@@florentdevier That is very true. Red and Arri cameras will become alot less popular when cinematographers start buying cameras instead of renting them.
@@TheShipMunksTV I don't think arri or red will be replaced anytime soon. Filmmakers will continue to rent arri and red until they stop releasing new cameras. The zcam will be popular for low-budget filmmakers, but for high-production, renting Red/arri will be far more relevant.
So far, I've only seen BGH1/BS1H, FX30, C70, and komodo in commercial production. Although, this could be because zcams were not widely used in my area. But even though I agree that the zcam may dominate the filmmaker market in a few years, and I'll probably buy one later.
Owned this camera for quite a few months now and I've thoroughly enjoyed it. Would definitely recommend spending the extra money to go for this over the Pocket. I find it a lot easier to work with in many different scenarios.
ThΞKnight design engineers from china can have any dream come true. directly from the popular dream to unfinished and full of bugs, ill-conceived and uncomfortable crafts. again and again
@@ZCAMCC how does the iphone or even the android phone connetion to the camera by cable for monitoring work? I thought phones do not have HDMI in and that's why we cannot use phones to monitor on other cameras.
@@oladee9212 16k is literally quadruple the size as 8k... the logical next step with technology would be 12k which still doesn't make sense with how few people can even view anything on 8k... not to mention the codec efficiency and computing on the camera to store all that data
@@andrewlheureux9743 I remember back when movies where starting to be shot in HD, that it would be every actors nightmare to have their pores and flaws displayed on giant screens. I therefore don't believe hollywood cares about more Ks or resolution for that matter, only final consumers.
BRAW is a format. Zlog is a color curve. You make big confusions here. It's like comparing orange and apples. BRAW equivalent iz ZRAW. Zlog equivalent is the Film curve in blackmagic cameras.
Elite Extremophile yeah I’d try actually using the camera, or looking at footage from people with capable hands before saying ridiculous stuff like this. Unusable? Not even close... 1080 240fps has some issues on E2, but 4K slow mo is brilliant on this thing.
Past RED USER, I have been using this cam since the start of the year - got to say I LOVE IT. Has been in extreme temps (both high and low), soaked in rain, covered in sand and mud and hase never missed a frame - not to mention the picture quality is superb! Z-CAM are the next best thing to hit the cinema market and shake-up the industry.
Same here. Sold my Red up a couple of years ago. Have an FS5 which I love, but this is something else. Is it good enough to make an independent film in your opinion
@@globalturfwar Definitely - Just know how to shoot with it (it likes to expose slightly to the right, especially in higher frame rates). We are producing 2+ movies with ours currently, couldn't be happier with the picture (as long as you slightly over-expose dark scenes, noise lines can be an issue.) We keen ours on the native ISO settings, 500 or 2500 - we never touch any other setting as these are best for noise.
6:29- Graphic typo? Video says max is 4k 150P, but your audio says 4k 160P. Looks like Z-Cam is really making a name for itself. Kinda wish BlackMagic made a similar screenless version of their Pocket Cinema Camera, and a separate external recorder with their awesome user interface, and higher peak brightness.
I have a few questions, What lens mount does it comes with? How many stops of dynamic range does this camera have officially and in real world scenario? what is it's native ISO? And most importantly what media does it record on?
Man Kai knows wtf he’s talking about. Truly a camera missing nothing! Kai I wish you talked a little about the ZRAW and how well it grades. Overall awesome video as always.
Was thinkin the same. Because itll be generating larger data rates, im guessing it might be lucky to push 4k120p. But thatd still be amazing. I was thinking about making some camera switch eventually and it sounds like itll be when the full frame version of this comes out
As a new about-to-go-pro filmmaker, it's encouraging to see the technical results that can be had for not too much money from a this-is-a-money-making tool!
Thanks for that test, I was expecting it from quite a long time. Just a little question : what LUT did you 'slightly' use on your rec709 ? pretty awesome in my opinion. Thanks again
Hey mate , how are you? good little vid, but one thing I might have missed or perhaps you have not mentioned, does the z cam comes with in-body stabilization, and if yes is it any good? also how does it perform AF wise and push focus? cheers bud!
