King Kai also claimed “most of the 5 minutes were up”. Either time physics work differently when talking, or King Kai couldn’t tell how much time was passing on Namek.
Yeah Frieza did say 5 minuets and it took 10 episodes for Nammik to explode But... in Dragon Ball Z Kai a streamlined version of DBZ made in 2011 and it Redubed all the somewhat mid english dub originaly from the late 90s also DBZ Kai removed 75 to 80% of the filler so it's 2 and a half episodes instead of the original 10
The correct answer is "talking is a free action." In the Tournament of Power, there is a ton of talking. Only 2 minutes pass each episode, or at least in later episodes. So yeah. It is pure BS.
@@justinalicea1590 This is something I learned playing Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid, in both cases time is a construct for the storyline, but not the time you experience playing the game. Otherwise it would be insane.
The events of MGS occur over the lapse of one night. But if you were to listen to every conversation, watch every cutscene and play every segment accordingly, the hours dont match. Its a Japanese thing apparently
Thx for sharing bro, rly good observation. The whole talking doesn't fit any theory, and the 5 minutes can therefore not be considered potentially true or realistic as it was shown in the anime. Period
I always assumed the “5 minutes” was three separate things 1) Freiza under estimating (like you said) 2) A discrepancy between his perception of a minute, and namek’s perception of a minute 3) Everything slowed down for the audience
@@IFuckingLoveFrenchToast I mean, at the speed their brains are used to working during the fight, a conversation in normal speed would feel like literal hours. Can you imagine throwing 8 punches, then wanting to say something but a single sound of your mouth takes more time to come out than the exchange you had half a second ago?
@CJ Dragon Ball Z original run was 300 episodes with massive amounts of fillers. The longest battle was 14 episodes, literal hours of 1 on 1 combat. The anime was coming out faster than the story so the animators made everything take forever.
this theory is really funny to think about because it means Goku is such a chad that in 40+ minutes he never once tries to call Frieza's bluff or question why the planet hasn't blown up. he literally doesn't care
@@9one984 no, he just doesn’t understand the concept of time. It could have been any amount of time and he still wouldn’t know it was longer or shorter than 5 minutes.
@@9one984 Goku is alot smarter then you think. Just not book smart, also dbz Abridged dumbs goku down ALOT which gives a wrong interpertation of actual goku. You dont see alot of gokus actual inteligence in dragonball Z either. But in original Dragonball and Dragonball Super you see how smart goku really is Perhaps not within books but he learns fighting techniques and skills faster then any other being in the universe Find ways to overcome adversities in very smart and inteligent ways rather then relying on brute strenght. And I dont mean just moves and techniques I mean everything that has to do with fighting. Also Tactics and other forms of combat skills
This is actually the best explanation I think I have ever heard about the nature of "five minutes". Freeza is all about wanting to inspire fear and doubt in his opponents, and making "five minutes" out to be merely a boast to cover up his error in attempting to blow the planet up works wonderfully. Brilliant video.
Not at all, since Frieza is completely unable to beat even a hardcore distracted Goku at this point, coz of the official stated power difference, you can look after it, in just 5 minutes, and after around 5 minutes Goku would recognize that it was a false statement. This "ecplanation" is jut poor headcannon, which hardly fits the lore and definitely false in terms of logic...
Well it’s a good explanation of a theory but DBS completely disproved the idea of its longer than the stated time. For example the tournament of power, is 45 minutes long, and yet the anime episodes equal at least 12 hours. No way you will argue it took 12 hours.
"By setting a 5 minute timer Freeza forces Goku to move quickly and make a mistake" *Goku continues to talk for an extended amount of time* I think it's less of "Freeza is a strategic genius" and more of "Goku doesn't have a sense of time"
Don't forget: in the frieza saga when goku is in the healing machine vegeta says it will take 1 hour to fully recover , Vegeta then sleeps for 45 minutes then at least 30 episodes later goku finally gets out the machine
Well, there would be one major problem with the "strong gravity" idea: Bulma. If Namek had such intense gravity, how was Bulma able to stand and walk around the planet just fine? Goku had trouble with 10x gravity on King Kai's planet. Just a ramble.
No one said high gravity, just a high planet density to overcome the three suns’ pull, resulting in an earth-like gravity, if namek only had one sun THEN it would have larger gravity. This all makes too much sense actually and matpat didn’t even use filler for this idea
To be fair, Freeza's first act is to go "Look, I'm stupidly powerful and famous for it. You wont win. Just give me what I want and we can go our separate ways." The idea that someone *doesn't* know who he is just didn't occur to him at first, so once he does realise, he goes about making a statement for this new world he didn't know about. Note that he gave enough time for Gohan to escape, that I feel was entirely on purpose. You only need one person to deliver a message after all. In the end, gunboat diplomacy is still diplomacy.
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Frieza didn't know how much time it would take for the planet to explode, he just threw out some random number of minutes to put the pressure on Goku. If he really wanted to, there would've been nothing stopping him from blowing up the planet for real then and there with a second energy blast (or retreat into outer space), but he chose not to because his ego wouldn't allow it. When he made the 5-minute bluff, he still had his 100% power form to resort to to put up a better fight against Goku. He was probably banking on beating Goku with his full power form and then getting out before the planet would explode, instead of getting caught in the blast in mid-battle.
It's probably already been mentioned but the Tournament of Power was meant to be about 48 minutes, but it spanned a few dozen episodes in DB Super as well. Basically, how time is said to elapse in the series is obviously not equivalent to how fast or slow time would pass for us in real life.
That one DM I knew that insisted that talking, even whispering, completely breaks any stealth roll and you must roll again after talking. Man was that an unpleasant event.
Actually, the tournament of power can have multiple episodes being played simultaneously and it does roughly line up with the 48 minute time frame given. Any discrepancies can usually be explained by the fact that, by the time the tournament of power starts, Goku is able to move at quintillions of times the speed of light without even needing to transform at all. So what we see is, as that Seththeprogrammer clip said, slowed down for viewing. It’s even incorporated into the show with the god pad that Zeno uses during the tournament that allows him to watch it like a video and slow down or speed up the playback and rewind/ fast forward it. After all, the whole thing was ultimately set up just to entertain Zeno.
