Hats off to bobby for keeping a positive tone after the whole nasty transformation experience. It’s like assembling a ship in a bottle. Since when did these things become more pain than fun?
This exactly. When I started collecting MP transformers, I watched Bobby's videos to learn the transformations. Now I watch his videos to learn which figures I NEVER want to transform. The stylized/toon emphasis over the last few years has made these transformations overly complex and fiddly. Especially some of these newer FT pieces. But even the main line is guilty as well.
He looks so good in robot mode, but personally I hated the transformation. Just gave up in the end trying to get the roof down properly on the car. After the issues with untabbing the lower arms, the legs and then forcing the arms together below the car so the back can line up, the roof was a bridge too far.
Why does this look _so_ much more difficult to transform than NewAge's Cliffjumper!? That figure is as big as one of this one's legs, has just as many transformation steps, and is an absolute breeze. What mystical secrets do NewAge know about joint tolerances that no one else seems to!? EDIT: And it has an ab crunch!!!
Personally I like the head sculpt and think it looks better than the Hellion but that transformation looks frustrating and I will definitely break it with my gorilla like hands. Also, I do not like the car mode, looks to "chibi" to me. I'll stick with the Hellion.
That robot mode is gold, but the transformation isn't worth the trouble and although the chibi-car is cartoon accurate, I prefer the real car that XTB uses
Good review. I would suggest that you should probably wait until the Takara comes out so you can do only versus. I feel like a versus against the XTB one really isn't a good one as they go for totally different aesthetics. I would suggest the MMC version and then when the Takara one comes out as it's due with all leak photos...look forward to that video.
Bobby, thanks for doing this review. After watching Paik, TMReviews, and your video, I was able to avoid some of the frustrating spots and actually like this transformation more than MMC's version of Cliffjumper. Thank you for your sacrifice.
Cliffjumper seems to be one of those characters that the head sculpt is difficult to pull off. I recall people getting X-Transbots to change their Cliffjumper (Toro) head sculpt after the first one they showed off caused a stink. That Fans Toys transformation though...oof. Never a fan of transformations that basically explode the robot mode and try to squeeze everything together into a tinier form.
I agree about the face - I think it's that the forehead doesn't sit inside the brow of the helmet like I'd like. Obviously, I'm not the target market - Fanstoys fans will buy it because they buy everything Fanstoys and nothing else so have no choice but to buy it; non-FT fans have moved on from MP because all the rival products are dead so have no choice but to not buy it. But, for purely academic discussion, if you're going with the super-deformed alt. mode, you definitely shouldn't need faux parts, in my opinion and the painted rear window panel not matching the translucents is a big fail.
I think the issue with the face mould is to do with the spacing from the vertical lines (which track down from the eyes) and the lateral aspects of the face being too thin.
MAN, for a split second I thought you were gonna smash that thing! 😶😆 That transformation is a beast, and although he definitely looks better it's the same story with me as always: on an even playing field (where all were released at once) I'd buy this in a heartbeat. But things as they are, XTB Toro stays in the collection. Solid review as always, thanks! 😎👍
Watching you do this made me laugh because that is how it went for me. 1st side piece popped off, second one didn't. 1st ankle was too tight and popped off instead of pivoting. The biggest difference was the sliders. I had to loosen the screws for my sliders to get the arms to fold around on the chest.
Limited articulation that is not related to the transformation so there’s no reason other then to save some money in the parts count department and all the associated expenses such as mold and assembly. As usual, for the money Fans Toys are charging they shouldn’t be cutting back on the articulation. It should have more range in the neck, some butterfly joints, double jointed elbows, ab crunch and better range on the feet. The transformation seems a bit fiddle but the end result looks good in both modes. I agree that the alt mode. Back looks a bit blank and I can’t understand why they used different plastic colors fir the windshields. Thanks for the review Mr. Skullface
Hey Bobby - in your opinion what's the worst Fans Toys figure to transform? I always thought Kup was the worst, but watching this makes me not want to attempt mine.