How long does it take to connect to the phone (with wifi and without)? And what about audio and functionality? I'm not too into having to use a touch screen to adjust exposure and audio levels. Does this work as a run and gun camera, where one can quickly adjust exposure on the fly?
That's one of the voigtlander nokton series, either the 17.5 or 25. I have the 10.5 and 42.5 and though not optically perfect in a technical sense are amazing lenses. They are a joy to use (even if only mf).
Z-Cams: they are not particularly inexpensive for what you get from them, and the main issue are subject & camera movements. Due to their low processing power and rolling shutter design, they are basically jello-cams. Okay if the camera does not move and nothing in the frame moves either. But then you might as well be taking stills, right?
I was about to get a new monitor for video/photo shooting, which is the new Andycine A6 Plus, which costs around 230$, and I didn't know about the Shinobi monitor, but thanks to you I know about it now and I changed my mind about getting the Andycine monitor, I'll get the Atomos Shinobi instead! I know it has nothing to do with the review of the Z Cam but I just wanted to show gratitude. 😅 ✌🏼
Many trade-offs here. Form factor size is great, but is lost with attaching monitors. Pro Res, h.265 & coded vs BRAW? Probably not enough here to warrant replacing a BM4k, but great option if stating from scratch, and one doesn't mind doing the initial and subsequent rigging required.
What is the cost of outfitting this camera completed with viewfinder, cage, LED and the rest? Camera manufactures only give the base price as their low cost without a completed camera package cost.
Same family sensor, but a little bit more powerful internal processor. I find it to have very similar, if not slightly better, usable DR than the Pocket.
wait so the Iphone can take hdmi in over the usb c to lightning cable? Can you do this on any camera? at 4:08 Kai connects his iphone to the z cam by cable and it no longer looks like it's doing it through wifi If true I'll get an iphone
This is absolutely the Motorola 2way and Dreamcast system of today! Anyone remember those? Of course not. Internet connection and printer port... Someone was high af when they made this camera! “Hey we’ve got some parts left over from 1999. What should we do with them?” Zcam: “we’ll take them. We need to fill space on our camera anyway.”
Looks like they also have EF mount models. I'd seriously consider this if an e-mount version was available, although I can't think of anyone who makes a 3rd party e mount body.
@@OlivierOzoux As far as I know, the mount spec is available for people making e mount stuff, however, I suspect it is only the lens side which they let you make. Unless someone out there knows of someone else making an e mount.
Kai - you should place product advertising as an smalll banner (side overlay) on the site rather than talking about the sponsor - that way in years to come you can remove the the ads when the sponsor disappears All these videos with sponsor ads are becoming quite annoying (unfortunately) - perhaps quick sponsor ship advert - now heres a word from our sponsor (5 seconds - with banner which says Paid Advertisment) then you can cut these out later on so that these ads don't persist forever - just a suggestion
Yes but the quality will be no different than a Z6 or A7 because the tech isn’t based on cine its based on mirrorless. Remove the recording time limit from a Z6 and book FF z cam.
@@EinzMY Yeah, I know that. It's frustrating that they are releasing cameras that no one asked about. 90% of the people who are into video are waiting for SIII 4 years now. I have a6300, it's not bad but I want something better, full frame, IBIS, excellent ISO performance so I can control my DOF and crazy good autofocus. a7III is good but I'll be doing some crazy work that requires 240fps and that's why I'm thinking about this camera or gh5s but it's completely different system and I already have some Sony lenses. Let's wait like always...
Great finally a Cam with Printer connector. Prints my Videos frame by frame.
Don't forget the internet connection, so you can watch TH-cam on the in-built screen...oh wait
Subbotnik that’s for streaming.
Why use an external screen when you can print your video frame by frame live?