I think a lot of the fights shown were all happening at roughly the same time. I watched a youtube edit of the tournament of power with all the fights happening in real time and it was roughly just about 48 minutes in length.
Wasn't it dirty when cell was clashing with gohan he vegeta shots a ki blast in cells back as he's clashing thats no honor and i thought warriors had honor
So, Frieza saying it takes 5 minutes is just him causing enough mental stress to Goku to force him to try to mess up? That's a really good strategy actually! You essentially regain momentum from your mistake by explaining the enemy has almost no time before losing to you anyway.
Nah it was only 5 minutes. Five Human minutes. These guys are moving at faster than light speeds so what they can do within five minutes is just so much more
@@crazeay3800 But don't forget the 35 minutes of talking no character in the series has been shown to speak anywhere near fast enough to fit all the fighting even at light speeds with all that talking, so while they may be fighting a light speeds that doesn't change that it took longer then 5 minutes for the planet to explode.
I think its hilarious how in that 5 minutes, Goku still let Frieza power up to near 100%, gave him energy out of pity and still needed to find Frieza's ship
Or thinking. Jesus, anime characters think entire scientific papers as 5 minutes pass around them. There are exceptions like Legoshi from Beastarts though.
This is probably the most logical and well rationalized concept for this heavily berated scene from DBZ. Everyone makes fun of how long that fight got dragged out for. Deep diving into Frieza's character and fighting history even goes an incredibly long way toward proving this idea. I really can't find any faults with it and so this is now my reasoning as well for explaining the incontinuity of what was said in the anime. Other previous reasons I used was that everything was happening faster than the show was portraying (as mentioned in the episode) or that different beings and races had different measurements for time. But even those were just a stretch to put logic to something that just didn't make sense. So thank you for this very well laid out analysis that truly does explain everything in a nice neat package. Awesome job MatPat
exactly but what the heck lol? i thought everyone got this. they were obviously moving at light speeds or faster than light speeds at most. how did people think this was a mistake
Also don't forget that toriyama was heavily influenced and inspired by ancient Chinese history and buddhism, so this theory is actually quite reasonable.
Where I don't agree with Matpat, is that Goku tells Freeza (while he's powering up to 100%) that he (Freeza) must really want to try out that ultimate form of his against the Super Saiyan, otherwise he would have just thrown another death ball into the crater he'd made into Namek. Freeza smirks at that and keep powering up. The frost demon indeed miscalculated when he threw the first death ball, but that could have been rectified immediately; instead, he decides to take on Son Goku in his "big muscles" form, that he and Frost try on again during the Tournament of Power.
I like the DBZA explanation. Frieza doesn't know what a minute is. Why would he? He's an alien that can destroy anyone he's ever met if he wants so what he says sorta goes. It is a mad king situation, no one challenges him so he thinks he knows everything.
If Frieza doesn’t know what a minute is, then how would he even know to say 5 minutes 🤡 why wouldn't he just say something like "the planet will explode soon" the fact the he specifically chose to say five minutes means he obviously knows what it is
I always liked to think Frieza intentionally decided not to blow up namek instantaneously due to acceptepting Goku's challenge but wanted it inevitably destroyed Incase he failed
Frieza: My plan is to beat them physically without getting physical, then mock them into submission and expose to them how amazing I am by not just destroying their bodies but also their spirits all while giving them a sense of hope they still have a chance oh hahahaha and then I shall change forms making myself much stronger just to patronize them oh yes and then they shall know true fear of death, oh how marvelous! Goku: AAAAAAAAAAAAH
Goku: Herpa derp im a moron with so much plot armor not even Broly could lift it hahahahaha ooops i died again time to use wish number 57 guys dont worrrrryyyyyyy
Also, I’m just saying, he said the saiyan saga was several sagas ago. That just got me like🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@EllipsisMark those arent really the main super important sagas if you ask someone who doesnt know the show that well i bet the would know saiyan saga frieza saga cell saga and majjin buu saga
Dude, the Art of War teaches 'how to eliminate your opponent by exploiting his overconfidence making him lose a battle he thought he had the victory for, by applying confusion by provocation, therefore directing him into his own irreversible demise.
You'd have thought frieza had come across the issue of blowing up a dense planet before and knew to overcompensate. He must have destroyed a lot by the time we get to this saga.
I will say that Goku using Frieza's inability to sense ki against him is one of my favorite moments. When he blows up a dust cloud to make Frieza dodge up into his attack it's pretty smart.
goku's actually really smart, its just he's more fighting smart rather than book smart like bulma. He's a master martial artist who can adapt on the fly and trick his opponents, such as when he tricked cell into believing he was going to fire down, only to use instant transmission and blow up cell from underneath where his guard would be at its lowest.
Fun fact, Freiza’s race are powerful to the point where the forms they use are actually to nerf themselves so that they don’t accidentally destroy planets and what not
I should point out that Frieza's 5 minutes line does occur in the original manga in Chapter 126: The End of Namek?, so it is manga accurate information (unlike OVER 9000 which is actually OVER 8000 in the original manga & Japanese dub)! Also, Frieza was aware of the Super Saiyan God legend in addition to Super Saiyan, according to Goku's Dragon Ball Minus retconned origins which were later adapted into DBS: Broly!
A Dragonball Z theory? YES PLEASE. And this is actually a really interesting interpretation of why Frieza says 5 minutes. He truly is a very good fighter/tactician and would plant seeds of doubt after having a plan possibly uncovered. And despite all the flack the Frieza v Goku fight gets, it really is one of the best dragonball fights for both the moves and techniques used as well as how long it lasts for. It feels like a war and it's mostly just 2 guys fighting.
I thought this was going to be a video about relativity and how Frieza, a being who regularly travels between planets at what must be incredible speeds, would experience time in a significantly different way and thus have a problem estimating durations since he doesn't tend to stay in one place very long.
