MAN GOES TO PUBLIC RESTROOM AND VANISHES | The Disappearance of Steven Clark
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- Today we discuss a 28 year old mystery from the United Kingdom. What happened to 23 year old Steven Clark?
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Your flailing hands never bothered me. Congrats on the desk though.
Nothing about Gabby ever bothereed me. She is such a sweet girl and her videos are well researched and truly interesting to me :)
I’ve never even noticed it
No I never noticed your hands. Most people talk with their hands. Don't change anything you're great. The only thing I noticed was your hair color. Which is pretty. Have you ever done a case that is 50 + years old? It's unsolved Gabby I'll send you a link. But I don't know where to send it? Through your you tube Channel. You can decide if it's interesting enough to do or not? It has always bothered me that is had never been solved. Not one lead. I thought about sending it to Mike from that chapter but I thought you'd find it interesting..
It makes her channel unique.
Congrats on the desk? 😂 congrats on the pink hair too hahaha
Whenever you refer to 20 years ago as vintage I sprout another gray hair 👵🏼
It's closer to 30 years lol
I went to a vintage clothing store last weekend. Clothes from the 80’s and 90’s...
Yes, we are young geezers now.
Lol. Everytime I hear it I get another body ache 😂
Me too!Added to my other hundred!
Ok but I wouldn’t have walked into the men’s restroom either to check on my 23-year old. What a horrible, sad situation. Thanks for the video!
"i don't have any evidence, but your honor? his vibes are rancid"
I live near here and there are a lot of cliffs. It is a seaside area, you can catch a bus up to Whitby from here. I think that he may have had a tragic accident.
If it was high tide at the time he could have been swept away which is why his body has not been found.
Surely bodies swept out to sea wash up somewhere eventually though?
@@sarahholland2600 Yes, I hope he will be found. Unfortunately though, if he was swept out to sea at high tide his body may have been partly eaten by sharks and other sea dwelling creatures. By now what would be left of him would be decomposed and would require dna identification or dental if available. There are cases like that all the time...... There are quite a lot of reports of human feet and ankles washing up still inside the shoes. After decomposition the ankle bones separate from the leg as the remains are smashed around in the ocean against rocks or waves. I have lived by the sea most of my life. I hope he is found but in all probability this may be what happened.
@@sarahholland2600 Not necessarily, you think they would but unfortunately some don't.
I live here and I completely agree, his body may have been taken to sea. The cliffs can be very dangerous
@@sarahholland2600 often times the ocean doesn't give up bodies. The soft tissue gets eaten by sea creatures. The bones seperate and often end up on the ocean floor. The only body part that may surface is a foot in a sneaker but overtime even that is less likely.
I’m thinking “90s?? That isn’t vintage.” That was over 30 yrs ago. 😭😭😭 reality just set
every time she says she covers cases 20 years or older I always think late '80s but its actually 2001 ✋😫
30 years ago to me is the 1970s.
@@slavicgoth I know right! I feel old. That is okay, blessed to reach this age!
😂😐😒😭
@@KJ-gc8oq 30 years ago to me was before I was born until I remember that my granddaughter turns 23 in August lolol
Hmmm, 4 pm, december in England is pretty much dark outside (same as Sweden where I live). That witness could
have been misstaken.
True!
Yeah you're right it would have been dark already!
Excellent point!n Dark here at 4 in winter, too.
Out of all these witnesses, did anyone say they saw Steven and his mother on the beach walking together?
this is my question also, and if not I suspect the parents
No. Very recent UK doc said he was sighted a day later with an older man ( who matched his Dad's description ..... ). He'd just won an apprenticeship award for the disabled & maybe was looking to live a more indelendant life despite his disability. He'd also started going to the local pub alone & come back drunk a few times.... Argument that went wrong over his new socialising? He had a limp & an arm he couldn't straighten. Maybe he fell, drunk, while arguing...
@@sarahholland2600 I just think the police got on it fairly quickly, and I find it hard to believe no one could recall a young man with a limp walking on the beach with an older woman. It's like "Hey, there is a young man walking with an older woman. Wait... He has a limp. He's handicapped. It must be his mother" It may not be right but that's how peoples brains work. They would have stuck out.
Yea I have a "feeling" that they never went for a walk on the beach, but need to see more on the case. This is the first time I've heard anything about it.
Good question!
When I’m 100 and my ma is 124, I’ll still be her baby. I’ve accepted it.
Yes!
So true♥️♥️
Yup acceptance is key I let it go at 21 I'll always be a baby in my mom's eyes I'm 32 and Im perfectly fine with the dynamic 🤣
Im always telling my 5 year old grand daughter about this for her dad (my son)
Your lucky though that you still have your mom, mine passed away 8 yrs ago in March.😭I still miss her every day. So enjoy all time you spend with mom
Wait... 1992 was 28 years ago? I was a Sophomore in High School. Seems like yesterday. Crazy!
I know right!!
* 29 years ago. I was born in '93 and turn 28 this year
no way that's ridiculous, I was a proper grown up then, well 26. My lifestyle is pretty much the same and no kids too so I hardly notice the time
I was 2 😭😭
My husband was a newborn I didn’t exist 🥴
I have the bad feeling that stranger hurt him because of his disability ... I know people like that exist ... :/
It s sadly true
Evil is everywhere :(
That is what I was thinking about as well because he may put up some of a fight but if there were more than one person it would be easy. The scary thing is human trafficking rings could target people who might have a harder time fighting back or escaping...
@@avptb I doubt human trafficking rings would target disabled people like him ...
Sadly i was wondering the same thing.
I dont lnpw quite what to think.
Many killers see people with disabilities as easy targets unfortunately.
Others said it here in the comments but I feel the same as they do: I find it very odd that the mother didn’t do one of these two things- either crack the door of the rest room open and yell out Steven’s name, or ask a guy to check in there for him. Those things would be considered normal behavior. So I feel her ( the mother’s) behavior is very odd and suspicious. Regardless of what anyone else thinks, that’s what I think. The mom.
