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A,I, IS ALL HYPE, Dont NEED IT IN MY WORKFLOW.. .JUST A POWERFULL PC IS ENOUGH FOR DESIGN AND FLUID DYNAMICS...DONT NEED ANY A.I. SUGGESTIONS OR FOOLISHNESS ...
The "AtomMan X7 Ti mini PC" appears to be really Cool looking with great features ...however it's too expensive. I'd rather spend that money on a custom built Desktop PC that has access to cheap parts available everywhere & is easily repairable if/when a Hardware problem happens. 🙂
can you elaborate on the components you chose in your custom built that makes for a cheaper and at least as powerful machine (not forgetting the case the fan the alim the usb-c / 3 the lan... etc and how long it takes to assemble) ?
@@danielgriffith8911 Mini-PC's use mostly proprietary Hardware ...so when the Warranty is over & there is a Hardware problem, the user/owner will be paying really "BIG Bucks trying to get it fixed. I've been building & fixing PC's for 40 years & 99% of all PC'ers would rather have a custom Desktop build.🙂
I own one of these devices and I am very very impressed with it. I was also researching that it had enough USB 4.0 ports and it also can support up to three HDMI monitors. The model which I have is a Ryzen 7 with 32 GB of RAM and a 1 terabyte SSD hard drive it serves me well though I wish I had a large USB hard drive enclosures to connect with it because this is not one of those larger Tower or server cases the hard drive limitations can be annoying. But overall I was very impressed with its speed and functionality and especially in such a tiny form factor, whereas for many years I was building my own full tower systems. At one point I was running for computers at once through a four-way Linksys KVM switch and that drove up my electric bill, but with this micro computer I am using it hardly draws any electricity.
Yeah this looks like a Pretty Cool little unit, I was a Desk Top guy for many many years, but then I started doing TH-cam, and when you travel you can't take a Desktop. And I HATE using the Keyboard and Mouse Pad on a Laptop. Then I found the MINISFORUM UM790 Pro, and I bought one, and it is actually more Powerful than my Ryzen 7 Desktop I had. It has a Ryzen 9 and I put 96GB of Ram in it, and 4TB NVMe Drive so it screams along fairly well. I have editied several Videos with it, and I am very happy, and it Fits in my Suitcase! 😁
It lends itself to using a VESA mount, such as under or behind a desk or behind a monitor, etc.. Then the wires can be supported by the back of the monitor, desk or a wall, a custom cabinet etc.
I would like to know which of these miniPcs is the best at running Resolve in your experience. I've watched almos all your videos on minipcs and this is the only one you didn't test resolve like the others. I would love to see a battle of minipcs running resolve. Your channel is the absolute best. Thanks a lot for all the work you do.
i dont do davinci, nor any other video eiditing software, but as far as i know youd need a dedicated gpu for video eiditing, no? id look at thinkstation p3 ultra, which you can configure with up to a2000. but, not with an i9 since that config has two coolers, one above pcie slot. in short, p3 ultra has a pcie slot for a dedicated gpu. it can get expensive, but you could find it on sale, or just config it for yourself over at lenovo website. i snagged one two months ago, basic config… i513500, 16gb ram, no gpu, 512gb nvme, 3 year warranty but it was only 800$ which was like 150$ less than lenovo price (i did get it through a 3rd party supplier, and managed to bump the warranty to 5 years, but through them, 3 is still with lenovo directly). also, temps are not great even without a dedicated gpu crammed in there. like, at idle ram is above 40c and so is nvme. cpu jumps up to and above 90 and the whole thing then starts to sound like a turbine engine, but… it is small factor and i can upgrade with a dedicated gpu, including a2000 since i5 (and up to i7, 12, 13 and i believe 14th gen now) has only one cooler. cheers.
Would be super interested in seeing one more use case added as a "part 2" to this video: for bootable ZFS arrays on Proxmox, I believe the installer partitions the underlying physical disk using LVM (and setting up boot partitions for every disk) then creates the ROOT ZFS array by passing the remaining space on every disk as an LVM to ZFS to build the array. The big question is, does this storage architecture cause a "worst of all worlds" scenario where all VMs/LXCs stored on the bootable ZFS array encounter both whatever performance hit might exist from LVM, plus that from ZFS ? Or does the resulting ZFS array perform similarly to a ZFS array created natively directly on the physical disks ? Thanks as always for answering the questions that everyone wants to know, but nobody wants to test. Your channel is a treasure. Keep up the amazing work !
