and felix is currently a level 43 mortal savant and Petra is a level 37 assassin and she is way harder to hit and crits way more frequently than felix. Petra kills almost any unit in 1 battle because she basically crits every fight. Definitely pick up petra.
Agreed. Petra is dope. Wanted to make her a bow knight, but I had no other potential thieves recruited, so that dream died pretty quickly. :( Next playthrough for sure, though.
Couldn't agree more, Petra is amazing, I'm running her as an assassin. She's possibly your best option as a finisher since she usually crits low health enemies. And Felix was my first recruit, he's a powerhouse
@@alexfns2427 her ability to crit low health enemies is handy to have but gets obsolete pretty fast as there are a lot of 1 hitting characters in this game(including her) even on hard...
On a Silver Snow playthrough and Dorothea is one of my best units. She knows METEOR. The unit that I found the most useful recruiting was Mercedes. She’s an excellent healer.
Students i did not get : Bernadetta, Lorentz, Ferdinand and Hilda I had the problem of being unable to reclass Byleth into an advanced class till he reached lvl 30 though. Maybe i should have played normal mode to be able to grind but i will see how NG+ goes when i finish BL.
An interesting event happened on my BE playthrough, idk if can happen with other characters but when I beat Lysithea in part 2, I got the chance to spare and recruit her.
@@OK-sq2ou give you back your renow that you have spent on last file and with extra renow. Then you can spent it to quickly unlock stuff from your last file like your prof level, your support level with other, skill you have learnt. Also you keep your batallion and bonus training status. Unlock support up to B allow you recruit students much faster or A to immediately recruit them.
I started my first playthrough on the alternate path and recruited every character i can. Couldnt get catherine, hilda, seteth, flayn or cycil or dudei. Im gonna try the church route new game plus but not having edelgard makes me sad
I was already planning on doing this in my Golden Deer run, neat! Also, in NG+, you can basically buy weapon ranks, so don’t be afraid to branch out different weapon ranks and just buy them in the next playthrough so you can focus on new weapons afterward.
Male Byleth: wanna join Sylvain: sorry man but you need charm and reason at C Female Byleth: wanna join Sylvain: YOUR MEER EXISTENCE IS ENOUGH FOR ME TO JOIN YOU
Guys, I'm playing the Blue Lion story right now & the hands down the BEST decision i have made was to recruit Petra! Make her either an Assassin or Sword Master & she will have 20+ base crit (depending on stats of course), she's super fast, dodges almost everything, and her ability is to increase crit rate if enemy is < 50% HP so if you can get a boss weak with your tank, she WILL finish them no problem. Equip her with Wao Dao or Killing Edge and you'll typically see crit rates around 70%. She also has decent Def & average Res. Petra is a beast.
From what I read, recruiting Hilda when you don't choose Golden Deer isn't based on story choices but your house as you cannot recruit Hilda if you go Black Eagles but you can recruit her if you do Blue Lions
Did you go Church route? From what I understand, she’s recruitable only in THAT small window of time, between siding with the Church and the time skip itself.
@Sylvain Jose Gautier Well Raphael is definitely a monster with Gauntlets, at least for me he was. But I never really used Ignatz, however, the point still stands that Golden Deer are the best overall. Not to mention how broken Claudes final class is.
Hilda is only available in the Church Black Eagles route from what I've experienced. She never gave the option to give gifts or lost items for me until after the Eagles route split. I really had to grind out supports to get her.
I definitely recommend Petra over Linhardt for Black Eagles, unless you need another healer in Linhardt. Petra as an assassin is basically a one woman army.
Thanks for the video. I'm having a hard time deciding the house i'm gonna pick when i play this game but this video really helped me because not a lot of sources are very specific in what you need to recruit the charcters.
People probably already know this, but apparently you can recruit Catherine for free (I think it’s only in BL/GD route as I wasn’t able to in BE) Edit: Recruited Hilda in BL route. It works (it only started working after Gatier Inheritance tho)
Just FYI, easiest way to do this is to use female byleth and choose golden deer. Sylvain joins just cuz you chose female byleth and you need no supports or skills or at least extremely low (not 100% sure) Also golden deer is the only house that doesn't have a character you can't recruit other than claude. Everyone but him can be recruited. There is no retainer. So if you choose female byleth and golden deer you can't recruit edelgard, dimitri, hubert, and dedue. And let's just assume you got sylvain already. That's only 11 students you actually have to try for instead of black Eagles with 12 and blue lions with 13.
Edgellatin XIV what do you mean? Each house has 8 characters. If you pick black eagles you get all 8 of them and Sylvain for free, but you still have to recruit the remaining 5 students in blue lions and 7 students from golden deer. That's one extra student for you to recruit as opposed to choosing golden deer, getting all 8 students, Sylvain for free, the remaining 5 from blue lions but only 6 from black Eagles.
Uh....yes. from there it's just a matter of recruiting as best you can which isn't too hard tbh. What is this "having the most characters" complaint. I'm not really getting it. You start out with 8 if you choose blue lions and 9 if you choose the other two due to free sylvain. Am I wrong? It's not like the black Eagles have more total students. Every house has 8. From there you go and recruit the others. Blue lions you will have the most to make up for with 13. Black Eagles have 12 and golden deer have 11. Therefore with everything else being equal, the golden deer female byleth route has you needing to do the least work.
IMO best to do a "gotta recruit them all" run after you play through all the paths normally. I screwed myself over with one of the paths by doing a recruit them all run.
5:10 Dude! Bernie, Ferdinand, and Petra are all monsters on the field! Esp. Petra early game and Bernie and Ferdinand late game. Pair them up with Dorothea's Meteor spell and Ingrid's flying skills, and you have the dream team!
The easiest way to think about recruitment requirements is by the following (not from how it's described in the video). ALL students aside from a select few can be recruited using the following method: B rank support, D rank in the skill they want The exceptions to this are if the student wants Sword, Brawling, OR Authority. Since Byleth starts with these at a higher level than E, they require higher levels in the skill along with B support for the recruitment. Sword -> C+ rank Brawling -> D+ rank Authority -> C rank 2 students to make note of are Caspar and Ferdinand. Both can't be B supported prior to the timeskip, so they need an additional level in their skill for recruitment. And that's all there is to it. If you don't want to grind to B rank support, add an additional level to the skill. Ex: D+ instead of D.
JaeAIK No problem! Lots of confusion on the recruitment requirements, but based on what I’ve seen this should be accurate. Recruited all students I could on my BL file.
I waited until the final day of school before something happens and recruited everybody except the unrecruitable people of course Edit: so I missed alot of supports...
just do a B level Support for the character you want to recruit and his or her requirements falls down to Skill D with 10+ to the particular stats, it's easy to farm Skill lvls in normal cause of the free maps but in hard you have to be mindful of how to spend you time in explorations but it's really doable to recruit all recruitable characters before the time skip happens, it's even made more easy in newgame+ as you can buy skill lvls and Support lvls respectively...
