What If The Franco Prussian War Never Happened? | Alternate History

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  • @MonsieurDean
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    • @minutemanchan7232
      @minutemanchan7232 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      that aint discord

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if a time-travel gave Ancient Persia, under Emperor Cyrus the Great, an Industrial Revolution?

    • @Labor_Jones
      @Labor_Jones 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      IF.... then Donald Trumps Grandfather would never have moved to the USA.

    • @samsattler2856
      @samsattler2856 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@minutemanchan7232 l0

  • @marselo5332
    @marselo5332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +636

    What if Algeria had been assimilated into France proper? Pretty outlandish, but I think an interesting and most likely tragic concept.

    • @axolot9097
      @axolot9097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      Algeria was quite assimilated being considered directly under the Métropole rule. However, the divide between the white pieds-noirs and the native population was to big to mend...

    • @paytonthornberry1382
      @paytonthornberry1382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @Typed Scroll Wow, you're so edgy and based.

    • @charlesuzozie5747
      @charlesuzozie5747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @mendaix I'd say the major cities on the coast would have a majority white or mixed race. 100% human though.

    • @haleffect9011
      @haleffect9011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      A little less arrogance on the part of the French could have made that a reality

    • @theArab__
      @theArab__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      mendaix congrats, you just offended 1800 million people. I’m not even angry, that’s impressive

  • @skiteufr
    @skiteufr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    France was the dominant political and military power of Europe and arguably the world from Louis XIV who laid down the foundations of the power of France to Napoleon who exploited it with new reforms and measures.
    In the 19th century, after Napoleon's downfall, it did not have the same strenght as Britain took the hegemony and Prussia was growing rapidely, but France still did it job of European arbiter : it defeated the Netherlands to support Belgium, it defeated the Ottomans to support Greece, defeated Austria to support the Italians, and defeated Russia to support the Ottomans and the european balance of power. Before the loss to Prussia in 1870, the only setback was in Mexico, who was rather a political defeat rather than a military one

  • @babingus7991
    @babingus7991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Can you do What if italy unified during the renaissance

    • @SirApelpie
      @SirApelpie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      oh yes please!

    • @themoreyouknow7418
      @themoreyouknow7418 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Interesting concept. The backer of the maritime republics, the industry and arts of places like Florence, Milan, etc, the agrarian strength of Naples/Sicily, and so on.

  • @clarkstrange2142
    @clarkstrange2142 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I’d love a part two to this, to see an alternate “Great War” where Prussia, Austria, and Russia all join as unlikely allies against the French, British, Spanish, Italians, Bavarians, and their eastern allies

    • @chheinrich8486
      @chheinrich8486 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bavarians against austrians! Not a Chance

    • @sp4391
      @sp4391 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chheinrich8486 it might be a bit more plausible than what you would think. Bavaria tried numerous times to establish itself as a third German power independent of Austria and Prussia. Unfortunately, by the time they actually got around to doing it it was all too little too late.

  • @stevencooper4422
    @stevencooper4422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    WW1 would've had a lot less fuel to the flame...

    • @apollo1694
      @apollo1694 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ELSAß LOTHRINGEN

    • @theodorkorner1497
      @theodorkorner1497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Or maybe a different WW1 between France, Britain, Bavaria and Prussia, Russia, Austria?

    • @fountainchristain
      @fountainchristain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theodorkorner1497 so one side wins the land and the other wins the sea.

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@apollo1694 *Alsace-Lorraine it is

    • @aldihamzaraj4795
      @aldihamzaraj4795 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theodorkorner1497 No Eastern front for the Germans (Prussia, Austria and the smaller Kingdoms)? *Jes*

  • @jwil4286
    @jwil4286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    “Bavaria wanted to unite with its smaller neighbors, without Prussia or Austria ruling over them”
    So, Bavaria wanted something like modern-day Germany, where the only bigger German states than it are either excluded from Germany (referring to Austria) or dead (referring to Prussia).

  • @thatboikaiser2790
    @thatboikaiser2790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Attempt 2: What if Isabella of Castille didn't choose Ferdinand of Aragon, instead choosing either Alfonso XII of Portugal or Charles of Valois?

