Looking Back on the Campaign, and Forward for the Country | Vivek Ramaswamy | EP 440
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- Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with 2024 presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy to discuss the recent suspension of his campaign, how he fought the traditional media’s best advances against him, who he is endorsing now, and the American values he seeks to defend going forward.
Vivek Ramaswamy is an entrepreneur, author, and political activist. Vivek has been making headlines since announcing his candidacy for the 2024 presidential election, running on a platform in part to dismantle the expansive and corrupt bureaucracy that has seeped into nearly all facets of American government. Prior to this, Ramaswamy was the founder and CEO of the biopharmaceutical company Roivant Sciences. Leaving in 2021, he published “Woke, Inc.: Inside Corporate America's Social Justice Scam.” In 2022, he co-founded Strive Asset Management with Anson Frericks, which focuses on an alternative to the now-pushed ESG investment framework. That same year Ramaswamy published “Nation of Victims: Identity Politics, the Death of Merit, and the Path Back to Excellence”
and has since been deemed one of the “Intellectual Godfathers of the anti-woke movement.”
This episode was recorded on March 27th, 2024
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(0:00) Tour update 2024
(0:43) Coming up
(1:07) Intro
(2:29) From business to politics, what prompted the change
(6:34) Launching the campaign
(9:12) The surprising level of marketing necessary for politics
(12:30) Dean Phillips, shut out of the system
(13:24) Getting on the map: non-traditional media
(15:00) Appearing on The Don Lemon Show
(18:36) How to fight “gotcha journalism” and going viral
(24:16) Unexpected success and the problems it created
(26:37) Why the corporate media is “not yet irrelevant”
(29:58) The Atlantic lied
(43:15) Preparing for the first primary debate
(49:34) Front and center, how the public responded
(58:50) The archetype of a leader
(1:11:04) The political industrial complex: reform or destroy?
(1:15:44) A potential danger, the dragon which eats its own tail
(1:22:49) Why Vivek endorses Donald Trump: “He actually cares about the country”
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Vivek is the first candidate I've seen who has that rare combination of intellect, spirit, leadership, and optimism. We need him in 2028.
Guess you haven't heard of RFK huh
@@DrkstrXrfk is not in same field as Vivek.
@@DrkstrXwhy did RFK pick a WEF disciple as a running mate? That ended his chances for a lot of people
@@87skr66 why don't you ask RFK and not me lol
@@rally6824Anchor ⚓ Baby Vivek is believes in a fake Hindu God 😢 how can anyone be so naive
I hope that Vivek does eventually become US president. The second I see him at the ballet box, I’m voting Vivek
The rubes will never vote for a Hindu... 😂
As apparent by the "Judeo-Christian" dog whistle by Jordan even in this pod 🤣
I just loved how Vivek totally avoided that convo 😄
yea, you and the rest of the Ai chat bots.
@@Mike-zr9xg I assume you're a trump cultist. You're in no position to talk about being an "AI chat bot".
@@abdullahnisar2219 Im actually not a fan or cultist of any human political leaders. Thanks for trying bot.
Me too
Vivek is the first Republican that I've earnestly respected and hoped to see win. I'm young so I'm sure I'll find more, but I just hope Vivek knows that his campaign had a real impact on a lot of people.
agreed: Vivek is good news for the future of US politics
He is the only presidential candidate short of Ron Paul that I have ever felt genuine excitement for and I consider myself a fairly anti-government voluntaryist.
Why on Earth would you trust this guy? His primary motivation is overtly selfish. He is cleverly seeking to replicate the Trump model of marketing and profiting from the soft target now identified. His “ideas” are irrelevant.
Don’t hold your breath. Been old enough to vote for 15 years and he is only number 2 for me…
Me too. I switched parties because of him
My 9 year old son LOVES Vivek. He watched him in all of the debates and listened to him on podcast episodes. He decided to do storytelling this year, and he acts like Vivek to bring out his elevated storytelling abilities. He won first trying to imitate Vivek’s charisma. He’s an inspiration to little boys. Thank you Vivek.
