I’m really starting to understand why the W221 was the best before it started taking the slippery slope downhill. The W222 wasn’t that bad but you could see where things were headed and now the W223 is just cringe.
@@h2oaddict that’s what I’m saying. They increase the price a lot from the w221. Yeah the tech got better but gone are the metal switch gear and machined parts replaced with plastic and glass. It’s honestly depressing. Minimalism Is the downfall of beauty in car interiors.
I don’t see where the W222 was downhill- especially in pre facelift form. Post facelift some cost cutting was apparent ie. door mechanism, metal pieces removed from electric sunroof covers, no metal trunk sill finisher on V6 models
@@esteban75lover23 I wasn't saying the W222 was the start or things going downhill. Rather more along the lines how MB was getting focused on tech and gadgets and some gimmicks instead of focusing purely on luxury. The W222 was a good car my grandfather had both pre facelift and facelift and the facelift did fix most of the flaws on the W222 platform. But the W222 was a good preview on were things where headed on W223 giving its massive focus on tech over quality.
@@RiomalSure I admit I haven’t but from what I’ve seen it doesn’t look as premium as its predecessor or other luxury cars that aren’t as in your face with technology.
@@Peter-mj6lz so it is the same as would try to describe a taste o thing which you have never tasted :) most of the people just hate becouse they cannot afford it and maintain. It os a great car with pros and cons but theres no perfect car. In my opinion the cons: its hard to close the door if you ar short and you have opened them too wide, i would add phisical buttons at least 4-6, tank could be 100L. The rest is just great.
I worked on a MB dealership here on Spain, and a lot of customers that changed their w221 to a w222, it wanted back their 221, because it has better ride confort and better quality and silent. And I can confirm that is true
I watched all your videos in a three hours go and loved them. I am an Audi guy but respected your unbiased thoughts about Mercedes, Audi and Bmw. You got me subbed 🔥
Love all your vids ❤ and yes I am waiting for my S580 (223) due to arrive in couple weeks. P/S I am certainly not going to check on all the “problems” you pointed out 😅
Love your videos Daniel. I started with the W220 videos and then got one. Loved it. moved into the Mercedes W221 S550 after, and honestly there are things in the w220 which are better made. Fuel filler cap was metal for example. And many more little details that prove the W220 was not a bad car. Mine was preface lift. Never had a warning light on. Like the W221 - more powerful but as they go on these S classes they loose something along the way. I've had every S from 1963 to 2010, and some multiple times over. In order to accommodate the tech and price of all that added computing power, we see cheap door straps, rubber door surrounds, lots of hidden cost cutting. You only have to go to a scrapyard to really see how they were built.................
You've has every generation of S Class? Would you be willing to rank them? Here's my main question: the gaps and seems and other quality issues that the video points out weren't there in older S Classes? Is that really true? I know the original S Class was built like a vault but it was built with 60-year-old methods. The new one is really inferior to the original?
@@joshharrison1160 Most will agree that the peak of build quality was the W140. These cars lack a lot of the modern electronic features but the build quality is exceptional.
There is one bad thing on these that no one talks about. When you close the doors, the force required to actually slam them shut sends reverberations through the cabin. So the slam sounds cool from the outside, but on the inside, it can hurt your ears.
Daniel, you are like father to me 😭. Your video style is always so awesome. On a side-note, its crazy to see how low flimsy quality these luxury cars have become. I bought my 2007 Lexus LS460 for $22K AUD before tax almost two years ago from a rich family with multiple new LS's and Mercedes and the quality of my car seems to be better than this. Thank you for your service sir and Ill see you in the next one :)
@@DanielKon15 the 70s diesels with the inline 5s and 6s you can find them from 2-20k in California. They have a lot of ground clearance and vacuum lines. I think they are good for someone with not much money. I think they also came in gas
The reality is the Mercedes S class has had to move with the times - people don't buy these vehicles to last them two decades: they are disposable (just like a Tesla) with a lot of tech that will be obsolete in five years. Who the hell will want the headache of owning one of these in ten years? Most of them will end up in scrap yards. It's just not economically viable to build them to Rolls-Royce quality.