    • @dsxa918
      @dsxa918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a huge suggestion, Thotboi!

    • @kidsrock91
      @kidsrock91 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes! Instead of Spain of eastern Iberia, Spain of western Iberia.

    • @vicrai578
      @vicrai578 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If Spain wouldn't accept Christopher Colombus's request, we could see an Aragonese America.

  • @UwU-xk5cx
    @UwU-xk5cx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Napoleon III had great relations with austria, they even put franz josephs brother, Maximilian of Habsburg as the emperor of the french influenced mexican empire (which they may have had a chance to still maintain if they didnt fought the war against the prussians)

    • @voiceofreason2674
      @voiceofreason2674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a travesty that the Mexicans killed Maximillian he would’ve been a great leader

  • @ivanthegreat2.070
    @ivanthegreat2.070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    I'm sorry for bothering you, but here goes.
    I think you should do a three part series on what would happen if the moon was habitable, like the world war one stalemate series. One video would be nice and to the point, but a series would have more detail.

    • @caesaraugustus7990
      @caesaraugustus7990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I really like the idea of this

    • @ivanthegreat2.070
      @ivanthegreat2.070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@caesaraugustus7990 thank you.

    • @alexanderroberts730
      @alexanderroberts730 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a great idea 🌕

    • @ivanthegreat2.070
      @ivanthegreat2.070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alexanderroberts730 wow, this is more positive feedback than the last time I suggested this

    • @ivanthegreat2.070
      @ivanthegreat2.070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@caesaraugustus7990 what do you think would happen?

  • @ottovonjizzmark9864
    @ottovonjizzmark9864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Looking at the flag, I thought this was some sort of Prussian Estonia timeline.

    • @f_f_f_8142
      @f_f_f_8142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It is actually more similar to the old flag of the saar region which had black-white-blue stripes combining the colors of Prussia and Bavaria.

    • @Swerzy-
      @Swerzy- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thought it was Bavaria if it unfixed Germany or south Germany

  • @enriquehartmann8642
    @enriquehartmann8642 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I probably would not have been born. My grandfather's grandfather left Lorraine after the F-P war because he allegedly was not a fan of the change of management.

  • @monarchblue4280
    @monarchblue4280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Attempt 2: What if Austria United with Bavaria because of their shared Germanic Heritage instead of Hungary forming the Austro-Bavarian empire.

    • @ivanthegreat2.070
      @ivanthegreat2.070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Hungary was Austrian, they just freed them under a personal union. Austria never conquered Bavaria. In the end, it would be Austria Hungary, but thicker.

    • @lukasosterloher9105
      @lukasosterloher9105 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @emmie Kinda late, I know but the best chance for a strong Bavaria was actually in the early 18th century where Bavaria almost inherited Spain but sadly Josef Ferdinand died at the age of 6 which lead to the War of the Spanish Succession.

    • @Mark-xh8md
      @Mark-xh8md ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@emmie3123- Wait.... Danish Bavaria? 🤔

  • @soopy6667
    @soopy6667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    4:16 “ A new government took power in France which *refused* *to* *surrender* ”
    Dear god...

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    What if the Netherlands Antilles didn’t dissolve

    • @daikolirae155
      @daikolirae155 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the best timeline

    • @liamwilson5670
      @liamwilson5670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What if Glorious North Korea lost the Korean War??

    • @theArab__
      @theArab__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Liam Wilson impossible timeline

    • @decade0240
      @decade0240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What if Tiananmen Square actually happened?

    • @piyo744
      @piyo744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@decade0240 What exactly would happen? Nothing happened, anyways.

