WHY are we STILL DROP STEPPING? - AMERICAN wrestling

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  • Wrestling evolves.
    We're taught from the start to DROP STEP but we lose so much momentum.
    We're trying to RUN at the guy.
    Listen to what Jake has to say about how we typically learn this
    & what we can do to improve it.
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ความคิดเห็น • 39

  • @kdthek9720
    @kdthek9720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I’m that bjj guy you literally just described. I found this video looking for knee drop advice. It’s awkward for me and I’m tall. This is a really great solution. I’m gonna stop focusing on my drop and start drilling this more and my chain wrestling from there. THANKS!!

    • @IroncladWrestling
      @IroncladWrestling  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Glad this helped so much! When you're ready for a little more check out the wrestling for jiu jitsu course we created for this exact purpose ➡️ www.IroncladMethods.com ⬅️
      There's infinite details we could share but the contents of that course will carry you SO FAR in your bjj journey from your feet

    • @Phoenix-dq2uo
      @Phoenix-dq2uo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ditto on this end too. embarrasingly awkward shot and very little confidence, or commitment in my drop step. I've been working arm drags, duck unders, etc as an alternative but this is a way to go after those legs and vary my game a little!

    • @bigsarge1982
      @bigsarge1982 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Drop step is a great too for short agile grapplers.. for those of us who are large, whether in height or size, it's usually better to just outside step in my experiences.

    • @Pifagorass
      @Pifagorass 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Drop knee works, but needs to be very good at it. Id keep practicing it 😅

  • @argfasdfgadfgasdfgsdfgsdfg6351
    @argfasdfgadfgasdfgsdfgsdfg6351 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The drop step is utilized when the opponent has his center of gravity really low. If he is standing straight, of course you don't need a drop step.

    • @attila2946
      @attila2946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But it looks cool and that's why im practising it hehe. Did my first double leg last week. It was not picture perfect, but I was happy with it.

  • @axlek7620
    @axlek7620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Absolutely agree with your conceptual analysis.

  • @StillRolling
    @StillRolling 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey watched you in the PGF🤙Nice wrestling. I started as an ex wrestler turned bjj and this is so true. Snatch and sweep single have always been my bread and butter. Worked out good for bjj to avoid guillotines as well. If it fails, them digging a whizzer is way better than sprawled on your head.
    Good luck in your future endeavors 👊

  • @jenifermills1696
    @jenifermills1696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love this..I'm short and always going against larger and stronger men. I find that in my jiu jitsu when I go for the knee drop I am over committed and getting myself out of position. I can't wait to give this a try as I look to develop a more aggressive game. Thanks!

    • @IroncladWrestling
      @IroncladWrestling  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out our Wrestling for jiu jitsu course on www.IroncladMethods.com
      It's a life saver for just $29!

  • @dukenukem8253
    @dukenukem8253 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank God! I'm a middle aged dude that just started BJJ. I was thinking I needed to spend hours in my basement working on the drop step before I could try a leg takedown. I'll still try to learn it, but this looks much more efficient (and less likely to blow out one of my knees).

  • @mikelyons5039
    @mikelyons5039 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great for heavy weights, guys that don't move so well and young guys. We call it "SNAG SINGLE"
    Great late in the match to stall without looking like you're stalling!

  • @syndicat4847
    @syndicat4847 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another good technique to add to your side step is to use your hands to lift your opponent’s elbow on the side you intend to step towards ie lift their right arm at the elbow as you side step in to your left side. It allows you the time to get perpendicular with your opponent so you can then drop your hips and go for either a single or double.

  • @rodiermadiande249
    @rodiermadiande249 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pure gem, thank you. I think, the problem is that bjj school still teaching those awkward move.

  • @akesie
    @akesie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Big up Jake and Ironclad, all the way from Bristol, UK. Just bought your wrestling for BJJ and came here for more. Loving your approach and presentation. Can't wait to get back on the mats and implement this game. Salute!

  • @itsmetibbs
    @itsmetibbs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This concept is changing the game for our team!

  • @PouyaSthlm
    @PouyaSthlm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good video, Ive done bjj for 17years, started 2006, back in 2008 I started wrestling as a complement to it. After knee injuries I havent been willing to drop to a knee when shooting and I adapted my game to a higher type of leg picking, you can't take everyone down as efficient but you save alot of risk of beeing sprawled down.

  • @diabolic42090
    @diabolic42090 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love the conceptual talk

  • @opaca512
    @opaca512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great way to present this. HUA 👏

  • @syndicat4847
    @syndicat4847 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can also injure your knee/meniscus from the impact of landing with all that force.

