HID vs. LED Headlights Real World Test! (Should You Switch?)

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  • @nicholaswatson3896
    @nicholaswatson3896 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Real world test, for real world people. Thank you.

  • @dongchim
    @dongchim 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    10:12 thanks for the honest assessment. HIDs may be safer as the LEDs illuminate the foreground more, making it more difficult to see further away. No point lighting up the ground in front of you since you can't avoid anything that close.

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not that bad. I haven't had any issues trying to see in the distance.

  • @paulsp2693
    @paulsp2693 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Most likely your projector reflector needs re-coating as it might have faded away the reflective coating cause of exposure to the outside atmosphere, the process to recoat reflective coating is called "vacuum metalisim.

    • @kohlpee3732
      @kohlpee3732 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think your assumption is wrong. Here's why. The OP only used the same reflector bowl with his testing. So the reflector bowl has nothing to do with it. The only thing he change was the type of bulb in the same reflector bowl. It's the bulbs that made a big change and not the reflector bowl's reflectiveness.

  • @pattygq
    @pattygq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:42 Did they just light up 100% then drop to a lower output within 4-5 seconds?

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No that's the camera auto adjusting the exposure. The lights stay at a constant brightness as soon as they turn on👍🏼

    • @pattygq
      @pattygq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Fizzo20 Ah okay thanks. I assume a year later no issues?

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No issues!

    • @pattygq
      @pattygq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Fizzo20 Awesome dude. Thanks!

  • @kohlpee3732
    @kohlpee3732 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Based on my recent test, LED is the way to go. Beat my OEM and aftermarket HID projectors - these are new bulbs that I used and are expensive. Most of the testing out there are done with a white background and check the lumens. But these guys who test don't test it in realworld scenarios other than a controlled environtment - white background. My testing just supports your claim that LED is better that HID bulbs specially in a projector housing for low beam. It is the type of light that the LED produces that the HID bulb cannot duplicate. The LED light has a different wavelength or light spectrum that when it is projected, it gives you a better contrast of the area that makes what you see stand out. HID bulbs just could not do it specially with 6000 kelvin and up. Guys, don't wasre your money on HID projectors or HID bulbs.

    • @t_z1030
      @t_z1030 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Conversely, I've gone back to upgraded halogens after running LEDs in my projector headlights for years. I did this after driving a car with factory HIDs and noticing that even though the LEDs in my car were technically brighter, I could actually see way better with the HIDs. Not only was the colour temperature better (somewhere around 5500K I would guess vs. 6500K LEDs), but the lighting is much more even. The LEDs cause a really bright hotspot, which your eyes then adjust to, and then shadowed areas towards the sides where you really need that light to see for animals. It was really the worst of both worlds. I now have Philips halogens and am much happier because I can actually see what's hiding on the shoulder.

    • @kohlpee3732
      @kohlpee3732 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@t_z1030 This actually depends on the design of the halogen housing. Not all halogen housing are the same.. With my testing, I use the same headlight housing but retrofited with aftermarket HID projectors and complared to OEM halogen projectors with LED bulbs. Most HID projectors have the half moon shield(because of bi xenon feature) hi/low while the OEM halogen projector in my Sienna is a bowtie shape shield low beam only. Did not know it until I retrofitted my halogen projectors with HID ones because back then, the LED bubls were not as bright. In 2024, LED bulbs are brighter. So what difference does the shield make, the half moon shield causes a hot spot in the middle. Surprisingly, the halogen projector with a bowtie shape shield has no hotspot and better visibility on the sides because it does not have the horizontal cut off like the half moon shield produces. I'm back using the OEM halogen projectors with the Sealight X4i H11 bulb. Amazing!

  • @ThePupil
    @ThePupil ปีที่แล้ว +4

    With the before/after you can clearly see that with the LED there is way more light output but also more light bleeding. This happens when the bulb is not matching completely with the type of lens and cut off mechanism. So although you have a projector lens, and a cut off mechanism you still get annoying light bleeding which annoys drivers on the road.

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I suppose you could be right but I haven’t had any complaints or oncoming traffic flashing me. At least it’s a far cry to those that put LEDs in a reflector housing!

