Idk why but my brain just inherently loves stuff like this. Reminds me of the ASRock Desk Minis I used to build for a bit. They were basically a custom baby Ryzen motherboard in a little box lol. People absolutely loved them and I was able to get them really cheap before they took off in popularity.
@@RandomGaminginHD absolutely, there's just something so intriguing about more power in less space. Planning on redoing my ITX build here soon to make it basically as small as I can! Lol.
@@RandomGaminginHD Why not get a gaming laptop then? I mean its literally a mini PC and cheaper than one with similar performance. Prop it up on a stand and hook up all the wires you want on it.
@@Caius1930 It genuinely seems almost useless. Almost any use case for it can be accomplished by a cheaper gaming laptop, which by the way, can act as a laptop and ultra compact desktop
Are you joking? No seriously, have you forgotten gaming laptops exist that are smaller than this and more powerful? You know, like the 6900hx + 3080 blade 14, which you know, being a laptop also has pretty good battery life.
@@siyzerix the blade 14 3080ti is a 85w GPU. You would be paying $3600 for something that gets absolutely obliterated by a clevo 15 inch at leas than half the price
Always amazed at the power they can fit into small packages these days, it does make you wonder what the future of PC gaming will look like! Great video as always 🙏🏼
@@munnumkhalid I honestly thought this the other day, maybe I need to get out of building computers before it’s too late! Nobody wants to be a blockbuster!
@@andystech101 I don't know I wasted 1200£ last year building a pc. Only to see my friends same games streeming. So yeah kinda frustrated I believe with in next few year or more Pc and consoles will be almost absolute.
This would be an amazing VR rig if you wanted something like that. Like, if I weren't going to use my old laptop for VR/NAS purposes, I'd actually seriously considering buying this.
@@KhainesKorner I mean if you WERE to buy the intel nuc in the video, a laptop would be a better option, since it'll cost similar and have better specs + far more use cases + plus the use cases of this intel nuc.
@@siyzerix When I looked it up to buy it, the base model with the i7-11800H and an RTX 3070 is approx £880. You'd be hard pressed to find a similar spec gaming laptop for that price, and the only reason I know that is because I just got my wife a new one with an 8 core ryzen and an RTX 3060... and that was £600 (and that was a CHEAP refurb too!)
@@KhainesKorner I'm pretty sure with ram and ssd added it'll go to 1100 euros, at which point you can get a predator helios with a 3070 and i7 11800h for 1200 euros. And its gonna be even more compact. And I mean you can compare the 3060 variant with a i5 and it'd cost similar to a 3060 laptop at 900 pounds, some of which can drop to 800 even.
Got mine just like that from Hong Kong the other day. Ripped up my old gaming laptop and a desktop to fill it up with a 1TB NVME and 32 gigs of RAM. It was unstable during the first day (not starting up nor restarting properly). But it has become more stable on day two (I wonder if the algorhythms of the neural network are kicking in). I like it. I was using my gaming laptop as a work center since the pandemic started. I thought it would only be temporary. It ended up being my main work station from home (rather than the desktop I have upstairs that I built between last and this year). I was using an external monitor and keyboard anyway with my gaming laptop since early 2020, so I figured I would get something along these lines and make it official. Ever since the start of the pandemic, I have been moving toward the mini PC. The desktop is big and bulky. This NUC takes little space, is quiet and powerful. Desktops are not needed like they were back in the day. I have been building and rebuilding desktops since the mid 90's. The last desktop I built in 2021-2022 may be the last one I ever build. I get a pangue of nostalgia when I realize a PC era (desktop) may be coming to an end.
People in the comments are complaining that this doesn't have the screen and battery and keyboard that laptops have, but seem to forget that all of those add extra heat that this won't. That's a plus in my book. When are you going to be gaming on a laptop and not have it plugged in? Do you enjoy playing games at minimal setting for half an hour on the battery? If you wanna play on a 40" monitor, when are you ever using the laptop screen that's half the size? To check email that you can and will do on your phone instead? Do you have a Smart TV? Are you upgrading from an older PC? Then you have a monitor. Would you hook up a full keyboard and mouse to a laptop? Then you'd have to have those either way. You probably already do. I have a feeling that if you compared this mini PC and a laptop with the same specs over the long term, this mini PC would last longer. It doesn't have to carry the weight, heat or power for a monitor. It doesn't have to be blocked or heated up by the thick brick of a battery. It's better ventilated (because it's never on your lap, for one, and standing upright for another). And if you wanna upgrade or need to switch out the SSDs or ram, it's all of what, three screws to get the case off and plug and play the new bits in? I think the laptop lovers in the comments are underestimating this. Maybe they feel threatened, I dunno. I had a gaming laptop awhile back. Heat is always the biggest factor in how long they're gonna last you.
This thing starts at $900. The specs are there, the performance is there. If you need something that's easy enough to move but don't want a laptop, and I know someone who is in exactly that use case, this looks like a good option.