You can do abnormal things without killing people
@@no_peace your comment actually says absolutely nothing.
@@AdrienneMint calm down Karen
@@haleyfitts4752 why don’t you make me
@@AdrienneMint I’m not a child 🙂
I don't know, the parents really don't sit right with me. I don't blame the police for looking at them, but I do blame the police for not doing it until 28 years after the fact😒
Yeah, the story doesn't make sense. You don't just leave the people you're with and give no explanation. It's not as if he could have sent her a text.
The mother seemed obvious right away to me. She leaves without her son? A friend wouldn’t even do that. You ask someone, call inside, go inside...idk
@@addie_is_me she could have asked a man to see if he's still there. Knowing how long she waited is important information that we won't get probably.
I was thinking the same thing..
I have the same feeling about his mom, maybe not so much his dad.
Did anyone see then together at the beach that day?
Did anyone witness them at the restroom?
Why would she just assume he started walking home?
Why would she not have asked someone to check on him?
Why would she not have tried yelling in to the restroom for a response?
As much as I hate victim blaming, I can't help but to think she really didn't pay any attention to her son. First he gets hit by a truck under her watch, then he goes missing under her watch. Very odd.
Wow! When this story began, I didn't think it would turn towards parental accusations!😮
You've done a great job on this story!
Remembering Steven😔🙏
I think its a bit strange that his mum didn't ask someone if they saw him in the bathroom or call out to him if she didn't want to go in.
Right at least she could of knocked and asked if he needed any help or at least she could of yelled and let him know she was using the bathroom.
Also noone saw them at the beach together either. Doris is extremely suspect.
Gabby explained the Mothers reasons for that ... He was 23 .. at some stage you have to allow your child some freedom .
Giving the 23 year old man privacy is one thing but the mother should have told him that she was also going to be using the bathroom and then waited for at least 10 minutes and then knocked on the door and called for him to see if he was alright or in need of any kind of help depending on the type of injuries that he had.
People were going in and out of the bathroom. If someone had been bleeding out on the floor those people would have reacted. There was zero reason to think he had gone missing. The family had probably had interactions like this a hundred times if they went out together. I've been in arguments with my family because half the time they hover and half the time I could be dead on the road and they wouldn't even notice because they were engrossed in conversation with my aunts and uncles. They didn't KILL ME ffs they are just human beings who tend not to follow me into the bathroom.
He was a grown man but his disabilities may have made him seem younger than he was and potentially more vulnerable to a predator. Perhaps someone who knew him from his area lured him into a vehicle under the pretense of offering him a job? I wonder if they ever questioned or looked into the registered sex offenders in his area?
If he really had mental disabilities that would have made him younger in his mind and logic and reasoning then as a mom I'm speaking as a mother I would not have gone to the restroom myself until my son had come out of there and I would have said don't go off with anybody stay right here I got to go tinkle I'll be right back will continue our walk, quote end quote!! I would have literally wet on myself rather than make my son think I had gone off without him by being in the restroom mother's just don't do things like that and she knew his disabilities didn't matter that he's 6 ft tall or whatever and looks like a man the mother knew he wasn't really a man in his mind he didn't have the logic and sensibilities that she should have had maybe the mother had some mental disabilities but I say mother is number one suspect
@@karenking5357 If he did. But he wasn't mentally challenged. He was physically challenged. Karen!
No i don't believe da...his parents they did it .
no, it was the parents, you just need to watch their body language to know they did it
@@geraldbarreno535 yep
Your pronunciation of Yorkshire made me smile it’s perfect 👌
Whoa. This is just tragic and crazy. I can't believe the police did that though. I don't think his parents had anything to do with his disappearance. I can't imagine what they've been through with everything going on in the world and then to get arrested like that almost 3 decades later. And it sounds like it as based on some idiot writing a letter saying they had a feeling the parents murdered their son. Unbelievable. Wow. Good job covering this. I hope he is found. 💖💖💖
It is 2021 and it is hard for us people with disabilities to find a job. I have autism. I went to catholic school growing up and then I went on to college and graduated so I am well educated and it was still hard to find a job... All right thanks just wanted to state that... Love ya bye!
I have it as well and went to a Catholic School, I have never had anyone support me, seriously on my own since I have been 18, I am 49 now and because I had no choice I forced myself to learn how to work and work with others, it's so difficult but I don't have a choice I do choose to care for myself and my animals and not get help as I value that I have accomplished just this and am still trying. I hope this helps, you can do it too. xo
I’m sorry to hear that Becca, I was hoping things got better but it’s never been easy for people with disabilities to find a job. I was born disabled in a wheelchair and I am well educated too. I’m about the same age as this man in the video if not a little older that’s why this particular case got my attention.
Honestly it's hard for people without disabilities to find jobs sometimes too.. the job market is a bitch tbh 🤷🏻♀️ The job hiring process is like a gladiatorial match to the death 😂 But I hope you were able to find something ❤️
I hope the setbacks are just a stepping stone for something wonderful and a job where people will really appreciate you as a person and as an employee.
same here. Went to Catholic school and I have ADHD. I'm lucky to have a job now, but it took 4 years after college to get here. The Job Market is absolutely vile in general, but there's an additional disgustingness they have with disabled people. I hope things improve now that 2020 has exposed those shady practices more and you're able to find work that suits your boundaries. Its 2021, we should not have to live like this anymore.
This is why girls always go to the bathroom in at least two this makes me think men should too :(
right
Oh is that why. I’m a woman who needs privacy and never thought of a good reason to go as 2.
Is it? I go in twos or threes with my girlfriends/sister because we're chatting and laughing together and might as well go when the one of the others do lol. Never thought of it as a safety thing.
@@isthisjustfantasy7557 I try to go by myself from a restaurant table, for example, and the other woman at the the table will pop up to go with me. Why they do that is one of the great mysteries of life.
@@jonhohensee3258 wow thanks so much for completing dismissing the point bestie!