I just explore first week of the month and grind out battles for the rest of the month, otherwise you will severely be underleveled for the next battle
@@chaikagaz if you're doing hard then it's understandable BUT not recommended, if you're doing normal then 1 week per month for battles is enough unless you're doing paralogue and quest battles, you're missing out on A LOT if you only do exploration once a month, first off you cannot lvl your professor lvl properly, most of your activities in exploration gives you prof exp, when you do battles you don't get prof exp, the higher the prof lvl the more you can do in this game. next is support lvl and recruitment, you cannot build enough support lvl outside your house so you have less chance to recruit, specially since you have low prof lvl having less activity points, next is dunning, most people don;t know the importance of dinning, it gives you prof exp, it gives you bond and in maxes the motivation of the students, it's import if you want to focus on a student you want on instructing and you can focus on the characters you want to bond with, lastly getting instructions from other prof to lvl skills outside of battles, mount and armor skill in particular cannot be gained in battles if you don't have the proper class for it, to get that class you need to lvl the minimum skill required, not to mention some characters require those said skills to recruit... this game is easy even on hard if you compare it to other FE games if you're having a difficult fight on missions the best thing you need to do is over lvl Byleth he/she will dominate any maps alone unless there is a turn limit
the only thing to add is that if you allied with the black eagles there are some unit that just will not join up with you like Hilda and a few member of the church.
I’ve been recruiting students by whose prologues come first to give more time to finish them and to not to miss out on prologues that occur pre-timeskip. They also join at the same level as the recommended level for the month’s mission/prologues and it makes it easier so you don’t have to train them up. * Make sure to at least C support Rhea before the Timeskip to unlock her post-Timeskip prologue. Her B support also has to be unlocked before Chapter 10, S support before Chapter 12 if you want to romance her/ have the conversations. Also in my GD playthrough, seeing Caspar and Ferdinand’s B supports are locked after the Timeskip. If they are not in your house, B support with D+ required skill level or C support with a lower skill level (not sure if D) were required. I was able to recruit everyone else automatically at B supports with some more gifts (if my required skill was E+ or lower) or automatically/randomly during the calendar progression. I highly recommend recruiting via meals/gifts/chior vs faculty teaching/tea time bc you build prof level faster I was able to unlock all possible GD prologues and recruit everyone via this method. There are also lots of awesome guides/discussions on Serene’s Forest and Samurai Gamers for more info including tea time answers!
wait till you try to use Edelgard, she can tank both physical and magical and 1 hit all enemies at the same time, you can send her alone and destroy the whole map without any help specially with her crest which is the same sa Byleth that occasionally life steal the damage that she makes which activates almost all the time, she is arguably the best melee character in the game other than Byleth that can 1 hit from early to end game maps, sadly she is locked in BE and I'm pretty sure she is locked with Hubert cause you can't even buy their support level in the renown shop in newgame+, I'm playing BL now as my 2nd playthought and I gotta say Sylvain and Felix are way better than Dimitri in melee department, heck Ingrid outshines him in that regards as well
It's not fair that only ladies get a freebie(Sylvain). It would be cool if Bernadetta was the freebie for the dudes. There are only 2 people that she is comfortable with, Alois and Byleth. It would make sense from a story standpoint if she transferred to Byleth's class to feel safer.
I got Hilda on BL around month 9-10. I got to B rank with her, (A rank timelocked) and asked her to join my team twice. She denied both times, then requested to join randomly during the week. Best unit I have right now, by far. Also had no axe skill, and only increased charm twice.
Maybe minor potential spoilers Im not sure if anyone else got this but on Edelgard's path post timeskip I was able to recruit Lysithea during battle where after defeating her it gave me the option of recruiting or killing her
Spoilers. Every house can recruit a student for free post-timeskip after beating them in battle with Byleth. You cannot unlock any supports with Byleth if you do so, however. The Black Eagles get Lysithea, Blue Lions get Lorenz, and Golden Deer get Ashe.
i have just recruited every single black eagle unit on my golden deer playthrough without even trying to do so ... i just recruited the 3 characters that i wanted and it just so happened that i also got the stats needed for the other students
I guess you also need a higher stat then E if you want to recruit a character with a B support. I had Raphael on B, but he wouldn't join my class, since Byleth had E in armour. Leonie joined as soon as I hit E+ or D
Guys, don't bother with the skill requirements. INSTEAD - 1. Look up supports for each of your house members. 2. Have them eat dinner with you and another character from a different house they have supports with. 3. You build support with your house member AND the outsider. 4. Once support reaches B, they will ask to join you regardless of your skill level. Notes: 1. Your house members might only have supports with 1-3 outside house members, its a good idea to designate a lunch partner that is unique to them that they will always lunch with until your rank is B. 2. Supports between your own house members will be sufficiently built via battle. 3. Invite a member from a different house and assign them as your adjuntant, this will build support between you and this character without sapping experience from the rest of your team.
Or...do both? Idk why you have to discredit everything I say here when I say in the video you realistically want to mix and match both, and even link a video that shows you how to do the other things so I don't have to go over it lmfao.
@@jaeaik You seriously dilute and weaken your main character by spreading out your skills AND waste precious points on useless faculty training which could be used for teatime and dinners. You literally cannot do both if you want to recruit everyone.
@@Mephil I would be inclined to agree if exploring the monastery was the entire game. But it's a waste of time to spend drinking tea with someone like Felix if your already in a class that shows profiency in swords. I can see how this could be useful for someone like Ferdinand, Raphael, Ingrid, all profiencies that most people won't likely spec into, but if your already in said class, then why would I waste my time drinking tea with them, and slinging gifts at them. And it's not like I don't mention it, i mention by name someone whose made a video guide on how you can maximize opportunities with other students not in your house in a great way, so I just simply don't go over it. So yes. You do want to do both.
this really helps and is actually a way faster method. i already recruited sylvain, ashe, ferdinand and dorothea using this method (and declined linhard!) and im only a few months in while my boyfriend only managed recruiting sylvain bc he focused on raising his stats for the characters.
A couple of other considerations: 1.) Leonie is one of the best potential cavaliers in the game as far as I can see. Her growth spread and base stats are great, she has no skill weaknesses, and her personal skill is very good. One of the best potential bow knights if your current roster is lacking in mounted units. 2.) Annette is a highly underrated student because she learns RECOVER (a surprisingly rare white magic) fairly early. If you look at the spell lists for the characters, Annette and Lorenz are the only students that both a) get Recover and b) have a decent Magic base/growth to utilize it fully. (Byleth can learn recover as well). Annette's black and white magic spell lists also contain useful spells like Abraxis (white) and Excalibur (black). Recover is the big one, because late-game characters have large HP pools and enemy attacks start dealing lots of damage. If you think you're going to be short on healing or need more magic nukage, consider recruiting Annette. The only downside is that she doesn't get Physic. (Mercedes seems to be a popular choice because of both Physic and Fortify, but she doesn't get Excalibur or Recover. Getting both of them wouldn't be a bad idea.) Anyway, that's my two cents.
