I am NOT a doctor (I don't even play one on TV!), but I too am impressed with the level of research that goes into your videos. For a bunch of goofy (okay, FUN LOVING) "kids" (I am 60), you guys really nail the science aspect. (The goofiness aspect is appreciated as well.) I love your videos, I watch every one, and I also happen to think you two are SUPER accomplished tennis players. Oh, I forgot to mention how good your video production skills are - TOP NOTCH! Especially the use of graphics to illustrate a point. As a visual learner, this is paramount to how well I comprehend a subject. Thank you sincerely for all of the above! Plus the goofiness factor, did I mention that? Heh heh...
When I learned to "read" the ball, I got so much better at winning championships in the 80's. It starts by assessing your opponents racquet at his/her impact.
❤your laughs 😂, you’re very entertaining. Most important is i actually want to implement every tip in this video as soon as i’m back on the court! Thanks for putting this together 👏👏👏
Ambitious! I’m an MD and was impressed. Whomever you consulted to make this video, big thanks to them too for merging my two favorite life works. If it was just you, even more impressive. Can’t wait for the next in this series.
I am a physician as well. (Family Physician)I haven’t thought through this level of detail of special senses neuroanatomy since my first year of med school. Wonderful refresher! Thank you. Really appreciate your logical strategic lesson. I thought to myself, “Where is this guy? I would love to have him teach me.” Thank you. Jrnmd
14:29 One of the best things about 'watching the ball' is not actually the watching per se - but _*it also makes you keep your shape and your balance*:_
I LOVE the advice about focusing on THE CONTACT ZONE. This is what I do...I predict where the ball is going to be, and I start looking at the point in space where my racket is going to make contact with the ball. Then I move my body so that I have proper spacing... not too close to the contact point, not too far away. Then I whip the racket through the contact zone... BUT I KEEP MY EYES FOCUSED on the contact zone! I try to NEVER watch the flight of my shot. Don't do it! Instead, i look at where I think my shot is going to land... but only after keeping my eyes on the contract point for a second.
You guys are God's gift to tennis tuition. You have your finger on the pulse of how ordinary players think and *want* to learn. You should be so proud.
One of the rare guys on the net who knows what he is talking about I would like to add that the quiet eye technique allows you to keep a good balance Ps: i like his way of laughing too
I use the quiet eye. I don't bother to stare at the ball but look about a foot or two in front of contact. I just keep my head still. What I noticed is that I tend to mishit less if I hit more flat, that is have a more horizontal swing path. Especially when ball is on the rise. When the ball is dropping, it makes more sense to swing up on the ball. Since I play the baseline more, I tend to hit flat a lot.
I have a big flat backhand and I use Fed's topspin backhand for hitting the flat drive, the topspin drive, and I also slice drive with that finish which also gives me sidespin. I don't always use the L Finish all the time to skim the ball when doing slice backhand. I like the Sidespin slice which looks like a normal flat drive but soon as the ball bounces it moves away from people..
Man, love your guys' videos! Just when I thought that I didn't need someone new to follow in my learning journey, I realized that is not the case. Really liking your content! Thanks!
At some point in this video, I thought I was watching a science video 🤣 I still enjoyed it and learned a lot about it. I played Beach Tennis and Volleyball so I did not have to follow the ball all the way to my arm or request when I hit it, now I am finding myself hitting the frame of the racquet because I look at the target as the ball gets closer to me. Thanks for confirming what I thought I was doing wrong and I will report back after a few practices. Thanks bud! 👍
This is great advice, and it goes the same for baseball. If I noticed a kid looking into the field as they would swing. I would move the ball up, down, and side to side until I saw their head follow the ball. It helped drive the point home that I wanted their head to follow the ball, not just their eyes.
I just happened to come across your video, and as a Table Tennis player / coach, I can really resonate with the information shared ! Such as pre-visualising the shot and not actually looking at the ball all the way, and the proprioception where you can really differentiate between a clean shot from a not so ideal one. Always good to keep an open mind I guess, never stop learning ! Thanks for sharing 😊
EXCEPTIONAL content, lots to absorb, this will improve my contact point. Strangely enough, yesterday, I just finished reading from the site Revolutionary Tennis on this same subject. Quiet eye, lovin it. Thank you very much for this post.
