I've now owned a CK88 for nearly a year as a gigging instrument, and been very impressed with every aspect of its performance. The piano sounds are very easily developed to suit any preference and have great stage presence. The EPs are wide ranging, the bubble Rhodes being a particular favourite. The ability to create huge varieties of stage sets so all aspects of the sound are ready with one touch is great for quick changes. Having played many Nords in the past, the CK88 is a serious contender as a stage piano at any price. It really is a very unique package all coming in at 12kg. I find the GHS action very useable and certainly very good for a stage piano at this price point, but the overall package of the piano is amazing value
Thanks for tuning in and sharing your experiences with the CK88! It is a very solid instrument for the money - that is for sure. The combination of features, portability, and a solid core piano experience make it a very compelling option.
I've played the CK88 and, compared to other weighted 88's in its price range that I've played, I think he action is excellent and buttery smooth. With all the included features, definitely a lot of bang for your buck in that board.
That was an excellent review! All the important info was mentioned: usability, edibility; strengths and weaknesses. Excellent and great presenter also.
Informative and constructive as usual - thanks! Now it's time for a first review of a Nord instrument, e.g. the new Grand 2 or the Piano 5 or the Stage 4 - PLEASE ;)
Nord makes excellent instruments of course. We are always trying to tackle as many brands and models as possible, so I'm sure there are many Nord models on our production team's list that are being considered. :)
@@EdPin_ Nord is probably the best maker of all-purpose "stage pianos". But the prices and the weights of its models are both very heavy, and I think there's a market shift towards fewer controls, lighter materials and more portability.
This seems like a very well thought out board. I need to check it out. I spent some time recently with the Numa X GT and although I loved the action and piano sounds, the EPs seemed weak. This already seems to sound great for EPs. Plus, it has the decent organ models vs the Piano 5 I recently played. I just wish that more boards had aftertouch and had it routed to turn leslie on/off. The Montage M8 has poly aftertouch! But hard to justify price. Just caught Michael MacDonald at Pine Knob and he was rocking a Montage and it sounded fantastic.
I certainly understand where you're coming from. It can sometimes be tough to find a single instrument that offers every feature and instrument sound that require. With that said, the advent of VST plugins make it easier to achieve this goal given the plethora of amazing instrument sounds you can control with your piano via MIDI.
thanks dude for the video! I have the nord piano 5 and looking for something that I can use for these gigs I am starting to do. the options are just to use the nord piano 5 (40 lbs) or get something a little more lighter (this board) to use specifically for gigging!)
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in! We're glad you enjoyed Stu's review. I totally understand. There are many situations in which a smaller, lighter, and more portable instrument is desirable. Thankfully, models like the Roland RD08/RD88, Casio PXS3100/PXS6000, and Yamaha CK88 are on the market to fill the void. :)
Thanks! We're glad you enjoyed it. While I don't think there are plans to tackle a solo DGX670 review given that we have covered it in a comparative video, I will be happy to pass along the feedback to our production crew. :)
Good review. Spot on analysis that the instrument is best when used as part of a group. For live performances I love the fantastic UI with quickly accessible changes/adjustments. Can stream tracks via Bluetooth and the AA-Battery capability has also come in handy more than once. Built in speakers are good enough for convenient home practice. I have both the ck88 and ck61 and love being able learn one user interface and then choose based on gig type. Sometimes I use the 30lb ck88 when needing more piano but other times the 12lb ck61 with organ and synth sounds fit the bill. Overall I find these to have excellent UI, above average sampled sounds and below average price - making them a unique and excellent value. Market seems to agree as I am seeing more of these showing up at live music gigs these days.
Thanks! We appreciate that. For sure! The combination of portability and a feature rich instrument is quite attractive to many gigging musicians. We're happy to hear that you've been enjoying what the Yamaha CK models have to offer.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thank you for tuning in! We're glad you enjoyed Stu's review. And thank you for the suggestion! I'll pass it off to our production team. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle that model. :)
I guarantee you if famous musicians played the CK 88 everyone will gravitate to it. What I notice is people gravitate to what the popular musicians are playing on. Every piano can sound good it depends on the players and the chords they choose to play. If you're someone who is limited on chords and playing 3 finger chords, then yes, the piano is going to sound terrible, but that goes for a $5,000 Nord stage 4 or the new Montage if you're not playing the right chords every piano will sound bad to you. I've heard some people make the most expensive pianos sound horrible because of their lack of chord vocabulary. I've also heard a great musician make a $400 keyboard sound like a $5,000 keyboard. I want to help the music community so I'm being honest most of the time it's not the piano it's the player. I bought 15 keyboards trying to find the perfect sound, there is no perfect sound you have to get better at chording and watch any piano you play will sound amazing.
