Onefinity Journeyman Wall Mount - Hanging & Running My New CNC Machine
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2022
- How to hang a Onefinity CNC machine on the wall using their wall-mount hardware - and the best news is you can run it while its up there!
You might have noticed my brain switched some letters around one me, the frame is called the QCW, NOT CQW.
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Cool mount! Looking forward to seeing more of this CNC machine operating like it did here in a future video.
For workholding you could make some blocks with adjustable extensions (aka bolts with two nuts) that lock into any open T-track below the workpiece, and extend the bolts to securely support the workpiece from below. You could even use a strip of plywood or something as a cap/spoil-strip for the bolts, to protect your bits and such. That way you're not relying purely on friction/clamp pressure to support the workpiece.
That's an interesting idea!
So cool bud! I'm still blown away that it works vertically like that, super impressive!
You and me both! I had concerns about the accuracy it would have, but it seems perfect so far.
Thanks for sharing this, Mark. We're in a situation where we need more space for a Journeyman we haven't ordered, yet. We don't want to buy/build something large/permanent like a shed since we'll be moving in the next year or so. This looks like a perfect solution for us.
Glad it was helpful! It takes a little getting used to, but it works great.
@@GunflintDesigns I may have missed it but, is changing out the waste board difficult with this setup?
I'm planning to wall mount the journeyman I ordered like you did! Thanks for the video and helping me plan ahead to get plenty of help lifting and figure out work holding. Subscribed and looking forward to future updates!
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Pretty interesting, Mark! Fantastic new tool! 😃
Congrats!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks, you too!
Suggestion. Use brass screws when attaching your waste board to the bed and material to the waste board. Brass is soft enough that if you accidentally hit a screw with a cutter, it won't destroy the cutting edges.
I'm current changing to a new workshop and I'm thinking on reinstall my router of 3x1,5m in the wall, but in my case I think that will not be so easy.
Hope that your don't give you any issue and thanks for sharing it.
I'll be interested to see how you address workholding in that future video. Very cool concept for space savings for smaller shop that still want to use a larger cnc.
This machine is designed to let a 4x8 sheet of plywood pass through it... I don't think that's going to be in the cards for me - imagine the work holding on that!
@@GunflintDesigns The only thing I can think of is to mount it closer to the floor, and tilt it up when youre mounting a large work piece
I would love to hear how it holds up in that orientation 6 -12 months from now.
I'll keep you posted.
Very well done on a lot of levels. You speak really well and you could do this professionally. Wall mount is a great idea.
I know a tall guy that could come help left that thing off the wall if you ever need to service it! 😉 Looking forward to see how this works long term for you. It’s definitely a space saver!
You can always use the plastic nails to hold the work pieces up (not sure if they will go through hardwood though)
I'll have to give it a try.
Now I want to hang mine on the wall. What an awesome machine and better video!
Hmmm interesting, I like the convenience of the wall mounting. Interested to see how you like it long term. Especially with mounting projects for carving. As small as my shop is I think for me I prefer the traditional mounting on a work table. Look forward to your next video on this setup
Just making a prediction - I think I prefer working with the machine sitting flat... but freeing up this much space in my already too-full shop is worth a little inconvienence.
@@GunflintDesigns I hear you, I built the Fisher flip table to free up some space but I use my Onefinity so much I never fold it up. But the wall mount has me thinking maybe turn my Onefinity 90 degrees on the table, fold down to set it up then flip on edge to cut?? Hmmmmmm…..
Would this put more pressure on the motors?
can the brackets be switched so it hangs front down, then you have no dust issue ! and your x and y will make sence too
Do you lose any accuracy on the y axis? You know with it "falling" when it moves down and having to fight gravity when it moves up?
That was a concern of mine as well, I haven't tested it extensively, but so far it doesn't seem to be happening.
It seems like it should be rotated 90 degrees. That would allow the dust and debris to fall off without falling on the rails.
That would make sense - but I bet it wouldn't line up with studs that direction. I'll have to go measure.
@@GunflintDesigns If the Onefinity brackets allow it to be rotated 90 degrees and it does not line up with the studs. You might be able to mount a header board to the wall attaching at each stud location. Then mount the brackets to the header board. Not sure if that would make it hang to far off the wall or not.
@@GunflintDesigns If you turn it 90 degrees, i think you would probably cause a torqueing issue especially with the length of this machine. Having two rails going vertically with a router moving back and forth could spell trouble. Also, are you planning on adding any dust collection to this setup? I'd be interested in seeing how that works vertically. Great video and good luck with the machine
Check it out. Someone did mount it that way. Not without its own set of issues though: th-cam.com/video/d9xi9Bi9krc/w-d-xo.html
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Have you put some support at the bottom?