I think rublev is really good at showing this concept. He sort of lines it up by making a straight arm with his non hitting arm (for his forehand) and you can see he makes this claw with his fingers and then he just swipes as hard as he can hitting it well in front of with a ton of extension while exhaling a “bweeaahh “ sound. That’s one thing I think you may have forgotten… breathing and exhaling is a key part of clean striking
Again! Great video! You guys are the quintessence of what makes TH-cam the great equalizer! Lol last compliment (unless you guys come out with other bomb content - which you have! Still…). Haha! Great work!
besides the helpful demo on how vision works in tennis, also enjoyed how smooth everything is in this video. The editing, writing, even the transition into ad read ;)
Federer is left eye dominant, so watching the ball until contact on his forehand makes sense. For most of us, quiet eye works better being right eye dominant.
Exactly big thing missing in this video. The main reason why djokovic and federer have such different forehands is the difference in eye dominance. Also think that Medvedev is left eye dominant, one of the reasons for his funky style. You cant turn your body as much during the forehand because you need to ensure you see the ball with your left eye
@@augustoudshoorn7816 What difference is there in relation to stances ? Both hit all stances . Have different grip . That is Nothing to do with eys . Early Fed Forhand pretty similar to Djoky shape . So explain.
15:50 Tim Galway's brilliant book "The Inner Game of Tennis" has one exercise/game called "bounce-hit". I've done it - it is genius and transformative! Give it a go....
Great video. Love the giggles. I did always wonder why Djokovic when he receives the service, he looks down, and up, back down and up again. Why is that? did you see this?
I think he is ‘training’ his eyes to quickly focus onto the incoming ball before it actually happens. If you watch some videos on baseball the coaches are goving similar advice to optimize the visualization of a fast incoming ball and improving your chance to hit it well. I think djokovic is focusing on his racket (close) and then onto the racket or ball of the opponent (far)
Great video @Racquetflex. Totally unrelated question, but is that a Yonex VCore 97 310g you’re using? I see you’ve weighted it in the throat? Anywhere else, and what are the final specs including the strings? I’m on a journey with this racket so still searching for the right setup 👍
Thanks for the very informative video. I've been working on the "Quiet eye" at contact. Could you please tell me the name/location of the court at 13:18? Bucket list vacation.
0:48 watching the ball is THE most important skill. You can have all the footwork, immaculate balance, technical biomechanics in shot production - but they're all heavily eroded by hoiking your eyes off the ball just as it approaches....
Hi Dayday: I have a question specifically about STRENGTH. Imagine that a tennis player has perfect strokes, footwork, all of it. Imagine that their serve, forehand and backhand look EXACTLY like Federer in his prime, BUT, this player has only 1/2 the muscle strength of Federer. How much would this player's serve speed and groundstroke speed be reduced?
Thanks for the awesome content. One question about contact point: I always thought that the best is at hip level, but my son's coach (he is 10, plays in junior tournaments) advices him to hit the ball at shoulder lever. Any thoughts?
At shoulder level, you can still have good control of the swing, and the advantage is you'd take the ball earlier. However, that's not easy to do if the pace is fast. And to do that effectively your foot speed needs to be fast also. This is how Federer plays lots of time, but it would be hard to emulate, even for pro players.
@@lilies9251 If he plays two handed BH, it's not as difficult to take the ball at shoulder level, and I think these days just about all kids were taught the two hander BH. Sampras played two hander BH until he was 14. The coach might be trying to get him comfortable taking ball at shoulder level, as that is more challenging. But you see pros do that all the time, both sides. Did you see them lifting one leg and jump to hit a high two handed BH ? Even Shapovalov did that with a one hander.
At which point would you recommend a player to consider where to place the returning shot? Is that when you also imagine how the shoot should feel like?
