The STRANGE Disappearance and HEARTBREAKING Backstory of Mindi Chambers | exclusive information!
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Today we discuss the nearly 4 decade old case of 17 year old Mindi Chambers, a girl who deserved much better out of life.
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The police failed her, starting from the time they didn’t look into her mother’s death. Then this happened.
They looked into it, but couldn't file charges because while the cause of death was listed as drowning, the manner of death was ruled inconclusive. Remember, this was 1968. They didn't have all the technical tools we have today at their disposal. The cops knew who did it but it was a matter of PROVING it in court.
@@fratercorleonis There are many people who were charged for way more but did way less. They could've tried. Humans are shit.
Good point Cherrybomb.
The Yonkers/Westchester Coroner failed Mary, Mindi's mother from the get go.
How did the father get custody of his daughter after being in jail for rape. This makes me so sick.
Sadly bcuz the justice system in America is horrible and more corrupt than people think 🥺🥺😢😢
Omfg. This girl’s Abduction was witnessed, and yet no police report was filed for 12 years? What the hell is wrong with people?
The clerk who witnessed it without calling it in should serve some time
Mesa PD has been garbage for a long time, but I didn't realize it was *that* long a time.
Did I catch that right? The guy at the gas station saw her being "forced" into a car and he didn't call the police??? Unbelievable!
@@amekatzs4612 well didn’t the clerk know the step-mom? Probably the dad too and it was a car just “like” his
I think Patricia let it go because she was more worried about her own children. If he had Mindi and killed her, chances were that he wouldn't be in touch with Patricia anymore. So as long as she didn't involve the police, he was fancy free. I really hope he suffered and was not killed immediately.
I was literally rescued the same year as Mindy went missing. Child protection was a joke even here in Canada back then. Neighbours would call the police saying i was being beaten. The police would tell her to do what she was doing more quietly. I was 6 at the time. My mother verbally and physically abused me while selling me to men for drugs as early as 2 or even younger. A couple if church people who suspected abuse befriended my mother and one day caught her slamming my face into a car door because i wanted to get my stuffed animal. They grabbed me and took me straight to the Childrens Aid, if hot for them this could have been me. My mother was entirely capable as she tortured and strangled me etc. Im so very fortunate i got to live. I wish Mindy was afforded that right also.
I am so happy to hear that you were rescued and I hope you are enjoying a wonderful life. No child deserves abuse - ever.
I’m so sorry you had to go through such a horrible thing that no child should EVER have to endure. Lots of love xo
I am so happy you survived. I wish you health and happiness
I am so sorry that happened to you. That's sad and horrible.
Thank you for sharing your story! I can’t imagine the trauma that she caused.
I'm married to Mindi's half-sister. Very well done and factual video. I'd say this is the definitive work on the subject. This is more comprehensive than even what the police have done or professional missing persons organizations. Bravo, Gabby.
Beautiful thing is how much her family loved her and tried to help. It sweet of you to write this to let those of us who are falling apart at this moment hearing her story. God bless all of you, you have an angel in heaven looking out for y'all for sure.
❤💙❤💙❤💙❤💙❤
Xoxo thank you for those words!
My deepest condolences 💕💐💕
I am so sorry for your loss. I hope that someday they find her for all of you.
Can u get a dna done
Rest easy, Kiddo. You are not forgotten. This is a heartbreaking, and necessary, story. We all need to know Mindi Chambers' name.💔
when police didn't take her mother's suspicious death serious enough, they set her up for this to happen.
So true!
If only they had kept him locked up a decade longer. She would have been too old to be forced to go back to him. My gratitude and sympathy to those who loved her and tried to save her. I'm sure she saw and felt that love. He was a monster who is hopefully suffering a most horrendous afterlife to pay for his crimes. May she rest in peace 💔
My wife is Mindi's half-sister. It was very traumatic for her to find out all of this about her dad 10 years ago. We are working hard to bring justice to Mindi, which at this point means finding her and giving her a proper burial.
Yes.Child molesters should be killed instantly.They never change and get out of jail and do it over and over.
The clerk saw her being forced into a car, that's kidnapping. Why didn't the clerk call the cops and report it? The clerk knew Mindi and her stepmom so when when they saw it they could tell the cops who was being kidnapped in their parking lot.
Literally the first thing I thought when she said that. Like you see someone get shoved into a car and don’t do anything? I get u gotta be safe but not even call the cops?