@@kstich yeah I was actually wondering what that was for. Thank you
But it doesn't have a telephone socket. I wish I could fax my videos straight to my friends :(
It's really nice to hear there are other people releasing decent budget video cameras and not just BM.
market is off to a BIG change in the years to come.
@@florentdevier That is very true. Red and Arri cameras will become alot less popular when cinematographers start buying cameras instead of renting them.
@@TheShipMunksTV I don't think arri or red will be replaced anytime soon. Filmmakers will continue to rent arri and red until they stop releasing new cameras. The zcam will be popular for low-budget filmmakers, but for high-production, renting Red/arri will be far more relevant.
So far, I've only seen BGH1/BS1H, FX30, C70, and komodo in commercial production. Although, this could be because zcams were not widely used in my area. But even though I agree that the zcam may dominate the filmmaker market in a few years, and I'll probably buy one later.
Owned this camera for quite a few months now and I've thoroughly enjoyed it. Would definitely recommend spending the extra money to go for this over the Pocket. I find it a lot easier to work with in many different scenarios.
Forrest Gibson why’s that ?
That’s a decent price point for that beast. That 150p was clean AF
It's a no brainer for small film studios. It's like a budget red. Also 4k 160p ?! Wireless monitor?! That almost sounds too good to be true...
ThΞKnight design engineers from china can have any dream come true. directly from the popular dream to unfinished and full of bugs, ill-conceived and uncomfortable crafts. again and again
You gotta see the footage, man. The 4k@160fps is amazing
@@ElemianSDS Don't think the opinion of a guy who's uploaded a video of him playing guitar recorded at 240p on a Nokia 3310 matters in any way.
GOPRO!! OMG
It works with Android phone by wired (via Ethernet port), you just need correct adapter:)
Nikita Garets Android app will support USB cable connection to Z CAM E2.
@@ZCAMCC Woah! That's awesome.
@@ZCAMCC how does the iphone or even the android phone connetion to the camera by cable for monitoring work? I thought phones do not have HDMI in and that's why we cannot use phones to monitor on other cameras.
@@cinialvespow1054 it works with the USB connection to the Z CAM E2.
@@ZCAMCC What is being sent through the usb connection? How comes other cameras don't do this?
is it basically as if you had hdmi over usb c?
I’m interested in the upcoming 8K model, should be interesting what comes from that and where that 8K sensor could turn up on the competition’s side!
I am waiting for the 16k model in the future
@@oladee9212 16k is literally quadruple the size as 8k... the logical next step with technology would be 12k which still doesn't make sense with how few people can even view anything on 8k... not to mention the codec efficiency and computing on the camera to store all that data
And then any decent DOP will filter it in order to look less sharp...
@@deniss.6205 Exactly. Either front FX filters, post processing, vintage/softer lenses, etc. Even 8k is extremely harsh on human faces/imperfections.
@@andrewlheureux9743 I remember back when movies where starting to be shot in HD, that it would be every actors nightmare to have their pores and flaws displayed on giant screens. I therefore don't believe hollywood cares about more Ks or resolution for that matter, only final consumers.
No doubt that the E2 is more user friendly in most ways than the BMPCC, but i much prefer BRAW over ZRAW
Yeah, the footage is unusable compared to bmpcc. Especially high framerate footage looks like shot on smartphone.
BRAW is a format. Zlog is a color curve. You make big confusions here.
It's like comparing orange and apples.
BRAW equivalent iz ZRAW.
Zlog equivalent is the Film curve in blackmagic cameras.
Elite Extremophile yeah I’d try actually using the camera, or looking at footage from people with capable hands before saying ridiculous stuff like this. Unusable? Not even close... 1080 240fps has some issues on E2, but 4K slow mo is brilliant on this thing.
Past RED USER, I have been using this cam since the start of the year - got to say I LOVE IT.
Has been in extreme temps (both high and low), soaked in rain, covered in sand and mud and hase never missed a frame - not to mention the picture quality is superb!
Z-CAM are the next best thing to hit the cinema market and shake-up the industry.
