Every single year since the start of the NUC concept I sit down with the intent to buy one and never do because intel does a bizarrely horrible job of listing what the newest models are and where you can buy them.
Good review, nice package from Intel. I have two basic NUCs, a 5th gen (still in use) and a 11th gen. Love them both. The newer one travels with me. If I was into gaming or otherwise needed discrete graphics card, I'd absolutely go for this 13th gen Extreme one.
This is far worse. It’s a pile of eWaste waiting to happen. At least with Apple there’s so many of them around you can find parts and schematics. With this thing once it lets the magic smoke out you’re up s t creek without a paddle.
this reminds me of when apple couldn’t keep PowerPC cool in the early 2000s so they had to make that huge G5 tower that had a heat sink like 1/3rd the size of the tower, like why is it so big
Hi, awesome review, thank you! Super important question that all reviews always skip is whether or not users can install double-sides ssds!?!! Please reply about the three slots ...
I don't know why, but every time I watch one of their videos, I imagine I come back to school again. The well-mannered and informative way of doing it; maybe that's why....
I Have NUC extreme 12 i7. The size attracted me, the new one is crazy over the top size. They need a new mid sized model, i don't need the insane modern GPUs.
Hi Liza, please mention in review, that you cannot replace 750W PCU. PCU/MB cable is dedicated and does not suite any regular SFX PCU cables. This makes it a bottleneck that cannot be fixed on failure or upgraded to a better 1000W PCU for high end GPUs.
Thanks for the good review. I always enjoy your perspective. That's why I've been a subscribe for many years. I'm seriously considering this system. I don't think it's expensive at all for what you get. To build a pc wity quality components with these i/o options will be expensive already. Not many motherboards have thunderbolt 4 and they are expensive. Not to mention 10gb ethernet. The only issue for me is the 2 slot memory limitation. Otherwise a well designed piece of engineering.
If it's meant to be a home use gaming PC yes. I'm thinking of picking up one of these to use as a somewhat portable workstation, I use laptops right now because I have to switch location fairly often, but I don't move so much that I really need a laptop only. I could do with one of these things for a more fixed base PC as a companion to my XPS 13 that I lug everywhere.
@@Cenot4ph That is your opinion, my office workstation isn't cheap either, if I recall correctly it's more than this, also not normal ATX. Price isn't what matters most, to me anyway.
Hi - Great tutorial - I wonder if you have any info. on the NUC 14 Enthusiast and if one can use the Mem and SSD used on the NUC 11 in the 14 or the 13?
Nice video - like the "big" machine. Personel i use the NUC12SNKi7 for DaVinci Resolve (yes it works !!!) and i am really happy with the performence :) Maybe i want buy the big machine, too and slam a A770 in this :) thanks for this video.
I’m rocking a Nuc 12 extreme right now. I feel in no need to upgrade immediately. I think I’ll wait a little bit to upgrade and see if they slim it down a bit
@@summertyme5748 I understand. Gotta eat my own words though because I ended up buying the 13. 😆 That i7-13700K got my 1080Ti acting like a brand new GPU. Lol. Almost went with the i9 version but the performance difference for the cost was too negligible.
I have a Intel NUC10 i7 med 32GB and 1TB and I love the size and its sleek design with my Samsung Odyssey G9 240 49", but it seems to have come to the end of the road due to Fusion 360 application. I'm thinking of moving the NUC10 to the garage and just use it as a handling of 3D prints to the Bmabu Lab X1C. I more or less never play games, and if I would play a game it will be a Hunting simulator or RC drones/cars simulator like Velocidrone. Will an ASUS 13 Extreme i9 with 64GB and RTX4070 12GB be over the top and a Intel NUC12 Pro i7 with 64GB enough to meet my needs?
"mobile" cases ideally need a version that has handles. To grab and go between locations. Foldup monitors and keyboards that can be packed together also an advantage
Has anyone heard of them making a pro x version of this with ECC? I know intel has been hesitant to add ECC to the nuc line cause it cuts into the profits of Lenovo, dell, and hp. With the Nuc 12 pro x, I'm hoping they'll repeat what they did last year and drop a 'pro' version of the 13.
