Goku: The Story You Never Knew

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  • Goku is the most powerful Saiyan to ever live. His name lives on in the hearts and minds of millions. What made Goku so powerful, so great? Was it being a really fucking fast eater? Maybe it was his incredible spikywithoutanyhairgel hair? Or is there something deeper going on? Join your host, Grant, as he reveals the true source of Goku's power! - in Goku (Dragon Ball Z): The Story You Never Knew!
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  • @argus2389
    @argus2389 8 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I've had this question for a long time, what the hell does the J stand for in SSJ

    • @Treesicle
      @Treesicle  8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Jin. It's Japanese and means "god" I believe.

    • @Treesicle
      @Treesicle  8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      or something like that.

    • @darrickfranklin7096
      @darrickfranklin7096 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Argus it's how they say Saiyan in Japanese instead it's Saiyajin or Saijin I don't completely remember.

    • @zachneedles2786
      @zachneedles2786 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      in japenese saiyans are called saiyijans

    • @zachneedles2786
      @zachneedles2786 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      sayijins

  • @Rain-cb1sv
    @Rain-cb1sv 8 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Didnt Goku say he could've beaten fat buu with SSJ3 but didn't for 2 reasons
    1. SSJ3 drained his KI and time on earth.
    2. He wanted to give the little ones a chance at saving the world(Trunks and Goten) by teaching them the fusion dance.

    • @valornation9845
      @valornation9845 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Joshu :/ just sayin it didn't drain stamina cause he was dead that's why he learned how to used it

    • @rolandodr98
      @rolandodr98 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      More like it drained the time he had left on Earth

    • @code-dark
      @code-dark 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL

    • @stealthyarcher1382
      @stealthyarcher1382 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It drained his time on earth since he was dead. And generally it does consume a lot ki. That’s why he doesn’t use it

  • @1guitarfreak4
    @1guitarfreak4 8 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    Vegeta was the stronger one when they first met

    • @BustasGirl1
      @BustasGirl1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No goku still was but only cause he knew the kiao ken

    • @tavonsnow6868
      @tavonsnow6868 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Matthew Thompson no it didn't matter goku was wasted after and vegeta was in a better condition so Vegeta was stronger

    • @BustasGirl1
      @BustasGirl1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tavon Snow no something as small as that does not prove anything goku probaly could of got up but why would he when krillins dealing with the situation

    • @juan6580
      @juan6580 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ReZolute THANK YOU

    • @ahmedeyuptarkan9486
      @ahmedeyuptarkan9486 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ReZolute But goku had the edge with kaioken

  • @awsomeboxhead
    @awsomeboxhead 8 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    The sad thing is, despite goku being pure and selfless and what not, while Vegeta is a dick, at least Vegeta was always a better parent than goku.

    • @NinjaNedX_Prime
      @NinjaNedX_Prime 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sadly true

    • @theradionicrevival8068
      @theradionicrevival8068 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      awsomeboxhead krrillin and piccolo are better parents than both of them

    • @NinjaNedX_Prime
      @NinjaNedX_Prime 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Radionic Revival
      i like how piccolo is a better parent and he reproduces asexually since namekians don't have gender differences. I feel like the dbz creators just make fun of goku and vegeta with that

    • @theradionicrevival8068
      @theradionicrevival8068 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      NinjaNedX But vegeta's different too in his own right judging by bardock and most sayians actions most sayians care little for family including goku like goku is not as family orriented as vegeta he cares when his friends die he has the same feeling when his family dies
      to vegeta friends mean nothing family is everything vegeta has almost killed himself for his family and would probably kill thousaunds even goku to protect his family which is astounding he didn't even feel that way after trunks born
      it was when future trunks died his value for family went up more and more

    • @SquadGasm
      @SquadGasm 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      awsomeboxhead
      no goku was the better parent vegeta barely spent time with trunks and only trained with him ONE TIME. goku helped gohan fight and unlock his inner strength

  • @aysh1321
    @aysh1321 8 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Vegeta was stronger than goku when they first met. If the other z fighters werent there, goku would die to great ape vegeta without a doubt.....

    • @TylzorJPG
      @TylzorJPG 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that is true

    • @Alienldr
      @Alienldr 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's still a wonder how they took him down like that. Gohan and Krillin were a little stronger than Raditz, and Goku had a power level of 8,000/9,000 and Great Ape Vegeta was at 180,000. That is a big power gap, considering how Goku bodied the Ginyu force members at 90,000, and the Z fighters were no ginyu force when fighting Great Ape Vegeta.

    • @sbless41
      @sbless41 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alienldr where is it stated that vegeta great ape is 180,000? Don't say daizenshu or however you spell it because that's known to be false

    • @Alienldr
      @Alienldr 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was it not stated that Vegeta was at 18,000? or somewhere in that ballpark? The great ape transformation is a x10 multiplier, so 18,000 times 10 is 180,000.

    • @sbless41
      @sbless41 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alienldr its a x10 multi? Where is that said bro this is news to me lmfao

  • @hatef7023
    @hatef7023 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    the most kind hearted people are the ones you do not want to see angry

  • @exalted5203
    @exalted5203 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Goku is a selfish guy who gets stronger for fun to fight even stronger oponents, while Gohan who wanted nothing but to protect life he even hated fighting and look how far that got him

    • @alimbowman3675
      @alimbowman3675 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DrFrankenDeath not far

    • @exalted5203
      @exalted5203 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alim Bowman ye that was my point

    • @DrRandomGuru
      @DrRandomGuru 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      DrFrankenDeath You're a Gohan fan right?

    • @elcambiollego
      @elcambiollego 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he got LAID with Videl

    • @exalted5203
      @exalted5203 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      KentrosVoltage I was trying to say he didnt get far ;p and also Im a teen Gohan fan not the current

  • @stevemanart
    @stevemanart 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    11:28 A quote from Doctor Who really speaks to this point about Goku, imo. "Devils run when a good man goes to war."

    • @stevemanart
      @stevemanart 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      14:50 spoiler, but they are. Kaio-shin and Kaio-sama are both terms for god. and in Super they specifically refer to themselves as the gods of life, and Beerus as the god of destruction, and in Heros/XV Chronoa as the god of time.

  • @DackLazy
    @DackLazy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    a power level of 3000 is what it takes to destroy a planet not 300

    • @luigiluigi4366
      @luigiluigi4366 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Energetic™ Cuunt™ but master roshi with a power level of 180 destroys a moon?

    • @DackLazy
      @DackLazy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Cleveland brown a moon is much smaller than a planet and remember he didnt completely destroy it

    • @mohamedred5746
      @mohamedred5746 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Energetic™ Cuunt™
      in the manga he destroy it completely...