Same here. Sold my Red up a couple of years ago. Have an FS5 which I love, but this is something else. Is it good enough to make an independent film in your opinion
@@globalturfwar Definitely - Just know how to shoot with it (it likes to expose slightly to the right, especially in higher frame rates). We are producing 2+ movies with ours currently, couldn't be happier with the picture (as long as you slightly over-expose dark scenes, noise lines can be an issue.) We keen ours on the native ISO settings, 500 or 2500 - we never touch any other setting as these are best for noise.
In the exact same boat. Been extremely happy with my experience.
Two vids in a day? Must be Christmas!
6:29- Graphic typo? Video says max is 4k 150P, but your audio says 4k 160P. Looks like Z-Cam is really making a name for itself. Kinda wish BlackMagic made a similar screenless version of their Pocket Cinema Camera, and a separate external recorder with their awesome user interface, and higher peak brightness.
Do you mean the bm micro cinema camera?
160fps at UHD 2.4:1, and 150fps at 4K DCI 2.4:1.
@@Lofyne And don't forget 120fps at full 4KDCI or UHD How many cameras can do that?
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG
I have a few questions, What lens mount does it comes with? How many stops of dynamic range does this camera have officially and in real world scenario? what is it's native ISO? And most importantly what media does it record on?
MFT, 13 or 16 in WDR, native at 500 and 2500, and CFast or external SSD through USB-C.
Man Kai knows wtf he’s talking about. Truly a camera missing nothing! Kai I wish you talked a little about the ZRAW and how well it grades. Overall awesome video as always.
@Zero Challenge this comment literally talks about the RAW output on the ZCam...
@Zero Challenge Good thing ZCam's own encoder is very high quality.
Zero Challenge I guess you can’t have it all at $2,000 lol!
Is that the Philip Bloom Bridge?
Not only does this camera look great, but so does his $8k blue and black Rolex GMT master, shining in the sun. Your watch game is always tight Kai!
"smooth, like butter on ice"
-KaiW
Waiting on the Full Frame 6k
2k is over rated
Zcam is super underrated. They make great cameras for a really fair price.
A full frame version of this would make me squishy. I can think of no better gimbal cam for run and gun.
Was thinkin the same. Because itll be generating larger data rates, im guessing it might be lucky to push 4k120p. But thatd still be amazing. I was thinking about making some camera switch eventually and it sounds like itll be when the full frame version of this comes out
I was so impress about this camera that your genuine Rolex caught my attention 4:16
The 1" version of this with global shutter could probably pair well with super 16 glass.
As a new about-to-go-pro filmmaker, it's encouraging to see the technical results that can be had for not too much money from a this-is-a-money-making tool!
Kai you have reviewed every dope camera known to TH-cam
what do you think about what is going on in Hong Kong
This is not a political vblog mate.
Everything is political today..
@@miamimercenary which is why you should cherish the things which aren't.
Lok made a video about what is going on in HK and Kai commented there. Maybe check that video out for his opinion.
@@juandenz2008 Lok's video was beautiful too
Thanks for that test, I was expecting it from quite a long time. Just a little question : what LUT did you 'slightly' use on your rec709 ? pretty awesome in my opinion. Thanks again
Looks sick. What lens mount is this using?
They have cameras for MFT, Canon EOS and PL mount. This model is MFT.
Every time I hear kai’s voice I am pleasantly surprised....I’m sure I’m not the only oneZ
Great😊... A quick question FS7 +Fujinon vs Zcam + Fujinon... which setup will you prefer for a filmset?
Hey mate , how are you? good little vid, but one thing I might have missed or perhaps you have not mentioned, does the z cam comes with in-body stabilization, and if yes is it any good? also how does it perform AF wise and push focus? cheers bud!
victor munhoz hey, it doesn’t have I.S. And AF is quite basic. I’d use the AF mainly just to lock focus before hitting record.
Kai W thanks bud!
I love your shirt with the little cars or it looks like busses on it. Where is the link in the description to get one? 🤣
Chose the E2 over the bmpcc
Must be unhappy with the choise. Image looks it was shot on smartphone.
