Who is US Agent? - The Fourth Best Captain America

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  • @DonWeaselYeehawEdition
    @DonWeaselYeehawEdition 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +146

    John Walker is such a great concept, he’s Captain America but who he would ACTUALLY be (because Steve is basically as idealistically good as Superman). He’s not a complete bad guy but he’s easily manipulated and he has a temper. Wyatt Russel’s performance as him in FWS was probably one of my favorites in the MCU.

    • @ogrejehosephatt37
      @ogrejehosephatt37 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So, super soldier powers is more realistic than being a consistently good person?

    • @elliswebster7041
      @elliswebster7041 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@ogrejehosephatt37 yes

    • @Quandryification
      @Quandryification 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The various steroids coupled with the the moral compass being adjusted to fit each individuals narrative along with people becoming less and less impatient the answer us yes.

    • @YAHSHUA777
      @YAHSHUA777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I Don't Believe That, yes our experiences change us, and we all can be impulsive, but be all have potential to be greater than our failures,
      Steve and Clark Kent have flaws, they aren't perfect, their both human, but they both choose to overcome their flaws because they know they can
      John could have overcame his anger dispite his situation, but sadly, he let his vanity and impulsiveness get in the way
      Yes, the Government Had a HUGE roll in John's mental decline, and that's a shame because it's all too real.
      but even then John could have followed Steves example and truly proved he could live up to the legend
      At the end of the day, Steve is a man just like John,
      and men fall but it's if we rise or not that makes a difference. It may sound corny but it's true

    • @pide5960
      @pide5960 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@YAHSHUA777you're forgetting that the seerum amplifies everything inside someone. John was shown to not have good mental health due to his past in the army and he took the seerum when he was even more unstable. You can see him struggling to keep his cool in the 4th episode and after Lemar's death he snaps. What "saved" him was that moment in the 6th episode where we realise he's still capable of making good decisions

  • @TheChiefBusta
    @TheChiefBusta 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    I liked him in FATWS, feels like he got a bad rap and sam and bucky treated him like shit just because he accepted a job that neither of them was willing to step up and accept themselves. Of course he ended up going too far but in a way that was fairly understandable, its like you said, living up to steve rdogers is nearly imposssible.

  • @kapitankapital6580
    @kapitankapital6580 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Honestly, MCU Judge Dredd feels like the best place to take his character. This is a man who tried to do the right thing, wasn't taken seriously, had a moment of bad optics and was betrayed by the government he gave everything to. Normally that would be a villain origin story, but this is a guy who just cannot bring himself to turn his back on the Stars and Stripes. Making him a secret fascist super-cop is a logical step for his character and creates an interesting dynamic within the Thunderbolts so that it isn't just Suicide Squad v 3.0.
    Also, if they do give him a shield again I think it would be neat for him to have one with different associations, perhaps more of a riot-shield style that insinuates authoritian violence rather than patriotic defence.

    • @ermanbumaguin8063
      @ermanbumaguin8063 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      such an awesome character, sick of the goodie perfect goofy for boys to admire

  • @Derekivery
    @Derekivery 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    YES! We're talking about John Walker! Not a favorite but a very interesting character.
    9 times out 10 when someone (usually a person who doesn't read comics) says how much they hate the idea of Captain America, because he thinks everything the American Government does is perfect and right... who they're actually describing is John Walker.

    • @zzirfamo24
      @zzirfamo24 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nope lol, you’re just mad cuz you have your personal opinion and people don’t agree with you lmfao. Sorry some people just don’t like him cuz they don’t like him

  • @PEHfinale
    @PEHfinale 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    John Walker was actually the co-Leader of the Thunderbolts in the 2010s. Sort of the "Xavier" to Luke Cage's "Cyclops" (Walker was injured and even in a wheelchair at the time).

  • @Marnie_C
    @Marnie_C 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    US Agent is a great character to discuss issues. Comics are at their best when they're commenting on the real world: X-Men for the rights movements, Civil War for the Patriot Act post 911, and the original Captain America representing the frustration of WW2 before the US joined the war. He felt like a more grounded Captain America, a realist vs an idealist. I just wished we saw him and Cap butt heads in the MCU.