@@p.slgeswari4972 I would have liked to see scholarly Ultimate Gohan vs Golden Frieza. For the short time they worked together in the tournament of power they worked well together and got rid of Dyspo. So I feel they could have real mind-game filled fight.
@@p.slgeswari4972 Gohan is the closest. The problem is after the destruction of Planet Vegeta, all of the scholarly saiyans who would have been left home died. All we had were the saiyans already sent to other planets (Goku, Brody, etc.) and Vegeta's crew. Vegeta himself is pretty smart, and Goku has extremely good battle sense. But in the terms of thinking on Frieza's level, Gohan is the only saiyan who may be able to.
This makes me wonder how fast words can be spoken without running over each other and become indistinguishable, with all the super abilities that they have how fast could Frieza and Goku be speaking to each other
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It’s just because the original Z anime had super slow pacing, having to animate a 20 minute episode for each 12 page chapter. If you read the manga it’s much more believable.
In the games it's suggested by a few characters, specifically by cooler (yes I know both of those things, arent, cannon) that Frieza was subconsciously scared that he would die in the explosion, which makes a lot of sense, he was facing his greatest fear, the reason he truly eradicated an entire race that served him very well, the only power he had ever feared from another mortal
He was scared and he did hold back with Namek. We saw him instantly destroy Planet Vegeta and Planet Earth with an attack. When the planet doesn’t blow, he claims he _pulled the reigns a bit too hard on that one._ Reigns, as in what we use to control animals. As in, he pulled back on the power too much.
@@captainbadassitude1845 Yep. And when you consider that he effortlessly blew up Planet Vegeta in his first form, the fact that he couldn't make Namek explode in his final form (even with it's density) must mean he held back a MAJOR amount of power. Something he absolutely wouldn't do unless he wasn't in the right frame of mind.
@@DLxxx remember, planet vegeta has 10x the gravity of earth and frieza managed to blow it up with a finger in his first form from outside its atmosphere, and his first form roughly 240x weaker than his final form. And gohan and krillin never mention namek having a harsher gravity than earths. If first form frieza could blow up planet vegeta with a finger from outerspace, final form frieza could've easily blown up namek without sacrificing any power if he really wanted to. So he was literally so shaken by goku going super saiyan that he could barely use a finger of his power.
Simpler theory: he was using namekian minutes, due to the planet having 3 suns Edit: ok for anyone trying to help this theory along or correct it, remember I speak exclusively in funnies
These kids dont know how good they have it being able to binge on whatever show they like..it took the whole school year and then some to make it through this fight
Akira Toriyama is the king of shortcuts. Not only did he not like drawing night scenes, but he also invented Super Saiyan in order to save time on filling in the hair
also a potential reason tails went away permanently is cause they were hard to draw. give the dude credit, managed 100s of chapters on deadlines with stuff like this
@@MegamanStarforce2010 Actually, I think after a while he just forgot that saiyans have tails. Remember that this guy forgets most of his own characters, hence why characters like Launch are never seen again.
I mean he did draw some other complex things in future like drawing cell( must've been the biggest nightmare) and super saiyan 3 which is a hair increase
@@troystation2526 youre right! matpat doesnt at all pride himself as someone who does countless hours of research in order to formulate his videos, its so irrelevant
Ummm do you not remember when Frieza’s dumbass almost got himself killed by Toppo’s hakai? Or when he threw the energy ball at Toppo only for Toppo to body him into unconsciousness? What about when Frieza sneak attacked Jiren while all Goku and Vegeta were hurt? Then he charges Jiren with Gold form and gets yeeted away like a fly? Frieza didn’t get any smarter in the ToP
I actually really like your ideas here. The only wrench I'd throw at it, is if it's correct, I think Goku would have had said something to Frieza along the lines of "boy this sure is a long 5 minutes". Cause he did poke at him a bit in that fight.
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Frieza underestimated Goku by overestimating Goku's intelligence
*Frieza:* "This planet will explode in 5 minutes"
*Goku:* "What's a minute?"
True lol
@@Am_Cookie2436 Is that a food?
@@onswiftwingsofficial what? No
Is that a new exercise?
What's a 5
King Kai also claimed “most of the 5 minutes were up”. Either time physics work differently when talking, or King Kai couldn’t tell how much time was passing on Namek.
Yeah Frieza did say 5 minuets and it took 10 episodes for Nammik to explode
But... in Dragon Ball Z Kai a streamlined version of DBZ made in 2011 and it Redubed all the somewhat mid english dub originaly from the late 90s also DBZ Kai removed 75 to 80% of the filler so it's 2 and a half episodes instead of the original 10
The correct answer is "talking is a free action." In the Tournament of Power, there is a ton of talking. Only 2 minutes pass each episode, or at least in later episodes. So yeah. It is pure BS.
@@justinalicea1590 This is something I learned playing Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid, in both cases time is a construct for the storyline, but not the time you experience playing the game. Otherwise it would be insane.
The events of MGS occur over the lapse of one night. But if you were to listen to every conversation, watch every cutscene and play every segment accordingly, the hours dont match. Its a Japanese thing apparently
Thx for sharing bro, rly good observation. The whole talking doesn't fit any theory, and the 5 minutes can therefore not be considered potentially true or realistic as it was shown in the anime. Period
“Frieze lied” does sounds like the most plausible theory to me
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Idk why i never thought about it like that, it is in character for him to be deceptive.
It’d make sense. Frieza is pretty smart for DBZ standards, so lying to give Goku a sense of panic so he’ll mess up makes sense.
Everything is possible when goku can shake nothingness by being a thing
@@asianpengi680 what does are you trying to say? "For dbz standards"
I always assumed the “5 minutes” was three separate things
1) Freiza under estimating (like you said)
2) A discrepancy between his perception of a minute, and namek’s perception of a minute
3) Everything slowed down for the audience
That last one would imply they had a whole conversation sped up
@@IFuckingLoveFrenchToast I mean, at the speed their brains are used to working during the fight, a conversation in normal speed would feel like literal hours. Can you imagine throwing 8 punches, then wanting to say something but a single sound of your mouth takes more time to come out than the exchange you had half a second ago?
the second one actually makes a alot of sense. never even thought about how being on a different planets timezones.
