You are 100% correct, the Lancaster canal suffered a pollution incident last year and as of yet nobody has been charged or called to blame. I've been told that the E.A. has been told if it is pollution from a farming source log it and do nothing. In the USA wildlife laws come down heavily on those who pollute water courses. We should follow their example and place heavy financial fines on those who commit these crimes
A fine has to go through the judicial process. The EA has to choose its battles carefully. When a polluter challenges/delays an action the legal costs for the EA can be massive.
@@russellmurray8102 What. like this one?Michael Aylesbury, a director of Cross Key Farms, pleaded guilty at North Somerset Magistrates Court to causing an unpermitted discharge of slurry. He was fined £12,000 and ordered to pay costs of £13,631.08. According to the Environment Agency, which brought the prosecution, the discharge polluted the Somerset Frome river in Frome, turning it brown and smelly in August 2020, killing more than 120 adult fish, including many large pike, roach and chub. The regulator said that it was alerted to the pollution by members of the public on 20 August 2020. The sight of dead and dying fish distressed many people, the agency added. According to its statement, one local fisherman described feeling “physically sick” from the strong putrid smell of dead fish and said the sight of the dead fish was “heartbreaking”. The Environment Agency said that pollution came from slurry that had been washed out of a soiled cattle trailer and rinsed out onto a concrete yard at Bollow Farm, Silver Lane, East Woodlands. In addition, it said, a pile of slurry left open to the elements was washed into the surface water drain, ending up in the river. Environment Agency officers found the ditch and river smelt strongly of slurry and low in dissolved oxygen. Investigations also showed that the slurry pollution resulted in the death of most invertebrates over more than 2.6 kilometres downstream, according to the agency. Aylesbury was charged with causing an unpermitted water discharge activity, contrary to Regulations 12(1)(b) and Regulation 38(1)(a) of the Environmental Permitting (England and Wales) Regulations 2016. He was also charged with failing to ensure that slurry was stored in accordance with Regulation 4(1) of the Water Resources (Control of Pollution) (Silage, Slurry and agricultural Fuel Oil) (England) Regulations 2010, contrary to regulation 10(1) of the Water Resources (Control of Pollution) (Silage, Slurry and agricultural Fuel Oil) (England) Regulations 2010. In 2017, Aylesbury was found guilty of polluting this same stretch of the river Frome in 2016, killing more than 1,700 fish. He was fined £3,000 with £19,307 costs. Andy Grant, Environment Agency environment officer, said that it was “very disappointing to find another pollution from Bellow Farm following a previous prosecution for a major incident. The river was just beginning to recover and the fish population was showing signs of improving. “Informing us of the slurry spillage and keeping an eye on nearby watercourses are two simple actions the farmer should have taken to protect the local environment. We restocked the river following the 2016 incident and it is so disappointing to see that work undone.” Earlier this year, Velcourt Ltd, a firm which manages farms and provides consultancy advice to farmers, was ordered to pay out over £34,000 after ammonia-rich runoff from one of the farms it operates escaped into a tributary of the river Frome. Tags: Fines Monitor Prosecutions Related Articles Fines Monitor Environmental Law New water fine - total payout £34,170 29 Apr 2022 A Somerset farming company has been ordered to pay over £34,000 for allowing ammonia-rich water from escaping into tributaries of the river Frome. Land, Ecology & Development Interview: Ben Goldsmith on rewilding, wild swimming and ‘hustling on behalf of nature’ 24 Sep 2020 Financier, DEFRA board director and rewilding advocate Ben Goldsmith talks to ENDS about why Britain needs to be bolder about bringing back lost species and how he hopes to create a ‘green heart of nature restoration’ on his Somerset farm Water pollution Fish kill costs Somerset dairy farmer thousands 26 Jun 2017 A farmer has been found negligent after a slurry spill killed hundreds of fish in the river Frome Eco Chamber podcast advert
@@russellmurray8102 or this one? One of the UK’s largest farming businesses has been ordered to pay more than £34,000 after it polluted a water course leading into a major river. Velcourt, which manages more than 90,000ha of farmland in the UK and overseas, pleaded guilty at Hereford Magistrates Court on 4 April to polluting a tributary of Hardington Brook, which feeds into the River Frome in Somerset. See also: Leading dairy farmer fined £29,000 for pollution offences The incident took place four years ago, in August 2018, after intense rainfall followed a period of dry weather, washing muck from cow tracks into a ditch. The ditch was overwhelmed causing a discharge into local waterways, killing fish in the Hardington and Buckland Brooks. Environment Agency (EA) officers were called in and traced discoloured water to a sidestream flowing from Manor Farm, Hardington.
I 100% agree with your viewpoints. The EA are not fit for purpose & do not do the jobs they’re paid to do. The effluent discharges into our watercourses are an absolute disgrace, which are now being condoned by our current government - something must be done now to change this before it’s too late. The EA needs a complete overhaul & made to do the job it’s there to do. Just to give one example - I am 70yrs old, I grew up in Liverpool, lived outside Manchester for 28yrs (2 of the most heavily populated areas in the North of the country) I have been fishing since I was 6yrs old (that’s 64yrs!!!) in & around these areas, yet in those 64 yrs I have never once had my licence (which I religiously buy every year) checked by an EA officer??!!! This can’t be ‘coincidence’, the law of averages would dispute that. So where are these officers/what are these officers doing & being paid for? THE EA IS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE & NEEDS A COMPLETE OVERHAUL/DISBANDING!!😡😥🎣
The Angling Trust Enforcement work is funded by fishing licence income and delivered in partnership with the Environment Agency. Operation Traverse was set up by the Angling Trust in 2014
@@bobchamberlain4823 No he didn't. He voted in favour of a targeted reduction of waste water dumping in the Draft Environmental Targets (Water) (England) Regulations 2022
@@stevewilliams5428 political spin mate, he's got unashamedly sewerage on his hands like his fellow " knight🤔" sir James Bevan, you may wish to be hoodwinked by these people, but subterfuge doesn't wash with me
Down my neck of the woods i face multiple issues. 1. _'Undesirables'_ taking fish home for the pot. 2. Too many boats moored making a lot of stretches completely impossible to fish thanks to the C&RT handing out boat permits to everyone in the last decade or two. 3. massive stretches of rivers/canals that are rented by clubs. 4. Lots of stretches of river/canal that run through residential areas where the C&RT says you can fish, but private security kicks you out or places where its just completely fenced off by the local council to stop residents jumping or falling in. 5. lack of good sized fish because #1 -- these people will even eat bream. I stopped paying my waterway wanderers permit after the first year - It just didnt make much sense to carry on.... Cant really say much about the EA because my local river/canal has always been polluted anyway and its only gotten worse with the explosive growth of the boat people. I've been back to the stretches where i fished in my youth when it wasnt uncommon to have at least 4-8 pike out between 7-18lb per session. Ive done multiple sessions there and I havent gotten a single knock or a follow. --- Unfortunately these are the issues i face living in the south. Northerners seem to have much more luck and I would be lying if i said i wasnt jealous.
You haven't fished up north then? We've the exact same issues you list only add tourism & farming killing Windermere, Wye Valley is finished, otters being let out of vans at night on waters that historically have never supported them, after serious abuse from itinerate farming workforce. We had artic char, schelly, vendace, Ferox trout - world class fisheries 20 years ago.... Fishing pressure is no joke, but pollution under tories has seen the demise of pretty much all our rivers, they do recover but that takes huge investment, which comes from where? Our rod licence fund is literally a drop in the pond. Fact: It's the value of property that decides where our money goes, on fixing flooded areas, guess where, the South East. The north......keeps on flooding.
