Technically it's a matter of Scotland ceding territory to Ireland. The Kingdom of Dal Riata was one of five founding members of Scotland (900ad) and was a Kingdom which originated in 'Ulster/County Antrim' and had invaded the western Scottish coast and islands carving out a territory which spanned the Irish sea. It's the reason Scotland became Scotland rather than Pictland and the beginning of how the four Pictish Kingdoms culturally faded from existance.
'Not in my lifetime" ... It may just be another case of saying what needs to be said right now to silence the weeins, and reduce the rattly-out-of-the-prams-throwing that the Right wing British Islanders and/or D political wing U the loyalist P aramilitaries do be spending much of their time at, since Europe/US introduced the notion of equality into the theater of Irish colonization project, and then started to legally enforce equality in the north east of ireland relatively recently (circa 1971 onwards). These remarks in the house, and what they represent, whether genuinely stated or otherwise, is exemplification of why anyone would be well advised to be deeply distrusting of Sir P. Albion Esquire.
I say this as a english person, but he as an english person needs to shut his gob on this issue because it is not for him to decide or predict as someone who isn't Irish , even if he is the 'secretary of northern ireland'
@@ralphdavidson9542 perhaps, but northern irelands right to self decision superceeds any concern of this, especialy since northern Ireland is probably the least connected, psychologically and physically
@@zxgeorger If the people of North Ireland decide to leave the UK then the Irish in Ireland (south) also get to have a referendum on potential Irish unification. Complicated place is Ireland and totally misunderstood by the vast majority of people in G.B. Whatever the future brings Irish unification is a certainty demographics, economics and the tide of history all point this way.
Should Northern Ireland wish to join with Ireland to form a united Ireland, then it's for the people of both Northern Ireland and also of Ireland to decide, in two separate referenda, one in each of these two jurisdictions.
Article 4 of the constitution says that the name of the state is Ireland in the English language, and Éire in the Irish language. So the 26 counties that form the larger jurisdiction on the island of Ireland is called Ireland, and the 6 counties that forms the smaller jurisdiction is called Northern Ireland. Republic of Ireland or the Republic or ROI are often used in an every day way to refer to the 26 county part.
It is specifically this mentality that is making unification all the more certain. I've never had a unionist actually try to sell the union to me as nationalist. It's always "it's never gonna happen" "NI is british"..what are the benefits? Austerity, underfunding, social deprivation, a health service not fit for purpose (but its ok because its free). We can do better 👌
All those downsides, yet at great expense to the British taxpayer when there are social problems on a much greater scale in Britain in need of public funds. Nobody wins under the current arrangements.
@@ralphdavidson9542 people in NI pay taxes all the same as the 'mainland'. The idea that the south don't want the north in its current form is probably true, however I refuse to believe that NI is just an unwanted bill, as if we don't have the potential to have a productive economy? Why not? An all island approach would be beneficial, especially with the backing of the EU who would not wish to see a unified Ireland fail.
@@adamryan19 It is not, just that person is a coward and only talks tough inside the safe, protected halls government buildings. He wouldn't say that alone in rest of Ireland 🤣
The only mistake is Nationalists banging on about it when it isn't a given. Nothing is guaranteed and a referendum will have to be done to get the answer.
As an English person, most of us don’t care and can see the obvious fact that NI belongs to Ireland, why don’t all these unionists just come to live in England
"why don't all these unionists just come to live in England" I suppose it's for the same reason as people in each of Scotland, England and Wales want to stay in their own respective part of the UK, and have no great affection for the other parts; for instance most English people don't want to made to up sticks and go and live in Scotland, or Northern Ireland. As I understand it, most of the unionists similarly have no wish to live in any of England, Wales or Scotland. They generally just want to live in Northern Ireland, the part of the UK to which they belong, and where their friends and relatives are. It seems to me that most British people just want to stay in the part of the UK to which they belong.
@@odunadhaigh you say this like it's "they just want to live there" and not "they started a war which killed thousands for their own political and financial gain by using fear and death squad paramilitaries to keep British people in line and to keep the native population as a second class" Pretty sure when the British lost the USA or India the British people left and went back to Britain or stayed and assimilated.
@asnowman8094 Technically it's a matter of Scotland ceding territory to Ireland. The Kingdom of Dal Riata was one of five founding members of Scotland (900ad) and was a Kingdom which originated in 'Ulster/County Antrim' and had invaded the western Scottish coast and islands carving out a territory which spanned the Irish sea. It's the reason Scotland became Scotland rather than Pictland and the beginning of how the four Pictish Kingdoms culturally faded from existance.
@@jimpaddy79 Prior claim to the land. I use the term "technically" as nobody ever makes that claim and yet it's a solid fact. The ancestral people of that region formed a kingdom and united with four other pictish kingdoms to create Scotland bringing all of it's territories into Scotland. A recent massive DNA testing programmed across all of Ireland found there's unique strands which don't appear anywhere else in Ireland from that region which appear only across in Scotland in the footsteps of that old Kingdom on the western coast where those Irish had settled. ps the Average English person has 24% Irish dna, Welsh 22%, Scottish 48% (averages I'd imagine are dragged down by more recent arrivals) The problem has been hundreds of years of religious proxy war being fought out on our fronts. Pps The people of NI are free to choose whatever path they like be it joining with ROI, Staying with UK or setting a path of their own independence.