Dell just lost a bunch of precision sales. They do not offer workstations with Thunderbolt for connecting to storage arrays and audio interfaces ie UAD Apollo line.
Only computer that would fit in a tight space, includes Thunderbolt 4 so I can attach to a 30tb NVME ssd storage array, and offers 10tb and 2.5tb ethernet. Plus the full size PCIe. Also disassembly is so easy and quick. Its a nice and cool running system quiet as well.
If it's quieter = better. Should be designed to be quiet, actually. Current MB fan is cheap. Should be able 128gb Good that they move in the right direction.
This high heatsink for the GPU shows how badly Intel is behind Apple, when you compare this to the Mac Studio. Considering all the proprietary parts, it's hard to see how this is better than a regular SFF case like the Dan A4H2O, unless you really want to use a 4-slot 4090.
And guess what: that's exactly who this pc is for. The people who want a 4080 or 4090 with a 13700k or whatever. And proprierity parts are barely an issue with NUC's: the MB/cpu can just be upgraded more easily than with a regular system, as they all have the same footprint/connector.
NEC had a prototype @ CES a year or so I think, was like a 2-in-1 but 8 inches and with controllers. Honestly, would love for that. The only ones in that space are GPD, and while the devices seem to be really good from what I hear their after-sales support is extremely crap.
@@ahmedchampion3687 The NUC was initially made to cater Mini PC markets. Maybe Mac Studio still corresponds to the market that extreme 28-45W CPU edition NUC targets, but Mac Pro is a different league of beast.
I wish Intel would actually stick with a form factor. Then it might be worth buying. As it is, you essentially have to buy it like a laptop, which is just dumb. Just cannot even consider it as long as forward compatibility is so bad.
I get the tiny pc, and why hou would buy that. But once you get to the bigger ones you might as well just a get a tower and build it yourself. I dont understand the appeal of the bigger nucs, its just a pc at that point.
The nuc 13 is just stupid. Its practically the size of a normal ATX case with a far more inconvenient non standard layout. I am still waiting on a retro NUC that can run Dos through Windows 7 (32bit) for retro gaming and software purposes.
@@VeerMaharaj Then I'd go for a second hand PC from the right era. Or go TheRasteri route and add Soundblaster sound to a new industrial PC based on PC/104.
Disagree (with parent comment), this is the very high performance model. I do believe it's massive for its size, but at least it seems to justify itself with the cooling capacity compared to the hardware. What I do think is that from the pictures I've seen from the other NUC (the one with the Arc Integrated), _that one_ is larger than it should. It looked like they really wanted to have ports in the middle, so they just stretched the other side empty.
NUC13 Extreme is way too BIG than NUC12 Extreme. Intel, please make it smaller please. That is why we love you because of the improvement of the reduction size.
The nuc isnt a nuc anymore..... this kinda makes it pointless.... I liked the Nuc because the formfactor was different from SFF, this is even bigger than a lot of SFF builds now....
Lisa you are out of your mind. Having to rip off half of the machine to just access an ssd is not accessibility. What about noise and temperature leves? You are falling to paid review levels here, yet again.
"Mobile" Tech Review? It would be more lady-like to stick to Laptops. And everything small and mobile. "Lipstick and Curlers", does that ring a bell? §;o)?
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Have loved your reviews for a long time, Lisa. Keep up the good work and thanks for you do for this community:)
This channel needs at LEAST 1M subs by now.
Every single year since the start of the NUC concept I sit down with the intent to buy one and never do because intel does a bizarrely horrible job of listing what the newest models are and where you can buy them.
also the most insane prices. just cheaper to buy a laptop with identical hardware
Well, like Brad said. The price is prohibitive.
They're almost never priced sensibly
@@bradhaines3142 A laptop wont have near the same performance to a Nuc 13 Extreme but ok.
@@bradhaines3142 find me a laptop that can support a desktop 4090, I dare you
What a great review; I preferred the NUC 11/12 size for the Extreme models.
Good review, nice package from Intel. I have two basic NUCs, a 5th gen (still in use) and a 11th gen. Love them both. The newer one travels with me. If I was into gaming or otherwise needed discrete graphics card, I'd absolutely go for this 13th gen Extreme one.