    • @DackLazy
      @DackLazy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      mohamed houari oh really? I didnt know that but the moon is still many times smaller than the earth so it should be easier to destroy the moon than the earth so it still makes sense

    • @demoysamuels9213
      @demoysamuels9213 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Roshi would destroy the earth too. think of how far the moon is and roshi was able to fire a blast long enough to travel billions of mile to the moon and destroy it.

  • @_R0R_
    @_R0R_ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    dragon ball z is confusing AF if you've never watched it

    • @Treesicle
      @Treesicle  8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      HAVE YOU NEVER WATCHED IT??! It's okay I'm not mad.

    • @sempaigvd
      @sempaigvd 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      amen

    • @ssj1k650
      @ssj1k650 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Regan O'Rourke wait you've never watched it

    • @feddythehim7897
      @feddythehim7897 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then why do I understand the whole story

    • @natileroxs5226
      @natileroxs5226 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You've never watched it?! YOU NEED TO WATCH IT RIGHT NOW!!!

  • @alexanderalleyne9391
    @alexanderalleyne9391 8 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Goku could have killed majin buu but he wanted to give the kids a try at majin buu

    • @ssj1k564
      @ssj1k564 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Alexander Alleyne yeah cause if he didn't they'd get lazy and had like just a day

  • @kingshifty557
    @kingshifty557 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    dubbed Goku:Hero
    Japanese Goku:I wanna git stronger

  • @fripplaysfrippid6379
    @fripplaysfrippid6379 8 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    Goku didn't fight to protect everyone, he fought to because he loved it, and because he wanted to get more powerful, Goku is actually pretty selfish but when he needs to, he fights to protect everyone. Gohan was the only person to just fight and get more powerful to protect everyone just saying

    • @andriuszurba6124
      @andriuszurba6124 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah... Blame old Funimation dub for confusing people that Goku is Japanese Superman.

    • @shanna-gayejames2760
      @shanna-gayejames2760 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FripPlays [Frippid]

    • @theliveing
      @theliveing 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      FripPlays [Frippid]
      I was certain they'd bring it up, but yeah. That's pretty much his biggest reason for becoming stronger.. Being good also has lead to him allowing some of his enemies to live and come back stronger, so he can surpass his limits yet again.

    • @lilts1
      @lilts1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      AND THAT'S THE STORY I NEVER KNEWWWWWWWWW!!!

    • @Swamu
      @Swamu 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      he is training to get stronger to save the earth and the universe

  • @anuel3780
    @anuel3780 8 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    11:31
    Pure of heart
    Awakened By Furry

    • @rgderen88
      @rgderen88 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't be fooled- he's pushing the damn liberal furry-loving agenda! Down with the furries!

    • @brennend.8629
      @brennend.8629 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol.

    • @karmaTKFL
      @karmaTKFL 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      % H0cus_P

    • @Raul_Menendez
      @Raul_Menendez 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guynimator the Terrible Bruh

    • @daletrigg1485
      @daletrigg1485 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guynimator the Terrible why did you qort that

  • @michaellang3195
    @michaellang3195 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are so dead on with universal concepts that I'm gonna subscribe!! Very well done!!!

  • @AyseeMD
    @AyseeMD 8 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    "Vegeta is basically Goku's rival throughout the whole series." YOU MEAN HALF! THROUGHOUT BASICALLY HALF THE WHOLE SERIES!

    • @SuperMarioLuis64
      @SuperMarioLuis64 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dragon Phantom of DEATH!
      more 4/5

    • @AyseeMD
      @AyseeMD 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Creationer No, half, Boyhood-Saiyan arc is about half of the manga, and Vegeta isn't Goku's rival in GT. So that's about half of the anime series, Vegeta is only Goku's rival from maybe Freeza until the defeat of Majin Boo. And Dragon Ball Super.

    • @SuperMarioLuis64
      @SuperMarioLuis64 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was only doing DB and DBZ, since its separated into two series from Anime and Manga, its earlier in Z (plus easier to categorizs). They still are very much rivals to this day, just not as mean spirited. Vegeta clearly says in RoF that he keeps around Goku cause he's his drive to get stronger

    • @SuperMarioLuis64
      @SuperMarioLuis64 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dragon Phantom of DEATH!
      In the Buu saga, they temporarily put their rivalry aside to face a bigger threat

    • @AyseeMD
      @AyseeMD 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Creationer No they aren't, in the manga there's no such thing as Dragon Ball Z, and in the anime they're two shows a part of the same series. They even aired the first episode of Dragon Ball Z just after the last episode of Dragon Ball, and Dragon Ball GT the week after Dragon Ball Z.

  • @truthgategames6148
    @truthgategames6148 8 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    This is the Americanized bastardization of Goku... That Goku doesn't represent the writers original intent and is pretty much a different character than the Goku in the original Japanese dub. Goku's power comes from his pure desire to push himself forward due to being unsatisfied with whatever his current limit is. Others want strength and power also but Goku only fights for the joy of it. Even when everythings at stake Goku's not there to save you. He's there for the challenge... saving your life was just a bonus. In other words if Goku was an NBA player(highest paid player) he'd turn down his salary... He doesn't play for the fame or perks. He's in it for the love of the game. Being in the NBA will allow him to play against stronger opponents. Still an entertaining video but this isn't Goku.

    • @Ziscor_
      @Ziscor_ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Well said. American Dub needed a typical hero character for their dub so kids could relate to it. That "ally to good, nightmare to you" line speaks it all. Goku'd never say that.
      At the same time, Goku isn't completely unattached from saving innocent people. He does care, but not to the point you can call him your perfect good hero that you'd compare to someone like Super Man. When everything is at stake he knows in the back of his mind he has to save you, I'd say. Throughout Dragon Ball and Super there is enough non-tainted evidence that can say Goku does, in fact, want people to be safe. When everyone has been saved is when he'll love to fight the enemy just for the sheer fun of it and all.
      When it comes to prioritisation, I'd say he'll make sure the people he cares about are safe before or while he challenges the enemy to a fight. The people he personally cares about specifically. The rest are disposable as long as Goku knows they have the Dragon Balls to revive them.

    • @OverthereLook
      @OverthereLook 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      sorry bro, bandwagon's full. rage later k?

    • @truthgategames6148
      @truthgategames6148 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      OverthereLook Nah... I grew up with the American Goku and I actually prefer him. I struggled watching the Japanese version becasue it was so different. Abridged > Funimation dub > Japanese dub. I like the manga best though

    • @OverthereLook
      @OverthereLook 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      TruthGate Games cool then

    • @KetchupRevenge
      @KetchupRevenge 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is 100% the truth. The Goku that we know from the FUNImation dub is completely unlike the one that we know from the original Japanese version. Goku is a simple idiot who has an unhealthy obsession with fighting. That's the limit of his character. Heroism always comes second. So as bad-ass as the "Ally to good" speech is, it's completely misguided.