@Anders Riedel it depends on your positioning, how confident you are in your footwork (after the split step [always split step right before opponent contact] )at the time of shot, the tactical demand the incoming shot is putting on you (high bouncing topspin vs easy sitter without a lot of spin dynamics etc), whether you are in the middle of the baseline/they are in middle of baseline, what tactical demand did your outgoing shot put on them (strong deep heavy topspin vs pushed mid distance easy sitter). Your self-shot recognition as well as recognizing their shot making process tells you a lot about what you can do based on your skillset. Recognizing the quality of your outgoing shot can in itself be a tactic if the opponent struggles with heavy dynamics (spins) you put on the ball. You are building an idea of how and where to respond to incoming shots this entire time. Even though the explanation is huge, this is all actually happening in a short amount of time. Cheers Anders!
Proprioception is a very difficult skill to master. Training in calisthenics or gymnastics is a great way to learn how your body moves and learn how to sense what your body is doing
Great explanation and great video, perhaps you could do a follow-up video on "Five Drills To Hit Cleaner Shots" - part two?, something along those lines?
Wait, no talk about dominate eye?? Literally why Fed and Nadal can track the ball all the way to contact on their forehand. They have dominate opposite eye whereas a lot of people have same sided dominance.
What a brilliant, high-content video this was! I love proper science - there's WAAAY to much pseudo-science in sports 'advice' videos - and I think this looks like high grade sports science to me...
The science here is spot on. I am an ophthalmologist and was pleasantly surprised at this explanation and how it was articulated.
Why surprised?
@@AJfinity I think so much of tennis instruction is the blind leading the blind but this ostensibly wasn't the case
Sure you are
@@limes..100. Yes indeed. Mayo School of Medicine 1986.
I am NOT a doctor (I don't even play one on TV!), but I too am impressed with the level of research that goes into your videos. For a bunch of goofy (okay, FUN LOVING) "kids" (I am 60), you guys really nail the science aspect. (The goofiness aspect is appreciated as well.) I love your videos, I watch every one, and I also happen to think you two are SUPER accomplished tennis players.
Oh, I forgot to mention how good your video production skills are - TOP NOTCH! Especially the use of graphics to illustrate a point. As a visual learner, this is paramount to how well I comprehend a subject. Thank you sincerely for all of the above! Plus the goofiness factor, did I mention that? Heh heh...
Sharing your exceptional and fun presentation with the "kids" I coach at my weekly pickleball clinic in a retirement center.
When I learned to "read" the ball, I got so much better at winning championships in the 80's. It starts by assessing your opponents racquet at his/her impact.
❤your laughs 😂, you’re very entertaining. Most important is i actually want to implement every tip in this video as soon as i’m back on the court! Thanks for putting this together 👏👏👏
Ambitious! I’m an MD and was impressed. Whomever you consulted to make this video, big thanks to them too for merging my two favorite life works. If it was just you, even more impressive. Can’t wait for the next in this series.
I am a physician as well. (Family Physician)I haven’t thought through this level of detail of special senses neuroanatomy since my first year of med
school. Wonderful refresher! Thank you. Really appreciate your logical strategic lesson. I thought to myself, “Where is this guy? I would love to have him teach me.” Thank you. Jrnmd
Best and complete explanation on quiet eyes and clean hitting. Excellent!
14:29 One of the best things about 'watching the ball' is not actually the watching per se - but _*it also makes you keep your shape and your balance*:_
This guy’s entertaining to listen to. Watched the whole thing and it made a lotta sense.
I LOVE the advice about focusing on THE CONTACT ZONE. This is what I do...I predict where the ball is going to be, and I start looking at the point in space where my racket is going to make contact with the ball. Then I move my body so that I have proper spacing... not too close to the contact point, not too far away. Then I whip the racket through the contact zone... BUT I KEEP MY EYES FOCUSED on the contact zone! I try to NEVER watch the flight of my shot. Don't do it! Instead, i look at where I think my shot is going to land... but only after keeping my eyes on the contract point for a second.
Hmmm, this is a new concept for me. One I'll work on!
Quality content. Backed by science, delivered with humor and edited well. And the tennis is pretty dang good!
You guys are God's gift to tennis tuition. You have your finger on the pulse of how ordinary players think and *want* to learn. You should be so proud.