...it's just an ITX PC at this point
i said aloud when i saw that case "ive built that before!" lol
This is far worse. It’s a pile of eWaste waiting to happen. At least with Apple there’s so many of them around you can find parts and schematics. With this thing once it lets the magic smoke out you’re up s t creek without a paddle.
let me fix that for you: It's a big, expensive, over-engineered, full of proprietary parts, non-standard and non-upgradable ITX PC.
The previous one was. This one is in mini ATX territory.
Kinda ok but not the best. Only good about it is the size.
this reminds me of when apple couldn’t keep PowerPC cool in the early 2000s so they had to make that huge G5 tower that had a heat sink like 1/3rd the size of the tower, like why is it so big
Hi, awesome review, thank you!
Super important question that all reviews always skip is whether or not users can install double-sides ssds!?!! Please reply about the three slots ...
THANKS FOR PREPARING THIS REVIEW. VERY WELL DONE.
I don't know why, but every time I watch one of their videos, I imagine I come back to school again.
The well-mannered and informative way of doing it; maybe that's why....
Thanks…I enjoyed your review as always. Blessings on your day 👍🏻
I Have NUC extreme 12 i7. The size attracted me, the new one is crazy over the top size. They need a new mid sized model, i don't need the insane modern GPUs.
arent these meant to be simple and small
Small yes, simple not always.
Hi Liza, please mention in review, that you cannot replace 750W PCU. PCU/MB cable is dedicated and does not suite any regular SFX PCU cables. This makes it a bottleneck that cannot be fixed on failure or upgraded to a better 1000W PCU for high end GPUs.
Thanks for the good review. I always enjoy your perspective. That's why I've been a subscribe for many years. I'm seriously considering this system. I don't think it's expensive at all for what you get. To build a pc wity quality components with these i/o options will be expensive already. Not many motherboards have thunderbolt 4 and they are expensive. Not to mention 10gb ethernet. The only issue for me is the 2 slot memory limitation. Otherwise a well designed piece of engineering.
Question: Would you be able to compare the Intel NUC 13 Extreme to some of the smaller workstations from Dell & HP that are "portable" ?
There are some smaller systems that are ridiculously thermally limited. Look into thermals before considering one of the small workstations.
getting a standard ATX case at this point would make a lot more financial sense
If it's meant to be a home use gaming PC yes. I'm thinking of picking up one of these to use as a somewhat portable workstation, I use laptops right now because I have to switch location fairly often, but I don't move so much that I really need a laptop only. I could do with one of these things for a more fixed base PC as a companion to my XPS 13 that I lug everywhere.
@@noth606 doesn't matter your use case, its still expensive
@@Cenot4ph That is your opinion, my office workstation isn't cheap either, if I recall correctly it's more than this, also not normal ATX. Price isn't what matters most, to me anyway.
Hi - Great tutorial - I wonder if you have any info. on the NUC 14 Enthusiast and if one can use the Mem and SSD used on the NUC 11 in the 14 or the 13?
I just bought the i7 version. Worth every penny.
Well, at least it doesn't come with any of those silly LEDs.
Agreed
Getting some cool reviews, Ty.
Nice video - like the "big" machine. Personel i use the NUC12SNKi7 for DaVinci Resolve (yes it works !!!) and i am really happy with the performence :) Maybe i want buy the big machine, too and slam a A770 in this :)
thanks for this video.
I’m rocking a Nuc 12 extreme right now. I feel in no need to upgrade immediately. I think I’ll wait a little bit to upgrade and see if they slim it down a bit
The 13 is the overkill machine for sure. As tempting as it is, I may just go with the 12 as well.
@@ComboDamageTV They’d need to offer me 32 threads and 128 G to justify the hugeness.
@@summertyme5748 I understand. Gotta eat my own words though because I ended up buying the 13. 😆
That i7-13700K got my 1080Ti acting like a brand new GPU. Lol. Almost went with the i9 version but the performance difference for the cost was too negligible.