  • @Tasuke
    @Tasuke 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pretty good video! You hit a lot of the big points about Goku. One thing I think you should have brought it, though, is the fact that Goku constantly tries to go beyond his limits and break previous thresholds. It's not just his teachers that made him stronger but also his drive to improve. He wants to protect his friends and family and such but he also wants to keep getting stronger and improve himself. Remember, the whole reason why he went off to train with Master Roshi was because he wanted to get stronger and fight strong fighters. That was the only think that I think should have been mentioned in the video. Good work!

  • @PeterProductiveHQ
    @PeterProductiveHQ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    BUT GRANT! You could send ice- cream in a freezer! That's the gift EVERYONE wants!

    • @Treesicle
      @Treesicle  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Shipping expenses would be a NIGHTMARE.
      Okay I'll do it.

  • @Emilowish
    @Emilowish 8 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Have you seen Dragon Ball Super?

  • @yura50597
    @yura50597 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Goku would have failed at destroying the Earth,if he hadn't forgotten his mission.

  • @gdavis2bn
    @gdavis2bn 8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    hmm Vegeta is 2nd best yet ..Whis and Beerus say otherwise
    The Kai's are calling the shots??? nah

    • @myriverrose
      @myriverrose 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If I remember rightly, Vegeta is better in outright power but he isn't able to move freely in battle in the same way as Goku does because he thinks too much, plus he doesn't have access to the Keioken, something that has allowed goku to push things in his favour frequently.

    • @Joonsday1
      @Joonsday1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Julian Giddings but vegeta is stronger than goku after the goku black saga

    • @gokucrash9908
      @gokucrash9908 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Julian Giddings what whis said is that goku is stronger than vegeta because he isn't always so uptight

    • @facebeeotch
      @facebeeotch 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kai's are definitely calling the shots, Supreme Kai's life is tied directly to Beerus and by extension, Whis. If he dies, they die too.

    • @theliveing
      @theliveing 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      facebeeotch
      Neat~

  • @carson34
    @carson34 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    In the manga goku could have destoryed buu but he didnt because he wanted goten and trucks to do it

    • @carson34
      @carson34 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      fat buu btw

    • @kenpachi2607
      @kenpachi2607 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Jean Paul Lopez didn't they mention that in the anime too

    • @nothinghere6236
      @nothinghere6236 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Antonio groomes they did

    • @DH1986
      @DH1986 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      He arrives at the lookout and says to Piccolo that he's not strong enough to put down Buu on his own. He then complains that he has no one to fuze with since Vegeta and Gohan are dead and the two had to be similar. I think Popo is the one to suggest Goten and Trunks to do the fusion.

  • @JT5555
    @JT5555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wait,Wait Wait.... *GOKU IS PURE OF HEART BECAUSE OF BRAIN DAMAGE?O_O*

    • @justindeliwe8065
      @justindeliwe8065 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He would be like any saiyan like Vegeta, Nappa and Raditz if he had not got brain damage

  • @jasonwu1847
    @jasonwu1847 8 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I could tell you only watch the English dub

    • @rgderen88
      @rgderen88 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Freaking weeaboos...
      *judgemental three eyed stare*

    • @jasonwu1847
      @jasonwu1847 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +rgderen88 why 3

    • @temari105
      @temari105 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      jason wu Because he's woke Son!!!

    • @jasonwu1847
      @jasonwu1847 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +temari105 I still don't get it

    • @MILDMONSTER1234
      @MILDMONSTER1234 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      rgderen88 The Dub has good voices yeah but they get the character of Goku completely wrong

  • @dawg4769
    @dawg4769 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    All these people saying goku fought for the challenge and saving people was a plus, No it's actually the other way around. Goku grew to love earth and his friends which inhabited it. His sole purpose was to protect. I don't understand how you could say otherwise.

    • @JohnDemetriou
      @JohnDemetriou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually, original dub shows that Goku loved the challenge, saving people was a plus, unless some cases with his friends. While in English dub he is shown as a hero with no personal interest in power, just save the world

    • @jujubee7222
      @jujubee7222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I say that because I actually read the manga and know what he canonically says and how those words relate to his actions. You can argue it’s the way you say it is in the English dub of Z but you cannot claim it’s that way in the actual source material or even in Kai or the original Japanese version of the anime for that matter. A majority of the time Goku fights for the challenge and saving people is a plus. Of course there exceptions like when Tambourine kills Kurririn, steals the four star Dragon ball, and destroys the Kinto Un (or flying Nimbus). causing Goku to have a more personal vendetta against Tambourine and by extension King Piccolo who also ends up murdering a lot of Gokus friends and even the eternal Dragon. A vendetta that goes beyond than just: “you’re strong let’s fight”. In this case Goku fights to avenge his friends. But this is the exception not the rule. In a majority of cases Goku fights because he wants likes to fight not to save people. hell, he even spares the life of Piccolo Jr.; an extremely dangerous and powerful guy who almost killed Goku, so that he can have a powerful rival to fight later but I’ll give this some leeway because it’s also because killing Piccolo also kills Kami and this is the more obvious reason Goku gives. But in undeniable proof that Goku fights for challenge Goku spares Vegeta. Kurririn wants to kill Vegeta because Vegeta killed all of his friends but Goku insists on sparing his life saying “When I saw he was about to die all I could think is what a waste. I trained under Kaio the lord of worlds... I thought I hit the peak of power but Vegeta was so far above me! I was shocked... scared. But somewhere deep inside I was happy, I was thrilled to be fighting such power. I guess it’s my saiyan blood... it’s not smart I know. But next time I swear I’ll surpass him... Gonna beat him! I know it’s wrong but please! Let me do it myself!” and in the end Kurririn reluctantly drops the sword out of respect for Goku and his wishes. This is exactly what happens and what is said in the manga which is THE ORIGINAL SOURCE MATERIAL. Looking at a line like that I can’t see how you’d think Goku is some completely selfless hero unless you’re watching the funimation dub of Dragon ball Z where they CHANGED GOKUS LINES and by doing that changed the context of the scene to make Goku seem more heroic than he actually is for western audiences. There are plenty more examples in Super but I think I’ve made my point here Goku isn’t the superhero archetype you think he is. He’s a guy who likes to fight

    • @God_Is_An_Atheist
      @God_Is_An_Atheist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jujubee7222 iirc Goku even mentions several times in Z and Super that he always loved to fight but didn't know exactly why until he found out that he was a Saiyan. The sole reason for the tournament in Super is basically just Goku wanting to fight against strong people to push himself to his limits, he doesn't even seem to care if the Universe gets destroyed.