Absolutely! Tone is in the fingers as they say! A great musician can work with any instrument and make it sound incredible and musical. I do agree that endorsements from pro players can have a lot of sway and influence on other musicians. I think its important for people to formulate their own opinions though and make choices based on what resonates with them personally.
Good review and playing (as always) Stu. I’ve spent time with the CK88. Yamaha has really solved the user workflow that stage players need. Very simplified to layer, add effects, and even master midi controls. They nailed it. However, the not so great sound set, mediocre keybed on both models, & terrible rotary effect made it a NO for me. I realize at this price point they had to compromise something. If Yamaha were to blend this amazing, simple workflow with the sound set and power of their YC line with a set of aux outputs, it would be the one we want. I’m sure it won’t be cheap but would definitely be worth it.
Thank you for taking the time to tune in! We appreciate it. And I know Stu appreciates the kind words and compliments. I can certainly understand where you're coming from. Different players will have different needs and demands of course. At the end of the day, the most important thing is to find an instrument that suits your particular tastes and needs. :)
What do you mean not so great soundest. Jeeze ur a picky one. The sound set is very good especially the pianos and electric pianos and the organs are decent so I have no idea what your talkin bout except that it seems nothing will ever satisfy you.
I would say, for the price, the CK 88 sounds awesome. For cheaper, I got a RD 88 and I’m still finding sound combinations, it’s lighter and has a better action and 2k more sounds. I think the CK vs the RD would be a great comparison.
This was very useful information for me when deciding whether to buy the CK61 or the CK88. The CK61 is a winner for me because I have a master keyboard with a very good hammer keyboard. Thank you very much for the great review. 👍
Thanks for your questions! I'll be happy to pass the suggestion of comparing the CK88 and CP88 models along to our production team for you. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle that for you. :)
Tested one of these in the store in Vienna - very intuitive to use, nice feel of knobs, good sounding filters when twaeking on the fly some of the pads. I wish they have aftertouch, or I didn't notice? Effects section pretty elaborate and plenty to choose from choruses to flangers. The tones which were not my type by default, I spent one minute to adjust the filters, ADSR and effects to my liking. And the keyboard felt piano like - not too heavy like some fatars. Of course it's not the Kurzweil K2700 my daily beast - but it was not a problem to treat the stage piano like a synth - tweaking with knobs, envelope and effects to adjust the tone to my preferences.
For sure! It is a well thought off piano that would serve well as a musical companion for the gigging musician. I don't believe it has aftertouch. Aftertouch seems to a be a feature that is a little less common these days for whatever reason. Thanks so much for tuning in and sharing your insights! :)
@@MerriamPianos How about polyphonyc aftertouch - the Ashun Hydrasynth has it - one takes a chord and presess random notes of that chord to create inner melody. I wish my 2700 had this. I need to have Hydrasynth some day. But for sure aftertouch is not a piano and pianistic thing - it harms palm if used too much. I also tested Bechstein family in Vienna today - thinking of Hoffmann 206 which is my favorite within the middle price point between Zimm. and Academy or Concert Bechs. Regards! :)
Thank you for the review, honestly i tried this out at guitar center. It really isn’t as bad as people say it is. It runs off batteries. What more can you ask for on a board that does that? I am considering the ck61 to tether to my kawai. I am extremely picky on action, it feels springy, but its more than playable and you wont have key sensor issues. Great review
Thanks so much! We appreciate you taking the time to tune in and share your thoughts. Being picky about action is never a bad thing given that it is the invariable component of a digital piano design. :)
@@MerriamPianos everyone else talks about the action and how springy it is, i dont mind it personaly but everyone has a diff taste. No matter what keyboard you buy you gain features or lose some, it all depends on what you want it to do
Thanks for another interesting review. Stu is very good at categorising dps, but I think he has missed an important emerging issue here. For a long time the term "stage piano" has been a contradiction, because straight piano patches are seldom used on a big stage, and also because portable pianos are streadily replacing "stage pianos" in offstage and small stage applications. And now, Yamaha has astutely labelled the CK-88 a "stage keyboard". Perhaps Yamaha is the first to coin the phrase, but I hope it will persist, since this is a much more meaningful expression. Accordingly, Yamaha has tweaked the CK-88 for stage use (especially organs and electric pianos) and the onboard piano patches are really a secondary thing. This is reflected by the GHS plastic action - more geared to portability and cost effectiveness than to extracting the best out of piano patches. I believe in horses for courses, and with this product Yamaha is spot on. Those who complain that the CK-88 isn't the best digital piano are missing the point in Yamaha calling it a stage keyboard. There are many portable dps with more pianistic actions, and perhaps (as some viewers indicate) with better piano patches too, though not having tested them myself, I cannot criticise.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in and sharing your thoughts. I do agree that the term "stage piano" has been obscured a bit in recent years due to their being a lot of crossover features between all-in portable digital pianos and stage piano models. For instance, models like the Yamaha CK88 and Roland RD08/RD88 have built-in speakers, which was seldom a feature of true stage pianos. In fact, this was often one of the primary factors in categorization. To that point, it is a bit tougher to categorize models now. But, I definitely agree with your sentiments regarding keeping the intended use and audience in mind when passing judgement on a piano. This model is far from the most expensive option on the market, so to expect a perfect playing experience and complete versatility from it is simply unrealistic.