11800H + 3070 Mobile, what a crazy good combo in such a SFF design. I'd like to get a NUC-style or equivalent PC for our living room, so that we could stream/game/binge content and it would fit behind the TV and be totally discrete
@@siyzerix this thing IS a laptop lol, just without the display panel. But I get your point, and tbh I agree, I just thought this thing was decent for the specs. I'd never pay what they're asking for it though. I spent way less on my desktop, and it has a R5 5600 & 3060 Ti. I actually do use my current laptop (albeit with much worse specs than this NUC or my gaming rig) with my TV to play some lighter games or stream them from the desktop when it can't handle it on the native hardware
@@couriersix2443 How much did your whole desktop cost? The thing that pisses me off, is it costs more than a damn laptop does, with worse specs. The barebones alone is nearly the cost of a laptop with a i7 12700h and 3070. Its basically worthless and useless.
@@siyzerix I've spent around $650-700 all things considered. About 75% new, 25% used parts. Most of the new stuff was on discount and some of the used stuff was just open box. I paid $340 for the GPU, which was new/open box also but from someone via my local used market about 2 months ago when prices basically crashed. It's a Zotac twin edge oc LHR model but I don't mine crypto so it doesn't matter much to me. Plus iirc the "low hash rate" is just an arbitrary limitation that can be undone (gotta love hackers lol) but I personally haven't attempted to bypass it so idk
why is chasis so big? looking at open, could easily be 20-30% (~ guess) smaller? I guess they used some pcb meant for laptops and empty space is for battery?
I checked the site out, out of curiosity, and while it's obviously priced like a premium product, the price is surprisingly decent even for the top available spec. Well played, Minisforum. Well played.
love the look of this, but they could have utilized the space inside far better. this could have used more I/O or maybe used the extra space for bays for SSDs, or made the chassis slimmer.
Idk I would need to see the 3070 kitted out version for 900$ in order to see value. I bought an omen 17 rtx 3070 brand new last October for 1200. With a laptop you are getting a screen, keyboard, mouse, and speakers. Not to mention the same amount of portability.
I actually really like this... As long as the price is lower, because you got rid of battery, keyboard, trackpad, speakers, screen, webcam, microphones etc. Honestly, It's a very enticing product. I kind of wish they had an AMD version since they have insanely high energy efficiency with RDNA2 and Ryzen. (and even better with the upcoming RDNA3) Nvidia & Intel can't really compete in that department today.
@@siyzerix So you're telling me you can find a laptop for this price with these specs? That isn't even logically possible, how would the company make any money? Put your money where your mouth is and find me a laptop that will be the same price as this one. Laptops aren't just computer parts and a case, they also have trackpads which cost money, keyboards which cost money. If someone already has a monitor, keyboard and mouse its just a waste to buy an entire laptop. I don't even understand why you would need something this powerful for a laptop anyway, chromebook is completely fine because who actually games while they are out with a laptop?
@@siyzerix I can stream my game from this gaming mini pc to my chromebook with an extention called moonlight, it works perfectly most of the time and because its a chromebook I can do it for 5 hours straight with out worrying about battery life. This much performance for a laptop is honestly absurd.
@@CodyCLI And you can do the same with a gaming laptop too, right? You do realize the ryzen models, like the $850 bravo 15 with 7735HS and 100w rtx 4060 can do 6-7hr battery life, right? On top of that, if you want to game on the go like on a train, sleeper bus, hometown, college dorm, etc. a gaming laptop will be FAR better suited to it. More than even the steam deck. Especially when you use DLSS and FG together. A chromebook is a not that cheap simple laptop. For saving like $200 to $300 you give up a better keyboard, upgradability, cooling, longevity, etc. Not to mention getting something MUCH weaker and less versatile. How? The chrome book cannot act as a gaming desktop. The gaming laptop can.
@@siyzerix I like to do a lot of AI upscaling and that works the best with Nvidia. I do like the Ryzen processors but compatability is spotty with AI. I live in Canada so the MSI Bravo while nice, is $1,884.99 Canadian, This mini PC is $1,449.00, I already have a monitor, mouse and keyboard. I also bought a Chromebook from someone in my building for a $100 its actually really quick with only a Pentium mobile processor, which was originally worth $400 when released. I mostly only use it to search things or watch videos. What I personally think laptops should be for. I just personally don't like the concept of gaming laptops. I think I mentioned moonlight which is a browser extention that allows you to locally stream from a computer instead of paying for a streaming service. It works very well, and I'm picky with latency. The 6 hour claim would depend on what you're doing with that laptop too. Also yeah the Steam Deck is not nearly as powerful as this laptop, but it is way more practical because the controller is built right into the device.
@@_Mattz1nho i just googled it and apparently g sync doesnt work over hdmi 2.0 i think it does over 2.1 but this would need to have and so would your monitor
@@LCJammer It only works with 2.1, so you'll need a true HDMI 2.1 monitor, and a true HDMI 2.1 certified cable. Those monitors are super rare and expensive, and the HDMI cable bs is just retarded. All they needed to do is include a goddamn DP port.
I’m personally buying one as I’m most probably going to be moving out for grad school and I want sth that I can enjoy in the new city while saving on space. The performance is more than what I need and should keep me happy for a couple of years easily!
I would love to turn a macbook pro that suffered from heat limitations into a desktop and with a better cooler and see how much performance is left on the table
Considering that a 5700g setup on a thin itx board is annoying to build, a similar size and $700 minimum, I don't think the price premium for this is actually that outrageous. I would definitely consider this if I still freelanced and needed a portable workstation.