Its number 3.
@@chaos110-c8fprobably the second is the most logical
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Frieza: you see I was actually using an advanced technique there called LYING
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In the manga I read that the reason why it didn't instantly explode because Frieza was scared that the blast might hurt him too so he held back a bit.
that is right because he is way to scared so he held back a lot
@Devil Mario Productions He only started losing power at the end of the fight due to crappy stamina at 100%.
@@sippeon9047 that was also a reason
yup cooler mentioned it in his movie that that is most likely why and then frieza confirmed in rof that he was afraid of getting caught in the blast
@@damienmitchell3104Which is weird because he literally survived the explosion after being sliced and blown to bits by Goku
“How many sayains does it take to screw in a light bulb” nostalgia hits hard, I will never forget that joke
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“Just one but its entire race dies, then he could die too”
@CJ I believe this a reference to Team Four Star's DBZ Abridged series. Frieza makes the light bulb joke a couple times.
@CJ Dragon Ball Z original run was 300 episodes with massive amounts of fillers. The longest battle was 14 episodes, literal hours of 1 on 1 combat. The anime was coming out faster than the story so the animators made everything take forever.
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this theory is really funny to think about because it means Goku is such a chad that in 40+ minutes he never once tries to call Frieza's bluff or question why the planet hasn't blown up. he literally doesn't care
He was blind rage and fear
Which could be easily way of you to forget time
I don't think Goku understand the concept of bluff tho, he is not known for his intelligence.
@@9one984 no, he just doesn’t understand the concept of time.
It could have been any amount of time and he still wouldn’t know it was longer or shorter than 5 minutes.
@@9one984 Goku is alot smarter then you think.
Just not book smart, also dbz Abridged dumbs goku down ALOT which gives a wrong interpertation of actual goku.
You dont see alot of gokus actual inteligence in dragonball Z either.
But in original Dragonball and Dragonball Super you see how smart goku really is
Perhaps not within books but he learns fighting techniques and skills faster then any other being in the universe
Find ways to overcome adversities in very smart and inteligent ways rather then relying on brute strenght.
And I dont mean just moves and techniques I mean everything that has to do with fighting. Also Tactics and other forms of combat skills
@@Princess_Narii Right, I’m so tired of people using DBZ Abridged as gospel when it comes to discussing the actual series
Easy, then: Posturing. He wanted goku to feel rushed; to stress out, and therefore make mistakes. Pure mind games.
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That is the best way to control fight. After that it's just range and dodging until the other person is out of stamina.
Frieza out here reading 48 laws of power 🤣
Are you implying that Frieza used the old Rope-a-dope technique?
@@Tabkhasahla why?
This is actually the best explanation I think I have ever heard about the nature of "five minutes". Freeza is all about wanting to inspire fear and doubt in his opponents, and making "five minutes" out to be merely a boast to cover up his error in attempting to blow the planet up works wonderfully. Brilliant video.
Not at all, since Frieza is completely unable to beat even a hardcore distracted Goku at this point, coz of the official stated power difference, you can look after it, in just 5 minutes, and after around 5 minutes Goku would recognize that it was a false statement. This "ecplanation" is jut poor headcannon, which hardly fits the lore and definitely false in terms of logic...
Well it’s a good explanation of a theory but DBS completely disproved the idea of its longer than the stated time. For example the tournament of power, is 45 minutes long, and yet the anime episodes equal at least 12 hours. No way you will argue it took 12 hours.
"By setting a 5 minute timer Freeza forces Goku to move quickly and make a mistake"
*Goku continues to talk for an extended amount of time*
I think it's less of "Freeza is a strategic genius" and more of "Goku doesn't have a sense of time"
Nice joke! You are THE BEST, Salman :)
Sounds like Dio
I mean both are probably true
"Run from the blonde spiky haired dude"
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Ight I’m a blonde imma get a Mohawk so every who read the book, and watched this video and everyone will fear me
Hi eli
Sephiroth. And Dbz villains didn't get the memo.
"Avoid where your enemy is strong, and attack where they are weak."
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War, Paraphrased
Frieza Couldn’t Read.
"If you know your enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles"
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
"If fighting is sure to result in victory then you must fight!"
-Sun Tzu
“Don’t reveal all your secrets in a TH-cam video. You fool.” -Sun Tzu, The Art of War
"Sun Tzu said that."
-Soldier R.I.P.
"Let your plans be as dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, *fall like a thunderbolt* -Sun Tzu, The Art of War
-technoblade
Don't forget: in the frieza saga when goku is in the healing machine vegeta says it will take 1 hour to fully recover ,
Vegeta then sleeps for 45 minutes then at least 30 episodes later goku finally gets out the machine
Toriyama: I AM THE LORD OF TIME
Lmao it’s just “Frieza lied”. And I expected some earth shattering (no pun intended) theory about Namek having such strong gravity that time dilated.
Well, there would be one major problem with the "strong gravity" idea: Bulma. If Namek had such intense gravity, how was Bulma able to stand and walk around the planet just fine? Goku had trouble with 10x gravity on King Kai's planet. Just a ramble.
@@blue_boo3171 uuuuuuuh It's best not to think about
@@blue_boo3171 if you watched Red vs Blue, Caboose managed to survive 10x gravity.
@@pjdianalan7934 lol red vs blue
No one said high gravity, just a high planet density to overcome the three suns’ pull, resulting in an earth-like gravity, if namek only had one sun THEN it would have larger gravity. This all makes too much sense actually and matpat didn’t even use filler for this idea
"Frieza never dies"
-Space Szun Tzu, The Art of Star War
Best quote ever! You are THE BEST, R3d153 :)
Szun Tzu is probably going to like him quite much, knowing even aliens listen to his words.
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Sunzi’s Art of War literally starts with “AVOID GOING TO WAR”. Like, try diplomacy
Sun Tzu
Frieza didn't get the memo.
then Freeza diplomatically exploded a planet to avoid war, pure diplomacy. . .