@@MerriamPianosThanks. I have just remembered two important portable aspects of the CK88. It weighs kess than 14kg and it can operate from batteries. And as Merriam has mentioned, it is also quite inexpensive. What other full-blown stage piano/stage keyboard offers this level of portability? I guess the Casio PX5s did, though it didn't have speakers, and the past is the past.
Hi, I hesitate between 3 piano, the Yamaha clp 735 (because apparently they have the same key touch with the 745), the Kawai CA 701 or the Casio AP 750? For me the most important aspect is a heavy touch who feel as close as an acoustic piano but I can’t try them (there is no piano store near me) thanks you for your time😁
Hi there! If you're prioritizing the touch and looking for as authentic of a playing experience as possible, my personal recommendation would be the Kawai CA701. The Grand Feel III action is excellent. It is grand piano length, all-wooden key stick action. It is impressively authentic feeling! :)
This keyboard has my favourite user interface of any stage keyboard. Pair it with a better keybed, more piano patches and lose the speakers and it'd be a no brainer for me.
I don't think Stu is making any determination as to what the best stage piano of 2024 is. It is a question being asked; a question that every piano player will have to answer for themselves of course.
An unrelated question for anyone who can ancer. Just asking for a friend can the Yamaha DGX670 be used on stage spite it only having headphone jacks? Thanks in advance🦊🎹🎶
I use a Roland RD 88 for live gigs. I have had a DGX, it’s heavier than the Roland and does not have the 1/4 outs. I would not do it. A Roland EP 50 or FP 30 are around the same price and have stereo outs along with a Casio PX 3500.
@@oljones31 however it is possible right? They're a lot more comfortable using the DGX. This is for just when they have to do it, and they already have a DGX670🎹🎶
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 if they already have it, then of course by any means. I have giged with DGX 530 before. I had a the 660. To me the 660 was too heavy for me to take to and from gigs. But if you have no choice, then bring an amp and have fun.
0:13 since you mentioned the Nord Piano 5, is it keyboard good or great? It is a Fatar, so I'd think it is somewhat generic, but surprisingly, a lady who has two grand pianos would use the Nord Piano 5 when she does streaming: th-cam.com/users/liveJsuk-DNtvK8?t=12232 and another lady who plays the piano quite well switch from the Yamaha MODX series to a Nord Piano 5: th-cam.com/video/MWK4rBSsYUw/w-d-xo.html she can listen to the song once, and then play it by reading the music sheet. I considered a Nord Grand but the side profile is not so good looking (like a big box)
It all comes down to subjectivity of course. What one player considers to be the "perfect" piano playing experience may be completely different from the next player.
Beautiful sounds and beautiful playing....but Yamaha: you lost me at "sluggish ".... i am still playing my hopelessly outdated Kurzweil from the 90s because its keyboard is great.... every time i try a new Yamaha roland or (horrors!) Nord.... i quickly and unceremoniously leave the premises due to extreme and unnecessary sluggishness!
Thanks for tuning in! I know Stu appreciates your kind words regarding his playing. That is certainly fair feedback. A heavy, stiff action is not for everyone of course. While some players enjoy that type of feel, other players gravitate towards something with a quicker response and slightly lighter feel. I tend to fall into that category myself. :)
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I am just reading through the literature on the FANTOM-0 series instruments and drawbar control of the Virtual Tonewheel Organ is possible based on my understanding.
You can control the drawbars from the touchscreen or the eight sliders. The 9th slider is only controllable from the touchscreen (unlike full fantom which has nine sliders) but it's not a big deal. If percussion is on, the 9th drawbar has no effect anyway, just like a real Hammond. Fantom 06 owner.
I actually returned Yamaha YC61 to get CK61. The price difference between these two great keyboards was too big and the advantages of YC61 over CK61 could not justify it. I also have Yamaha P-45 that I use to control CK61 if I need a hammer action for piano. Michael Ps. I had RD-88 in the past and also Hammond XK-4
The ES920 and FP90X are both excellent pianos of course, but they are not classified as stage pianos. They are all-in portable digital pianos. Of course, they have a full feature offering, which makes them excellent tools for stage performance situations. With that said, the question of "what is the best stage piano" is one that every player will have to answer for themselves of course.
