Stoked all you reviewers are killing the resale value for this car. It is an excellent car for me and I imagine 99% of people buying it. Amazing the same EVangelizers shunning ICErs for overhyping range anxiety are knocking this car. Only thing I fault Toyota for on this and the BZ is slow DC charge curve. Everything else is spot on for most people. As one who owns and loves the everyday ease of a Chevy Bolt, which is fine for me with its “lack luster” highway efficiency and poor DC charging performance, I look forward to scoring a perfectly fine Lexus EV in about a year for only a little more than I paid for my Bolt. Thank you!
@@MBergyman I leased a Solterra a couple months ago. Basically the same car with a Subaru badge. Total of payments and buyout including the tax I rolled in is $32000; got about $16000 off. I want people to keep bashing it so the resale value drops and I can hopefully negotiate the buyout price at the end!
I used to be the same way about range. To me the highest range won. If you remove range from the equation, this is one of the best cars out there. For 99% of my needs, this car is more than adequate. Not sure what is going on with the car tested, but I just finished charging mine last night and woke up with 226 miles of range this morning, which has been typical for me. If I drive with the climate control on, it naturally reduces the range, but the odd thing is, when I turn the climate control off after using it for a while, the range estimate goes back up as if I barely used it. I have a level 2 charger and charge maybe once a week. I would not take this, or any other EV on a long road trip. Until solid state batteries get here, that's best left to gas and/or hybrid cars. If you buy this car, Lexus will give you a free loaner for up to 30 days over 3 years. If you want a car that is quick, quiet, comfortable, luxurious, reliable (should be), loaded with tech and fun to drive, this car checks those boxes.
@@motorsport2k The Lexus Reserve program gives a person who buys the RZ a free loaner for up to 30 days over the course of three years. It is unlimited mileage. The only condition is the car cannot be taken off road or to Mexico. Otherwise you can take it anywhere in the continental United States. I'm not familiar with the program outside the US.
I have the Solterra which is the cousin of this vehicle, and it’s rated at 227 miles, yet I’m averaging 4.6mi/kW which given a 64 kWh battery comes to a range of 294 miles. 3:36 I’m guessing part of the reason you came in so low on the range is that you may be enjoying that “gutsy level of acceleration”.
Been living with a 2024 300e and gotta say it was well worth the purchase after factoring in a $15k lease-cash deal. Doing without a second motor and the smaller wheels is perfectly fine, but the inclusion of the HUD in the electronics package upgrade was absolutely necessary and I've come to expect a HUD on newer luxury vehicles.
I understand the 196 is a deal breaker. It was for me as well in the beginning. The Lexus Reserve program actually pushed me into a purchase. The strange thing was that when I first purchased the car and charged it up, it was showing less than 196 miles of available range. That range number kept increasing the more I drove it. Last week it showed 226 miles of range. Still would not take this, or any other EV on a long trip (until solid state batteries get here). For my driving the car works and is a lot of fun to drive.
Lexus says 196 with the large wheels. I'm getting 226. I love my car as most of my driving is around town and I have an RX350 as a backup. Plus the Lexus Reserve program give me a free loaner car with unlimited mileage for up to 30 days over three years.
Toyota purposely wanted to put out a horrible EV to show everyone "See! EVs don't work/sell!" Not surprising when theyre the ones lobbying to slow down EV adoption.
Wouldn't buy it, as all EVs drop like a rock in resale. However, the 11,000 Lexus rebate PLUS the 7,500 Federal rebate made the lease a no-brainer. Perfect for running around town with a Chargepoint L2 charger in my garage. I live in a cold climate, and get around 170 in range. But no issue as I never do more than that in a day.
It is said that Toyota is working on a Solid State battery that can achieve 600-800 miles of range that should be out in a couple of years. These Hybrids seem to be a beta-test, until that battery module is ready.