Keeping the temp down is always the final arbiter on minipc. It's nice to see all Intel or all AMD systems. People should also think about offloading duty to an external gpu system, and this would be good for that. Price-wise, you're getting an Intel Arc on it. Not bad, but more than likely, people will reach for aftermarket ram and nvme. A good starter package for dev.
I would like to see how this run on Linux. I wonder if those pc status display as well as the fingerprint reader and facial recognition will still work? 🤔
I use AI tools all of the time, but very little is on device. I bought a Ultra 7 155H, but rarely see the NPU fire-up! As a creator I use it loads, mostly voice transcription to make scripts, video editing and for thumbnails. I'm also finding it very useful for my teaching job, and also for research. But yeah, almost all cloud based at the moment!
Are citations problematic or grading or collecting for work you were entrusted to perform, using your experience and judgemental, only to present auto-genetated work? Unfortunately, when AI gets things wrong, it can do so spectacularly erroneously.
I would definitely purchase this mini PC if they did a slight redesign to move the power and all inputs to the rear instead of the sides. It would be more of an annoyance than a benefit with its current design. I know the PC may become wider but it would be more appealing to the consumer while in use. Great channel btw 👍
One thing to consider is the actually upgradable memory for gpu because it will use ram. And it will allow you to run huge models. Slow yes, at least you can run it.
I asked myself the same question and had to do a little digging. The CPU (Intel Core Ultra 9 Processor 185H) has an on-die NPU, supporting: OpenVINO, WindowsML, ONNX RT So it can accelerate Machine Learning on those three frameworks. For general purpose AI stuff, you're still better off with an nVidia GPU for 99% of what's out there now (which you will not get with this). The most viable AI use case for this would be running Llama 3+ locally. OpenVINO can boost that. Mixing Llama with Obsidian and HomeAssistant does kind of turn you into a motherfucking sorcerer, lol. That is an insanely powerful combination. But it's also a very niche use-case for more hardcore DIY'ers in the automation space right now. That's not going to be on most people's radar for another year or two, until matter-spec devices become more ubiquitous. The other use-case that comes to mind is for people running AI shopping agents. Basically custom AI bots that track your purchases and prices (aggregated from thousands of sources) and basically does all the "extreme couponing" stuff for you via online vendors. People are making a killing with that right now, but I don't think there's a lot of longevity in that pursuit. If you do that sort of thing, this will probably pay for itself, but that's on the far fringes of my domain of knowledge in terms of setup. But those also use Llama, so it could theoretically benefit from acceleration. I just don't think shaving a few seconds off of those tasks would make a big difference for most who engage in that. They do explicitly mention Topaz Labs GigaPixel AI... there are better free online upscalers right now. I don't think that's compelling for most right now. I think the major push here is for Microsoft Co-Pilot acceleration inside of Office. Having Excel evaluate data for example. I think that's how 99% of people will interact with this in the short term. The NPU is a good thing to have, but the people who need it are going to go a lot bigger than this, unless they have a very specific need for a small form-factor, or low price. The price however is good. The bare-bones config (minus RAM and SSD) sells for just $50 over the processor's MSRP. There's value here for sure. But I think the AI features are mentioned mostly for the marketing buzz. They're on the chip anyway, so they will mention them. But for 99.999% of people, it shouldn't be a significant factor in whether or not they buy this. As mini PCs go however, this is a reasonably priced power-house. Sadly, they don't mention the full USB-4 spec. USB-4 is a catch-all term for a wide range of optional spec features, and you kind of need to know what flavor of USB-4 it is. The manufacturer doesn't even specify in their spec sheet. That is annoying, lol. Again, not a deal-breaker for most people, but if you're someone who needs to know, guess they expect you to just roll the dice, lol.