Yup same here. E2 all the way. The imagery is gorgeous out of camera. Take a look around fellas, there are some great examples out there.
I think you need to correct 160P to 160Fps 🤔in Title
the com is a standard that allow you tu put a multiple wire cable splitter with sdi and other things, it's a common port for broadcast camera
Where have I heard that before you said it the flaps are hard to open lol
How long does it take to connect to the phone (with wifi and without)? And what about audio and functionality? I'm not too into having to use a touch screen to adjust exposure and audio levels. Does this work as a run and gun camera, where one can quickly adjust exposure on the fly?
What lens was on that beast? It looks nice!
That's one of the voigtlander nokton series, either the 17.5 or 25. I have the 10.5 and 42.5 and though not optically perfect in a technical sense are amazing lenses. They are a joy to use (even if only mf).
Dustin Fullington nice! I’ll try and rent them out to try, they look super sexy :)
Z-Cams: they are not particularly inexpensive for what you get from them, and the main issue are subject & camera movements. Due to their low processing power and rolling shutter design, they are basically jello-cams. Okay if the camera does not move and nothing in the frame moves either. But then you might as well be taking stills, right?
I was about to get a new monitor for video/photo shooting, which is the new Andycine A6 Plus, which costs around 230$, and I didn't know about the Shinobi monitor, but thanks to you I know about it now and I changed my mind about getting the Andycine monitor, I'll get the Atomos Shinobi instead!
I know it has nothing to do with the review of the Z Cam but I just wanted to show gratitude. 😅 ✌🏼
Many trade-offs here. Form factor size is great, but is lost with attaching monitors. Pro Res, h.265 & coded vs BRAW? Probably not enough here to warrant replacing a BM4k, but great option if stating from scratch, and one doesn't mind doing the initial and subsequent rigging required.
Would love to know your thoughts on using this for handheld shooting? Stability, lack of IBIS compared to GH5
What is the cost of outfitting this camera completed with viewfinder, cage, LED and the rest? Camera manufactures only give the base price as their low cost without a completed camera package cost.
Not bad for MFT -- great selection of MFT lenses (and lens adapters) -- and 240fps in 1080 (h.265) -- cool! Buy me one! :-)
What's the dynamic range like, compared to the BM?
Close enough.
Same family sensor, but a little bit more powerful internal processor. I find it to have very similar, if not slightly better, usable DR than the Pocket.
Kai Should have reviews it with ZRAW as well
Do a review of kinefinity camera's!
Cool little cam. Impressive what we are getting these days. I'll stick with BM for now though. :)
希望新一代的机器加强再加强自动对焦，vlog这个市场其实很是有需求。出外拍点东西，突然自己又想说些什么的时候，e2的对焦会很汗颜啊。难道还得多带一台黑卡？
wait so the Iphone can take hdmi in over the usb c to lightning cable? Can you do this on any camera?
at 4:08 Kai connects his iphone to the z cam by cable and it no longer looks like it's doing it through wifi
If true I'll get an iphone
This is really cool! I glad to see things like this on the market.
Please do a video on the difference between the Z cam and the Sigma FP
As usual Lok is ahead of you
This is absolutely the Motorola 2way and Dreamcast system of today! Anyone remember those? Of course not. Internet connection and printer port... Someone was high af when they made this camera! “Hey we’ve got some parts left over from 1999. What should we do with them?” Zcam: “we’ll take them. We need to fill space on our camera anyway.”
But the BMD 6K is braw, not pro res and doesn't need aftermarket products or reliance on app updates to continue working.
Was going for a Bmpcc but Zcam is tempting me more and more!
What's about Auto Focus?
Yes, I will wait until next year when they start going full-tilt competition.
Excited for the future of budget cine cameras.
Looks like they also have EF mount models. I'd seriously consider this if an e-mount version was available, although I can't think of anyone who makes a 3rd party e mount body.
Hmm, you think it's because Sony is not licensing it out? maybe?