NI is part of the UK, so yea it does. Only Westminster, which is the government of the UK can approve it. This would be the same as saying a state of the USA could just pull out of the USA because a number of locals wanted it. That is not how it works.
@Zarken26 The citizens of NI decide nobody else. Its not for anyone in England, Wales, or Scotland to decide, which is why when there is a vote, they won't be included in that vote. There will be a vote in the Republic of Ireland and the North of Ireland, if both vote for reunification then it happens.
@@willywonka111 So by this logic if the people of the North Rhine-Westphalia state of Germany and the people of the Netherlands held a vote to combine their territories, the German government and the people of Germany should have zero say in a part of their country just splitting off? That's not how national and international politics works... People who think this way are very idealistic and naive.
@Zarken26 Right, I'll say it in a more simple manner so that you may understand. The British government can't block a referendum on Irish unity. If the people of NI want to have a vote there will be a vote and if the people vote to join the Republic of Ireland there is nothing the UK can do about it. The people in the Republic must also accept the inclusion of the north, which is why there will be a vote in the Republic also. Two separate votes that must pass. There will be no vote held in England, Wales or Scotland and they have no say in it. Say anything you want, but that's the truth.
@@willywonka111 Sigh... Yes they can. I know what you said, but your factually wrong and show a complete ignorance of UK & international law... If your assumption is true then please explain why the SNP cannot just call a new "independence" referendum every year? NI is a constituent nation of the UK, just like England, Scotland & Wales are. Westminster is the national and internationally recognised government of the UK, not Stormont. If Westminster do not authorise a referendum and then secure Royal assent from the current King/Queen of the UK the people in said territory are carrying out a literally insurrection & the politicians involved would be guilty of treason. Go look at how well that ended for the Catalonian nationalists, when they tried to pull off an illegal independence referendum in Spain. Again, your entire premise is idealistic and completely ignorant of national and international politics and law. I explained the rationale using the German and Netherlands example. Its not my fault if you choose to ignore it. Its a FACT that provinces, states, or constituent nations of a country cannot just break off from said nation & betray the current nation for another or go independent just because a group of politicians and people in that territory decide they want to. That is not how it works... If it was the case, then there would be constant wars again because of nations getting p*ssed off with the neighbours constantly trying to annex their territories.
Ireland 🇮🇪 is an independent country isn't it? It's an EU 🇪🇺 member state by choice and from everything I keep hearing it's doing absolutely fantastically. Just ashame the Irish 🇮🇪 people on the ground don't seem to be reaping the rewards of all this wealth.
Tories didn’t care one bit during Brexit talks about Northern Ireland, now they pretend to care 🤦♂️ Like has been agreed previously, it’s up to the people of Northern Ireland to decide their future via referendum if they so choose.
How dare he!! After centuries of colonisation say that.United Ireland amd end of British Rule has always been the goal for Ireland.Has he forgotten history or is he only saying this to keep his job? Politicians has completely forgotten the concept of Democracy- who they represent, Who they work for and who pays their salaries. They must understand that they cannot dictate to anyone what they will or wont do. It's the people who decide!
NI secretary has no say on future of province. It’s solely for the people of NI and of the Republic of Ireland to determine the island’s future. Got it!
We will let you away with that today, because there is a lot of colic and tears in the DUP body politic. Be let's be honest, the days of Tories having their hand on the tiller, are gone.
What a foolish question. Nobody can guarantee that NI will always remain part of the UK. The GFA specifically states that NI will remain part of the UK for so long as the majority of the population desires. Therefore in a purely democratic sense it’s anti democratic to state that NI will “always” remain part of the UK.
Interesting. Mr. Heaton-Harris says he's comfortable that in his lifetime NI will reamain part of the UK. It matters not what Mr Heaton - Harris thinks or more succinctly the thoughts of the MP for South Dorset in his framing of his question which would be far more meaningful during the reign of Her Majesty Queen Victoria. Clearly Mr. Drax needs to give his head a shake with the hope that the result will knock him from his Empirical pedestal to the 21st Century to a time and place where the realization of ascendancy entitlement that ooze from every pore of his colonial countenance will soon expire. And colonial land barons like him that have plagued and destroyed the island of Ireland for more that seven hundred years will be - like Her Majesty Queen Victora be in the past. The gig is up .. and high time.
Why TF would the Republic want Northern Ireland back, in its current state? Wait a generation or two and demographics will make it a more desirable prospect.
This echoes something a friend of mine from the Republic told me recently. Many Irish citizens (though not him personally) would oppose reunification on the practical grounds that NI is just too much of an economic liability, and that's before getting to the sectarian aspect. That said, in time I can see NI becoming relatively prosperous, owing to its unique post-Brexit status.
@@ryan555.3 not disputing that. Btw I'm Scottish and pro Scottish independence, and despite all the issues I'd still bet on Irish reunification happening before Scottish indy.