I agree with you Scott, but if I got caught without a rod license I could lose all my fishing tackle and a 1,ooo pound fine, dodgy decision to make, 🤔🤔
I 100 percent agree with u on this it's disgusting we need to protect rivers for us adults but mainly for future generations who want to fish all u hear about is them helping the commercial fisheries etc nothing to do with the broads or are rivers the efforts need to be put in the rivers and the broads and also help control the otters again need to be done aswell
Totally agree, we have had several pollution problems on our river in Suffolk (Brett) which has decimated the whole ecosystem of the river, EA have basically ignored our complaints. As you say they are not fit for purpose. Colin Hynard.
I think the big tackle companies with plenty of money behind them should do something! At the end of the day if there’s no fishing, there’s no need to buy tackle,then see how fast they will be to respond
I agree. Not just the tackle manufacturers. The makers, importers, wholesalers, retailers, clubs, riparian rights owners, bait companies, fish breeders, advertising agencies, canoeists, boat owners, marina owners, open water swimmers, ornithologists, tourist agencies, seaside resorts and property owners who rent out to water users. There is a whole army out there who have an interest in the quality of our water. They need to unite and put pressure using the democratic process to fight the pollution. Not paying your rod licence won't make a difference.
Alan Blair has just cottoned onto the fact without future fisheries, no future anglers or tackle sales. Danny Fairbrass has the Embryo project otter fencing - it's already being looked at I think.
Unfortunately the government always back big businesses as they have vested interest in them, that's why the Environment Agency hands are tied. I agree that Fish Legal would be a great asset to fishermen and it would be worth contacting them to see if it's possible for them to take up this challenge.
I 100% agree with you the e.a have been useless for years can't even remember the last time I saw a e.a member even checking on licenses and what really bugs me is when people are taking fish from canals and rivers they ask you to report it to the police who dont even care they don't even come out to it while they are still sat doing it and e.a just tell you when you ring them to ring police well I've already done that oh well nothing we can do apart from log the incident/report what good is that
The problem is that due to the huge increase in our population over the past few years, everyservice is swamped including our sewage works. Who is surprised at this? Londons population has increased by about 50% in the last 20 years or so who is surprised the Thames recieves so much pollution.
I agree , not just fishing its the environment. If one's good all will be good . Seems were in a society of greed , and selfish lazy shits . Being there myself picking up other people crap. Witness poaching. More so on commercial venues. We do need to speak up . 100% brother .
Totally agree with you mate and hooking the flush always is already happening on parts of the river Severn and other rives around the country to what I can gather as most water company's have a contract with the EA/Government saying they can only pump so much into them at a time which most don't seem to stick to , and if I remember right when the angling trust first set up wasn't they preaching about tacking the company's and EA to court when ever it happens and caused a decent fish kill to help get it stopped altogether over time and it seems to me it's just like everything else set up that gives the talk and dose a bit at the start with member's money and then goes quite and sits on same money building interest and doing nothing else
Thank you for using your platform to highlight the issues. People need to vote with their feet. The photos were horrifying. If that was pictures of livestock or wild animals, there would be up-roar.
U are right we need our waters ways to be protected but we don’t pay for a license we get fined not the big company’s we need a the government and environment agencies to get off the back sides and reverse this legislation now
Something needs to be done because the 30 quid to 45 quid we pay as course anglers and the game anglers pay plenty too we are no way getting back unless you fish a private commercial fishery.
There is a small lake in Dunkirk, Nottingham that was a lovely little fishing spot with a healthy population of Carp, Tench, Bream, Perch, Roach, pike etc, etc. A nearby metal recycling plant changed their processing system and as a result it began sending clouds of polluting dust into the air. The dust settled in a film on the pond surface starving the fish of oxygen and polluting the water. The Environment Protection Agency were informed several times about the pollution and they did tests that proved that the pollution was coming from the recycling plant. The problem could have easily be solved if the recycling plant sprayed water during the processing of the recycling materials. Spraying water however would cost money that the recyclers did not want to spend. Suddenly, for no apparent reason, the EPV lost interest in the case. The pollution continued. Did money change hands here perhaps? A fishing club had exclusive fishing rights to the lake and the chairman of the club approached the council and the local newspaper for help. A reporter said that they would do a big expose of the blatant disregard for anti-pollution laws that the recyclers were showing. That expose never made it to the papers. More money changing hands? Next thing to happen was that the council removed the exclusive fishing rights that the club had, despite the club looking after the lake and surrounding woodland for many years. Nobody, it seems, wanted to save this lake. I live in Australia but visit the UK as often as I can. My brother was a bailiff on the lake and I fished it as many times as I could when visiting Nottingham. It upsets me to think that if the recyclers had been forced to use spray water the lake could have been saved. The last time I fished the Dunkirk pond was in 2017. The lake is now so polluted that almost nothing lives in it. I agree that the EPV are a waste of space.
I know I've a bee in my bonnet over this but the river Teme that I fished in my childhood (60's/70's) was crystal clear...loaches, bullheads, shoals of minnows, trout, grayling, sea trout, salmon, chub, roach, pike. People fly fished, spun, float fished. You could wade a lot of it where it broadened out. Now? The shingle is covered in mud, spawning beds gone, the water is just muddy brown.l That's agricultural run off. It can be stopped, they can be fined but they aren't.
I worked for the EA about a decade ago and found it the most frustrating organisation to work for, there are some really good people there but it's so rife with bureaucracy and underfunding that 90% of the time their hands are completely tied. Response to incidents is slow because of all the paperwork, any money that actually gets extracted from polluters goes through so many hands that it's a fraction of the settlement by the time it goes to where it's needed and the staff are basically forced to work unpaid overtime if they want to get any plans seen through to completion. Typical public sector organisation, too busy untying their own web of bureaucracy to achieve anything that doesn't secure desperately needed funding. I love the environment and wanted to make a difference but it soon became clear that this wasn't the way to do anything good.
Be interested to know how you would relieve the problems you witnessed because it seems your department was/is another victim of Parkinson's Law. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law
Fully agree with your opinion mate, I'm 36, got a 3 year old boy, I feel that if this kind of pollution and disregard for our waterways keeps up I won't be able to take him fishing for wild fish in wild waters like my father did when I was young. Such a shame. I'm already a member of fish legal by the way, they do a great job trying to keep waterways pure but I feel even they don't have a big enough voice.
The EA have alwaya been useless! I gave up fishing rivers years ago because of the pollution. Maybe every 5 or 6 years they would dredge our local canal. Not good enough. But as someone said in comments, would you risk a £1000 fine ? Also, where are they when you report fish being taken illegally ? (No where )
The Environmental Agency are a national disgrace; way too in bed with the water companies when it comes to raw sewage discharges into water courses, and too free and easy in their attitude to water abstraction. Equally they appear very slow in tracking down polluters in the agricultural community. They appear equally negligent in their failure to oppose building developments on the flood plains of minor and major water course.
So true last summer I phone the EA about the floating drug dens on the Bristol Avon at Swineford not interested, next I phone the local MP not interested . I have not seen a bailiff for ten years when I did they were only after people who would pay a fine . The local angling club collect rubbish including sentry products.
But you said " I think Peter was expressing his disappointment that no prosecutions ever occur which gives the green light for polluters to carry on with bad practice" when it's clear prosecutions do occur. Make your mind up.
@@ssergorp7105 But you said " I think Peter was expressing his disappointment that no prosecutions ever occur which gives the green light for polluters to carry on with bad practice"... when it's clear prosecutions do take place. Make your mind up.
I've always been against paying a rod licence. In all the years I've been fishing I've had it checked once. They are either underfunded and drastically understaffed or they don't give a 💩.
I'm a sea angler and this is obviously at some point going to affect me! I haven't got a problem in the slightest paying for a rod license to fish the sea, needed or not, if it helps! EA need to sort their shit out! (literally) I actually live in Staffordshire but I sea fish, the canal system we have around us is unbelievable, MASSIVE! They are spending millions on tidying them up, which is fantastic but! I drive through surrounding towns, Congleton and Macclesfield and the size of the new housing estate's that are being built is STAGGERING! WHERE IS ALL OF THAT WASTE GOING? Apologies for the rant!!!!