I mean... Petra, Hilda, and Leonie all make great early fliers too. I'd argue Ingrid plays a bit too strongly into the Pegasus Knight archetype for her own good, since it's very easy for her Str and/or HP and Def to fall behind or not not start growing soon enough to be very viable until you're reaching the Advanced class level range anyway, so the early flight capability ends up a bit wasted. Actually, on that note, Hilda can quite easily be trained to go straight from Pegasus Knight to Wyvern Rider, and then have her pick of which Master class to go with (or do both if you have the time), if one so desires to heave full time flying unit. Other girls might struggle raising both the Spear and Axe skills needed, but you can probably manage with any other of three as well, Hilda is just the easiest since she has the best weapon strengths and Str to work with early on to make those early levels more productive in battle. I imigine she might be the only viable early game flying unit candidate, if any, once the harder difficulties come out. Although, Petra's or Leonie's personal skills can both come quite in handy for getting kills. Bottom line, I spent way too long rambling about how hard actually raising/using an early game Pegasus Knight usually is.
I love classic Shadow Dragon and Sacred Stone, but this one makes me almost cry of joy. Such a great and unsual game, I love social elements, that what makes it second favorite rpg series for me after Persona. But I think it is quite easier than its precedors. Thank you kindly for you guide, although I usually did everything by my own it is nice to understand why Sylvain joined me xD
did u start a ng+? that's the only way I can see how u could had recruited hilda into black eagles. I have her on B rank im black eagles and she still hasn't joined me
I have S with her and will update if I get her on the BE-empire route. (I used NG+ after B rank) I can confirm there is NO WAY to get Hilda on the Empire-route. Even when you buy S rank with NG+ it isnt possible.
If you're gonna recruit lysithea, It's a safe bet that you'll want to recruit lorenz too. if only for access to his paralogue chapter which rewards you with thyrsus, an equippable wand that works with the crest of gloucester, and gives lysithea an extra 3 range on attacks, which really helps with her low move and defenses, on top of making her that much more of a threat.
I think I had a D in brawling when I recruited Caspar. This and Chaz's videos definitely helped. Next run (going Lions again, fite me) I'm taking Lysethia as well.
I'm sad because because I didnt know you could talk to them in battle and have them live and join you.... i killed them by using other units to approach and not the professor. I'm starting over now... because I didnt make multiple saves stupidly.
Josiah Collins WHAT. I had good support with Lysithea and I was able to spare her on the Black Eagles route, yet I wasnt able to save Ingrid, even though i had a good support with her
Hilda is recruitable in blue lions and church route but only once u select church route so there’s like 1 month where u can recruit her in church route cus u pick church route right before the timeskip
if you play on normal you can recruit them all(as in all the recruitables) First play through I'm in the month 2/22 and got all but 5.(Leonie, Caspar, Ferninand, Raph and Gilbert) mainly because I didn't focus on recruiting, with a more focused run it could be do-able on the normal difficulty when you can use extra battles to boost some stats. Key is increasing support levels to lower requirements for recruiting.
Wow, that was very clear, at the moment I was watching the video, I'm only missing 1 student I really want to recruit, I'm having a lot of fun with the monastery and stuff.
If you are in Edelgard's route heres two tips, don't make flayn your dancer in the dancing event. And the other is lisithea apparently joins you automatically some time later in the story, i didn't have time to recruit her but she joined me herself, no proficiency requirement and my support for her wasn't even C. I heard it was similar for hilda joining you in church and blue lions route.
I'm Black Eagle house, and personally I made Ferdinand a Paladin, as if built right he will then have a high movement rate and high evasion. Making him very useful for the front lines.
My strategy is to get who I want first so I can spend my time leveling them up in the way that I want first; after, I wait until the last moment and run around recruiting everyone else. This way, I don't get overwhelmed with prospects and start neglecting the characters I will be using as well as letting The Battle of the Eagle and Lion really hit home.
Just a side note, it isn’t possible to get Hilda on Black Eagles route if you commit to helping Edelgard as opposed to the Church. When she [Edelgard] asks you to help her in Ch. 11 on that route, from then on it is impossible to recruit Hilda, so just fair warning.
While you certainly CAN recruit as many as you want, it may not work in your favor to do so. There are rarely any maps that even allow you to deploy more than 10 characters, and that is even taking Byleth and the house lord into account.
i recommend recruiting marianne, because she's suicidally depressed and she's the only character in the game that doesn't show up after the timeskip in any of the routes unless you have her in your class also she heals good i guess
@@tori_amelie4618 considering how starved i was for healers early on in my black eagles playthrough, and the fact that the game steals flayn from you if you side with edelgard, i'd say recruiting a second healer is necessary there unless you wanna power level dorothea's faith
I'm on my second Black Eagles playthrough and I recruited everyone except Annette. Idc if she joins or not. Felix, Bernadetta, Lysithia, Leonie, Sylvain, Petra, Caspar, Catherine and Hilda are heavy hitters. Too op for this game
Dorothea was the only student I recruited on my first playthrough (Blue Lions) because I didn't understand how recruiting worked and she was the only one who asked to join my house
I got Felix to recruitment right after Sylvain joined 🤔 I’d never done any support crap with either of them but my Blythe was almost maxed for sword specs
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Special thanks to VEKO who helped me a ton with this video. If you see him answering questions in the comments section, just know that he basically helped with 90% of the video!
UPDATES!
Getting students is not based on supports but on affinity points. But since affinity points are still used to affect supports, you can still use supports as a way to gauge things.
Some of the characters are not 15-20 stats.
Hilda for instance is 30 Charm/C in Axe (unavailable after chapter 12 for the church route)
Sylvain is 25 Charm/C in Reason
Dorothea is 25 Charm/B in Authority
I will be updating the imgur images shortly to reflect these changes (when I get the chance to!).
Chaz's Video!
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That is...if he's helping....
Once you get support level b you need very little in the skills. So don't waste faculty training on skills you won't use.
Hilda will not join black eagles no matter what. You cant even give her lost items and gifts. Blue lions have a small window to get her.
Petra is my best unit and her growths are amazing. She should def be grabbed from the eagles If you are weird and arent playing BE. BLACK EAGLES FOR LIFE.
@@jaeaik btw the video include for the teachers and church of serios members (I want be able recruit them as well?
Slyvain requires you having two X chromosomes
That’s literally the exact same thing lol
I don’t know if that’s a joke, don’t r/wooooosh me pls
Lord Tullus 9 r/woooosh
@Condor7215 impressive
Technically, you need 24.
@@warriorshater69420 it was.
Recruit everyone to your class so you can protect them all.
^This. The time skip broke me.
tyranitararmaldo I was a tactical nightmare after the time skip, whenever I came across a former student as an enemy, I'd try and save them no matter what, cheese speed run strats were used. Chapter 17 I gave up good loot from generic mooks in order to save as many students as I possibly could. Still, seeing Claude one-round Edelgard was pretty nice.
@@TheCraftySam I tip-toed around the battlefield to get it over as quickly as possible, before any of the characters died fighting each other, let alone my forces.
Lost 3 though, still stings.
At least in my new-game-plus I will be able to save them.
I gave them a swift death. I hope it was painless.
I’m starting my first New Game+, going with Blue Lions now, and I can’t leave any of my Golden Fawns at risk.
Manuela: Dimitri, where are your classmates?
Dimitri: P-professor! It wasn't my fault! They all joined the Black Eagles house because the professor is cooler!"