I think the head articulation is a, 'thing from that episode' so he can lay flat and use the sniper rifle without having to have an open ball peg on the back of the head. Yes the view from the front is janky with the full range used. But, to me, that is not how the articulation is intended to be seen.
Dude looks like Blossom.....oh man..lmfao.....that came outta nowhere....hilarious. I agree about the head sculpt...I think the eyes are a bit too far apart.
@@insomniavfx thats exactly why....porsche have publicly stated "We dont want our products associated with an alien robot war" and while Takara might have a cj in the works, until Porsche give them the required licience to use the alt mode they will NEVER release it due to copyright infringmant
I've never been as frustrated watching a video as I was for this. Great figure, great detail of transformation, but WOW. That would have me speaking in tongues.
I like this version of Cliffjumper, but that transformation was less than ideal. I only had issues with the back of the alt mode and they’re the same issues everyone seems to have. The transformation is easier going back to bot mode for sure!!
I think this begs the question (perhaps for a Sit Down Saturday?): Is it realistic to assume you can have a clean, toon-accurate bot AND alt mode without having a complicated, fiddly, agonizing transformation? Based on this and some other figures, I would say for the most part, no.
Man, sad to hear that. I wish the red was metallic too. I'm still going to pick it up but its a lot less cut and dried over which offering i'll keep now.
I think the problem with the face is the eyes touching the side of the helmet. There should be a little grey between the eyes and helmet. The way it is here in Parkour, his face looks stretched out.
And then both of my front bumper pins popped right out and fell in my carpet. I found one and got the pin back in, but I have no idea where the other one went. Over 100 dollar toy and it has pins falling out!? Jeez man.
great video, but this is a NO for me. I think that some companies forget that these are toys. And you should enjoy the experience, beautiful figure but in order to get from bot to vehicle is a pian, NO NO NO
I have this guy on order but he hasn't arrived yet. Watching reviews the robot mode looks pretty good, not as good as some other figures but definitely better than MP-45 while still capturing those toon proportions. The transformation looks like trash though, it is a return to Fanstoys Fiddly and IMO that is a big step backwards compared to most of their recent stuff. Ball oegs on double hinges? Assemblies if parts just swinging free with loving points until you manipulate a half dozen panels around them to lock them down? It all seems a return to bad form and not fun or intuitive at all.
“This dude looks like Blossom” LOL! This folks is the direct result of your pining for toon accuracy for a decade. You wanted it! Now you got it! These difficult transformations and extra panels are what it takes to make a complex figure look bland. Not to mention it drives the price up due to the extra engineering it takes. Congratulations! I swear to god I wish the fu*kin toon movement would die. Why not have a cheaper line that does that.? Why put that in a “masterpiece” figure. The Masterpiece line started as a real world take on the characters and was designed to look good in BOTH modes. It’s a bastardization of something caught between CHUG and MP these days. Sad stuff. Great review as always Skully!
While it does feel like an eye-gougingly rough experience for you transforming it, I try to be forgiving of it, realizing that fitting all that robot into a little car like that has got to be some tough engineering. Maybe I'm being too forgiving? In any case, If I did get this guy I don't think I would ever transform him anyway haha.
Mann!! Not gonna lie! That was a creepy!! Joker like laugh!! Please keep it coming!! At one point I almost thought Bobby was going to throw the figure against Backdrop!! That would of been Amazing forsure!! I definitely can Identify with this!!..If Bobby would of Threw it!!...I would of said!! ...No! No! That thing Deserved it!! 👏😲
After not picking up the last 7 or 8 FTs releases, I decided to get Par Course...and boy after 2 transformation, the DBL arm Swivel connection is a mess. Either the screw is backing itself out slowly or it no longer holds tension to the body. Because the outer shoulder is tighter than the inner connection, the inner connection becomes the weak join. Please lube the outer shoulder before messing around with the figure, once the inner shoulder screw is loose, it's down hill from there.
Why buy transforming toys if you're not going to transform them? What's the point? Why not just buy non-transforming ones instead and not have any kibble issues and the like?