My son is 20 but he has epilepsy so damn straight I would have gone in there or ask someone if he was in there!
But he didn't have epilepsy, he had a limp.
Getting hit by a car that badly causes internal issues far beyond just a limp, the surgeries alone would have put him at risk of developing blood clots
That's what I said I would have gone in if I had waited but I would not have gone into the ladies room until my son was out of the men's room because if she was in the ladies room he could have come out and with mental disabilities could have thought she deserted him I mean we're talking about a missing person's case here and if her story is true I would have peed on myself before I would have left the area to go into the restroom I don't care if it was 3 ft away I would not have left that spot until my son had come out and if it was more than 10 minutes I would have been in there looking for him or at least send somebody in and then I would have gone in make sure the place was clear I would have asked another man hey can you go and make sure it's clear you know my son is missing I can't find him any he's been in there too long but no instead she has to go pee she doesn't wait on him he may have felt deserted when he came out and she wasn't there if it is true he you know wasn't taking advantage of in the restroom but I would have been watching the door to the restroom until he came out as his mother I would have done that as his friend I would have done that especially with disabilities of any kind
Me too. I've been in situations where I've been with a friend who needed to go, and wasn't disabled, then decided I needed to go and we ended up having to find each other in days before cell phones.
I’m representing myself in court against my ex who’s a corrupt chief. Your mood being the attorney is my whole vibe. “ I have a feeling” 😅🤣
Good luck with your court case!!
@@sushisaschi7744 thank you 🙏
@@Michelle-hd2kv how’d it go
Where is the sister? What does she have to say? Was she ever mentioned other than being born after her brother?
That’s what I was wondering too!
This is really a strange case. I’m surprised it hasn’t been all over the Internet. I do think the parents behavior is a little odd, but you never know how you will act in the same situation. We all have those “why did I do that” moments. It’s just so sad. The mom not wanting to step on the son’s toes because of his disability, and now something probably happened to him because of it.
Appreciate what you're saying Julie but as a mother with a son with both physical and mental disabilities I would have never up and gone to the bathroom to go pee myself until he had come out and let him know I'm going in I'll be right back to stay right here if what she's saying is anywhere near the truth she goes in the restroom he comes out doesn't see her he could have panicked he could have gone looking for her maybe he didn't know to knock on the women's restroom door or call her name I think the mother should have never gone into the restroom without waiting until he was out of the men's restroom so he could know where she went that's the story that I think is extremely suspect the mother would have never left her kid I don't care what his age was if he has logical reasoning disabilities
@@karenking5357 I understand your point. I also had children with problems, and they do need to learn how to function as best they can in the world. I’m so sorry this happened to him. I hope they find him.
@@karenking5357 Your name checks out.
@@karenking5357, he was physically disabled. Not mentally.
On one hand, if he was very sensitive when it came to his disability, I can see why she didn't check.
Because she didn't want to upset him.
I hear what you're saying. I've a son who is full needs with autism.
I do find it strange that she wouldn't have someone check before she left for home.
Heck, I've had people check on my husband in a bathroom.
I really wish it was known for sure if him and his mother went out together. I think the biggest possiblity is that he came out of the restroom, went looking for his mom and met foul play. Maybe a mugging that ended in his death and the person/ people hid him. Or unfortunately the possibility that his parents did something to him and their activities that night were a lie. I don't see any reason to think the parents were involved though. I'm curious if there was anything they had to gain from his death. The guy that changed up his sighting story 3 times is sure odd though! Maybe he had something to do with what happened to him. 🤔 Terribly sad case though! Hopefully what happened will come out and it will be solved!
Well sure there's a reason to think the parents are guilty at least the mother if I had a child with mental disabilities and we were taking a walk to the beach and he had to go the bathroom I would have not gone to the bathroom until he had come out of the men's room because I would not want him to worry where I was and think I had deserted him and I think that's the suspect right there that as a mother she would have never done that she would have waited until he came out of the restroom and then she would go into the ladies room I know that's exactly what I would do I was very protective my children on things like that and then here's this I know he's adult but his mental capabilities are not adult and so he probably doesn't have logic and reasoning so I would have never left him by going into the restroom while he was in the men's room that's just the way it is there's the suspicion and did they have something to gain sure they did possibly insurance but more likely just the burden the mother may have felt the burden of having to take care of him that he would have never been you know a complete person able to take care of himself completely and she'd already been taking care of him several years of him not being normal from her perspective so she loved that son and wanted him to be safe she would have never gone into the restroom herself until he had come out of the men's room then she would have gone in and told him STAY!!
@@karenking5357 he didn’t have mental disabilities. Please Stop spreading lies
Thank you Gabby. I love the way you sensitively & respectfully cover these cases. I live in the UK & recently watched the documentary you mentioned. I do feel for his poor parents!
i understand folks finding his parents suspicious, i’m just stuck on the motive
Likewise I remember this here in the uk 🇬🇧 I’m doing more research. Yes his parents are a bit strange maybe but doesn’t make them murderers. This supposed girlfriend wonder if she had another boyfriend?
I’n unsure for the motive of the parents the dad seems like he might have been quite stern . And quite unemotional on the itv program but these are edited .
Yes they are in their eighties now memories alter I know from
My own parents . Maybe they are traumatised it’s a massive shock when a child dies or goes missing .
They said the town they lived in everyone knew each other . But often it’s someone you know rather than a stranger .
The rules of arrest have changed since Stephen disappeared. It’s a conundrum im going to look into.
The anonymous letter if it’s like the ripper case (both) this could be a fake one sad done by press one police ….
Yeah. This is the problem with true crime people thinking anyone weird is guilty. I'm autistic. If I had a kid who died, everyone would probably say I did it because I didn't respond right or I didn't remember something exactly right, and "any parent would remember exactly what happened" or whatever nonsense they always say. Or if I were killed, people might blame my parents, and guess what? THEY'RE ALSO AUTISTIC lol
Lots of neurodevelopmental conditions run in families. You just can't make assumptions about guilt based on whether people act neurotypical or not
Yeah. Plus no life insurance policy on him was mentioned. I doubt the parents had anything to do with it.