  • @e7005
    @e7005 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you also forgot that goku is also more accepting to learn from people, when goku explained how he learned to use instant transmision vegeta called them weaklings implying that if he was in gokus position he wouldnt bother to learn anytbing from them cause he thinks theyre below him but goku accepts training from EVERYBODY

    • @e7005
      @e7005 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      *anything

  • @arcticcockatiel3783
    @arcticcockatiel3783 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    are you trying to say demons run when a good man goes to war

  • @Treesicle
    @Treesicle  8 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    How's your day goin today? Reply below to grow my e-peen. Current status: 8=D
    p.s. rip Prince :c

  • @mushywatermelon1410
    @mushywatermelon1410 8 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Did Goku ever go to the restroom to poop or pee?

    • @ssj1k564
      @ssj1k564 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chewychowder Star never maybe saiyans don't poop

    • @Joellations
      @Joellations 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Chewychowder Star yes in the original dragon ball

    • @Speed001
      @Speed001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He only pees as far as I know.

    • @mareekp
      @mareekp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AllanJelly Vlogs yes

    • @choklatyshabx5609
      @choklatyshabx5609 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch super

  • @markotuna
    @markotuna 8 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    ok first of all: its literaly stated in the anime why goku is stronger than vegeta. secondly: Goku WAS able to beat fat buu as a SSJ3 but he didnt want to cuz he wanted to "leave some fun for the kids" and he was "already dead so it wasnt his problem to solve". he is no hero, his drive to fight isnt protecting people, its being the best you can be. as admirable as that is, its not a heroic act for the sake of being a hero. and all of that "hero Goku" jazz comes from dubisms. just watch the original show in Japanese and youll get it. goku is a selfish lovable goof, protects when its needed, but his only drive when times are peacefull is BEING THE STRONGEST THERE IS. And your entire god hierarchy falls to shit with the introduction of Dragonball Super :P

    • @foxcloak
      @foxcloak 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      but I will give him his point about the trainers, in super there has been a few moments where vegeta has passed goku even if it is only for a short time, and if not they are closer to equal than they ever have been before. I think a lot of the reason why they are closer is because they are both training under whis rather than just goku, with Vegey going off and doing his own thing.

    • @rabinajid3168
      @rabinajid3168 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      marko cinut not true. hey is selfish but if he's friends die. hey will have a problome with that. and he's kids.

    • @MILDMONSTER1234
      @MILDMONSTER1234 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      marko cinut Kai made him less selfless too

    • @SuperMarioLuis64
      @SuperMarioLuis64 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      marko cinut or Z Kai, they got his personality right

    • @AngelOfTheEnd
      @AngelOfTheEnd 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      marko cinut

  • @vishwashthapa4131
    @vishwashthapa4131 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    good video bro love your storytelling 👍

    • @Treesicle
      @Treesicle  8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks breh!

    • @sallyjanewalker1870
      @sallyjanewalker1870 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vishwash Thapa you are right

    • @fatceaserdagreat241
      @fatceaserdagreat241 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Treesicle Very different from the rest of the z fan made junk!I truly enjoyed it mostly because it was funny!

    • @nicksonnier4708
      @nicksonnier4708 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vishwash Thapa

    • @nicksonnier4708
      @nicksonnier4708 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vishwash Thapappi,

  • @Boney4000
    @Boney4000 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    the script writing and the matter of fact, untelegraphed joke delivery is awesome. I wish I could subscribe twice...

  • @JadedWarlock
    @JadedWarlock 8 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    What about when it comes to parenting? Surely Vegeta has Goku beat there?

    • @theliveing
      @theliveing 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      hollowosamudiamen Shockingly.. You may have a point..

    • @Versitax
      @Versitax 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      hollowosamudiamen actually, probably not. Remember when Vegeta said he never hugged Trunks when he was a baby?

    • @JadedWarlock
      @JadedWarlock 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      But he was there. Compare that to Gohan.

    • @vossburton3437
      @vossburton3437 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hollowosamudiamen no, Goku wasn't there for Gohan cuz he was dead or training to protect the earth and Gohan.

    • @argus2389
      @argus2389 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If there was a battle between who was the best father in DBZ, Piccolo would win, but Vegeta would be second

  • @trashguybob
    @trashguybob 8 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    He said Kayo-ken. Not even people who watch the dub religiously say that. I beg, never again, it is Kaio-Ken.

    • @Neeraj-ew5os
      @Neeraj-ew5os 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea

    • @moyashihogo8177
      @moyashihogo8177 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Austin Smith I don't care either way.

    • @thebadger4040
      @thebadger4040 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ... There's a diffrence?

    • @killerleemstar7501
      @killerleemstar7501 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheBadger 40 its actually pronounced ( ki yo ken) not ( kayoken)

    • @Neeraj-ew5os
      @Neeraj-ew5os 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** i get that Carrot is Kakkarot that is goku and Vegeta is Vegetable but who is Geets ?

  • @jeremiahmurphy1794
    @jeremiahmurphy1794 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kind of already knew this. I figured all this by watching the series over and over again, from dragon ball to super, throughout my childhood. The show is pretty self explanatory, but you're doing good for those that can't or don't understand. ;)

  • @MultiRamdomSTUFF
    @MultiRamdomSTUFF 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I already knew this.

    • @synchron1805
      @synchron1805 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vytokine same

    • @synchron1805
      @synchron1805 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Vytokine I honestly thought it was a story I actually didn't know

    • @aa.xviiii
      @aa.xviiii 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vytokine ya

    • @aa.xviiii
      @aa.xviiii 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vytokine what about dbz super

    • @aa.xviiii
      @aa.xviiii 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vytokine this is the old season, vegeta is gokus best friends now

  • @letsplayrandomgames6228
    @letsplayrandomgames6228 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I swear this channel had 5 million subscribers

    • @Treesicle
      @Treesicle  8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      SOON!

    • @granpancho4633
      @granpancho4633 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let's play Random games me too XD

    • @lostsouls1919
      @lostsouls1919 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Treesicle remove the R and one E and add a T after the S = testicle

  • @forsetigodofjusticeexcelle7506
    @forsetigodofjusticeexcelle7506 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Been a huge fan of DBZ since my balls were inert"
    Wonderful! and relatable to so many people! +1

  • @elicaraballo5986
    @elicaraballo5986 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can't watch DBZ anymore without expecting TFS.

  • @joehan6674
    @joehan6674 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    -Titles it ''the story you never knew''
    -Rambles on about shit EVERYBODY knows.