I have a Intel NUC10 i7 med 32GB and 1TB and I love the size and its sleek design with my Samsung Odyssey G9 240 49", but it seems to have come to the end of the road due to Fusion 360 application. I'm thinking of moving the NUC10 to the garage and just use it as a handling of 3D prints to the Bmabu Lab X1C.
I more or less never play games, and if I would play a game it will be a Hunting simulator or RC drones/cars simulator like Velocidrone.
Will an ASUS 13 Extreme i9 with 64GB and RTX4070 12GB be over the top and a Intel NUC12 Pro i7 with 64GB enough to meet my needs?
Coolest Grandma ever! We need to clone her!
"mobile" cases ideally need a version that has handles. To grab and go between locations. Foldup monitors and keyboards that can be packed together also an advantage
This is not a nuc and is not portable. It's just a normal gaming or power desktop PC. Maybe it's good but it's not in the category of nuc anymore
Proud owner of NUC phantom canyon Nuc Raptor lake is the future!
Which one's better? This guy or the M2 Mac Studio?
Would it be enough for this PC to cater all Adobe Photoshop & Illustrator features but without eGPU?
Amazing review!
So its basically a prebuilt high end PC now ?
Best review of this product
do you think its feasible to travel with this, carry on airplane? or is it not solid enough to take the bouncing around like a laptop could?
Very interesting.
There is just not a single camera angle where this device looks good
Not everyone looks for a powerful computer for gaming. So for me, I don't need a GPU but would like the PCIe Expandabilty.
Has anyone heard of them making a pro x version of this with ECC? I know intel has been hesitant to add ECC to the nuc line cause it cuts into the profits of Lenovo, dell, and hp. With the Nuc 12 pro x, I'm hoping they'll repeat what they did last year and drop a 'pro' version of the 13.
Dell just lost a bunch of precision sales. They do not offer workstations with Thunderbolt for connecting to storage arrays and audio interfaces ie UAD Apollo line.
Only computer that would fit in a tight space, includes Thunderbolt 4 so I can attach to a 30tb NVME ssd storage array, and offers 10tb and 2.5tb ethernet. Plus the full size PCIe. Also disassembly is so easy and quick. Its a nice and cool running system quiet as well.
Beautiful
Sucks Intel discontinued the NUCs. :-(
Intel CEO - let's make Apple Studio competitor.... INTEL made HUGE, HOT NUC. ;)
Can you fit a 3.5 hdd in there for archiving?
Yes, but just one SATA 3.5" drive.
Looks like in the next iteration Intel will invent the ATX PC
Lol, I wonder if this will ever actually be available. The i7 NUC 12 Extreme barebones was pretty much never available for consumer purchase.
Both are very much available. Just bought this one.
If it's quieter = better. Should be designed to be quiet, actually. Current MB fan is cheap.
Should be able 128gb
Good that they move in the right direction.
This is almost as big as the dell 3460 precision SFF workstation. I like the dell 3460 since you can lay it flat.
This high heatsink for the GPU shows how badly Intel is behind Apple, when you compare this to the Mac Studio.
Considering all the proprietary parts, it's hard to see how this is better than a regular SFF case like the Dan A4H2O, unless you really want to use a 4-slot 4090.
And guess what: that's exactly who this pc is for. The people who want a 4080 or 4090 with a 13700k or whatever. And proprierity parts are barely an issue with NUC's: the MB/cpu can just be upgraded more easily than with a regular system, as they all have the same footprint/connector.
It would be nice for Intel to challenge AMD/SteamDeck and design a portable gaming handheld that could be copied by Dell, Razer etc.
NEC had a prototype @ CES a year or so I think, was like a 2-in-1 but 8 inches and with controllers.
Honestly, would love for that. The only ones in that space are GPD, and while the devices seem to be really good from what I hear their after-sales support is extremely crap.
Might not fit behind my monitor vesa mount.... Hahaha I would settle for a pizza box desktop that can fit a 4090, mounted under the desk.
Remember when the NUC was a Mac Mini alternative lol
So, apple does not make bigger Mac studio and cheese grater Mac pro, hhhmmm?🤔
@@ahmedchampion3687 The NUC was initially made to cater Mini PC markets. Maybe Mac Studio still corresponds to the market that extreme 28-45W CPU edition NUC targets, but Mac Pro is a different league of beast.