  • @last.atlantean
    @last.atlantean 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Hmm yes, French month

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    What if the Union of Brittany and France didn't come to fruition

    • @abeillebretonne4301
      @abeillebretonne4301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would be happy

    • @Perririri
      @Perririri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *France Spears* sings _Toxic_

    • @joj4096
      @joj4096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i see you everywhere. from gordon Ramsay videos , to history channels

  • @johnniebee4328
    @johnniebee4328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "Italy failing to become a reliable ally"

  • @Ілля-ь6щ
    @Ілля-ь6щ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Hello mister Z. Found your channel recently and I really like the quality of content you make (taking in consideration different peoples and events, carefully choosing the checkpoints, where the history could turn). Special thanks for the maps, they really help to understand the situation better.
    Let me propose you some uncommon "what if" scenario.
    What if Polish-Lithuanian-Muscovite Commonwealth successfully formed in 1574 under the rule of tsar Ivan IV "the terrible"?
    Couldn't find any videos about this on TH-cam. I hope you will find this theme interesting and worth making a video.

    • @GanjaEnthusiast322
      @GanjaEnthusiast322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out his video on what if Poland was a superpower

  • @minutemanchan7232
    @minutemanchan7232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I can’t see how a marriage would unite two bitter rivals. For much of the middle ages and till the late 1800s, France and Britain despised one another. Because of the rise of Germany being a threat to the British empire the brits allied with France. Realistically they’d stay out of any future wars unless it’d shift the balance of power
    Also Henry the 8th married some Spanish royal yet Aragon and Britain didn't unite

    • @lordbonney9779
      @lordbonney9779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Meh. Napoleon III wanted the marriage to ensure British support, the Brits saw it as useful as they’d be able to continue their “let’s not look at Europe” phase.
      While they were rivals, both saw this engagement as an advantage over mutual enemies/ disliked powers.

    • @minutemanchan7232
      @minutemanchan7232 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordbonney9779 Perhaps an alliance could be secured but not a full on union

    • @lordbonney9779
      @lordbonney9779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@minutemanchan7232 not a union of countries no, but alliances through marriage were very common with monarchies, just look at Spain or Austria. I believe it’s be a marriage to achieve a common goal: staying out of each other’s way.

    • @minutemanchan7232
      @minutemanchan7232 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordbonney9779 What would unite these enemies? France would still be seen as the strongest European military

    • @lordbonney9779
      @lordbonney9779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@minutemanchan7232 a marriage. Napoleon III wanted to marry his son to Queen Victoria’s daughter.
      This marriage could possibly result in a much greater Franco-British friendship, becoming similar the USA-UK relations. This could build up both trade chances and interesting, new colonial opportunities for both nations, however I can see the UK taking a more senior role in this partnership.

  • @edgelord8337
    @edgelord8337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is quite the interesting video.
    I have no idea why TH-cam doesn't want me to comment because I haven't broke any guidelines but keep up the great videos!

  • @EmperorCaligula_EC
    @EmperorCaligula_EC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    But Bismarck had a plan.

  • @jangottschalk1718
    @jangottschalk1718 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well it wasn't the aim of Bismarck to challenge France it was his aim to unite Germany. And as French demands about the thrown in Spain became unbearable - the Prussian king - a Protestant and leader of the house of Hohenzollern, refused the thrown in the name of his distant catholic relative from southern Germany. But was again confronted with a impossible request from the French ambassador to renounce the thrown forever, which he couldn't. The letter from The king to Bismarck was then reduced to a mere cancellation which sounded rude.
    This was then the reason for the nationalistic press to go to war with Prussia. The French Emperor could have refused to declare war.

  • @lukebaker5135
    @lukebaker5135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Hey look it’s a comment that’s doesn’t have the words what if in it....
    wait

  • @crafe2305
    @crafe2305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You assume Bismarck wouldn't attempt to make an alliance with A-H, Russia or UK during that delayed Franco-Prussian war?

  • @emmetcoyne6436
    @emmetcoyne6436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Victorian era alternate history is getting me hyped for Victoria 3

  • @decantabriaball938
    @decantabriaball938 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great video!

  • @Seb420-u7s
    @Seb420-u7s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Forgot to say that Napoleon the third had been given the nickname "the friend of the Romanians" because of his actions that led to the first romanian unification called the Small Unification, the Great Unification was in 1918.

  • @rokball4892
    @rokball4892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh! Oh! Ohh!!!
    I just got an idea!
    I’d like you to make a What if France won the Franco-Prussian War!!!