If every angler boycotted the licence, what are they going to do, we need to all stand together as anglers, this has gone on for far too long, we need to make a stand for what is right as Anglers
I buy 2 every year and have only been checked twice in 24 years of having them. I'm going to put my money towards the anglers trust this year. EA is an impotent waste of time organisation!
WE have suffered a number of pollution events in South Cerney and the Thames/Ray. EA are immune to criticism and have tested my local MP who has no idea how to bring them to task.
It’s another stealth tax , car tax , tv licence , council tax , ulez , congestion charge, You get nothing for yore money, just fined if you don’t pay the government
Let's take direct action by having a demonstration outside of Parliament during Prime Ministers Questions. Loads of TV cameras for News outlets then on the green opposite!
Polluted rivers is low on there priority list . They are to tied up with climate change and flood defences. River water quality responsibility should be taken away from them altogether and given to a dedicated specialist organisation who can do the job properly.
The river colne at Heathrow is full of plastic bottles, environment agency came down to cut a few trees and ignored masses of plastic bottles and rubbish blocking a stretch of river
Although from Scotland where no rod licence is needed. This situation affects us all, anglers and non anglers alike. I cannot think of anything more pleasant than walking a riverbank or canal path where the water is clean fresh and alive and supports an abundance of life in and around the water. These natural habitats must be kept pollution free at all costs. Shame on those organisations and polluters who do not give a damn
My local river (Chelmer Essex) has had all the trees and Bankside bushes being taken away leaving nowhere for fish to breed or hide. They are getting huge amounts from boats and paddle boarders and canoeists and anglers come last . I can see this river being devoid of fish in the next few years.
In Somerset, a small stream fed from a spring at the foot of the mendips. This water fell as rain when the Romans were here. Crystal clear water full of trout and others. It runs for about 800 yards where the boundary changes. The huge dairy farm just pushes the sludge into it. From that mark down its dead. A cesspit.slowly being pushed towards the Severn by that constant flow from that spring.
The EA needs a better budget. The problem isn't the EA it's the government and water companies, I saw Matt Hayes Post, I've watched this video and read some of the comments not once did I see someone say they were refusing to pay their water bill until companies stopped dumping sewage. Nor did I see comments saying the person had been writing to their mp. Not buying a license only gives the EA less budget to do the things you want them to do.
Hi mate, I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments about protecting the rivers for the future generations and am moved by your video. I believe the Angling Trust/Fish Legal do get a part of the money from the rod licence. Correct me if I am wrong here. I am a volunteer Fish Legal bailiff (Angling Trust) but am still quite new to the organisation and am only a volunteer. I am also a regular litter picker on the stretches of waters local to me and I wish you every success in the campaign.
The last time I was asked to see my license was on the Trent at wilford power station in 1972 . It was closed in 73 that's how long it's been too many pen pushers come to mind
That's about the last time I was asked for my license. Rarely been asked to show my club books for that matter, in fact I was a member of a local club for ten years before having to show my membership. It doesn't bode well, does it?
Otters proves people don't value course fish as wildlife.Pollution has risen and nothing being done and as a northeast angler fish up here it's rubbish I had 1 minnow while fishing for chub and barbel in the river wear .Up here we get nothing for our money.There was a video on the EA TH-cam channel about where our money goes , stocking commercial fisheries not council ponds or rivers the fishery owner never opened the pond he sold as a private fishery for someone to enjoy who's rich .That money could have went to stocking the river wear in Fatfield or the council park ponds but that's the waste our license money went on we saw no fishing no value.Our ponds are nearly empty neglected ,otters Europeans mink have decimated everywhere and now seals in the wear that swim up to Durham .Sad times up here .
in northern ireland theres a ban of keeping seatrout and salmon because numbers are that bad but they put tax payers money into rehabilitating sick and injured seals and releasing them back into the wild to eat all the trout and totally wreck the natural balance
Hi mate, equally as irritated by it! Im old enough now (34) to remember washing my hands in the river before eating my sarnies but these days im actually fishing with safety gloves on 😂 its an absolute joke. I filmed a video a few months ago talking on the exact same issue while i was fishing the canal and found a 3lb jack belly up less than 150 yards from a sewer outlet from seven trent in handsacre, i didnt upload for the same reasons you spoke of but im definitely going to dig it out. Its a shambles.
Well spoken mate for the good of Englands fresh water fishing I hope you get this message across . And you get the majority of Fishing people behind you and this disgraceful situation is reversed by the Fishing Orthorities . Laurie from down under tight lines.
Its been happening for years! I seen a stretch of river, with EA signs everywhere , pumping it in the river. The stretch have lovely carp pike bream, the river stinks
This has been a problem for years in the canals and nothing got done and now they are full of shopping trolleys and no fish my childhood was spent on the canals and docks and that's no longer worth taking my kids there
I don’t know enough about this subject to agree or disagree with this video, so I would be curious to hear from others on this issue? What do the anglers trust think/say on this as well? One or two people not paying their rod licence will not make a difference, so if the issue is this bad, then wha do you do to make a difference? The government are starving all agencies of funds, think, schools, hospitals, health and safety executives and police forces. Why would the environmental agency be any different. These organisations are all striking rightly or wrongly (not getting into that one). The country is a mess full stop! Great talking point though.
Brilliant video with great content. we don't have rod licences in Scotland, but we do pay seasonal permits for access to river beats. the money goes to the fishing club, which then helps to improve the river and the surrounding areas for water life and public access. I think rod licence fees go to the treasury and then on to the EA as a budgeted amount, both of which take their cut. its all about the money in their pockets rather than the rivers.
I had the same issue a few years ago I tried to report a seal in the river seven it was destroying the fish but after fifteen phone calls with telling me who to ring they said its OK don't need to do anything
Agree 100%. The fishing in my local river has deteriorated tenfold in the last 10 years. I cant help but think the EA is hampered by this disgraceful governments decisions and funding. Like all our public services have been decimated under this administration.I am sure, like the police, like the nurses like our teachers the EA employees want to do a good job but have their hands tied.
Something is to be done before it's to late as we can all see it's starting already and them who don't have a fishing licence need to be caught as I've always had one but you see people fishing and getting away with no fishing licence and dumping rubbish leaving there bait's and bits of line all over we all need to put a stop to it all thank you for reading this
The area I live in kent has one of the worst polluting water company’s in the country. It also covers Sussex and Hampshire. They have polluted rivers and the sea on hundreds of occasions by discharging sewage in them. Southern water are owned by a Canadian teachers pension fund so as long as they pay big dividend they are not bothered. I believe these company’s are more liable than the environment agency because of their unlimited wealth. Im not a lover of nationalising things but maybe water is a case worth considering.
I am pretty sure Southern Water have been owned by Mcquarrie (spelling?) for the past 2 years. They are an Australian investment group who previously owned Thames Water. Yes, those nice people who repeatedly pumped raw sewage into the Kennet and Thames tributaries, killing millions of fish. They then were thrown out of Thames and grabbed Southern instead. They are only interested in profit. The National Lottery is the one ultimately owned by the Canadian teachers retirement fund.
Completely agree with you, as for EA, Perhaps it's time for them to stand up and be counted showing us if they are sincere or not about what they say ,are there policies .
With a government which allows the discharge of raw sewage into our rivers and coastal areas, we are fighting a losing battle. There are a number of organisations that highlight this problem, but still nothing changes. As individuals, we can do nothing but together we might just change things
100% all the way with your points brought up in this topic we've had a problem with with barges on the canals in North Yorkshire videos taken killing fish, what happened to the people who owned the barge jackshit, total discrace😡😡😡
The EA are not fit for purpose and haven't been for years we are seeing the same problems with pollution, flooding and the like year in year out, if every angler refused to pay the licence fee it would be a huge statement whether it's doable tho is debatable.