Love that FT is doing all the other bots. But, when are they going to finish the Menasor and Superion? I betting never. What a stain in their reputation imo.
People give Bobby grief about his transformations, but this is easily the worst Fanstoys transformation I've ever experienced. Way too many hinges, ball pegs and joints that all have to come together just perfectly. Took me almost an hour to get this vehicle mode. He's never coming out of that again. It was a hellacious transformation @bobbyskullface
Robot Mode Check Alt Car Mode Check Transformation to get there? Sarcastic Comment Loading I think the Face is fine, it's the Best Face out there so far imo. FTs Cliffjumper is heads and shoulders about TTs Bumblebee. The car is cute, and looks accurate. Bot mode, is Excellent. The split is a tolerance issue and the different Window Blues is not good. Overall, FT did raise the Bar, as long as you DO NOT include the Transformation. In your case BS, not tear your hair out, but rip your Mask off. Good Review.
Hats off to bobby for keeping a positive tone after the whole nasty transformation experience. It’s like assembling a ship in a bottle. Since when did these things become more pain than fun?
This exactly. When I started collecting MP transformers, I watched Bobby's videos to learn the transformations. Now I watch his videos to learn which figures I NEVER want to transform. The stylized/toon emphasis over the last few years has made these transformations overly complex and fiddly. Especially some of these newer FT pieces. But even the main line is guilty as well.
Feel like the part flying off when the table was pounded in frustration at 21:24 is the icing on the cake.
Hahaha holy shit. That was hilarious.
That was a good laugh. Don't worry, I'm gonna get one myself because it still looks good, and I survived Jazz too.
I thought transforming robots into cars and back again was supposed to be fun.
Thanks for taking us through that complicated transformation.
“This dude looks like Blossom” is my new favourite Transformers review observation 🤣🤖👍
lol I bet a lot of people didn't get that reference.
He looks so good in robot mode, but personally I hated the transformation. Just gave up in the end trying to get the roof down properly on the car. After the issues with untabbing the lower arms, the legs and then forcing the arms together below the car so the back can line up, the roof was a bridge too far.
That’s why it’s good to buy 2 Parkours: one permanently in robot mode and one permanently in alt-mode.
@@39Hundred Not for $90+ a pop!! He's in bot mode (as sandlot said) FOR EVEEERRR!!!! 😂😂
Why does this look _so_ much more difficult to transform than NewAge's Cliffjumper!? That figure is as big as one of this one's legs, has just as many transformation steps, and is an absolute breeze. What mystical secrets do NewAge know about joint tolerances that no one else seems to!?
EDIT: And it has an ab crunch!!!
Cause he’s mistransforming it half the time lol. Watch TMReviews for a good transformation.
@@tysonbrown9144 ya he doesn’t seem to have the patience to learn how to transform Fan Toys properly.
Personally I like the head sculpt and think it looks better than the Hellion but that transformation looks frustrating and I will definitely break it with my gorilla like hands. Also, I do not like the car mode, looks to "chibi" to me. I'll stick with the Hellion.
I would like to take a moment to pay my respects to the sanity Bobby sacrificed to this transformation. Thank you for your sacrifice bobby.
He's actually shaking with rage this time.
That robot mode is gold, but the transformation isn't worth the trouble and although the chibi-car is cartoon accurate, I prefer the real car that XTB uses
I “LOL” at your struggles in these bad transformations. Probably because it’s so relatable. Thanks again for all the great content🔥
watching that transformation makes me want to sell my toys
To quote Bobby....."the juice isnt worth the squeeze"
Re: complicated but still satisfying.... Generation Toys IDW prime. Possibly the most satisfying transforming toy I own.
Good review. I would suggest that you should probably wait until the Takara comes out so you can do only versus. I feel like a versus against the XTB one really isn't a good one as they go for totally different aesthetics. I would suggest the MMC version and then when the Takara one comes out as it's due with all leak photos...look forward to that video.
Hate seeing you struggle with these transformations, Bobby- we've all been there! thanks as always for taking one for the team!