Looks great, I just hung my Journeyman on the wall and will start running some test carves. Any updates or experience you can share since you published this video? Would love to learn from your "mistakes" rather than duplicate them myself. Great video, love your content!
CQW, huh? "Change Quick Wasteboard". Haha! I love the out-of-the-box thinking here! Thanks for the video!
Yeah, my brain was installed backwards at the factory. I didn't catch that until it was already uploaded and I didn't want to re-edit just for that!
@@GunflintDesigns I totally get it. Great video anyway!
How do you probe for XYZ on the vertical?
It’s pretty unbelievable that it will carve on the wall! I think you’ve done what I would do for work holding. Screws are a bit nerve racking though!
I wish there was an easy way to do an air pass so you can see the path it takes before running it.
@@GunflintDesigns just set z over your piece by more that the depth you are setup to cut and you will get what you are looking for.
Spotnails CB1819C 18GA Composite Brad Nailer will address all your concerns with screws.
I'm curious as to how far it is protruding off the wall?
Thanks for sharing. Are you still happy with the decision to mount it on the wall?
Maybe get some nylon screws for hold downs....you'd have to pre-drill but might be worth loosing the pucker factor with that bit getting close.
That's definitely worth a test!
Afraid to say that this will likely not hold up well over time as-is. I did someone similar with my CNC and gravity won. The solution is to use a counter-balance weight of the same weight as the spindle assembly, and attach the two through a pulley in the ceiling. This way the spindle can move without gravity constantly trying to pull it down, otherwise you risk burning out your motor. The other option is to create a sliding storage option where you create vertical rails on your wall so you can slide your CNC up and down as needed (see here th-cam.com/video/BCJCTjqov8s/w-d-xo.html). But this Journeyman looks super cool. It looks really solid. I'll have to check it out. Thanks for sharing.
Sounds like you have some good ideas for making it work long-term! This is hoe Onefinity sells it and they say it can be used this way. I'm happy to be the guy to put it to the test.
That's pretty neat and quite the space savings if it continues to work well. I wonder if a version of a floor sweep titled on it's side (or those angled shrouds for lathes) at the base with a DC connected would capture a lot of the dust? Excited to see how you trick it all out over time. Good luck Mark!
Good thinking! I could even take a 4-foot section of PVC pipe with a series of lines or holes in it then run it length-wise along the wall under the machine. Like a big vacuum manifold.
Just a quick question on the QCW you ordered. Did they not have the “secure from above” version which allows you to attach the Mdf waste board from above rather than below? You’ve got to really baby that thing now because if you’ve got to replace that waste board you’ve got to take the whole concept off the wall to access the mounting screws.
I saw a concrete vid just recently where they talked about a pneumatic Brad nailer that shoots composite brads so your bit just cuts through it if they make contact.
I am quite surprised that those 6 screws are enough to hold it. I would think it would need more are larger lag screws.
What design software are you using for your projects? Any thoughts on the buildbotics controller and drivers?
I use Adobe Illustrator to do my two-dimensional drawings, then bring that into Easel to run the machine. I have no idea what buildbiotics is.
@@GunflintDesigns From my understanding, buildbotics is the onefinity controller box's meat and potatoes.
How did you set your drive and idle currents to compensate for gravity? I wall mounted mine and cannot get it to overcome gravity. I've tried adjusting drive and idle currents. If I reverse the motor direction then it works but then it homes to the wrong side and gives me inconsistent homing results.
Look up woby design on TH-cam. He had the same problem and found a solution for it
Can you not hang it rotated once more so that the two side rails are vertical. That would fix the dust problem and would probably help me with orientation looking at it head on instead of from the side?
So does this mean there’s some dinosaur shaped push sticks in the future 😄
It's been a while... How did the machine hold up working in that position? Really curious if you had any issues, or if it affected the quality of the work? Thanks! :)
Get your brain right! Lol been there my friend.
I don't see the sad face high five emoji, but we need one.
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CNC for me, is hard enough sitting level.
Perhaps when you cut on the right side, you can pretend it's a British table saw?
Good call. I'll use my imagination.
Yeah, that's all well and good, BUT don't even think about doing this if you have a 2.2KW water-cooled spindle. Much too heavy. Onefinty sales will tell you it's okay until you do it, and tech support will tell you not to after you do. FORGET IT! Unnecessary strain on the steppers.
Have you discovered any good ways of work holding? I put up a rather large 2" thick piece of walnut and its so damn hard to hold it on. I had to screw it right into the waste board