When will they finally offer England 🏴 and independence referendum. Everyone keeps going on about NI and Scotland 🏴 but we still haven't been asked? They should be asking England 🏴. I'd vote Yes in heartbeat. We all need independence tbh it's the only way.
Well, given that this guys command of english is so poor that he does not understand what majority means, perhaps he should put himself forward for Rwanda.
The future of Northern Ireland being discussed in a 95% empty Commons Chamber. In the UK, it's a government department with it's affairs being debated, outside Select Committees, in between appearances by the ministers of 'Transport' and 'Culture, Media and Sport' The Unionist and Alliance MP's have to wait their turn or catch the eye of the Speaker during Prime Ministers Questions. Doesn't NI deserve to be more than this?
@@ExtraBritish 😆😆😆😆 Clearly, you do not know either or the difference between a constitutional monarchy and a democratic republic. A true democratic republic is a more democratic and fairer system to the people, than a constitutional monarchy.
Northern Ireland is enjoying the best of both worlds. So don't think they should enjoy such privilege without any restrictions. Otherwise, Brexit is just a waste of everything.
@@jackdubz4247Most of NI trade stays in the UK even after the bad brexit deal messing up the Irish Sea customs border. People are moving in large numbers from the republic to NI, not the other way around because they see NI and the UK as preferable to the republic and EU.
@@MENSA.lady2 Didn't NI vote to remain in the EU, what your saying makes no sens,e ROI wants to remain in EU NI voted to remain in EU so why would ROI have to leave EU for reunification.
@@jimpaddy79NI would need to leave the UK. Which so far they have voted not to do. The danger of the troubles 2.0 is also rather high if all the unionists are suddenly forced to leave the UK and join the Irish Republic. But hey, at least it won't be the IRA bombing kids on the mainland this time
What on earth are you talking about, ROI has its problems like every country does but by every metric of quality of life and human development ROI is better then the UK and better then the years after 2008.
@@jimpaddy79 I think what this Luas Burner is trying to say is that immigrants to Ireland are being treated better by the government than people who are ethnically Irish. Which by any measurable statistic is incorrect. Irish people for hundreds of years have emigrated to other countries where we were welcomed to varying degrees. I would have hoped that as a nation we could have learned from this and greet immigrants to our own country the way we would like for our ancestors to have been. However, this is not the case. @dvrn86 is making a racist comment and I urge others to report their comment as it is the subtle festering of statements like this that are not obviously xenophobic on first reading that allow this hateful ideology to grow and metastasize and ruin Ireland.
There's a lot of things in play to include what the whole of Ireland wants to be. The Britain some of these guys are trying to stay attached to is a moving target. The European Union a lot of the Irish are trying to attach to is a moving target.Both the Irish and Lowland Scots-Irish of the North have principles and values each other can share. The situation is too fluid for playing old hands if the card game is evolving.
He doesn’t sound like he believes his own words, besides never say “not in my lifetime” he could die next week, nobody knows when the end comes, but it comes for everyone..
I hope and pay the best for Northern Ireland. I wish the new re-form of government works excellent for the country and its people and for UK and I can’t wait to visit. From there, go to Scotland!
I hope that Unionists will see under Michelle O' Neill that the betterment of all people in Northen Ireland is the Fundamental goal here as it always has been. We don't hold Grudges with People in this Country who want a better future. I hope that people in the North are at least given a Referendum on EU membership. We don't wish to be part of your Union but we want what is best for all
There are currently two parts of the island of Ireland. Ireland, the larger part, consists of 26 counties out of 32 and is a member of the EU. Its population is about the same size as each of Denmark and Finland, and just as these two countries don't want to join the UK, neither does Ireland.
Very many in the Republic hope NI stays in the UK, we can’t afford NI, we have enough brutal politicians as it is & NI should a special economic zone benefitting both states. A merger of NI into ROI would be a disaster. Loyalists have the IRA template to use.
southern Ireland that formed to be the republic or Ireland shouldn't have broken away it has caused problems where the united kingdom is missing a part of itself. UK should have fought to keep the country united. UK is poorer without entire Ireland. people from republic of Ireland join the British military, they come and work in the united kingdom, united kingdom secures republic or Ireland air space, the UK bails out Ireland when it needs help the list goes on. Yet there is this hatred that persists from some in Ireland.
@@odunadhaighIreland has poor defense capabilities, last December when a Russian submarine violated Ireland’s territorial waters, they called the UK Navy to intercept and scare it away. Plus the UK contributed to the international bailout after Ireland was struggling to pay its loans during the Great Recession.
@@odunadhaighLatest was in 2015 when UK bailed out Ireland with a huge loan at preferential interest rate. Organised by the Chancellor George Osborne who is Anglo Irish.
@@ds1868 A loan is not a bailout. The loan had an interest rate advantageous both to the UK and Ireland. When Ireland offered to repay the loan earlier, it was refused because the UK had factored into the loan the benefit to the UK of the interest that it would acquire. Thus, not remotely a bailout, but commercial self-interest in regard to the lender. Given that you cite this 'bailout' as the 'latest', what are some of the other 'bailouts'?