To be fair, any chip that uses intel Core Ultra xx can be called "ai chip" because that's how Intel market it. But i do see this as a very capable AI server over local network, because: 1. it has an OCCULINK port, so you can connect highend eGPUs like RTX 4090 without having bandwidth limitation. And you may just run Ollama, Stable Diffusion on it, use it as an AI server for other computers or even phone/ipad on local network to access the services using just browser. Almost all local AI stuffs requires good GPU only, an above average CPU will be enough. the one inside is good enough and is efficient. 2. this has 5Ghz ethernet. If you have proper network switch, this can definitely be used for NAS purpose too.
It looks good, but it seems to me that the base does not support the weight of the equipment, every time you use the touch screen you hold the base with the other hand. It would be something to fix, otherwise looks good.
Have this thing now a couple of weeks and it's a fine little PC. Fast, not to much fan-noise, energy efficient. But the AI part is not there. No copilot or other fancy stuff. I don't miss it that much, but it isn't there. Which is a bit strange, because of the Ultra9 processor.
I think maybe the intention is you would use it for your own purposes, like installing a local LLM via OpenLM on Windows, or be running Machine Learning stuff via Python. Microsoft's Copilot (formerly Cortana) was a big fail, but the Github Copilot dev tool is running strong. So I think it is kind of a developer machine perhaps.
This is an amazing bit of kit, its the first one I think is worth buying since the "Fit PC 2". Can you let me know if it comes with 11 Home or Pro, I will never ever by anything with Home on it.
From the specifications in the web page, it seems is "only capable of" Wi-Fi 7 ，BlueTooth 5.4. You'll need to by the 2230 M.2 capable module: "Wireless Connectivity M.2 2230 WIFI Support (Wi-Fi 7 ，BlueTooth 5.4)" That should be mentioned/clarified.
I'm looking for a mini pc for the living room. I only watch videos online and need to replace my nuc, this WOULD have been nice, but having the cables come connect to the sides mess it up.
Really like what minis forum makes. However for me had a pretty bad return problem with them. Got a pc that would crash after 2-3 minutes trouble shooted with them for 3 weeks. Tried a million things. Took forever to convince them to let me return then took 2-3 months to get a refund.
He was shitting on the RMA they outsourced to some weird country I forget. ASUS howeber like all other hardware manufacters are going to eventually make their way into your ecosystem because in the PC building world, very few devices are simply one brand do it all. Like Apple for example, now doing its own sillicon, has basically regained dictatorship control over the machines. Which is silly, because, no one on a apple machine is going to do the kind of heresy to their form factor that PC and Linux users call innovative building... or adding a part or button instead of just cutting things off until youve got a mac pro that has pcie slots but nothing to put in them
are those graphene heat spreaders on the Crucial RAM ? (referring to the grey color stickers) can this support 96 gb ddr5 crucial memory (48gb x2 sticks) ?
Interesting product but frankly, MTL/1XXh just isn't very good. I'm eagerly waiting for Lunar Lake to produce things like that, should be amazing when the first laptops come out.
lol for that price you can build an itx pc that's only a few times bigger but 100x more powerful without being too power consuming. still, I hope this tech keeps improving. we should be getting tiny pc's like this today.
Not a "desktop killer" when it's got an on-board GPU equivalent to last gen/lower tier GPU cards. Yes you can add an EGPU but then you're at full desktop PC money anyway and you'll need some additional carriage/PSU for the GPU. Might as well just do an ITX build for better performance and similar footprint when it's all said and done.
So as a guy who is actually into running his own local LLM's, what's the "AI" part of this AI product? Does the iGPU have tensor cores? Is there an "NPU"? Or is it just the new marketing hype?
@@fushumang1716 The usage of LLMs and Stable Diffusion is limited by VRAM, not RAM. You can run quantized small LLMs such as phi3 (smallest version) at decent speeds in normal RAM. You may push it to 7b or 8B but anything bigger it gets painful quickly. And while you may be fine even if 1-3 token/s generation speed, the time until the system even starts generating text quickly gets into the minutes area as the chat gets longer.