@@ZoeyBoyaner esp a kid.
@@jujube1013 especially when you KNOW the kid and therfore can be pretty sure she doesn't know the person in the car
My exact thought! This happens more often then not. Didn’t do anything about it. Not even the smallest help as to getting the license plate and phoning police themselves. Just wait until the police come asking. Smh unreal!
So many people don't want to get involved which translates to they don't care.
Why didn’t the store clerk call the cops? If I saw someone being forced in a car I would be suspicious af..
These kind of disappearances that go unsolved for years always sadden me.
Same. After the video ends I feel sadness. This girl didnt even have a chance. Not in her childhood and she would never make it to adulthood. She deserved a chance, absolutely horrible the hand she was dealt.
I'd say it's pretty well solved, the only loose end being where are her remains?
Maternal relatives are not just female relatives. Maternal relatives means relatives on your mother’s side. Paternal is relatives on your father’s side.
Thank you for explaining because I didn't know that.
I KNEW THAT!.......however.....thanks for CLARIFYING...what I ...uh...of COURSE....already knew.😒
Mitochondrial DNA is inherited from the mother. So only her mother’s sisters could supply a mitochondrial DNA match.
And her paternal half-siblings carry shared autosomal DNA.
Her mother's brothers too.
He killed her because she went to authorities
I am so saddened to hear what happened with Mindi. This should NOT have been allowed to happen. CPS constantly fails children. Waiting 6 months to talk to the molester. Then just let it go. All those other signs that were PRESENT before she ever went missing... SO FRUSTRATING! And FYI: Allen was a piece of sh*t... just needed to say that.
Yes. I reported my sister-in-law to CPS years ago and they did nothing. She often tells them(her 5 kids ages 6-16) that if the police or CPS ever finds out she hits them and verbally abuses them. They'll take them to a place where they'll separate them, will never see each other again and they'll r@pe them. With those words too. The 1st time I heard her say that, the youngest child was 4. This is infuriating. I can literally write a book of all the abuse and neglect. I don't go to her home anymore as I can't deal with that.
CPS is spending too much time going after decent parents on false reports, they're bogged down enough that real cases of abuse slip through the cracks, especially in the 80's.
I'm not the sort of person to wish harm on another, but that car accident couldn't have happened to a better guy. Poor Mindi.
Exactly.Karma.
I'm a AZ native and have never heard this one before. I really wish there was some way judges could be held responsible when they award custody of children to violent criminals and the children are harmed. Excellent video. Mesa is actually pronounced May-sa.
Thank you! I lived in AZ for a couple years while my parents were in the military and how Mesa was pronounced drove me crazy!
Your voice is so relaxing and clear!! I love the way you tell these stories 😆 thank you
wow, this guy is so horrible ... I really can't understand why he wasn't in prison forever after Mindis mother died ...
Yes. If what was said about the father true, it is very likely that Mindy would be alive today had she been taken out of that situation. Very tragic.
He was never charged for the murder, due to lack of evidence. That's why. He went to prison for attempted rape of an adult stripper whom he tried to grab while giving her a ride home.
@@fratercorleonis this was told in the video ... 😑 but its not like he had nothing on him.
I dont usually say things like this.. but I can't help but think that the way Allen died was the universe serving up some major karma for the horrible things he did/probably did to his wife and daughter.
At least 2 other of his daughters were also victimized.
I had the same thought...he killed (at least victimized her, we all know he did more) and then he was thrown out of truck and killed in a hopefully painful and horrifying way.
@@fratercorleonisI wondered since he had other daughters
That man was a monster and I'm devastated that he murdered both his wife and their daughter 💔😭💔
I'll NEVER understand why these men hold women hostage, treat them like objects, treat them like they hate them, abuse them in every possible way and then want to murder their hostage when they want to leave and be free!! Makes me SO ANGRY!! Especially that he was SA his own daughter!! And managed to manipulate his way through everything 😠😡🤬
I pray that Mindi's remains are found so that those who love her can bring her home and lay her to rest 💜💜💜💜💜💜
To the family: especially you who tried to be there for her and have struggled to rememberher, you did not fail Mindy. People like her father are manipulative, cunning people, and if even the police and the family court systems were taken in by him, then there is very little chance you could have stopped what was happening. She knew you cared. Try, please to take comfort in that. Peace to you, and to her memory
Well said. The people who cared for her tried, but the creature-father and the SYSTEM failed her. Unforgivably.