The POWER of a Good Example
Bless you :)
Bless your young boy for choosing the right role models in this difficult world of ours. I hope your child goes on to become one of tomorrows leaders.
From someone who has become disillusioned with our very young people today .
Thank you for sharing that with us. It was inspirational.
God bless you and your family .
YES!!! Vivek!! Your enthusiasm has been planted a SPECIAL SEED of GOOD!!! 💗🇺🇸💗🇺🇸💗🇺🇸🙏🇺🇸🙏🎁🇺🇸🙏🎁🇺🇸💗🇺🇸
This pod cast IS AWESOME!! A LIGHT in the DARKNESS! AMEN. 🎁💗🕊️
Vivek for VP 2024!!!!!
I agree100%!
Tulsi would bring more independents and ex-Democrats to Trump's side
@@renatow.8655absolutely
@@renatow.8655Didn't she dismiss it?
An alpha doesn’t make another alpha his VP. Sorry. It just doesn’t work that way.
Please run in 2028. I WILL VOTE FOR YOU!!
So will I.
❤❤❤ Vivek! Don't give up. The US needs you.
Amen. 🙏
@@LMGphilanthropy says Amen to a non-Christian like Anchor ⚓ Baby Vivek is a sin 😢
@@patrikbeeyour a TROLL no one cares what you think 🖕🧌
@patrikbee *sigh* how boring...pls do better. 🤦🏼♀️
@patrikbee waa waa did my other comment offend you 😭😭So you reported me. And you didn't watch the video he is a Christian.
Vivek should know that millions of us disillusioned voters found hope in his open campaign style and fact driven platform. We all hope he started a change towards honesty in future presidential campaigns. Well done and please try again Vivek!
We do love "The Fighter" in you, Vivek, Please stick around.
I am an independent (and I lean left), but I like that Vivek is ideologically consistent, and I like his uniting message for citizens on both sides of the political spectrum. Plus, he’s willing to engage in discussions with people on both sides of politics. That, to me, is an important competency for a political candidate. I hope Vivek runs in 2028 - I would vote for him.
Thanks for yet another great interview, Dr. Peterson!
I really enjoy your content. You’re a necessary voice in this space and I appreciate you sharing your expertise and thoughts with your viewers and your guests, AND you allow your guests to do the same. I also love the way you engage with people on both sides of politics and others issues, too. You really encourage a growth mindset in your viewers through your content and I feel like I learn something new every time I watch a video of yours (or when I come across a lecture of yours). God bless you, and your family! ❤
That was always what encouraged me about Vivek, is that reasonable people will set the "R vs D" nonsense aside, and actually listen to the points he's making. A term as VP would set him up great for a 2028 run, but more importantly, it would keep his voice active in the political sphere until then (though I'm sure he could keep his voice active in any role that he plays... people love having him on their shows, podcasts, etc.).
I ditto.... XLNT!!!
really? he just comes across as a slimy used car salesman. Notice how he always talks in slogans but never really goes deep on any particular issue.
@@BDKoalaofcourse he uses slogans often, it's literally unavoidable in a political race.
But I disagree with your claim. I believe Vivek goes very deep quite often within a podcast format, somewhat dependant on who the host is and where they steer the conversation ofcourse.
If you want to hear Vivek speak with alot of depth in explaining and supporting his policy and perspectives I highly recommend listening to Vivek's first appearance on Brett Weinstein's podcast or any of the podcasts he has done with Dave Smith.
The right is basically the left 10 years ago, and the left today is pure evil authoritarians
Vivek is truly one of a kind - down to earth, relatable, and a blessing to everyone around him.
All others get told what to do.
A man for the people.
