I watched this when I was 16 - I'm 17 now - and as Dr. Big-hands-toilet-hair says, I've never seen a film that I can relate to as much as I did with Perks of a Wallflower, it like it was made for me, so much so, that my eyes were waterised throughout. It encapsulates that angsty, alienated feeling better than any film I've ever seen (granted, I haven't seen every film even made); would anyone mind directing me to films that had a similar effect on them?
You are 27 now, but my brother I'm 17 who will turn 18 this year. And i had my list of watching all the best teenager movies this summer. I guess i can say it as my summer of becoming 18 ( an adult)😂. I got few movies for me - call me by your name - perks of being a wallflower - love, Simon - summer of '86 - i forgot (I'll edit it later )😅
This was easily the best of 2012. It's not really the storyline, it's how they go about it. The dialogue is witty and reflects teenage life perfectly, characters are all fleshed-out and the entire time I was drawn in. It goes into really dark directions that are all moving and not exploitive in the slightest, all while balancing humor with sadness. I actually saw this seven times and it never lost its power, which is a fantastic feat in itself. It sounds generous, but... 9.8/10.
How is it a plot hole if the characters haven't heard a song that is similar to the music they like? I love noir films but that doesn't mean I have heard of/seen every great film in that genre.
In the nineties I listened to indie music and largely ignored David Bowie who was this guy my parents kept enjoying watching when he sang „Tonight” with Tina Turner
The fact that neither of the three main characters knew Heroes really bothered me for quite a bit of the movie but thankfully the movie is good enough that I enjoyed it immensely despite this. Easily one of the best I've seen this year and quite possibly will be the best once I go back and have a look.
I have a friend who thought Watson's accent was terrible, even though he is English, but I personally thought it was really good, thought maybe because I'm not American I hadn't noticed how bad it was, I'm glad Kermode dissagrees though and also thinks it was a good accent. Not sure if its the correct one for the movies setting but as an American accent to an Englishman I thought it was quite good.
This is a typical example of how narrow minded film critics can get. They get so tangled up in thoughts that may apply to other movies that they forget the simple way of thinking the general public has. It's intelligence turned dumb.
There was very little subtly to the film, these broken and alienated characters weren't a little broken they were smashed with abuse, death and disaster, also I thought some of the script and acting was overly theatrical. That said, the film was saved by a brilliant lead in Logan Lerman, whose pain and joy were palpable, some nicely played supporting characters (like Charlie's family), and a number of plot turns and scenes which were beautifully scripted and shot.
"the simple way of thinking the general public has"? To me, that sounds a lot more narrow-minded to me than Kermode's review. Kermode does operate on the assumption of his audience having watched a few films - otherwise why would they be interested in a review anyway? But one can easily understand his thoughts on a film without having seen the other films he mentions. It just gives you something to look into if you want to.
I don't know why did they used 'Heroes' by David Bowie as the tunnel song, but in the book they have a completely different set of songs mentioned as the story moves on. Maybe, it is because the movie was a low-budget production and they couldn't afford the song mentioned in the book, which is 'Smells like teen spirit' by Nirvana.
I don't find the whole dark high school thing not very new. It's a stereotypical story that I've grown tired of. 1-D characters that aren't in the main group and very entertainingly sappy imo. I don't have much teenage angst. Really the only angst I have is over pretentious teenage angst. I think people feel they have to dramatize a rather easy point in life, in my experience anyway, to overwhelm teens into thinking life is really like this movie.
Found this film very clichéd and without an ounce of subtlety - Miller and Watson's characters in particular felt unbelievable and bland. Lead actor was great though.
This is what's known as a 'straw-man' argument; you construct your own argument, attribute to someone else, and the use the faux argument attributed to someone else against them. Not that I have a horse in this race, or a dog in this fight, I just wanted to raise a red flag. Still, I think I make a salient and cogent point, not entirely laced with insouciance....
@@jpaxonreyes The first scene you see her in she just sounds English but it gets better for most of the rest of the film but still not great. I still think it was a good performance though.
I'm very confused by the various positive reactions to this film; am i missing something? Character's weren't likable, the plot was somewhat non-existent, it retold the same old stories of confused adolescents as though it were some incredibly interesting and rare occurrence and included some of the most excruciatingly conceited pieces of dialogue i've ever heard.
I wonder if you have rewatched it and changed your mind. It's so highly praised for the undertones and the reasons the characters are the way they are. Also because the acting is perfect.
@@AndrewTheKingOfPenguins I guess everyone just dont like the same films. For me "perks" is a very good film. It doesn't do anything super special but I remember that watching it was easy and it made me feel good. That means to me that the film is very good, when I don't feel bored and I get drawn in. I can't really say what does it, maybe its something about storytelling, or whatever.
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I watched this when I was 16 - I'm 17 now - and as Dr. Big-hands-toilet-hair says, I've never seen a film that I can relate to as much as I did with Perks of a Wallflower, it like it was made for me, so much so, that my eyes were waterised throughout. It encapsulates that angsty, alienated feeling better than any film I've ever seen (granted, I haven't seen every film even made); would anyone mind directing me to films that had a similar effect on them?