Here where I live they started dumping s sewage in the river already and it's not just the river or will affect what about the impact on the sea's round the UK
Well said,all so there needs to be a new policy where only organic farming can be done within in a 1 mile zone of a river,this would help chemical run of and cow dung and this is also a massive polluter as with chicken waste. Also boat waste oil diesel and so on. Bring in a boat mot more frequently to stop spillages . And so on I love the can of worms you opened Blessings
Name one ministry that does it's job, ministry of transport, the roads are a mess, ministry of health what's left of it, ministry of the environment 🙄 ministry of education, ministry of justice, ministry of defence, it's a joke, they are all getting paid for doing nothing 🤔🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Its already like that on the wensum and getting like that on the broads. You catch so many sanitary towls and there's always a brown sediment floating through the water. Disgusting. But the norfolk conservative mp voted and allowed Anglian wate a uncapped sewage discharge amount per annum 😢
They’ve always had the backing of the government. The EA were told years ago not to do anything when the farmers pumped their waste into the rivers and streams.
Every angler should join angling trust they are fighting exactly what u are talking about £30 for the year the more members they have the more they can fight they have already won some big battles and won so our trust in angling and protecting it is in the angling trust not the ea the ea just serves our waterways not fishing
The Angling Trust Enforcement work is funded by fishing licence income and delivered in partnership with the Environment Agency. Operation Traverse was set up by the Angling Trust in 2014
Massive fish kill on the broads which ea were told b4 to close the sea gates and they just ignored it and one boat yard removed a ton (in weight)then week later they were in same area checking license
I was about to go back to flyfishing after a long time not doing so (accident) I am horrified to hear what the water companies are doing. Sounds like the EA are a bit useless? Think I'll keep my rod license money and flyfish in the sea !!!! Grrrrr
That's a fair dig, esp when ya talk about "other anglers". I walk the Wharfe around Knotford Nook, and some of the mess left by so called fisher folk is appalling, esp when some boys travel down from the north east to fish there. Nope, i'm not blaming it ALL on geordies, but i've seen the mess first hand. Mostly cans ( not pop )and sandwich wrappers. Oh, and the odd barbeque tray !
How does refusing to pay the rod licence help? The EA is underfunded which has led to less staff and less resources. The problem used to be industrial pollution which is no longer a problem. The latest issue is semi raw sewage because water companies are privatised and turn the valve to empty the tanks because it's cheaper than dealing with the sewage. It is all about the money and there is none. The Yorkshire river systems are in fact largely recovered from industrial pollution so since 2009 salmon actually run up the Ouse and Hull and well up into the dales and moors. It's not as bad as some are making out, but any improvement will cost a LOT of money and investment. Not paying for rod licences won't help. At all. It's a careless and ill considered answer that won't address the issue.
@@stevewilliams5428 Hi Steve! I thought so…. But no real reason why the fish shouldn’t run up there as its a chalk stream and the southern chalkies get runs of salmon. There are fish passes on the locks too.
I agree 100 percent what you're saying but I don't see what you can do about it, rod licences generate a vast amount of money, most of which the EA don't even see, it goes straight to government so I can't see them letting anyone else take control, is the EA really the problem or is it lack of funding from the the government 🤔
Well said fella, I thought I started EA #NOTFITFORPURPOSE a couple of years ago, glad it's gaining momentum, no matter who started it, it is a very dire situation, luckily the public are waking upto it, as for the Angling Trust their chairman sir charles walker voted to dump raw untreated sewerage into our aquatic environment, so they are not much better, and funded by the EA, we need an organisation by anglers, for anglers and with anglers
You keep saying this...."the Angling Trust their chairman sir charles walker voted to dump raw untreated sewerage into our aquatic environment,"... But it's not true, he voted FOR the bill that proposes a reduction in sewage release into our waters.
@@stevewilliams5428 did he?, stepped down pretty damn quick when Angling times exposed him though didn't he, how ever you want to " dress it up with political side stepping and usual bs double speak!!"
@@bobchamberlain4823 check his voting record, it's easy enough to do....he voted FOR the bill to tackle sewage release into our waters. You need a bigger tin hat.
@@stevewilliams5428 tin hat, this is bloody war mate, no political spin bullshit, no half measures its either " yes to dumping sewerage " or " no" he voted yes end of, just like the rest of the tossers
Agreed and population has a huge impact on the environment theres more people in Yorkshire than the whole of Ireland, New Zealand , Norway , Denmark… etc
While I agree with your points (I live in Yorkshire, Yorkshire Water are one of the worst offenders for sewage pollution) I personally cannot afford a fine or to lose my gear so I begrudgingly pay my license fee. I am also a member of the Angling Trust/Fish Legal. I would rather my license money went to AT/FL than the EA but the system is the way it is. If enough of us shout loud enough we can make our voices heard with the backing of the AT. Keep up the fight mate.
Who are the people at the top of the environment agency, these are the ones who need looking at bank records , assets ect they are as corrupt as politicians
I'm not a fisherman as such I only used to sea fish ( not for the last God knows how long ago ) but I do understand pumping any foreign bodies in any river will do damage not just to that one river but coastal waters and any other tidal river close by .
Totally agree 100%. So is there a plan going forward? This is so weird because i have literally just got in from a blank on the river wondering why. Im not going to mention names at this stage but i bumped into a guy who's land backs onto said river. He told me today he believes its all down to a chicken farm down the road which there crap is getting into the water course and then the river. Mate im in if there is going to be a debate on this. If you need contact details im sure we can work something out 👍
One of the biggest problems is the water company's are making hundreds of thousands if not millions so if they get fines of a few thousand or even a million it's cheaper for them also the government are policing them self's if it was happening to the private game rivers it would be a totally different story
I totally agree but could not afford to replace my gear let alone pay a fine. The EA are not fit for purpose and it’s been like that for years. And Matt Haynes is absolutely spot on in his post
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Generate a petition, I'm sure all true anglers would sign it to get some sort of conversation with EA.
😂👍🤡
Money is the only thing these people understand.......
There was a petition a year ago. Not on behalf of anglers mind. I’m sure it gained enough signatures to get into parliament
even non anglers will sign ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
id sign..
You are 100% correct, the Lancaster canal suffered a pollution incident last year and as of yet nobody has been charged or called to blame. I've been told that the E.A. has been told if it is pollution from a farming source log it and do nothing. In the USA wildlife laws come down heavily on those who pollute water courses. We should follow their example and place heavy financial fines on those who commit these crimes
A fine has to go through the judicial process. The EA has to choose its battles carefully. When a polluter challenges/delays an action the legal costs for the EA can be massive.
I fully understand that, but as I said the EA will not follow up a farming pollution source
@@russellmurray8102 What. like this one?Michael Aylesbury, a director of Cross Key Farms, pleaded guilty at North Somerset Magistrates Court to causing an unpermitted discharge of slurry. He was fined £12,000 and ordered to pay costs of £13,631.08.
According to the Environment Agency, which brought the prosecution, the discharge polluted the Somerset Frome river in Frome, turning it brown and smelly in August 2020, killing more than 120 adult fish, including many large pike, roach and chub.
The regulator said that it was alerted to the pollution by members of the public on 20 August 2020. The sight of dead and dying fish distressed many people, the agency added. According to its statement, one local fisherman described feeling “physically sick” from the strong putrid smell of dead fish and said the sight of the dead fish was “heartbreaking”.
The Environment Agency said that pollution came from slurry that had been washed out of a soiled cattle trailer and rinsed out onto a concrete yard at Bollow Farm, Silver Lane, East Woodlands. In addition, it said, a pile of slurry left open to the elements was washed into the surface water drain, ending up in the river.