I love that he has an actual vision
Only politician that has ever compelled me to donate and really start to care about politics. He actually inspired me in a way I didn’t think was possible within the modern political sphere. We need drastic changes to the government in order to oppose tyranny.
I had the exact same feeling. I've actually only found 3 mainstream influential people in my life who have compelled me to donate my hard earned money to. Elon Musk Tim Pool and Vivek Ramaswamy. I will support all 3 of them any way I possibly can.
Enthusiastic Vivek campaign supporter here 🙋🏻♀️ ~ You did a tremendous job Vivek!!! 👏🏼 No one gets anything 100% right. Our country NEEDS what you are bringing to the table! Hoping & praying you continue to be involved 🙏🏼❤️🇺🇸
Vivek is an immensely impressive human. Wonderful to see an equally impressive human conversing with him. Thanks Jordan.
The only problem I have with him is he acts like an actor. What do you think?
@@hisnameisiam808 you're right, it's your problem :)
@@privacyfig ok bot
@@hisnameisiam808 "bot"? I would've gone with "troll"
@@hisnameisiam808no matter who the person is you will have a issue with them… no one is perfect but some are better than others. And to get president you have to be certain amount actor as most of the US has too short a attention stance for long term stuff.
I myself do not watch T.V. that being said after watching this podcast. This young man fills me with HOPE for my COUNTRY !!! And this is the first time I have listened to him. He resonates with my SPIRIT. God bless you Vivik and God bless the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA !!!
Vivek has a great way a speaking clearly and quickly. I could, and have, listened to him speak for hours.
And he is very likeable and empathetic.
Vivek, take over infrastructure. Unleash the technology that’s being held back. Make America the world leader in quality of life again.
These two among select group of people out there that gives me hope for the future
... That will never happen. It's clear to see it can't get broken through this way. Change will only come by fire
@@50_Pence hopefully a cleansing fire and not a destructive fire
Tate, Elon, Alex who else?
@@captaindanger13 fire is fire, my guy
Vivek and Peterson, thank you for a great conversation. May God Bless you both.
I'm not republican, not even american but vivek is really smart and likeable
I as well, think the same of Vivek. I wish him success.
If you like Vivek chances are you are "republican" in your philosophy without being "Republican" ...they are not the same and while you are not american you are in good company if you dont know the difference.
Vivek is like a meteorite streaking from the outer space, drilling the sharpest arrows of words into the minds of Dr. JBP's audience. 😱😍👏
There's something about these two.. together. Jordan seems so proud of Vivek always, and amused of his intellect.
Vivek deserves the VP spot more than anyone else
Yes he does!
But sadly he won't be selected. That's how politics work.....was hoping Vivek for VP.
Mr. Future President, I hope! It doesn't matter your age. Your brilliance was easily way ahead of everyone there. Keep going, don't give up you are an incredible Human being that the country needs.
The truths and honesty you shared are the right path.
Saw Vivek at the UFC on Saturday 💪 😎
Did you take pics? Are you on X?
UFC 300.. that's one hell of an introduction to the UFC lol good for him
Did he win? Lol
@@logangodofcandy saw him thru the fence several times. He was sitting like 3-4th row. But his jimmy neutron hair was a dead giveaway.
Vivek did an amazing campaign, doing more town halls, live streaming every moment, answering everyone's questions, allowing protesters to his rallies, transiting through bad weather conditions.
Amazing commitment, if Trump was not there, he would have won it.
I love Vivek. He had my vote early on. 2028, he has it sowed up.
Ramaswamy is the man. Much respect.
Two of my favorite intellectuals are having a conversation. Perfection.
I love Vivek. He's the best.
Vivek is simply intellectually and spiritually powerful. His presence overwhelms in all aspects. Not too dissimilar from JP. Thanks for the conversation.
Kinda bums me out that he suspended his campaign. I really liked the idea of a Vivek presidency.