Democracy and war aren't opportunities
*Facepalm
To be fair, Freeza's first act is to go "Look, I'm stupidly powerful and famous for it. You wont win. Just give me what I want and we can go our separate ways." The idea that someone *doesn't* know who he is just didn't occur to him at first, so once he does realise, he goes about making a statement for this new world he didn't know about. Note that he gave enough time for Gohan to escape, that I feel was entirely on purpose. You only need one person to deliver a message after all.
In the end, gunboat diplomacy is still diplomacy.
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Don't you mean 2024?
"yee, ha, ya ride 'em cowboy"
-Frieza
Krillin gave him several 1-up's - Team 4 star reference.
This is why context is important lol
the original dbz can be.....interesting like that.
Imagine seeing this in the nfl lmfao
thats what she said
"be like frieza"
-sun tzu, the art of war
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Its sort of poetic that in an episode about the most dragged out fight in anime history he takes 12 minutes to say *"freeza bluffed"*
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Frieza didn't know how much time it would take for the planet to explode, he just threw out some random number of minutes to put the pressure on Goku. If he really wanted to, there would've been nothing stopping him from blowing up the planet for real then and there with a second energy blast (or retreat into outer space), but he chose not to because his ego wouldn't allow it. When he made the 5-minute bluff, he still had his 100% power form to resort to to put up a better fight against Goku. He was probably banking on beating Goku with his full power form and then getting out before the planet would explode, instead of getting caught in the blast in mid-battle.
His is just what matpat said but dumbing down frieza
Simple theory: frieza didn’t want Goku to get his two stuffed crust pizzas
I get the dbz abridged reference
What pizzas
Yep. Keeping it all for himself.
I knew someone was going to reference this.
i was hoping for this comment
Why did frieza say 5 minutes instead of 35 minutes?
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What a wholesome name
Meanwhile in other timeline
Zeno sama:"haha,destroy planet go BRRRR"
It's probably already been mentioned but the Tournament of Power was meant to be about 48 minutes, but it spanned a few dozen episodes in DB Super as well. Basically, how time is said to elapse in the series is obviously not equivalent to how fast or slow time would pass for us in real life.
There is an explanation for that one. Look up the 48 minutes of tournament of power and it is very close to the actual 48
I mean there were multiple fights happening at once so you
Could say most of those episodes were happening at the same time as other episodes
“Sun Tzu, The Art of War”
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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I had to read that like four times to understand what I was looking at.
Simpler theory: the trope Talking is a Free Action.
Someone plays DnD i see...
That one DM I knew that insisted that talking, even whispering, completely breaks any stealth roll and you must roll again after talking.
Man was that an unpleasant event.
@@No-uc6fg you were the spitting image of jake farting while hiding from skeletons, weren't you?
Yo wonder why villains don't use that to their advantage Dio would have won had he stopped time and just monologued while be threw his knives
Even simpler: Five minutes was an estimate, not a guarantee.
Don't forget that the tournament of power was 48 minutes and lasted 34 episodes.
Bro that's 14 hours
Tbf, it covered multiple fights happening at the same time. So maybe 48 mins is roughly right. Also, I think it covered some backstories
@@herrdoktornapy6835 its exactly right the gods exactly sevt the time up its all just happening at the speed of light
Actually, the tournament of power can have multiple episodes being played simultaneously and it does roughly line up with the 48 minute time frame given. Any discrepancies can usually be explained by the fact that, by the time the tournament of power starts, Goku is able to move at quintillions of times the speed of light without even needing to transform at all. So what we see is, as that Seththeprogrammer clip said, slowed down for viewing. It’s even incorporated into the show with the god pad that Zeno uses during the tournament that allows him to watch it like a video and slow down or speed up the playback and rewind/ fast forward it. After all, the whole thing was ultimately set up just to entertain Zeno.
I think a lot of the fights shown were all happening at roughly the same time. I watched a youtube edit of the tournament of power with all the fights happening in real time and it was roughly just about 48 minutes in length.
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“Where Goku fights fair, Frieza fights-“
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“-Dirty.”
Stuffed crust, King Kai! You can eat it in reverse!
@@aubreyanderson3198 tfs is great
At least Goku finally got his pizza.
I got an ad for the democratic party’s donation drive, lmfao.
Wasn't it dirty when cell was clashing with gohan he vegeta shots a ki blast in cells back as he's clashing thats no honor and i thought warriors had honor
So, Frieza saying it takes 5 minutes is just him causing enough mental stress to Goku to force him to try to mess up? That's a really good strategy actually! You essentially regain momentum from your mistake by explaining the enemy has almost no time before losing to you anyway.
Nah it was only 5 minutes. Five Human minutes. These guys are moving at faster than light speeds so what they can do within five minutes is just so much more
@@crazeay3800 But don't forget the 35 minutes of talking no character in the series has been shown to speak anywhere near fast enough to fit all the fighting even at light speeds with all that talking, so while they may be fighting a light speeds that doesn't change that it took longer then 5 minutes for the planet to explode.
@@krool5383 they are talking like Eminem raps but it's slowed down
@@crazeay3800 that makes no sense
@@krool5383 no they talk that fast to each other in combat
I think its hilarious how in that 5 minutes, Goku still let Frieza power up to near 100%, gave him energy out of pity and still needed to find Frieza's ship
Just Like In JoJo, Talking Is a Free Action
Dio : True Story
Diavolo: Agreed
Or thinking. Jesus, anime characters think entire scientific papers as 5 minutes pass around them.
There are exceptions like Legoshi from Beastarts though.
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This actually made me gain more of an appreciation for Frieza as a villain.
This is probably the most logical and well rationalized concept for this heavily berated scene from DBZ. Everyone makes fun of how long that fight got dragged out for. Deep diving into Frieza's character and fighting history even goes an incredibly long way toward proving this idea. I really can't find any faults with it and so this is now my reasoning as well for explaining the incontinuity of what was said in the anime. Other previous reasons I used was that everything was happening faster than the show was portraying (as mentioned in the episode) or that different beings and races had different measurements for time. But even those were just a stretch to put logic to something that just didn't make sense. So thank you for this very well laid out analysis that truly does explain everything in a nice neat package. Awesome job MatPat
Nah man, the anime just caught up to the manga, so Toei had to draw out the arc. And that's a fact.