    • @NorseGraphic
      @NorseGraphic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if a mouse beat up a cat, and it isn't the 'Tom and Jerry'-cartoon?

  • @sirwence9949
    @sirwence9949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic! Yet another a scenario often pondered and seldom spoken on; to this is say Moar! part 2 please lol ^-^

  • @anesimamovic8112
    @anesimamovic8112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This would be sick because when ww1 should come around so 1914 napoleon the 4th son would be the leader meaning he King George the 5th Nicolas the 2nd and Kaiser Wilhelm and then the French Emperor would all be cousins meaning all great power leaders of Europe except Austria would be related 😳

    • @jandros8744
      @jandros8744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The king of Greece during that time would also be related and tsar Ferdinand aswell

  • @cf69
    @cf69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I disagree. Without the victory over France the German unity would have had never been established. France interest in keeping southern German states apart from Prussia was huge and more over these states themselves were notably happy with their independence.

  • @zionmolina3039
    @zionmolina3039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What if the Bourbon Dynasty was restored around WW2?

  • @FinianFhomhair
    @FinianFhomhair 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Bavaria, a lot of people still hold a (more or lese) friendly grudge/rivalry against northern german people. "Saupreiss" (literally meaning sow-prussian) is a common insult to people who are not from the bavarian part of Germany and/or to people, who are over properly (this comes from the distain to prussian culture, which favors order and obedience about everything else), even tough today there isn't much difference between Bavarians and other Germans in relation to that.

    • @Kunumbah1
      @Kunumbah1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FinianFhomhair That’s really interesting

  • @MMMMMek
    @MMMMMek ปีที่แล้ว

    This was honestly quite interesting! Quite!

  • @strategicomela7783
    @strategicomela7783 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video!

  • @ccityplanner1217
    @ccityplanner1217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Countries throughout European history can be categorised into countries allied with France, & countries not allied with France:
    Blue category:
    • France
    • Denmark
    • Scotland (pre-Union)
    • Britain (since 19th century)
    • post-Habsburg Spain
    • Poland
    Red category:
    • Habsburgs
    • Austria-Hungary
    • Prussia
    • Germany
    • Burgundian State
    • Sweden
    • England (pre-Union)
    • Britain (until 19th century)
    Then there's Russia, which keeps switching sides.

  • @leonartu3756
    @leonartu3756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if the Romans were like china? Instead of dividing and dividing, Europe unites and Most of the time Europe is controlled by 2 or 3 big nations

  • @Readingclub1903
    @Readingclub1903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mr. Z you should make a video on what if Patrick Buchanan won the presidential election of 1992?

  • @gobanito
    @gobanito ปีที่แล้ว +1

    France doesn't need to force a Prussian unconditional surrender, driving back the Prussians from French soil and inflicting heavy losses on them would have been enough to discredit the Prussians among the other German states especially in the eyes of Bavaria.

  • @justinhammer3196
    @justinhammer3196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hope Napoleon IV could have mistresses.

  • @danielboone8256
    @danielboone8256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So basically an early cold war (might go hot with WWI) isolated to Europe. Interesting

  • @virtem7686
    @virtem7686 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What if the Iberia's Celts remain indepence until the meddle age?
    What if the Tartessos instead of be a trade "nation" been a expansionist one?
    What if the Straight Province become in a country in the XIX?

  • @clydesteele2925
    @clydesteele2925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Second Attempt: What if, somehow, Pinochet never rose to power in Chile during the Cold War?

    • @1998kwab
      @1998kwab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Like what if the US kept themselves to themselves and didn't try and overturn South American governments every 5 minutes

    • @clydesteele2925
      @clydesteele2925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1998kwab Exactly

    • @canadianmormarchist
      @canadianmormarchist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Come with me I have a ticket for a free helicopter ride for you

    • @theArab__
      @theArab__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      canadian monarchist *oh no...*

    • @theArab__
      @theArab__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Clyde Steele Chile would be a much greater country. Certainly better off economically

  • @maxwelljw8400
    @maxwelljw8400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What if George Rockwell came to power, but it lead to a civil war?