He ended as the runner-up; that is impressive in-and-of itself
I have so much respect Mr Ramaswamy and best wishes to him and his family ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Two of my favorite men. Been looking forward to hearing from Ramaswamy, and who better to speak with than JBP?
It's not just the US that needs Vivek. The world needs him to set an example.
Exactly my friend!
Vivek is just getting started. Those of us who support him will have to have some patience. But he’s on the path to be President one day. This country needs him.
If we have a country left in 2028.
Not American but I love Vivek and so pleased to see him intervewed by JBP.
Uh, he was born in the US so yes - he is.
@@ddgt8920 Hi! I think the person that posted the comment meant they themselves are not America...at least that is how I read it. Be well! 💗
This is their third interview, first two were during Viveks campaign.
Sure wish I had him as a choice this November. More than ever, I believe that he does want to restore the constitution and founding principles. That is what we need. I guess we just have to hope we get him in four years. I would sure be more comfortable with my vote for Trump, if he was the V.P.
Vivek really is like a more polite and polished Trump. All the talk about not preparing but just rolling up the sleeves and just going in fighting it so Trump lmao. But thats what the American people love. Reminds me of Patton's speech about how America loves fighters and winners.
Tbh, I see trump as the populist champion of the liberty minded right, whereas Vivek is the liberty minded candidate. Trump has always been at least partially influenced by and motivated by by his base, and it’s his base that he truly cares for as a father figure and is willing to be a figure head for that base. Whereas Vivek is a more traditional leader who just happens to agree with that base very strongly and won’t stop his agenda even if that base turns on him or fades away
Thank you Dr Peterson for interviewing the 2028 Presidential elect
imagine how much more intelligent and savvy vivek would be at jordan's age..godd dam!
I loved how he basically provided (mostly) 24/7 access during the primaries which i think was unheard of.... I miss him 😂
I printed a picture of Vivek debating Don Lemon and took it to a campaign rally of his and he signed it for me 😂😂😂
Dr. Peterson can you add these Vivek episodes into a playlist so as you all check in every 4 months there will be a playlist of the episodes that we can watch and follow. This should be a great journey!
The enthusiasm for conversation in Vivek never disappoints.
We ❤ Dr Jordan Peterson!!!!!
Trump 2024!!!! Vivek 2028!!!
We love you Vivek and we’re thankful as hell to have such an erudite, intellectual republican fighting for the cause of liberty. ❤️
“My plans are stupid”. There is a realistic take on life in general. Humans aren’t very good at predicting the future.
You go Vivek! You have my support and I am excited to see how you progress in the future of politics. I am often very disturbed, even as young 30 year old, of where this nation is headed. I am a student of history and I particularly enjoy learning about ancient civilizations and the American Revolutionary period and the Early Republic era. I highly doubt you or Mr. Peterson will see this comment, but I really get where you're coming from with the enlightenment and revolutionary inspirations.
I no longer want to live in fear and I've realized there's no "one size fits all" way to solve all the problems this country has. But this open dialogue really matters and does break barriers.
Thank you.
Love to hear two brilliant people have an interesting exchange. Two of the smartest men of our time.
This is fantastic… no two people I’d rather listen to right now
I hope to see Vivek find a home in the upcoming Trump government.
He's brilliant, I wish we had the hope to have such people to represent us in my country.
What I love most is the self awareness and soberly accurate depiction of how his campaign progressed. As a fan, he’s right on the money
I’m very excited! I’ll happily travel to the US to see you! 🙏🏻❤️
I will be at the May event in Richmond VA
Always a pleasure to watch Dr. Peterson’s interview.
Viva Vivek! Thank you, Dr P.
1:06:25 I personally can't wait to see what you do within the upcome Trump admin so we can see your impact and gain that last bit of confedice come 2028. I love hearing your positions and opinions and with a track record I can confidently convince my family the same way.
Thank you Dr.Peterson I love your interview style and thank you for having Vivek on again. This was perfect for those looking to hear from him and not see him drop off the Map politically.
