How To Build A Fold Down CNC Table - Space Saving Worktop
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.พ. 2021
- This video demonstrates how to build a wall-mounted fold-down CNC table or worktop using heavy-duty fixings and components, this table will hold over 200KG in weight, is rigid and folds away to save space.
It is designed for use with the a 48" x 48" CNC router.
Kee Clamp pipe fittings available from:
www.keyclampstore.com/
Unistrut track and runners available from:
www.orbitalfasteners.co.uk/pr...
The worktop is 100mm Deep and 1200 x 1200 surface area, the hinges are mounted dead centre and the video describes this process.
New version update! th-cam.com/video/FwEuSi5xRCo/w-d-xo.html
I've been overthinking this completely, you've just made my life so much easier!!! Than you for posting this!
I love this idea, I also have a small space that I am planning for my future cnc. I also saw a video with the cnc hanging and cutting against the wall.
Great idea, clean design, pristine execution!!!
Nice one man! I'm about to build a CNC table myself. This has got me thinking
Glad I could help
Nice design.. I was building something similar a few years ago but had lots of binding... recently learned about the unistrut and have now many more ideas!
Thanks buddy, the trick is to get everything level and plum, the arms the same length, same height etc, you don't have to use unistrut, ideally a bearing which is located in a track and holds its position laterally is ideal, the video shows some examples of that so if you get a chance to do it, experiment a bit first to see if you can get a better wall runner. Good luck!
Simply brilliant! I was looking at a folding table which would put the working height too high. Before seeing your design, I was making peace with an awkwardly high table. Thanks!
Elegantly simple. Awesome.
Thank you!
Very ingenious design and excellent work! I'm designing my own now.
Make sure to share and show me what you come up with!
Wow! Simple but brilliant. The essence of a great design.
There is actually a better design been done if you go to my channel and look for the newer videos, they are better than the one in this video.
Yep, I saw that one later in the day. Did you drop the idea of a plans and/or kits? I know this channel is not your job.@@DesignBuildTDE
Great work
Thanks
I NEED this. Exactly this. I just ordered the Woodworker CNC with the cheesie wall mount they offer. I think I'll cancel that wall mount because this is WAYYY better for my setup. Love it!
Onefinity are sending me the wall mount to see if I can modify it to fold up and down a wall, this will be one of my next projects.
Great idea!
Very NICE design and congratulations on the new soon to arrive ONEFINITY. I too am waiting for mine but won't see it for about 2 more months. I am needing to do pretty much this same thing for my lack of space and will copy your design because it looks like a fantastic solution.
See if you can do better, maybe use better bearings, mine works and is great, but I wanted to buy much better bearings.
Hoping to see the video for version 2 of this table soon!
Me too! ha, I have a lot of work to do!
I like your design the way it is. Looks like it's working well. I may try something with different bearings, if so I will update you.
Go for it!
This is so cool!
Thanks
This is simply the best solution I have seen for placing a CNC machine in a small shop. Parts from the Key Clamp Store are ordered and on the way. I did go with the 34mm system rather than the 27mm system. The Onefinity Journeyman is larger than the Woodworker and the beefier 34mm pieces seem appropriate. Looking forward to your release of the engineered system plans you've mentioned. I'd appreciate the chance to purchase a ratchet strap from you.
Thank you for sharing this!
Jim
Will be selling these on Etsy very soon buddy!
@@DesignBuildTDE Excellent! Let us know when.
1st time viewer
That was beautiful
Good job
Thanks and welcome
i like it - my onefin is due in aug 2021
Thanks for showing me where my table could have been built better.
Sorry!
Love the design thinking about this for a table in a shop I need. the table is a bit larger than what you are showing here at
Hi Mathew, the table size doesnt really matter as long as you use robust supports to match the table size, I wouldnt recomend copying the sled style I used with door hinges, it works for me but it is better to use linear berings on a tubular shaft if you can find those.
Do you have a recommendation for the linear bearings Im
exactly what i had in mind for my CNC. although the 1Finity doesnt have to be on a true level/perpendicular to floor platform, it can work on an angle to the wall.
Thats why I have that ratchet on mine so I can use the machine at multiple angles.
Thanks for the idea. I finished mine and I'm waiting for my Onefinity to be delivered. I used 8020 aluminum extrusion with linear slides for the uprights. I think in your neck of the woods the brand is called Item. I works perfectly. If I could post a photo here i would show you.
@David Dickmeyer - can you email it to me? I am upgrding mine to a tubular system soon. lee.turnbull@tde.org.uk
@@DesignBuildTDE Be on the lookout. I just sent it.