Manuela: My, my. Quite the charmer. You’re in charge of class now.
Dimitri: Wait! Professor! Where are you going?
Manuela: Oh... so you weren't recruited as well?
Dimitri: PROFESSORRRR!!! I'M GOING FOR YOUR HEAD!!!!
Hanneman: Claude, where are your classmates?
Claude: I couldn’t help it, the Black Eagles got that much cooler teacher.
Hanneman: Hmm, seeing as how Manuela joined that class, I think I’ll do the same.
Claude: Oh come on! That’s not fair!
More like, Claude and Dimitri go to their classroom and not even their teachers are there.
Don't worry Dedue will never leave your side
Me talking to Lysithea (after recruiting everyone else): I am once again asking for you to join my class
Just one of the many bonuses of the Golden Deer house. Along with having best boy Raphael of course
me trying to recruit on my first playtrough: ah man, leonine did't accept my tea invitation, oh well I'm going to wife edelgard anyways.
me trying to recruit on NG+: JUST ACCEPT THE TEA WOMAN!!!!! I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOUR LIFE HERE!!!!!!!!!
This was me the whole time XD
It really does become a race to save lives once you know what's coming...I actually recruited Marianne and Hilda before anyone else because I wanted to prevent suicide/having to kill my wife
Leonie has been MVP for 2/3 of the runs. Just started NG++ on the edelgard route and recruited her right away. She will forever be my go to Wyvern Riding Beast! Let's go Imperialism I'm gonna murder all the characters I hate. Looking at you Cyril and Hanneman.
@@BALDFURY69 umm none of the teachers go against you at least not in the edelgard route, cyril you can get but he only appears in the final battle and it's next to reah, it's a hussle so I just ignore him and focus on reah.
@@omarreyes7626 Oh well that's slightly disappointing. But you're saying I can absolutely kill Cyril even if it means going extremley out my way and risking death? I'll take my chances that guy annoyed the crap out of me hahahah
I recruit Ashe every time just so I can protect him, precious boi
Advice don't do Ashe when doing a golden deer run
Honestly
I do the same thing with Mercedes and Marianne.
@@zimonzieclown1633 hm what?
Starguy 1o1 Why don’t Go Ashe when golden deer?
Seems like Dorothea, Felix, and Ignatz require B because they specifically require the stats that Byleth is already proficient with and he'll be way more advanced, but they don't want you to get those three way earlier than the others.
Well I got a maxed out Authority and Dorothea still isn't giving me the time of day! X-D
FINALLY NUMBERS AND LETTERS I CAN UNDERSTAND
Yeah man the alphabet is confusing.
In addition to early Physic, Linhardt is also one of only 3 Characters to get Warp. Great pick up for the Lions, who don't have a Warp user by default.
Great point. Pinned you go
Mercedes is a better all-around healer though. She lacks Warp but has an easier time reaching Holy Knight for that super mobile healing and her passive makes her a goddam beast of a meat shield.
@@Ashtarte3D tbh, holy Knight isn't really a requirement for healers with physic. The thing about holy Knight is that you are more of an offensive magic user since u lose +10 on healing in place of damage and canto. Characters with physic don't really need to keep up with ur units cuz physic and fortify range are so big :D
Worth mentioning if I'm correct - the other two are Manuela and Lysithea. The latter of the two you almost always want on offense. Manuela can't be picked up until a bit latter into part 1.
@@Ashtarte3D just make her as a Gremory cause that 10 physic is more than enough for a whole map and just give her Thyrsus if you want her to go offensive as it gives you +2 to offensive magic range...
And don't forget, kids. You can't use the B support strategy on Ferdinand or Caspar, their B supports with Byleth take place after the timeskip.
Source: Me, I've recruited Ferdinand every run because I love him and I learned this the hard way and had to speed run H. Armor on my first go
Charlotte Masters Couldn’t you use a new game+ to buy a b support with him?
@@finalbossd Provided you want the easy unlock, from my recollection it occurs after you've earned the B support and seen the conversation, which will always be blocked off until the 5 years have passed. Fortunately he doesn't have the high standard recruitment check so D+-C is way easier to get than C+-B
not unless you're on NG+ then it works
@David Saade Romano You have to legitimately obtain Caspar and Ferdinand through ranking in Gauntlets and Heavy Armor respectively. Around D+ in each with both at C support should work
@David Saade Romano Gilbert is route specific, he only joins post ts on the Blue Lions
Hilda can't join in Edelgard's path, she is able to join you in chapter 12 in the church route and dimitri route.
O thnx i was wondering why hilda and dudei wouldnt join me.
Hilda can actually be recruited as normal in the Blue Lions route, I'm only a couple months in but already have recruited her.
@@chaikagaz Dedue and Hubert, alongside house leaders, are impossible to recruit. Mainly as it just isn't in character- Dedue and Hubert are the personal vassals of Dimitri and Edelgard respectively, and cannot simply leave their side.
I recruited her right before the time skip so I assume there's a only a window where you can recruit her
From what I 've heard, you might need to raise the support Level between Byleth and Hilda, so that it reaches C before the end of chapter four. Otherwise, there
won' t be any options (like giving her presents or trying to recruit her) available after talking to her. I don' t know the exact requirements, but a friend of mine chose Black Eagles and managed to recruit Hilda after reaching Support Level C in time and fulfilling the other requirements. So it is possible to recruit Hilda after choosing Black Eagles.
Recruit ALL STUDENTS
3 minutes in: "you can't recruit all students"
This is how the media works. That isn't what he said
No idea what you mean, Dorothea and Felix literally threw themselves at me after I had C support with them - my authority and sword stat were always the highest, guess that's the reason.
supports lower the requirements
@@TheSimmr001 I know, I was just surprised that they were described as "hard to get" in the video, when I had much bigger problems with other characters.
Yeah same (I know this is late but I just started playing the game recently 🙃) dorothea I got in my blue lions run and I've already gotten felix in golden deer. Boy has a boner for swords so that plus C support and hes easy to recruit
@Sakisasvictorianmask
If I had to guess, the only reason they have a higher requirement is because Byleth more than likely already going to have a good sword and authority stat
Really really REALLY appreciate the lack of spoilers here. It's so easy to discover spoilers on accident online.
easiest one to recruit right off the bat if you are a girl is Sylvain
I didn't realize that you could recruit more than one unit from each house, so i picked Ashe and Bernadetta, cause they both needed protection.
The idea is to recruit all of them when needed because you're gonna need more units in battle when on the field.
@Wutert you're right, I did golden deer at first, and I recruited the two , and was suprised to battle him later and then recruited him.
@Wutert yeah, and then, suddenly, we against him, yet he remembers us. I like this way of recruiting some characters.
Just remember that you can't grind on hard mode
Yup that's why I specifically mentioned normal mode
@@jaeaik why?
@@MarkTheLeo your limited to the number of battles you can do per weekend.
@@MarkTheLeo a bit more precise: in hard mode, *all* auxiliary missions expend battle points.
How do you grind if you can only do 2 battles per week?🤔
They need to allow you to recruit all the students including the house leaders/retainers and staff and Rhea. That way players can create their own dream teams in the game.