I've seen this man plenty.
He's so eloquent, thoughtful, deep and appears on face value, well intentioned.
He's at his best here.
America and general Western World needs him.
I watched all the Republican debates and he's right about 'damned if you do damned if you don't'. He was being pushed and prodded and needed to respond.
Hopefully next time, he gets traction quicker and has more time to focus on his message than who is.
One thing - I understand man is free and we don't want anything but truth. America is still a Christian country and there'll always be doubt about his true intentions as a Hindu - it's unprecedented. No one vocalises this but it's in the background like the Jungian Shadow...
Probably going to hurt a lot of feeling hear, but if Donald Trump wasn’t in the picture, Vivek would be the nominee and the best GOP candidate of all time. But Trump has such a stranglehold on the party unfortunately, Vivek is my guy and it’s a dang shame people can’t vote past their prior allegiances.
I'm a Trump guy, love Vivek. I think Trump NEEDS a second term to take vengeance against the machine that robbed us blind in 2020. And, I would argue Vivek will benefit from seeing just how corrupt the machine is. Trump was lied to by the intelligence agencies, the military, his own party, besieged by the press, etc. Vivek is a tough guy, but being able to see that adjacent from being the focus will harden him even more against the stupid press gotchas and the pathological liars in the bureaucracy.
Thank you for this conversation. I definitely gained more understanding and admiration for Vivek. And also finally hearing the truth about Trump. We have heard nothing but twisted commentary on him. I’m voting for Trump and the more they try to decimate him the more my admiration grows.
I love the regular Vivek podcasts. You two are a powerful duo. Keep up the communication!
Oh I am glad you followed up with Vivek, dearest Dr. Peterson, I know you had a good working relationship with him. He wasn’t my candidate, DeSantis was, but I think he fought the good fight and that his campaign opened doors for him. I wish him the best.
Speaking of wishing the best, I was saddened to hear that Tammy is feeling so poorly and relieved that she is resting with Mikhaila. If you happen to see this, Dr. Peterson, please give her my love and prayers for recovery.
With Ruth Anne’s love
Imagine a White House with all three men. Trump P, Vivek VP, Desantis CoS or SoS! 🤯
Let's see... Vivek was a catalyst for Chuck Todd getting fired. He was a catalyst for Don Lemon getting fired. He was a catalyst for Rona McDaniel stepping down. Had DeSantis fought the same good fight as Vivek on the national stage, we'd be in a very different place today.
@@privacyfig I am so disappointed in DeSantis’s campaign. It made me think how sad I was about Dr. Carson’s some years back.
@@afringedgentian5426 Love both of them along with Vivek....
1:29:17 Yiiiiikes
Also as a Canadian, America needs to give Trump his last term. Then it can be down to Vivek vs Ron, but America definitely needs that kind of leadership for as long as possible.
So far right now looking at 20 years with Trump, Vivek, and Ron.
And let's give Pierre Poilievre a chance to be PM of Canada.
The temp was nuts but good for him doing it. At least he understands middle America better now. That is respect right there.
As a Non-citizen Non-resident, meaning I couldnt vote, I would LOVE to see Vivek in the next election cycle. It is obvious for me that if were not for Trump, Vivek would be the most voted politician
I have great gratitude for Vivek. He’s a true American whose allegiance lies with the ideals of the American project. At its heart, the American dream is the dream of the oppressed individual, who takes responsibility for not just their own freedom, but the freedom of the human spirit both now and in the future. Vivek has this spirit.
Great conversation. Maybe our country will have a future.
Great conversation.
Vivek is impressive.
I love Vivek. I wish he would be Trump’s VP. They would make an awesome duo and get shit done for this country.
Agree completely!
Vivek 2028 hopefully.
The reason JP seems to resonate with so many is that he simply states (what should be) the obvious, that all sane people think. He often puts things in a way that makes people with very far left, or right ideas, think.