Bobby, thanks for doing this review. After watching Paik, TMReviews, and your video, I was able to avoid some of the frustrating spots and actually like this transformation more than MMC's version of Cliffjumper. Thank you for your sacrifice.
I was considering getting this guy for the alt mode cuz I kinda dig it. After watching this maybe I'll just get Newage minibots
Damn laughed so hard at the Blossom comparison 🤣🤣🤣 damn bobby that was a 10/10 loved it
Cliffjumper seems to be one of those characters that the head sculpt is difficult to pull off.
I recall people getting X-Transbots to change their Cliffjumper (Toro) head sculpt after the first one they showed off caused a stink.
That Fans Toys transformation though...oof. Never a fan of transformations that basically explode the robot mode and try to squeeze everything together into a tinier form.
At the 21:20 mark, I almost died when the little piece of the rear bumper popped off 🤣😂🤣
He almost rage quit. You've failed me Bobby. Lol
I agree about the face - I think it's that the forehead doesn't sit inside the brow of the helmet like I'd like.
Obviously, I'm not the target market - Fanstoys fans will buy it because they buy everything Fanstoys and nothing else so have no choice but to buy it; non-FT fans have moved on from MP because all the rival products are dead so have no choice but to not buy it. But, for purely academic discussion, if you're going with the super-deformed alt. mode, you definitely shouldn't need faux parts, in my opinion and the painted rear window panel not matching the translucents is a big fail.
Right hand elbow, loose on every figure, mine, yours, literally everyone I’ve spoken to. Pins instead of screws were a dumb idea.
My left elbow is loose
I think the issue with the face mould is to do with the spacing from the vertical lines (which track down from the eyes) and the lateral aspects of the face being too thin.
i love how you boosted the color saturation at the end in order to "polish the turd"
Nice catch. Should’ve had that metal red paint. I see the same issues with upcoming Blaster too.
"This dude looks like Blossom" is not a line I ever expected to hear in a Transformers review.
MAN, for a split second I thought you were gonna smash that thing! 😶😆 That transformation is a beast, and although he definitely looks better it's the same story with me as always: on an even playing field (where all were released at once) I'd buy this in a heartbeat. But things as they are, XTB Toro stays in the collection. Solid review as always, thanks! 😎👍
That’s be hilarious!!!! Brings out the mallet! 🤣
The godamn little rear bumper pieces that are on that ball joing popped right off like 5 times on me while trying to get the back side into place.
The ASMR or whatever in this video had me writhing in discomfort sitting in my car on my lunch break today. Thank you for your service.
Watching you do this made me laugh because that is how it went for me. 1st side piece popped off, second one didn't. 1st ankle was too tight and popped off instead of pivoting. The biggest difference was the sliders. I had to loosen the screws for my sliders to get the arms to fold around on the chest.
Limited articulation that is not related to the transformation so there’s no reason other then to save some money in the parts count department and all the associated expenses such as mold and assembly. As usual, for the money Fans Toys are charging they shouldn’t be cutting back on the articulation. It should have more range in the neck, some butterfly joints, double jointed elbows, ab crunch and better range on the feet.
The transformation seems a bit fiddle but the end result looks good in both modes. I agree that the alt mode. Back looks a bit blank and I can’t understand why they used different plastic colors fir the windshields.
Thanks for the review Mr. Skullface
Ooof. Nice looking, but I think I'll stay with my MMC version. Thanks for the review!
I started laughing, my wife asked why- after I explained it, maybe a minute later, Bobby starts laughing in the video and says “you gotta laugh”. 🤣
That was an incredibly beautiful transformation
I counted the sighs.....it's a record. Best of luck to anyone making a stop motion video with this fig.
After seeing the side by side I really like this robot mode but I love the vehicle mode of my xtransbots so I’m probably gonna end up having both
Hats off for keeping your COOL. I most likely will never transform mine to car form
I swear, some companies make these transformations complicated just to do it.
Hey Bobby - in your opinion what's the worst Fans Toys figure to transform? I always thought Kup was the worst, but watching this makes me not want to attempt mine.