    • @therealmohammad
      @therealmohammad 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe han I didn’t know he was always better than vegeta, I thought vegeta was better than him in the saiyan saga

  • @dimensionalthief9178
    @dimensionalthief9178 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "A mind that is pure a mind that could be trusted" a mind who is so obsessed with fighting that he doesn't care about his family

  • @SabinFain
    @SabinFain 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Actually, as a baby, as implied in the intro... he was weaker than ANY other saiyan.

    • @SabinFain
      @SabinFain 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Btw, Dragonball Z Kai was not as good as Dragonball Z to me.

    • @SabinFain
      @SabinFain 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cheezl I meant that it is my opinion.

    • @colinakersakers44
      @colinakersakers44 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Final Shine he was born with a power level of 2.

    • @sofakingonmynuts1438
      @sofakingonmynuts1438 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      i watched kia for the first time a few months ago, before that i only watched the funi dub. it was fun getting a new look to the story without all the filler, although i do like me some dbz filler. i got to say kia was good but i hate the inrto oh god i hate it

    • @jam3sdav1s117
      @jam3sdav1s117 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      are you kidding me? Kia is terriable!!!! that's like saying GT is fun to watch. no! it's terriable, a spoof, and none cannon.

  • @AnubisBlu
    @AnubisBlu 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    when is the story you never knew about me gonna be out

    • @gamingburg5008
      @gamingburg5008 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scarce's Flannel I love your name tbh xD

    • @sinclairlax24
      @sinclairlax24 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Scarce's Flannel when he double uploads

  • @bittersprout3694
    @bittersprout3694 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Treesicle: just doin baby talk
    Gohan: with my own father?

  • @dunkleneff4853
    @dunkleneff4853 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Hey Grant, can u do one on Saitama (One Punch Man)

  • @theuxecrew
    @theuxecrew 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    In that God section where is beerus whis and the Omni King?

    • @Jaye3rd89
      @Jaye3rd89 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      theuxecrew Beerus/Whis are polar opposite of the Kai.....Kai create Beerus Destroys. Zeno would be at the top considering he basically is king of all the universes.

    • @twintailsgaming8039
      @twintailsgaming8039 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      but they still did forget the rest of the gods

    • @Jaye3rd89
      @Jaye3rd89 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      TwinTails Gaming such as?

    • @pancakes2791
      @pancakes2791 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, considering they mostly stuck with just DBZ, and not really talking at all about super since it is such a new series, I think its fine. Plus most of the comparisons were between Goku and Vegeta anyways and the majority of Vegita's character development comes from DBZ.

    • @colekennedy8041
      @colekennedy8041 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jaye3rd89 Beerus whis omni champa ect

  • @XxInfinityxXTimer
    @XxInfinityxXTimer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goku is like that one high rank player that don't even smurf. He rather go after pros instead

  • @samuelrodriguez9801
    @samuelrodriguez9801 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    kais actually are gods.

    • @tldr585
      @tldr585 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No shit

  • @IzayaOrihara333
    @IzayaOrihara333 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    *You know what I'm Saiyan?*

    • @saiyanmeow9028
      @saiyanmeow9028 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ______ that's my line.

    • @redboy3743
      @redboy3743 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ______ mr._____ u suk

    • @redboy3743
      @redboy3743 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ______ ur name is lined pretty well

    • @sonnyh.8212
      @sonnyh.8212 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ______ Saiyan what?

  • @bubblespop5299
    @bubblespop5299 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    goku has done so many things to protect his friends and galaxy, and his selfless is what got him to super saiyan when his friend died

  • @S3RN719
    @S3RN719 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nappa - Vegeta's Bald sidekick.

  • @JayboCorp.2014
    @JayboCorp.2014 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    10 day early birthday present thank you! 😸

    • @lxd0l250
      @lxd0l250 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jaybo Corp.™ o

  • @TheGeckoNinja
    @TheGeckoNinja 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    that actually explains a lot about gokus power hes been trained by the best and his pure of heart nature allowed him to be accepted by the best

  • @Knight_Astolfo
    @Knight_Astolfo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Can I also point out that the Kai are referred to as gods throughout Dragon Ball Super?

    • @ZyphLegend
      @ZyphLegend 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seraephus because the Kai are the gods of creation in Dragonball.

    • @Knight_Astolfo
      @Knight_Astolfo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, but Tree says in the video "they are not." I just think that fact is left out or not explained until Super.

    • @ZyphLegend
      @ZyphLegend 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seraephus if not, they were definitely I plied to be before Super came out, as that is what I've always thought.

    • @Knight_Astolfo
      @Knight_Astolfo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Japanese, they're even referred to as "界王神" 'kaioshin.' That last character is read "shin" but is also read "kami" or god. The same with Beerus - "破壊神" 'hakaishin.' So it's fairly obvious.

    • @jackdrip8693
      @jackdrip8693 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and the Omni King is the highest of Power

  • @ti2218
    @ti2218 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You should giveaway YOUR HOUSE
    YOUR BELONGINGS
    YOUR FRIENDS
    YOUR FAMILY
    Or just a copy of Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2

    • @ti2218
      @ti2218 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For XBOX ONE
      also loved the dick references~

  • @inscoredbz
    @inscoredbz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    you made a great point on Vegeta. i never thought about it as Goku having all the best teachers. i just seen it as Vegeta not being able to surpass a common ordinary Saiyan. imagine if Vegeta had the same training. who trained Vegeta when he was a child? Frieza, or some of his "henchmen" for lack of a better word.

  • @ethanhoogy
    @ethanhoogy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    that is noT HOW YOU PRONOUNCE KAIOKEN GRANT PLEASE

  • @ChinoWantan
    @ChinoWantan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "power lvl of 300 to destroy a planet an goku have 8M" that's IRL? in the anime? what scale is? where did you get that info? D:

  • @thomaswilson5029
    @thomaswilson5029 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vegeta is also pushed selflessly when Bulma is slapped by Beerus. It is personal feeling for a significant other that gives him that extra push past rage alone.

  • @DragonLordJesus
    @DragonLordJesus 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Pacifist? The hell you mean? Goku loves to fight! Goku fights selfishly, and yes Goku is pure of heart and has protected the world countless times, but at the same time Goku lets foes live so HE CAN FIGHT THEM AGAIN! Your a quarter right, Goku is strong because he has fought to protect, unlike Vegeta, but at the same time his saiyan blood makes kim chase the thrill of the fight. Vegeta is now strong for the same reason, he protects, but he still fight for the thrill.

