I’m now imagining this alternative universe where strings actually has all the pieces of Exodia in his deck and just, infinitely draws into them, where Yami Yugi’s reaction is like “oh…shit” 😂
Exodia being in Yugi's deck wouldn't be a problem because you have to take into account the format the game was going by on top of how it was matching the evolution of the game. with the early manga's rules, direct attacks were forbidden and so long as a player sets a monster to the field, they wouldn't lose through LP damage, this mechanic allowed for Exodia to be an optimal win condition as you could set a monster and pass until you had all exodia pieces. come battle city this would change and i believe Yugi would have no doubt made a deck that would have optimized Exodia, even if he kept his usual staples. remember Yugi had Pot of Greed, Graceful charity, Card Destruction, and Card of sanctity, as well as witch of the black forest and sangan, all of these cards allowed Yugi to dig for resources and could have gathered the exodia pieces. and say yugi did use card destruction or card effects that forced him to discard exodia pieces. he has Disgraceful charity to reclaim them. so it's not really a question of whether or not Exodia fits yugi's deck, because if it was an option, he'd have made his deck accommodate exodia without sacrificing too much consistency. there's also the short prints of Exodia, like how Blue-eyes is short printed with only 4 copies, Exodia is probably just as hard to get with the head being the one with the shortest print while his limbs are put out more, this would explain why Yugi didn't waste money or the like to try and get a chance to rebuild exodia since joey saved 2 of those cards. as for the first episodes usage of Exodia, narratevly it doesn't make sense. HOWEVER that is due to Studio Gallop not having the rights to the first part of the manga. because if you watched S0 they were able to adapt the Death T tournament and throughout that story the themes of friendship and unity were present as Yugi and friends had to endure death trap styled games to rescue Yugi's grandfather with Tristan supposedly being killed and Yugi's grandfather being hospitalized from his duel and being put through a mind screw that Kaiba intentionally made using his solid vision tech as revenge for what yugi did to him during their first duel. Exodia's miracle moment was there to be a pay off and showed that Yugi's grandfather and his friends were there with him and that it was their bond that gave Yugi the win which Exodia Symbolized. this is also why the rare hunuter and even Gozoburo in the anime are perfect dark mirrors with their exodia themed decks. the rare hunter used counterfeit cards, so his exodia wins are not miracles because he is essentially using fake cards to win. Gozoburo used Exodia Necross who is an undead Exodia to haunt Kaiba and thought that this would net him a win both of these moments can be seen as a bastardization of what Exodia symbolically represents, A Miracle when people come together.
Adding on what you said: Exodia is one of if not the strongest spirit in duel monsters anime however his sealed power is his short coming so players using variations to cheat their powers make it cool because Adrian used the power of Exodius to get the same power of Exodia
2:00 It seems nobody knows what a Deus Ex Machina is. A Deus Ex Machina is a literary device that refers to an unlikely or improbable event or savior that suddenly appears to resolve a situation. Exodia has never and could never be a Deus Ex Machina because it doesn't come out of nowhere and has always been properly setup and established ahead of time. It seems that people have this idea of a Deus Ex Machina being anything that saves someone. Personally I blame CinemaSins for this but the real problem is probably deeper than that.
You are correct, Exodia is not really a deux ex machina and achieving it as a win condition has always been iffy in the actual game, it does ok in some formats though. The issue in this instance is that while the video is correct on Exodia from a narrative standpoint, Yugioh has plenty of deux ex machinas as is. Some of which could be argued to be plain cheating in general via millenium item. Yugi can draw whatever he wants due to luck boost from his millenium item for the love of god, his deck is terrible. The only good thing he has that is relevant being busted staples and exodia pieces, the rest is just crap that got boosted way later on through reprints.
@@JonDoe-nu3ix The thing is that the world of Yu-Gi-Oh works on different rules than ours does. A duelist can will any card they need to the top of their deck if they have a strong enough bond with their deck and monsters, this is why everyone is told to "Trust your deck" and "Believe in the Heart of the Cards" they're saying to trust that your deck will come through for you in the end. Atem isn't the only one who can do this, anyone can, he just happens to be better at it than most but any duelist can do what Atem does. Notice how most duelist's only run one copy of every card they have even if their important combo pieces? That makes sense here, why run 3 copies of something if you only need one?