It seems like this thing is underperforming for a luxury EV SUV and the criticism is more than warranted if the thing can't bring the goods in the range department at a moderate temp. We have a nearly 4 year old Audi etron and the thing can still do over 200 highway miles at 40F with 30,000 miles on it. That is exceptional considering the range for the car new is around 225 miles. Audi also loses way less range at colder temps that pretty much every other EV. That is a huge factor if you live up north. I think 200 miles of range in winter is my bare minimum range requirement personally.
Just saw 1 & it looked Nice but Only 196 Miles at $67,500. if you got the $$ & it's your 2nd or 3rd Car or you just don't worry about or hv to Drive that Much then go for it!
That was going to be my choice as well, until I test drove the RZ450E. Plus the NX 450h+ requires premium gas. I guess that's not a deal killer since you can probably use it on full electric mode for most everything around town.
The bare minimum range I'd accept in an EV is 300 miles. That's why I own a Tesla, even though I loved my Toyota Corolla. I'd like to buy an EV SUV from either Toyota or Lexus, but their extremely limited range and lack of NACS for public charging leaves this as sadly not an option for me yet.
The 2024 Lexus Leaf? I see these in the slow lane or not keeping up with the flow of traffic in the middle lanes on the highway. '17's (if they would fit) would do wonders for range.
Not an option because of the range. Unpractical for me. Not even close in terms of range. This car doesn’t need a review. Should be left in the showroom where it belongs 😅😮
Now that I’m seeing some deals on this I’ve been looking back at the reviews again. More and more I get the feeling that Toyota purposely scuttled this car. The range is simply a nonstarter for the price. I’m looking at used cars for $25,000 less and still can’t quite rationalize it. Why does it have bad range? It has a small battery compared to the competitors. That’s a decision. One that shows that Toyota didn’t care about this car. The instrument that looks like it belongs in an economy car is another tipoff.
@RF-it7uv I did get interested in the RZ as I saw the prices for them used with very low miles go down to a level that became very attractive but I was still turned off by the range and I couldn’t find any review as positive as the experience you have detailed. I can still see used RZ’s in Edmunds but they are not in my area anymore. I’d be tempted to test drive one, I’ve test driven most of the cars you listed including the Model Y, which I both test drove and had a short drive in a friend’s Y. Unfortunately there is no Lexus in my town so that’s a bit of a drawback. How do you like that head up display controlled by the steering wheel controls? I remember seeing that in reviews thinking it could be very cool or kind of annoying as it seems to give you more options, but seems like it could be a bit awkward compared to just using regular buttons and the instrument cluster. I have a Rav4 Prime which is very good and I’m a Toyota fan. I’d like to see them come out with an EV where I got the impression that they are all in.
This car only does 99 mph. There is a reason why an electric motor makes peak power and the torque drops right off at the same time they have no acceleration at speed.
EVs are absolute con with ridiculous range. I had one of them and very stressful when the battery needed charging. Charging stations also need an app. Imagine needing an app for each company. At best, it takes 30 to 45 mins to charge compared to petrol or literally 5 mins. Sick to your petrol car until EV industry matures and gives a better range and infrastructure
Stoked all you reviewers are killing the resale value for this car. It is an excellent car for me and I imagine 99% of people buying it. Amazing the same EVangelizers shunning ICErs for overhyping range anxiety are knocking this car. Only thing I fault Toyota for on this and the BZ is slow DC charge curve. Everything else is spot on for most people. As one who owns and loves the everyday ease of a Chevy Bolt, which is fine for me with its “lack luster” highway efficiency and poor DC charging performance, I look forward to scoring a perfectly fine Lexus EV in about a year for only a little more than I paid for my Bolt. Thank you!
You were right.
This car was the highest increased sales by percentages for Lexus in a record breaking H1.
@@MBergyman I leased a Solterra a couple months ago. Basically the same car with a Subaru badge. Total of payments and buyout including the tax I rolled in is $32000; got about $16000 off. I want people to keep bashing it so the resale value drops and I can hopefully negotiate the buyout price at the end!