You are 27 now, but my brother I'm 17 who will turn 18 this year. And i had my list of watching all the best teenager movies this summer. I guess i can say it as my summer of becoming 18 ( an adult)😂. I got few movies for me
- call me by your name
- perks of being a wallflower
- love, Simon
- summer of '86
- i forgot (I'll edit it later )😅
This was easily the best of 2012. It's not really the storyline, it's how they go about it. The dialogue is witty and reflects teenage life perfectly, characters are all fleshed-out and the entire time I was drawn in. It goes into really dark directions that are all moving and not exploitive in the slightest, all while balancing humor with sadness. I actually saw this seven times and it never lost its power, which is a fantastic feat in itself. It sounds generous, but... 9.8/10.
One of the best books I’ve ever read
How is it a plot hole if the characters haven't heard a song that is similar to the music they like? I love noir films but that doesn't mean I have heard of/seen every great film in that genre.
Mark: "Have you ever seen-
Simon: "No"
One of the best movies i've ever seen.
In the nineties I listened to indie music and largely ignored David Bowie who was this guy my parents kept enjoying watching when he sang „Tonight” with Tina Turner
The fact that neither of the three main characters knew Heroes really bothered me for quite a bit of the movie but thankfully the movie is good enough that I enjoyed it immensely despite this. Easily one of the best I've seen this year and quite possibly will be the best once I go back and have a look.
Just seen it. Amazing.
I hadn't heard Heroes until I was 19
Oh yeah, I was amazed that they used 'Heroes' after it was in that obscure German movie.
I really liked this movie. Intelligent and interesting.
I have a friend who thought Watson's accent was terrible, even though he is English, but I personally thought it was really good, thought maybe because I'm not American I hadn't noticed how bad it was, I'm glad Kermode dissagrees though and also thinks it was a good accent. Not sure if its the correct one for the movies setting but as an American accent to an Englishman I thought it was quite good.
I’m 8 years late but I’m here to let you know. I legitimately didn’t know she was attempting an American accent
This is a typical example of how narrow minded film critics can get. They get so tangled up in thoughts that may apply to other movies that they forget the simple way of thinking the general public has. It's intelligence turned dumb.
*'THE EXORCIST' KLAXON*
There was very little subtly to the film, these broken and alienated characters weren't a little broken they were smashed with abuse, death and disaster, also I thought some of the script and acting was overly theatrical. That said, the film was saved by a brilliant lead in Logan Lerman, whose pain and joy were palpable, some nicely played supporting characters (like Charlie's family), and a number of plot turns and scenes which were beautifully scripted and shot.
"the simple way of thinking the general public has"? To me, that sounds a lot more narrow-minded to me than Kermode's review. Kermode does operate on the assumption of his audience having watched a few films - otherwise why would they be interested in a review anyway? But one can easily understand his thoughts on a film without having seen the other films he mentions. It just gives you something to look into if you want to.
I don't know why did they used 'Heroes' by David Bowie as the tunnel song, but in the book they have a completely different set of songs mentioned as the story moves on. Maybe, it is because the movie was a low-budget production and they couldn't afford the song mentioned in the book, which is 'Smells like teen spirit' by Nirvana.
What can you way about a review that spends five minutes criticizing the airbrushing of the poster?
I don't find the whole dark high school thing not very new. It's a stereotypical story that I've grown tired of. 1-D characters that aren't in the main group and very entertainingly sappy imo. I don't have much teenage angst. Really the only angst I have is over pretentious teenage angst. I think people feel they have to dramatize a rather easy point in life, in my experience anyway, to overwhelm teens into thinking life is really like this movie.
Found this film very clichéd and without an ounce of subtlety - Miller and Watson's characters in particular felt unbelievable and bland. Lead actor was great though.
This is what's known as a 'straw-man' argument; you construct your own argument, attribute to someone else, and the use the faux argument attributed to someone else against them. Not that I have a horse in this race, or a dog in this fight, I just wanted to raise a red flag. Still, I think I make a salient and cogent point, not entirely laced with insouciance....
The hell did you just say six years ago‽
I disagree, Emma Watson’s American accent was terrible
It wasn't awful.
Bulls**t. Her American accent wasn't terrible.
It wasn't _terrible_ but it wasn't fully convincing.
@@jpaxonreyes The first scene you see her in she just sounds English but it gets better for most of the rest of the film but still not great. I still think it was a good performance though.
I'm very confused by the various positive reactions to this film; am i missing something? Character's weren't likable, the plot was somewhat non-existent, it retold the same old stories of confused adolescents as though it were some incredibly interesting and rare occurrence and included some of the most excruciatingly conceited pieces of dialogue i've ever heard.
I wonder if you have rewatched it and changed your mind. It's so highly praised for the undertones and the reasons the characters are the way they are. Also because the acting is perfect.
@@AndrewTheKingOfPenguins I guess everyone just dont like the same films. For me "perks" is a very good film. It doesn't do anything super special but I remember that watching it was easy and it made me feel good. That means to me that the film is very good, when I don't feel bored and I get drawn in. I can't really say what does it, maybe its something about storytelling, or whatever.