SEriously, a gal marries a guy who's been in jail for assault, and has a missing daughter. Totally nuts.
right and it happens so often its crazy. like how could you be with someone knowing what they did. disgusting
If she knew all this then its called being a loser and not having standards
Exactly.What was wrong with these two wives?
I remember this case, since I grew up in Tempe and am the same age as Mindi. The cops were infuriating in this era. They always sided with men. I also made a complaint about my father (for the same reasons) and was just quietly dismissed. As a girl/woman, it was almost impossible to get any justice.
I've been binge-watching you, Gabby, and love your extensive research! There's another case that was very close to me around this time. Pamela Newton was killed in 1978 in Mesa, AZ and her murder has never been solved. I have some newspaper articles from this time but I haven't found much out about it online. Needless to say, the Phoenix "metropolitan" area was a dangerous place for young women in the '70s and '80s. Kudos to you for not letting these victims be forgotten.
I’m so sorry you had to make complains about your shit father for the same reason. Your a strong survivor and a brave warrior ❤️💪🏻 I’m so proud of you for staying strong
Thinking of that monster in Austria who imprisoned his daughter in his basement dungeon, I wonder if Mindi's father didn't take her & lock her away somewhere, to molest at his leisure. Why else would he want her things? He could have kept her for years, even after his remarriage, & then after his accidental death, she might have simply starved to death wherever she was confined. It doesn't bear thinking about, but I have to say it sounds like his style. ⛓
sadly I agree with you, it does sound like him. I also think that if Patricia was lying about going to authorities or if she was telling the truth then Allan must of had connections with the local police. It sounds like the people in the town there weren't so friendly considering the guy from the circle k who saw her get abducted and knew her DIDNT CALL THE POLICE.
I thought the same.
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So tragic. 😢
@@callmewaves1160
Poor little girl. 😢
I thought the same as well. I don’t think he murdered her straight away. I think he beat her and ‘’punished’ her by keeping her locked away and using her how ever he wanted. She probably succumbed to this maltreatment sometime. He seems like the type.
Gabby, first of all this is a sad and perplexing case about, Mindi Chambers. It seems as though her father was involved with the murder of Mindi's mother and she told relatives that he sexually abused her. He shouldn't have gotten away with all of these heinous crimes that he was accused of and maybe, Mindi could have went on to have a happy and productive life. You did a great job investigating this case and also explaining it to your subscribers. Take care 🦋
How could so many adults in this girl's life fail her so badly? So very sad.
I feel so badly for her family. They tried. They tried to be there for her, they tried to give her the life she deserved.
I wish them peace.
You're such a beautiful person ❤
Oh thank you!
Sounds like her father wanted to make it look like she was alive so her could claim her social security benefits. She would have been entitled because her mom was dead.
It wasn't SS benefits, it was something else. But you're not far off the mark.
No. he didn’t want to go to jail for being a pos.
Please hit the thumbs up to help Gabby out.
With these advancements in DNA testing, I hope they can retest DNA. At the very least, I think they should retest the Jane Doe's DNA so that her true identity can be discovered, whether she is Mindy or not.
No need to - Allen was never in TX. He wasn't a truck driver at the time. DNA conclusively proved that Jane Doe isn't Mindi.
So you just hang up and that's it? You're off the hook just like that? Unbelievable. That guy probably got away with killing both his wife and his daughter with no consequenses, well except for a very deserving accident which killed him
An unfortunate but deserving, as no real justice or a chance to find out what happened.
I have never heard of this case before and I'm glad you covered it. I'm inclined to believe that her father was the reason she went missing. I'm also inclined to believe her stepmother did do what she said about Mindi's belongings. I hope her loved ones find closure.
Nothing good comes from Arizona I swear.
This felt like hearing Alissa Turney's story...times a hundred.
Came here to say this
Hey, Arizona is beautiful. Also, Mesa was mis pronounced a bunch of times here.
something that doesn't sit right is the fact that the guy from the circle k who saw her get abducted and even knew her DIDNT CALL THE POLICE OR INTERVINE. He said he saw her being FORCED into a car, he knew this girl and couldn't be bothered to call the police.
Unless the guy from the store KNEW the driver of the car was the father... if he knew Mind I and her Stepmother, then it stands to reason he knew the father.
But even so, why didn't he say something at the time? Didn't want to get involved? Was frightened of the father?