@@tyre1337 In MSI Afterburner -> Settings -> Monitoring there are two options, Power percent and Power, pick the second one and check "show in on-screen display"
@n nfor my system the cpu power draw does seem accurate at least. I get 6 Watts idle because my cpu throttles down to 0.8ghz. 10-15 Watts Web browsing, 30-40w typical gaming load and 70w at full utilisation which is within intels spec for basic Haswell chips. Nowadays it's impossible to know because the modern stuff will boost and pull a ridiculous amount of power.
That motherboard looks very similar to the Clevo/Tongfang ODM motherboards, especially the heat sink design, the location of the m.2, chipset, wifi, and memory slots. You can still see the battery and keyboard connectors. Pretty clever design, and having vents on the side means very fresh air for the cooling system
Yep this is what i been telling people in the comments of the multiple reviews of this robbery I bet 100% its left over tongfang boards they had too much stock of
Great looking device but I consider it to be a little lacking in the Display out ports. I mean they could've put a DP on it. Not everyone owns a HDMI 2.1 capable display or displays that have USB display inputs.
That's a clean looking machine. I imagine if you plugged in cables to all those ports it would be a different story. Can it still stand upright with all those cables attached?
The just released Humble 2K Megahits Game Bundle (Includes Mafia: Definitive Edition) for $16 U.S is great if you are new to pc gaming and are on a budget. I already owned about half the games but the price and games still made it a steal.
Just recently got this unit, loving it so far! Is it safe to leave this in high performance always or should i switch to balanced when not gaming? I know it's essentially the windows power profiles, but just curious.
What ever happened to all your Part 1 continuation videos? Eg. The OG Xbox to PC or Mac to PC conversion videos? Leaving us hanging for several years 😂
Nice to see a review... I have been contemplating side grading to one from my current mini pc and eGPU setup... Mostly to stop using the eGPU and go back to Linux (had too many headaches getting that working how I wanted) and reducing the desk space usage would be a great added bonus. My main like for mini pcs is energy usage being quite a bit lower than the pc was.
this Mafia remake fell short on so many things..... that physics fail at 4:50 is a brilliant example.... or that pedestrian hit a few seconds before that... nice review though :) looks like an interesting little box
Mentioned using this next to a tv with steam big picture mode, this is something I think a lot of people overlook because it’s ideal for that kind of gaming, all the benefit of PC games mods add ons and graphical settings with all the comfort of console gaming big screen controller and a sofa Optional: throw a 4k projector in and do a custom resolution of 1440p@120 hdr on, with dlss fsr2 you won’t look back, even this nuc would be better than any console
@@RandomGaminginHD it really is, any 4k projector that can do 1080@120 should do custom resolution 1440@120 with hdr and a good 80 plus projector screen, games like shadow of the tomb raider or faster pace games like doom eternal or destiny 2 just doesn’t look the same again, if you want competitive always go traditional monitor setup but chilled relaxing gaming there’s nothing like it well except for a 4k@120 projector but those are pricey but a poor man’s setup could be done for about £2k easily and you get a 4k home theatre movie setup too minus the speakers but I have a hack for that too But systems like the one you showed today can go a long way to helping out with setups like these
Gpu wasnt drawing more than 120w and the cpu will only run at 45w with gpu under load, so worst case scenario 165w, though in games the cpu will be closer to 35w.
I really would like this but importing to the UK looks like it could get expensive. Any advice on this? I want it for emulation really and with that lower power consumption and rising energy bills it looks very nice. Add the portability that it has and it’s exactly what I’ve been looking for.
Doing something custom with something you aren’t supposed to mess with is always cool. For example, DIY Perks does a lot of custom stuff and one of the many cool things he’s done is his ultra slim PS5
both setups are good for playing at 1080p mid-high setting and provide a 2-4 year performance guarantee for the latest games, I assume video editing to be a consideration besides the gaming aspect, they can do smooth playback and render quickly 1:1 duration with heavy editing lots of effects, grading, layering with 1080p output, but RTX will be faster because of the CUDA engine, and for 4k editing the rtx 3070 is an absolute winner in terms of rendering speed and smooth playback from light to medium editing, the rx6600m also can do it with ryzen 9 brings better multicore performance due to experience while editing but its not quite pleasing with rendering time, a good standard rendering time is at least 1:1 with the duration of the video, assuming premiere pro as main software not davinci, but if you see the hx90g price is very tempting, I personally will wait for the intel 13th version
It's a nice device but a bit expensive if you ask me at 1200$, considering a laptop with a 3070 costs about the same and has a screen, battery, keyboard, touchpad and you can use it anywhere. At 1000$ it would look a lot more appealing.
I bought a dell optiplex 3040 micro yesterday and it's like half the size of this, has only IGPU and sips only few watts power. So perfect for all day use
Nice pc, doesn't take up much space at your desk. Was a bit surprised that is wasn't any sata ssd, but great with dual nvme slots atleast. Building a home with laptop parts is a great idea, sounds like something the youtube DIYperks would have done.
i'd love one of these over a console but consoles are just so much more affordable and before you reply i know that this isnt supposed to be a console replacement
Pretty neat little machine. I'd imagine something like this behind a tv with a wireless keyboard & mouse or a powered usb hub on a long usb extension would make a great livingroom pc. Dual m.2 slots by the looks of the inside so plenty of storage there together with an external usb ssd or hdd. As for the display output being a hdmi & thunderbolt 4 is a bit odd though.