Kup was definitely a rough one. Jazz is up there for me too
I think the head articulation is a, 'thing from that episode' so he can lay flat and use the sniper rifle without having to have an open ball peg on the back of the head. Yes the view from the front is janky with the full range used. But, to me, that is not how the articulation is intended to be seen.
Dude looks like Blossom.....oh man..lmfao.....that came outta nowhere....hilarious.
I agree about the head sculpt...I think the eyes are a bit too far apart.
You took it way back with that blossom comment🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think this definitely counts as the one time Parkour Lewis did lose. Pears for your thumbs.
Great review. Dear Lord, I am taking out of the box and placing in a stoic pose & slowly back away.
He comes in vehicle mode! lol
I had no problems or difficulties transforming him
That transformation looked like as much fun as a root canal… I think Fanstoys trying to beat Takara to market has made them cut a few corners
Could it be an older designed figure that there just now releasing ?
Its got nothing to do with beating Takara to market....why do you think Takara have NEVER done an offical MP jazz and cj?
@@jaws666 Porsche licensing. However they now have a Cliffy in the works.
@@insomniavfx thats exactly why....porsche have publicly stated "We dont want our products associated with an alien robot war" and while Takara might have a cj in the works, until Porsche give them the required licience to use the alt mode they will NEVER release it due to copyright infringmant
@@jaws666 aha. What about the officially licenced studio series Mirage?
I've never been as frustrated watching a video as I was for this. Great figure, great detail of transformation, but WOW. That would have me speaking in tongues.
That time when the transformation made bobby pound the table. 21:25
I like this version of Cliffjumper, but that transformation was less than ideal. I only had issues with the back of the alt mode and they’re the same issues everyone seems to have. The transformation is easier going back to bot mode for sure!!
The reason the head goes up like that and the reverse ab crunch is so you can have him laying in his stomach with his canon. From that one episode
I personally still feel like MMC hellion is the best one. Full interior and vehicle mode transformation that is enjoyable decent looking robot
that transformation was harrowing
That looks anxiety inducing so bad
Would love to see a versus with MMC CJ
I am surprised to see that there is not an xtb vs mmc in Bobby's history to extrapolate the data from.
This is some old school BadCube style fiddly.
I think this begs the question (perhaps for a Sit Down Saturday?): Is it realistic to assume you can have a clean, toon-accurate bot AND alt mode without having a complicated, fiddly, agonizing transformation? Based on this and some other figures, I would say for the most part, no.
Man, sad to hear that. I wish the red was metallic too. I'm still going to pick it up but its a lot less cut and dried over which offering i'll keep now.
What guy doesn't like to flip it back and forth?......so to speak
A Blossom reference, Jack. Lol.
He said Blossom! 😂😂😂 I totally forgot about that show. Good one Bobby. Good one.
Is a nightmare to transform, is better to leave it in robot mode for display
Thank you sir
Honestly, it's amazing they crammed that body into that alt mode. But I'll definitely never buy it because I know I'll break it lol
I knew you would hate the leg transformation
3:34 hahahahahahaha the nose of Blossom.
I like the anger. It is real.
It looks good, but what a train wreck of a transformation. It is a miracle that you didn't break something.
Anyone else out there still waiting for your FT-Jazz to arrive from BBTS???
Well I am and it's freaking frustrating.
Way to pull thru champ!
I think the problem with the face is the eyes touching the side of the helmet. There should be a little grey between the eyes and helmet. The way it is here in Parkour, his face looks stretched out.
And then both of my front bumper pins popped right out and fell in my carpet. I found one and got the pin back in, but I have no idea where the other one went. Over 100 dollar toy and it has pins falling out!? Jeez man.
That's a LOT of tiny and tight pieces for such a small figure. Hope the transformation didn't make you a cliff jumper..