Every player will have their personal preference of course. Thankfully, there are a lot of options on the market to choose between, which makes it possible for most players to a find a piano touch they connect with. :)
Hi! Brent here! Tone and touch preferences are very subjective and personal of course. Personally, I tend to agree with you. In this price category, I favour the Kawai and Roland actions myself.
It sounds bad, just not good enough for a keyboard in 2024. Do not waste your money, Pass this one buy, it sounds terrible. I have played one in the store myself. Just substandard quality samples. Even if you gave me one free, the only reason I would take it is to use it as a controller keyboard, or just a practice keyboard. None of the sounds on this keyboards are great. OK ish, but certainly not worth spending this kind of money.. Avoid, please avoid.
Thanks for tuning in and writing in with your thoughts! That is certainly fair. Instrument preferences are a very subjective matter of course. It is also important to note that, at this price point, there are inevitably some concessions that need to be made. The most important thing is to find an instrument that inspires you musically. Thankfully, there are a lot of exciting options on the market these days! :)
I had mine for a month and sold it. I’m getting and RD-2000 EX. I wanted to like it but just didn’t. I’ve always been a Roland guy. I love Yamaha, just not this one.
We all have different tastes and are entitled to form own opinions. The sounds are bland at face value but once you play with the effects and filters the keyboard transforms into a power house. I’m also partial to Yamaha vs Roland so I may also be slight biased, but I play this board every Sunday and own multiple keyboards that cost double and I prefer the CK88. My 2 cents and wish they had a 73 key version. Great video. Cheers!
@@stayconsistentandhumble8463 the action was my problem with it. I didn’t care for it. It was just too heavy for me. I play stride, convention styles and the action was just too slow and heavy. I’ve always liked a lighter action. I guess coming from the RD-1000 anything will be heavier. Not dissing the keyboard, it just wasn’t good for the application I was putting it in.
Don’t listen to this comment this board the truth I’ve had all boards I still have a Nord Electro, Yamaha CP73, Korg Krome, Roland Rd88, Casio pxs 3100… It depends on the way you play, if you have a lot of chords and progressions any piano can sound amazing your hands have to be full first to make the piano full
it's ALWAYS worth watching just for the incredibly good jazz piano playing here ;)
I know Stu appreciates the kind words! Thank you for tuning in! :)
I've now owned a CK88 for nearly a year as a gigging instrument, and been very impressed with every aspect of its performance. The piano sounds are very easily developed to suit any preference and have great stage presence. The EPs are wide ranging, the bubble Rhodes being a particular favourite. The ability to create huge varieties of stage sets so all aspects of the sound are ready with one touch is great for quick changes. Having played many Nords in the past, the CK88 is a serious contender as a stage piano at any price. It really is a very unique package all coming in at 12kg.
I find the GHS action very useable and certainly very good for a stage piano at this price point, but the overall package of the piano is amazing value
Thanks for tuning in and sharing your experiences with the CK88! It is a very solid instrument for the money - that is for sure. The combination of features, portability, and a solid core piano experience make it a very compelling option.
@@MerriamPianos - thanks for the detailed reviews on your channel, they are always excellent and very helpful
I said this several times now. For blind or visually impaired users physical buttons/controls are the best option🎹🎶
For sure! Thankfully, there are still some models that still use physical buttons and controls on their control interfaces.
I've played the CK88 and, compared to other weighted 88's in its price range that I've played, I think he action is excellent and buttery smooth. With all the included features, definitely a lot of bang for your buck in that board.
For sure! It is tough to argue the excellent cost-to-value ratio the CK88 presents. :)
That was an excellent review! All the important info was mentioned: usability, edibility; strengths and weaknesses. Excellent and great presenter also.
Thank you so much! We're glad you enjoyed the video and found it useful. Thanks for your kind words! :)
Kawai MP11SE and Viscount Legend Soul 273 in the studio and this little value gem (or a YC88) for gigging.
Very nice! That is quite the arsenal of instruments. :)
ive been stalking this keyboard since it came out and just waiting to buy it for music honors society and band at my high school, super useful video!
Thank you! We're glad you enjoyed the video. It is a solid little stage piano. :)
Stu is the man!!
Stu is awesome! We're lucky to have his talents! :)
Informative and constructive as usual - thanks!
Now it's time for a first review of a Nord instrument, e.g. the new Grand 2 or the Piano 5 or the Stage 4 - PLEASE ;)
Thank you so much! And thank you for the suggestion! I will be happy to pass it along to our production team on your behalf. :)
Nord mentioned!