I started off PC gaming with a gtx 1080 back in 2013. My whole setup PC was probably around 800-ish. If I got something like THIS?! back in the day? I'd be happy.
Has anybody tried to flash a more power-hungry bios onto this thing yet? I've done that with a laptop 3060 and I know for a fact that people have used the same hack to increase power draw on laptop 3070s. Or is this one already at max spec?
it seems to me that cpus with Iris Xe always end up paired with a discrete gpu in these PCs so we rarely get to see the benefits of the Iris Xe igpus in reviews and benchmarks...
This is great. I do think they should add a battery to make it more portable mini PC that you can attach to mostly anything. Seems like there's space for more. Maybe they should make it thicker and put a higher limit on both CPU and GPU as long as there's a power brick to handle it. This is definitely what I would imagine for getting a laptop for desktop replacement.
Looks suspiciously like a PS5 that was flattened.
@@ThatRetroGuy2005 Are you hurt
@@zetsubou3704 lmao
@@zetsubou3704 idk why that got me as good as it did. Too early in the morning for me lol.
Lol
Bro i thoght that too!!
Idk why but my brain just inherently loves stuff like this.
Reminds me of the ASRock Desk Minis I used to build for a bit. They were basically a custom baby Ryzen motherboard in a little box lol. People absolutely loved them and I was able to get them really cheap before they took off in popularity.
Me too! I’m fascinated by mini PCs, even if they aren’t everyone’s cup of tea
@@RandomGaminginHD absolutely, there's just something so intriguing about more power in less space. Planning on redoing my ITX build here soon to make it basically as small as I can! Lol.
@@RandomGaminginHD Why not get a gaming laptop then? I mean its literally a mini PC and cheaper than one with similar performance.
Prop it up on a stand and hook up all the wires you want on it.
@@siyzerix exactly. This product is trash
@@Caius1930 It genuinely seems almost useless. Almost any use case for it can be accomplished by a cheaper gaming laptop, which by the way, can act as a laptop and ultra compact desktop
Now that's a whole Lot of power in such a small package
Ayo 😳
That's what she said
Nope its just a comon laptop with parts ripped out yet they are charging you the laptop price
Are you joking? No seriously, have you forgotten gaming laptops exist that are smaller than this and more powerful? You know, like the 6900hx + 3080 blade 14, which you know, being a laptop also has pretty good battery life.
@@siyzerix the blade 14 3080ti is a 85w GPU.
You would be paying $3600 for something that gets absolutely obliterated by a clevo 15 inch at leas than half the price
I love how in these reviews, he uses the pc for awhile, then he suddenly grabs it to bring it outside for a photoshoot 😂
Take it out for some fresh air 😂
@@RandomGaminginHD Does wonders for thermals, doesn’t it? 😂
Ahh yess, outdoor photoshoot has been a thing since years back, if not since forever 🤣
@@RandomGaminginHD How good does this run resolve?
Always amazed at the power they can fit into small packages these days, it does make you wonder what the future of PC gaming will look like! Great video as always 🙏🏼
i can't wait for the future when components won't produce heat anymore, no more noisy fans or dust
Yup it will be streaming on your TV.
@@munnumkhalid I honestly thought this the other day, maybe I need to get out of building computers before it’s too late! Nobody wants to be a blockbuster!
@@andystech101 I don't know I wasted 1200£ last year building a pc. Only to see my friends same games streeming. So yeah kinda frustrated I believe with in next few year or more Pc and consoles will be almost absolute.
You do understand all it is is a laptop without the keyboard and screen and they are charging you as if it did
This would be an amazing VR rig if you wanted something like that. Like, if I weren't going to use my old laptop for VR/NAS purposes, I'd actually seriously considering buying this.
You know, gaming laptops exist, right? And cost about the same with same or better specs.
@@siyzerix You mean like the one I said I was gonna use for VR/NAS purposes?
@@KhainesKorner I mean if you WERE to buy the intel nuc in the video, a laptop would be a better option, since it'll cost similar and have better specs + far more use cases + plus the use cases of this intel nuc.
@@siyzerix When I looked it up to buy it, the base model with the i7-11800H and an RTX 3070 is approx £880.
You'd be hard pressed to find a similar spec gaming laptop for that price, and the only reason I know that is because I just got my wife a new one with an 8 core ryzen and an RTX 3060... and that was £600 (and that was a CHEAP refurb too!)
@@KhainesKorner I'm pretty sure with ram and ssd added it'll go to 1100 euros, at which point you can get a predator helios with a 3070 and i7 11800h for 1200 euros. And its gonna be even more compact.
And I mean you can compare the 3060 variant with a i5 and it'd cost similar to a 3060 laptop at 900 pounds, some of which can drop to 800 even.
Got mine just like that from Hong Kong the other day. Ripped up my old gaming laptop and a desktop to fill it up with a 1TB NVME and 32 gigs of RAM. It was unstable during the first day (not starting up nor restarting properly). But it has become more stable on day two (I wonder if the algorhythms of the neural network are kicking in). I like it. I was using my gaming laptop as a work center since the pandemic started. I thought it would only be temporary. It ended up being my main work station from home (rather than the desktop I have upstairs that I built between last and this year). I was using an external monitor and keyboard anyway with my gaming laptop since early 2020, so I figured I would get something along these lines and make it official. Ever since the start of the pandemic, I have been moving toward the mini PC. The desktop is big and bulky. This NUC takes little space, is quiet and powerful. Desktops are not needed like they were back in the day. I have been building and rebuilding desktops since the mid 90's. The last desktop I built in 2021-2022 may be the last one I ever build. I get a pangue of nostalgia when I realize a PC era (desktop) may be coming to an end.