@@thl205 "they called the UK Navy " What is the evidence that Ireland 'called the UK navy', rather than the UK choosing to provide this 'assistance', for reasons of self-interest. The Royal Navy doesn't respond to instructions from other countries. The UK’s assistance to Ireland at the time of the banking crisis, was in a form of a loan whose interest rate was advantageous to the UK. Thus when Ireland offered early repayment, such repayment was refused because the UK would lose the valuable interest that motivated the loan in the first place. A quasi-commercial loan is not a bailout.
Ireland is a distinctly different country from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and, due to assiduous efforts over the last hundred years to reduce its dependency on the UK, the value of its exports to the UK is now less than 10%. It exports more by value to Belgium than it does to the UK. None of Ireland's existing difficulties (climate change etc) would be ameliorated by its joining the UK, and many new difficulties would emerge, if it found itself in that unfortunate position.
Wouldn't the timetable for the possible reunification of the island of Ireland be a matter for the people of the island to decide?
Technically it's a matter of Scotland ceding territory to Ireland.
The Kingdom of Dal Riata was one of five founding members of Scotland (900ad) and was a Kingdom which originated in 'Ulster/County Antrim' and had invaded the western Scottish coast and islands carving out a territory which spanned the Irish sea. It's the reason Scotland became Scotland rather than Pictland and the beginning of how the four Pictish Kingdoms culturally faded from existance.
@@asnowman8094 Or Ireland letting Scotland go perhaps 🤔
Yes, the people of Ireland will decide
@@eoghangreene5728you mean people of Northern Ireland..
@@REX4340na Ireland pal
His lifetime is not in his own hands 😊
Init
Us english have as much of a right occupying the 6 counties as we did the rest of the 26 counties of IRELAND
i.e NO RIGHT AT ALL
They shouldn’t be in England.
'Not in my lifetime'. A case of careful what you wish for.
"you have to be lucky every time, we have to be lucky once"
IRA: Well actually we're all just tickled to hear you say that!"
'Not in my lifetime" ... It may just be another case of saying what needs to be said right now to silence the weeins, and reduce the rattly-out-of-the-prams-throwing that the Right wing British Islanders and/or D political wing U the loyalist P aramilitaries do be spending much of their time at, since Europe/US introduced the notion of equality into the theater of Irish colonization project, and then started to legally enforce equality in the north east of ireland relatively recently (circa 1971 onwards). These remarks in the house, and what they represent, whether genuinely stated or otherwise, is exemplification of why anyone would be well advised to be deeply distrusting of Sir P. Albion Esquire.
I say this as a english person, but he as an english person needs to shut his gob on this issue because it is not for him to decide or predict as someone who isn't Irish , even if he is the 'secretary of northern ireland'
He exhibits the same arrogant attitude to Ireland that the English establishment has had for centuries and hence the current and past difficulties.
Not for the Irish to decide either what's your point?
Surely the break up of the UK has relevance to UK citizens?
@@ralphdavidson9542 perhaps, but northern irelands right to self decision superceeds any concern of this, especialy since northern Ireland is probably the least connected, psychologically and physically
@@zxgeorger If the people of North Ireland decide to leave the UK then the Irish in Ireland (south) also get to have a referendum on potential Irish unification. Complicated place is Ireland and totally misunderstood by the vast majority of people in G.B. Whatever the future brings Irish unification is a certainty demographics, economics and the tide of history all point this way.
That's not fro him to decide
He is asserting the right, as an Englishman, to decide for the Irish.
England should annex Eire
@@user-ug8wx5er1w see that they do. They'll become the new Atlantis!
How long do you intend to live?
It for the People of Northern Ireland, not for politicians to determine the fate of Northern Ireland.
For the people of all of Ireland to decide.
Wish it were true, try telling the politicians
Should Northern Ireland wish to join with Ireland to form a united Ireland, then it's for the people of both Northern Ireland and also of Ireland to decide, in two separate referenda, one in each of these two jurisdictions.
@@odunadhaigh*northern ireland and republic of ireland. "Ireland" on its own refers to all 32 counties
Article 4 of the constitution says that the name of the state is Ireland in the English language, and Éire in the Irish language. So the 26 counties that form the larger jurisdiction on the island of Ireland is called Ireland, and the 6 counties that forms the smaller jurisdiction is called Northern Ireland. Republic of Ireland or the Republic or ROI are often used in an every day way to refer to the 26 county part.
It is specifically this mentality that is making unification all the more certain. I've never had a unionist actually try to sell the union to me as nationalist. It's always "it's never gonna happen" "NI is british"..what are the benefits? Austerity, underfunding, social deprivation, a health service not fit for purpose (but its ok because its free). We can do better 👌
All those downsides, yet at great expense to the British taxpayer when there are social problems on a much greater scale in Britain in need of public funds. Nobody wins under the current arrangements.
Northern Ireland is funded by the Mainland tax payers for a start. Eire doesn't want the bill, so status quo.
@@ralphdavidson9542 people in NI pay taxes all the same as the 'mainland'. The idea that the south don't want the north in its current form is probably true, however I refuse to believe that NI is just an unwanted bill, as if we don't have the potential to have a productive economy? Why not? An all island approach would be beneficial, especially with the backing of the EU who would not wish to see a unified Ireland fail.