@@no_peace Yes! It always bugs me too how people are so judgemental! They're like- they didn't react how I would so they must be guilty! 🙄 People don't react the same way. Plus we never know how we'll truly react unless we're in that situation.
Thank you for the name of your lipstick. Darling with the pink hair ❣❣❣❣❣
You acting out a lawyer having “feelings” was wonderful lol 🖤
Hi Gabby. I adore you. Thank you for all of your hard work and respect showed towards victims and their families. I hope you are well.
Interesting that the police couldn't be bothered to look into the case for the first 24 hours, but years later suddenly the two people who tried to get them involved and actually did their own search for the first 24 hours probably killed him 🙄
I'm surprised there are apparently no statements from the younger sister. If the parents were suspected, surely she would have had something to say to that, either in their defense or corroborating suspicion of them. I would assume that she would have a unique insight into her parents' relationship with her brother.
The mother’s story does not make any sense. I don’t understand what made her think he walked home. Why didn’t she check or ask the two men. She didn’t want to embarrass him, so she just left....what? Why would she just leave; wouldn’t she have seen him walking. When she got back home and couldn’t find him why not go back to the restrooms and check?
To be fair, if I expected my mom to be waiting for me outside the bathroom and when I came out she was gone, I might assume that SHE started walking home, especially if I took a long time.
We don't know anything about these people. As far as I'm concerned this has happened more than once, meaning the last time she went to the bathroom on an outing, he got impatient and walked home, so she assumed he did it again. We have no idea what experiences people have or why they think what they think. Why would she think he was still in the bathroom? It sounds like she deduced that he wasn't, based on all the evidence suggesting he wasn't, so she went looking for him
I'm from the UK and I have say I've never heard of this case... It's very strange
I have never heard of this case too, I don't watch ITV uk
@@beaulieuonnp593 I don't watch that channel much, so I had no idea about the programme they did.... Still haven't watched it either lol.
But you know how some cases you just grow up hearing about them, it's a shame it isn't more well known.
I remember it I’m going to go look into it 🇬🇧 interesting that the girl Stephen was apparently seeing isn’t mentioned
I dont believe for a second they murdered their son why would they? He was living independently and they werent taking care of him. He wasnt a "burden" to them
His dad recently said he wants to find him dead or alive and that it doesn’t matter which. Weird thing to say
@@abigaillistee6529 his sons been missing a long time he is probably very frustrated and just wants answers. If you over analyze what he said in "it doesnt matter which" then yeah but i see it as someone who wants answers and doesnt know how to feel or if he can grieve. Sometimes words just come out wrong in an attempt to get the point across but hey i dont know him, so i could be completely wrong of course.
@@abigaillistee6529 he wants closure. I hear a lot of people say this about their missing family. They just want to know either way
@@abigaillistee6529 it's not weird at all. By now he just wants closure.
@@abigaillistee6529 yes as soon as he said that big red flag!!
I'm from beautiful (and rainy!) Scotland 🏴
I meant to say this - I completely, 100% understand why she didn't ask. We can not question what we would do in her shoes. My youngest child is a 2 year old boy, my oldest child is 19 - now in the USN at Sub School, my daughter is 17 - graduating this year. I would without question, look for my 2 year old up until he is about 18 (in a public restroom I'm referring to a situation LIKE this i wouldn't barge into a mens room looking for an adult male - I would ask a dude to look for him - I HAVE done that when my oldest was 14 just wanted to make this clear) - I would still look for my daughter (in a women's restroom) even as a 17 year old & as an adult. But my boys? Once they become "men" I would try to honor their individualism and fear embarrassing them. Is it correct? Maybe not. Its not lack of love, quite the opposite - I love then so much that I recognize what they would prefer.
Please do a video on the mysterious death of 1920's socialite, Starr Faithful.
Love your hair, btw. 💜
Her life and death were tragic.
Sorry, but I think the parents have something to do with it. Perhaps it was a genuine accident or planned (perhaps taking care of him with his disabilities and inability to hold certain jobs was too stressful), but people do not simply disappear. I think the bathroom story was utterly fabricated. Notice we only have one version of what happened (from the parents).
Your hair is everything! These types of disappearances creep me out.
Was discussing the case with my partner and he recalled Steven was saving money. Was there any mention about his money after his disappearance? Was it still where Steven saved it or gone?
Hell with the hair, most importantly is the case she is covering.
I believe the story is everything. Not her hair
@@Karen-tu1pq there's nothing wrong with complimenting someone. Clearly she watched the case, chill. It can go both ways too, to hell with your negativity it's about the case. Difference is the original comment was a positive one. I hope you have a better day.
@@daymarie1111 Thank you for being a light in my comment thread. It's unfortunate that we can't compliment creators WHILE watching the video.
see my question is, why didn't his mom ask someone coming out of the bathroom if they saw him?
ikr! i understand her not wanting to go in but she could just ask someone
@@tasneemkhan3350 and she should have never left the spot where they were when he went to the restroom she should have never gone into the restroom a few moments later she should have waited to go pee until her son was out there again that's the fishy part right there that he went and then she shortly after she went she didn't wait till he came out of the restroom so while she went in the restroom something could have happened to her son or he could have come out he didn't see her and he panicked and thought maybe something had happened to his mom and he started looking for her that's what I'm saying as a mama bear myself I would have never left that spot till he had come out then I would have gotten to the restroom not before
Well was stan a balding older man back then? He tells his wife he was standing there talkin to steven.. And a woman says she seen him talkin to a balding older man... That kinda makes ya think.. If stan was older then.. And then changing up his story goin to the cops... That just sounds like a way to throw cops off.. I gotta say at first i thought stevens mom was suspicious also.. Cause she didnt have to go in but she coulda yelled in the bathroom.. And the story bout only the 2 men and lil girl stuck out... This really is one of those wth?? Cases..