Yeah I wanted to vote Vivek for presidency. Hopefully he continues to be a leader I can support
Awesome conversation gentlemen. Thank you. Grounds for hope.
Beautiful brilliant inspiring. I absolutely love Vivek Ramaswamy and support him fully
I became a fan the first time I saw this man. Love his exuberance for this country, his intelligence and his passion. I am and forever will be a watcher and follower. He is definitely destined for greatness. ❤
I am for Trump all the way but I do like Vivek, what he has to say and would consider him in the future. I am glad you had him on because the more he is exposed to the voters the better.
God bless you both
If Vivek had any part of getting Don lemon fired, then I'd like to give him an award.
These are 2 men that give me a glimmer of hope for western society. No one is perfect but these two represent some of the best parts of humanity. Breath of fresh air.
I absolutely love Vivek.
Never give up Vivek. The people always want someone that they feel that they know and trust. The people have got to know you, but they know your competitor better. I believe your path is bright. Continue what you're doing. You are the man for the job. Next time you will win. Never give up.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊
We are all looking forward to the book, November 2024, congratulations, I know it will be front and centre in stores in hardback as a Christmas present bestseller.
Do you think you could stretch to another UK and Europe tour and promotion?
I was disappointed to have missed you at the London O2 in 2023.
Viveks reflection on the debate was great
Love this interview, thank you for doing this ❤
Nice, loved the first interview, much needed people for our World
I hope TRUMP be smart enough to pick VIVEK as his VP over his other options.
I wonder. Vivek has a powerful personality and powerful ideas of his own. Would he be content to stay on Trump’s message and plan for four or more years? I fear Trump would end up having to manage Vivek’s posture to not split the focus. DeSantis, I think, would not spark that issue.
The last segment gave me a rare ray of hope for the future. I sincerely wish for such a future to materialize. This felt good amid the constant decay and despair of the modern world.
... Then I remember I live in Quebec.
Don't under estimate the powerful effects of these southern winds of change. Pierre Poilievre hopefully will propel Canada to a brighter future. "The times they are a changing."
Great interview! Ive added JP and Vivek to my wall of inspirational characters.
I wonder how Vivek approaches the “power vs. persuasion” conundrum JP asked about when referencing Moses.
It’s a unique dilemma for many leaders.
Creative destruction…great question JP!
It’s really hard to articulate or identify “we’ve reached an extreme” or “this is clearly bad.” good on you to help Vivek speak that out loud.
Vivek seems to have a knack for identifying favorable risk/reward scenarios. AND he has the unique ability to creatively create & execute a “trade” to capitalize on these opportunities. I’m interested in seeing where his intuition and prayer leads him next.
I think he’d have a hard time being trumps vp.
His success is about more than execution. There’s an element of nuanced timing and vision. In most cases, you have to be the boss to get the autonomy necessary to live out that skill set.
Just a guy spit balling while watching TH-cam.
Keep spreading the word!
We’re all better when we all carry our own crosses.
Vivek for VP!
Totally with you!
@@StanGraham1 No. He is too smart for that.
@@SakaRoemel yes, Vivek is such a strong personality he's better in a leadership role. I'd rather see Tulsi, she's more compatible with Trump.
2 genious men
Love hearing your experiences . I've been on board with you since last April '23. All pieces have been put in place.
4 years for Trump and 8 years with YOU!!! Perfect. The Brilliance of VIVEK ****
Vivek has to be one of the most intelligent, fluent, concise speakers of the English language I've ever heard.
You have my respect and admiration Jordan.
Dude! I've been waiting for this!!!
I'm a fan of both JBP and Vivek. Great conversation between two great North Americans!
You both are being used for great things Dr Peterson and Vivek like Cake. You two are two of the strongest individuals on the bleeding edge of this culture war. Both of your messages have profoundly effected my life. Stay strong. :]
Excellent interview!