One of the rare guys on the net who knows what he is talking about
I would like to add that the quiet eye technique allows you to keep a good balance
Ps: i like his way of laughing too
Apart from the great video i liked your laughter. Man your laughter is contagious :)
Beautiful work! Thank you
Brilliant content as always, so articulate as well. Kids at my local tennis club are benefiting from your content here in the UK
That's music to my ears christopherjohnson5486!
I use the quiet eye. I don't bother to stare at the ball but look about a foot or two in front of contact. I just keep my head still. What I noticed is that I tend to mishit less if I hit more flat, that is have a more horizontal swing path. Especially when ball is on the rise. When the ball is dropping, it makes more sense to swing up on the ball. Since I play the baseline more, I tend to hit flat a lot.
I have a big flat backhand and I use Fed's topspin backhand for hitting the flat drive, the topspin drive, and I also slice drive with that finish
which also gives me sidespin. I don't always use the L Finish all the time to skim the ball when doing slice backhand. I like the Sidespin slice which looks like a normal flat drive but soon as the ball bounces it moves away from people..
Wally, you don't have a hard time keeping the ball in/hitting the net? I guess you take a little pace off the ball, yes?
Perfect lesson. What I needed to practice next time. Thanks man.
Man, love your guys' videos! Just when I thought that I didn't need someone new to follow in my learning journey, I realized that is not the case. Really liking your content! Thanks!
didn't expect this great level of technical explanation ! 👏. awesome
On 18:27, when trying to show how a courious person hits a ball your face is hilarious 🤣🤣. By the way, an excellent video 👍
At some point in this video, I thought I was watching a science video 🤣 I still enjoyed it and learned a lot about it. I played Beach Tennis and Volleyball so I did not have to follow the ball all the way to my arm or request when I hit it, now I am finding myself hitting the frame of the racquet because I look at the target as the ball gets closer to me. Thanks for confirming what I thought I was doing wrong and I will report back after a few practices. Thanks bud! 👍
This is great advice, and it goes the same for baseball. If I noticed a kid looking into the field as they would swing. I would move the ball up, down, and side to side until I saw their head follow the ball. It helped drive the point home that I wanted their head to follow the ball, not just their eyes.
I just happened to come across your video, and as a Table Tennis player / coach, I can really resonate with the information shared ! Such as pre-visualising the shot and not actually looking at the ball all the way, and the proprioception where you can really differentiate between a clean shot from a not so ideal one. Always good to keep an open mind I guess, never stop learning ! Thanks for sharing 😊
Thoroughly impressed at the coverage of vision biology!
This is one of the best videos i have seen. Keep up the good work broskis.
Thank so much the this video. It is really help me to understand how to watch the ball concepts, and your laugh make it so delightful.😂
So funny and explanatory at the same time. Thank you so much.
EXCEPTIONAL content, lots to absorb, this will improve my contact point. Strangely enough, yesterday, I just finished reading from the site Revolutionary Tennis on this same subject. Quiet eye, lovin it.
Thank you very much for this post.
Bro!!! excellent video, you did a big research to make it, keep doing this because you're helping a lot of players!!!👍👍👍
Thanks for the kind words and support nogueraveneg!
Excellent! Very, very informative, great production, editing and funny too. Thanks!
Excellent and helpful information. I admire the sense of humor too. Thanks much coach..
Awesome video guys! I love it
You guys are not only informative, you're also funny. Thanks for sharing your talent and passion...
my fav Tennis tuber. great personality
Great!
Have you released the video that you mentioned at the end of this one about ideal contact point?
Thank´s from Brazil! Very helpfull!
So well articulated. Great job and thanks for all your amazing tips
Great video as always. Cheers from Brazil!
You guys definitely have the best tennis coaching channel on YT. Spot on guys👍
Thanks grantdelmege2724!
Thank you! Great video
Love your video AND your goofy laugh! 😂
very useful for me thanks )
Incredible information
Genius content. Absolutely genius.