    • @DragonLordJesus
      @DragonLordJesus 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hell, most of Earth's problems ARE Goku's fault (Besides R&R army, KING Piccolo, and Majin Buu)

    • @SuperMarioLuis64
      @SuperMarioLuis64 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DragonLordJesus
      its because Goku's motivation is pure passion that he'll always be ahead of Vegeta

    • @DragonLordJesus
      @DragonLordJesus 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      WallieUp Even more reason lol

    • @DragonLordJesus
      @DragonLordJesus 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Creationer Thats a good way to explain, Vegeta always used to kill, rather than have fun, he would get rid of the challenge. I guess, still trying to make sense of that. Cause Vegeta is atm stonger

  • @ashtinbswann
    @ashtinbswann 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I WANT ICE CREAM

    • @ashtinbswann
      @ashtinbswann 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please :)

    • @Treesicle
      @Treesicle  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      brb gonna mail you some

    • @ashtinbswann
      @ashtinbswann 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd rather not :)

    • @ashtinbswann
      @ashtinbswann 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      And thanks Treesicle for the ice cream

    • @kriegofficergary6921
      @kriegofficergary6921 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wimpyfox for fuck sake chill 😂. Go Drink water or something

  • @infernocombustion
    @infernocombustion 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goku fights because he loves to fight not because he wants to protect. Him protecting everyone is secondary.

  • @chocomint8261
    @chocomint8261 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:11
    More like
    I am the Hope of the Omniverse
    I am the Lightbulb in the Darkness
    I am the bacon in the fridge for all those who cry out in hunger
    I am the TERROR
    that FLAPS in the NIGHT
    I am Son Goku
    And I am a Super Sai-
    yan.

  • @soggier.
    @soggier. 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Why didn't u use the team four star dub
    Grant

  • @ericbatista7582
    @ericbatista7582 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The story you never knew about Goku: He cares. Wow. Enlightening.

  • @omgitscelly643
    @omgitscelly643 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    his power level is not 8.4 billion they didn't use scouters after the frieza saga

    • @oronk60
      @oronk60 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      famous Dexter cringe.

    • @GokuBurraku
      @GokuBurraku 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, very cringe.

  • @Moth-ManRemasters
    @Moth-ManRemasters 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Vegeta is "pure of heart" as well so this video was useless

    • @PhantomDogman
      @PhantomDogman 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      MIK REACTS Yep that's true. I think it's opposite of Goku's pure of heart. At least in dragon ball z I don't know about super.

    • @AstralComposition
      @AstralComposition 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      MIK REACTS yeah but not as long as goku

    • @bert8904
      @bert8904 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      MIK REACTS evil heart

    • @Vegerotto72
      @Vegerotto72 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alberto the Special if vegeta was evil he wouldn't have been revived in the kid buu saga

    • @cooperblackwell1392
      @cooperblackwell1392 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MIK REACTS you didn't listen to the point, pure heart didn't blow his power level up. it opened doors to opportunity

  • @galaaxcy
    @galaaxcy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "The most constipated man to ever live" XD XD lmao

  • @issjgohan8488
    @issjgohan8488 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I acually already knew this cause I'm a dbz loving nerd

  • @LetsBringPeace
    @LetsBringPeace 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    300 to destroy a planet? no. 8 billion? you pulled that number straight from your backside. Otherwise, cool video.

    • @ethancoffey3139
      @ethancoffey3139 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      But i heard that 300 from some where to

    • @deathlord4874
      @deathlord4874 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His True Power Level Was Really 32.5 Billion Said Form The Co Creator Of Dragon Ball And Dragon Ball z Or Just Even Dragon Ball GT, And Now In Dragon Ball Super It Has Jumped Up To A Good 500 Trill

    • @Najvalsa
      @Najvalsa 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 300 thing is actually measured in kili and not in power level IIRC.
      +Death Lord You don't need to capitalise every word you write, but no that's not true, and you using DBGT as a source proves that.

    • @ME-il4mr
      @ME-il4mr 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alex Di it's been stated in the dragon ball manga that piccolos power level was around 300 and was able to destroy the moon and when they battled it out in the tournament they had around the same power level so it's safe to say

    • @ethan2163
      @ethan2163 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      the earth is 50x bigger in mass/volume

  • @Divine_Finger_er
    @Divine_Finger_er 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly I think the reason he's so strong is all his mentors and the fact that he's been on earth since he was a baby, so he has the regular emotions of a human and not a saiyan, and we all know emotions are what drives a saiyan to become stronge, so in a way even though he's full saiyan he might as well be half human as well if that makes sense lol

  • @moisendayambaje3881
    @moisendayambaje3881 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    goku can not destroy a planet with a sneeze

    • @imranenajja733
      @imranenajja733 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      moise ndayambaje But beerus can

    • @ayushdeshmukh284
      @ayushdeshmukh284 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not in DBZ, but if you apply real life physics to dbz, he definitely can...

    • @tommythevenot7617
      @tommythevenot7617 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably can

    • @inhindsightthatmaybebad9890
      @inhindsightthatmaybebad9890 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was a joke grant was just saying it so you know that Goku is really powerful,he does things like that all the time.

    • @XYZSlyExE
      @XYZSlyExE 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a joke

  • @Coreativity
    @Coreativity 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Did you guys really misspell "Fury"? 🤔

    • @Treesicle
      @Treesicle  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally on purpose.

    • @Coreativity
      @Coreativity 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Treesicle The show would be much more interesting if Goku was pure of heart and awakened by furry though.

    • @TheYoungNinja
      @TheYoungNinja 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Treesicle what about dragon ball super, and battle of gods and fulazu nu F? Was this storyboarded before them?

    • @TheYoungNinja
      @TheYoungNinja 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      PubJubz I for got it was also called Resurrection F u dont have to be so mean about it and i had no intentions of proving my self just because i know the Japanese name

    • @pubjubz
      @pubjubz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      supervegito48 Whatever, I'm outies

  • @johncarter1291
    @johncarter1291 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    treesicle " this guy can destroy the galaxy "
    Zeno "oh yeah riiight"

  • @husseinalsalami2148
    @husseinalsalami2148 8 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Actually as of now (Dragonball Super Episode 69) Goku isn't even close to being the strongest fighter and he is weaker than Vegeta.

    • @sonnywoods6846
      @sonnywoods6846 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Which is why GOku was able to hold off a fused Zamasu with just his Kamehameha alone but a combination of Vegeta and Trunk Barely held him off.

    • @husseinalsalami2148
      @husseinalsalami2148 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sonny Woods which is why it was a plot hole because Goku's Kamehameha wave did more damage to merged Zamasu more than SSGSS Vegetto's Final Kamehameha did. Common sense bro, Dragonball Super fucked up the power scaling which was already fucked during the Buu ark.