If anything, in NG+
Nice video! This was the first FE game that made me actually plan out classes on paper because there's so much to remember with what proficiencies you need, specifically for the master classes... not complaining though. It makes me feel like a proper professor. I really like the direction of this game.
Woah i definitely wasnt aware you could recruit Hilda, definitely looking forward to that on the next playthrough
Only if you're male! Female can't recrute Hilda
@@stylishgaby is that so? Well i was planning in going male anyway for the third run but thanks for the info!
Cams I couldn’t do it till the last month and she didn’t join after all :(
You can't require her if you do BE-Empire route. You can in BE-Church but only after you made the decision.
I recruited Hilda as female Byleth, on my BL house
4:34 I think we all know that FELIX is the best dancer in FE Three Houses
I want to disagree... But my first choice for the event was dedue, had a laugh, then took a previous save file and had Annette be the dancer. The temptation to do what you did was there.
Use felix has mortal savant gives more strength
@@hoshingacha a few characters can have a master for it but I recommend to get a really good sword class for him.
No
Hubert is best dancer
I made Sylvain my dancer when I was in GD lmao
Honestly you really have to work to try and recruit everyone on your first playthrough, it gets SO much easier on subsequent playthroughs on new game plus.
Like damn, it is ridiculous how much easier it is after your first playthrough.
Fun thing is with new game+ is that you can get rewards through renowm points and I did use them to immediately get A+ Professor rank and shared so many meals with everyone that well yeah I almost have everyone in my class now
New game+ is one hell of a drug
That actually pretty smart
Anime Lover yea I got everyone so far expect caspar and Raphael
Anime Lover I also recruited Petra but she died and I didn’t even n o t i c e
For some reason Mercedes isn't joining black eagles currently on NG+ and I have a B support from my BL route I didn't get her to a A support I'm hoping she joins before 12
I'm surprised you didn't say get Petra. She is amazing. I have both perta and felix and felix is currently a level 43 mortal savant and Petra is a level 37 assassin and she is way harder to hit and crits way more frequently than felix. Petra kills almost any unit in 1 battle because she basically crits every fight. Definitely pick up petra.
I have her has Dancer...
Big regrets.
I could make her assassin, but she at this point it's too late, I'm already at the last mission :(
try making her into a sword wielding falcon knight... you'll see wonders...
Agreed. Petra is dope. Wanted to make her a bow knight, but I had no other potential thieves recruited, so that dream died pretty quickly. :( Next playthrough for sure, though.
Couldn't agree more, Petra is amazing, I'm running her as an assassin. She's possibly your best option as a finisher since she usually crits low health enemies. And Felix was my first recruit, he's a powerhouse
@@alexfns2427 her ability to crit low health enemies is handy to have but gets obsolete pretty fast as there are a lot of 1 hitting characters in this game(including her) even on hard...
I was in the Blue Lions and was able to recruit Hilda pretty early on. Like around ch5 or 6. It was definitely before the big mock battle at least.
nice! I'll definetly come back when I finish my firt run
Thank you for this. It's making my plan for how and who I want to recruit way easier.
On a Silver Snow playthrough and Dorothea is one of my best units. She knows METEOR. The unit that I found the most useful recruiting was Mercedes. She’s an excellent healer.
Lord Tullus 9 It’s the route where you side with the church. It branches from the black eagle route
@@sararue3367 thanks for explaining.
I recruited Ingrid for my Black Eagles Empire playthrough..
that poor girl must have some real trauma after that route :(
It's worst when you can't recruit her on the BE route.
I heard shes a racist and she really hatable by the fe fans
@@chaikagaz she doesn't Duscar, that's about as much as I know.
@@chaikagaz I mean, she hates Duscar because they murdered Farghus' king a few years prior. pretty understandable.
@@CordyBrush actually, the real reason is that Glenn her fiance died in the Duscur war
I should've tried harder on recruiting students before _that event..._ I all have is Ignatz and Lorenz.
Students i did not get : Bernadetta, Lorentz, Ferdinand and Hilda
I had the problem of being unable to reclass Byleth into an advanced class till he reached lvl 30 though.
Maybe i should have played normal mode to be able to grind but i will see how NG+ goes when i finish BL.
The story is better and has higher stakes the less you recruit, no worries ;)
I feel you. The moment i got ignatz and felix before the holy tomb part of BE i was so sad knowing it was already to late.
Who would ever want Lorenz? Playing GD right now and he's so fcking annoying.
@@spacepenguin3590 lol I went around constantly asking everyone. In the end it was just Him and Ignatz who actually accepted.
An interesting event happened on my BE playthrough, idk if can happen with other characters but when I beat Lysithea in part 2, I got the chance to spare and recruit her.
She’s the only one sadly, and that’s specifically because Claude said *REDACTED FOR SPOILERS*
That works for anyone. As long as your support level is high enough you can spare and recruit them
It's really easy in NG+
I got all of them even before battle of eagle and lion.
(Except Hilda due to being unable to be in the alternate path)
What does new game + exactly do
@@OK-sq2ou give you back your renow that you have spent on last file and with extra renow. Then you can spent it to quickly unlock stuff from your last file like your prof level, your support level with other, skill you have learnt. Also you keep your batallion and bonus training status. Unlock support up to B allow you recruit students much faster or A to immediately recruit them.
@@eco8374 Do you keep the SPENT renown? Didn't know that! I was trying to save some for the next playthrough.
I started my first playthrough on the alternate path and recruited every character i can.
Couldnt get catherine, hilda, seteth, flayn or cycil or dudei. Im gonna try the church route new game plus but not having edelgard makes me sad
@@chaikagaz I think flayn is exclusive to the church route, but I cannot say for sure.
I was already planning on doing this in my Golden Deer run, neat! Also, in NG+, you can basically buy weapon ranks, so don’t be afraid to branch out different weapon ranks and just buy them in the next playthrough so you can focus on new weapons afterward.
Male Byleth: wanna join
Sylvain: sorry man but you need charm and reason at C
Female Byleth: wanna join
Sylvain: YOUR MEER EXISTENCE IS ENOUGH FOR ME TO JOIN YOU
Guys, I'm playing the Blue Lion story right now & the hands down the BEST decision i have made was to recruit Petra! Make her either an Assassin or Sword Master & she will have 20+ base crit (depending on stats of course), she's super fast, dodges almost everything, and her ability is to increase crit rate if enemy is < 50% HP so if you can get a boss weak with your tank, she WILL finish them no problem. Equip her with Wao Dao or Killing Edge and you'll typically see crit rates around 70%. She also has decent Def & average Res. Petra is a beast.
She ACCIDENTALLY 1 shotted the flame emperor & death knight on multiple chapters when i was trying to train weaker units lmao
WhatIsGoinOnPeople at first I didn’t use her but when I was leveling her so just kept getting crits
That third wall break was hilarious my friend, appreciated the humor
From what I read, recruiting Hilda when you don't choose Golden Deer isn't based on story choices but your house as you cannot recruit Hilda if you go Black Eagles but you can recruit her if you do Blue Lions
Sled Deddson Nope, someone has recruited Hilda on Black Eagles path. So have I
Did you go Church route? From what I understand, she’s recruitable only in THAT small window of time, between siding with the Church and the time skip itself.