You are right, sorry in my head I was more so thinking of ep 1, where it is sort of close to a deus ex machine given that the audience doesn’t know about exodia win condition, or that its powerful enough to win the duel other than vague hints like “another piece of the puzzle”. It’s barely shown in yugis hand, and to most people they wouldn’t be paying hard enough attention to his hand at a first viewing to realise what is going on. But in the mentioned usage I would definitely be wrong.
@@Monoanalysis No no it's cool, I just personally just get annoyed seeing the term Deus Ex Machina get misused again and again. Though I will say anyone who has already read the manga or was already a player of the game then Exodia would already be something they know about and were aware of, meaning the only people who wouldn't already know what it is are those watching for the first time who've never read the manga or played the game before.
True, but I would say that having prior knowledge of how something works isn’t something that should be taken into the fact if it’s a deus ex machine right? Would that not be like saying, the side kick comes to save the day out of nowhere isn’t a deus ex machine because you’ve already seen the movie?
He... didn't have exodia? He used it once because it was his grandpa's card and he wanted to prove that the deck was good. It made perfect sense for him to have it in that one duel.
It would be cool to have yugi v merik ultimate win con batte, but yea narrativly speaking it would get repetitive i think it would end up like the spirit bomb from DB
If I had to pick a favorite altenate wincon, it's one I never see people talk about. Ghosteick Angel of Mischief. You can do some Utopia shenanigans to summon the card, or you can play the slow game. It's just fun and janky, like Ghostricks. The deck is begging for support.
Actually, IV only used his alt win con monster when he wasnt a villain, vs nash, and still lost because nash could not lose to anyone other than yuma at end.
He used Disaster Leo against Nash. He used Destiny Leo against Shark during their final duel in the World Duel Carnival, the same Duel Shark evolved Shark Drake into a Chaos Number.
I’m now imagining this alternative universe where strings actually has all the pieces of Exodia in his deck and just, infinitely draws into them, where Yami Yugi’s reaction is like “oh…shit” 😂
Exodia being in Yugi's deck wouldn't be a problem because you have to take into account the format the game was going by on top of how it was matching the evolution of the game.
with the early manga's rules, direct attacks were forbidden and so long as a player sets a monster to the field, they wouldn't lose through LP damage, this mechanic allowed for Exodia to be an optimal win condition as you could set a monster and pass until you had all exodia pieces.
come battle city this would change and i believe Yugi would have no doubt made a deck that would have optimized Exodia, even if he kept his usual staples. remember Yugi had Pot of Greed, Graceful charity, Card Destruction, and Card of sanctity, as well as witch of the black forest and sangan, all of these cards allowed Yugi to dig for resources and could have gathered the exodia pieces.
and say yugi did use card destruction or card effects that forced him to discard exodia pieces. he has Disgraceful charity to reclaim them.
so it's not really a question of whether or not Exodia fits yugi's deck, because if it was an option, he'd have made his deck accommodate exodia without sacrificing too much consistency.
there's also the short prints of Exodia, like how Blue-eyes is short printed with only 4 copies, Exodia is probably just as hard to get with the head being the one with the shortest print while his limbs are put out more, this would explain why Yugi didn't waste money or the like to try and get a chance to rebuild exodia since joey saved 2 of those cards.
as for the first episodes usage of Exodia, narratevly it doesn't make sense. HOWEVER that is due to Studio Gallop not having the rights to the first part of the manga. because if you watched S0 they were able to adapt the Death T tournament and throughout that story the themes of friendship and unity were present as Yugi and friends had to endure death trap styled games to rescue Yugi's grandfather with Tristan supposedly being killed and Yugi's grandfather being hospitalized from his duel and being put through a mind screw that Kaiba intentionally made using his solid vision tech as revenge for what yugi did to him during their first duel.
Exodia's miracle moment was there to be a pay off and showed that Yugi's grandfather and his friends were there with him and that it was their bond that gave Yugi the win which Exodia Symbolized.
this is also why the rare hunuter and even Gozoburo in the anime are perfect dark mirrors with their exodia themed decks.
the rare hunter used counterfeit cards, so his exodia wins are not miracles because he is essentially using fake cards to win.