Hammer........Hammer........Hammer.......Hammer.......Hammer.........Hammer....... 🔨..... 🤣🤣🤣
Hes the best that came out better then takara
great video, but this is a NO for me. I think that some companies forget that these are toys. And you should enjoy the experience, beautiful figure but in order to get from bot to vehicle is a pian, NO NO NO
......looks like Blossom ....... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
hi, thanks for the video. i saw you and i prefer keep with my mmc cliff
I have this guy on order but he hasn't arrived yet. Watching reviews the robot mode looks pretty good, not as good as some other figures but definitely better than MP-45 while still capturing those toon proportions.
The transformation looks like trash though, it is a return to Fanstoys Fiddly and IMO that is a big step backwards compared to most of their recent stuff. Ball oegs on double hinges? Assemblies if parts just swinging free with loving points until you manipulate a half dozen panels around them to lock them down? It all seems a return to bad form and not fun or intuitive at all.
“This dude looks like Blossom” LOL!
This folks is the direct result of your pining for toon accuracy for a decade. You wanted it! Now you got it! These difficult transformations and extra panels are what it takes to make a complex figure look bland. Not to mention it drives the price up due to the extra engineering it takes. Congratulations! I swear to god I wish the fu*kin toon movement would die. Why not have a cheaper line that does that.? Why put that in a “masterpiece” figure. The Masterpiece line started as a real world take on the characters and was designed to look good in BOTH modes. It’s a bastardization of something caught between CHUG and MP these days. Sad stuff.
Great review as always Skully!
blossom!!!! hahahahahaha
"Looks like Blossom "😭😭😭
Blossom! 😂😂😂
While it does feel like an eye-gougingly rough experience for you transforming it, I try to be forgiving of it, realizing that fitting all that robot into a little car like that has got to be some tough engineering. Maybe I'm being too forgiving? In any case, If I did get this guy I don't think I would ever transform him anyway haha.
Those first two side pieces to unpeg sound like a Takara product. Yikes.
Mann!! Not gonna lie! That was a creepy!! Joker like laugh!! Please keep it coming!! At one point I almost thought Bobby was going to throw the figure against Backdrop!! That would of been Amazing forsure!! I definitely can Identify with this!!..If Bobby would of Threw it!!...I would of said!!
...No! No! That thing Deserved it!! 👏😲
I have the exact same issue regarding the right elbow but otherwise appears to be good. After watching this, I think I'll skip the transformation. 😂
He got a Dust shnoz!
Bobby, when will you review TT MP-57 Skyfire?
After not picking up the last 7 or 8 FTs releases, I decided to get Par Course...and boy after 2 transformation, the DBL arm Swivel connection is a mess. Either the screw is backing itself out slowly or it no longer holds tension to the body. Because the outer shoulder is tighter than the inner connection, the inner connection becomes the weak join. Please lube the outer shoulder before messing around with the figure, once the inner shoulder screw is loose, it's down hill from there.
need some image stabilization on those hands, mac!
Why buy transforming toys if you're not going to transform them? What's the point? Why not just buy non-transforming ones instead and not have any kibble issues and the like?
Love that FT is doing all the other bots. But, when are they going to finish the Menasor and Superion? I betting never. What a stain in their reputation imo.
People give Bobby grief about his transformations, but this is easily the worst Fanstoys transformation I've ever experienced. Way too many hinges, ball pegs and joints that all have to come together just perfectly. Took me almost an hour to get this vehicle mode. He's never coming out of that again. It was a hellacious transformation @bobbyskullface
This is like MP5 Megatron level of terrible engineering lol
Robot Mode Check
Alt Car Mode Check
Transformation to get there? Sarcastic Comment Loading
I think the Face is fine, it's the Best Face out there so far imo. FTs Cliffjumper is heads and shoulders about TTs Bumblebee.
The car is cute, and looks accurate.
Bot mode, is Excellent.
The split is a tolerance issue and the different Window Blues is not good.
Overall, FT did raise the Bar, as long as you DO NOT include the Transformation.
In your case BS, not tear your hair out, but rip your Mask off.
Good Review.
May still get one
By the way i found that fantoys jazz was easy to transform
Blimey ive ordered this articulation wise i think earthrise has more articulation.
You gonna dust that review table this month also?