Hello, unrelated to the video but some 2 years ago you guys tested the 7900 XT for creators and quickly dropped it cause it kept having bugs. Have you tried it since(or 7800 XT or XTX)? Has it gotten any better, or is it still problematic? Just curious to see if the support got better or not.
much better, but if you just compare stability, then Nvidia is still better. But definitely not sucking anymore, definitely worth checking the Radeon cards out.
I use AI everyday; and from the data I've come across it would seem that the CPU+GPU+NPU would provide enough performance when working with large language models. If you purchase their GPU dock which can support AMD 7900 up to Nvidia RTX 4090 GPUS, then you end up with a very nice AI PC that takes up very little space. This type of PC seems better suited to those that want a simple set and forget machine. For power users that want onboard AI, it seems we will have to wait for powerful NPU chips to be implemented on high performance desktop motherboards.
I'm afraid to tell you that the PC you have displayed has spyware adware already installed ....its called Windows, and it screenshots your screen every 2 seconds. A feature from recall in all windows pc's.The only on turned roge that I know off.
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TechNotice I like how you are combining software and hardware lookup.And that is what most people like.Keep it up bro.
A,I, IS ALL HYPE, Dont NEED IT IN MY WORKFLOW.. .JUST A POWERFULL PC IS ENOUGH FOR DESIGN AND FLUID DYNAMICS...DONT NEED ANY A.I. SUGGESTIONS OR FOOLISHNESS ...
The "AtomMan X7 Ti mini PC" appears to be really Cool looking with great features ...however it's too expensive. I'd rather spend that money on a custom built Desktop PC that has access to cheap parts available everywhere & is easily repairable if/when a Hardware problem happens. 🙂
can you elaborate on the components you chose in your custom built that makes for a cheaper and at least as powerful machine (not forgetting the case the fan the alim the usb-c / 3 the lan... etc and how long it takes to assemble) ?
you are NOT gonna build something cheaper that has Oculink...
@@danielgriffith8911 Mini-PC's use mostly proprietary Hardware ...so when the Warranty is over & there is a Hardware problem, the user/owner will be paying really "BIG Bucks trying to get it fixed. I've been building & fixing PC's for 40 years & 99% of all PC'ers would rather have a custom Desktop build.🙂
@@JayMane-z7c Miniforum MS-A1 comes with an unsoldered chip and barebones.
@@JayMane-z7c Mini vs Tower is another topic, really. Its like comparing a laptop to a tower.
I own one of these devices and I am very very impressed with it. I was also researching that it had enough USB 4.0 ports and it also can support up to three HDMI monitors. The model which I have is a Ryzen 7 with 32 GB of RAM and a 1 terabyte SSD hard drive it serves me well though I wish I had a large USB hard drive enclosures to connect with it because this is not one of those larger Tower or server cases the hard drive limitations can be annoying.
But overall I was very impressed with its speed and functionality and especially in such a tiny form factor, whereas for many years I was building my own full tower systems. At one point I was running for computers at once through a four-way Linksys KVM switch and that drove up my electric bill, but with this micro computer I am using it hardly draws any electricity.
google rasberry pi nas
Wow ur so rich then? 🤭 Sana maambunan hehehe
Good video. You showed one of the BEST reasons to buy Minisforum. Their COOLING technology is the best in MiniPCs.
Integrating camera and visual display are really innovative concepts.
Really? Back in my days, those were called laptops
Wish those cables were on the back. Such a messy look having the wires come out the side.
Just turn it around
Excellent reviews
I think the temperature indicator refers to the pc’s temperature and not your weather temperature 😊😊😊
The future of PC
Yeah this looks like a Pretty Cool little unit, I was a Desk Top guy for many many years, but then I started doing TH-cam, and when you travel you can't take a Desktop. And I HATE using the Keyboard and Mouse Pad on a Laptop. Then I found the MINISFORUM UM790 Pro, and I bought one, and it is actually more Powerful than my Ryzen 7 Desktop I had. It has a Ryzen 9 and I put 96GB of Ram in it, and 4TB NVMe Drive so it screams along fairly well. I have editied several Videos with it, and I am very happy, and it Fits in my Suitcase! 😁
Really cool. It reminds me of CASE and TARS in the movie Interstellar. It would be nice if in the future It can speak and communicate with humans.
& walk...