I would like to see the 80/20 setup. I would rather use that type of setup vs unistrut.
@@raginbullshot5026 I have design drawings using the 8020 stuff. Not sure how to post them here, but I would be willing to share them free of charge.
@@daviddickmeyer5231 I'd also be interested in the 8020 design. I plan to use that for my table frame, to accommodate a vertical clamping table for end grain joinery. Looks like the 40-4012 is a good profile to mount the 1F feet to. Let me know how to get your design info, thank you!
Hey guys, potentially BIG announcement, I am currently in talks with Onefinity we plan to design a folding table which will be affordable and able to be delivered for home assembly. It is early days but hopefully we might have something for October, if you are planning to make one of these folding tables maybe hang fire as the table design currently being assessed is very robust, easy to assemble and will save you a lot of headaches! Stay tuned!
Too late now!
Is this for sure? I can definitely cancel my parts and wait for your product. And will this folding table be for the journeyman?
I actually am thinking about this system with the Journeyman frame. I assume that is what you will be building with One Infinity?
@@albertly69 It is happening but it will take a while to go through the design and validation process,
@@albertly69 It will be a long process at least a couple of months for validating and design, the table provided by onefinity is ideal for fold down applications, the journeyman is larger and will probably require a slightly different design.
Where did you get the the strap lock from.
What were the guide wheels call?
I see you are trying to make this commercially available. Is there anyway you could provide a parts list for the under table legs and the uni-strut parts used? Like what are the lengths for the pipe?
Great piece of engineering - Can you share the ratchet strap type and where you sourced it from please?
Thanks
Gary
Hi Gary, The ratchet strap is a device that I designed and built, if you go on my channel you can see it in my "elevator pitch" video - I can sell you one if you email me lee.turnbull@TDE.org.uk - Can ship to the states also.
Oh, and how long is each pipe?
Where did you get the locking strap device? I have searched and can only find lashing straps that won't quiet work. Thanks and great design!
I invented it, check my other videos I do one discussing it
I mirrored this design exactly and I’m more than satisfied, thank you. Did you use the supplied blue mounting bolts when you mounted the cnc to the table or did you use something long enough to go through the table top and use something like a hex nut at the other end to safely secure it while it rests in the upright position?
I used larger ones in metric
Great build. I may try making one using 80/20 aluminum extrusion. They also have linear bearings for their products. I would like to know the manufacturer of that web strap latch that you are using to hold it up and lower it please. I don't recall seeing one quite like it before. I get my Onefinity the end of July.
The device is one I designed and built for another purpose, most people seem to use an electric winch, the table does need a bit of force to lift it, the strap lock is helpful as you can lower it. Are you in the US?
@@DesignBuildTDE I would be interested in having a few of those gadgets! And yes I am is the US, although my late wife’s family are from Dunlop, Scotland. 😃 You live in a most beautiful country.
Would you mind naming the scaffold parts please - cant seem to locate them by picture Thank you! great video
They are called Kee clamp tubes, they're very common and available all over the world
I have put link in description.
Very interested in this. I have a similar situation for my 1010 workbee. Do you have a full cut list and parts guild? Specifically the linear bearings for the wall tracks
Hi Rob Atha, at some point I'll be creating one, there are some aspects of the design which I want to improve on, in fairness it works perfectly, I will try and do a cut list and will post a link for you when done
I eagerly await this and thank you for the inspiration 😂
Do you have plans available? My 1F should arrive in July and this is exactly what I want to build. Cheers!
I will be uploading plans soon, stay tuned!
@@DesignBuildTDE its been 4 months since. Where might I find plans? I need to build this yesterday.
I’m thinking of building a similar concept, but with a winch as the lowering and raising control. My biggest concern is having to re-level it periodically. Have you had any issues with this?
The answer to this could be complicated so I will say this, it is possible to mek the table level each time it is opened repeatedly, but not with my current design, the hinge idea over time stretches, there is a new design coming that uses islated tubular linear bearings, that will level out every single time. You wont need a winch but I guess it makes the job easier, I fold my table away by hand, it has a 2.2 kw spindle and weighs a ton, but the geomtery of the hinges counters all that. wait a few weeks for the new design to come out.
were the side load rollers you used anything special, or just a nylon/acetal/? roller on a bolt?
@@leeturnbull2082 New design looks great; good fit for 1F to (re)market, since they're a big buyer of tubing already and can produce the "special" bracketry quite easily with sufficient volume. Not sure how practical it would be for an individual to make these parts or if they are all available on the commercial off-the-shelf market.