I used to be the same way about range. To me the highest range won. If you remove range from the equation, this is one of the best cars out there. For 99% of my needs, this car is more than adequate. Not sure what is going on with the car tested, but I just finished charging mine last night and woke up with 226 miles of range this morning, which has been typical for me. If I drive with the climate control on, it naturally reduces the range, but the odd thing is, when I turn the climate control off after using it for a while, the range estimate goes back up as if I barely used it. I have a level 2 charger and charge maybe once a week. I would not take this, or any other EV on a long road trip. Until solid state batteries get here, that's best left to gas and/or hybrid cars. If you buy this car, Lexus will give you a free loaner for up to 30 days over 3 years. If you want a car that is quick, quiet, comfortable, luxurious, reliable (should be), loaded with tech and fun to drive, this car checks those boxes.
What do u mean by a loaner for 30 days over 3 years? Do you mean a loaner to travel long distances? Or a loaner is there's maintenence/repairs/issues
@RF-it7uv thanks for the story it was truly insightful. More people need to see this. You should repost as a comment instead of just a reply
@@motorsport2k The Lexus Reserve program gives a person who buys the RZ a free loaner for up to 30 days over the course of three years. It is unlimited mileage. The only condition is the car cannot be taken off road or to Mexico. Otherwise you can take it anywhere in the continental United States. I'm not familiar with the program outside the US.
I have the Solterra which is the cousin of this vehicle, and it’s rated at 227 miles, yet I’m averaging 4.6mi/kW which given a 64 kWh battery comes to a range of 294 miles. 3:36 I’m guessing part of the reason you came in so low on the range is that you may be enjoying that “gutsy level of acceleration”.
Been living with a 2024 300e and gotta say it was well worth the purchase after factoring in a $15k lease-cash deal. Doing without a second motor and the smaller wheels is perfectly fine, but the inclusion of the HUD in the electronics package upgrade was absolutely necessary and I've come to expect a HUD on newer luxury vehicles.
Hey Steve. Only 196 miles, at that price point? Wth 😮 😳
that 196 is a deal breaker for me
I understand the 196 is a deal breaker. It was for me as well in the beginning. The Lexus Reserve program actually pushed me into a purchase. The strange thing was that when I first purchased the car and charged it up, it was showing less than 196 miles of available range. That range number kept increasing the more I drove it. Last week it showed 226 miles of range. Still would not take this, or any other EV on a long trip (until solid state batteries get here). For my driving the car works and is a lot of fun to drive.
Great video, the UK only got the rz300e as of yesterday
Sorry to hear that
@@stevehammes it is just interesting how manufacturers delay certain markets :) PS love your videos! Been a fan for years
u didn t open back and front bumper ? why?
Pls confirm, the range of This thing only charges up to 190 Miles?
Lexus says 196 with the large wheels. I'm getting 226. I love my car as most of my driving is around town and I have an RX350 as a backup. Plus the Lexus Reserve program give me a free loaner car with unlimited mileage for up to 30 days over three years.
A pretty good EV, outside of range
A pretty horrible value, compared to a similar sized and powered Model Y
Toyota purposely wanted to put out a horrible EV to show everyone "See! EVs don't work/sell!" Not surprising when theyre the ones lobbying to slow down EV adoption.
Wouldn't buy it, as all EVs drop like a rock in resale. However, the 11,000 Lexus rebate PLUS the 7,500 Federal rebate made the lease a no-brainer. Perfect for running around town with a Chargepoint L2 charger in my garage. I live in a cold climate, and get around 170 in range. But no issue as I never do more than that in a day.
It is said that Toyota is working on a Solid State battery that can achieve 600-800 miles of range that should be out in a couple of years.
These Hybrids seem to be a beta-test, until that battery module is ready.
The RZ is not a hybrid. It's an EV.
It seems like this thing is underperforming for a luxury EV SUV and the criticism is more than warranted if the thing can't bring the goods in the range department at a moderate temp. We have a nearly 4 year old Audi etron and the thing can still do over 200 highway miles at 40F with 30,000 miles on it. That is exceptional considering the range for the car new is around 225 miles. Audi also loses way less range at colder temps that pretty much every other EV. That is a huge factor if you live up north. I think 200 miles of range in winter is my bare minimum range requirement personally.