    • @mekiherring2088
      @mekiherring2088 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      there relationship would've been like punisher and daredevil if cap was still alive

  • @LeAndre_McCoy
    @LeAndre_McCoy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I feel like the power decrease on 4+ cost cards could be a play on his insecurities and self destructive nature.
    He antagonizes anyone with a higher cost(status) than himself

  • @brettmoon26
    @brettmoon26 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    John is my favorite Captain America. Hes very much a good human being doing his best

  • @mikaylaeager7942
    @mikaylaeager7942 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My favorite Captain America pastiche is Aaron Fischer introduced just a couple years ago. He is the only Captain America that absolutely doesn’t feel like a cop.

  • @burgergud2804
    @burgergud2804 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    John Waller US Agent is top 5 best addition post endgame

  • @luisangel8147
    @luisangel8147 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He had another effect when datamines, he was a 2/6 that gave your other cards there -1 Power, which just was a negative Cap

  • @Derekivery
    @Derekivery 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I did not think about it, but Peacemaker is 100% the perfect adaptation of John Walker (well maybe 95%) and I would say including the character development for the most part. Walker is not a bad guy, he's just doesn't have the moral compass that Steve does.
    I think the idea of him being more of a cop now, makes sense, in that HE is not inherently bad, but if you put him in a system broken and/or corrupt he will do bad things.

    • @pjlusk7774
      @pjlusk7774 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah, they are pretty much identical characters. They both lack Steve's moral compass and are steeped in the right-wing Real American TM bullshit that makes them willing to do horrible things because it would be the American thing to do.

    • @loglorn
      @loglorn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      With much less nuance but this is also what i felt from the MCU Ronan the Accuser, he felt much more straightfowardly evil than his very Lawful Neutral portrayal in the comics, but later in the MCU you get the vibe that the Kree are a much more flawed system than they ever come across as in the comics and in a sense Ronan was still every bit as "lawful"

    • @projekttaku1
      @projekttaku1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@pjlusk7774 I don't know if he's very right wing or stuff like that, but he seems to submit to authority and try to keep the peace, even if he has to do horrific stuff to help America prosper.

    • @pjlusk7774
      @pjlusk7774 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@projekttaku1 Which one, Peacemaker or US Agent? Because being super right-wing is a fair characterization of both.

    • @projekttaku1
      @projekttaku1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pjlusk7774 Peacemaker.

  • @JoeJoe-lq6bd
    @JoeJoe-lq6bd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    US Agent also used the same outfit that Steve Rogers was using in his time as The Captain. So yeah, it was all pretty obvious.

  • @Axeloy
    @Axeloy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the original datamine had him at 2 | 6, Ongoing: your other cards here have -1 power
    I think that actually would've been a very cool card, and feels like it could fit way better. Impulsively it's got more power than cpt america, but in reality it would end up with less power output if he were put in a deck that had Cap in it too.

  • @Quantum_Comics
    @Quantum_Comics 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love the U.S.Agent

  • @myrmidon7
    @myrmidon7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    John Walker is the definition of someone who has good intentions, but uses bad methods.
    Well, at least he's not like Nuke.

  • @tamarismorgan7167
    @tamarismorgan7167 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Another banger from the Nando Cut

  • @ImnotMattMurdock
    @ImnotMattMurdock 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As much as I hate people like John Walker, I still got chills when he told Kingpin "I don't walk the line, I don't cross the line... I *am* the line." ☠️☠️☠️ (During Devil's Reign if anyone is curious.)

  • @willawake
    @willawake 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these videos so much

  • @LeoChaseTheMythMaster
    @LeoChaseTheMythMaster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just to say I love this series on Marvel Snap.
    Also, your fantastic MCU movie pitches are very inspirational.

  • @mohammedosman4902
    @mohammedosman4902 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unexpectedly interesting

  • @cliffwoodbury5319
    @cliffwoodbury5319 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    taking merchandise and mixing it with stories of every medium is cool as heck and other channels should do it, because when things are done right it is an amazing way to have all art forms incorperated into what you love.

  • @CaptainPikeachu
    @CaptainPikeachu 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I would say the MCU John Walker is faithful in the general comics John arc but very very different in terms that they DID tone down the character considerably. MCU John Walker is a puppy compared to Comics John who might as well be a rabid wolf by comparison. Also John has appeared in Thunderbolts stories before the recent issue of the team so he is known for the involvement with that team.