Environment Agency officers found the ditch and river smelt strongly of slurry and low in dissolved oxygen. Investigations also showed that the slurry pollution resulted in the death of most invertebrates over more than 2.6 kilometres downstream, according to the agency.
Aylesbury was charged with causing an unpermitted water discharge activity, contrary to Regulations 12(1)(b) and Regulation 38(1)(a) of the Environmental Permitting (England and Wales) Regulations 2016.
He was also charged with failing to ensure that slurry was stored in accordance with Regulation 4(1) of the Water Resources (Control of Pollution) (Silage, Slurry and agricultural Fuel Oil) (England) Regulations 2010, contrary to regulation 10(1) of the Water Resources (Control of Pollution) (Silage, Slurry and agricultural Fuel Oil) (England) Regulations 2010.
In 2017, Aylesbury was found guilty of polluting this same stretch of the river Frome in 2016, killing more than 1,700 fish. He was fined £3,000 with £19,307 costs.
Andy Grant, Environment Agency environment officer, said that it was “very disappointing to find another pollution from Bellow Farm following a previous prosecution for a major incident. The river was just beginning to recover and the fish population was showing signs of improving.
“Informing us of the slurry spillage and keeping an eye on nearby watercourses are two simple actions the farmer should have taken to protect the local environment. We restocked the river following the 2016 incident and it is so disappointing to see that work undone.”
Earlier this year, Velcourt Ltd, a firm which manages farms and provides consultancy advice to farmers, was ordered to pay out over £34,000 after ammonia-rich runoff from one of the farms it operates escaped into a tributary of the river Frome.
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@@russellmurray8102 or this one? One of the UK’s largest farming businesses has been ordered to pay more than £34,000 after it polluted a water course leading into a major river.
Velcourt, which manages more than 90,000ha of farmland in the UK and overseas, pleaded guilty at Hereford Magistrates Court on 4 April to polluting a tributary of Hardington Brook, which feeds into the River Frome in Somerset.
See also: Leading dairy farmer fined £29,000 for pollution offences
The incident took place four years ago, in August 2018, after intense rainfall followed a period of dry weather, washing muck from cow tracks into a ditch.
The ditch was overwhelmed causing a discharge into local waterways, killing fish in the Hardington and Buckland Brooks.
Environment Agency (EA) officers were called in and traced discoloured water to a sidestream flowing from Manor Farm, Hardington.
I 100% agree with your viewpoints. The EA are not fit for purpose & do not do the jobs they’re paid to do. The effluent discharges into our watercourses are an absolute disgrace, which are now being condoned by our current government - something must be done now to change this before it’s too late. The EA needs a complete overhaul & made to do the job it’s there to do. Just to give one example - I am 70yrs old, I grew up in Liverpool, lived outside Manchester for 28yrs (2 of the most heavily populated areas in the North of the country) I have been fishing since I was 6yrs old (that’s 64yrs!!!) in & around these areas, yet in those 64 yrs I have never once had my licence (which I religiously buy every year) checked by an EA officer??!!! This can’t be ‘coincidence’, the law of averages would dispute that. So where are these officers/what are these officers doing & being paid for? THE EA IS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE & NEEDS A COMPLETE OVERHAUL/DISBANDING!!😡😥🎣
Could not agree more! We need to fight the EA via membership of the Angling Trust.
The Angling Trust Enforcement work is funded by fishing licence income and delivered in partnership with the Environment Agency. Operation Traverse was set up by the Angling Trust in 2014
Their chairman sir charles walker voted to dump raw sewerage in our waterways, so how would that help?
@@bobchamberlain4823 No he didn't. He voted in favour of a targeted reduction of waste water dumping in the Draft Environmental Targets (Water) (England) Regulations 2022
@@stevewilliams5428 political spin mate, he's got unashamedly sewerage on his hands like his fellow " knight🤔" sir James Bevan, you may wish to be hoodwinked by these people, but subterfuge doesn't wash with me
@@bobchamberlain4823 He voted in favour of a programme to reduce sewage outfall into our waterways. Not very bright are you.
Down my neck of the woods i face multiple issues.
1. _'Undesirables'_ taking fish home for the pot.
2. Too many boats moored making a lot of stretches completely impossible to fish thanks to the C&RT handing out boat permits to everyone in the last decade or two.
3. massive stretches of rivers/canals that are rented by clubs.
4. Lots of stretches of river/canal that run through residential areas where the C&RT says you can fish, but private security kicks you out or places where its just completely fenced off by the local council to stop residents jumping or falling in.
5. lack of good sized fish because #1 -- these people will even eat bream.
I stopped paying my waterway wanderers permit after the first year - It just didnt make much sense to carry on....
Cant really say much about the EA because my local river/canal has always been polluted anyway and its only gotten worse with the explosive growth of the boat people. I've been back to the stretches where i fished in my youth when it wasnt uncommon to have at least 4-8 pike out between 7-18lb per session. Ive done multiple sessions there and I havent gotten a single knock or a follow.
--- Unfortunately these are the issues i face living in the south. Northerners seem to have much more luck and I would be lying if i said i wasnt jealous.
You haven't fished up north then? We've the exact same issues you list only add tourism & farming killing Windermere, Wye Valley is finished, otters being let out of vans at night on waters that historically have never supported them, after serious abuse from itinerate farming workforce. We had artic char, schelly, vendace, Ferox trout - world class fisheries 20 years ago....
Fishing pressure is no joke, but pollution under tories has seen the demise of pretty much all our rivers, they do recover but that takes huge investment, which comes from where? Our rod licence fund is literally a drop in the pond.
Fact:
It's the value of property that decides where our money goes, on fixing flooded areas, guess where, the South East. The north......keeps on flooding.
I agree with you Scott, but if I got caught without a rod license I could lose all my fishing tackle and a 1,ooo pound fine, dodgy decision to make, 🤔🤔
I 100 percent agree with u on this it's disgusting we need to protect rivers for us adults but mainly for future generations who want to fish all u hear about is them helping the commercial fisheries etc nothing to do with the broads or are rivers the efforts need to be put in the rivers and the broads and also help control the otters again need to be done aswell
@@ssergorp7105 it true they need to manage the otters aswell as all the other problems was just blaming otters
Totally agree, we have had several pollution problems on our river in Suffolk (Brett) which has decimated the whole ecosystem of the river, EA have basically ignored our complaints. As you say they are not fit for purpose. Colin Hynard.
We live on an Island that can barely cope environmentally with 40m people, let alone the numbers we have now.
I think the big tackle companies with plenty of money behind them should do something! At the end of the day if there’s no fishing, there’s no need to buy tackle,then see how fast they will be to respond
I agree. Not just the tackle manufacturers. The makers, importers, wholesalers, retailers, clubs, riparian rights owners, bait companies, fish breeders, advertising agencies, canoeists, boat owners, marina owners, open water swimmers, ornithologists, tourist agencies, seaside resorts and property owners who rent out to water users. There is a whole army out there who have an interest in the quality of our water. They need to unite and put pressure using the democratic process to fight the pollution. Not paying your rod licence won't make a difference.
Alan Blair has just cottoned onto the fact without future fisheries, no future anglers or tackle sales. Danny Fairbrass has the Embryo project otter fencing - it's already being looked at I think.
Unfortunately the government always back big businesses as they have vested interest in them, that's why the Environment Agency hands are tied. I agree that Fish Legal would be a great asset to fishermen and it would be worth contacting them to see if it's possible for them to take up this challenge.
I 100% agree with you the e.a have been useless for years can't even remember the last time I saw a e.a member even checking on licenses and what really bugs me is when people are taking fish from canals and rivers they ask you to report it to the police who dont even care they don't even come out to it while they are still sat doing it and e.a just tell you when you ring them to ring police well I've already done that oh well nothing we can do apart from log the incident/report what good is that
This washes out to sea. Eventually killing the coastal environment. Plus shutting Beaches with loss in many families income 😢
I've always been an advocate for rod licencing, but after hearing this I have had a rethink. Time to stand up and challenge the E A!