Looks very good piece of kit Lauri Pesur. Love your work. :)
It is very warm in that room.
It lends itself to using a VESA mount, such as under or behind a desk or behind a monitor, etc.. Then the wires can be supported by the back of the monitor, desk or a wall, a custom cabinet etc.
I would like to know which of these miniPcs is the best at running Resolve in your experience. I've watched almos all your videos on minipcs and this is the only one you didn't test resolve like the others. I would love to see a battle of minipcs running resolve. Your channel is the absolute best. Thanks a lot for all the work you do.
i dont do davinci, nor any other video eiditing software, but as far as i know youd need a dedicated gpu for video eiditing, no? id look at thinkstation p3 ultra, which you can configure with up to a2000. but, not with an i9 since that config has two coolers, one above pcie slot. in short, p3 ultra has a pcie slot for a dedicated gpu. it can get expensive, but you could find it on sale, or just config it for yourself over at lenovo website. i snagged one two months ago, basic config… i513500, 16gb ram, no gpu, 512gb nvme, 3 year warranty but it was only 800$ which was like 150$ less than lenovo price (i did get it through a 3rd party supplier, and managed to bump the warranty to 5 years, but through them, 3 is still with lenovo directly). also, temps are not great even without a dedicated gpu crammed in there. like, at idle ram is above 40c and so is nvme. cpu jumps up to and above 90 and the whole thing then starts to sound like a turbine engine, but… it is small factor and i can upgrade with a dedicated gpu, including a2000 since i5 (and up to i7, 12, 13 and i believe 14th gen now) has only one cooler. cheers.
hope someone resolves your question.
Awesome device - can't wait for an AMD version
Great job. I wanted something like that. Ready to go out of the box, just connect the LAN, monitor, keyboard and mouse and you are ready to go.
For me, it actually can be pretty useful as I do a lot of AI-related tasks including running AI models locally.
Would be super interested in seeing one more use case added as a "part 2" to this video: for bootable ZFS arrays on Proxmox, I believe the installer partitions the underlying physical disk using LVM (and setting up boot partitions for every disk) then creates the ROOT ZFS array by passing the remaining space on every disk as an LVM to ZFS to build the array. The big question is, does this storage architecture cause a "worst of all worlds" scenario where all VMs/LXCs stored on the bootable ZFS array encounter both whatever performance hit might exist from LVM, plus that from ZFS ? Or does the resulting ZFS array perform similarly to a ZFS array created natively directly on the physical disks ?
Thanks as always for answering the questions that everyone wants to know, but nobody wants to test. Your channel is a treasure. Keep up the amazing work !
Keeping the temp down is always the final arbiter on minipc. It's nice to see all Intel or all AMD systems. People should also think about offloading duty to an external gpu system, and this would be good for that. Price-wise, you're getting an Intel Arc on it. Not bad, but more than likely, people will reach for aftermarket ram and nvme. A good starter package for dev.
I would like to see how this run on Linux. I wonder if those pc status display as well as the fingerprint reader and facial recognition will still work? 🤔
"Keep looking directly onto the camera"
Proceeds to look at other things in the room.
They may have missed the mark on cable management but cool concept
I use AI tools all of the time, but very little is on device. I bought a Ultra 7 155H, but rarely see the NPU fire-up!
As a creator I use it loads, mostly voice transcription to make scripts, video editing and for thumbnails. I'm also finding it very useful for my teaching job, and also for research. But yeah, almost all cloud based at the moment!
Are citations problematic or grading or collecting for work you were entrusted to perform, using your experience and judgemental, only to present auto-genetated work? Unfortunately, when AI gets things wrong, it can do so spectacularly erroneously.
I would definitely purchase this mini PC if they did a slight redesign to move the power and all inputs to the rear instead of the sides. It would be more of an annoyance than a benefit with its current design. I know the PC may become wider but it would be more appealing to the consumer while in use. Great channel btw 👍
BEST AI Mini PC - What AI exactly? Looks like the title was totally missed in the review 😁
I was wondering the same thing.
One thing to consider is the actually upgradable memory for gpu because it will use ram. And it will allow you to run huge models. Slow yes, at least you can run it.
I asked myself the same question and had to do a little digging.