Your automated design is brilliant! I’d love to build this one based on affordability. Did you ever make plans for sale?
Once I am past the beta stage I will evaluate wether to sell plans or make kits, apologies if this isnt helpfull, its taken 10 weeks just to get here as I can only make a bit each weekend. If I sell them it has to be safe and up to standard, but stay tuned, you should be able to make your own once I do a video, thats if you dont want to buy one.
@@DesignBuildTDE again, brilliant design!
Does the X-axis fall when the table is slid up against the wall? IOW, is there some retention needed of the X-axis to keep it from sliding down under its own weight?
I always leave everything at the lowest level, it has no where to fall, basically the home position,
@@DesignBuildTDE Thanks for the response - while that does make perfect sense, I was looking to have the largest projection from wall (Z-axis) higher than my head while stored to get the best shop space utilization, instead of the likely scenario where I walk directly into it! :((
what would you call those rails and wheels and where would one go to buy them - would a local hardware store like home depot or lowes?
I wouldnt use those, I have a better design now, copy that one, use linear rails, much more rigid, th-cam.com/video/FwEuSi5xRCo/w-d-xo.html
I am 100% building this for my CNC. I really like the design at the 00:01:15 mark. What fitting is the sliding part highlighted in BLUE? I can’t seem to find it anywhere (US).
Hi @thecrus8r that's 27mm kee clamp tubing, but the linear bearing will have to be a custom part, when does your machine arrive becuase in a few weeks I'm doing a design package for the tubing version
@@DesignBuildTDE Thank you for the reply. The machine will arrive at some point in July. I did some research/planning last night and I believe that I can make it work with what I've found. Luckily I have a pal that is an engineer, so he'll help out a bit on alternatives/solutions to minor hiccups. I'll pop back in and let you know how it went. Again, great design and thank you. This is much better than the other fold down designs I am seeing that take up much more depth space on the wall when stored.
How tall is your channel? I've bought the unistrut trolley bearings but I see in the comments and reviews that the trolly has issues clearing the screws that mount the channels to that wall with a 41mm x 41mm Strut. Best Regards.
My channel is 1 meter long, the table is 950mm above the deck and when it folds vertical it still has 200mm of travel, if you have a larger wall and set the support braces further out you can get the table to travel much further up the wall.
My tip, if you're doing this design, don't copy this one but copy the tubular system, I will upgrade mine to a tubular linear bearing in a few months, its stronger, smoother and has no play and no set up issues like you mentioned with runners.
Personally I got my runners screwed in with no interference, I don't know why some people have had issues.
Do you think this could work? Happybuy 2PCS Linear Rail 0.78-47 Inch, Linear Bearings and Rails with 4PCS SBR20UU Bearing Block, Linear Motion Slide Rails for DIY CNC Routers Lathes Mills, Linear Slide Kit fit X Y Z Axis www.amazon.ca/dp/B06X92YPT8/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_PFD8HAYWBJ7777XW0X6B?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
What is the locking strap that is used
@@leeturnbull2082 Do you sell them?
Are the plans now available for purchase somewhere? I would really like to build one.
There is a much better design out, I wil bring a video out in the next month, unfortunately I have been so busy I have neglected all my CNC stuff
@@leeturnbull2082 What type of problems did you find with this design that caused a new build? I think this one looks really awesome
@@leeturnbull2082 what size pipes are you using? 27mm, 34mm or 48mm?
I'm starting to make my table at the moment and very excited to follow your idea here. Are you able to do a video demonstrating your new table plans? If its better I would be keen to purchase plans
I might make something like this for an assembly table.. .looks beefy... Plan to sell the plans?
I can give you the plans buddy, just be a few days as I've started a new job
@@DesignBuildTDE I would appreciate them as well. I like your torsion table.
@@DesignBuildTDE I would like the plans or at the least the lengths of the tubing and table size i also am waiting on my 1finity and this would be a great space saver.
@@rickmath the table is 1255mm wide by 1200mm deep, the bar attaches dead centre of the table (600mm) and is 850mm long, this doesn't include the pipe fittings which are 27mm kee clamp tubing. The runners are made by unistrut, but you can use other runners, they're attached to a 30mm plank of ply, with 40mm nylon rollers with steel bearings the table sits 950mm from the ground, the runners are each 1000mm long, if you copy that design you'll need 4 x rated bearing hinges. I will at some point revise this and make a drawing but at the moment I am up in the Highlands working
@@DesignBuildTDE thank very much
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