Do your really think someone with a Rolls-Royce will keep it for 10 years? Someone with that type of money would not like an outdated car. S Class is the best luxury car in its segment. The BMW 7 series has the ugliest design I've ever seen. BMW has never been able to keep up with the Mercedes S-Class. They call themselves the ultimate driving machine, but they are now the ultimate ugly flop.
I can’t believe that it has no analog clock in the middle… that’s a big no no from my side. This clock is very important. It’s a shame they got rid of it. Now s class has nothing timeless about it.
@@DanielKon15 Lol cute reply but you clearly went back and showed the W223 rear before showing that closeup of another car, but in a similar color while saying “You can see things you’re not supposed to see.” Totally misleading. Which calls to question what else might have been doctored, what other parts of the W223 were damaged for the video. And speaking of the S550’s rear, those gaps were perfectly aligned lol, it was lying right over the footage.😂
@@DanielKon15 would be an interesting video if you would dig into why Mercedes has chosen to go with a hybrid setup with their engines when manufacturers like BMW have achieved better fuel econ results with their straight 6 turbo engines such as their b58/s58? I can't for the life of me understand why Mercedes would go the hybrid route when it means less MPG and very marginal gain in performance at the sacrifice of weight and chassis balance.
S-class has been on a decline since W140. The build quality of this s-class is objectively worse than BMW E90, which had felt window sill lining inside and real metal trims. (if it looked metallic, it was metal). Material quality in W222 wasn't much better either. Thin stuff all around. It just did a better job hiding it. W223? It's not even trying to hide it.
I think they purposely lowered QC. VW Group law suits, current global economy and supply chain shock. Funds going into EV R&D. Even the EQS is a design slop. I've seen maybe 1 EQS on the road in a town that loves Mercs. I guess they love there Yachts a bit more.
Daniel, I agree Mercedes should hire you as their refinement chief. Btw The waffle pattern seats will look so dated only few years from now. Party trick design gone kitch!
S class is the best sedan car ever . You don’t know what you are talking about . If you are so reach go by rolls Royce if you can afford $700K . S class is only $130k to $140 K . I owned S class mercedes since 30 years ago , at the same time own many other foreign and domestic . Still S class is #1
i have a 2022 W223 - it’s garbage. loaded with quality problems and failing electronics. does it have cool features and some really nice design elements? - for sure. but overall it’s a lemon. i’ve had 2 W221s and 1 W222 - all three were amazing. but this generation is a SHIT car.
This is the only S class that doesn't thrill me, its all wiz-bang screens and useless distracting tech. Previous model is way classier.
It doesn’t have that look they screams crime pays…. What so ever,…
@@BOSSofLA Sobur a Criminal 😊
I was wondering where you stood on this newest S-Class. Now we know.
Tesla owners looking at the panel gaps and thinking this is perfection :D
It's always an amazing day when Daniel Kon uploads
I’m really starting to understand why the W221 was the best before it started taking the slippery slope downhill. The W222 wasn’t that bad but you could see where things were headed and now the W223 is just cringe.
I wonder how much money they're pocketing by just getting rid of the buttons and gauge cluster.
@@h2oaddict that’s what I’m saying. They increase the price a lot from the w221. Yeah the tech got better but gone are the metal switch gear and machined parts replaced with plastic and glass. It’s honestly depressing. Minimalism Is the downfall of beauty in car interiors.
I don’t see where the W222 was downhill- especially in pre facelift form. Post facelift some cost cutting was apparent ie. door mechanism, metal pieces removed from electric sunroof covers, no metal trunk sill finisher on V6 models
@@esteban75lover23 I wasn't saying the W222 was the start or things going downhill. Rather more along the lines how MB was getting focused on tech and gadgets and some gimmicks instead of focusing purely on luxury. The W222 was a good car my grandfather had both pre facelift and facelift and the facelift did fix most of the flaws on the W222 platform. But the W222 was a good preview on were things where headed on W223 giving its massive focus on tech over quality.