@@ralphdavidson9542Irish government already spends part of its budget on the north. So what you've said clearly isn't true 😂😏
"Not in my lifetime."
Well, that can be arranged.
His lifetime would not be much of an obstacle in some quarters.
@bernardfitzsimons6942are they..?
@@adamryan19 It is not, just that person is a coward and only talks tough inside the safe, protected halls government buildings. He wouldn't say that alone in rest of Ireland 🤣
Get... out.
Nah
These people have no say in Ireland’s affairs, Ireland will be united with the rest of EIRE make no mistake about it🇮🇪
I don’t think so. No surrender 🇬🇧💪
The only mistake is Nationalists banging on about it when it isn't a given. Nothing is guaranteed and a referendum will have to be done to get the answer.
@@Atomic568 Hilarious. Please tell me that you are joking.
I agree, but romance aside....there may well be some proper aggro from the loyalist hardliners.
@@anglomandingo666bring it on we can’t live in fear of these people they never cared how we felt
Someone skimmed the GFA a bit too quickly !
As an English person, most of us don’t care and can see the obvious fact that NI belongs to Ireland, why don’t all these unionists just come to live in England
"why don't all these unionists just come to live in England" I suppose it's for the same reason as people in each of Scotland, England and Wales want to stay in their own respective part of the UK, and have no great affection for the other parts; for instance most English people don't want to made to up sticks and go and live in Scotland, or Northern Ireland. As I understand it, most of the unionists similarly have no wish to live in any of England, Wales or Scotland. They generally just want to live in Northern Ireland, the part of the UK to which they belong, and where their friends and relatives are. It seems to me that most British people just want to stay in the part of the UK to which they belong.
@@odunadhaigh you say this like it's "they just want to live there" and not "they started a war which killed thousands for their own political and financial gain by using fear and death squad paramilitaries to keep British people in line and to keep the native population as a second class"
Pretty sure when the British lost the USA or India the British people left and went back to Britain or stayed and assimilated.
"Give Ireland Back to the Irish" - Paul McCartney
No
@asnowman8094
Technically it's a matter of Scotland ceding territory to Ireland.
The Kingdom of Dal Riata was one of five founding members of Scotland (900ad) and was a Kingdom which originated in 'Ulster/County Antrim' and had invaded the western Scottish coast and islands carving out a territory which spanned the Irish sea. It's the reason Scotland became Scotland rather than Pictland and the beginning of how the four Pictish Kingdoms culturally faded from existance.
@@asnowman8094 it what way is it "Technically" what you saying is trivia not technical
@@jimpaddy79 Prior claim to the land. I use the term "technically" as nobody ever makes that claim and yet it's a solid fact.
The ancestral people of that region formed a kingdom and united with four other pictish kingdoms to create Scotland bringing all of it's territories into Scotland.
A recent massive DNA testing programmed across all of Ireland found there's unique strands which don't appear anywhere else in Ireland from that region which appear only across in Scotland in the footsteps of that old Kingdom on the western coast where those Irish had settled.
ps the Average English person has 24% Irish dna, Welsh 22%, Scottish 48% (averages I'd imagine are dragged down by more recent arrivals) The problem has been hundreds of years of religious proxy war being fought out on our fronts.
Pps The people of NI are free to choose whatever path they like be it joining with ROI, Staying with UK or setting a path of their own independence.
@@asnowman8094 What a rich history we all share 😁
Surely it’s for the Irish to decide? No for two Englishmen? Crazy situation.
NI is part of the UK, so yea it does. Only Westminster, which is the government of the UK can approve it. This would be the same as saying a state of the USA could just pull out of the USA because a number of locals wanted it. That is not how it works.
@Zarken26 The citizens of NI decide nobody else. Its not for anyone in England, Wales, or Scotland to decide, which is why when there is a vote, they won't be included in that vote.
There will be a vote in the Republic of Ireland and the North of Ireland, if both vote for reunification then it happens.
@@willywonka111 So by this logic if the people of the North Rhine-Westphalia state of Germany and the people of the Netherlands held a vote to combine their territories, the German government and the people of Germany should have zero say in a part of their country just splitting off?
That's not how national and international politics works... People who think this way are very idealistic and naive.
@Zarken26 Right, I'll say it in a more simple manner so that you may understand.
The British government can't block a referendum on Irish unity. If the people of NI want to have a vote there will be a vote and if the people vote to join the Republic of Ireland there is nothing the UK can do about it.
The people in the Republic must also accept the inclusion of the north, which is why there will be a vote in the Republic also. Two separate votes that must pass.
There will be no vote held in England, Wales or Scotland and they have no say in it. Say anything you want, but that's the truth.
@@willywonka111 Sigh... Yes they can. I know what you said, but your factually wrong and show a complete ignorance of UK & international law... If your assumption is true then please explain why the SNP cannot just call a new "independence" referendum every year?
NI is a constituent nation of the UK, just like England, Scotland & Wales are. Westminster is the national and internationally recognised government of the UK, not Stormont. If Westminster do not authorise a referendum and then secure Royal assent from the current King/Queen of the UK the people in said territory are carrying out a literally insurrection & the politicians involved would be guilty of treason. Go look at how well that ended for the Catalonian nationalists, when they tried to pull off an illegal independence referendum in Spain.