I think rublev is really good at showing this concept. He sort of lines it up by making a straight arm with his non hitting arm (for his forehand) and you can see he makes this claw with his fingers and then he just swipes as hard as he can hitting it well in front of with a ton of extension while exhaling a “bweeaahh “ sound. That’s one thing I think you may have forgotten… breathing and exhaling is a key part of clean striking
the tennis court where you played is very beautiful...where is the court located? Swiss?
Again! Great video! You guys are the quintessence of what makes TH-cam the great equalizer! Lol last compliment (unless you guys come out with other bomb content - which you have! Still…). Haha! Great work!
Excellent video!!
I love your videos. Please post more often.
besides the helpful demo on how vision works in tennis, also enjoyed how smooth everything is in this video. The editing, writing, even the transition into ad read ;)
Thanks for the kind words Ji-Ye! I'm glad you liked it.
Love your videos!! 🎾 🎉
REally great video, appreciate all the work that went into this. Tons of great tips!
Federer is left eye dominant, so watching the ball until contact on his forehand makes sense. For most of us, quiet eye works better being right eye dominant.
Exactly big thing missing in this video. The main reason why djokovic and federer have such different forehands is the difference in eye dominance.
Also think that Medvedev is left eye dominant, one of the reasons for his funky style. You cant turn your body as much during the forehand because you need to ensure you see the ball with your left eye
Quiet eye ?
What does that mean?
Fedsy keeps eyes on point of contact on both sides .
@@augustoudshoorn7816
What difference is there in relation to stances ?
Both hit all stances .
Have different grip .
That is Nothing to do with eys .
Early Fed Forhand pretty similar to Djoky shape .
So explain.
@@drejtoman2974 I wouldn't worry about eye stuff, focus more on lining up your contact at 45 degrees and being fluid.
Excellent guys!!!!
15:50 Tim Galway's brilliant book "The Inner Game of Tennis" has one exercise/game called "bounce-hit". I've done it - it is genius and transformative! Give it a go....
Fantastic, thanks
Excelente content. Thank you
Great video. Love the giggles. I did always wonder why Djokovic when he receives the service, he looks down, and up, back down and up again. Why is that? did you see this?
I think he is ‘training’ his eyes to quickly focus onto the incoming ball before it actually happens.
If you watch some videos on baseball the coaches are goving similar advice to optimize the visualization of a fast incoming ball and improving your chance to hit it well. I think djokovic is focusing on his racket (close) and then onto the racket or ball of the opponent (far)
such a good person, u got my sub and like keep it up
Thanks
Great video @Racquetflex. Totally unrelated question, but is that a Yonex VCore 97 310g you’re using? I see you’ve weighted it in the throat? Anywhere else, and what are the final specs including the strings? I’m on a journey with this racket so still searching for the right setup 👍
May we get a video regarding competition play and how to get better at it? Maybe a practice set between our favorite instructors?
Thanks for the very informative video. I've been working on the "Quiet eye" at contact. Could you please tell me the name/location of the court at 13:18? Bucket list vacation.
It's a beautiful tennis court indeed 😉 It's in a hotel called Adler Adelboden in Switzerland.
This is so great
A lot of science-based work resulted, as always, in a brilliant video, Dayday !
Thanks ruilima3234!
Thx bro.
If i'm not mistaken, Fed is left eye dominant, thats the main reason. He need to watch the ball with his left eye.
great video! btw.. can you tell me where I can buy that uniqlo shirt you are wearing. LOL
Great vid
0:48 watching the ball is THE most important skill. You can have all the footwork, immaculate balance, technical biomechanics in shot production - but they're all heavily eroded by hoiking your eyes off the ball just as it approaches....
Brillant.
Sick split-step @10:43
like me 18:18 as a beginner. btw nice smile dude 😂
So good. "Look behind the strings"
We're glad you like it evanoscargilbert2592!
Would be funny if you were left eye dominant and your hair covered your left eye when it was long. OMG your smile at 18:17 made me lol
what grip do you have on that Yonex? L7? :D it look huge.
your laugh is contagious bro
Hi Dayday: I have a question specifically about STRENGTH. Imagine that a tennis player has perfect strokes, footwork, all of it. Imagine that their serve, forehand and backhand look EXACTLY like Federer in his prime, BUT, this player has only 1/2 the muscle strength of Federer. How much would this player's serve speed and groundstroke speed be reduced?