    • @mattlane2282
      @mattlane2282 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's illegal (and good reason) anyway

  • @TriggzCrooke
    @TriggzCrooke ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I can say that this was not a fair comparison. #1 rule! Do not be caught up with the marketing hype of lumens as the actual real world test is going to be based on LUX testing(usable light)at a certain point or distance with a light meter. I am pretty sure that if you would have replaced your old oem HID bulbs even your ballasts with newer ones from Phillips or Osram especially if they were in the range of 43 to 4800k,they would have been far more superior than those LED bulbs as your housings were designed for HID not LED. Also you will get better visibility down the road if you actually aimed the light pattern at a distance from 25 feet to a wall on a flat surface measuring from the ground to the center of the headlight versus eyeballing it. But that's just my 2 cents 😊. If you really want to compare the 2 in a shootout, then get a new set of HID bulbs,Ballasts and a light meter and do another video as this was not really a comparison. It was more like a conversion because you had old worn out bulbs.

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I completely agree with all points. I’m not caught up in anything, just stating what is. This video wasn’t really planned and I didn’t think it would get so many views or comments. For some reason I just wanted to try the LED bulbs even though I agree HID bulbs + new ballasts would be superior but I figured why not document it and show my experience. Hence why I said “not a scientific comparison.” Maybe I should’ve titled it as a conversion but it’s done now. Perhaps I’ll switch back to HID bulbs down the road and make another video but for now the LED bulbs are working great. Appreciate the comment though, I often learn from them as well.

    • @TriggzCrooke
      @TriggzCrooke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Fizzo20 Looking forward to it brother! Sorry for the late response.

  • @dylangajdosik964
    @dylangajdosik964 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    LEDs are only decent for housings specifically built/designed for LED chip placement and even then, i'd still give the win to HID as far as down road lighting goes. Color temperature too. If LEDs were 4300k like factory HID, then maybe they'd have a shot. I find LED color temperature too cool for inclement weather.

    • @Rand0muser2538
      @Rand0muser2538 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the issue is that to get an 4300k led there has to be a yellow filter applied on the diodes which would lower the light output even more

    • @mattlane2282
      @mattlane2282 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Rand0muser2538 Stop, one leds are not legal for road use
      two, every damn professional building, store etc... is running 4k or 5 leds...
      You just... dum.

    • @kohlpee3732
      @kohlpee3732 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not totally true. Using an LED bulb in a halogen projector housing will outperform any HID projectors in low beam and a 6500K LED temperature in the rain outperforms any HID's. I have not tried it in foggy weather yet. I used to believe people saying that in forums but no longer do. Once you performed your own tests/testing, you will come into conclusion a lot of what they say in forums are not true. FYI, I use a Sealight X4i H11 bulb in a 2014 Toyota Sienna halogen projector headlightd. Here's one proof why it does better in rainy weather. The LED light it emits increases the reflection of the white lines on the road including yellow lines. With a projector housing, you have a cut off line. Do you know they use reflector white paints on the highways and roads? I agree with you on highbeams but LED is not that far behind.

    • @Kaiser187
      @Kaiser187 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have some LED low beams that are super bright white and look 5k temp. Just replaced my HIDS with them. Honestly the HIDS looked cooler because I had 8k. The LED throw lighter just as far or farther and are definitely brighter. Both are rated at 35w also. It's a toss up, I would have to see 5k HIDS next to it to see which one is brighter.

  • @anthonye3680
    @anthonye3680 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any updates, they both still working any issues?

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still work as good as new!

    • @anthonye3680
      @anthonye3680 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Fizzo20 thanks for the reply, I am going to order some

  • @crs1474
    @crs1474 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it just the camera or is the LED side hotspot very low?

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At which timestamp?

    • @crs1474
      @crs1474 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty much the whole on the road portion. I’m not sure if it’s just the camera though

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In terms of height they are equally level now but the I think the left side is a bit brighter still. The camera makes the difference look more pronounced than in real life. I did look again when driving at night, any uneven lighting is almost negligible.

  • @subayakambeyanda
    @subayakambeyanda ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HID’s fade with time maybe that’s why you feel the LED is better than the HID but if you were to use a new HID I guess the performance would be of more competition to each other

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep I did mention that in the video, hence a more “real world test”

    • @namitkanojia9791
      @namitkanojia9791 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I am not an expert. But my experience is a bit different with my 8yr old hid kit. Coz what I learnt is that hid generates light by creating an arc between 2 electrodes, so there is no sense of fading over time. But led's outer shell which is made up of epoxy decorates by heating.
      As I mentioned above, I am not an expert, and all this information I shared is just from my one and only hid kit in my car and one led installed in my bike. And rest from the internet.
      So please correct me if I am wrong.