  • @mekiherring2088
    @mekiherring2088 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    ah yes, my favorite super solider in comics

    • @websurfer8670
      @websurfer8670 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Where the hell were you january 6?

    • @mekiherring2088
      @mekiherring2088 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@websurfer8670 I just like john better than steve

    • @mekiherring2088
      @mekiherring2088 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@websurfer8670 also what is that specific thing happened that day

  • @Dualgloves
    @Dualgloves 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey pretty cool. I don't know much about obscure characters like this.
    Do you think you could make one for Valentina?

  • @neilmonks2058
    @neilmonks2058 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the next US Agent should be Steve Rodgers son from the future. Don't let Cap find out till way later. Have them fight a few times.

  • @tomascrenzel7446
    @tomascrenzel7446 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i blame you for my marvel snap addiction

  • @yellowman5942
    @yellowman5942 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You should make a video on the most recent episode of 97’ I thought it was so good and interested to hear your thoughts

    • @wa495
      @wa495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I wasn't expecting that level of quality from this show. I was amazed at the last episode. I know you don't want to do an episode by episode breakdown but sheesh this one was heavy.

    • @mekiherring2088
      @mekiherring2088 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he did tho

    • @yellowman5942
      @yellowman5942 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mekiherring2088 not when I posted this lol

  • @cheesepiegreen
    @cheesepiegreen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He should be a 1/2 who gives +1 to all cards on another space, not ongoing but on reveal. So he’s a 1 cost but he doesn’t make sense till turn 3, but he doesn’t essentially what cap does but worse

  • @verdragon5591
    @verdragon5591 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I _think_ you can maybe argue Walker's effect is sort of a representation of him being sent out by the government to take down threats pre-emptively in that very American sort of "destabilize this regime before it can become a problem for us" way, like how they sicc him on the Flag-Smashers in the MCU, again, kind of like DCEU Peacemaker. But that can still apply to a lot of characters beyond just John Walker _specifically_, so I don't know.

  • @whiteoutgotu
    @whiteoutgotu หลายเดือนก่อน

    The *Power* Broker = Curtis Jackson 🤯🤯🤯

  • @gdow7719
    @gdow7719 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He is my favorite captain America pastiche how did you know

  • @sam7732
    @sam7732 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was so excited to get my spotlight key and aim to get US Agent... and the goddamn game is next to completely broken to the point where keys and caches just aren't even showing up anymore.

  • @HerbCoswellBornAgain
    @HerbCoswellBornAgain 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hope USAgent gets better treatment and a better redemption arc then the rushed Hackjob we got in FATWS.

    • @ShadowSonic2
      @ShadowSonic2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MCU Walker is already a more likeable character than comic Walker was.

  • @Tb0n33999
    @Tb0n33999 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a collector, I'm waiting for the movie in case Figuarts will repaint their US Agent figure. (They got a blue one, but never released a black version)

  • @sandwich3770
    @sandwich3770 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do a Hank Pym video

  • @johnyoung1097
    @johnyoung1097 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like John walker because he’s always so close to full redemption and then he does something that makes the fans go: joooohhhnnn 🙄😜

  • @ltob86
    @ltob86 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    John(ny) Walker -> Jack Daniels is pretty funny

  • @blurryperson2685
    @blurryperson2685 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you think that's bad remember arrow tried to spin it as the "hood" from season 1 and 2 is a different guy from green arrow according to public perception

  • @o0Takka0o
    @o0Takka0o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Particularly apt considering how often the Power Broker tries to get rich and dies trying.

  • @Lagi_zz
    @Lagi_zz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do a video talking about Alan ritchson wanting to be James Gunn Batman, personally I think he’s a great size for Batman but I don’t think he has Batman or Bruce Wayne vibes, I’ve seen him in quite a few stuff but maybe im wrong, would love to hear your thoughts.