I thought everyone should get used to anime time already since JOJO has been a big thing for a while.
exactly but what the heck lol? i thought everyone got this. they were obviously moving at light speeds or faster than light speeds at most. how did people think this was a mistake
Also don't forget that toriyama was heavily influenced and inspired by ancient Chinese history and buddhism, so this theory is actually quite reasonable.
Where I don't agree with Matpat, is that Goku tells Freeza (while he's powering up to 100%) that he (Freeza) must really want to try out that ultimate form of his against the Super Saiyan, otherwise he would have just thrown another death ball into the crater he'd made into Namek.
Freeza smirks at that and keep powering up.
The frost demon indeed miscalculated when he threw the first death ball, but that could have been rectified immediately; instead, he decides to take on Son Goku in his "big muscles" form, that he and Frost try on again during the Tournament of Power.
I like the DBZA explanation. Frieza doesn't know what a minute is.
Why would he? He's an alien that can destroy anyone he's ever met if he wants so what he says sorta goes. It is a mad king situation, no one challenges him so he thinks he knows everything.
If Frieza doesn’t know what a minute is, then how would he even know to say 5 minutes 🤡 why wouldn't he just say something like "the planet will explode soon" the fact the he specifically chose to say five minutes means he obviously knows what it is
@@dariusdafiggaHe probably does know he is just from space meaning 5 minutes from where he was from could be more than that of 5 earth minutes
@@K1REON most logical explanation
Me: starts liking Frieza
Frieza: Mission Passed + Respect
Nice one! You are BRILLIANT, breathing is fun :)
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“Lies are good”
-Sun Tzu,the art of war
“Potatoes”
-technoblade, pig of war
"Guns"
-Founding father's of America
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration."
~Brock Samson
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"No flesh shall be spared"
-The Bible, Mark 13:20
But we all know the best Sun zu quote:
“Whatever you do, don’t reveal all of your strategies in a TH-cam video, you fool, you mororn.”
Luckily frieza didn't do that
But the again I don't think those scouters have internet
@@milesandrews6711 very true
@@alex6351 or do they
@Ba Paoi Really nice to put a video here, really nice man -slowly claps- well done making yourself that petty for views
i bet only a few people actually understand this but like it anyway
I always liked to think Frieza intentionally decided not to blow up namek instantaneously due to acceptepting Goku's challenge but wanted it inevitably destroyed Incase he failed
Frieza: My plan is to beat them physically without getting physical, then mock them into submission and expose to them how amazing I am by not just destroying their bodies but also their spirits all while giving them a sense of hope they still have a chance oh hahahaha and then I shall change forms making myself much stronger just to patronize them oh yes and then they shall know true fear of death, oh how marvelous!
Goku: AAAAAAAAAAAAH
Goku: Herpa derp im a moron with so much plot armor not even Broly could lift it hahahahaha ooops i died again time to use wish number 57 guys dont worrrrryyyyyyy
@@masterreaper115 this is so true
Goku would not even know what the heck he's talking about lmao
This man really just said "Frieza lied about the 5 minutes" in cursive
P.S. It's still a great theory
Also, I’m just saying, he said the saiyan saga was several sagas ago.
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To be fair, that was always my take on the subject.
@@chasemchenry9607 Afterlife saga, Ginyu saga, and other stuff. DBZ is really variety.
@@chasemchenry9607 yeah me too
@@EllipsisMark those arent really the main super important sagas if you ask someone who doesnt know the show that well i bet the would know saiyan saga frieza saga cell saga and majjin buu saga
I like this theory a lot better. Makes freiza seem smarter and it makes sense.
"I have the high ground"
- Sun Tzu, The Art of War
"Hello there."
@@atoth62 "General Kenobi"
Dude, the Art of War teaches 'how to eliminate your opponent by exploiting his overconfidence making him lose a battle he thought he had the victory for, by applying confusion by provocation, therefore directing him into his own irreversible demise.
Well I have the low ground so I can strike you in the lower areas!
Checkmate.
"Ayo, Frieza is actually a pretty smart dude ngl"
-Sun Tzu: 'The Art of War'
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You'd have thought frieza had come across the issue of blowing up a dense planet before and knew to overcompensate. He must have destroyed a lot by the time we get to this saga.
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I will say that Goku using Frieza's inability to sense ki against him is one of my favorite moments. When he blows up a dust cloud to make Frieza dodge up into his attack it's pretty smart.
goku's actually really smart, its just he's more fighting smart rather than book smart like bulma.
He's a master martial artist who can adapt on the fly and trick his opponents, such as when he tricked cell into believing he was going to fire down, only to use instant transmission and blow up cell from underneath where his guard would be at its lowest.
Frieza: says five minutes
Frieza: I’ll ignore that
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Fun fact, Freiza’s race are powerful to the point where the forms they use are actually to nerf themselves so that they don’t accidentally destroy planets and what not
Team Four Star's "theory" is that Freeza doesn't know what a minute is.
its not a theory its truth
Hey who took the last hetap
It's as simple as that cuz time is not the same everywhere, and how wierd is it that every alien in dbz knows english
Do you have a watch?
@@sisanyathi2459 you mean japanese
"bruh he can't count minutes lmaoooo"
- Sun Tzu, Art of War
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To quote from mr Alpharad himself
"You can't mind game the mindless."
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And this sums up Goku in a shellnut
This is now my new favourite quote
Haha internet funny man go brrrrr
how many namekians take to change a light bulb? the entire race, one to change it, and the rest to die!
"Jesus I overslept, it's already night. ....for the first time since I got here...on a planet with 3 suns."
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"I can already see my memes coming strong in comments"
Sun Tzu the art of war.
Prepare for five flashbacks of him buying the lightbulb
Dude your thinking about my hero academia not dragon ball z
@@izreal4787 My Hero doesn’t even have that many flashbacks. You’re thinking about Naruto.