@@jacquiedwards160 if he knew the father he probably knew why Mindi was with her step mother maybe not exact details but at the very least that he wasn't a Good person, so that alone should have at the very least had him calling
Cops are to blame for not investigating that monster further which is not surprising. That monster got away with murder(s). We hear this so many times with many many cases like this one.
Cops not to blame for the murder, they simply didn't have evidence. Can't go charging people without evidence. As far as Mindi's disappearance goes, somebody dropped the ball. Just because someone has run away before doesn't mean you don't look into their disappearance.
So sad. I hope she is a peace. For the father, one has to believe that he received punishment for his crimes in another realm.
Can you please cover the case of Tair Rada? It's a really complicated unsolvable murder of a teenager in her high school. It happened in Israel and I'd love to help you with translation. ❤
Send this to her email address. That is where she sees most of her case requests. She has her email listed in the description box. 😁
@@chelseapthib36 thank you!
You're very welcome 😁
Gabi, blessings x 1000 for doing this case. And much love to Mindi's family -- you were hobbled from helping because of laws upholding parental guardianship. You cared and still care today and you helped research some missing info. I pray that some day you will learn what happened to Mindi and have some closure.
Gabi can I ask you do the 100 year old murder of Little Mary Phagan? Ive had a connection to this case since I was in the musical based on this case in school. Her great niece has a website based on the case.
Send this to her email address. That's where she sees most of her case requests. It is in the description box 😁
j seen the movie about her murder
Mary Phagan was murdered by Leo Frank, but for PC reasons some are trying to exonerate him.
@@chelseapthib36 thanks!
@@sherrita80548 theres also a musical called parade on it. I was in it. Not the one on broadway of course. They tried to make Leo seem so innocent though and the more research I do the more I think he was guilty. Even just the look in his eye. Reading quotes he made about black people he sounded like an awful racist person too. In the musical it made it seem like his wife stuck by his side when in reality she asked not to be buried with him when she died.
I have to go make peace with RAGE now. Wow. Great presentation,as always. Thanks for having so much compassion.🙏🏻✌🏼
may Mindi rest in peace & may her family find peace.
Hi Gabby this is a very sad and tragic story. Too many predators back in the day. Hope you stay well and safe 🙏
Hell theirs too many predators today .
@@Lynn-zx3th absolutely!
Poor Mindi. I feel so bad for her and her family. I feel awful for her mother, too. I hope Mindi is found soon so that her family can have answers.
This kind of reminds me of Alissa Turney's case... a girl goes missing after years of abuse from her father... Alissa will be getting justice relatively soon as her father has been charged but Mindi's case won't. So sad
I love your heart. You have so much empathy. ❤️
The store clerk should have called the police. How the father got away with so many crimes is baffling. RIP sweet angel and hope her family takes comfort that she’s reunited with her mother.
I made it within ten seconds!!! OMG OMG!! Edit: damn this is so heartbreaking. I hate when someone is almost saved & then at the last second, the evil person gets the upperhand. I believe her father's widow knows some shit but is refusing to talk. I feel so bad for her family...
His widow is very hard to get information out of. Best we can tell, she didn't hook up with him until after Mindi's disappearance.
The Police failed this girl and her mom ☹. Praying for the family
Mindy Chambers. You are somebody. I will never forget this story. So horrible, and shameful on police department individuals. Miracles do happen and hopefully God sends it. Praying for family who cared for Mindy.
Gabby, you did a great job on this. This was one of the most confusing cases I have ever heard. I'm not sure, well, I know that I could not comprehend it all. Regardless, the answers still need to be found as to where she is, what exactly happened to her, and at least given a proper burial if that is the case. She should not just be forgotten about. They need to get the answers.
My condolences to Mindi’s family. You fought with everything you had to protect her, and are still fighting for a resolution. It’s clear to me she was and is loved.
Thank you for bringing awareness to the cases that no one pays attention
Wow, this has really touch me. I So SORRY MINDY! You are not forgotten. WALK IN BEAUTY. Your loved ones AS Well. BE BLESSED. THANK YOU, MISS GABBY. You are so kind to remember these little ones who have gone like smoke in the wind. BE BLESSED ALWAYS.
Solved, no. Her father dealt with, yes. God is the final and worst Judge for unrepentant sinners to face.
Thank you for this video! As always, you did a great job!