  • @LevelUpSlimDown
    @LevelUpSlimDown 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For some reason I thought Patriots card was John Walker

  • @deanospimoniful
    @deanospimoniful 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Captain Falcon and the Winter Soldier. LOL

  • @benbingham7354
    @benbingham7354 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sad you didn’t mention the 911 shield

  • @TheSoulDivided
    @TheSoulDivided 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Captain America represents America's proffessed ideals. US Agent is much closer to American reality lol

  • @TheOther644
    @TheOther644 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Walker is my all time fav, I even like him more then Steve by far. His a badass that doesn't take lip, his a foot in mouth, condescending and not very PC kinda guy. But his like that with everyone, even those he'd give his life to save. Which some fan's often mistake him for being fascist or bigot, which isn't true at all. His flawed, and was/kinda still is patriotic to almost a fault. You know, there are roles and leaders in place that make those roles that we should follow. But not dictatorial or forced, he has fight against people like that. But cause of his patriotic believe, he was lied to and used more then once. Thankfully he always pulled it together, and does the right thing. His run in 00 in Maximum Security had him going pretty hard into F you I'm running things lol Like they turned him up to 11 and what he laid into Steve at the end of book 3. Revealing why he was doing it and who for, and the shocked look Steve had was priceless. I'm not a fan of the cop look they gave him, its not his style, though not a cop I'm down for him locking up super villains. This continued in his 2001 solo run, but he was more turned up to a 8 instead of 11 this time. Sadly writers have forgotten the things his been through and what progression the character has made. Liked in 2019 Captain America Vol 9, Force Works 2020 and his solo run 2021's American Zealot. He made a pretty good character development in those, like becoming disillusioned with the government. It sucks that the writers ignore the change, and it kills me cause I want to see it farther explored. It also sucks that they downgraded the character and often forget him. I'm not big on the new look, but this card makes it look great. But I kinda wish they'd keep the star on the shield, and go with a red and black and red for it. The flag on his chest is fine, but I'd change the white to black, and keep the white side lining and star. Go back to the all black sleeves, and go back to the classic red boots and gloves.
    The info was a bit fast, and only really focused on his start. But still, for a 12m The Nando Cut did a pretty good job. Walker did join the army, but the war was over and he didn't see any action. He did get his powers from the Power Broker, and did plan on becoming a wrestler for him. Totally unaware Power Broker was a criminal that used the people he gave powers too. He was only gonna do it to pay Broker back. But Walkers agent convinced him to become a hero instead. Cooper did pick him to be the next Cap, and over Nick Fury and Nuke. The thing is Walker didn't want to be Cap, I mean for one they had different ways in handling bad guys. But mainly cause he wanted to be his own guy, the Super Patriot. He did ok as Cap, but they wanted him to act just like Steve and even had him trained to fight just like him too. His two friends that didn't join him, well he had no choice cause the government didn't want them. But they didn't know that, blamed him and outed his identity. The watchdogs (possibly under orders from the Red Skull) killed his parents and dud lost it. Which lead to him killing Life-Wing and Right-Wing. In the end, Red Skull pretending to be Steve tricked Walker into think it was all Steve's doing. But the truth come out and Steve with a bit of aid from Walker beat Red Skull. But cause of all the stuff Red Skull did to make Cap (ie Walker) look bad, they wanted Steve back or replace Walker. Walker convinced him to be Cap again.

  • @thechadti2ndChannel
    @thechadti2ndChannel หลายเดือนก่อน

    You mean CLEARLY second best.

  • @Cha_Hari
    @Cha_Hari 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean they really couldn't have made him worse Cap since Cap is about as bad as cards get in this game lol.

  • @pjlusk7774
    @pjlusk7774 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    US Agent is the character people who don't read comics tend to think Captain America is, a government stooge full of dumbshit Fox News talking points.
    Also, Johnnie Walker is up there with Jefferson Davis in terms of worst comic book civilian names.

    • @pjlusk7774
      @pjlusk7774 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wait, they named him Jack Daniels after he first became US Agent? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    • @pjlusk7774
      @pjlusk7774 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is a testament to how few non-white people there were in the Marvel Comics bullpen at the time that it took several issues before anyone realized that giving a black guy the codename Bucky would be a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad idea

  • @XHero220
    @XHero220 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So Yeah John Walker is the best Captain America than Sam Wilson and Bucky Barnes.

    • @ShadowSonic2
      @ShadowSonic2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sure, if you want FOX News Captain America

  • @dariusfloyd5410
    @dariusfloyd5410 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sell out

  • @callme_pipes
    @callme_pipes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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