The CPU (Intel Core Ultra 9 Processor 185H) has an on-die NPU, supporting:
OpenVINO, WindowsML, ONNX RT
So it can accelerate Machine Learning on those three frameworks.
For general purpose AI stuff, you're still better off with an nVidia GPU for 99% of what's out there now (which you will not get with this).
The most viable AI use case for this would be running Llama 3+ locally. OpenVINO can boost that. Mixing Llama with Obsidian and HomeAssistant does kind of turn you into a motherfucking sorcerer, lol. That is an insanely powerful combination. But it's also a very niche use-case for more hardcore DIY'ers in the automation space right now. That's not going to be on most people's radar for another year or two, until matter-spec devices become more ubiquitous.
The other use-case that comes to mind is for people running AI shopping agents. Basically custom AI bots that track your purchases and prices (aggregated from thousands of sources) and basically does all the "extreme couponing" stuff for you via online vendors. People are making a killing with that right now, but I don't think there's a lot of longevity in that pursuit. If you do that sort of thing, this will probably pay for itself, but that's on the far fringes of my domain of knowledge in terms of setup. But those also use Llama, so it could theoretically benefit from acceleration. I just don't think shaving a few seconds off of those tasks would make a big difference for most who engage in that.
They do explicitly mention Topaz Labs GigaPixel AI... there are better free online upscalers right now. I don't think that's compelling for most right now.
I think the major push here is for Microsoft Co-Pilot acceleration inside of Office. Having Excel evaluate data for example. I think that's how 99% of people will interact with this in the short term.
The NPU is a good thing to have, but the people who need it are going to go a lot bigger than this, unless they have a very specific need for a small form-factor, or low price.
The price however is good. The bare-bones config (minus RAM and SSD) sells for just $50 over the processor's MSRP. There's value here for sure. But I think the AI features are mentioned mostly for the marketing buzz. They're on the chip anyway, so they will mention them. But for 99.999% of people, it shouldn't be a significant factor in whether or not they buy this. As mini PCs go however, this is a reasonably priced power-house.
Sadly, they don't mention the full USB-4 spec. USB-4 is a catch-all term for a wide range of optional spec features, and you kind of need to know what flavor of USB-4 it is. The manufacturer doesn't even specify in their spec sheet. That is annoying, lol. Again, not a deal-breaker for most people, but if you're someone who needs to know, guess they expect you to just roll the dice, lol.
To be fair, any chip that uses intel Core Ultra xx can be called "ai chip" because that's how Intel market it. But i do see this as a very capable AI server over local network, because:
1. it has an OCCULINK port, so you can connect highend eGPUs like RTX 4090 without having bandwidth limitation. And you may just run Ollama, Stable Diffusion on it, use it as an AI server for other computers or even phone/ipad on local network to access the services using just browser. Almost all local AI stuffs requires good GPU only, an above average CPU will be enough. the one inside is good enough and is efficient.
2. this has 5Ghz ethernet. If you have proper network switch, this can definitely be used for NAS purpose too.
AI made the PC
It looks good, but it seems to me that the base does not support the weight of the equipment, every time you use the touch screen you hold the base with the other hand. It would be something to fix, otherwise looks good.
I was about to watch this video but the asus ad totally killed it for me.
Yea totally he should do this for free lol.
imagine a lunar lake version of this. that would be a dream
Luna Lake and an exposed PCIe port, like the GTI Ultra series from Beelink
Asus + Windows. Wow. You got a good one. Good luck with it.
I being a recording musician I can ever go back to widows pc. Maybe one day someone will make a dedicated music production computer that’s not Apple.
Have this thing now a couple of weeks and it's a fine little PC. Fast, not to much fan-noise, energy efficient. But the AI part is not there. No copilot or other fancy stuff. I don't miss it that much, but it isn't there. Which is a bit strange, because of the Ultra9 processor.
I think maybe the intention is you would use it for your own purposes, like installing a local LLM via OpenLM on Windows, or be running Machine Learning stuff via Python. Microsoft's Copilot (formerly Cortana) was a big fail, but the Github Copilot dev tool is running strong. So I think it is kind of a developer machine perhaps.
