Thanks for the video. I inherited one of those suits from my father, but never knew how to use it haha. I will rip it out of its package and actually try it on tonight!
Interesting video. One thing I've heard is that the "sticky" detector paper (called "M9 paper" in the US) can give off a false positive if exposed to certain chemicals such as brake fluid. Thanks for putting this video out. I'm sure other preppers and/or collectors would do well with this knowledge.
nice vid, I've been watching a few other vids on nbc suits and I've learned that the rubber nbc suites are better for preppers due to their longer shelf life, the lighter suites made from activated charcoal and waterproof fabric have expired dates, so for a preppier like you id say you're better off with a rubber suite, they're harder to put on but will last for a long tome if stored correctly and it won't be an issue if you keep it for 10-20 years, I'm not sure on the expired date on the fabric nbc suites so you might want to check that.
I have discovered that the manufacturers of CBRN suits will NOT sell them to the general public, so we are therefore restricted straight away for availability. My preference over all other suits would be the new Military CBRN suits over any other - Their longevity and robustness far exceeds many other suits (The can be washed many many times and still be viable). I feel the Rubber suits are NOT as good, they do not breathe, are more restrictive for movement and the rubber can deteriorate / perish quicker over time. I would have no problem using a military CBRN suit that was 10years out of shelf life date. Thanks for the comment.
@@PreparednessVeteranI think they "Powers that be" do not want us "The public" to have good suits. I will be getting the Mk4 British Army NBC Suit. God will in a couple of months.
@@sideshow4417 Who said anything about nuclear war. The Germans didn't drop dirty bombs in ww2 but everyone had a gas mask! And if NBC kit doesn't provided protection, then I wasted a lot of time running round a football pitch at Aldershot wearing one. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have the same exact suit made in the late 90's very compressed, its air tight, hard, and it seems like its new upon opening, but it's made 25 years ago. is there any way to tell if it's good and working? thanks
Excellent video thank you. The suits come in sealled bags, to they have limited shelf life? I've heard different view about charcoal some saying it 'activited' so once packaging is opened or if there holes in bags then charcoal will be used up
Yes they come in vacuum packed, double sealed bags, with a shelf life of eight years, but after opened = 28 days. Activated charcoal does not really have a shelf life. It is the other component parts that deteriorate first.
Perfect mate. Thanks very much for the refresher! I’m so glad no poor dog walker came across you in this video! In all seriousness though very well made and informative video.
CBRN filters or ABEK2P3 filters have a P3 level particulate filter as part of the protection. Smoke is a particulate as far as I have been informed from several different sources. Why are you saying the filter won't protect from smoke inhalation? Is there something I am missing? Yes it won't provide oxygen, yes it won't (usually) protect from carbon monoxide but smoke it should certainly protect from right?
I have tested multiple gas mask with smoke grenades and they only seem to protect you from it with new filters and the filters become unusable pretty quickly. IDK why but don't use it in a fire it is better to not wear it at all just stay low to the ground all the smoke rise high up so generally there is a 2 foot or so gap from the bottom of the floor between deadly smoke and surprisingly fresh air. If you want to test this take a hot shower amd let the water heater is up the bathroom then get close to the ground and you'll notice that the floor area will be suprisingly cool- the same goes for a smoke and burning house.
Issue S10 Respirator filters will not protect against the hot gases, Carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide contained in smoke. After a short time the low oxygen level will cause one to suffocate.
A lot of 'preppers' have this gear but do not know how to don, use, or doff the suit. Many will buy this gear as a comfort blanket. People should really watch this first th-cam.com/video/QUe-5T0Zw0w/w-d-xo.html
Have you used gas mask in real situation? Need to be ready but how often it's actually used? In WW1 it was huge thing but now these poisons are prohibited by conventions. In Syria they used and now was used in Ukraine in small amount. Also question about carbon monoxide. In main prepping shops these co filters are unavailable because main manufacturer is under sanctions. I'm thinking about co filter is needed in confined spaces where fire has not enough oxygen. How often this situation is in war?
Although regularly exposed to incapaciting agents (CS Gas), No, I have not been in any situation involving other chemical agents. I believe the chances of exposure to lethal chemical agent exposure is very small/limited. If you are concerned about chemical agents and or carbon monoxide, I would suggest you consider a CBRN escape mask which, depending on model, would cater for both. In conflict/war, the use of CBRN is a rare. You are probably more likely to face the threat from Toxic Industrial Hazards from chemical accidents/incidents or terrorist activity. Hope this helps.