  • @patrickyoung2479
    @patrickyoung2479 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What if the German invaders targeted and overwhelmed Byzantium instead of western Rome this leaving western Rome as the sole Roman Empire and creating many different Germanic kingdoms in the East, the Levant and North Africa?

    • @chheinrich8486
      @chheinrich8486 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, netter thoght about that, the east was better defened but it couldnt have survived forever under constant raids

  • @decantabriaball938
    @decantabriaball938 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you do a video on what if Prussia had lost the Austro Prussian war of 1866

  • @williammacvittie4520
    @williammacvittie4520 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sir, excellent video. Have you considered doing a video on a hypothetical Anglo - American war in 1896? Robert Crowley did a nice essay on this topic in his What Ifs of American History entitling it "The Wolf and the Whale." More or less US being dominant on land (invading Canada) and the British Empire being supreme on the sea (bombarding the coast). Could have potentially driven America into the Central Power in WWI and a host of other possibilities. I appreciate your creativity.

  • @phlbrt9977
    @phlbrt9977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:50 why and what is that noise

  • @michaelwhary7697
    @michaelwhary7697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Notice how a lot of these althist channels don't take America into consideration. I would certainly place the us as a wildcard at minimum.

  • @Rtgaming-je2zs
    @Rtgaming-je2zs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    What’s with all the timelines dominated by France recently? You are giving this anglo good scare

    • @skiteufr
      @skiteufr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      France is a historican giant. A lot of historical events turn around France or are heavily impacted by this country.
      A famous writer once said "Paris sneezes, Europe catch a cold"

    • @chillaxo9863
      @chillaxo9863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@skiteufr Or if Moscow coughs Europe burns

    • @Rtgaming-je2zs
      @Rtgaming-je2zs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      King of Kings & Ruler of Rulers if China coughs we all get locked inside watching TH-cam!

    • @chillaxo9863
      @chillaxo9863 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @mendaix ich mags auch

    • @gutsjoestar7450
      @gutsjoestar7450 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chillaxo9863 if mosocow burn like in 1812
      europe get more powerful
      if one church of paris burn like "notre damme cathedrale"
      the whole world is in PLS

  • @Deailon
    @Deailon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At last a video a historian can upvote ;)

  • @kaihinton6623
    @kaihinton6623 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ik this will be drowned out by all the other suggestions, but what about if America had rose first? I.E. Horses in America, Native Americans discover the wheel, and wheat is naturally abundant in the Americas.
    What this could possibly lead to might be a sunset invasion like scenario, where the Aztecs and Missisipians discover Africa and Europe and attempt to colonise the primitive Europe following the fall of Rome.

  • @levelofstress9915
    @levelofstress9915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    7:42 Jealous Girlfriend?

  • @theodoretex1068
    @theodoretex1068 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if Prussian king Frederick William IV accepted the imperial crown in 1849 at the national assembly in Frankfurt am Main? And Germany was united a few decades early.

  • @RealClutchMcGee
    @RealClutchMcGee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What if Bavaria united Germany?

  • @TheFoxonTheRadio
    @TheFoxonTheRadio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Attempt 1:What if Bismarck never came to power?

  • @indicimbecile6992
    @indicimbecile6992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if Spain successfully reconquered Mexico in the 1820s?

  • @thorpeaaron1110
    @thorpeaaron1110 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Monsieur Z love your channel can you do what if Operation Downfall happened

  • @SirApelpie
    @SirApelpie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Why does each and every one of those videos end with a Germany not united :( Alas, can't we just have peace and unity...

    • @borp0164
      @borp0164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because germany uniting was a true miracle, any number of factors could change that

    • @Kenfren
      @Kenfren 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because he's absolutely based

  • @Stoopidxoolin
    @Stoopidxoolin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what if the Sykes-Picot agreement was never signed?

  • @butterball33
    @butterball33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if Lincoln was impeached for suspending writ of Habeus Corpus?

  • @joshmorton7283
    @joshmorton7283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What if the Great Game escalated
    What if Sino-Soviet border conflict escalated

  • @KevinDavis338
    @KevinDavis338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How about if Prussia and Austria united?