@@OlivierOzoux As far as I know, the mount spec is available for people making e mount stuff, however, I suspect it is only the lens side which they let you make. Unless someone out there knows of someone else making an e mount.
I've never heard of zcam, but I would totally buy this. The A7S III better be really good to compete with this
Saramonic needs low cut filter. Probably firmware can fix this.
You are amazing! We love watching your work!
can you also make a video on zcam e2c camera
Kai. Love your talk speed (triple time!)
I have the same camera but I need to know with lens can I use for music video shooting without any adapter
I'd love to see you do a comparison of this and the BMPCC 6K
TheLane0102 you would have to compare to Z cam 6k version cam
Wow!!! I need to review one myself now! Amazing!
Definitely a camera to consider. Will you do a video on the SL3 with its 10-bit video?
I’d love to see how much the full frame model will cost, when compared to whenever Sony release the A7Siii
SuperDuprTech for the 6 k €4500
SuperDuprTech, you mean "if ever."
Question with the monitor can you attach it to the side of the zcam? I’m thinking of getting one and the weebill lab s .
I’m terribly sorry but what what the portable monitor that you were using, I couldn’t find it?
TheLegendHR atomos shinobi
I was really waiting for this. Thanks
Under the flaps eh?
Nice camera, but I also love your shirt! Where can I get one?
is it light enough for a gimbal like the ronin-s?
Awesome video thanks for showing the camera 👍🙏
does the viltrox ef m2ii keep the canon full frame lenses full frame?
What is the iphone mount you are using there?
I reckon the lack of internal RAW is maybe a possible drawback for a cine cam. But seriously that is a very minor thing
Make a Z-Cam E2C review with the new ZRAW firmware update PLEASE
HI, did you test the continuous focus?
I'm watching because Sirui made a 50mm anamorphic lens for it!
Amazing gear! thanks for the review
Yall go check out the Z cam e1
special order only right now
but super underrated for its price and size
And can u put an ronin sc on it with lense ?
how can I connect an iPhone to a sony alpha camera like this camera without using the playmemories app.
Kai - you should place product advertising as an smalll banner (side overlay) on the site rather than talking about the sponsor - that way in years to come you can remove the the ads when the sponsor disappears
All these videos with sponsor ads are becoming quite annoying (unfortunately) - perhaps quick sponsor ship advert - now heres a word from our sponsor (5 seconds - with banner which says Paid Advertisment) then you can cut these out later on so that these ads don't persist forever - just a suggestion
How long does the battery last on the Z Cam?
LOVE IT! SOLD, this is my next camera. Got my sexy A7s for low light, this will be my daylight camera. :)
With that secondary native ISO at 2500 the E2 actually is pretty killer in low light as well.
Can't wait for Potato Jet's review as well :)
the camera was available in b&h a year ago, but all vloggers start to review it only 1 month ago. Why?
They getting paid to review
What kind of lens mount is it
Micro 4/3
Cheeky little Carbon Peak Design Tripod 😍
Any image stabilization? Thanks.
Yes but the quality will be no different than a Z6 or A7 because the tech isn’t based on cine its based on mirrorless. Remove the recording time limit from a Z6 and book FF z cam.
does the Z Cam work on the Ronin S or SC?
What about audio or at least scratch audio?
If a7sIII won't come out I'll get it since this cam is a beast!
a9ii in october...it is now very likely that we'll probably see a7siii released in Q1 2020 at the earliest
@@EinzMY Yeah, I know that. It's frustrating that they are releasing cameras that no one asked about. 90% of the people who are into video are waiting for SIII 4 years now. I have a6300, it's not bad but I want something better, full frame, IBIS, excellent ISO performance so I can control my DOF and crazy good autofocus. a7III is good but I'll be doing some crazy work that requires 240fps and that's why I'm thinking about this camera or gh5s but it's completely different system and I already have some Sony lenses. Let's wait like always...
That Batman Rolex kai wearing tho... Life must be good.
Stephen Gomez or be from Hong Kong
can you use the 70-200 f2.8 sony on this?
Then sir bmpc or z cam ?