    • @namitkanojia9791
      @namitkanojia9791 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And yes I will also prefer led over hid because of hid's 8-10sec warm-up time is not ideal for flasher.

  • @jacklee5335
    @jacklee5335 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which led is the good brand?

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To be honest I'd say pretty much all Amazon LED bulbs are more or less the same quality Chinese made products. I read the reviews and picked something I thought would work well. That being said, the Car Rover bulbs have been great and are still working flawlessly over a year later.

    • @kohlpee3732
      @kohlpee3732 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I use Sealight H11 X4i. Try it if you haven't yet.

  • @magnuspettsson
    @magnuspettsson ปีที่แล้ว

    Thinking of this on my Saab 9-5 with Xenon though I am wondering what happens the day the fan dies on the LED lamp isn´t it any risk for say a small fire in the housing?

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  ปีที่แล้ว

      I would guess that if the fan died, the circuit board/electronics would overheat, causing the LED itself to fail before it could get hot enough to ignite. I’m also assuming there’s not enough oxygen inside the housing for it to catch fire for long. However, as with any aftermarket modification, please proceed at your own risk!

  • @bunster4322
    @bunster4322 ปีที่แล้ว

    i see that it was already a month, how are they fairing? i Currently got Xenons in ny passat b6 but Saw there are options for Led bulbs, do they help you?

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  ปีที่แล้ว

      They are working well and I love them so far! They help a lot!

  • @VorsprungDurchNik
    @VorsprungDurchNik 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    B6 Audis with the bixenon projectors were notorious for the projector bowls losing their reflective coating. If you want LEDs, the best way (which is also the only legit way) is to replace the HID projectors with LED projectors. Morimoto makes an incredible LED projector that replaces the bixenon projector in the B6 headlight perfectly - same size, uses the same mounting points, exact match.

    • @kohlpee3732
      @kohlpee3732 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can tell you by experience, Morimoto's reflector bowl is far inferior than OEM's. The reflector coating is not that good.The reflector bowl's reflectiveness in the OP's testing has nothing to do with the difference of the lighting output because he used the same reflector bowl housing. The only change he did was the bulbs.

    • @VorsprungDurchNik
      @VorsprungDurchNik หลายเดือนก่อน

      @kohlpee3732 Yes, and the real problem with all these crappy "retrofit" LED bulbs chinengineered to replace legitimate HID and halogen bulbs is the fact that they just splatter light everywhere, not just in the focal area, which gives the perception to those behind them as being "better" when in reality they're actually worse (way too much foreground illumination and tons of unaimed, unshielded glare).

  • @Lonnie91a
    @Lonnie91a ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The inside of your Oem projectors are burnt and darkened. You need to replace the projector reflector bowl to get them bright again.

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the info! I’m pretty sure it was the ballast that was on its way out but I’ll check out the projector again. Either way, the lights are insanely bright now

    • @erikprivette4765
      @erikprivette4765 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Fizzo20 I'm guessing that you bypassed the original ballasts, or the new LEDs would have died immediately. That said, I'm impressed that the beam pattern/cutoff was so close to the stock HIDs. That's the hardest part to dial in with any LED replacement in a factory HID projector. Or even harder to accomplish is getting that pattern correct with a factory halogen projector to LED swap. I have Morimoto Mini H1 projectors retrofitted into my old school Toyota Tundra housings, and running Morimoto H1 HID bulbs. It's awesome. I have tried roughly 5 different Amazon LED bulbs in the setup, and nothing would line up properly. So I'm sticking with HID in my case!

    • @A4rings110
      @A4rings110 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fizzo20 Glad you are happy with your setup now! One thing to note, if your ballast was on its way out, it would either turn the lights on or not at all. There would be no in between. In your case, id be 98% sure that the main culprit was a burnt projector bowl. Which is why even when you changed to LED, the dimness still followed. More than likely, the reason your lens looked pitted was the reflective coating of the bowl burning up and leaving residue on the inside of the lens.

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Erik Yeah maybe it is in fact a burnt reflector bowl and not the ballast causing the dimmer output. I'm also impressed with the cutoff beam; I was a but skeptical when I saw that the connector was placed slightly higher on the LED bulb but luckily it all lined up! Morimoto has some wicked products, good to hear some positive feedback on them👍🏼

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @sasha Good to know, thanks! That makes more sense.

  • @nelq8186
    @nelq8186 ปีที่แล้ว

    thinking of doing the same for my E90. Mine is also d1s. I changed the HID bulb to 6000k HID but i dunno if they will last. how is it holding up???