Your hair is gorgeous! 💖
I bet he wandered off when Doris was in the restroom and some cruel person hurt him. Poor Steven..She could have atleast called him from the doorway if she didn’t want to go in.
I didn't wander off he was looking for his mother he didn't know she'd gone to the restroom she should have waited until he came out of the men's room and then said Son stay I'm going in the ladies room I'll be right back so that's suspect right there you say he wasn't a burden I believe he was even if he was attempting to live independently she had taken care of him for quite a while for several years and maybe something came up where you know he was going to get worse I don't know that we know that but maybe she didn't want to see herself tied down that she my brother is a kind of person who doesn't handle sickness very well now he's a very good Christian man I don't have to worry about whether he'd kill somebody and bury him but my nature is to be not just motherly but maybe to the mama bear mode type person about anybody I love so if I had a child no matter if he was 23 or 123 but he had mental disabilities I would have made sure he came out of the restroom before I went in that is suspect right there and at least mother has my attention
Something similar happened to me New Year's Eve with friends in HS. We were in downtown Boston at Faneuil Hall, my friend and I went to the ladies. I don't take long in the restroom, and she usually does, so I waited for her outside for 20 minutes, and she never came out. If she had come out before me, she would have waited, or so I thought. I never found them. I wound up spending New Year's on the frozen steps by myself with drunk people shouting in my face until I sobered up enough to take the train home. It was really bizarre and disappointing, but at least I had my own transportation home. I was pretty pissed at her for not waiting. She said she was pissed at me for not waiting, which was bizarre, because I did - for a very long time. Just saying - it's entirely possible to lose someone in a very small crowd at an event.
Thanks for sharing your experience - it gives good insight.
To accuse parents of murdering their child with absolutely NO PROOF is vile!
These people are already going through hell and the authorities are vehemently accusing them! These "authorities" are grasping at straws and I find them horrible for outright saying "where's his body, we know you killed him, etc". They should sue these officers for slandering them and ruining their yard, house, digging up their dead pet!
Police never take into consideration the belongings of the people who's home they're searching! They strew things about, they dug up their freakin garden (I would have been furious!), ugh I just can't even.
As much as I support law enforcement, alot of things they do I just cannot support. You have a warrant to search someone's home, you do not have the right to destroy their things!
This case has me mad.
His poor parents. May God be with them.
This leaves out the huge rows at home over him going to the pub with his girlfriend & coming home drunk ( he's an adult, his choice , hardly unusual for a guy his age) & that they changed their story on him attending a football match that day, before the walk. First they said he did go to the match, then they said he couldn't afford a ticket so didn't go.....He'd just won a prestigious apprenticeship & had his first steady girlfriend. He was gaining his independence & was happy. Hardly at a point where he'd commit suicide or start again somewhere else . He's also big enough to fend off unwanted advances in the men's toilets which is the scenario the parents allude to with the comment on child safety at public toilets ( so obv Mom stil sees him as a child from that, not a slightly impaired adult).
Apologies for being off-topic, but your hair is so pretty. It always is, but I especially love the color today.
go buy one . its a wig
@@ronwilson5906 lol! Actually, it’s not. 😂
@@Dee.Murphy LOL maybe not I guess the circus look is in nowadays
Heartbreaking story 💔😞😔
Hi Gabby like your pretty in pink hair color. This story is so sad. Going to the public restroom can be scary. I wonder if a predator abducted Steve. Hope he will be found one day. Hope you stay well and safe 🙏🎀
I know there would have been a lot, but did police ever check the ladies' bathroom for fingerprints to see if she had actually been in there?
A public bathroom in a park? It's probably just one big fingerprint in there - house frequently do you suppose they clean those?
I had never heard of this case. Within a few minutes of your video I started wondering if there were any witnesses that saw the mother and son out walking that day. If there are witnesses that can verify the story, then my next thought is that maybe the son was still upset about not going to the match and stormed off in another direction. Maybe there was some kind of accident, or maybe he did fall off a cliff into the ocean. Bodies don't always wash up onto the shore, so it could have just been gone. But, I'm kind of with the police on this one. They need to find the holes in the mother's story & get to the truth. I don't think he ever went on that walk in the first place. It was either an accident or the parents did something to him.
What a crazy story, very respectfully done, Gabby
Nothing's wrong with waving your hands around to talk. I watch Scotty Kilmer and he has an Italian backgruond and he waves his hands around too lol. No need to feel self conscious about it.
Soooo....police say, "it's difficult to get a search warrant," but on the strength of a letter decades later - that doesn't contain any evidence - they tear apart the home and garden of an elderly couple?? What on earth would be their rationale, and how did they manage to get this "difficult" warrant? It should make all innocent (or at least innocent-until-proven-guilt) persons deeply concerned about police procedure.
PS: I never noticed your hands, either!! Then again, I "talk with my hands", maybe it's the 1/4 Italian in me! Somebody said to me once, "if you couldn't move your hands, you wouldn't be able to talk!:" LOL
It's nice to see and hear an American pronounce British places names properly 😉👍
I really tried lol thank you!!
Is cute 😍 how you say lorry xx
17:08 OoOoOh, fancy shopping area... Hugo Boss, Nina Ricci, Paco Rabanne...
But as for what I’m sure is the biggest question on most viewers mind, like was mentioned in the video, is why the mum didn’t do more. I am usually quite suspicious as I do consume a lot of true crime content, however, in this case I really sympathize with the mum and I do believe her missteps were purely innocent. I think she’d probably tried to over-help and embarrassed her son in a multitude of scenarios throughout his life and she just wanted to do her best as a supportive parent without being intrusive. I think looking in there for him on her own or asking a complete stranger to go look in the restroom for him she thought would be very embarrassing for her son and that he’d possibly be very upset. Like, “Gee, Ma. You can’t even trust me to go to the bathroom on my own. I’m freaking 23 years old.” So, I absolutely understand her decision and I cannot imagine the regret & heartbreak she has felt ever since.