Again, your entire premise is idealistic and completely ignorant of national and international politics and law.
I explained the rationale using the German and Netherlands example. Its not my fault if you choose to ignore it. Its a FACT that provinces, states, or constituent nations of a country cannot just break off from said nation & betray the current nation for another or go independent just because a group of politicians and people in that territory decide they want to. That is not how it works...
If it was the case, then there would be constant wars again because of nations getting p*ssed off with the neighbours constantly trying to annex their territories.
Ireland needs it's own independence
Don't be ridiculous, it's a Republic and fully independant.
Ireland has its own independence. Northern Ireland is part of the UK just like England, Scotland and wales.
Ireland 🇮🇪 is an independent country isn't it? It's an EU 🇪🇺 member state by choice and from everything I keep hearing it's doing absolutely fantastically. Just ashame the Irish 🇮🇪 people on the ground don't seem to be reaping the rewards of all this wealth.
@@hey12542 doing fantastic? They're currently protesting their own government 🤣
From the EU??
In his lifetime, sorry sir you look as though you could croak it at any moment. Silence tory, 26+6=1, we will have our united Ireland, soon
It’s for the people of Northern Ireland to decide.
Tories didn’t care one bit during Brexit talks about Northern Ireland, now they pretend to care 🤦♂️
Like has been agreed previously, it’s up to the people of Northern Ireland to decide their future via referendum if they so choose.
The are is awful
How dare he!!
After centuries of colonisation say that.United Ireland amd end of British Rule has always been the goal for Ireland.Has he forgotten history or is he only saying this to keep his job?
Politicians has completely forgotten the concept of Democracy- who they represent,
Who they work for and who pays their salaries.
They must understand that they cannot dictate to anyone what they will or wont do.
It's the people who decide!
Irish independence is inevitable, in my lifetime, and Chris Eaton Harris'
The British who aren't from Northern Ireland have no say on Northern Ireland's future, only the people of Northern Ireland can decide their future.
It's time for reunification!
NI secretary has no say on future of province. It’s solely for the people of NI and of the Republic of Ireland to determine the island’s future. Got it!
North Ireland 🇮🇪 belongs to Ireland 🇮🇪 .not brits planters this belongs to Ireland 🇮🇪...
Obviously not an Ulsterman then. He happily thinks it belongs to the UK. Not so easy is it?
The people will decide.
We will let you away with that today, because there is a lot of colic and tears in the DUP body politic. Be let's be honest, the days of Tories having their hand on the tiller, are gone.
All it takes is 50 percent plus 1 vote and ireland is finally free from foreign rule
is Ireland having a vote on its EU membership?
‘The Irish Unification of 2024”
🖖
No
What a foolish question. Nobody can guarantee that NI will always remain part of the UK. The GFA specifically states that NI will remain part of the UK for so long as the majority of the population desires. Therefore in a purely democratic sense it’s anti democratic to state that NI will “always” remain part of the UK.
The problem is, the south doesn't want to unify with the north.
The NI Secretary should maybe check out up to date demographics.
Interesting. Mr. Heaton-Harris says he's comfortable that in his lifetime NI will reamain part of the UK. It matters not what Mr Heaton - Harris thinks or more succinctly the thoughts of the MP for South Dorset in his framing of his question which would be far more meaningful during the reign of Her Majesty Queen Victoria. Clearly Mr. Drax needs to give his head a shake with the hope that the result will knock him from his Empirical pedestal to the 21st Century to a time and place where the realization of ascendancy entitlement that ooze from every pore of his colonial countenance will soon expire. And colonial land barons like him that have plagued and destroyed the island of Ireland for more that seven hundred years will be - like Her Majesty Queen Victora be in the past. The gig is up .. and high time.
That's what Ian Smith said. I'll give it 3 weeks then then North will join the South.
Came here looking for this parallel.
Irish Reunification ❤. It's up to the people in NI to decide and not you! Who are you truly representing?
Title of the video is basically asking for a wee Tiocfaidh ár lá
United Ireland. Can't be too much longer now :)
Give it back to the Irish. If the DUP don't like it, they should move back to Scotland
Agreed, although I think the DUP's spiritual home is closer to South East England than Scotland.
Give your slavery money back Richard Drax
The people of the island of ireland will be the diciders of unification or not. Not one English politician will be needed
Believe the Uk hahaha what a joke
Ireland Forever!
A UNITED Ireland!!
Viva Ireland!!!
This guy has nothing but contempt for the Irish. We dont want him anywhere near OUR country. United Ireland is on the way 🇮🇪
Why TF would the Republic want Northern Ireland back, in its current state? Wait a generation or two and demographics will make it a more desirable prospect.
This echoes something a friend of mine from the Republic told me recently. Many Irish citizens (though not him personally) would oppose reunification on the practical grounds that NI is just too much of an economic liability, and that's before getting to the sectarian aspect. That said, in time I can see NI becoming relatively prosperous, owing to its unique post-Brexit status.
Their grandfathers and their grandfathers died fighting for a free Ireland.
The three main parties in the south are all dedicated to Irish unity.