Wait what about flashbacks of him getting the lightbulb and what it cost him too?
@@komarunaegi7460 have you SEEN DEKU VS GENTLE CRIMINAL?? 1000000 flashbacks.
Also DB doesn't even have a lot of flashbacks
I should point out that Frieza's 5 minutes line does occur in the original manga in Chapter 126: The End of Namek?, so it is manga accurate information (unlike OVER 9000 which is actually OVER 8000 in the original manga & Japanese dub)! Also, Frieza was aware of the Super Saiyan God legend in addition to Super Saiyan, according to Goku's Dragon Ball Minus retconned origins which were later adapted into DBS: Broly!
To be fair - Goku's power passed both 8 and 9 thousand before they broke the scouters.
A Dragonball Z theory? YES PLEASE. And this is actually a really interesting interpretation of why Frieza says 5 minutes. He truly is a very good fighter/tactician and would plant seeds of doubt after having a plan possibly uncovered. And despite all the flack the Frieza v Goku fight gets, it really is one of the best dragonball fights for both the moves and techniques used as well as how long it lasts for. It feels like a war and it's mostly just 2 guys fighting.
for sure, and the first super saiyan reveal is by far the most exciting.
Btw do u think there is a saiyan who is as strategic as freiza or even smarter than him
I thought this was going to be a video about relativity and how Frieza, a being who regularly travels between planets at what must be incredible speeds, would experience time in a significantly different way and thus have a problem estimating durations since he doesn't tend to stay in one place very long.
@@p.slgeswari4972 I would have liked to see scholarly Ultimate Gohan vs Golden Frieza. For the short time they worked together in the tournament of power they worked well together and got rid of Dyspo. So I feel they could have real mind-game filled fight.
@@p.slgeswari4972 Gohan is the closest. The problem is after the destruction of Planet Vegeta, all of the scholarly saiyans who would have been left home died. All we had were the saiyans already sent to other planets (Goku, Brody, etc.) and Vegeta's crew. Vegeta himself is pretty smart, and Goku has extremely good battle sense. But in the terms of thinking on Frieza's level, Gohan is the only saiyan who may be able to.
"Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness" *potato war flashbacks*
yes
I can no longer think of Sun Tzu without also thinking of Technoblade.
Definitely.
Oh Technoblade…
I see youre a man of culture
This makes me wonder how fast words can be spoken without running over each other and become indistinguishable, with all the super abilities that they have how fast could Frieza and Goku be speaking to each other
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Probably rather fast
He literally said that no matter their power levels their speaking wouldn't be thaaat fast
@@crisaf8471 he can say whatever he wants, he isn’t necessarily correct
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“Tsun zu’s teaching”
Technoblade: You called?
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@@shahadfatima6184 crazy huh
That’s what I thought immediately
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Edit: it took me a while to do this plz like
* Agrees in araki*
*cries in yamcha being a former badass*
RIP Launch....
Are we talking about Akira Toriyama or Hirohiko Araki?
*Sad Launch Noises*
Freezer: "This planet will explode in 5 minutes!"
Goku (The better one): "Do you know what a minute is? Cause I don't think you do."
Tfs?
@@dragonmaster2453 yeah it is
It think this is from the kai version
Muffin button
U need to have the vetiran card
I missspell
Thank God that's freezer and not frieza
It’s just because the original Z anime had super slow pacing, having to animate a 20 minute episode for each 12 page chapter. If you read the manga it’s much more believable.
"Yeehaw giddyup cowboy"
How do you even know what a cowboy is?
"Space hulu"
@@shahadfatima6184 stop spamming this
@@DTermination71 yo what happened ?
Ahhh..good memories of space Australia. Go space Broncos.
Figures.
Dude his voice when he says this is terrifying
In the games it's suggested by a few characters, specifically by cooler (yes I know both of those things, arent, cannon) that Frieza was subconsciously scared that he would die in the explosion, which makes a lot of sense, he was facing his greatest fear, the reason he truly eradicated an entire race that served him very well, the only power he had ever feared from another mortal
He was scared and he did hold back with Namek.
We saw him instantly destroy Planet Vegeta and Planet Earth with an attack. When the planet doesn’t blow, he claims he _pulled the reigns a bit too hard on that one._ Reigns, as in what we use to control animals. As in, he pulled back on the power too much.
@@captainbadassitude1845 Yep. And when you consider that he effortlessly blew up Planet Vegeta in his first form, the fact that he couldn't make Namek explode in his final form (even with it's density) must mean he held back a MAJOR amount of power. Something he absolutely wouldn't do unless he wasn't in the right frame of mind.
In latex terms . Frieza was shook 😂🤣
@@DLxxx remember, planet vegeta has 10x the gravity of earth and frieza managed to blow it up with a finger in his first form from outside its atmosphere, and his first form roughly 240x weaker than his final form.
And gohan and krillin never mention namek having a harsher gravity than earths.
If first form frieza could blow up planet vegeta with a finger from outerspace, final form frieza could've easily blown up namek without sacrificing any power if he really wanted to.
So he was literally so shaken by goku going super saiyan that he could barely use a finger of his power.
I feel like this is a love letter to frieza and im not complaining.
I am unsure of if this is intentional but at the 5:00 mark in this video Frieza destroys a planet.
“Freeza and Techno are pretty sick”
-Sun Tzu the art of war
"Soldier's really cool and the best at winning fights"
-Sun Tzu
Kyle Rivera that song has been stuck in my head all week
@@kylerivera3470 RIP rick may
Simpler theory: he was using namekian minutes, due to the planet having 3 suns
Edit: ok for anyone trying to help this theory along or correct it, remember I speak exclusively in funnies
Oh... that actually makes a lot of sense. It could even be his native planet´s minutes.