    • @sonnywoods6846
      @sonnywoods6846 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So you are saying Goku's Kamehameha made the Goku Black
      side of Zamasu turn into smoke, like how Vegito made his body turn to smoke? I don't remember that happening. I remember Zamasu Black mortal side could not keep up with his immortal side's regenerative abilities. When Goku hit him with the Kamehameha he hit is mortal
      side which caused his body to go out of control because his immortal side and mortal side was not compatible, and in the episode that was the only thing that was damaged.
      But it still doesn't change the fact that Goku was able to overpower Zamasu
      while Vegeta and trunks were not. Goku is stronger than Vegeta. Goku was
      stronger than Vegeta when they first fought black in the future and the only
      difference is that Vegeta went to the room of spirits and time to train.
      Apparently the only thing he did was close the gap between Him and Goku with
      Goku being slightly stronger. People want to claim that Vegeta is stronger than
      Goku because he trained in the Room of Spirits and Time for a day and over
      powered Goku Black. But for some reason they forget that Goku also beat the
      shit out of Goku black and Zamasu, the only reason he lost was
      A. He got stabbed by Goku black. So he was losing Ki from his wounds
      B. He had to fight 2 people not just one like Vegeta so the combination of the
      two was why Goku lost not the one on one.
      C. Black Goku got a Zenkai boost. He also received a Zenkai boost with Vegeta
      but instead of beating his ass he decided to test his new powers.

    • @husseinalsalami2148
      @husseinalsalami2148 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sonny Woods bro, the power scaling in super is shit because raged SSJ2 Vegeta caused Beerus to go to 10% and know they are at SSGSS and trained their asses off with Whis, trained in the place that is like the Room of spirit and time (HTC) inside Whis' staff and trained for three years in the Room of Spirit and Time (HTC) that is on the lookout and their still is a big gap between them and Beerus

    • @husseinalsalami2148
      @husseinalsalami2148 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sonny Woods almost forgot, after all that training Goku went Kaioken x10 and Beerus then was a little worried because he saw that Goku with the Kaioken was (almost) at his level!

  • @TheOriginalCFA1979
    @TheOriginalCFA1979 8 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I hate to break it to you, but you're wrong. And here's why:
    First and foremost, you are mistaken. If you stopped following DBZ at the end of the franchise or consider GT canon, I can see why you'd think the Kai's (IE Supreme Kai's) are like gods.... Buuuut they're not. Dragon Ball Super has recently made it abundantly clear that they are more so watchers, who aren't supposed to get involved in the lives of mortals. In fact, there's a huge portion of the current story arc that boils down to a Kai wanting to get involved in a planet that's "barbaric" and his teacher basically telling him he's a moron, repeatedly. While this doesn't apply to your points of Goku training with King Kai, it does apply to your inference that the Kai's hold down Vegeta.
    Furthermore, none of this is the reason why Goku is more powerful. The reason Goku is more powerful than Vegeta is because Goku is inherently weaker. Now, before you point out the contradiction here, let me explain. When Vegeta was born, he had a high power level. If Baby Vegeta went to earth he would have clapped his hands and everyone would be dead. However, Goku was weak. Far weaker than baby Vegeta. When Goku arrived on earth he was able to be controlled by an exceptionally powerful human until he suffered brain damage and was pacified. Now, this is the turning point for Goku. Goku almost dies, and like all Saiyans, this causes a dramatic increase in his power level when he survived. This singular event is what results in the God Level Goku we all know and love; NOT because he's pure of heart, but because he goes on to train on earth and fight. Now, throughout Dragon Ball and DBZ Goku is repeatedly beaten to within an inch of his life, and repeatedly his power level skyrockets due to this because of the Saiyan's zenkai ability. Each time Goku almost died he also increased his power by a factor of two, if memory serves.
    On the other hand, Vegeta was steam rolling planets and wiping out life, increasing his power level in doing so but never, or rarely, being beaten to within an inch of his life and therefore never incurring a zenkai power boost.
    So the reason why Goku is more powerful isn't some wishy washy "he's pure of heart and that opens doors," it's because he's lost so many fights in his life, versus Vegeta who was inherently more powerful and therefore rarely beaten (also, I doubt the prince was sent on super duper dangerous missions that would require him to barely pull through). If I'm not mistaken, after the first Vegeta v Goku fight Freeza's henchmen comments on how rare it is for Vegeta to return in such a condition, whereas at this point we're pretty used to seeing Goku end a battle in the condition he's in (IE teetering on the edge of death).
    Finally, it's Kai-Oh-Ken not Kay-Oh-Ken. It's King Kai's name, Kaio-Sama.

    • @es_three232
      @es_three232 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      CFA yes

    • @kestrel8838
      @kestrel8838 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      CFA
      kek

    • @domreach2845
      @domreach2845 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kk

    • @qweraws6829
      @qweraws6829 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi can you tell me a good dragonball episode? I really want to see !

    • @mr.h_a1787
      @mr.h_a1787 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should be the writer of this show

  • @VagusDoc
    @VagusDoc 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the non acknowledgement of the events of Dragonball GT by anyone.

  • @joseanzhao4235
    @joseanzhao4235 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    goku wasn't the first to transform into a super saiyan -.-

    • @purpleey
      @purpleey 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Josean Zhao he said in a thousand years

    • @purpleey
      @purpleey 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dead Lock Primus we dont know but it wasnt goku

    • @dandandandoo
      @dandandandoo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His father was.Its Bardock

    • @joseanzhao4235
      @joseanzhao4235 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The first person to transform into a super saiyan was Bardock, Goku's old man

    • @SuperGokuSayain
      @SuperGokuSayain 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But it wasn't

  • @brandonmathis6577
    @brandonmathis6577 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    11:10 that was just in the dub

  • @serg3467
    @serg3467 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    According to Akiryama, “Goku could’ve beat Majin Buu, but the wanted to see if the kids could handle themselves.”

  • @maxwellmurrow4399
    @maxwellmurrow4399 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    bardock went super saiyan first

    • @aysh1321
      @aysh1321 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That wasn't cannon. it was a special for bardock tards..

    • @zephyr1866
      @zephyr1866 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      check dat xenoverse 2 legit history

    • @carloscubias3311
      @carloscubias3311 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maxwell Murrow actually he didnt it was broly

    • @legendaryuser8187
      @legendaryuser8187 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      since they are both non canon bardock went ssj first because he traveled back in time and he is in the earliest "age".

    • @bobbythestk21
      @bobbythestk21 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Vainster no because broly is non cannon

  • @eissahfarooq4859
    @eissahfarooq4859 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If Broly was alive don't u think he would be stronger. Imagine Broly's legendary super saiyan blue.

  • @lyricthemusicman
    @lyricthemusicman 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goku: Knock knock!
    Vegeta: who's there!!???!!
    Goku: Goke!
    Vegeta: Goke-who?!!!??!
    Goku: Ha! You called me Goku!