The problem is that due to the huge increase in our population over the past few years, everyservice is swamped including our sewage works. Who is surprised at this? Londons population has increased by about 50% in the last 20 years or so who is surprised the Thames recieves so much pollution.
yes totally agree, lots of shit coming in to the country, and lots of shit coming out of them
I agree , not just fishing its the environment. If one's good all will be good . Seems were in a society of greed , and selfish lazy shits . Being there myself picking up other people crap. Witness poaching. More so on commercial venues. We do need to speak up . 100% brother .
It's the same over here in Ireland, our rivers have been decimated by slurry 👎🏻👎🏻, it's an absolute disgrace!!
Totally agree with you mate and hooking the flush always is already happening on parts of the river Severn and other rives around the country to what I can gather as most water company's have a contract with the EA/Government saying they can only pump so much into them at a time which most don't seem to stick to , and if I remember right when the angling trust first set up wasn't they preaching about tacking the company's and EA to court when ever it happens and caused a decent fish kill to help get it stopped altogether over time and it seems to me it's just like everything else set up that gives the talk and dose a bit at the start with member's money and then goes quite and sits on same money building interest and doing nothing else
Cormorants need controlling mink otters nothing left already
Thank you for using your platform to highlight the issues. People need to vote with their feet. The photos were horrifying. If that was pictures of livestock or wild animals, there would be up-roar.
The other trouble is £28m from rod licences doesn't support the ea for everything they need to do to protect waters and fishing country wide
this is a message what had needed to be out for a long time.
thames water has been pumping sewage overflows for over 1000 hours into my local thames.
U are right we need our waters ways to be protected but we don’t pay for a license we get fined not the big company’s we need a the government and environment agencies to get off the back sides and reverse this legislation now
Something needs to be done because the 30 quid to 45 quid we pay as course anglers and the game anglers pay plenty too we are no way getting back unless you fish a private commercial fishery.
There is a small lake in Dunkirk, Nottingham that was a lovely little fishing spot with a healthy population of Carp, Tench, Bream, Perch, Roach, pike etc, etc. A nearby metal recycling plant changed their processing system and as a result it began sending clouds of polluting dust into the air. The dust settled in a film on the pond surface starving the fish of oxygen and polluting the water.
The Environment Protection Agency were informed several times about the pollution and they did tests that proved that the pollution was coming from the recycling plant. The problem could have easily be solved if the recycling plant sprayed water during the processing of the recycling materials. Spraying water however would cost money that the recyclers did not want to spend.
Suddenly, for no apparent reason, the EPV lost interest in the case. The pollution continued. Did money change hands here perhaps?
A fishing club had exclusive fishing rights to the lake and the chairman of the club approached the council and the local newspaper for help. A reporter said that they would do a big expose of the blatant disregard for anti-pollution laws that the recyclers were showing. That expose never made it to the papers. More money changing hands?
Next thing to happen was that the council removed the exclusive fishing rights that the club had, despite the club looking after the lake and surrounding woodland for many years. Nobody, it seems, wanted to save this lake.
I live in Australia but visit the UK as often as I can. My brother was a bailiff on the lake and I fished it as many times as I could when visiting Nottingham. It upsets me to think that if the recyclers had been forced to use spray water the lake could have been saved. The last time I fished the Dunkirk pond was in 2017.
The lake is now so polluted that almost nothing lives in it.
I agree that the EPV are a waste of space.
Be interesting to get Feargal Sharkey's view on this I personally 100% agree with you 👍
I believe he has a good heart .. that's hard to find these days
Fergal patron of chalk stream protection excellent
His perfect cousin is also very knowledgeable......
I agree with these ‘ Undertones ‘
He's just another voice, dowsey, at t'end of'day. ( He sold out too, in his singing days. )
I know I've a bee in my bonnet over this but the river Teme that I fished in my childhood (60's/70's) was crystal clear...loaches, bullheads, shoals of minnows, trout, grayling, sea trout, salmon, chub, roach, pike. People fly fished, spun, float fished. You could wade a lot of it where it broadened out.
Now? The shingle is covered in mud, spawning beds gone, the water is just muddy brown.l That's agricultural run off. It can be stopped, they can be fined but they aren't.
I worked for the EA about a decade ago and found it the most frustrating organisation to work for, there are some really good people there but it's so rife with bureaucracy and underfunding that 90% of the time their hands are completely tied. Response to incidents is slow because of all the paperwork, any money that actually gets extracted from polluters goes through so many hands that it's a fraction of the settlement by the time it goes to where it's needed and the staff are basically forced to work unpaid overtime if they want to get any plans seen through to completion. Typical public sector organisation, too busy untying their own web of bureaucracy to achieve anything that doesn't secure desperately needed funding. I love the environment and wanted to make a difference but it soon became clear that this wasn't the way to do anything good.
Be interested to know how you would relieve the problems you witnessed because it seems your department was/is another victim of Parkinson's Law. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law
@@alangood8190 Most larger buisnesses suffer from that disease, i fancy.
Not paying my licence fee won't make a difference plus can't afford to get a big fine 😤
Fully agree with your opinion mate, I'm 36, got a 3 year old boy, I feel that if this kind of pollution and disregard for our waterways keeps up I won't be able to take him fishing for wild fish in wild waters like my father did when I was young. Such a shame. I'm already a member of fish legal by the way, they do a great job trying to keep waterways pure but I feel even they don't have a big enough voice.
The EA have alwaya been useless! I gave up fishing rivers years ago because of the pollution. Maybe every 5 or 6 years they would dredge our local canal. Not good enough. But as someone said in comments, would you risk a £1000 fine ? Also, where are they when you report fish being taken illegally ? (No where )
The Environmental Agency are a national disgrace; way too in bed with the water companies when it comes to raw sewage discharges into water courses, and too free and easy in their attitude to water abstraction. Equally they appear very slow in tracking down polluters in the agricultural community. They appear equally negligent in their failure to oppose building developments on the flood plains of minor and major water course.
So true last summer I phone the EA about the floating drug dens on the Bristol Avon at Swineford not interested, next I phone the local MP not interested . I have not seen a bailiff for ten years when I did they were only after people who would pay a fine .
The local angling club collect rubbish including sentry products.
100% with you. EA not worth the paper its written on. Fine should be immediate when pollution discovered.
So you are going to ignore "innocent until proven guilty"?
@@ssergorp7105 Plenty of successful prosecutions take place and I've posted details of them elsewhere on this video.
But you said " I think Peter was expressing his disappointment that no prosecutions ever occur which gives the green light for polluters to carry on with bad practice" when it's clear prosecutions do occur. Make your mind up.
@@ssergorp7105 But you said " I think Peter was expressing his disappointment that no prosecutions ever occur which gives the green light for polluters to carry on with bad practice"... when it's clear prosecutions do take place. Make your mind up.
@@ssergorp7105 But the prosecutions have to be significant by their very nature. Not very bright are you?
I've always been against paying a rod licence. In all the years I've been fishing I've had it checked once. They are either underfunded and drastically understaffed or they don't give a 💩.
I'm a sea angler and this is obviously at some point going to affect me!
I haven't got a problem in the slightest paying for a rod license to fish the sea, needed or not, if it helps!
EA need to sort their shit out! (literally)
I actually live in Staffordshire but I sea fish, the canal system we have around us is unbelievable, MASSIVE!
They are spending millions on tidying them up, which is fantastic but!
I drive through surrounding towns, Congleton and Macclesfield and the size of the new housing estate's that are being built is STAGGERING!
WHERE IS ALL OF THAT WASTE GOING?
Apologies for the rant!!!!