@@h2oaddict100% a digital screen would be so much less in R&D
I can't believe my eyes, or my ears! Thank you, Daniel Kon.
This is all very sad but eye opening.
That crooked stitching is straight up unacceptable. I'm shocked they approved this for protection 🤡
Hey, man. Looking forward for your video of S-class as well. I think it'd do okay tho
@@seddam hope to get my hands on one soon
I'm protected.
10,500 subs.
99% of yall are w220 fans and that is how you found Daniel.
Say it aint so...
Best in class S Class review as always, no quality issues here. More please!
They spent too much on the electronics that they forgot about the luxury experience an s class is meant to give.
I doubt you have ever sit in one :D
@@RiomalSure I admit I haven’t but from what I’ve seen it doesn’t look as premium as its predecessor or other luxury cars that aren’t as in your face with technology.
@@Peter-mj6lz so it is the same as would try to describe a taste o thing which you have never tasted :) most of the people just hate becouse they cannot afford it and maintain. It os a great car with pros and cons but theres no perfect car. In my opinion the cons: its hard to close the door if you ar short and you have opened them too wide, i would add phisical buttons at least 4-6, tank could be 100L. The rest is just great.
@@Riomalwhen I look at the screen inside the car it just feels overwhelming. Maybe I can’t be completely honest as I haven’t ridden in one though.
I don’t know about w223, but I love my w222
You got me on 2:24."You see that line? You can feel, that line" 🤣🤣🤣
Can't get enough of these vids Daniel Kon! You have a great talent sir, don't ever stop using it. MB should be hiring you to QC their assembly line
A lot more than that.
That would require them to give a shit about their cars.
Great video Daniel! Keep up the great work!! Great 80's music vibes
I worked on a MB dealership here on Spain, and a lot of customers that changed their w221 to a w222, it wanted back their 221, because it has better ride confort and better quality and silent. And I can confirm that is true
He calls a Laptop Glued to a shiny 2x4 Opulent. ??
Do you mean they change their 222 to 223 and now want their 222 back?
@andrewshi7123 that's Not what He Said !
I Didn't Like the w222.. or its Ugly interior....but thers No Way in Hell the 221 was Quieter and had a Better Ride. Those people were Delusional !
W221 exterior styling is boss level. I do think the interior was improved on W222.
Thanks man, it really annoys me how Mercedes-Benz ended up to make cars like that. I mean you're Mercedes come onnnn
So glad to see a new video from you, keep bringing us your excellent presenting and production style
Loved that you just drop this video out of nowhere. :) Was missing the content.
You talked me into a w221 3 years ago. So glad I found your channel again!
I watched all your videos in a three hours go and loved them. I am an Audi guy but respected your unbiased thoughts about Mercedes, Audi and Bmw.
You got me subbed 🔥
@2:51
lol, my bmw 1 series e81 has a damper included for damping this thing.
S = Shittification in this case
We own 4 of these and we are thrilled with the look, comfort and reliability.
Remember, NOTHING IS PERFECT
Daniel , That gray w221 in the video looks like yours. Did you end up keeping it ??
yeah im wondering too
Yep still got it :)
As always, great commentary/video. Hopefully you'll do more, you have a good voice and natural comedic timing 👌🏾
Please do a review of the new Lexus LS too
Good idea actually
Damn it has been 8 months without a new video. Missing the content not gonna lie
Alright, I'll make a video on the w220. She just turned 20 years old. Any background music requests?
One can only imagine if the Viet Cong had this footage in their torture arsenal.
🤣🤣🤣
Love your ocd commentary, I wanna see you try to nitpick an ls500 or a bentley
Daniel, we need more videos!
Is that hole in the door panel a key hole?
Nope, plus that door handle housing is dark plastic. Just cant easily tell on this model since it is black paint.
@@DanielKon15 that's not good
Love your reviews!!
Mate, didn't you make a nice video about Tesla? I can't seem to find it 😢
Miss you so much man. I wish you would do so many more reviews. Maybe some comparisons with Audi, 7 series… you know
I would watch top gear again if Daniel was hosting it….