If she was only 86 pounds at the time she disapeared i dont think she would be wearing a size 9 in pants.I would think maybe a smaller size. so i dont think it was the doe.
Thank you for caring for these missing people. I can just tell what a beautiful woman Mary and beautiful girl Mindy were. Its ashame such an evil man was able commit such crimes against his own wife and daughter and get away with it. Luckily he himself could not escape death or the punishment he will face before God!
This case reminds me so much of Alissa Turney’s case. 🥺
Love the eyeliner. If this was in Arizona they pronounce Mesa as MAY SAH. This case was heartbreaking. My own daughter has passed now, but when I think of her at age 12 she was a total child. Some people say, "Well, she was almost a teenager," but my daughter was a lot closer to 11 than she was to being 13. For Mindi, at that tender young age and living with a monster, with nobody to turn to, she must have been terrified. I think we need to re-evaluate how we punish people who rape, torture or murder children. People who do that are not going to change into model citizens and if they get away with it they're going to do it again to some other child. The law should be that if you murder a child you get a mandatory death sentence. A child's whole life will be scarred from abuse like this, they may wind up addicted to drugs or involved in prostitution or suicidal, so these perpetrators need to be in jail for much longer sentences for all the pain and suffering they are causing. If they are released they need to be under DAILY scrutiny from a probation officer, wear a leg monitor, adhere to a strict 8 pm curfew and take random drug/alcohol tests.
If a man is found guilty of rape, WHY would he being a childs father automatically be awarded custody when he comes out of prison?
A parent found guilty of rape shouldn't be awarded custody of their children..
The 70s and 80s were a VERY different time people were so ignorant of dangers I feel sorry for so many kids and people who slipped through the cracks of the police and system.
He wasn't found guilty of rape, but attempted rape, of an adult stripper. I reckon that made it different in their minds back then. Also, he took possession of his daughter in a different state - AZ. He did his prison time in NY.
I love the totally solved and wrapped up cases! I will watch this one because I trust you! I have to hear what ya have to say! Thanks for the entertainment and thought provoking topics.
Great job telling her story! Soo sad! Also, Mesa is pronounced MAY-SA. I was born in Mesa (Maricopa county)
Yes!
It never ceases to amaze me that someone will literally watch someone get abducted or harmed and won’t do anything about it but tell the police LATER. When they come asking. Smh unreal. Then to file her case as a runaway when there was a witness to the abduction. COMPLETELY unreal!
This is a tragic mess ..
Mindi's family is to be commended for never giving up!
Prayers for Strength!🙏🙏🙏
That being said, I'm also curious about the doe in Vidor ( pronounced Vy-der).
That is a scary and mysterious community 😳..being from Texas, I'm aware of the tight lipped area where the doe was found..I hope 🙏 she gets her name back😔.
Thank you for another great job with bringing awareness!💓
The Jane Doe in TX isn't her.
@@fratercorleonis I understand that the Vidor doe isn't mindi, I'm just saying, we don't know who the doe is and I hope she gets her name back. 😔
Found your channel because I saw a comment you left on one of Kendall Rae's videos and subscribed that same day!
This is such a sad and definitely tragic story. What an evil man. I really hope Mindi is found.
Such a sad story. Very respectfully done, Gabby
He sure loved to get married and have kids.
He was in jail for rape and I am thinking why would any woman want to marry and have kids with a guy who was in jail for rape knowing that he could do that to their kids like he did to mindi
@@joleneschmidt6092 guys like that know very well how to charm people.
@@joleneschmidt6092 Gotta keep in mind, they didn't have the internet back then. No way for the subsequent wives to know. My own wife (Mindi's half-sister) didn't even know!
7:36 You know what that is? That's a police department not wanting to do the work necessary. Not wanting to file the paperwork, to gather and contact resources to prove the case. It's scary to think how many people get away with serious crimes because police departments don't give a flying fuck.
I'm curious about I believe her name was Patricia the one she was staying with if she never reported it missing persons file which you should have or if it was reported she didn't turn things over to the police department when she said she did that's too inconsistency I wonder if she had anything to do with Mindys disappearance
Not likely. She tried to report it but since Mindi had run away before, the cops dropped the boll and wouldn't allow a report to be filed at that time.
Patricia told the police all about it and assumed they were making a report, but they did not make a report.
Fabulous, a new video and I'm so early. Thank you. I'm listening to this as a bedtime story.