People in the comments are complaining that this doesn't have the screen and battery and keyboard that laptops have, but seem to forget that all of those add extra heat that this won't. That's a plus in my book.
When are you going to be gaming on a laptop and not have it plugged in? Do you enjoy playing games at minimal setting for half an hour on the battery?
If you wanna play on a 40" monitor, when are you ever using the laptop screen that's half the size? To check email that you can and will do on your phone instead?
Do you have a Smart TV? Are you upgrading from an older PC? Then you have a monitor. Would you hook up a full keyboard and mouse to a laptop? Then you'd have to have those either way. You probably already do.
I have a feeling that if you compared this mini PC and a laptop with the same specs over the long term, this mini PC would last longer. It doesn't have to carry the weight, heat or power for a monitor. It doesn't have to be blocked or heated up by the thick brick of a battery. It's better ventilated (because it's never on your lap, for one, and standing upright for another).
And if you wanna upgrade or need to switch out the SSDs or ram, it's all of what, three screws to get the case off and plug and play the new bits in?
I think the laptop lovers in the comments are underestimating this. Maybe they feel threatened, I dunno. I had a gaming laptop awhile back. Heat is always the biggest factor in how long they're gonna last you.
This thing starts at $900. The specs are there, the performance is there. If you need something that's easy enough to move but don't want a laptop, and I know someone who is in exactly that use case, this looks like a good option.
Or you could buy a laptop and put in a vertical stand.
@@TheAgentAssassin That won't fix the bs cooling of laptops though. This was built from the ground up to solve that problem.
@@TheAgentAssassin and make it overheat even more 😂 and it's too thick and needs to stay plug anyway loll
Shipping probably puts it at above what it'd cost to get a same spec laptop, and then you've got the same thing but it's also a laptop.
11800H + 3070 Mobile, what a crazy good combo in such a SFF design. I'd like to get a NUC-style or equivalent PC for our living room, so that we could stream/game/binge content and it would fit behind the TV and be totally discrete
Just buy a laptop at that point. Its literally gonna be likely cheaper.
@@siyzerix this thing IS a laptop lol, just without the display panel. But I get your point, and tbh I agree, I just thought this thing was decent for the specs. I'd never pay what they're asking for it though. I spent way less on my desktop, and it has a R5 5600 & 3060 Ti. I actually do use my current laptop (albeit with much worse specs than this NUC or my gaming rig) with my TV to play some lighter games or stream them from the desktop when it can't handle it on the native hardware
@@couriersix2443 How much did your whole desktop cost?
The thing that pisses me off, is it costs more than a damn laptop does, with worse specs. The barebones alone is nearly the cost of a laptop with a i7 12700h and 3070. Its basically worthless and useless.
@@siyzerix I've spent around $650-700 all things considered. About 75% new, 25% used parts. Most of the new stuff was on discount and some of the used stuff was just open box. I paid $340 for the GPU, which was new/open box also but from someone via my local used market about 2 months ago when prices basically crashed. It's a Zotac twin edge oc LHR model but I don't mine crypto so it doesn't matter much to me. Plus iirc the "low hash rate" is just an arbitrary limitation that can be undone (gotta love hackers lol) but I personally haven't attempted to bypass it so idk
@@couriersix2443 Nice deals there. Does that include monitor and stuff?
why is chasis so big? looking at open, could easily be 20-30% (~ guess) smaller? I guess they used some pcb meant for laptops and empty space is for battery?
I really love the form factor. I wouldn't mind it being a lil thicker for better cooling though.
I love this series of tests. Make more, please!
I checked the site out, out of curiosity, and while it's obviously priced like a premium product, the price is surprisingly decent even for the top available spec. Well played, Minisforum. Well played.
It is fairly priced overall. I would be concerned, however, with any customer support I may or may not receive in the event my product has issues
love the look of this, but they could have utilized the space inside far better. this could have used more I/O or maybe used the extra space for bays for SSDs, or made the chassis slimmer.
These NUCs are a fascinating prospect to use.
Great video, good job!👍
It would be perfect in a camper van, it's small, thin and lightweight but very expensive.
Can you maybe take it apart, so we can see the components inside?
i clicked the link for the pc and it didn't work it said site cant be reached, i had to search it on google instead
Best I’ve seen.
That thing is well built.
Impressive.
I like those Minisforum machines, they keep on building the stuff nerds want. Too bad i can't afford it atm.
Idk I would need to see the 3070 kitted out version for 900$ in order to see value. I bought an omen 17 rtx 3070 brand new last October for 1200. With a laptop you are getting a screen, keyboard, mouse, and speakers. Not to mention the same amount of portability.
Pressing that button was the loudest thing about this pc! xD nice vid again bro love this stuff!
I actually really like this... As long as the price is lower, because you got rid of battery, keyboard, trackpad, speakers, screen, webcam, microphones etc. Honestly, It's a very enticing product. I kind of wish they had an AMD version since they have insanely high energy efficiency with RDNA2 and Ryzen. (and even better with the upcoming RDNA3) Nvidia & Intel can't really compete in that department today.