Gozoburo used Exodia Necross who is an undead Exodia to haunt Kaiba and thought that this would net him a win
both of these moments can be seen as a bastardization of what Exodia symbolically represents, A Miracle when people come together.
Adding on what you said: Exodia is one of if not the strongest spirit in duel monsters anime however his sealed power is his short coming so players using variations to cheat their powers make it cool because Adrian used the power of Exodius to get the same power of Exodia
2:00 It seems nobody knows what a Deus Ex Machina is.
A Deus Ex Machina is a literary device that refers to an unlikely or improbable event or savior that suddenly appears to resolve a situation.
Exodia has never and could never be a Deus Ex Machina because it doesn't come out of nowhere and has always been properly setup and established ahead of time. It seems that people have this idea of a Deus Ex Machina being anything that saves someone. Personally I blame CinemaSins for this but the real problem is probably deeper than that.
You are correct, Exodia is not really a deux ex machina and achieving it as a win condition has always been iffy in the actual game, it does ok in some formats though. The issue in this instance is that while the video is correct on Exodia from a narrative standpoint, Yugioh has plenty of deux ex machinas as is. Some of which could be argued to be plain cheating in general via millenium item. Yugi can draw whatever he wants due to luck boost from his millenium item for the love of god, his deck is terrible. The only good thing he has that is relevant being busted staples and exodia pieces, the rest is just crap that got boosted way later on through reprints.
@@JonDoe-nu3ix The thing is that the world of Yu-Gi-Oh works on different rules than ours does. A duelist can will any card they need to the top of their deck if they have a strong enough bond with their deck and monsters, this is why everyone is told to "Trust your deck" and "Believe in the Heart of the Cards" they're saying to trust that your deck will come through for you in the end.
Atem isn't the only one who can do this, anyone can, he just happens to be better at it than most but any duelist can do what Atem does. Notice how most duelist's only run one copy of every card they have even if their important combo pieces? That makes sense here, why run 3 copies of something if you only need one?
You are right, sorry in my head I was more so thinking of ep 1, where it is sort of close to a deus ex machine given that the audience doesn’t know about exodia win condition, or that its powerful enough to win the duel other than vague hints like “another piece of the puzzle”. It’s barely shown in yugis hand, and to most people they wouldn’t be paying hard enough attention to his hand at a first viewing to realise what is going on.
But in the mentioned usage I would definitely be wrong.
@@Monoanalysis No no it's cool, I just personally just get annoyed seeing the term Deus Ex Machina get misused again and again. Though I will say anyone who has already read the manga or was already a player of the game then Exodia would already be something they know about and were aware of, meaning the only people who wouldn't already know what it is are those watching for the first time who've never read the manga or played the game before.
True, but I would say that having prior knowledge of how something works isn’t something that should be taken into the fact if it’s a deus ex machine right?
Would that not be like saying, the side kick comes to save the day out of nowhere isn’t a deus ex machine because you’ve already seen the movie?
Meanwhile Joey on his primarily luck base deck
Exodia would be even better in his deck 😭😭😭 HE NEEDS A WIN CONDITION
Imagine Yugi facing against Pegasus and his first hand having all five pieces of Exodia.
This was clearly the top moment in Yu-Gi-Oh history.
He... didn't have exodia? He used it once because it was his grandpa's card and he wanted to prove that the deck was good. It made perfect sense for him to have it in that one duel.
You really should pay more attention to the videos you watch. Smh
It would be cool to have yugi v merik ultimate win con batte, but yea narrativly speaking it would get repetitive i think it would end up like the spirit bomb from DB
If I had to pick a favorite altenate wincon, it's one I never see people talk about.
Ghosteick Angel of Mischief. You can do some Utopia shenanigans to summon the card, or you can play the slow game. It's just fun and janky, like Ghostricks.
The deck is begging for support.
Nobody asked
Technically he'd have been completely OP. Not that he isn't anyhow. 😆
Actually, IV only used his alt win con monster when he wasnt a villain, vs nash, and still lost because nash could not lose to anyone other than yuma at end.
He used Disaster Leo against Nash.
He used Destiny Leo against Shark during their final duel in the World Duel Carnival, the same Duel Shark evolved Shark Drake into a Chaos Number.
my favorite alternate win condition is Venominaga
Bc its his grandpa deck? Wtf
Well the con man used the exodia cards