How many kids did this Alan have? N wouldn't her mom's aunts know if Mary was cremated? Maybe the half sister wasn't Alans or maybe Mindi wasn't Alan's child?
Thinking the same thing.
I was unable to speak to any of Mindi’s aunts about the case but even if Mindi’s mother was not cremated, it would take a bit of work to exhume her body to test DNA and the family is not convinced the Jane Doe is Mindi to begin with.
I'm married to Mindi's half-sister. Our daughter looks very much like Mindi. Doubtful that Mindi wasn't his daughter. Furthermore, even if she wasn't, she'd still match the mother's sister, and the Jane Doe was no match.
@@gabulosis It's almost 100% certain that Jane Doe isn't Mindi. The possibility that it could be her was based solely on the false idea that Allen had been a truck driver then. I asked his widow, my mother-in-law, point blank about it and she said he was unemployed at the time. He didn't become a truck driver until much later.
This is so infuriating...the system fails too many people too often.
Jeez when I heard Tempe AZ...that hits close to home... I never heard of this case, but I would have been 2 years old at that time...thank you for sharing this story, you always share these cases with such love and compassion.
Wow this hit so close to him gab I'm from Yonkers I live in Yonkers this case is still talked about to this day ! Wow you really did justice to this case 👏
can we all say that child "protective" service is worthless?
Allen has such an evil look in his eyes in that family portrait...
In his wedding photo too.
As always, you did a beautiful, respectful job covering Mindi's case.
My prayers and thoughts are with her family. I hope they receive some type of answers. Mindi was a beautiful young lady.
Gabby, my jaw hit the ground as soon as the story began. I do believe that her Father was responsible for all of this. The tragedy is that we may not have the answers. That would be the biggest justice right now for Mindi and her surviving family. To know what actually happened. I hope one day, they can bring closure to this case.
I got completely lost with this story. And I don't me lost in a good way. Like lost as in "mesmerizing". Damn you ADHD... damn you to Hell!
Hello again, darlin'! Certainly missed that beautiful face and soothing voice 😁❤
Love that lip color on you, makes your eyes pop!
So glad to have another video from ya! 🤗😍
thank you for finally doing this case with us ! since i remembered i emailed u this case years ago and i see you finally did it thanks i guess
Mesa is pronounced "May-sa". Maricopa is the county. My neighborhood. The place she disappeared from is just west of a large (incredibly beautiful) desert wilderness area (Superstition Mountains, Tonto National Forest, Roosevelt Lake).
I hope Allan didn't mess with his three other daughters.
No, it's not. It's a Spanish word pronounced more like Meh-sa
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I looked into the pronunciation and I saw a few people fluent in Spanish say it is pronounced "Meh-sa".
@@minstac1530, you can choose to say it whatever way you want to, but I live here, and I know how Mesa residents pronounce the name of their city. The E sounds like a long A in Spanish. The word means "table". I spelled it like that because it is the easiest way to convey the sound to an English speaker.
@@gabulosis, I think the difference is that the first syllable is heavily stressed in the city name. As a result, it is stretched longer than if you were just saying the word "table" in Spanish. Names are weird like that. I know of a street name, Eldorado, pronounced "El-do-ray-do" (IL), and another Germann, pronounced "Jer-main" (AZ). Sometimes it may be due to history or evolution of the word. Just trying to help. "Mesa" stood out to my ear because that it not how I am used to hearing it said. To each his own.
Thanks for the video. Concise, but with just the right amount of detail. My heart goes out to the family. I hope they get resolution.
@@shawngross5420 Whether I pronounced it either way, I would still have someone tell me I pronounced it wrong. It’s a lose/lose situation that I think is so impeccably small compared to seriousness of the topic discussed in the case. Thank you though for the kind words.
I CLICKED SO FAST!
A really clear presentation Gabi! Thank you. It is easy to see how complex it is, so you did a wonderful job in presenting it in an easily understood format. I sincerely hope Mindi's relatives get the answers they so richly deserve.
Couldn't Mindi's half sister on her father's side have been fathered by another man? Maybe that's why the mom had that daughter offer DNA, knowing it wouldn't be a match?
His half-sister did indeed have a different father. Allen's father was William J. Spencer and his sister was the daughter of Thaddeus Quentin Alexander.
SICK! It was the 1970's NOT THE 1870's!! Her father regains custody after a rape charge?