Yes, Nord please.
What else can act as a reference point in the comparisons for the professionals?
There are thousands of reviews of the nords. The advantage of this channel is precisely to seek out innovative and underrated models.
I don't think they are a seller. So it's unlikely. It's the reason they won't review Kurzweil
Nord makes excellent instruments of course. We are always trying to tackle as many brands and models as possible, so I'm sure there are many Nord models on our production team's list that are being considered. :)
@@E.Bernay I want to know what Stu has to say, I want a classical angle on the top shelf pro synths.
@@EdPin_ Nord is probably the best maker of all-purpose "stage pianos". But the prices and the weights of its models are both very heavy, and I think there's a market shift towards fewer controls, lighter materials and more portability.
This seems like a very well thought out board. I need to check it out. I spent some time recently with the Numa X GT and although I loved the action and piano sounds, the EPs seemed weak. This already seems to sound great for EPs. Plus, it has the decent organ models vs the Piano 5 I recently played. I just wish that more boards had aftertouch and had it routed to turn leslie on/off. The Montage M8 has poly aftertouch! But hard to justify price. Just caught Michael MacDonald at Pine Knob and he was rocking a Montage and it sounded fantastic.
I certainly understand where you're coming from. It can sometimes be tough to find a single instrument that offers every feature and instrument sound that require. With that said, the advent of VST plugins make it easier to achieve this goal given the plethora of amazing instrument sounds you can control with your piano via MIDI.
Have you done the latest firmware update on the Numa GT??? They did updated the electric pianos. Sound so much better.
thanks dude for the video! I have the nord piano 5 and looking for something that I can use for these gigs I am starting to do. the options are just to use the nord piano 5 (40 lbs) or get something a little more lighter (this board) to use specifically for gigging!)
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in! We're glad you enjoyed Stu's review. I totally understand. There are many situations in which a smaller, lighter, and more portable instrument is desirable. Thankfully, models like the Roland RD08/RD88, Casio PXS3100/PXS6000, and Yamaha CK88 are on the market to fill the void. :)
Uh ok, great explanations and then unexpected bonus, he's a killer player
Thank you for tuning in! We're glad you enjoyed Stu's review and demo. :)
Ótimo vídeo. É bom ver Yamaha solo aqui. Acho que o dgx 670 merece um vídeo exclusivo :)
Thanks! We're glad you enjoyed it. While I don't think there are plans to tackle a solo DGX670 review given that we have covered it in a comparative video, I will be happy to pass along the feedback to our production crew. :)
Stu can you do one on the cp88? Or a comparison!
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for the suggestion! I will pass it along to our production team for you. :)
Good review. Spot on analysis that the instrument is best when used as part of a group. For live performances I love the fantastic UI with quickly accessible changes/adjustments. Can stream tracks via Bluetooth and the AA-Battery capability has also come in handy more than once. Built in speakers are good enough for convenient home practice. I have both the ck88 and ck61 and love being able learn one user interface and then choose based on gig type. Sometimes I use the 30lb ck88 when needing more piano but other times the 12lb ck61 with organ and synth sounds fit the bill. Overall I find these to have excellent UI, above average sampled sounds and below average price - making them a unique and excellent value. Market seems to agree as I am seeing more of these showing up at live music gigs these days.
Thanks! We appreciate that. For sure! The combination of portability and a feature rich instrument is quite attractive to many gigging musicians. We're happy to hear that you've been enjoying what the Yamaha CK models have to offer.
Great demo wow Stu!
Would love to see the Yamaha Montage M review.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thank you for tuning in! We're glad you enjoyed Stu's review. And thank you for the suggestion! I'll pass it off to our production team. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle that model. :)
I guarantee you if famous musicians played the CK 88 everyone will gravitate to it. What I notice is people gravitate to what the popular musicians are playing on. Every piano can sound good it depends on the players and the chords they choose to play. If you're someone who is limited on chords and playing 3 finger chords, then yes, the piano is going to sound terrible, but that goes for a $5,000 Nord stage 4 or the new Montage if you're not playing the right chords every piano will sound bad to you. I've heard some people make the most expensive pianos sound horrible because of their lack of chord vocabulary. I've also heard a great musician make a $400 keyboard sound like a $5,000 keyboard. I want to help the music community so I'm being honest most of the time it's not the piano it's the player. I bought 15 keyboards trying to find the perfect sound, there is no perfect sound you have to get better at chording and watch any piano you play will sound amazing.
Absolutely! Tone is in the fingers as they say! A great musician can work with any instrument and make it sound incredible and musical. I do agree that endorsements from pro players can have a lot of sway and influence on other musicians. I think its important for people to formulate their own opinions though and make choices based on what resonates with them personally.