To your point, so much right and so much potential if the range weren't unacceptable. The beeping when in reverse would drive me nuts! 😅
Totally!
@@stevehammes, I had my beeping disabled by the dealership. No issue.
Just saw 1 & it looked Nice but Only 196 Miles at $67,500. if you got the $$ & it's your 2nd or 3rd Car or you just don't worry about or hv to Drive that Much then go for it!
Use 2023 cost $45k 😊
@@Midwest.. That is a fantastic deal for a car with a $68K sticker price. The car is well worth it, I have had mie since Dec'23 and LOVE it.
I’d probably go with the NX 450h+ over this. Similar price point but WAY better mileage.
Which car does have that
That was going to be my choice as well, until I test drove the RZ450E. Plus the NX 450h+ requires premium gas. I guess that's not a deal killer since you can probably use it on full electric mode for most everything around town.
@@robertwarren20 How much range do you usually get with it? And do you have your own charger?
this one is priced for 80,000€ in Italy. why is it so cheap in america?
The bare minimum range I'd accept in an EV is 300 miles. That's why I own a Tesla, even though I loved my Toyota Corolla. I'd like to buy an EV SUV from either Toyota or Lexus, but their extremely limited range and lack of NACS for public charging leaves this as sadly not an option for me yet.
The 2024 Lexus Leaf? I see these in the slow lane or not keeping up with the flow of traffic in the middle lanes on the highway. '17's (if they would fit) would do wonders for range.
Good car overall, but hampered severely by its small 64 kWh usable battery and corresponding low EV range.
190 mile range?!!!
lexus bz4x....lol.... not worth spending this much money
Lexus/toyota knows hybrids and plug ins are better than full ev… but I get the miles being wack on this but who cares, I ain’t buying it
If this was the only EV option then yes.
Not an option because of the range. Unpractical for me. Not even close in terms of range. This car doesn’t need a review. Should be left in the showroom where it belongs 😅😮
$67k 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Now that I’m seeing some deals on this I’ve been looking back at the reviews again. More and more I get the feeling that Toyota purposely scuttled this car. The range is simply a nonstarter for the price. I’m looking at used cars for $25,000 less and still can’t quite rationalize it. Why does it have bad range? It has a small battery compared to the competitors. That’s a decision. One that shows that Toyota didn’t care about this car. The instrument that looks like it belongs in an economy car is another tipoff.
@RF-it7uv I did get interested in the RZ as I saw the prices for them used with very low miles go down to a level that became very attractive but I was still turned off by the range and I couldn’t find any review as positive as the experience you have detailed. I can still see used RZ’s in Edmunds but they are not in my area anymore. I’d be tempted to test drive one, I’ve test driven most of the cars you listed including the Model Y, which I both test drove and had a short drive in a friend’s Y. Unfortunately there is no Lexus in my town so that’s a bit of a drawback. How do you like that head up display controlled by the steering wheel controls? I remember seeing that in reviews thinking it could be very cool or kind of annoying as it seems to give you more options, but seems like it could be a bit awkward compared to just using regular buttons and the instrument cluster. I have a Rav4 Prime which is very good and I’m a Toyota fan. I’d like to see them come out with an EV where I got the impression that they are all in.
Tried it. Verdict: Way too expensive and not even good
Host is very whiney and needs to do research on how to use the features.
Commenter is whiney and needs to get a life.
Toyota needs European designers
Then it would just be another European looking car.
@@edrcozonoking but better my friend, but better 😂
This car only does 99 mph. There is a reason why an electric motor makes peak power and the torque drops right off at the same time they have no acceleration at speed.
EVs are absolute con with ridiculous range. I had one of them and very stressful when the battery needed charging. Charging stations also need an app. Imagine needing an app for each company. At best, it takes 30 to 45 mins to charge compared to petrol or literally 5 mins. Sick to your petrol car until EV industry matures and gives a better range and infrastructure