If every angler boycotted the licence, what are they going to do, we need to all stand together as anglers, this has gone on for far too long, we need to make a stand for what is right as Anglers
agreed, unfortunately cant risk a fine unfortunately, its the same as the tv license not fit for purpose
If you pay your TV licence you are stupid and if you still watch the bbc your the problem
I buy 2 every year and have only been checked twice in 24 years of having them. I'm going to put my money towards the anglers trust this year. EA is an impotent waste of time organisation!
It's not just fisherman, it's everyone we all live in it everyone of us .
WE have suffered a number of pollution events in South Cerney and the Thames/Ray. EA are immune to criticism and have tested my local MP who has no idea how to bring them to task.
It’s another stealth tax , car tax , tv licence , council tax , ulez , congestion charge,
You get nothing for yore money, just fined if you don’t pay the government
I've not had a great deal of respect for the ea for many years. Never thought they put the rod license money to good use.
Let's take direct action by having a demonstration outside of Parliament during Prime Ministers Questions. Loads of TV cameras for News outlets then on the green opposite!
Polluted rivers is low on there priority list . They are to tied up with climate change and flood defences. River water quality responsibility should be taken away from them altogether and given to a dedicated specialist organisation who can do the job properly.
The river colne at Heathrow is full of plastic bottles, environment agency came down to cut a few trees and ignored masses of plastic bottles and rubbish blocking a stretch of river
Although from Scotland where no rod licence is needed. This situation affects us all, anglers and non anglers alike. I cannot think of anything more pleasant than walking a riverbank or canal path where the water is clean fresh and alive and supports an abundance of life in and around the water. These natural habitats must be kept pollution free at all costs. Shame on those organisations and polluters who do not give a damn
Agree, my local canal gets polluted on a regular basis, thousands of fish die, they do nothing.
My local river (Chelmer Essex) has had all the trees and Bankside bushes being taken away leaving nowhere for fish to breed or hide. They are getting huge amounts from boats and paddle boarders and canoeists and anglers come last . I can see this river being devoid of fish in the next few years.
In Somerset, a small stream fed from a spring at the foot of the mendips.
This water fell as rain when the Romans were here.
Crystal clear water full of trout and others. It runs for about 800 yards where the boundary changes. The huge dairy farm just pushes the sludge into it.
From that mark down its dead.
A cesspit.slowly being pushed towards the Severn by that constant flow from that spring.
The EA needs a better budget. The problem isn't the EA it's the government and water companies, I saw Matt Hayes Post, I've watched this video and read some of the comments not once did I see someone say they were refusing to pay their water bill until companies stopped dumping sewage. Nor did I see comments saying the person had been writing to their mp. Not buying a license only gives the EA less budget to do the things you want them to do.
Why are you paying for water it's a basic human right
I've e.mailed the EA to see if they will stock some fish where I live I very much doubt that they will I'm going to press the issue.
Hi mate, I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments about protecting the rivers for the future generations and am moved by your video. I believe the Angling Trust/Fish Legal do get a part of the money from the rod licence. Correct me if I am wrong here. I am a volunteer Fish Legal bailiff (Angling Trust) but am still quite new to the organisation and am only a volunteer. I am also a regular litter picker on the stretches of waters local to me and I wish you every success in the campaign.
The last time I was asked to see my license was on the Trent at wilford power station in 1972 . It was closed in 73 that's how long it's been too many pen pushers come to mind
That's about the last time I was asked for my license. Rarely been asked to show my club books for that matter, in fact I was a member of a local club for ten years before having to show my membership. It doesn't bode well, does it?
Otters proves people don't value course fish as wildlife.Pollution has risen and nothing being done and as a northeast angler fish up here it's rubbish I had 1 minnow while fishing for chub and barbel in the river wear .Up here we get nothing for our money.There was a video on the EA TH-cam channel about where our money goes , stocking commercial fisheries not council ponds or rivers the fishery owner never opened the pond he sold as a private fishery for someone to enjoy who's rich .That money could have went to stocking the river wear in Fatfield or the council park ponds but that's the waste our license money went on we saw no fishing no value.Our ponds are nearly empty neglected ,otters Europeans mink have decimated everywhere and now seals in the wear that swim up to Durham .Sad times up here .
in northern ireland theres a ban of keeping seatrout and salmon because numbers are that bad but they put tax payers money into rehabilitating sick and injured seals and releasing them back into the wild to eat all the trout and totally wreck the natural balance
@@whitetroutchannel I've had comments removed I just removed some myself someone does not like the truth.The state of fishing will get worse mate.
Hi mate, equally as irritated by it!
Im old enough now (34) to remember washing my hands in the river before eating my sarnies but these days im actually fishing with safety gloves on 😂 its an absolute joke. I filmed a video a few months ago talking on the exact same issue while i was fishing the canal and found a 3lb jack belly up less than 150 yards from a sewer outlet from seven trent in handsacre, i didnt upload for the same reasons you spoke of but im definitely going to dig it out. Its a shambles.
Well spoken mate for the good of Englands fresh water fishing I hope you get this message across . And you get the majority of Fishing people behind you and this disgraceful situation is reversed by the Fishing Orthorities . Laurie from down under tight lines.
Couldn't agree more on this one,the fenland rivers are in a dire shape regarding weed the Witham is totally unfishable and nothing is done about it.
You really moaning about weed do something yourself about that pml
Its been happening for years! I seen a stretch of river, with EA signs everywhere , pumping it in the river. The stretch have lovely carp pike bream, the river stinks
This has been a problem for years in the canals and nothing got done and now they are full of shopping trolleys and no fish my childhood was spent on the canals and docks and that's no longer worth taking my kids there
I don’t know enough about this subject to agree or disagree with this video, so I would be curious to hear from others on this issue? What do the anglers trust think/say on this as well? One or two people not paying their rod licence will not make a difference, so if the issue is this bad, then wha do you do to make a difference? The government are starving all agencies of funds, think, schools, hospitals, health and safety executives and police forces. Why would the environmental agency be any different. These organisations are all striking rightly or wrongly (not getting into that one). The country is a mess full stop! Great talking point though.
Brilliant video with great content. we don't have rod licences in Scotland, but we do pay seasonal permits for access to river beats. the money goes to the fishing club, which then helps to improve the river and the surrounding areas for water life and public access. I think rod licence fees go to the treasury and then on to the EA as a budgeted amount, both of which take their cut. its all about the money in their pockets rather than the rivers.
Cannot disagree with any of your words, a petition is the right thing to do, and fight the jobsworth agency.
I had the same issue a few years ago I tried to report a seal in the river seven it was destroying the fish but after fifteen phone calls with telling me who to ring they said its OK don't need to do anything
@@ssergorp7105 yes I understand that but why did it take so many phone calls to tell somebody an issue thanks for your reply though
The Rod license is nothing more than tax on a popular hobby. May as well have a golf club tax as well.
Agree 100%. The fishing in my local river has deteriorated tenfold in the last 10 years. I cant help but think the EA is hampered by this disgraceful governments decisions and funding. Like all our public services have been decimated under this administration.I am sure, like the police, like the nurses like our teachers the EA employees want to do a good job but have their hands tied.
Something is to be done before it's to late as we can all see it's starting already and them who don't have a fishing licence need to be caught as I've always had one but you see people fishing and getting away with no fishing licence and dumping rubbish leaving there bait's and bits of line all over we all need to put a stop to it all thank you for reading this
The area I live in kent has one of the worst polluting water company’s in the country. It also covers Sussex and Hampshire.
They have polluted rivers and the sea on hundreds of occasions by discharging sewage in them. Southern water are owned by a Canadian teachers
pension fund so as long
as they pay big dividend they are not bothered. I believe these company’s are more liable than the environment agency because of their unlimited wealth. Im not a lover of nationalising things but maybe water is a case worth considering.
I am pretty sure Southern Water have been owned by Mcquarrie (spelling?) for the past 2 years. They are an Australian investment group who previously owned Thames Water. Yes, those nice people who repeatedly pumped raw sewage into the Kennet and Thames tributaries, killing millions of fish. They then were thrown out of Thames and grabbed Southern instead.