@@kaizen5023 it does not have the power to be running any useful LLM nothing more than 3b if even that.
Nice review, PC manufacturers are just forcing us to AI which we dont need,
This is an amazing bit of kit, its the first one I think is worth buying since the "Fit PC 2". Can you let me know if it comes with 11 Home or Pro, I will never ever by anything with Home on it.
11 pro
Amazing. I think I want one.
From the specifications in the web page, it seems is "only capable of" Wi-Fi 7 ，BlueTooth 5.4. You'll need to by the 2230 M.2 capable module:
"Wireless Connectivity M.2 2230 WIFI Support (Wi-Fi 7 ，BlueTooth 5.4)"
That should be mentioned/clarified.
I love your videos. I need a pc or Mac can edit 8K video. Which specs ? Mac and Pc. Thanks
Clearly you should add a squirrel cage fan to this gizmo.
Their website has been messed up for sometime. When you try to look at specs for anything you get the specs for the laptop
The Audio option its because you have a display connected using the HDMI Port. HDMI it's audio and video.
Nice, would be interesting if you also got the oculink dock, a power supply and a graphics card to see how well it works in an egpu set up.
Yes, I think the Oculink capability is the hidden gem with this machine. Really want to see how easy and effective this is in practice.
I could see this being cool as an "Alexa alternative" Running Linux and a privatize AI assistant. Any info on that being possible/practical?
I'm looking for a mini pc for the living room. I only watch videos online and need to replace my nuc, this WOULD have been nice, but having the cables come connect to the sides mess it up.
Really like what minis forum makes. However for me had a pretty bad return problem with them. Got a pc that would crash after 2-3 minutes trouble shooted with them for 3 weeks. Tried a million things. Took forever to convince them to let me return then took 2-3 months to get a refund.
ASUS ProArt? didn´t you made a video months ago about their Motherboard and terrible Customer Service? now you recomend them?
money talks more :)
Good observation!
This guy has absolutely no morals. Zero morals. 0% morality.
Try to live in this world with just morals... this guy must have something to eat..
He was shitting on the RMA they outsourced to some weird country I forget. ASUS howeber like all other hardware manufacters are going to eventually make their way into your ecosystem because in the PC building world, very few devices are simply one brand do it all. Like Apple for example, now doing its own sillicon, has basically regained dictatorship control over the machines. Which is silly, because, no one on a apple machine is going to do the kind of heresy to their form factor that PC and Linux users call innovative building... or adding a part or button instead of just cutting things off until youve got a mac pro that has pcie slots but nothing to put in them
Interesting to see if thin clients will ever pick up popularity mainstream.
yeah...but how does it game? thats the only pertinent question
are those graphene heat spreaders on the Crucial RAM ? (referring to the grey color stickers)
can this support 96 gb ddr5 crucial memory (48gb x2 sticks) ?
Here I was hoping for the AI specs--running ollama and/or CumfyUI/Flux/Stable Diffusion or something.
Interesting product but frankly, MTL/1XXh just isn't very good.
I'm eagerly waiting for Lunar Lake to produce things like that, should be amazing when the first laptops come out.
small yet powerfull
You can make a fancy router out of it :)
lol for that price you can build an itx pc that's only a few times bigger but 100x more powerful without being too power consuming. still, I hope this tech keeps improving. we should be getting tiny pc's like this today.
can we just get the display touch screen w/o buying the pc? I have a mini pc that could use this...
Why the constant flash of triple six (👌) what is it all about?
What is the cost of that mini PC 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Not a "desktop killer" when it's got an on-board GPU equivalent to last gen/lower tier GPU cards. Yes you can add an EGPU but then you're at full desktop PC money anyway and you'll need some additional carriage/PSU for the GPU. Might as well just do an ITX build for better performance and similar footprint when it's all said and done.
Is the Minisforum declared this minipc as with ai?
Neat unit. Horrible cable input positions
I'd be interested if it was linux, windows nope. Amiga o/s might be fun on it.