Good review and playing (as always) Stu.
I’ve spent time with the CK88. Yamaha has really solved the user workflow that stage players need. Very simplified to layer, add effects, and even master midi controls. They nailed it.
However, the not so great sound set, mediocre keybed on both models, & terrible rotary effect made it a NO for me. I realize at this price point they had to compromise something.
If Yamaha were to blend this amazing, simple workflow with the sound set and power of their YC line with a set of aux outputs, it would be the one we want. I’m sure it won’t be cheap but would definitely be worth it.
Thank you for taking the time to tune in! We appreciate it. And I know Stu appreciates the kind words and compliments. I can certainly understand where you're coming from. Different players will have different needs and demands of course. At the end of the day, the most important thing is to find an instrument that suits your particular tastes and needs. :)
What do you mean not so great soundest. Jeeze ur a picky one. The sound set is very good especially the pianos and electric pianos and the organs are decent so I have no idea what your talkin bout except that it seems nothing will ever satisfy you.
I would say, for the price, the CK 88 sounds awesome. For cheaper, I got a RD 88 and I’m still finding sound combinations, it’s lighter and has a better action and 2k more sounds. I think the CK vs the RD would be a great comparison.
Thanks for the comprehensive review and smooth playing! Could you do a comparison: CK88 vs RD88?
You're very welcome! Thanks for tuning in! And thank you for the suggestion. I'll be sure to pass it along to our production team on your behalf. :)
This was very useful information for me when deciding whether to buy the CK61 or the CK88. The CK61 is a winner for me because I have a master keyboard with a very good hammer keyboard. Thank you very much for the great review. 👍
You're very welcome! We appreciate you tuning in. We're happy to hear that this review helped you through your decision making process. :)
How's the keys action compared to the CP88?
In addition to this, is there any noticeable difference in the piano sound quality? I’ve never seen a review of both side by side.
Thanks for your questions! I'll be happy to pass the suggestion of comparing the CK88 and CP88 models along to our production team for you. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle that for you. :)
@@MerriamPianos Yes please! Would love that
@@MerriamPianos That would be great!
Cp88 action is a lot better for pianists.
Tested one of these in the store in Vienna - very intuitive to use, nice feel of knobs, good sounding filters when twaeking on the fly some of the pads. I wish they have aftertouch, or I didn't notice? Effects section pretty elaborate and plenty to choose from choruses to flangers. The tones which were not my type by default, I spent one minute to adjust the filters, ADSR and effects to my liking. And the keyboard felt piano like - not too heavy like some fatars. Of course it's not the Kurzweil K2700 my daily beast - but it was not a problem to treat the stage piano like a synth - tweaking with knobs, envelope and effects to adjust the tone to my preferences.
For sure! It is a well thought off piano that would serve well as a musical companion for the gigging musician. I don't believe it has aftertouch. Aftertouch seems to a be a feature that is a little less common these days for whatever reason. Thanks so much for tuning in and sharing your insights! :)
@@MerriamPianos How about polyphonyc aftertouch - the Ashun Hydrasynth has it - one takes a chord and presess random notes of that chord to create inner melody. I wish my 2700 had this. I need to have Hydrasynth some day. But for sure aftertouch is not a piano and pianistic thing - it harms palm if used too much. I also tested Bechstein family in Vienna today - thinking of Hoffmann 206 which is my favorite within the middle price point between Zimm. and Academy or Concert Bechs. Regards! :)
Thank you for the review, honestly i tried this out at guitar center. It really isn’t as bad as people say it is. It runs off batteries. What more can you ask for on a board that does that? I am considering the ck61 to tether to my kawai. I am extremely picky on action, it feels springy, but its more than playable and you wont have key sensor issues.
Great review
Thanks so much! We appreciate you taking the time to tune in and share your thoughts. Being picky about action is never a bad thing given that it is the invariable component of a digital piano design. :)
@@MerriamPianos everyone else talks about the action and how springy it is, i dont mind it personaly but everyone has a diff taste. No matter what keyboard you buy you gain features or lose some, it all depends on what you want it to do
Finally!
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Thanks for another interesting review. Stu is very good at categorising dps, but I think he has missed an important emerging issue here. For a long time the term "stage piano" has been a contradiction, because straight piano patches are seldom used on a big stage, and also because portable pianos are streadily replacing "stage pianos" in offstage and small stage applications.