@@Nightshift-rv5nu shes only recruitable in silver snow so like ya technically BE but not the true BE route.
Great video! I found it really useful, and I will definitely use it when I get three houses.
As far as I'm concerned, the Golden Deer house has the best units bar Petra and Felix.
Bernadetta is godly too though, even though Deer has tons of archers
@@somedude5819 Bernadetta shines best when not an archer, but yeah shes a good unit if you dont get screwed on level ups.
@Sylvain Jose Gautier Isn't Ignatz and Raphael Golden Deer? It's been a while so I don't remember
@Sylvain Jose Gautier Well Raphael is definitely a monster with Gauntlets, at least for me he was. But I never really used Ignatz, however, the point still stands that Golden Deer are the best overall. Not to mention how broken Claudes final class is.
Hilda is only available in the Church Black Eagles route from what I've experienced. She never gave the option to give gifts or lost items for me until after the Eagles route split. I really had to grind out supports to get her.
I have b support with her but i can't gift her anything
I definitely recommend Petra over Linhardt for Black Eagles, unless you need another healer in Linhardt. Petra as an assassin is basically a one woman army.
Man, good flow chart, thank you.
Very clear and simple to understand ! Thank you
Your videos are so well made I dont know why others dont subscribe
Thanks for the video. I'm having a hard time deciding the house i'm gonna pick when i play this game but this video really helped me because not a lot of sources are very specific in what you need to recruit the charcters.
People probably already know this, but apparently you can recruit Catherine for free (I think it’s only in BL/GD route as I wasn’t able to in BE)
Edit: Recruited Hilda in BL route. It works (it only started working after Gatier Inheritance tho)
Just FYI, easiest way to do this is to use female byleth and choose golden deer.
Sylvain joins just cuz you chose female byleth and you need no supports or skills or at least extremely low (not 100% sure)
Also golden deer is the only house that doesn't have a character you can't recruit other than claude. Everyone but him can be recruited. There is no retainer. So if you choose female byleth and golden deer you can't recruit edelgard, dimitri, hubert, and dedue. And let's just assume you got sylvain already. That's only 11 students you actually have to try for instead of black Eagles with 12 and blue lions with 13.
Nah you don’t need stats he just joins if you’re female
Or if you pick Black Eagles, you get more units overall, and Sllvain for free.
Edgellatin XIV what do you mean? Each house has 8 characters. If you pick black eagles you get all 8 of them and Sylvain for free, but you still have to recruit the remaining 5 students in blue lions and 7 students from golden deer.
That's one extra student for you to recruit as opposed to choosing golden deer, getting all 8 students, Sylvain for free, the remaining 5 from blue lions but only 6 from black Eagles.
@@spiderdude2099 so for you easiest is just recruiting less. But it's not having the most students possible
Uh....yes. from there it's just a matter of recruiting as best you can which isn't too hard tbh.
What is this "having the most characters" complaint. I'm not really getting it. You start out with 8 if you choose blue lions and 9 if you choose the other two due to free sylvain. Am I wrong? It's not like the black Eagles have more total students. Every house has 8.
From there you go and recruit the others. Blue lions you will have the most to make up for with 13. Black Eagles have 12 and golden deer have 11.
Therefore with everything else being equal, the golden deer female byleth route has you needing to do the least work.
Gonna check this out later, when I want to recruit them all
IMO best to do a "gotta recruit them all" run after you play through all the paths normally. I screwed myself over with one of the paths by doing a recruit them all run.
@@jaeaik how did you screw yourself over?
@@CaptainFalchion the story becomes less. It's best to recruit 1 or two characters. There's less stakes in hand
@@jaeaik Oh ok that makes sense
Or do a ng+ then buy the B rank supports, renown is easy to get in this game.
5:10 Dude! Bernie, Ferdinand, and Petra are all monsters on the field! Esp. Petra early game and Bernie and Ferdinand late game. Pair them up with Dorothea's Meteor spell and Ingrid's flying skills, and you have the dream team!
The easiest way to think about recruitment requirements is by the following (not from how it's described in the video).
ALL students aside from a select few can be recruited using the following method:
B rank support, D rank in the skill they want
The exceptions to this are if the student wants Sword, Brawling, OR Authority. Since Byleth starts with these at a higher level than E, they require higher levels in the skill along with B support for the recruitment.
Sword -> C+ rank
Brawling -> D+ rank
Authority -> C rank
2 students to make note of are Caspar and Ferdinand. Both can't be B supported prior to the timeskip, so they need an additional level in their skill for recruitment.
And that's all there is to it. If you don't want to grind to B rank support, add an additional level to the skill. Ex: D+ instead of D.
Great explanation, up to pinned you go.
JaeAIK No problem! Lots of confusion on the recruitment requirements, but based on what I’ve seen this should be accurate. Recruited all students I could on my BL file.
I waited until the final day of school before something happens and recruited everybody except the unrecruitable people of course
Edit: so I missed alot of supports...
Nate can you really get someone to high enough support in one day?
ShadowGamer idk it might be that you can only get one support for a unit per day
I personally always recruit Bernadetta because A: when you train her right she becomes an absolute beast and B: I love her she is precious
just do a B level Support for the character you want to recruit and his or her requirements falls down to Skill D with 10+ to the particular stats, it's easy to farm Skill lvls in normal cause of the free maps but in hard you have to be mindful of how to spend you time in explorations but it's really doable to recruit all recruitable characters before the time skip happens, it's even made more easy in newgame+ as you can buy skill lvls and Support lvls respectively...
I just explore first week of the month and grind out battles for the rest of the month, otherwise you will severely be underleveled for the next battle
@@chaikagaz if you're doing hard then it's understandable BUT not recommended, if you're doing normal then 1 week per month for battles is enough unless you're doing paralogue and quest battles, you're missing out on A LOT if you only do exploration once a month, first off you cannot lvl your professor lvl properly, most of your activities in exploration gives you prof exp, when you do battles you don't get prof exp, the higher the prof lvl the more you can do in this game. next is support lvl and recruitment, you cannot build enough support lvl outside your house so you have less chance to recruit, specially since you have low prof lvl having less activity points, next is dunning, most people don;t know the importance of dinning, it gives you prof exp, it gives you bond and in maxes the motivation of the students, it's import if you want to focus on a student you want on instructing and you can focus on the characters you want to bond with, lastly getting instructions from other prof to lvl skills outside of battles, mount and armor skill in particular cannot be gained in battles if you don't have the proper class for it, to get that class you need to lvl the minimum skill required, not to mention some characters require those said skills to recruit... this game is easy even on hard if you compare it to other FE games if you're having a difficult fight on missions the best thing you need to do is over lvl Byleth he/she will dominate any maps alone unless there is a turn limit
the only thing to add is that if you allied with the black eagles there are some unit that just will not join up with you like Hilda and a few member of the church.
I’ve been recruiting students by whose prologues come first to give more time to finish them and to not to miss out on prologues that occur pre-timeskip. They also join at the same level as the recommended level for the month’s mission/prologues and it makes it easier so you don’t have to train them up.