@@ahmedchampion3687 The Mac Studio is still 6-8 times smaller than this tower lol
Shame there is no handle.
I wish Intel would actually stick with a form factor. Then it might be worth buying. As it is, you essentially have to buy it like a laptop, which is just dumb. Just cannot even consider it as long as forward compatibility is so bad.
Lisa 💜
you get what you pay for, i like it
at this point intel should just start selling psu/mobo/case combinations.
I get the tiny pc, and why hou would buy that. But once you get to the bigger ones you might as well just a get a tower and build it yourself. I dont understand the appeal of the bigger nucs, its just a pc at that point.
Not a NUC if it’s a tower.
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The nuc 13 is just stupid. Its practically the size of a normal ATX case with a far more inconvenient non standard layout.
I am still waiting on a retro NUC that can run Dos through Windows 7 (32bit) for retro gaming and software purposes.
... just get an older model like a Skull Canyon?
There's a TH-camr called TheRasteri who has done a couple of mini DOS PCs. I'd just emulate in software, to be honest.
@@user-qf6yt3id3w I've tried doing win 98 and 95 in software emulation and you still have issues. Native hardware is honestly best.
@@VeerMaharaj Then I'd go for a second hand PC from the right era. Or go TheRasteri route and add Soundblaster sound to a new industrial PC based on PC/104.
@@user-qf6yt3id3w I considered that, but it still would be more accessible if someone built a dedicated product for this niche.
Had a hades canyon, well 3 of them and they all crapped out after a few years of use.
Wouldn't recommend intel NUC to anyone
basically custom case is the only interesting thing here but there are a lot of cheaper alternatives
Intel is destroying the one consumer product they had that everyone kinda understood.
It’s not like the don’t still sell NUCs in exactly the same tiny form factor these high end models are just technology showcases.
Disagree (with parent comment), this is the very high performance model. I do believe it's massive for its size, but at least it seems to justify itself with the cooling capacity compared to the hardware.
What I do think is that from the pictures I've seen from the other NUC (the one with the Arc Integrated), _that one_ is larger than it should. It looked like they really wanted to have ports in the middle, so they just stretched the other side empty.
huge
what, laptop memory slot?... noo way I am getting this one.
When I hear NUC I see fanboy milkage.
literally
great system but they runined the sff design.
... but why?
I have not gotten a NUC that ever worked….
You try plugging it in? Turning off and back on?
@@ShainAndrews don't forget to count 10 seconds after Turning it off and Turning back on for added percentage of success.
@@boredchicken5755 Absolutely. 10 count is required.
NUC 13 extreme - or JUST A REGULAR TOWER PC
NUC13 Extreme is way too BIG than NUC12 Extreme. Intel, please make it smaller please. That is why we love you because of the improvement of the reduction size.
I feel this new gen lost the uniqueness NUC had.
The nuc isnt a nuc anymore..... this kinda makes it pointless.... I liked the Nuc because the formfactor was different from SFF, this is even bigger than a lot of SFF builds now....
That's just a mini ITX PC with shittier cooling
Love you mam
Intel NUC is evolving into an overpriced custom build PC
The cases do not look that great. Those four computers look like they are all from different companies.
Why no temps and clock speeds under load? Terrible review.
Lisa you are out of your mind. Having to rip off half of the machine to just access an ssd is not accessibility. What about noise and temperature leves? You are falling to paid review levels here, yet again.
"Mobile" Tech Review? It would be more lady-like to stick to Laptops. And everything small and mobile. "Lipstick and Curlers", does that ring a bell? §;o)?
@user-fe6ps6rp7p Thanks for the selection! Unfortunately it is beyond my abilities to use "Telegram". Sorry ! §;o(#, But anyway, isn't life good? §;o)#
Very stuterry video quality. Please go 60FPS.
You must have a hard time watching anything on TV/streaming services if that bothers you.
@@Havanu81 You must have a hard time keeping your fingers steady if my comment bothers you.
@@pianospectra I'm trembling so hard right now, you have no idea.
this is NOT a NUC. they name it.. but a NUC will forever be super smol not tiny big
no its not thats a desktop w t f