Love all your vids ❤ and yes I am waiting for my S580 (223) due to arrive in couple weeks. P/S I am certainly not going to check on all the “problems” you pointed out 😅
4 centre vents with no symmetry on the info display !
Love your videos Daniel. I started with the W220 videos and then got one. Loved it. moved into the Mercedes W221 S550 after, and honestly there are things in the w220 which are better made. Fuel filler cap was metal for example. And many more little details that prove the W220 was not a bad car. Mine was preface lift. Never had a warning light on. Like the W221 - more powerful but as they go on these S classes they loose something along the way. I've had every S from 1963 to 2010, and some multiple times over. In order to accommodate the tech and price of all that added computing power, we see cheap door straps, rubber door surrounds, lots of hidden cost cutting. You only have to go to a scrapyard to really see how they were built.................
I love the 220. It's my favorite and treated me well. I can't believe it's 20 years old now!
You've has every generation of S Class? Would you be willing to rank them? Here's my main question: the gaps and seems and other quality issues that the video points out weren't there in older S Classes? Is that really true? I know the original S Class was built like a vault but it was built with 60-year-old methods. The new one is really inferior to the original?
@@joshharrison1160 Most will agree that the peak of build quality was the W140. These cars lack a lot of the modern electronic features but the build quality is exceptional.
Mercedes made leaps on the new G wagon but the W223 is hideous. Is the new G63 worth the hype?
There is one bad thing on these that no one talks about.
When you close the doors, the force required to actually slam them shut sends reverberations through the cabin.
So the slam sounds cool from the outside, but on the inside, it can hurt your ears.
The build quality is very good though on the new g wagon
@Daniel Kon Thanks for your input Daniel. I also want an amg gt63s they seem really cool.
I have a few MB you might be interested in reviewing.
Nice! Details? Thanks!!
2002 SL500
2001 E55 Sedan (Only 51k kms)
2000 E55 Wagon
Pre-merger AMGs.
@@kudynski epic!
Where located?
Daniel, you are like father to me 😭. Your video style is always so awesome. On a side-note, its crazy to see how low flimsy quality these luxury cars have become. I bought my 2007 Lexus LS460 for $22K AUD before tax almost two years ago from a rich family with multiple new LS's and Mercedes and the quality of my car seems to be better than this. Thank you for your service sir and Ill see you in the next one :)
Good
Go out there, do your best, and make me proud.
@@DanielKon15 do a video on the old diesel Mercedes
@@Rays_Bad_Decisions got a model in mind?
@@DanielKon15 the 70s diesels with the inline 5s and 6s you can find them from 2-20k in California. They have a lot of ground clearance and vacuum lines. I think they are good for someone with not much money. I think they also came in gas
Great details. Very underrated channel 🙏🏻
Daniel what are you driving now?
S class ;)
I've just bought a 2020 W222. It's a nice car, but even that has some questionable interior quality compared to my 2017 Quattroporte.
🍻 Well done Daniel
The reality is the Mercedes S class has had to move with the times - people don't buy these vehicles to last them two decades: they are disposable (just like a Tesla) with a lot of tech that will be obsolete in five years. Who the hell will want the headache of owning one of these in ten years? Most of them will end up in scrap yards. It's just not economically viable to build them to Rolls-Royce quality.
Do your really think someone with a Rolls-Royce will keep it for 10 years? Someone with that type of money would not like an outdated car.
S Class is the best luxury car in its segment. The BMW 7 series has the ugliest design I've ever seen. BMW has never been able to keep up with the Mercedes S-Class. They call themselves the ultimate driving machine, but they are now the ultimate ugly flop.
lol that build quality guy tested a 2014 Rolls Royce that was $600k new and interior panels were falling off and everything squeaked.😂
making that electronic door handles was the most unnecessary shit ever. They just planning to create huge money pits lmao
Really needed to laugh today and you never disappoint! Please more!