* Make sure to at least C support Rhea before the Timeskip to unlock her post-Timeskip prologue. Her B support also has to be unlocked before Chapter 10, S support before Chapter 12 if you want to romance her/ have the conversations.
Also in my GD playthrough, seeing Caspar and Ferdinand’s B supports are locked after the Timeskip. If they are not in your house, B support with D+ required skill level or C support with a lower skill level (not sure if D) were required. I was able to recruit everyone else automatically at B supports with some more gifts (if my required skill was E+ or lower) or automatically/randomly during the calendar progression. I highly recommend recruiting via meals/gifts/chior vs faculty teaching/tea time bc you build prof level faster
I was able to unlock all possible GD prologues and recruit everyone via this method. There are also lots of awesome guides/discussions on Serene’s Forest and Samurai Gamers for more info including tea time answers!
Imma do blue lions route twice before trying other houses. Dimitri is a beast.
wait till you try to use Edelgard, she can tank both physical and magical and 1 hit all enemies at the same time, you can send her alone and destroy the whole map without any help specially with her crest which is the same sa Byleth that occasionally life steal the damage that she makes which activates almost all the time, she is arguably the best melee character in the game other than Byleth that can 1 hit from early to end game maps, sadly she is locked in BE and I'm pretty sure she is locked with Hubert cause you can't even buy their support level in the renown shop in newgame+, I'm playing BL now as my 2nd playthought and I gotta say Sylvain and Felix are way better than Dimitri in melee department, heck Ingrid outshines him in that regards as well
@@optimusfreim3686 me 70
It's not fair that only ladies get a freebie(Sylvain). It would be cool if Bernadetta was the freebie for the dudes. There are only 2 people that she is comfortable with, Alois and Byleth. It would make sense from a story standpoint if she transferred to Byleth's class to feel safer.
They also get the white and black magic class while guys can get the war master :(
I got Hilda on BL around month 9-10. I got to B rank with her, (A rank timelocked) and asked her to join my team twice. She denied both times, then requested to join randomly during the week. Best unit I have right now, by far. Also had no axe skill, and only increased charm twice.
Maybe minor potential spoilers
Im not sure if anyone else got this but on Edelgard's path post timeskip I was able to recruit Lysithea during battle where after defeating her it gave me the option of recruiting or killing her
Did you have a B support with her!? Because I was black eagles and I had already recruiter her
Spoilers.
Every house can recruit a student for free post-timeskip after beating them in battle with Byleth. You cannot unlock any supports with Byleth if you do so, however.
The Black Eagles get Lysithea, Blue Lions get Lorenz, and Golden Deer get Ashe.
@@osvaldoalcala9151 The same thing happened to me and I only had a C support with her.
Ummm spoilers?
I got the shit time skip with the black Eagles. The one where Edelgard betrays the church. So do I still get that option?
Yup I got her too like that
My recruitment in 4 route :
- Crimson Flower : Sylvain + Ingrid + Lysithea
- Azure Moon : Caspar + Lysithea
- Verdant Wind : Ingrid
- Silver Snow : Everyone
i have just recruited every single black eagle unit on my golden deer playthrough without even trying to do so ... i just recruited the 3 characters that i wanted and it just so happened that i also got the stats needed for the other students
How much grinding you did?
As long as if I have Dorothea on my side I am the happiest man alive.
Hades LordOfTheUnderworld same!
I just finished my path of the resistance army and married Dorothea last night. So pure
@@DVo-fe8ew That's Manuela
Truer words were never spoken.
@@DVo-fe8ew you speak such blasphemy of Dorothea, how dare ye.
I’ll only recruit them all so I can protect them. They don’t deserve the fate coming to them
I guess you also need a higher stat then E if you want to recruit a character with a B support.
I had Raphael on B, but he wouldn't join my class, since Byleth had E in armour.
Leonie joined as soon as I hit E+ or D
That flow chart is masterclass!
Thanks for this video and the chart!
Looking back two years later, seeing people recommend Caspar and Ashe. How far we’ve come.
Guys, don't bother with the skill requirements. INSTEAD -
1. Look up supports for each of your house members.
2. Have them eat dinner with you and another character from a different house they have supports with.
3. You build support with your house member AND the outsider.
4. Once support reaches B, they will ask to join you regardless of your skill level.
Notes:
1. Your house members might only have supports with 1-3 outside house members, its a good idea to designate a lunch partner that is unique to them that they will always lunch with until your rank is B.
2. Supports between your own house members will be sufficiently built via battle.
3. Invite a member from a different house and assign them as your adjuntant, this will build support between you and this character without sapping experience from the rest of your team.
Or...do both? Idk why you have to discredit everything I say here when I say in the video you realistically want to mix and match both, and even link a video that shows you how to do the other things so I don't have to go over it lmfao.
Thanks this comment was very helpful!
@@jaeaik You seriously dilute and weaken your main character by spreading out your skills AND waste precious points on useless faculty training which could be used for teatime and dinners. You literally cannot do both if you want to recruit everyone.
@@Mephil I would be inclined to agree if exploring the monastery was the entire game. But it's a waste of time to spend drinking tea with someone like Felix if your already in a class that shows profiency in swords. I can see how this could be useful for someone like Ferdinand, Raphael, Ingrid, all profiencies that most people won't likely spec into, but if your already in said class, then why would I waste my time drinking tea with them, and slinging gifts at them. And it's not like I don't mention it, i mention by name someone whose made a video guide on how you can maximize opportunities with other students not in your house in a great way, so I just simply don't go over it. So yes. You do want to do both.
this really helps and is actually a way faster method. i already recruited sylvain, ashe, ferdinand and dorothea using this method (and declined linhard!) and im only a few months in while my boyfriend only managed recruiting sylvain bc he focused on raising his stats for the characters.
A couple of other considerations:
1.) Leonie is one of the best potential cavaliers in the game as far as I can see. Her growth spread and base stats are great, she has no skill weaknesses, and her personal skill is very good. One of the best potential bow knights if your current roster is lacking in mounted units.
2.) Annette is a highly underrated student because she learns RECOVER (a surprisingly rare white magic) fairly early. If you look at the spell lists for the characters, Annette and Lorenz are the only students that both a) get Recover and b) have a decent Magic base/growth to utilize it fully. (Byleth can learn recover as well). Annette's black and white magic spell lists also contain useful spells like Abraxis (white) and Excalibur (black). Recover is the big one, because late-game characters have large HP pools and enemy attacks start dealing lots of damage. If you think you're going to be short on healing or need more magic nukage, consider recruiting Annette. The only downside is that she doesn't get Physic. (Mercedes seems to be a popular choice because of both Physic and Fortify, but she doesn't get Excalibur or Recover. Getting both of them wouldn't be a bad idea.)
Anyway, that's my two cents.
Linhardt gets Recover, too.
Luna Maria Nope. He gets physic. You might be thinking of restore.
@@Dr._Jazz oh yeah, right. woops.