Its literally worse than a laptop while at best costing as much as one if not more
@@siyzerix So you're telling me you can find a laptop for this price with these specs? That isn't even logically possible, how would the company make any money? Put your money where your mouth is and find me a laptop that will be the same price as this one. Laptops aren't just computer parts and a case, they also have trackpads which cost money, keyboards which cost money. If someone already has a monitor, keyboard and mouse its just a waste to buy an entire laptop. I don't even understand why you would need something this powerful for a laptop anyway, chromebook is completely fine because who actually games while they are out with a laptop?
@@siyzerix I can stream my game from this gaming mini pc to my chromebook with an extention called moonlight, it works perfectly most of the time and because its a chromebook I can do it for 5 hours straight with out worrying about battery life. This much performance for a laptop is honestly absurd.
@@CodyCLI And you can do the same with a gaming laptop too, right? You do realize the ryzen models, like the $850 bravo 15 with 7735HS and 100w rtx 4060 can do 6-7hr battery life, right?
On top of that, if you want to game on the go like on a train, sleeper bus, hometown, college dorm, etc. a gaming laptop will be FAR better suited to it. More than even the steam deck. Especially when you use DLSS and FG together.
A chromebook is a not that cheap simple laptop. For saving like $200 to $300 you give up a better keyboard, upgradability, cooling, longevity, etc. Not to mention getting something MUCH weaker and less versatile. How? The chrome book cannot act as a gaming desktop. The gaming laptop can.
@@siyzerix I like to do a lot of AI upscaling and that works the best with Nvidia. I do like the Ryzen processors but compatability is spotty with AI.
I live in Canada so the MSI Bravo while nice, is $1,884.99 Canadian, This mini PC is $1,449.00, I already have a monitor, mouse and keyboard. I also bought a Chromebook from someone in my building for a $100 its actually really quick with only a Pentium mobile processor, which was originally worth $400 when released. I mostly only use it to search things or watch videos. What I personally think laptops should be for. I just personally don't like the concept of gaming laptops.
I think I mentioned moonlight which is a browser extention that allows you to locally stream from a computer instead of paying for a streaming service. It works very well, and I'm picky with latency. The 6 hour claim would depend on what you're doing with that laptop too.
Also yeah the Steam Deck is not nearly as powerful as this laptop, but it is way more practical because the controller is built right into the device.
How do you not get more subs your content is always freaking awesome!
This PC looks great, something i also want in the future. 🙂
Why they didn't include displayport connection though? No G-Sync option this way, although it's a 3070 inside.. Seems like a waste.
Wait is this true? If so thats definitely a bummer
Gsync works with HDMI so what are you talking about?
gsync works with hdmi
@@_Mattz1nho i just googled it and apparently g sync doesnt work over hdmi 2.0 i think it does over 2.1 but this would need to have and so would your monitor
@@LCJammer It only works with 2.1, so you'll need a true HDMI 2.1 monitor, and a true HDMI 2.1 certified cable. Those monitors are super rare and expensive, and the HDMI cable bs is just retarded. All they needed to do is include a goddamn DP port.
I didn't really see an NVME slot there unless it was the small sized that looks like a WIFI board on the right which I think is called a 2230 nvme.
1:28 that bug crawling like his life depended on it
😂
Make a comparison between the original and the stripped Nvidia drivers, I'm curious to see if there is a difference
I like the concept, and form factor, but the price is not there yet.
Since it's got a Thunderbolt 4 port, you could add an eGPU to this.
I’m personally buying one as I’m most probably going to be moving out for grad school and I want sth that I can enjoy in the new city while saving on space. The performance is more than what I need and should keep me happy for a couple of years easily!
I would love to turn a macbook pro that suffered from heat limitations into a desktop and with a better cooler and see how much performance is left on the table
Considering that a 5700g setup on a thin itx board is annoying to build, a similar size and $700 minimum, I don't think the price premium for this is actually that outrageous. I would definitely consider this if I still freelanced and needed a portable workstation.
cool product, but i would prefer if it had no logo and was even more sleeker or sleeper looking
How many display monitors can I hook up to the NUCXi7?
Awesome, you added GPU power and clockspeed to RTSS :)
Yeah as per request. It’ll be staying :)
@@RandomGaminginHD how did you add gpu power in watts? mine is in percent
@@tyre1337 In MSI Afterburner -> Settings -> Monitoring there are two options, Power percent and Power, pick the second one and check "show in on-screen display"
@n n your cpu when it's idle will throttle down to like 6 watts. atleast mine does.
@n nfor my system the cpu power draw does seem accurate at least. I get 6 Watts idle because my cpu throttles down to 0.8ghz. 10-15 Watts Web browsing, 30-40w typical gaming load and 70w at full utilisation which is within intels spec for basic Haswell chips. Nowadays it's impossible to know because the modern stuff will boost and pull a ridiculous amount of power.
is it quieter than a gaming laptop? quite interesting this
That motherboard looks very similar to the Clevo/Tongfang ODM motherboards, especially the heat sink design, the location of the m.2, chipset, wifi, and memory slots. You can still see the battery and keyboard connectors. Pretty clever design, and having vents on the side means very fresh air for the cooling system
Yep this is what i been telling people in the comments of the multiple reviews of this robbery
I bet 100% its left over tongfang boards they had too much stock of
It's a laptop without a screen, and people are going crazy over this shit.