  • @apexblodhunder
    @apexblodhunder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasn't kaiser wilhem II the grandson of queen victoria? If we go with the reasoning for franco-british axis, you can say the same about the prussian-british relations

  • @IronDragon-2143
    @IronDragon-2143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if Vikings defeated Alfred the Great and conquered all of Britain?

  • @FCBLukas
    @FCBLukas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    According to me Prussia will fight another war with Austria gain southern states and ally with Russia Bulgaria and Italy
    France ally with Austria, Britain and the Ottomans(Cause they hated Russia since 1600s) and British Benelux and Iberia remain neutral as Wilhelm's wife was also a British princess and now France also have a British princess so that's neutral.

  • @mostlytrue3150
    @mostlytrue3150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    France Bavaria and Austria " if the three where to come together a victory could almost be counted upon", like Prussia hadn't beat the three most powerful countries in Europe the French, Russians, and Austria at the same time during the seven years war??

    • @lukasosterloher9105
      @lukasosterloher9105 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The French didnt fully commit during the seven years war as they also fought the Brits during that time and Prussia would have been crushed if Russia didnt pull out of the war because Peter III. was a fanboy of Frederick the Great.

  • @morsecode980
    @morsecode980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if the Bar Confederation successfully established an anti-Russia league consisting of themselves, Austria, France, the Ottomans, and Sweden against Russia, the pro-Stanisław II Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, and possibly Prussia in 1772?
    What if Napoleon III was against Italian unification?
    What if the Shimabara Rebellion succeeded in 17th Century Japan, turning it into a united, Catholic nation?

  • @zionmolina3039
    @zionmolina3039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder why all the recent videos are related to France somehow?

    • @Kenfren
      @Kenfren 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because France is the greatest nation on earth, and will regain her strength soon

  • @vikingen244
    @vikingen244 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if Gran Colombia survived?

  • @abdokorib8898
    @abdokorib8898 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are so great but onlyyy one thing that annoys me the most
    The thumbnails flags, I just feel like they aren't meant to be like that

  • @mentallag4199
    @mentallag4199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the Franco Prussian War never happened, I would cry

  • @oliverstianhugaas7493
    @oliverstianhugaas7493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From the creator of many *What If's* comes a new and exciting scenario, What if?: *Professor Moriarty created the first world war in 1865?*

    • @Perririri
      @Perririri 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this related to the two TNG episodes, _Elementary, Dear Data _*_and_*_ Ship in a Bottle?_

  • @eleftheriospatarakis5577
    @eleftheriospatarakis5577 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you find those flags?

  • @Nealetony
    @Nealetony 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really the only thing I hate about this channel is "that where I'll leave it for now!" 🤬
    Love the channel though 🥰

  • @swisscheese9540
    @swisscheese9540 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have anything to do with Alternate History Hub?

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, but write "collab with Monsieur Z" in his comment section, I'm sure he'll love it.

  • @ffls775
    @ffls775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:50 that hurts..

  • @neilc.8368
    @neilc.8368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if Italy never unified? Austria would’ve took Venetia and may have won the Austro-Prussian war (insert Austria wins video here), would the Papal States still exist? Would France and Spain claim land on the Italian peninsula?

    • @lordbonney9779
      @lordbonney9779 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe that an in unified Italy could become like Germany. A Cold War between two powers. In Italy it’s most likely be France and Austria fighting for dominance.
      For Italy to never unify, Austria would need to win this fight, perhaps re-establishing control over Tuscany and the Two Sicilies, effectively locking Piedmont-Sardinia out of the rest of Italy.
      This powerful Austria would probably either win the Brothers War, or lose it but not badly, maintaining a control of Bavaria, Baden and Wurttemberg as they are very similar in culture and religion.
      This may lead to countries like Bulgaria seeking Austrian alliance, building a possible bridge to a Russo-Austrian alliance if Russia is willing to forgive the Austrian betrayal in the Crimean war.
      This possible Russo-Austrian alliance would most likely become a neutral block in Europe, expanding into Germany, Italy and the Balkans, and staying out of the major wars to come.