I’m suspicious of Patricia’s involvement in what happened to Mindi. As soon as you said the clerk at the gas station was Patricias friend I thought he could be lying or involved in Mindis disappearance. Why didn’t Patricia ever file a missing persons report ? It all seems so strange 🤔
There’s so many bothersome things about this case. This poor girl could have been saved SOOO many times! The police and child protective services failed her miserably. Poor Mindi 💔 The other tragic thing is the father dying instantly instead of suffering! 🤬 He got away with so many terrible things on earth I hope he pays for it for eternity! This case is heartbreaking. Love your videos Gabby! Love how you bring old cases to light! Keep it up!
I heard Yonkers, NY and quickly paused this idk if I’m ready . Never listened about a case so close to home ..
and ofcourse she lived 4 minutes away from me
I lived not far from Yonkers as well, the home is about 10/15 minutes from where my location was. I might just have to drive by when I visit again.
@@gabulosis I’ma make my husband drive by with me lol 😂
@@gabulosis I’m Richie & Kali’s daughter. She submitted DNA in 2008, but no one contacted her with results. Kali and I would like to follow up with you. Thank you for your thoughtfulness covering Mindi’s story.
both the mother and the daughter were failed by the police. this was so heartbreaking 💔
The clerk was a friend of Patricia, but we don't know how much Patricia had told the clerk about family details. The clerk may have known too much but not enough. The clerk likely knew Mindi's father, Allen, was forcing her into a car. If the clerk had not recognized Allen he would likely have called police. Or, if the clerk had known Allen's full background he likely would have called police. But if the clerk had only limited knowledge, what he saw was a dad putting his child in a car over the child's objections. It wouldn't help that Mindi was so small that she would have looked much younger than she was. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
Not having an answer is probably the worst thing for family.
I hope they get an answer some day
It can't be the same girls..but I vaguely remember 2 sisters in school with us briefly in Connecticut. The older girl was Mindii and she had a younger sister named Misti. Maybe some other siblings..I can't remember a last name. She had reddish brown hair. it was probably the mid to early 1970's. Of course it could be another family..but it did kind of give me goosebumps.
I’m not trying to shit talk the half mother but if there are relatives on the maternal side she could have been tested against I’m not sure why they decided to test her against her half sibling. There is always a chance no matter how small that it might not have been the mans child. In my mind it would make more logical sense to test someone from the mothers side because mindy physically came out of her and it’s a guaranteed relation. On the other hand with a half sibiling you just have to take the word of their parents that they were faithful and it was his sperm that created that child. For a birth certificate the father just has to sign it and that’s it and many times that has been proven to be false and just that signature isn’t enough to get custody from the mom of the child but somehow it’s enough to completely rule out a Jane doe??
This breaks my heart. I hope this angel is resting in peace and with her mother. We won’t forget you beautiful ❤️
This is such a heartbreaking story, I hope they can find her & give her the justice she deserves.
Two things 1) Truck crash...nice one karma 👌 2) Does anyone in America ever stay married ? I've listened to probably well over 100 true crime stories and in pretty much all the ones from the US it seems that the story starts "thier parents split up in.....". Or " the stepmother/father".
Well I am from America...and have been married once for 33 years! You do make a good point though. The United States has one of the top divorce rates in the world. (I think Russia leads the way). Nearly 50% of all first time marriages in the U.S end in divorce. And that rate goes up and up with a second and third marriage. I am certainly not an expert on the subject....but I spent many years working in a state prison system and the number of folks who end up in prison from broken marriages is staggering. I am sure they have more drug use and emotional problems too. Well my folks had been married for 60 years when my Dad passed away so maybe I had a good example to follow! Just an opinion but I believe that the most important factor when getting married is by far compatibility. Far more important than money,looks,sex or what have you. Anyway I will get off my soap box. Have a nice day!
@@ynp1978 Thanks for the info !Have a good one 😊
My parents were married 28 years before my dad passed. It was a Rocky marriage. I'm married almost 7 years. I know it's not much but I'm Catholic and I'm very blessed. Divorce rate is very high is the USA.
My parents have been married for 47 years.
Can you do a video on the Garden State Parkway murders please? I'd really love to see someone with some reach like you cover it! I know that as far as sources go there's been a book written about it, and there should be some older articles somewhere online. I live right across the street from the Inn where the girls, Susan and Elizabeth, were staying right before they died so I feel close to the case. I'd just really love to see this case get some attention!
Submit it to her email address in the description. She will have a much better chance of seeing it there.