@@ryan555.3 I get that - but waiting a bit longer, until it's got fewer Unionists in it and, therefore, less division, has to be worth a go.
@@ryan555.3 not disputing that. Btw I'm Scottish and pro Scottish independence, and despite all the issues I'd still bet on Irish reunification happening before Scottish indy.
When will they finally offer England 🏴 and independence referendum. Everyone keeps going on about NI and Scotland 🏴 but we still haven't been asked? They should be asking England 🏴. I'd vote Yes in heartbeat. We all need independence tbh it's the only way.
He just won a free car.
Why does the Guardian allow comments on this yet not on Sturgeon at Covid Inquiry?? Tossers
They are far-left
What a difference a colour makes🦕🇦🇺🇮🇪
Brave thing to say in Ireland
Classic british always separated other countries
Long live Ireland 💚🤍🧡
In other words, we refuse to give up our plunder
Colianalism is strong on this one.
Well, given that this guys command of english is so poor that he does not understand what majority means, perhaps he should put himself forward for Rwanda.
All countries should be treated equal. The Irish are forgotten.
The future of Northern Ireland being discussed in a 95% empty Commons Chamber. In the UK, it's a government department with it's affairs being debated, outside Select Committees, in between appearances by the ministers of 'Transport' and 'Culture, Media and Sport' The Unionist and Alliance MP's have to wait their turn or catch the eye of the Speaker during Prime Ministers Questions. Doesn't NI deserve to be more than this?
"We depend on continuing our theft from Ireland"
Chris must not be planning on living for long more!.
Other than the whole of Ireland being re-united, hopefully soon the UK will change from a constitutional monarchy to a true democratic republic.
And stop colonial bs
I swear people have no clue what a constitutional monarcy even is 😂😂
@@ExtraBritish 😆😆😆😆 Clearly, you do not know either or the difference between a constitutional monarchy and a democratic republic. A true democratic republic is a more democratic and fairer system to the people, than a constitutional monarchy.
@@Raj_Luthra do you live in the uk?
@@ExtraBritish Yes, I do. Do you live in the UK?
Hahahaha from Dublin 32🇮🇪🇪🇺 Richard Drax hahahahahaha
*One Island, One Ireland* 🇮🇪
Northern Ireland is enjoying the best of both worlds. So don't think they should enjoy such privilege without any restrictions. Otherwise, Brexit is just a waste of everything.
There's very little benefit being in the UK. The privilege comes from having access to the EU.
Brexit always has been a very expensive waste of time- the politicians who argued for it lied through their teeth to get that vote
@@jackdubz4247Most of NI trade stays in the UK even after the bad brexit deal messing up the Irish Sea customs border. People are moving in large numbers from the republic to NI, not the other way around because they see NI and the UK as preferable to the republic and EU.
Such a strain on the British taxpayer.
England out of Ireland🇮🇪
Ireland out of Nothern Ireland.
Nah
@@NordieJ and what just make it northern?😂😂😂
@@Irishman0855same as what makes North Korea north
Nope 🖕
He has to say that, otherwise the deals would fall through. It's coming.
Not impossible but I doubt the ROI is in a rush to leave the EU
ROI would not leave EU, NI would rejoin EU
That would require NI to leave the UK, something neither NI or the UK want.
@@MENSA.lady2 Based on what? It's up to the people of Ireland. North and South. Not the English sitting in London.
@@MENSA.lady2 Didn't NI vote to remain in the EU, what your saying makes no sens,e ROI wants to remain in EU NI voted to remain in EU so why would ROI have to leave EU for reunification.
@@jimpaddy79NI would need to leave the UK. Which so far they have voted not to do. The danger of the troubles 2.0 is also rather high if all the unionists are suddenly forced to leave the UK and join the Irish Republic. But hey, at least it won't be the IRA bombing kids on the mainland this time
The way the republic is being run atm is really not helping with reunification. Irishman is a second class citizen again.
What on earth are you talking about, ROI has its problems like every country does but by every metric of quality of life and human development ROI is better then the UK and better then the years after 2008.
@@jimpaddy79 I think what this Luas Burner is trying to say is that immigrants to Ireland are being treated better by the government than people who are ethnically Irish. Which by any measurable statistic is incorrect. Irish people for hundreds of years have emigrated to other countries where we were welcomed to varying degrees. I would have hoped that as a nation we could have learned from this and greet immigrants to our own country the way we would like for our ancestors to have been. However, this is not the case. @dvrn86 is making a racist comment and I urge others to report their comment as it is the subtle festering of statements like this that are not obviously xenophobic on first reading that allow this hateful ideology to grow and metastasize and ruin Ireland.
@@e40915 I'm also guessing this Luas burner thinks that electing a juiced-up Conor McGregor on the sniff will fix everything.
Let's all hope for a short lifetime
At what point does he say "Not in my lifetime"?
Ireland belongs to the Irish
not while he is alive?
i guess the irish people can accept that!
There's a lot of things in play to include what the whole of Ireland wants to be. The Britain some of these guys are trying to stay attached to is a moving target. The European Union a lot of the Irish are trying to attach to is a moving target.Both the Irish and Lowland Scots-Irish of the North have principles and values each other can share. The situation is too fluid for playing old hands if the card game is evolving.