I read that suits will have a shelf life of around 16 years if stored in their original packaging, but after that they will begin to degrade and their effectiveness for CBRN protection will be minimal. From my searches on ebay, all the suits I've seen were manufactured from 86 up to 1994. They are all Mk3 or mk 4 in olive or DPM pattern. I'm unable to find one that would be up-to-date so to speak. I'm looking at getting a S10 respirator with filters, and a complete suit with hood, boots and gloves. I know that OPEC Systems (formerly Remploy Limited) and Avon Protection manufacture the current CBRN gear for the ADF and the British Armed Forces, but they don't seem to sell to the public. Do you have any advice or should I just ignore my research and get one of those mk4s?
The British Mk4 has a shelf life of 8 years. You could probably extend that a bit more if stored in stable conditions and the integrity of the packaging is good. If you watch my other video th-cam.com/video/QUe-5T0Zw0w/w-d-xo.html I state why it is not a good idea to buy military surplus cbrn / ppe gear (although aimed at this pandemic, it pertains to all cbrn events). Many CBRN PPE companies do not sell to the public. I would opt for a quality respirator and suitable bodily protection such as a suit from MIRA safety. Best option DM me on Twitter.
@@PreparednessVeteran Know of any place that has the Targa 2 suits for sale? I've got two MKIV suits (DPM and Olive Drab) and a Remploy Responder "Peeler Suit" for my black kit, but I'd rather have one of these Targa 2 suits. They seem to be more well-made.
You could put it through the washing machine half a dozen times, but that would ruin the effectiveness of the suit. It wouldn't do the washing machine a lot of good either.
Using petroleum jelly on your beard with a respirator for a CBRN threat is a bad idea: -It would still result in an ineffective seal. Petroleum jelly is slippery and may not create a lasting, airtight seal around your beard. The respirator needs to fit snugly against your skin for proper protection. -Impaired fit, applying and removing petroleum jelly can disrupt the proper positioning of the respirator, compromising the seal further. -Skin irritation, petroleum jelly can irritate the skin, especially with prolonged use under a respirator. In a CBRN situation, you might need to wear the respirator for extended periods. -Visibility issues, petroleum jelly on your beard could smudge or obscure your vision, especially if it gets on the respirator itself. Look for a complete head/hood respirator solution. In the end, a proper respirator seal is vital for your safety. Don't risk it with unreliable methods like petroleum jelly.
@@PreparednessVeteran *Virus Mania How The Medical Industry Continually Invents Epidemics, Making Billion $ Profits:* archive.org/details/virus-mania-how-the-medical-industry-continually-invents-epidemics/mode/2up *BÉCHAMP or PASTEUR? A Lost Chapter in the History of Biology by Ethel Douglas Hume:* digital.library.yorku.ca/yul-570312/bechamp-or-pasteur-lost-chapter-history-biology#page/44/mode/2up Or here: www.mnwelldir.org/docs/history/biographies/Bechamp-or-Pasteur.pdf *The Contagion Myth by Thomas S. Cowan, Sally Fallon Morell:* www.pattoverascienza.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/The_Contagion-MITH_W.pdf *The Blood and Its Third Element:* www.amazon.com/Blood-Its-Third-Element/dp/1541159357/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&qid=1620905249&refinements=p_27%3AAntoine+Bechamp&s=books&sr=1-1 In 1776, Dr. Benjamin Rush, a signer of the Declaration of Independence, foretold a grim scenario that has now taken shape right before our eyes. He said: *"Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution the time will come when medicine will organize itself into an undercover dictatorship. To restrict the art of healing to doctors and deny equal privileges to others will constitute the Bastille of medical science. All such laws are un-American and despotic.".* Now, after the year 2000, we are very much facing this reality, as we live in an era where our medical freedom is increasingly under attack, and "healing" has been replaced with "treating" ‘diseases’ with toxic chemicals and surgery. This drug-driven medical paradigm not only depends on the sacrifice and, some might say, torture, of animals in medical research, but also in many ways uses humans as sacrificial lambs. First of all I say, there is no such thing as a pathogen when it comes to bacteria. Pathogen means disease causing. Bacteria never cause disease. Chemicals cause disease. The pharmaceutical industry, the chemical industry and the military industrial complex don’t want you to know that everything they produce causes cancer and disease. They call all the natural things pathogenic so you’re completely confused and stupid. Bacteria that clean up, they are janitors; they are just janitors. They eat decaying, dead and toxic tissue. Depending on how toxic the tissue is, the bacteria may not be able to eat it because it would kill them. In that case, your body creates virus which are not alive, they are just solvents that will dissolve that matter that is contaminated.