  • @janhecker1175
    @janhecker1175 ปีที่แล้ว

    He really tried to sneak megali idea Greece into this one again

  • @richardthefox3412
    @richardthefox3412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if the Korean empire survived?

  • @darthnerd4432
    @darthnerd4432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A new Prussian Age
    Yep, about 70 years

  • @pythonmentor
    @pythonmentor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bavaria independent would have definitely been better, rather than being under the Prussian/German boot

    • @Erwin1293-
      @Erwin1293- ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FlaviusConstantinus306 around 5% a maximum of 10%. However staying in Germany is better for them since they use a loophole to cheat our election system and bring more funds to them illegally every election (despite them already being the richest state due to everyone except them paying the communist east to catch up, while they smuggle funds towards their state infrastructure and industry)

  • @RiggsBF
    @RiggsBF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What if South Africa kept ts nuclear weapons.

    • @Coalzzz
      @Coalzzz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      probably not much lol

    • @Perririri
      @Perririri 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if Ukraine did?

  • @EvilParagon4
    @EvilParagon4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    To all headphone users, be careful of the word "Decline".
    :)

  • @joshuamitchell5018
    @joshuamitchell5018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if the confederate states and Taiping heavenly kingdom had...and stay with me now...a magic portal appear connecting the two via the Yangtze & Mississippi Rivers in 1861 (that being the earliest point both polities coexisted irl in time if not space. )
    A liiiiitle bit outside the scope of normal timeline deviation but the exercise I think stacks up into some wildly out there alternate power balances.

  • @benhooper4080
    @benhooper4080 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if Austria declared war on Prussia during the Franco-Prussian War?

  • @redzeitgeist854
    @redzeitgeist854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if Maximillian Robespierre never overthrown?

  • @itsaps9880
    @itsaps9880 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the vid, but you showed the wrong Prussian King. Wilhelm 1st was ruling at that time but you showed Friedrich Wilhelm 4th

  • @tmutant
    @tmutant 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if Austria outmanuvered Bismarck and unified the German-speaking peoples of the former Holy Roman Empire? Oh, you did that 2 years ago. Nevermind.

  • @vin55100
    @vin55100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was even that relationship, witch made the prussian english alliance more of a thing, as prussia at that time had 0 colonies and no ships, where as France whent full on creating their second colonial empire, even gunning for mexico (just to loose). France and Uk would not have happend. Bismarck also did plan ahead, he waited for the right time to strike, but the prussians where ready the mobilisation won all major wars for them, cannot imagine having a different outcome here, the french generals where not modern enough in that regard. The son would have been worse, a warmonger, going into africa wasting resources. The thing is also that at that point France had the lowest birth rate among all great powers, the germans where having more people, meaning more soldiers more economy.The nothern state had all the coal, the south was poor, especially the Bavarians under Ludwig the second where in a financial crisis because of his buildings. The people in those countries would have never fought against another german state at that point as unification was something all of them wanted. The french would have likley started the war over Luxemburg if not over the depeche, with the difference being that we would have no Luxemburg now xd.

  • @mrluigi1337
    @mrluigi1337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if Hamlin became president after Lincoln instead of Johnson?

  • @biap401
    @biap401 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What If Austria Never Got Anchlussed before WW2

  • @tritonewt3344
    @tritonewt3344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if Finland won the "Heimosodat"/kinship wars?
    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimosodat

  • @Corsaire_media_official
    @Corsaire_media_official 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if the cold war ended with both powers collapsing?

  • @aganib4506
    @aganib4506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if the Philippines became a Japanese Commonwealth?

  • @icebobk6702
    @icebobk6702 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can u do “What if Britain declared war on the USSR in 1939 after they invaded Poland

  • @valdete74
    @valdete74 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you pls do what if the Brazilian monarchy was restored

  • @wefalck
    @wefalck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alternate history - one day this, the next day that? A gather we are talking about an alternative history?

  • @Rct3master44
    @Rct3master44 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Virgin Prussia vs CHAD Bavaria.