  • @profesionalninjivar7425
    @profesionalninjivar7425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow you spoke me mind. Superior video

  • @scal7122
    @scal7122 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow this video is so underrated

  • @paulzenchuk7807
    @paulzenchuk7807 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice!!!!!

  • @davethetalentlessguru759
    @davethetalentlessguru759 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coach from Arkansas here. Would you say that this particular move, regardless of the side you do this to, benefits taller wrestlers even more so because they don't have to drop down as far and just drive with their head up?

  • @rollinOnCode
    @rollinOnCode 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do bjj and i am a bit bigger like over 200lbs. and i worry a TON for my knees and also losing position when i drop the knee to the mat when i step in for the shot. this is much better and safer alternative. thanks!

  • @matthewredmond616
    @matthewredmond616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good thoughts. I like how you're teaching wrestlers to not get caught underneath their opponent. We don't need to teach the same way we've always done it.
    Only way it could be better is if both of you were chewing gum. Just kidding about that. It's a pet peeve of mine with my wrestlers in practice. No gum!

    • @IroncladWrestling
      @IroncladWrestling  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right on! Coach Ricky is a gum chewing machine. Hope this serves you guys well. Let us know if we can ever help y'all with anything

  • @davidpignatore6532
    @davidpignatore6532 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've always loved the ankle/knee pick, in wrestling and bjj. Not cause of the drop step. It's low risk if you don't get it, can transition into the next takedown instantly, can be done standing and land in a great position. Btw, most descent wrestlers can shoot without the knee ever touching, which is great for self defense. Just takes time and practice

    • @iamshredder3587
      @iamshredder3587 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that's last bit it's the kind of theory my coach taught me when i was starting, regarding the drop stepping and all the real low stances and positioning, getting your legs conditioned and used to it and all that.
      Cause me like alot of was coming at it from like an mma perspective or just wanted to learn and train to fight better, defend ourselves and loved ones and all. Not necessarily beva chamopion competition wrestler or whatnot.
      Anyway he'd often show us the wrestling moves modified or applied to the streets or real life violent situations awatly from the mats... like that like doing your leg takedowns and such without going to your knees (on hard gravel or whatever) but explaining rightfully I think how if you learn and train it the right way in the gym that doing it that sd way is going to be a breeze fir you and you'll be very efficient and effective at it.
      Whereas if you dont learn the right way first it's going to be a big struggle to try to do either way, and probably wont work in a real violent situation.
      I still think he was and have seen it happen and, I still don't LIKE knee dropping but glad I learnt it right and can if I have to, but usually don't have to, cause I can. :)

    • @davidpignatore6532
      @davidpignatore6532 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@iamshredder3587 def important to learn the right way first. Like all techniques, once you know how and why it works, you can make it your own, skip steps, change things etc.

    • @iamshredder3587
      @iamshredder3587 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @davidpignatore6532 Right on brother. Facts. Indeed that's an important lesson for getting good at learning and picking up new skills no matter what the subject really.
      (And when you're really good at learning and picking up skills quickly and efficiently, then you'll kinda kick lifes ass, all the way, no problem at all ! 😁👊
      Well.... least it might help you not get your ass kicked quite as badly by life along the way haha. )
      But seriously yeah trying to get too good and flashy quick so you can show off to the girls or whatever is rarely a good idea.
      That said I'm sure glad I started learning it and wrestling in general when I was still a pimply teenager as I think its about hardest on your body of any of the combat systems and sports I've trained in.
      Boxing, muay thai, mma (wing chun for abit , yeah don't laugh :) and judo since i was 6 and think wrestling would easily be the toughest to try learn now.
      Anyway good luck buddy stay safe out there

    • @davidpignatore6532
      @davidpignatore6532 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @iamshredder3587 same. So glad I wrestled, all styles. Def hard on the body, gotta start young and train all yr. I wouldn't laugh about wing chun. I think you can learn something from everything, even Aikido lol. I trained in kenpo karate, Korean hwa rang do, muay thai, judo and bjj. Bjj busted up my body pretty good but I was beat up before getting started, from everything else, and, I trained and competed constantly.

  • @artemisgruis1528
    @artemisgruis1528 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah the good old snatch singles efficient simple to the point low risk and high percentage.

  • @vw5233
    @vw5233 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:18

  • @salvajeasp757
    @salvajeasp757 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the BJJ shade 🤣 they deserve it