Bring back the joys of attending the Winterbourn Gunner NBC Instructors Course, which the majority of the staff were RAF Regiment !
Porton Down focusses the mind better lol.
These videos are made well and I was a bit gutted when you had a brake but thank God you are back and I know your channel will grow ATB
Thanks for the video. I inherited one of those suits from my father, but never knew how to use it haha. I will rip it out of its package and actually try it on tonight!
They are great and very effective suits. Their integrity will outlast their shelf life.
Good Luck.
Interesting video. One thing I've heard is that the "sticky" detector paper (called "M9 paper" in the US) can give off a false positive if exposed to certain chemicals such as brake fluid.
Thanks for putting this video out. I'm sure other preppers and/or collectors would do well with this knowledge.
nice vid, I've been watching a few other vids on nbc suits and I've learned that the rubber nbc suites are better for preppers due to their longer shelf life, the lighter suites made from activated charcoal and waterproof fabric have expired dates, so for a preppier like you id say you're better off with a rubber suite, they're harder to put on but will last for a long tome if stored correctly and it won't be an issue if you keep it for 10-20 years, I'm not sure on the expired date on the fabric nbc suites so you might want to check that.
I have discovered that the manufacturers of CBRN suits will NOT sell them to the general public, so we are therefore restricted straight away for availability. My preference over all other suits would be the new Military CBRN suits over any other - Their longevity and robustness far exceeds many other suits (The can be washed many many times and still be viable). I feel the Rubber suits are NOT as good, they do not breathe, are more restrictive for movement and the rubber can deteriorate / perish quicker over time.
I would have no problem using a military CBRN suit that was 10years out of shelf life date.
Thanks for the comment.
@@PreparednessVeteranI think they "Powers that be" do not want us "The public" to have good suits. I will be getting the Mk4 British Army NBC Suit. God will in a couple of months.
With whats going on in Ukraine right now, and our showing our hand by sending equipment to Ukraine, i think we should all be watching this!
Why? Do you think owning an NBC suit will protect you from nuclear war with the Russians?
@@sideshow4417 Who said anything about nuclear war. The Germans didn't drop dirty bombs in ww2 but everyone had a gas mask! And if NBC kit doesn't provided protection, then I wasted a lot of time running round a football pitch at Aldershot wearing one. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have the same exact suit made in the late 90's very compressed, its air tight, hard, and it seems like its new upon opening, but it's made 25 years ago. is there any way to tell if it's good and working? thanks
Not really, efficacy drops with shelf life. Older ones are better than nothing. They have may well have other uses.
@@PreparednessVeteran oK cool.However just wondering if you had a suit from 1992. Would you wear it? Thanks
@@calmstormambience1875 Absolutely, IF nothing else newer was available.
@@PreparednessVeteran yep that's true Thanks for that
I’m thinking of using a czech nbc suit from 1975 for my Halloween costume
Not only you get a sick ass Halloween costume but they'll all be jealous when the end of the world comes
@@codrinmicusan446 yes
@@codrinmicusan446 what’s sad is all the nbc suit fans have mega furry latex kinks for some fucking reason
That's probably their only useful function now.
@@PreparednessVeteran apart from chemical protection, yes
Excellent video thank you. The suits come in sealled bags, to they have limited shelf life? I've heard different view about charcoal some saying it 'activited' so once packaging is opened or if there holes in bags then charcoal will be used up
Yes they come in vacuum packed, double sealed bags, with a shelf life of eight years, but after opened = 28 days.
Activated charcoal does not really have a shelf life. It is the other component parts that deteriorate first.
Perfect mate. Thanks very much for the refresher! I’m so glad no poor dog walker came across you in this video! In all seriousness though very well made and informative video.
LOL - On the edge of a private area I used for training.
CBRN filters or ABEK2P3 filters have a P3 level particulate filter as part of the protection. Smoke is a particulate as far as I have been informed from several different sources. Why are you saying the filter won't protect from smoke inhalation? Is there something I am missing? Yes it won't provide oxygen, yes it won't (usually) protect from carbon monoxide but smoke it should certainly protect from right?