It's not up to you at all but the people of Ireland North and South
Hello Brits - The union is over
Your walls can't support each other, big changes coming
He doesn’t sound like he believes his own words, besides never say “not in my lifetime” he could die next week, nobody knows when the end comes, but it comes for everyone..
LONG LIVE KING BILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
King Billy's been dead for centuries!
Hey, Lt. Data said it will be, so it will be so.
Be careful what you wish for...
He has no idea whatsoever 😂😂
No SURRENDER ☘️🇬🇧👍
I hope and pay the best for Northern Ireland.
I wish the new re-form of government works excellent for the country and its people and for UK and I can’t wait to visit. From there, go to Scotland!
I hope that Unionists will see under Michelle O' Neill that the betterment of all people in Northen Ireland is the Fundamental goal here as it always has been. We don't hold Grudges with People in this Country who want a better future. I hope that people in the North are at least given a Referendum on EU membership. We don't wish to be part of your Union but we want what is best for all
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We. 😱🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴😱. Are you divided by ur. K. C. 3. And the. 🏴🏴😱😱😱. Saudi. England. Bank of. Momey. Money 😊
I will give it 20 years.
Ireland needs a vote to join the UK.
...said no Irish person ever.
UK needs to vote to join Ireland under the Celtic nations package deal
I'd vote for it, maybe then we've get our cities done up like London and some skyscrapers and an underground
I mean its not like we're a completely different culture thats speaks our own language or anything. I'm not even being sarcastic.
@@Seamus-qk7qt irish people speak English 🤣
Ireland is going to leave the EU
Why would we do that?
What if United Ireland becomes another country within the UK?
Everyone gets what they wanted: Ireland is Ireland united and Ireland is part of the UK
Ireland doesn't want anything to do with England, that's why that would never work 😅
I'd vote for that.
You may want to watch any video called Irish History or why the Irish fought for independence for 800 years, etc.
There are currently two parts of the island of Ireland. Ireland, the larger part, consists of 26 counties out of 32 and is a member of the EU. Its population is about the same size as each of Denmark and Finland, and just as these two countries don't want to join the UK, neither does Ireland.
Yes man us Irish want to join back after 800 years of oppression and hardship 👍
Very many in the Republic hope NI stays in the UK, we can’t afford NI, we have enough brutal politicians as it is & NI should a special economic zone benefitting both states. A merger of NI into ROI would be a disaster.
Loyalists have the IRA template to use.
Those who wish NI stays in the UK, are happy to hold stolen land ,a disgrace
southern Ireland that formed to be the republic or Ireland shouldn't have broken away it has caused problems where the united kingdom is missing a part of itself. UK should have fought to keep the country united. UK is poorer without entire Ireland. people from republic of Ireland join the British military, they come and work in the united kingdom, united kingdom secures republic or Ireland air space, the UK bails out Ireland when it needs help the list goes on. Yet there is this hatred that persists from some in Ireland.
I quote " the UK bails out Ireland when it needs help". When did that happen?
@@odunadhaighIreland has poor defense capabilities, last December when a Russian submarine violated Ireland’s territorial waters, they called the UK Navy to intercept and scare it away.
Plus the UK contributed to the international bailout after Ireland was struggling to pay its loans during the Great Recession.
@@odunadhaighLatest was in 2015 when UK bailed out Ireland with a huge loan at preferential interest rate. Organised by the Chancellor George Osborne who is Anglo Irish.
@@ds1868 A loan is not a bailout. The loan had an interest rate advantageous both to the UK and Ireland. When Ireland offered to repay the loan earlier, it was refused because the UK had factored into the loan the benefit to the UK of the interest that it would acquire. Thus, not remotely a bailout, but commercial self-interest in regard to the lender. Given that you cite this 'bailout' as the 'latest', what are some of the other 'bailouts'?
@@thl205 "they called the UK Navy " What is the evidence that Ireland 'called the UK navy', rather than the UK choosing to provide this 'assistance', for reasons of self-interest. The Royal Navy doesn't respond to instructions from other countries.
The UK’s assistance to Ireland at the time of the banking crisis, was in a form of a loan whose interest rate was advantageous to the UK. Thus when Ireland offered early repayment, such repayment was refused because the UK would lose the valuable interest that motivated the loan in the first place. A quasi-commercial loan is not a bailout.
If the Republic of Ireland would just jion the union things would be a lot easier.
Ireland is a distinctly different country from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and, due to assiduous efforts over the last hundred years to reduce its dependency on the UK, the value of its exports to the UK is now less than 10%. It exports more by value to Belgium than it does to the UK. None of Ireland's existing difficulties (climate change etc) would be ameliorated by its joining the UK, and many new difficulties would emerge, if it found itself in that unfortunate position.
Not a chance.
No thanks.
We're already in a bigger and better Union 🇪🇺
So is he saying he won’t be alive in the next 10 years?
At this rate, he'll die before the year is out.
It will be. Here. Tomorrow. When. Tomorrow. Meats the. Day of my. Birth. . Www. Barabara. Windsor. 💞💞💞💞💞
It's not up to him