They are only interested in profit.
The National Lottery is the one ultimately owned by the Canadian teachers retirement fund.
Completely agree with you, as for EA, Perhaps it's time for them to stand up and be counted showing us if they are sincere or not about what they say ,are there policies .
With a government which allows the discharge of raw sewage into our rivers and coastal areas, we are fighting a losing battle.
There are a number of organisations that highlight this problem, but still nothing changes. As individuals, we can do nothing but together we might just change things
100% all the way with your points brought up in this topic we've had a problem with with barges on the canals in North Yorkshire videos taken killing fish, what happened to the people who owned the barge jackshit, total discrace😡😡😡
The EA are not fit for purpose and haven't been for years we are seeing the same problems with pollution, flooding and the like year in year out, if every angler refused to pay the licence fee it would be a huge statement whether it's doable tho is debatable.
Here where I live they started dumping s sewage in the river already and it's not just the river or will affect what about the impact on the sea's round the UK
total agreement as i have said several times ,there are over 3 million anglers in this country ,we must stand as one with one very loud voice
It's disgusting our local canal in Derbyshire has had a lot of issues this year and I've not seen nowhere near as many fish as I did last year 🤔🤔🥺
Yes mate I’m backing you 1.000 present
100% in agreement. Boycott the rod licence and see what the EA does about it. Probably nothing as they'd blame lack of funds.
Well said,all so there needs to be a new policy where only organic farming can be done within in a 1 mile zone of a river,this would help chemical run of and cow dung and this is also a massive polluter as with chicken waste.
Also boat waste oil diesel and so on.
Bring in a boat mot more frequently to stop spillages . And so on
I love the can of worms you opened
Blessings
We keep getting it pumped into our river in Buckinghamshire tampons and all sorts of shit it’s getting bad now somthing needs to change and quick
Name one ministry that does it's job, ministry of transport, the roads are a mess, ministry of health what's left of it, ministry of the environment 🙄 ministry of education, ministry of justice, ministry of defence, it's a joke, they are all getting paid for doing nothing 🤔🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
My local canal has no fish left
Its already like that on the wensum and getting like that on the broads. You catch so many sanitary towls and there's always a brown sediment floating through the water. Disgusting. But the norfolk conservative mp voted and allowed Anglian wate a uncapped sewage discharge amount per annum 😢
They’ve always had the backing of the government. The EA were told years ago not to do anything when the farmers pumped their waste into the rivers and streams.
Every angler should join angling trust they are fighting exactly what u are talking about £30 for the year the more members they have the more they can fight they have already won some big battles and won so our trust in angling and protecting it is in the angling trust not the ea the ea just serves our waterways not fishing
The Angling Trust Enforcement work is funded by fishing licence income and delivered in partnership with the Environment Agency. Operation Traverse was set up by the Angling Trust in 2014
Massive fish kill on the broads which ea were told b4 to close the sea gates and they just ignored it and one boat yard removed a ton (in weight)then week later they were in same area checking license
I was about to go back to flyfishing after a long time not doing so (accident) I am horrified to hear what the water companies are doing. Sounds like the EA are a bit useless? Think I'll keep my rod license money and flyfish in the sea !!!! Grrrrr
That's a fair dig, esp when ya talk about "other anglers". I walk the Wharfe around Knotford Nook, and some of the mess left by so called fisher folk is appalling, esp when some boys travel down from the north east to fish there. Nope, i'm not blaming it ALL on geordies, but i've seen the mess first hand. Mostly cans ( not pop )and sandwich wrappers. Oh, and the odd barbeque tray !
How does refusing to pay the rod licence help? The EA is underfunded which has led to less staff and less resources. The problem used to be industrial pollution which is no longer a problem. The latest issue is semi raw sewage because water companies are privatised and turn the valve to empty the tanks because it's cheaper than dealing with the sewage. It is all about the money and there is none. The Yorkshire river systems are in fact largely recovered from industrial pollution so since 2009 salmon actually run up the Ouse and Hull and well up into the dales and moors. It's not as bad as some are making out, but any improvement will cost a LOT of money and investment. Not paying for rod licences won't help. At all. It's a careless and ill considered answer that won't address the issue.
I have just moved to the east riding, please supply the salmon catch returns for the River Hull if you have access to them.
@@Ukmongoose3 Haha. My mistake I mean't Humber.
@@stevewilliams5428 Hi Steve! I thought so…. But no real reason why the fish shouldn’t run up there as its a chalk stream and the southern chalkies get runs of salmon. There are fish passes on the locks too.
I agree 100 percent what you're saying but I don't see what you can do about it, rod licences generate a vast amount of money, most of which the EA don't even see, it goes straight to government so I can't see them letting anyone else take control, is the EA really the problem or is it lack of funding from the the government 🤔
Well said fella, I thought I started EA #NOTFITFORPURPOSE a couple of years ago, glad it's gaining momentum, no matter who started it, it is a very dire situation, luckily the public are waking upto it, as for the Angling Trust their chairman sir charles walker voted to dump raw untreated sewerage into our aquatic environment, so they are not much better, and funded by the EA, we need an organisation by anglers, for anglers and with anglers
You keep saying this...."the Angling Trust their chairman sir charles walker voted to dump raw untreated sewerage into our aquatic environment,"... But it's not true, he voted FOR the bill that proposes a reduction in sewage release into our waters.
@@stevewilliams5428 did he?, stepped down pretty damn quick when Angling times exposed him though didn't he, how ever you want to " dress it up with political side stepping and usual bs double speak!!"
@@bobchamberlain4823 check his voting record, it's easy enough to do....he voted FOR the bill to tackle sewage release into our waters. You need a bigger tin hat.
@@stevewilliams5428 tin hat, this is bloody war mate, no political spin bullshit, no half measures its either " yes to dumping sewerage " or " no" he voted yes end of, just like the rest of the tossers
Agreed and population has a huge impact on the environment theres more people in Yorkshire than the whole of Ireland, New Zealand , Norway , Denmark… etc
Good on ya mate I don’t see them doing anything .Time for the world to change for the better .
While I agree with your points (I live in Yorkshire, Yorkshire Water are one of the worst offenders for sewage pollution) I personally cannot afford a fine or to lose my gear so I begrudgingly pay my license fee. I am also a member of the Angling Trust/Fish Legal. I would rather my license money went to AT/FL than the EA but the system is the way it is. If enough of us shout loud enough we can make our voices heard with the backing of the AT. Keep up the fight mate.
Who are the people at the top of the environment agency, these are the ones who need looking at bank records , assets ect they are as corrupt as politicians
I'm not a fisherman as such I only used to sea fish ( not for the last God knows how long ago ) but I do understand pumping any foreign bodies in any river will do damage not just to that one river but coastal waters and any other tidal river close by .
Hi mate I'm in total agreement I have fished for 60 years and have never known it as bad
they think there job is to catch fisherman without a licence
but me speak no english?!
I honestly see them dumping toxic water at least once a week in my local river and I mean it is foaming and smoking sometimes
Totally agree 100%. So is there a plan going forward? This is so weird because i have literally just got in from a blank on the river wondering why. Im not going to mention names at this stage but i bumped into a guy who's land backs onto said river. He told me today he believes its all down to a chicken farm down the road which there crap is getting into the water course and then the river. Mate im in if there is going to be a debate on this. If you need contact details im sure we can work something out 👍
One of the biggest problems is the water company's are making hundreds of thousands if not millions so if they get fines of a few thousand or even a million it's cheaper for them also the government are policing them self's if it was happening to the private game rivers it would be a totally different story
I totally agree but could not afford to replace my gear let alone pay a fine. The EA are not fit for purpose and it’s been like that for years. And Matt Haynes is absolutely spot on in his post