I have tested multiple gas mask with smoke grenades and they only seem to protect you from it with new filters and the filters become unusable pretty quickly. IDK why but don't use it in a fire it is better to not wear it at all just stay low to the ground all the smoke rise high up so generally there is a 2 foot or so gap from the bottom of the floor between deadly smoke and surprisingly fresh air. If you want to test this take a hot shower amd let the water heater is up the bathroom then get close to the ground and you'll notice that the floor area will be suprisingly cool- the same goes for a smoke and burning house.
You need one that filters carbon monoxide too. Preferably a full А1В2Е2К1НgNOCOSXР3 R D
Issue S10 Respirator filters will not protect against the hot gases, Carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide contained in smoke. After a short time the low oxygen level will cause one to suffocate.
Awesome video and i agree you need to put the suit on in a proper way otherwise you will have some serious problems as you said.
A lot of 'preppers' have this gear but do not know how to don, use, or doff the suit. Many will buy this gear as a comfort blanket.
People should really watch this first th-cam.com/video/QUe-5T0Zw0w/w-d-xo.html
Do these suits have to be thrown away when the activated carbon is completely adsorbed?
(This sentence is machine translated)
Yes. They should be treated as contaminated.
Can i have information to buy that s10 gasmask filter?
Avon respirators are the dedicated filter. CBRN canisters that have 40mm thread will fit.
Look and understand my CBRN video series.
Have you used gas mask in real situation? Need to be ready but how often it's actually used? In WW1 it was huge thing but now these poisons are prohibited by conventions. In Syria they used and now was used in Ukraine in small amount. Also question about carbon monoxide. In main prepping shops these co filters are unavailable because main manufacturer is under sanctions. I'm thinking about co filter is needed in confined spaces where fire has not enough oxygen. How often this situation is in war?
Although regularly exposed to incapaciting agents (CS Gas), No, I have not been in any situation involving other chemical agents. I believe the chances of exposure to lethal chemical agent exposure is very small/limited.
If you are concerned about chemical agents and or carbon monoxide, I would suggest you consider a CBRN escape mask which, depending on model, would cater for both.
In conflict/war, the use of CBRN is a rare. You are probably more likely to face the threat from Toxic Industrial Hazards from chemical accidents/incidents or terrorist activity.
Hope this helps.
tough thats why you do it buddy buddy
I read that suits will have a shelf life of around 16 years if stored in their original packaging, but after that they will begin to degrade and their effectiveness for CBRN protection will be minimal. From my searches on ebay, all the suits I've seen were manufactured from 86 up to 1994. They are all Mk3 or mk 4 in olive or DPM pattern. I'm unable to find one that would be up-to-date so to speak. I'm looking at getting a S10 respirator with filters, and a complete suit with hood, boots and gloves. I know that OPEC Systems (formerly Remploy Limited) and Avon Protection manufacture the current CBRN gear for the ADF and the British Armed Forces, but they don't seem to sell to the public. Do you have any advice or should I just ignore my research and get one of those mk4s?
The British Mk4 has a shelf life of 8 years. You could probably extend that a bit more if stored in stable conditions and the integrity of the packaging is good.
If you watch my other video th-cam.com/video/QUe-5T0Zw0w/w-d-xo.html I state why it is not a good idea to buy military surplus cbrn / ppe gear (although aimed at this pandemic, it pertains to all cbrn events).
Many CBRN PPE companies do not sell to the public.
I would opt for a quality respirator and suitable bodily protection such as a suit from MIRA safety.
Best option DM me on Twitter.
Can you wash the nbc suits in a washing machine? Thanks
Only for the purpose of reusing the suits for training.
The new generation of suits are far superior.
cqc.co.uk/cbrn/cbrn-oversuits/targa-2/
@@PreparednessVeteran Know of any place that has the Targa 2 suits for sale? I've got two MKIV suits (DPM and Olive Drab) and a Remploy Responder "Peeler Suit" for my black kit, but I'd rather have one of these Targa 2 suits. They seem to be more well-made.
@@-TheDogOfWar 'Black Kit'? 🤔.
You'll have to get in touch with the company for a Targa suit.
"It would be a right-sight"- Possibly the most British thing you can say while dawning an NBC suit.
Dude, I'm plain curious, I want a pair of nbc woodland gear for "daily" use... can i just remove the charcoal filter manually or something?
Trying to remove the charcoal liner from this suit will ruin it.
Other suits may vary, but they're just not designed to be dissmantled.