Very cheaply made I hate the interior minus the screen. The interior to the generation before was awesome they didn't know how to follow it up
aye, you good bro? are you alive?
Makin a vid rn actually. Thank you!
@@DanielKon15 LET'S GOOOOOOO!!!
This is an S-class?
I can’t believe that it has no analog clock in the middle… that’s a big no no from my side. This clock is very important. It’s a shame they got rid of it. Now s class has nothing timeless about it.
😂😂😂
👍🏻👍🏻 thanks for making me laugh. Great video.
Love your s class videos
0:26 is not a W223 taillight. Rest of the video loses credibility after that.
Didn’t say it was. Said the design looked better on the smaller models. Aka the cla.
@@DanielKon15 Lol cute reply but you clearly went back and showed the W223 rear before showing that closeup of another car, but in a similar color while saying “You can see things you’re not supposed to see.” Totally misleading. Which calls to question what else might have been doctored, what other parts of the W223 were damaged for the video. And speaking of the S550’s rear, those gaps were perfectly aligned lol, it was lying right over the footage.😂
Just when the world needed him the most, he vanished.
I'll be back
@@DanielKon15 would be an interesting video if you would dig into why Mercedes has chosen to go with a hybrid setup with their engines when manufacturers like BMW have achieved better fuel econ results with their straight 6 turbo engines such as their b58/s58?
I can't for the life of me understand why Mercedes would go the hybrid route when it means less MPG and very marginal gain in performance at the sacrifice of weight and chassis balance.
@@DanielKon15 but yeah regardless of what video you make will be looking forward to checking it out
@@Boguardis w220 turned 20 years old tribute video :)
That's why I am happy with my 08 S550.
Perhaps simplicity enables premium quality. The new S Class does too much that it becomes Mercedes version of a petrol Tesla literally.
Hope your okay sir miss your videos
Making a new one about the w220. She just turned 20 years old. Any background music requests?
@@DanielKon15 20 year old car deserves hits from the last 20 years pick some good ones
S-class has been on a decline since W140. The build quality of this s-class is objectively worse than BMW E90, which had felt window sill lining inside and real metal trims. (if it looked metallic, it was metal). Material quality in W222 wasn't much better either. Thin stuff all around. It just did a better job hiding it. W223? It's not even trying to hide it.
now thats something different
I think they purposely lowered QC. VW Group law suits, current global economy and supply chain shock.
Funds going into EV R&D. Even the EQS is a design slop. I've seen maybe 1 EQS on the road in a town that loves Mercs. I guess they love there Yachts a bit more.
I concur.
W221 best s class ever
Daniel, I agree Mercedes should hire you as their refinement chief.
Btw The waffle pattern seats will look so dated only few years from now. Party trick design gone kitch!
This all started with your Mercedes, it was all downhill after that.
Lolz tru
Did you forget you have a youtube channel
Haha kinda, any vid ideas?
@@DanielKon15buy an old s65 and mod it
@DanielKon15 can you find a 2nd gen ls400?
It's a shame this video has so few clicks.
Yeah I’m sticking to my W222…
Yeah, looks like they've gone downhill.
Plastic Fantastic S-Class :(
:( i think they may have improved fit and finish since. hopefully it was a covid thing
uuuuuuupppllllloooaaaadddd pleeeaaasssseee
Very sooooon
S class is the best sedan car ever . You don’t know what you are talking about . If you are so reach go by rolls Royce if you can afford $700K . S class is only $130k to $140 K . I owned S class mercedes since 30 years ago , at the same time own many other foreign and domestic . Still S class is #1
Bro a car isn‘t bad just because u can‘t afford it
Holy cow that’s really bad
Hell I’ll still take it😅
WTF Mercedes
😱😱 horrendous
Mercedes Benz. The best of nothing.
This video is completely fake
i have a 2022 W223 - it’s garbage. loaded with quality problems and failing electronics. does it have cool features and some really nice design elements? - for sure. but overall it’s a lemon. i’ve had 2 W221s and 1 W222 - all three were amazing. but this generation is a SHIT car.