Great looking device but I consider it to be a little lacking in the Display out ports. I mean they could've put a DP on it. Not everyone owns a HDMI 2.1 capable display or displays that have USB display inputs.
when's the teardown coming out?
Could you leave the Fps on in afterburner so we could see what API the game being tested is on in future videos?
Ok :)
That's a clean looking machine.
I imagine if you plugged in cables to all those ports it would be a different story. Can it still stand upright with all those cables attached?
It looks like they lifted a motherboard straight out of some laptop, there's even enough room for a large battery inside the case!
Great review. Not available for purchase in the UK/Europe yet though :(
The just released Humble 2K Megahits Game Bundle (Includes Mafia: Definitive Edition) for $16 U.S is great if you are new to pc gaming and are on a budget. I already owned about half the games but the price and games still made it a steal.
0:45 Be interested to see what you could build for the same money as this desktop wise and how much better it would perform
Just recently got this unit, loving it so far!
Is it safe to leave this in high performance always or should i switch to balanced when not gaming?
I know it's essentially the windows power profiles, but just curious.
Hello ! After one years, how works your nuc ? Always fine ?
How is the fan noise ?
I think gonna buy it... 900€ in my country right now seem's good 😅
What ever happened to all your Part 1 continuation videos? Eg. The OG Xbox to PC or Mac to PC conversion videos? Leaving us hanging for several years 😂
Nice to see a review... I have been contemplating side grading to one from my current mini pc and eGPU setup... Mostly to stop using the eGPU and go back to Linux (had too many headaches getting that working how I wanted) and reducing the desk space usage would be a great added bonus.
My main like for mini pcs is energy usage being quite a bit lower than the pc was.
this Mafia remake fell short on so many things..... that physics fail at 4:50 is a brilliant example.... or that pedestrian hit a few seconds before that... nice review though :) looks like an interesting little box
Mentioned using this next to a tv with steam big picture mode, this is something I think a lot of people overlook because it’s ideal for that kind of gaming, all the benefit of PC games mods add ons and graphical settings with all the comfort of console gaming big screen controller and a sofa
Optional: throw a 4k projector in and do a custom resolution of 1440p@120 hdr on, with dlss fsr2 you won’t look back, even this nuc would be better than any console
That would be awesome
@@RandomGaminginHD it really is, any 4k projector that can do 1080@120 should do custom resolution 1440@120 with hdr and a good 80 plus projector screen, games like shadow of the tomb raider or faster pace games like doom eternal or destiny 2 just doesn’t look the same again, if you want competitive always go traditional monitor setup but chilled relaxing gaming there’s nothing like it well except for a 4k@120 projector but those are pricey but a poor man’s setup could be done for about £2k easily and you get a 4k home theatre movie setup too minus the speakers but I have a hack for that too
But systems like the one you showed today can go a long way to helping out with setups like these
It costs almost as much as a laptop with better specs. And 2x more than a ps5 (going by msrp). But a laptop will wipe the floor with it.
I wish the Steam Machine never failed, since it’s like you mentioned: it’s something you can plop anywhere with a screen and have it not be tacky.
small form factor pcs aren't really that uncommon and steamos also had a comeback, so you can easily build your own 😁
nooo why did u change the info card's color
i'm too used to the blue and purple ones
I installed photoshop fresh on the PC so didn’t get the colour quite right 😂
@@RandomGaminginHD are you ever going to review the steam deck
@@RandomGaminginHD fair enough. best thing about your channel is that you never change, and that's awesome
"General computer related things" has to be the most low key plug for the hub I've ever heard 😂
Not too insanely priced with the barebones kit and 3060. This isn't for me but it's certainly impress what they pack into such a small form factor.
Would have been nice to know how much power it was drawing from the wall in real usage settings.
Gpu wasnt drawing more than 120w and the cpu will only run at 45w with gpu under load, so worst case scenario 165w, though in games the cpu will be closer to 35w.
Love these vids man you are the goat
Thanks man :)
I really would like this but importing to the UK looks like it could get expensive. Any advice on this?
I want it for emulation really and with that lower power consumption and rising energy bills it looks very nice. Add the portability that it has and it’s exactly what I’ve been looking for.
What is the program you're using to show all of these system stats?
keep up the good videos, you should make more diy type projects
Doing something custom with something you aren’t supposed to mess with is always cool. For example, DIY Perks does a lot of custom stuff and one of the many cool things he’s done is his ultra slim PS5
This looks awesome! May move to this type of PC in the future.
A question, Im from europe, so would it cost a shit ton to get that sent to Croatia
Thats a powerful mini pc this things are evolving realy fast.
Um no it isnt its just a low end gaming laptop without screen or keyboard lol and thing is you could buy the whole laptop for same price
Always makes me jealous of his beautiful garden.
It’s all dying off a bit now. Needs a lot of work before winter!
Huh, impressive. Maybe if I get enough bones together I might get this as a Christmas present.
Been debating on wether I should go with with the NUCXI7 or the HX90G. Any outside opinions are appreciated!
Gaming only or content creations included?