Am I the only one who finds his dad's "well if you want to go, than you pay for your ticket" thing to be really shitty. Your son is having a hard time trying to find a job because of his disability, you don't joke when he doesn't have enough.
Maybe it's funny to Steven's dad, but to me it feels like adding salt to an open wound that say "haha, you don't have enough money to do fun things because nobody wants you for your limp."
I don't know, maybe it's also tasteless to me because his parents are the ones who didn't keep an eye on him and cause his disability as a result.
I know they weren't making fun of him for his disability, but his disability is the reason why he's strap for cash, because nobody in a workplace has the patience or funds to help with people with disabilities.
Definitely agree.
From the limited information I got on this case, pretty much everything we have seems to revolve around Steven's mother. She was there when he vanished and she was also there when he had the accident as a toddler. So my next question would be, was their relationship affected by this in any way? Was he holding any grudge to her?
I mean, toddlers spend their time around their mothers. The bathroom incident was a coincidence
For the police to think she never even went for her walk....surely there were sightings of the two walking on the beach ? & Surly when they first started to investigate people would have been questioned about those sightings? Especially being people who were well known. Very sad & bizzare, just mindboggling when these things happen & being an adult....even more mindboggling.
Always sad though .
I do not suspect the parents at all. I am disabled and on the days where I am capable of using the restroom without support, I know my other half or parents wouldn't come in and would've also assumed I walked on ahead when I got out and saw they were not there.
Please discuss the case of Sherry Lynn Marler. She disappeared in 1984. Thank you. Love your hair BTW.
This is baffling! I understand the mom wanted to Steven to have his independence, but she should at least asked someone or called out in the bathroom to see if he was there. Also did anyone even saw them together at the beach? Look, I don't want to suspect the parents, but this doesn't sit right with me.
This is coming from my perspective, but even when I'm with my parents and over the age of 20, I let them know that I'm going to the bathroom and they tell me where to meet them. If we're going to the bathroom the same time, we tell each other to wait outside for them. Hell, my parents and older sibling texted and knocked on the bathroom door one time when I took too long and we were at a restaurant and I was in my early 20's at the time.
Like I said, I don't want to suspect the parents, but I'm wondering if the police talked to witnesses and asked if they saw Steven and his mom at that day or the neighbors saw anything unusual outside of the house. I find it odd that there weren't any witness accounts of that day. Someone has to at least saw something.
What I find even stranger is how unsure the mother is about anything concerning this trip to the beach. But I agree that as someone older than Steven was back then if I went out with my parents they wouldn’t assume that I just left without a word.
That's exactly how I feel and the fact that she did not wait until he come out to go the restroom he could have come out thinking either she deserted him or that something happened to her and he went looking for her I think the mother is suspect at least speaking as a mother I would have never left anybody that I was with to go to the restroom until I can tell them where I was and then say y'all stay here I'm going to restroom I'll just take a minute or something to that effect that's where the issue starts having problems with me that she just had to go pee she couldn't wait another you know minute herself to wait till he came out the door and if he'd already taken too long I would have been at the door that restroom and I would have found some way to communicate with him to make sure what he was up to I wouldn't give him an hour or anything any amount of time over what I thought was reasonable
"I have NO EVIDENCE.... But I've got some feelings."
This is what it's like being an Aquarius 😅
Lol yes I'm aquarius too. And that's spot on.
He may have been in the bathroom still when the mom left and something happened as he walked back home alone. Maybe took a ride from a stranger.
It's very weird that they just decided his parents were suspects. If they had investigated them back then they could've questioned people to see if anyone saw them at the beach, etc.
I wonder did they speak to the two men with the young girl as they would be witnesses to the mum being outside and they would have been in the toilet to say If there was anything suspicious in there!
Caroline this was one of my questions too!
Well, the fresh pair of eyes obviously noticed something in the case files that the previous ones didn’t. But it is indeed an interesting question how well the parents and the circumstances were investigated back then. Is there even evidence (let it be DNA or eye witnesses other than his mother) that he was ever in that bathroom for example?
Well I can say one thing love gg3 I would have never left to go to the restroom until my son with mental and physical disabilities came back out of the men's restroom and I would have said Son stay right here I'm going to go in the ladies room I'll be right back don't go with anybody just stay right here until I get back and then we'll continue I would have never ever at a million years gone into that restroom until he knew I was in there and that was just to wait till he came out the mother is the number one suspect nobody's even saying this and I think that's the main thing you got to think like a mom at a mom would not have left her child I don't care what is ages physically he does not have mental abilities of a 23-year-old man because if he did he probably wouldn't have been going to the beach with his mom we've been going to the beach with his girl
@@karenking5357 He only had physical disabilities, not mental ones.
Wow the cops doing that to his parents that many years later is crazy. I hope they figure out what happened before his parents pass away.
I really hate to make a generalization but...some English ladies, of a certain age, and back then were quite "proper". Shouting in public or going into a mens' bathroom just might have been too uncomfortable, or considered inappropriate. I work with the elderly and they would have been horrified at the idea. I met my ex's mom in the 80's (in Canada, but she was from England) and she was a classic example.
PS even when I was younger, some hotels and bars still had signs for the "men's" entrance, and a separate one for "ladies and escorts" (even though they no longer applied). It's just not that long ago that some behaviours that we don't even think about now, were simply concerned inappropriate.
This is the most informative comment in the whole discussion. Americans tend to forget that England has a different culture, since we speak the same language. That's why I'm always thrown when UK true-crimers discuss knives as if they're guns.
Makes no sense that they would have waited until he's 23 to kill him!! The parents didn't do this! So very very sorry the parents had to go through that!! RIP Steven!!🙏💖🙏!
makes total sense, they're old parents and didn't want to be looking after a 50 year old dependant when they were in their 80s, he might have been violent to his mother he was a big lad, his mother is a liar anyway
I agree I don’t think the parents did it
You can think that, but there is something about them that left me sour.