And now, Yamaha has astutely labelled the CK-88 a "stage keyboard". Perhaps Yamaha is the first to coin the phrase, but I hope it will persist, since this is a much more meaningful expression. Accordingly, Yamaha has tweaked the CK-88 for stage use (especially organs and electric pianos) and the onboard piano patches are really a secondary thing. This is reflected by the GHS plastic action - more geared to portability and cost effectiveness than to extracting the best out of piano patches. I believe in horses for courses, and with this product Yamaha is spot on.
Those who complain that the CK-88 isn't the best digital piano are missing the point in Yamaha calling it a stage keyboard. There are many portable dps with more pianistic actions, and perhaps (as some viewers indicate) with better piano patches too, though not having tested them myself, I cannot criticise.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in and sharing your thoughts. I do agree that the term "stage piano" has been obscured a bit in recent years due to their being a lot of crossover features between all-in portable digital pianos and stage piano models. For instance, models like the Yamaha CK88 and Roland RD08/RD88 have built-in speakers, which was seldom a feature of true stage pianos. In fact, this was often one of the primary factors in categorization. To that point, it is a bit tougher to categorize models now. But, I definitely agree with your sentiments regarding keeping the intended use and audience in mind when passing judgement on a piano. This model is far from the most expensive option on the market, so to expect a perfect playing experience and complete versatility from it is simply unrealistic.
@@MerriamPianosThanks. I have just remembered two important portable aspects of the CK88. It weighs kess than 14kg and it can operate from batteries. And as Merriam has mentioned, it is also quite inexpensive. What other full-blown stage piano/stage keyboard offers this level of portability? I guess the Casio PX5s did, though it didn't have speakers, and the past is the past.
Hi, I hesitate between 3 piano, the Yamaha clp 735 (because apparently they have the same key touch with the 745), the Kawai CA 701 or the Casio AP 750?
For me the most important aspect is a heavy touch who feel as close as an acoustic piano but I can’t try them (there is no piano store near me) thanks you for your time😁
Hi there! If you're prioritizing the touch and looking for as authentic of a playing experience as possible, my personal recommendation would be the Kawai CA701. The Grand Feel III action is excellent. It is grand piano length, all-wooden key stick action. It is impressively authentic feeling! :)
@@MerriamPianos thanks you for your fast answer, have a wonderful day😁
This keyboard has my favourite user interface of any stage keyboard. Pair it with a better keybed, more piano patches and lose the speakers and it'd be a no brainer for me.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and insights! The CK88 certainly has an excellent user interface. Perhaps, we will see it implemented on more models.
The Name of the Game- Without any doubt STU IS the MAN ,when he puts his hands on a piano….well here we go…just Great.
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you said the same thing about the roland!
I don't think Stu is making any determination as to what the best stage piano of 2024 is. It is a question being asked; a question that every piano player will have to answer for themselves of course.
RD88 vs CK88？
Thanks for the suggestion! I will pass it on to our production team. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle that for you. :)
Great question. I’m waiting for this comparision
An unrelated question for anyone who can ancer. Just asking for a friend can the Yamaha DGX670 be used on stage spite it only having headphone jacks? Thanks in advance🦊🎹🎶
Yup! You can use the headphone jacks on the DGX670 to run it through an amp or external speakers. :)
I use a Roland RD 88 for live gigs. I have had a DGX, it’s heavier than the Roland and does not have the 1/4 outs. I would not do it. A Roland EP 50 or FP 30 are around the same price and have stereo outs along with a Casio PX 3500.
@@oljones31 however it is possible right? They're a lot more comfortable using the DGX. This is for just when they have to do it, and they already have a DGX670🎹🎶
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 if they already have it, then of course by any means. I have giged with DGX 530 before. I had a the 660. To me the 660 was too heavy for me to take to and from gigs. But if you have no choice, then bring an amp and have fun.
0:13 since you mentioned the Nord Piano 5, is it keyboard good or great? It is a Fatar, so I'd think it is somewhat generic, but surprisingly, a lady who has two grand pianos would use the Nord Piano 5 when she does streaming: th-cam.com/users/liveJsuk-DNtvK8?t=12232 and another lady who plays the piano quite well switch from the Yamaha MODX series to a Nord Piano 5: th-cam.com/video/MWK4rBSsYUw/w-d-xo.html she can listen to the song once, and then play it by reading the music sheet. I considered a Nord Grand but the side profile is not so good looking (like a big box)
It all comes down to subjectivity of course. What one player considers to be the "perfect" piano playing experience may be completely different from the next player.
Yamaha needs to change their whole Designing team... 😂
It all comes down to subjectivity of course. Instrument and design preferences are very personal things of course.
@@MerriamPianos Very diplomatic as always 😂 but also right.