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So far the LEDs are holding up great! Super bright, I'm pretty happy with them👍🏼

    • @300spartan2222
      @300spartan2222 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fizzo20 2008 mustang bullitt d3r xenons here... after 3 months they shine 50% less :(
      Will try to mount Xstorm D3R LED replacement for it ^^

  • @darrenjohnson1952
    @darrenjohnson1952 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Swapping back made a massive difference.. now they look Equal..

  • @gregabesames9297
    @gregabesames9297 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Non OEM replacement LEDs produce a glare that can blind on-coming traffic when used with non specific headlight housings and lenses. Pisses me off specially when not aimed properly. Worst on higher vehicles like trucks, pickups, vans and suvs. All around, LEDs can produce a whiter to bluish light, but HIDs are better on long range illumination and in inclement weather.

    • @kohlpee3732
      @kohlpee3732 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is true if you have a reflector housing but not true with halogen projectors.

  • @robertplant6667
    @robertplant6667 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Heart tells me LED, brain tells me Philips Xtreme Vision gen2. I do a lot of driving in the night and probably xenon would be the right choice. Now i have Osram CBB and they were great.

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fair enough! HIDs are tried and true and arguably better than LED in some cases. I think HID has more range/distance so might be better on highway vs. city for example. But so far the LEDs have been great around the city

    • @A4rings110
      @A4rings110 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If your projector was designed for HID's and you already have CBB's in there, I wouldnt bother changing that setup unless the bulbs are a few yrs old. You arent going to get a boost in output unless you modify/upgrade the projectors. Definitely don't slap LED's in an HID projector.

    • @paulsp2693
      @paulsp2693 ปีที่แล้ว

      i used to belive the same thing until tried led bulbs and I'm not going back to HID.

    • @kohlpee3732
      @kohlpee3732 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My testing shows LED is better than HID's. Using Philips Xtreme Vision Gen2 6000K vs Sealight X4i bulbs 6500K. Once you have a chance to test it yourself between the 2, you will agree wiht me. 😉

  • @আবুবকর-ন১ধ
    @আবুবকর-ন১ধ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    when did you want replace your cracked windscreen
    pls no asslicker answer

  • @আবুবকর-ন১ধ
    @আবুবকর-ন১ধ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blb replacement on Audi is complet front with headlight and bumper removal 😆😆😆😆

  • @804MRMAN
    @804MRMAN ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Hid projectors and Halogen/Led projectors are NOT THE SAME! They each have different style of lenses and housings.*

    • @kohlpee3732
      @kohlpee3732 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can only speak for what I have tested and can tell what I found different. After market HID projectors particularly Morimoto - the only one I tested, does not have good reflector bowl coating compared to my OEM halogen reflector bowl. OEM was like a mirror, the Morimoto although still has a reflector properties was not as good. Now Comparing my OEM HID Toyota Venza with a new 6K bulb vs my Sienna with with a new LED bulb in a halogen projector housing, the LED bulb beat my OEM HID's performance.

  • @jonmanilenio
    @jonmanilenio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you should standardize testing of lux based on the distance of 10m, then putting the lux meter on the correct area of the light which is 1.5 degrees down, 2 degrees to the right (for reference: th-cam.com/video/ODU-l_G8B2s/w-d-xo.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE) to find the one with the best lux or candela result. Your right seems to be lower than the left though? Isn't is supposed to be the other way around?

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, again only supposed to be a real world test. I was doing it already so figured I’d make a video. Based on what other commenters are saying, the right side reflector bowl was likely burned, reducing light output. Swapping the headlight housing back to the original fixed it.

  • @TakeThis_L
    @TakeThis_L ปีที่แล้ว

    Calgary? nice

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep!

  • @adgechen1092
    @adgechen1092 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn’t let the hid warm up

    • @kohlpee3732
      @kohlpee3732 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even if it is warmed up, you get the same results. All it does with warming up an HID changes color until it stabilizes to a certain wavelength or color.

  • @boliteracku
    @boliteracku 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sry bad englulish i have a4 b8 with xenons can i just put led bulps or i need to change something ?

    • @Fizzo20
      @Fizzo20  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it depends on the type of headlight you buy. Make sure you look for something “plug-n-play”. In my case it was plug-n-play and I left the original ballasts in the headlights as they were

  • @arZenReiki
    @arZenReiki ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤❤❤

  • @streetdisciple30
    @streetdisciple30 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    video too long jus get to the point