Why not call out to him? She should've done it first, when she decided to go to the Ladies Room, to let him know, in case he came out at that moment, and didn't see her. When she didn't see him, upon returning, she should've called out to him again, letting him know she'd returned.
The LAPD needs to hire this mysterious woman who wrote that letter containing her revelations immediately!!!
Recent UK documentary stated she'd been traced, was unknown to/ had no knowledge of the family & her allegations had no foundation in fact.
Ummm what lol you're as crazy as the letter lady
@@havenburum1071 If you anything about L.A. it makes perfect sense.
This is a British case i remember it no mention of stephens possible girlfriend in the itv documentalary
Love your videos and the fact that you cover older cases. I would love to see you cover the 1927 case of 12 year old Marion Parker’s kidnapping and murder.
Did anyone check his disability payments regarding usage. He was going away so his parents would cease access to his payments...sorry i think the parents are involved
I think his parents were going to loose a lot of control...he was going out to the pub with a girl, but his mother waited? at the toilet and then worried? because he didnt come out but never checked?...i think they were losing control over him as he was going away and didnt eant that to happen
ok, i'm not hating on the parent's, but, their story does seem more of convenience. how long was his mother in the bathroom? how long was she waiting, before she went to the br? how long was she waiting after she got out of the br, before the three came and left? her not knowing precise times, is also convenient. wouldn't there have been witnesses to her and her son walking, that could verify her story? questions abound...
here's something else, that's stuck in my craw... you stated that the kid and his dad would go to a weekly soccer match, but, on this occasion, the dad told him that he had to pay for his own ticket, and, they joked about him being tight with his money. aren't they a bit insensitive to the fact that he's disabled, and had a hard time finding work? i mean, seriously, what family would joke about this? and, again, convenience takes hold:: why, on this particular day, did they want to make him pay for his ticket, knowing that, most likely, he'll refuse to...?
I personally think that he was the victim of someone who wanted to cause harm and saw Steven as a convenient victim because of his disability
I was thinking the same thing. Someone noticed his vulnerability and decided to take advantage. Sad.
"Listen.. I have a 🇫 🇪 🇪 🇱 🇮 🇳 🇬 ."
There's really no good excuse in my opinion to not checking the bathroom before going home. Given his walking difficulties, wouldn't he likely have taken longer than her anyway? With his medical needs, what if he'd fallen or suffered an accident? Did people actually witness the Mom and man out for a walk? How much time could have possibly gone by between their bathroom breaks? In my experience waiting for others, 1-2 minutes difference in timing tops. That would have had to be the fastest bad guy ever to locate him, swoop in, convince him to leave with them and get them far enough out of sight of the Mom in say 1-2 minutes, it's not logical even in the slightest.
Very odd case. I can't quite rid myself of suspicions about the parents, not that they actually did away with him necessarily but just that they are lying about something. So sad about Steven, hard start in life and then put his life together only for this tragic thing to happen.
All I can think is.. if his parents are guilty I hope they’re caught, but I’m just so unsure. I mean it’s strange about the lack of witnesses during the beach walk, the way she didn’t call him or go in to the toilet, the way that’s a very fast space of time for him to disappear. But I don’t think you would raise your child for 23 years to just end them.
What’s the reason? Was there ever a history of abuse or harm? Was he a financial ‘burden’ (hate using that term.). What would motivate them to do this?
What would motivate him to leave? I do think it’s more likely someone killed him and he hasn’t been found but I don’t know if I’d think it was his parents. This case is the first in a long time where I don’t feel a strong draw to one explanation. Does anyone have a good theory?
It was definitely the parents. I don't buy anything about their story. The dad having invited the son to an event, just to tell him at the last minute he has to pay in order to go? The mom never asking anyone exiting the restroom if her son was in there? That makes no sense whatsoever. He was a cheapstake and was going to live at home forever. They wanted rid of him. I think the guilt over his disability really got to the mom. And seeing it all the time and how it effected his life finally took it's toll.
Who’s the cheapskate? The dad or Steven?
@@carsfan1995 they said Steven was as that's why he supposedly didn't go to the soccer game with his Dad as he didn't want to blow money on that.
TOTALLY AGREE 👍💯
Appreciate your videos. Please keep up the great work. 🕵️♀️🤍If at all possible would you be able to do a video on the disappearance of the Martin family? The Martin family of Portland, Oregon disappeared on December 7, 1958 in the Columbia River Gorge during a day trip to gather greenery for Christmas decorations. Thank you.
This case is so baffling, nothing seems to make sense. I don't understand on what grounds the police arrested Steven's parents and executed a search warrant *after 28 year*, would that letter be enough? They had other evidence? Then why they waited almost three decades to investigate them? I know it was the 90s and Steven was an adult, but his disability should've raise more concern for the police to find him, and his family should've been investigated right away if there were any suspicions. I'm so confused!
Whatever happened, this is an heartbreaking story 💔
27:20 A family member is going through such, by a zealot DA. They will make your life miserable with "Feelings" about you, for years. It's they that determine your innocence until proven guilty here in the United States. NOT the Constitution. That agency is Unconstitutional!
No way! Saltburn is where I live 😅 I've been following this case, did not expect to see one of my favourite youtubers cover it!
Are there any caves around there near the beach that he could have got into?
@@kl2894 actually yes, but there hidden well or blocked up, they were well used during the smuggling era, and I doubt he'd get to the as there high up in the cliff faces too, also there in the opposit direction of the way he was seen walking
@@toniilousie6029 Thanks for the response. I appreciate it 😊
As someone who lives in the area and has been following this case for a longer time what is your theory? :)
Gabby,you did another great job with this case.I had read about Steven's case a few years ago.I honestly don't have any theories as to what happened to him.I sympathize with his parents(no,I don't believe that they killed him) but he's no longer living.There's no evidence to support this idea.I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea that maybe we was near that cliff near the ocean and somehow lost his balance and fell into the ocean.It's not definite that his body would have been found because those things happen frequently when water is involved.