Doesn't change the fact that, that thing is ugly as hell 😂
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Beautiful sounds and beautiful playing....but Yamaha: you lost me at "sluggish ".... i am still playing my hopelessly outdated Kurzweil from the 90s because its keyboard is great.... every time i try a new Yamaha roland or (horrors!) Nord.... i quickly and unceremoniously leave the premises due to extreme and unnecessary sluggishness!
Thanks for tuning in! I know Stu appreciates your kind words regarding his playing. That is certainly fair feedback. A heavy, stiff action is not for everyone of course. While some players enjoy that type of feel, other players gravitate towards something with a quicker response and slightly lighter feel. I tend to fall into that category myself. :)
Error #1: The Fantom 0 series supports drawbar style control of the Tonewheel Organ, just like its big brother, the Fantom EX.
UPDATE: Video of this feature demonstrated:
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I am just reading through the literature on the FANTOM-0 series instruments and drawbar control of the Virtual Tonewheel Organ is possible based on my understanding.
You can control the drawbars from the touchscreen or the eight sliders. The 9th slider is only controllable from the touchscreen (unlike full fantom which has nine sliders) but it's not a big deal. If percussion is on, the 9th drawbar has no effect anyway, just like a real Hammond. Fantom 06 owner.
I actually returned Yamaha YC61 to get CK61. The price difference between these two great keyboards was too big and the advantages of YC61 over CK61 could not justify it.
I also have Yamaha P-45 that I use to control CK61 if I need a hammer action for piano.
Michael
Ps. I had RD-88 in the past and also Hammond XK-4
That is certainly fair! The CK series instruments offer excellent cost-to-value ratios. That is for sure! Thanks for tuning in and happy playing!
What is talking about best stage piano ? No stu. Stop. Love my es920 ,and my Roland fp90x .
The ES920 and FP90X are both excellent pianos of course, but they are not classified as stage pianos. They are all-in portable digital pianos. Of course, they have a full feature offering, which makes them excellent tools for stage performance situations. With that said, the question of "what is the best stage piano" is one that every player will have to answer for themselves of course.
Yes I agree action definitely is personle. I personally prefer this over the PHA4due to in my opinion beter touch responce, and quicker key return🎹🎶
Every player will have their personal preference of course. Thankfully, there are a lot of options on the market to choose between, which makes it possible for most players to a find a piano touch they connect with. :)
GHS is probably one of the worst actors of anything under $1500.
Hi! Brent here! Tone and touch preferences are very subjective and personal of course. Personally, I tend to agree with you. In this price category, I favour the Kawai and Roland actions myself.
It sounds bad, just not good enough for a keyboard in 2024. Do not waste your money, Pass this one buy, it sounds terrible. I have played one in the store myself. Just substandard quality samples. Even if you gave me one free, the only reason I would take it is to use it as a controller keyboard, or just a practice keyboard. None of the sounds on this keyboards are great. OK ish, but certainly not worth spending this kind of money.. Avoid, please avoid.
Thanks for tuning in and writing in with your thoughts! That is certainly fair. Instrument preferences are a very subjective matter of course. It is also important to note that, at this price point, there are inevitably some concessions that need to be made. The most important thing is to find an instrument that inspires you musically. Thankfully, there are a lot of exciting options on the market these days! :)
I had mine for a month and sold it. I’m getting and RD-2000 EX. I wanted to like it but just didn’t. I’ve always been a Roland guy. I love Yamaha, just not this one.
We all have different tastes and are entitled to form own opinions. The sounds are bland at face value but once you play with the effects and filters the keyboard transforms into a power house. I’m also partial to Yamaha vs Roland so I may also be slight biased, but I play this board every Sunday and own multiple keyboards that cost double and I prefer the CK88. My 2 cents and wish they had a 73 key version. Great video. Cheers!
@@stayconsistentandhumble8463 the action was my problem with it. I didn’t care for it. It was just too heavy for me. I play stride, convention styles and the action was just too slow and heavy. I’ve always liked a lighter action. I guess coming from the RD-1000 anything will be heavier. Not dissing the keyboard, it just wasn’t good for the application I was putting it in.
Don’t listen to this comment this board the truth I’ve had all boards I still have a Nord Electro, Yamaha CP73, Korg Krome, Roland Rd88, Casio pxs 3100… It depends on the way you play, if you have a lot of chords and progressions any piano can sound amazing your hands have to be full first to make the piano full
Sounds awful!!!
Tonal preference is a subjective matter of course. Not everyone will resonate with the tonal profile of this model.
Horrendous sounding acoustic pianos 🤮
care to elaborate?
@@converse5874 What's to elaborate? They sound terrible.
What device are you listening threw? Also note pianos both acoustic and digital will sound different if you listen to them in youtube and in person🎹🎶
It is a matter of personal preference of course. Not everyone will resonate with a particular piano tone.