18:24 like Andy Murray: always falling off his forehand
Great video, by the way, what is the racket you are holding? it looks beautiful!
I'm pretty sure is the Yonex Vcore Pro, latest model.
Yes, Yonex Vcore Pro 2022.
@@RacquetFlex 97 or 100 inches?
You have an amazing talent to present, ever thought about pursuing a presenter career besides YT?
Good 👍 ❤
Thanks for the awesome content. One question about contact point: I always thought that the best is at hip level, but my son's coach (he is 10, plays in junior tournaments) advices him to hit the ball at shoulder lever. Any thoughts?
At shoulder level, you can still have good control of the swing, and the advantage is you'd take the ball earlier. However, that's not easy to do if the pace is fast. And to do that effectively your foot speed needs to be fast also. This is how Federer plays lots of time, but it would be hard to emulate, even for pro players.
@@tomsd8656 thank you! yes, for a 10 year old is quite difficult, especially on the BH side
@@lilies9251 If he plays two handed BH, it's not as difficult to take the ball at shoulder level, and I think these days just about all kids were taught the two hander BH. Sampras played two hander BH until he was 14. The coach might be trying to get him comfortable taking ball at shoulder level, as that is more challenging. But you see pros do that all the time, both sides. Did you see them lifting one leg and jump to hit a high two handed BH ? Even Shapovalov did that with a one hander.
@@tomsd8656 I see, many thanks for your comments
Gracias 🇪🇸
I wish you were my tennis and science teacher
At which point would you recommend a player to consider where to place the returning shot? Is that when you also imagine how the shoot should feel like?
@Anders Riedel it depends on your positioning, how confident you are in your footwork (after the split step [always split step right before opponent contact] )at the time of shot, the tactical demand the incoming shot is putting on you (high bouncing topspin vs easy sitter without a lot of spin dynamics etc), whether you are in the middle of the baseline/they are in middle of baseline, what tactical demand did your outgoing shot put on them (strong deep heavy topspin vs pushed mid distance easy sitter). Your self-shot recognition as well as recognizing their shot making process tells you a lot about what you can do based on your skillset. Recognizing the quality of your outgoing shot can in itself be a tactic if the opponent struggles with heavy dynamics (spins) you put on the ball. You are building an idea of how and where to respond to incoming shots this entire time. Even though the explanation is huge, this is all actually happening in a short amount of time.
Cheers Anders!
Took the opportunity to watch the video again. This is high quality coaching guys. Absolutely loving it.
I will be applying those concepts to my Pickleball play. Those concepts would not have been easy to explain by most people. What a great job you did!
That's awesome guittadabe5214! Thanks for watching.
pickleball gay
@@yourlocalpotato7483 Hate to agree with a homophobic troll, but... yeah. Pickleball is for *_weennies_*
The sound alone makes me wanna *_HEAVE..._*
Proprioception is a very difficult skill to master. Training in calisthenics or gymnastics is a great way to learn how your body moves and learn how to sense what your body is doing
are you guys based in Long Beach?
Yonex vcore pro 100, 300g?
Man you.. your laugh is funny as facks… ey hey hey hey 😂 and this is a very helpful video great job 👏
Good
Great explanation and great video, perhaps you could do a follow-up video on "Five Drills To Hit Cleaner Shots" - part two?, something along those lines?
Wait, no talk about dominate eye?? Literally why Fed and Nadal can track the ball all the way to contact on their forehand. They have dominate opposite eye whereas a lot of people have same sided dominance.
Another talent is, to know where the ball and racket will meet while you look at the exact point you want to hit the shot.
Great video guys.... You would be get double payment from TH-cam for teach tennis and for make us laughs...
What a brilliant, high-content video this was! I love proper science - there's WAAAY to much pseudo-science in sports 'advice' videos - and I think this looks like high grade sports science to me...
Laugh is childish, content professional.👍
Is he using a Yonex 105? Is the sweet spot actually bigger?
I recall this was a demo of the Yonex Vcore Pro 97. It's a great racquet and pretty forgiving!