I got Ingrid with D at flying, so she isn't as stingy. Definetly pick her up, considering she's the only character who can fly early on
I mean... Petra, Hilda, and Leonie all make great early fliers too. I'd argue Ingrid plays a bit too strongly into the Pegasus Knight archetype for her own good, since it's very easy for her Str and/or HP and Def to fall behind or not not start growing soon enough to be very viable until you're reaching the Advanced class level range anyway, so the early flight capability ends up a bit wasted.
Actually, on that note, Hilda can quite easily be trained to go straight from Pegasus Knight to Wyvern Rider, and then have her pick of which Master class to go with (or do both if you have the time), if one so desires to heave full time flying unit. Other girls might struggle raising both the Spear and Axe skills needed, but you can probably manage with any other of three as well, Hilda is just the easiest since she has the best weapon strengths and Str to work with early on to make those early levels more productive in battle. I imigine she might be the only viable early game flying unit candidate, if any, once the harder difficulties come out. Although, Petra's or Leonie's personal skills can both come quite in handy for getting kills.
Bottom line, I spent way too long rambling about how hard actually raising/using an early game Pegasus Knight usually is.
hey thanks I was struggling to recruit Dorothea. now I'll go buy her a bunch of gifts!
I love classic Shadow Dragon and Sacred Stone, but this one makes me almost cry of joy. Such a great and unsual game, I love social elements, that what makes it second favorite rpg series for me after Persona. But I think it is quite easier than its precedors. Thank you kindly for you guide, although I usually did everything by my own it is nice to understand why Sylvain joined me xD
I’m in Black Eagles and all I did to recruit Hilda is get to B support w her
Yoshimation I had a B but I couldn’t get her because the game only let me support her on the last month
did u start a ng+? that's the only way I can see how u could had recruited hilda into black eagles. I have her on B rank im black eagles and she still hasn't joined me
Hilda won't join Black Eagles if you're fem Byleth.
I have S with her and will update if I get her on the BE-empire route.
(I used NG+ after B rank)
I can confirm there is NO WAY to get Hilda on the Empire-route.
Even when you buy S rank with NG+ it isnt possible.
Ashtarte that’s false. I’m playing as Fem Byleth in Black Eagles, and on my Church route I was able to recruit Hilda right before the time skip
If you're gonna recruit lysithea, It's a safe bet that you'll want to recruit lorenz too. if only for access to his paralogue chapter which rewards you with thyrsus, an equippable wand that works with the crest of gloucester, and gives lysithea an extra 3 range on attacks, which really helps with her low move and defenses, on top of making her that much more of a threat.
I think I had a D in brawling when I recruited Caspar. This and Chaz's videos definitely helped. Next run (going Lions again, fite me) I'm taking Lysethia as well.
Yup! It's perfect how it all worked out. This video works well as a supplementary to chaz video as realistically you would be using both methods
I'm a simple man, I see Dorothea I click
Recruit them before the timeskip or they will die by your own hand. Ironic
You can still recurit most of them if you beat them in battle using MC and having a good support. Otherwise sad days
I'm sad because because I didnt know you could talk to them in battle and have them live and join you.... i killed them by using other units to approach and not the professor. I'm starting over now... because I didnt make multiple saves stupidly.
@@xionvixon3387 wait really?
@@xGroteskx WHAT REALLY?!?!?!
Josiah Collins WHAT. I had good support with Lysithea and I was able to spare her on the Black Eagles route, yet I wasnt able to save Ingrid, even though i had a good support with her
Hilda is recruitable in blue lions and church route but only once u select church route so there’s like 1 month where u can recruit her in church route cus u pick church route right before the timeskip
As far as I know, Hilda cannot be recruited while playing as the black eagles.
She can only be recruited in the church route of the BE. Crimson Flower, though? No...
I'm doing Golden Deer route and only recruited Felix and Ashe before part 2.
I did that my first playthrough too
I love how he said drowning them in tea
if you play on normal you can recruit them all(as in all the recruitables)
First play through I'm in the month 2/22 and got all but 5.(Leonie, Caspar, Ferninand, Raph and Gilbert) mainly because I didn't focus on recruiting, with a more focused run it could be do-able on the normal difficulty when you can use extra battles to boost some stats.
Key is increasing support levels to lower requirements for recruiting.
I just finished recruiting all recruitable students on my second playthrough. Oefff. I aint kill my babies.
Wow, that was very clear, at the moment I was watching the video, I'm only missing 1 student I really want to recruit, I'm having a lot of fun with the monastery and stuff.
If you are in Edelgard's route heres two tips, don't make flayn your dancer in the dancing event. And the other is lisithea apparently joins you automatically some time later in the story, i didn't have time to recruit her but she joined me herself, no proficiency requirement and my support for her wasn't even C. I heard it was similar for hilda joining you in church and blue lions route.
I recruited everyone on hard. With 2 episodes left, except hilda because you can’t recruit her until after (spoilers) when you lead the black eagles.
I'm Black Eagle house, and personally I made Ferdinand a Paladin, as if built right he will then have a high movement rate and high evasion. Making him very useful for the front lines.
My strategy is to get who I want first so I can spend my time leveling them up in the way that I want first; after, I wait until the last moment and run around recruiting everyone else. This way, I don't get overwhelmed with prospects and start neglecting the characters I will be using as well as letting The Battle of the Eagle and Lion really hit home.
Honestly, every play through I can recruit Sylvain he’s a good cavalry
Not to mention a good lad
Compared to Ferdinand he's kind of lackluster imo. Either that or I got RNG screwed with him.
Zant 41 I tend to have both of them out and that really helps me UwU
Just a side note, it isn’t possible to get Hilda on Black Eagles route if you commit to helping Edelgard as opposed to the Church. When she [Edelgard] asks you to help her in Ch. 11 on that route, from then on it is impossible to recruit Hilda, so just fair warning.
Chaz's video was awesome. Nice link
While you certainly CAN recruit as many as you want, it may not work in your favor to do so. There are rarely any maps that even allow you to deploy more than 10 characters, and that is even taking Byleth and the house lord into account.
i recommend recruiting marianne, because she's suicidally depressed and she's the only character in the game that doesn't show up after the timeskip in any of the routes unless you have her in your class
also she heals good i guess
Tai Wind I feel bad for saying this but she’s useless other than the fact that she can heal so I’ll probably recruit her last lmfao
@@tori_amelie4618 considering how starved i was for healers early on in my black eagles playthrough, and the fact that the game steals flayn from you if you side with edelgard, i'd say recruiting a second healer is necessary there unless you wanna power level dorothea's faith
The amount of sass in the lip smack after you mention sylvain joining your house automatically as a woman is just wonderful
I'm on my second Black Eagles playthrough and I recruited everyone except Annette. Idc if she joins or not. Felix, Bernadetta, Lysithia, Leonie, Sylvain, Petra, Caspar, Catherine and Hilda are heavy hitters. Too op for this game
Dorothea was the only student I recruited on my first playthrough (Blue Lions) because I didn't understand how recruiting worked and she was the only one who asked to join my house
I got Felix to recruitment right after Sylvain joined 🤔 I’d never done any support crap with either of them but my Blythe was almost maxed for sword specs
If you reach B support Rank with a unit then they will ask to join your house regardless of whether or not you have the Skill/Stat requirements.
I wish i knew this before ! Thanks guys