  • @camofthechinoike.8576
    @camofthechinoike.8576 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Why did it take you so damn long to make this.

    • @Treesicle
      @Treesicle  8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Good question! I honestly don't have a good answer. It's here now though so yay!

    • @camofthechinoike.8576
      @camofthechinoike.8576 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Treesicle Well at least it's finally here.Better keep making interesting stuff.

    • @kofi1813
      @kofi1813 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Treesicle why did you forget dragonball super

    • @JoseGarcia-rg3dx
      @JoseGarcia-rg3dx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      because it's relevant now

    • @N8TEonGoe
      @N8TEonGoe 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      goku is not the first to turn super sayin first,bardock is when he was faced chilled

  • @hughmcdonald9045
    @hughmcdonald9045 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    DO SLENDERMAN THE STORY YOU NEVER KNEW

    • @hughmcdonald9045
      @hughmcdonald9045 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DO SLENDERMAN THE STORY YOU NEVER KNEW.

  • @qtmomo
    @qtmomo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    his burst of anger unlocks SSJ1 which is mastered when you are calm while transformed. Same general idea with SSG.

  • @BigCowProductions
    @BigCowProductions 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I found freeza absolutely abhorrent. It was so damn annoying.

    • @spartanhawk7637
      @spartanhawk7637 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you want to complain, spell the name right

    • @BigCowProductions
      @BigCowProductions 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll complain if I damn well please. I don't remember the spelling, because I don't like Fruuza. Kindly go fuck yourself.

    • @biliddic
      @biliddic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He spelt it right the first time, its Freeza but in Funimation English Dub its spelled Frieza

    • @HamsterCrusher13
      @HamsterCrusher13 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kylo Wren the official translation is freeza, however funimation thought adding an "I" made sense for some god awful reason. It's spelled freeza in the manga is my point, and therefore is the canon spelling.

    • @spartanhawk7637
      @spartanhawk7637 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      it doesn't help that you misspelled "canon"

  • @daletrigg1485
    @daletrigg1485 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am wondering how it is the story I never knew

  • @meowsneck2607
    @meowsneck2607 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    when you realize if you look closer at the end of Z you realize goku and vegeta arent a step away there fighting over the footstep

  • @AlreadiWon
    @AlreadiWon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Goku's power level was 8.4 BILLION by the end of DBZ??! Really? Seriously 😑

    • @loganskelley9920
      @loganskelley9920 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tyrone Johnson and gohan was 200 billion

    • @loganskelley9920
      @loganskelley9920 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tyrone Johnson but goku was dead after the cell saga so...

    • @tushargupta4262
      @tushargupta4262 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Son Gohan Really

  • @scrimbip4949
    @scrimbip4949 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I know this is a "Dbz" video but come on at least add a little bit of dragon ball super.

    • @Wimpyfox
      @Wimpyfox 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Taylor Fiocca It's called a "DBZ" video. Not a Super video. What did you expect

    • @colekennedy8041
      @colekennedy8041 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wimpyfox it takes from dragon ball to Kai to z. Super is a continuation and is cannon. So to stop at super with a lot of fail se information. Especially for people who now are getting into the dragon ball universe so yea

    • @chuongnguyen9322
      @chuongnguyen9322 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      the fuck?

    • @aysh1321
      @aysh1321 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shut the fuck up. It's a "DBZ" video, yet he talks about dragon ball. So why can't he talk about super?

    • @scrimbip4949
      @scrimbip4949 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      man i did not expect this much hate ;-; eh thats the internet for ya so my opinion is bull shit

  • @DrowSpiderking
    @DrowSpiderking 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    U had me at the mom joke. Subscribed instantly. :D

  • @lisettegoldia7677
    @lisettegoldia7677 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    you say goku is stronger than all saiyan before him? check out time breaker bardock

    • @mun_7857
      @mun_7857 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Not cannon

    • @beestmode88beast
      @beestmode88beast 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hamish Wickins japan doesn't give a fuck and that's who matters not you.

    • @mun_7857
      @mun_7857 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol what, I'm just saying that it's not cannon and therefore doesn't count. With the exception of GT

    • @theextendedmario3697
      @theextendedmario3697 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pro MF Era Yeah. And japan said its not canon.

    • @anthos8182
      @anthos8182 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      First of all not canon 2 ultra instinct

  • @pepsi_man27
    @pepsi_man27 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Vegeta is better

  • @nolovenohate
    @nolovenohate 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey mate; are you forgetting Vegeta's last words at the end of DBZ? VEGETA HIMSELF says "I tried fighting for my loved ones but STILL I couldn't surpass you"
    Vegeta then goes on to say that it isn't selflessness that makes Goku amazing. It's his pure love for battle.

  • @lileli347able
    @lileli347able 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it's not 300 it takes way more to destroy a plaet

    • @xdzeezee8252
      @xdzeezee8252 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      lileli347able it takes a bigger brain to type.

    • @yoshi7193
      @yoshi7193 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xdzeezee8252 ...grammar nazi...

  • @env0x
    @env0x 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't buy it. It takes a power lvl of 300 to destroy a planet? Farmer with a shotgun had a power lvl of 5. That means it would take only 60 farmers with a shotgun to destroy a planet

    • @Stan2171
      @Stan2171 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brandon Evans thats not how power levels work

    • @env0x
      @env0x 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahahahaha

    • @skreetdiscreet2003
      @skreetdiscreet2003 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      God of goats actually he's right...I call it bullshit

    • @razorswisher
      @razorswisher 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Grant made an error, it's usually believed that to destroy a planet one needs a power level of 3,000.

    • @blahblah3726
      @blahblah3726 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@razorswisher Also, planets can vary in size significantly. There are planets that are the millionth of a size than earth.

  • @christionpulliam9870
    @christionpulliam9870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it comes from his power to wanna protect

  • @mafk-5166
    @mafk-5166 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    you think goku was first super sayian afte the legendary one hey bro did u forget bardock transform ssj when goku was a little kid

    • @mudkipz873
      @mudkipz873 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Bardock special isn't canon xd

    • @mafk-5166
      @mafk-5166 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      mudkipz873 how do u thin in history bardock is first super sayian

    • @mudkipz873
      @mudkipz873 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If it's not in the manga, its filler, unless stated by Toriyama. Bardock was never a Super Saiyan in the actual story.

    • @mafk-5166
      @mafk-5166 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      yep but i easn't talking about a manga i dont caree abput it but he transfrom before goku trensform bitch

    • @gwizthakidd9338
      @gwizthakidd9338 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mensur Bajrami no he didn't 🤦🏾‍♂️