This has nothing to do with AI. The product itself has nothing to do with AI. Total BS
Most AI has nothing to do with AI, nearly everything we see is simple machine learning. With a emphasis on simple 🤷♂️
@@blueberrywilbur315 None of what you said has anything to do with anything. Nice try, though. 🤡
Agreed. Clickbait title by the owner of this channel.
thanks a lot for the explanation, but i could not find on ASUS web? can you please help.
MinisForum is a well-known manufacturer from Shenzhen, China, specializing in compact
Could it work as a streaming pc?
Thank you
So as a guy who is actually into running his own local LLM's, what's the "AI" part of this AI product?
Does the iGPU have tensor cores? Is there an "NPU"? Or is it just the new marketing hype?
Predominantly marketing hype I reckon
It's got an NPU, coz of the Intel Core Ultra 9 185h CPU :)
@@theTechNotice Unless it can run a 70b LLM at Q4 and work with Flux at reasonable speeds, it's doesn't deserve the label "AI".
can the RAM be upgraded? I saw GMTek minipc ran LLMs on 96GB
@@fushumang1716 The usage of LLMs and Stable Diffusion is limited by VRAM, not RAM. You can run quantized small LLMs such as phi3 (smallest version) at decent speeds in normal RAM. You may push it to 7b or 8B but anything bigger it gets painful quickly. And while you may be fine even if 1-3 token/s generation speed, the time until the system even starts generating text quickly gets into the minutes area as the chat gets longer.
Nice McLaren F1 car.
Have a nice day. I like it personally I just want the hardware the ai. Is is with us. I want to play with my own colonel
Thank you.
I would be great if he had tested Linux. A boot with Ubuntu LTS live disk just to give an idea what is recognized.
now we need a minecraft test on it
The big question is how many monitors of what resolution can it drive?
This is good.
3:57 That's a Hong Kong SAR flag for Traditional Chinese
Can it lower the electrical consum?
Can mini PCs be used with only laptops?
Does this mini PC still have registration issues when connected to the internet? Most of the work I do requires constant internet connection.
who else was rolling their eyes when he said "military grade"?
This guy is such a bot repeater, he's probably AI 😂😂
What happens if there is a power outage?
I use AI in my workflow for LARGE technical document development and for editing video.
Hello, unrelated to the video but some 2 years ago you guys tested the 7900 XT for creators and quickly dropped it cause it kept having bugs.
Have you tried it since(or 7800 XT or XTX)? Has it gotten any better, or is it still problematic?
Just curious to see if the support got better or not.
much better, but if you just compare stability, then Nvidia is still better. But definitely not sucking anymore, definitely worth checking the Radeon cards out.
@@theTechNotice Thanks!
So finger print and face recognition? Gee that sounds like alot of e waste if it doesn't have a factory reset mode lowers resale value?
experiment for us with a recomended external graphics card
I notice tech, I tech notice and I say no, 'tis take too much . :)
Where do I put my new video card ?
would be interesting if it could use an external card via Thunderbolt.
I use AI everyday; and from the data I've come across it would seem that the CPU+GPU+NPU would provide enough performance when working with large language models. If you purchase their GPU dock which can support AMD 7900 up to Nvidia RTX 4090 GPUS, then you end up with a very nice AI PC that takes up very little space. This type of PC seems better suited to those that want a simple set and forget machine. For power users that want onboard AI, it seems we will have to wait for powerful NPU chips to be implemented on high performance desktop motherboards.
Does a use windows?
THE ONLY PC YOU NEED TO KNOW IS DELL :-)
Can you install Windows 11 pro on it?
What is the use of mini pc?
Could it run Amplitube 5?
AMD Version Needed ASAP💯....
I'm afraid to tell you that the PC you have displayed has spyware adware already installed ....its called Windows, and it screenshots your screen every 2 seconds. A feature from recall in all windows pc's.The only on turned roge that I know off.
All computers now know your location
Storage?
This!
Is!
The desktop killlerrrr!
This, IS, THE, desktop killerrrrAHHHHH!!!!
Sorry. Just channeling some JP.
Can I make music on this thing?
Aesthetically the cables/ports should come out of the back! It looked so good until all the cables were plugged into the side 🤦🏻♂️
you cam probably add an external Gpu and Youre set.
Would be better if it was double the Size with 20,000mAh Battery