@@localwisdom9514 content creation included, so both
both setups are good for playing at 1080p mid-high setting and provide a 2-4 year performance guarantee for the latest games, I assume video editing to be a consideration besides the gaming aspect, they can do smooth playback and render quickly 1:1 duration with heavy editing lots of effects, grading, layering with 1080p output, but RTX will be faster because of the CUDA engine, and for 4k editing the rtx 3070 is an absolute winner in terms of rendering speed and smooth playback from light to medium editing, the rx6600m also can do it with ryzen 9 brings better multicore performance due to experience while editing but its not quite pleasing with rendering time, a good standard rendering time is at least 1:1 with the duration of the video, assuming premiere pro as main software not davinci, but if you see the hx90g price is very tempting, I personally will wait for the intel 13th version
@@localwisdom9514 thanks for your detailed input man! I think I'ma go with the NUCXI7 now that you said that!
There's a strange amount of empty space in that case, I wonder why they didn't just make it even more compact
The extra space would normally be reserved for a future upgrade.
@@tyronenelson9124 What kind of upgrade though? It doesn't look like there's any way to replace the GPU or CPU?
@@TinkerTaverns If you look closely there are expansion headers on the main board right next to where the space in the case is.
@@tyronenelson9124 Interesting, what do you think would go in that space though?
@@TinkerTaverns Possibly some sort of daughter board.
nice, it would have even fit a big battery. maybe a minisforum gamingnotebook is next?
It's a nice device but a bit expensive if you ask me at 1200$, considering a laptop with a 3070 costs about the same and has a screen, battery, keyboard, touchpad and you can use it anywhere. At 1000$ it would look a lot more appealing.
I have always had a soft spot for small form factors. These are a far bit better than the Intel Atom based things I used to play with.
8:42 that's some top tier gameplay right there lmao
Lmao the internals of that mini pc looks like the ones of a gaming laptop xD
This is actually really good, damn
Actually it isnt when you can buy the whole laptop for same price
@@primus711 i think its sort of a new tech so it’s expensive initially but im sure it will get cheaper.
@@Samarth_0512 its not new its literally overstock of old mobos for laptops
I bought a dell optiplex 3040 micro yesterday and it's like half the size of this, has only IGPU and sips only few watts power. So perfect for all day use
If there's gonna be no screen, keyboard, or battery then it needs to be cheaper than a laptop with similar specs.
Buying page cannot found?
You got this out before ETA prime lol I've been waiting to see this
I don't know if my memory reminds it ok, but I think is the same board used in MSI GS and Acer Nitro laptops.
you think this would be good for twitch if i wanted to use it as a streaming pc?
Nice pc, doesn't take up much space at your desk. Was a bit surprised that is wasn't any sata ssd, but great with dual nvme slots atleast. Building a home with laptop parts is a great idea, sounds like something the youtube DIYperks would have done.
i'd love one of these over a console but consoles are just so much more affordable and before you reply i know that this isnt supposed to be a console replacement
Pretty neat little machine. I'd imagine something like this behind a tv with a wireless keyboard & mouse or a powered usb hub on a long usb extension would make a great livingroom pc. Dual m.2 slots by the looks of the inside so plenty of storage there together with an external usb ssd or hdd.
As for the display output being a hdmi & thunderbolt 4 is a bit odd though.
Looks fantastic might check this out
I started off PC gaming with a gtx 1080 back in 2013. My whole setup PC was probably around 800-ish. If I got something like THIS?! back in the day? I'd be happy.
Has anybody tried to flash a more power-hungry bios onto this thing yet?
I've done that with a laptop 3060 and I know for a fact that people have used the same hack to increase power draw on laptop 3070s. Or is this one already at max spec?
It’s max wattage already, nothing to flash
Nobody in their right mind would buy this when you can get the whole laptop for the same price
Looks really good. This type of videos is also nice. Gg Pc for sure.🎊🎉
it seems to me that cpus with Iris Xe always end up paired with a discrete gpu in these PCs so we rarely get to see the benefits of the Iris Xe igpus in reviews and benchmarks...
This is great. I do think they should add a battery to make it more portable mini PC that you can attach to mostly anything. Seems like there's space for more. Maybe they should make it thicker and put a higher limit on both CPU and GPU as long as there's a power brick to handle it. This is definitely what I would imagine for getting a laptop for desktop replacement.
What is the power limit of the GPU?
Looks like 130W.
@@DeepteshLovesTECH i think it might actually be 120w for whatever reason, in cyberpunk at 1440p(extremely gpu heavy) it never went past like 118w.
I am actually thinking of getting this, do they ship to Australia?
Yes they ship worldwide and have an option for the AU adaptor
@n n I already a laptop from when Windows 10 first came out, and since I don't have the patience to build a pc my self this seems to be a good option.
So this is a laptop without keyboard/display/battery, but even more expensive?
will it work with VR headsets like Valve index ? it only has one display port
Hi, how about CyberPunk in 1080p high settings AND raytracing? Fps rate?
Thanx for your video and greetings from france! 👋
It's actually well priced. If I didn't already have a laptop and desktop, I would seriously consider buying one of these.
Not really. There was a aorus 15p with a 3070 + i7 12700h for $1140. Adding in ram and ssd makes this intel nuc to be $980. Its pretty poor value.
Just checked and laptop with the same spec as the i5 is just $50 more...
Or less depending where you buy its ridiculous