Huh interesting also thought they had 2 suns but I was wrong hehehehehe
No
They simply move faster
@@human3213 but hey
Still that would only be 15 minutes because it's only 3 suns and if you do math 3 and if all of them have the same time sickle then it's 15 minutes
“All warfare is based on deception.” - Technoblade, The Potato War
You saw that from Tehnoblade didn't you 👀
@@Zei_thatoneartist a man of culture I see
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*Mw3 muisc starts playing*
These kids dont know how good they have it being able to binge on whatever show they like..it took the whole school year and then some to make it through this fight
Akira Toriyama is the king of shortcuts. Not only did he not like drawing night scenes, but he also invented Super Saiyan in order to save time on filling in the hair
Flying was a thing just so he didn't have to draw them walking everywhere anymore.
also a potential reason tails went away permanently is cause they were hard to draw. give the dude credit, managed 100s of chapters on deadlines with stuff like this
@@MegamanStarforce2010 Actually, I think after a while he just forgot that saiyans have tails.
Remember that this guy forgets most of his own characters, hence why characters like Launch are never seen again.
I mean he did draw some other complex things in future like drawing cell( must've been the biggest nightmare) and super saiyan 3 which is a hair increase
@@milesandrews6711 No wonder he takes so many shortcuts. He makes the job harder for himself all the time.
"neeeeeeeeeeeeeerd" - Sun Tzu, The Art of War, and Freeza probably
Tecno never dies
@@sagivetedgi6210 twas a piccolo reference wdym
"Be extremely subtle even to the point of formlessness"
*Potato War flashbacks ensue*
Frieza is Technoblade confirmed?!
whats with all the technoblade comments i dont understaNd
@@homebrewHousehold Technoblade quotes The Art of War, so on every video that people mention Sun Tzu the comments are flooded by Technoblade fans
@@alinastanescu4430 fair
@Vi Trinh how about you dont
Now explain the tournament of power happening in 47 minutes
"There are no accidents, everything has a calculated purpose and outcome"
-Mark Twain
oogway
@@pokochoco5931 mmmm yes, I just wanted to use a Mark Twain quote
“Men should have a room where they can smoke and curse” (paraphrased this one).
Basically he had a man cave.
I dare you to say that after stubbing your pinky toe in lego land.
now it makes sense on gokus decision on Letting gohan Fight Cell
" "Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness."-Sun Tzu, The Art of War " - Technoblade, the Potato War
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Whaaaa I found a technoblade reference here?!
LOL that was with i was thinking
The times of war
"Anyway he left the door to his afk machine open, so I lefty alt in there!"
"And here you thought my episodes were full of filler" I could not stop laughing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
But, you stopped laughing though.
@@rpshd7275 yeah
Ok
I found out why no one eats in Chum bucket, please take a look th-cam.com/video/9GVFMtz-V-k/w-d-xo.html
No one beats Toei at that
They aren’t screaming at each other, they’re super saying.
alright take my like
SS1 Goku: "It's a Shame that the Galactic Emperor is Losing, and the worse part is he is just a Monkey"
i also thought it was obvious that they were moving at light speed or faster than light
how did people think it was a mistake
Monke
"stop making memes out of my quotes"
Sun tsu, the art of war
Memes , the DNA of the soul.
"Don't quote me on this" - Sun Tzu, Art of War
I saw something that I think explains this pretty well
“The planet will blow up in 5 minutes”
“Earth minutes namekian minutes?”
“Plot minitues”
Or you could just quote when Frieza says "This old planet is sturdier than I thought." After the 5 minutes pass....
"Shes a tough old bird this one. Ill give her another 2 minutes before she blows into smithereens." Or something to that effect
Was that filler, though?
@@brettwallace7687 It probably was, but it still works with their scenario of having to wait for the manga to catch up. So they used that line
@@Sumpuru Fair enough point.
But later, he repeats that it'll explode in 5 minutes.
At least that's the case in the French translation...
“Use orphans to plant potatoes”
-Sun tzu
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Yes
TECHNOBLADE NEVER DIEEEEESSSSSSSS
LOL that was with i was thinking
I am so happy that i am not the only one XD
Three wishes. Porunga grants 3 wishes. Cuz he flexes like that. Also Piccolo didn't die there.
Somehow... Piccolo has always been an absolute truck for taking damage.
I found out why no one eats in Chum bucket, please take a look th-cam.com/video/9GVFMtz-V-k/w-d-xo.html
Irrelevant to the video
@@troystation2526 youre right! matpat doesnt at all pride himself as someone who does countless hours of research in order to formulate his videos, its so irrelevant
@@troystation2526 1:58 how ?
11:53: They fight for a very long time
Oda: write that down. WRITE THAT DOWN!
ngl, the anime kinda drags out the fights.
That's why the manga is always better!
That makes so much more sense. This way their dialogue doesn’t sound like a bunch of irritated chipmunks in real time. That idea kinda bothered me.
I also thought about this.
_“All warfare is based on deception.” - Sun Tzu, The Art of War_
Moral of the story: Kokichi is a warlord.
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the ants would like to know your location
LOL
I mean, he is the leader of a SECRET EVIL ORGANIZATION!!! So...
WATCH OUT
@@saffi_taffi He runs the world from the shadows, a click of his fingers and he ruins your life. Watch out for him
“He gets dumber as the series goes on”
Tournament of Power Frieza: *excuse you?*
Dying reset his intelligence score XD
He did big brain frost
Ummm do you not remember when Frieza’s dumbass almost got himself killed by Toppo’s hakai? Or when he threw the energy ball at Toppo only for Toppo to body him into unconsciousness?
What about when Frieza sneak attacked Jiren while all Goku and Vegeta were hurt? Then he charges Jiren with Gold form and gets yeeted away like a fly?
Frieza didn’t get any smarter in the ToP
@M Billa “fIrSt oF aLl” your argument has no standing. How about you provide back up to your claims instead of just repeating what was already said?
@M Billa thanks for proving my point: “Frieza didn’t get any smarter during the ToP”
I actually really like your ideas here. The only wrench I'd throw at it, is if it's correct, I think Goku would have had said something to Frieza along the lines of "boy this sure is a long 5 minutes". Cause he did poke at him a bit in that fight.
sun tzu: The spirit animal of a Minecraft pig.
aka tecnoblade
Freeza = technoblade confirmed
Teco