You could put it through the washing machine half a dozen times, but that would ruin the effectiveness of the suit. It wouldn't do the washing machine a lot of good either.
How did you get an Avon s10? They're so expensive now.
You should steer clear of military surplus gear, particularly respirators.
I explain why here - th-cam.com/video/QUe-5T0Zw0w/w-d-xo.html
@@PreparednessVeteran oh no, I'm a collector, I'm not a prepper
@@backstreet6294 In that case, either an auction site or local surplus store would be my first point of call.
@@PreparednessVeteran how much does surplus usually cost?
@@backstreet6294 Cheapest ive seen www.johnsonsofleeds.co.uk/product/s10-respirator-bag-1-filter/
We used to use training filters careful don't get one for the real deal lol
Very valid point.
Training filters are best marked.
Nice 👌🏽👌🏽👍🏽👍🏽😎😎
I have 1 of these suits and the asact same gas mask xd
😎👍
At the end you misspelled the word ‘Obscured’
You spelled it ‘Obsured’
Flying above the radar. ;)
I have a large fluffy beard. Think I can slick that sucker up with some petroleum jelly for an airtight fit?
Using petroleum jelly on your beard with a respirator for a CBRN threat is a bad idea:
-It would still result in an ineffective seal. Petroleum jelly is slippery and may not create a lasting, airtight seal around your beard. The respirator needs to fit snugly against your skin for proper protection.
-Impaired fit, applying and removing petroleum jelly can disrupt the proper positioning of the respirator, compromising the seal further.
-Skin irritation, petroleum jelly can irritate the skin, especially with prolonged use under a respirator. In a CBRN situation, you might need to wear the respirator for extended periods.
-Visibility issues, petroleum jelly on your beard could smudge or obscure your vision, especially if it gets on the respirator itself.
Look for a complete head/hood respirator solution.
In the end, a proper respirator seal is vital for your safety. Don't risk it with unreliable methods like petroleum jelly.
Thanks. I was halfway joking but also curious about it too. Cheers.
your fitting is not good . You have to put tape on your gloves .
I got one ready for the coronavirus
I hope you have more than that.
@@PreparednessVeteran *Virus Mania How The Medical Industry Continually Invents Epidemics, Making Billion $ Profits:* archive.org/details/virus-mania-how-the-medical-industry-continually-invents-epidemics/mode/2up
*BÉCHAMP or PASTEUR? A Lost Chapter in the History of Biology by Ethel Douglas Hume:*
digital.library.yorku.ca/yul-570312/bechamp-or-pasteur-lost-chapter-history-biology#page/44/mode/2up
Or here: www.mnwelldir.org/docs/history/biographies/Bechamp-or-Pasteur.pdf
*The Contagion Myth by Thomas S. Cowan, Sally Fallon Morell:* www.pattoverascienza.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/The_Contagion-MITH_W.pdf
*The Blood and Its Third Element:* www.amazon.com/Blood-Its-Third-Element/dp/1541159357/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&qid=1620905249&refinements=p_27%3AAntoine+Bechamp&s=books&sr=1-1
In 1776, Dr. Benjamin Rush, a signer of the Declaration of Independence, foretold a grim scenario that has now taken shape right before our eyes. He said: *"Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution the time will come when medicine will organize itself into an undercover dictatorship. To restrict the art of healing to doctors and deny equal privileges to others will constitute the Bastille of medical science. All such laws are un-American and despotic.".* Now, after the year 2000, we are very much facing this reality, as we live in an era where our medical freedom is increasingly under attack, and "healing" has been replaced with "treating" ‘diseases’ with toxic chemicals and surgery. This drug-driven medical paradigm not only depends on the sacrifice and, some might say, torture, of animals in medical research, but also in many ways uses humans as sacrificial lambs.
First of all I say, there is no such thing as a pathogen when it comes to bacteria. Pathogen means disease causing. Bacteria never cause disease. Chemicals cause disease. The pharmaceutical industry, the chemical industry and the military industrial complex don’t want you to know that everything they produce causes cancer and disease. They call all the natural things pathogenic so you’re completely confused and stupid. Bacteria that clean up, they are janitors; they are just janitors. They eat decaying, dead and toxic tissue. Depending on how toxic the tissue is, the bacteria may not be able to eat it because it would kill them. In that case, your body creates virus which are not alive, they are just solvents that will dissolve that matter that is contaminated.
Who is here for Coronavirus?🙋🏼♂️🙋🏼♂️🙋🏼♂️
shut up
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