They changed the football match story. Originally his parents said he'd gone to the match. Then they said he didn't because he couldn't afford the ticket He's obviously dead because his disability makes him easy to spot. He'd met a girl, was spending all his time at the pub & there'd been rows about him coming home drunk. He'd just got an apprenticeship. He's tall & heavily built, has one useless arm & a slight limp, but hes big enough that he could struggle or say no to someone propositioning him in the men's toilets ( the scenario his Mum sets up with her comment about child safety & 2 men taking turn using the toilets because they had a child). I think a row at home led to an accident they covered up.
Really? That’s very odd - but if he went to match did he not disappear from the beach in the original story?
@@z.z.1876 Initially they said he went to the match then went for the walk. Then they said he couldn't pay for a ticket to the match so didn't go. I feel a disabled son whose met a girl & is spending all his time at the pub & coming back drunk , prob means a row & a covered up accidental death. Mum is too keen, to me, to point out dangers to children safety re noticing 2men taking turns to go inside the toilets as they had a child with them . He's an adult, he has a girlfriend, so he's with it enough to tell anyone propositioning him where to go. He looks at least 6foot & heavily built too if they got lairy. Yes his arm is scrunched up, but his only other disability is a slight limp. He'd just won an apprenticeship award & got his first girlfriend, why would he up & leave or commit suicide?
I dont think the parents had anything to do w it. I'm sure the mom has regretted going to use the bathroom, instead of waiting for him, every single day.
These kinds of missing cases are just so sad and distressing to me. 💔💔
What if he came out of the restroom, seen the back of someone he thought was his mom & started following the wrong person? If that got him in with the wrong person/people... they could have done away with him.
It’s the WILD CARD nobody would think of. If they ever find out what happened, it’s gonna be something stupid like that.
It sounds like he came out of the bathroom whilst his mum was still in bathroom; and either followed someone, was taken against his will, or was lured away. And no one recalls seeing him come out is odd. I doubt very seriously he walked into a portal. Someone knows something.
I think his parents killed him. A dad not taking his son to sporting event doesn't sit right with me. He had a hard time getting a job and was saving his money . My father never let's me pay for anything. I have to but the tickets before he can. He loves me. 🙂. My husband father is the same way with him. He get upset if we spend money on him . He wants us to save money because we might need it. Maybe it's a southern dad thing. We are in our 40s . This kids was in his 20s the father not taken his son with him is fishy as hell.
Honestly I don’t think it’s fishy, but I still feel like it’s really crappy on the father’s part because it reminds how hard it is for people to get a job and he just adds salt to his kid’s feeling of inadequacy. Like, he doesn’t have enough money to buy a ticket because he’s a twenty-three-year-old with a physical disability and nobody wants to hirer him!
Like, at least telling him “no” would be less humiliating than saying “you have to buy your own ticket” when he is strap for cash.
Steven’s dad is a duck making a joke of his son’s financial issue because. It’s not his fault businesses or jobs don’t want to put in the funding to training or help someone with disabilities.
As far as I know, his parents aren’t struggling that bad if his dad can just go to a game Willy-nilly.
When I was growing up, working class people expected their 16 yr olds to be in work and contribute to the household finances, you were discouraged from staying on at school because your parents didn't want to fund you. So it wouldn't be that unusual, even though I stayed on I had to work in the evenings to buy my own stereo, clothes and toiletries. I'm 50 next year.
I don't necessarily feel like the parents had anything to do with his disappearance but idk something about the mom and her statements just gets me. You can't remember if you and your son left together or if you just met up and started walking the same way? And yes, I get she wanted her son to have his independence and not embarrass him like he's a 5 year old but she admitted to seeing at least two men come and go from the restroom. She could have easily asked one of them just to take a look while they were in there and let her know if he was there or not. No confrontation, no fuss, just a "yeah he was in there" or a "nope, didn't see him". Why just leave without doing anything?
Ok. He was 2 years old and followed is momma and got hit by a car. He was 23 years old and walked with his momma, and suddenly disappeared? Starts with is mother and ends with his mother?
"I have no evidence but I have a feeling"
Thank you so much for covering my case request! Let’s hope this video raises some more awareness! 💛
idk his mom sus he got hit by car with her and disappeared with her
@ Jake Brown, I was thinking the exact same.... something suss there.....maybe that girl did have a feeling ?
My thoughts exactly!
Me: this case happened the year I was born!
Gabby: he has now been missing for 28 years
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Ooh this just was uploaded watching now! Love your videos.
The amount of guilt both his parents must feel, (Dad not taking him to the game, n mom for using the restroom herself), I can't even imagine. Then they get arrested nearly 30 years later! Grrr That makes me so incredibly mad.
I don't think this case will ever be solved sadly. I myself think that he walked off n for some reason, his remains weren't found. It just seems like sometimes things happen, n we have no idea why or how it happened, just how it is. 🤔
Much love n prayers to his whole family n friends🙏💕
100% believe his parents done it, no prayers for them, they've constantly lied and cried non stop without shedding a single tear, both were ex coppers and knew what they were doing
Gabby, your flailing hands never bothered me. People sometimes talk with their hands. You are the bestest storyteller.🙏❤️
Lets not exaggerate.
To say this is a mysterious story about someone using a public restroom and then disappearing into thin air, is an under statement. I understand that Steven's mother didn't want to embarrass her son by going into the restroom to look for him, I still would have and also asked a male maintenanceworker in the area to check for Steven. Great investigating of this story as you always put alot of time and energy into your cases l. Take care 🦋
She could have asked 1 of the men that went in while she was there, there's not always necessarily a 'maintenance worker' around especially on a beach.
QTNA...1.) Did she for sure see him go in the bathroom? 2.) Why didn't she just go in the bathroom or at least shout his name ? 3.) I wonder if he just left shortly after his mom went to the restroom or kidnapped maybe?
Just starting the video - love the pink hair! 💜