Part 3: Why Your Favorite Musicians Are Broke

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  • @ACMCUK
    @ACMCUK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +571

    My music lawyer saved me thousands . He looked at the contract I had been presented with and laughed. He renegotiated it so I was not tied to a 5 album deal, and got all my royalties. Get a lawyer totally separate from the label.

    • @shawnabid9327
      @shawnabid9327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bro you have a contract ??

    • @ACMCUK
      @ACMCUK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@shawnabid9327 nah I left it and went independent

    • @10INCHCRUSHER
      @10INCHCRUSHER 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Spot on. These new artist are getting boned. Before they would take thier record money, now they got thier claws in the merch, endorsements and your name.

    • @pedrogomezrodriguez4121
      @pedrogomezrodriguez4121 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And your name is ?

    • @ACMCUK
      @ACMCUK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pedrogomezrodriguez4121 AC

  • @akhilnagapuri2932
    @akhilnagapuri2932 4 ปีที่แล้ว +689

    Never stop making this series, Spencer

    • @randomclips888
      @randomclips888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I know right I’m waiting for part 99 lol

    • @verticalintegration5222
      @verticalintegration5222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      So he’s going to be 75 still uploading this same shit 😂 and you’ll be here watching 45 years from now

    • @randomclips888
      @randomclips888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@verticalintegration5222 he can get it done quicker 😂 i think its smart cuz it does not happen often and with online growing each day, these companies wont be needed.

    • @akhilnagapuri2932
      @akhilnagapuri2932 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randomclips888 facts lmao

    • @sagenosnibor9173
      @sagenosnibor9173 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, I'm hooked!

  • @Live-Life-Freely
    @Live-Life-Freely 4 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    This is why I stay independent, I'm not an artist or anything but that's beside the point.

    • @thesorrow4664
      @thesorrow4664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      😆

    • @channel24spacex
      @channel24spacex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      😂

    • @mcfrisko834
      @mcfrisko834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's actually legit tho. Because these principles apply to life in general.

  • @calvincaballes2430
    @calvincaballes2430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I watched part 1 to 3, then subscribed. I'm 18 and want to be a self sufficient artist. I have friends who aspire to be artists in different platforms not just in music. Tech, Marketing, etc. I'm getting all the knowledge and wisdom from this channel to help not just me, but people who might experience this in the future.
    Don't. Stop. Making. Videos.

    • @Jamezwashington_
      @Jamezwashington_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm going to Law school to study sports and entertainment Law! Maybe I can represent you some day and get you a wonderful deal! Keep grinding brother

  • @ghostwriter991
    @ghostwriter991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Also do the movie TV industry

    • @laurenwood4271
      @laurenwood4271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      ghost writer They're unionized, so people aren't taken advantage of financially like they are in music.
      The modeling industry is really financially exploitative though. The agency pays for everything in the beginning, and then the model owes it back. Most modeling jobs don't pay much, and they're sometimes paid in clothes instead of money. The models are usually around 14 when they're signed, and often don't speak English, so they're easier to manipulate.

    • @SchardtCinematic
      @SchardtCinematic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I heard that on weekly TV sitcoms the secondary actors or background actors don't make much of anything. Once they pay there agents and lawyers and taxes they dont make much more than the average person at a factory job making parts or something. So maybe 20 bucks an hour tops. Sometimes less.

    • @BLAKDANGER
      @BLAKDANGER 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SchardtCinematic I worked as a background actor, it's true. After fees and taxes the money is not that great, but the job is very easy and you're offered food and drinks. Plus you meet some very cool people

    • @mcfrisko834
      @mcfrisko834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BLAKDANGER I agree. That's what I definitely notice in the film industry. "Social capital" is actually very much a legitimate type of currency and these industries let you access impossible scenarios where you can network with incredible people.

    • @BLAKDANGER
      @BLAKDANGER 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mcfrisko834 yeah exactly, I've been up lose with famous Hollywood actors that I would have never met otherwise

  • @cartmann94
    @cartmann94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    You can research about the sales certification used by the record labels (gold and platinum), and how the labels screw and deny sales certification to avoid paying money to artists.

    • @Ziggyhere57
      @Ziggyhere57 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see why ice cube was angry breaking shit

  • @connorblazerod9678
    @connorblazerod9678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    Now can we do a series on why I’m broke?

    • @DarkSmile-kn4fs
      @DarkSmile-kn4fs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Make part 2 about me.

    • @Sardonic_
      @Sardonic_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DarkSmile-kn4fs Let me get part 3

    • @jifffy999
      @jifffy999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's easy. You don't have any hustle. Like Rick Ross said, "If you ain't getting money that means you done something wrong."

    • @coastercraziness
      @coastercraziness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Sardonic_ and I’ll take part 4

    • @laylah150
      @laylah150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jifffy999
      I got money but now police is after me

  • @DeniseTheCakeVlogger
    @DeniseTheCakeVlogger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Love the series- would like you to do a break down of TLC's contract- we know they sold how many millions of copies of CrazySexyCool, yet were broke

    • @SafffOneee
      @SafffOneee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      and BSB

    • @zlistcelebrityYT
      @zlistcelebrityYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That’s already been done a million times.

    • @moonraker30
      @moonraker30 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Left Eye did the math back in the day

    • @TheNumbasign2
      @TheNumbasign2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you know business, you own a business. When you don’t understand business. You won’t own a business or see yourself as a business. And if you don’t own a business. No matter how much money you have. You have no money. So if you know business. Even If your paid 1 dollar. You’ll know how to turn it into more dollars. And are less likely to be whining about the label and it’s business.

    • @anthonypeters44
      @anthonypeters44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tlc made like 2 cents per cd sold

  • @notvenom1152
    @notvenom1152 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "I thought they WERE my lawyers..."
    - Andrew Garfield as Eduardo Saverin in The Social Network movie.

  • @channel24spacex
    @channel24spacex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I encourage everyone to watch the previous videos. Trevor Daniel (one of the biggest artists on TIk Tok) even commented on one of them (I forget which) giving some REALLY helpful advice to up and coming artists!

    • @bhaveshtochabbra6853
      @bhaveshtochabbra6853 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Trevor Daniel is 🐐

    • @bhaveshtochabbra6853
      @bhaveshtochabbra6853 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @gid part 1

    • @channel24spacex
      @channel24spacex 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bhaveshtochabbra6853 🤝

    • @kathiec1333
      @kathiec1333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read some of the books that artists have written, many lessons can be learned by their experiences with the record companies. Tommy James went through it all with his label.

  • @mimib___6709
    @mimib___6709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    It may just be me, but wouldn't you have suspicions if the label recommended a lawyer to you to look over the contract they want you to sign. Its just sad how easy it is to be duped.

    • @kenonerboy
      @kenonerboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      It wouldn't be phrased in a way were you'd think of that.

    • @Christopher-md7tf
      @Christopher-md7tf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      If you're young, somewhat naive, never had to deal with a lawyer yourself, and no one in your peer group can recommend you one (especially not one specializing in music industry contracts), going with the label's recommendation might seem like the sensible thing to do.

    • @CJ-tc7xh
      @CJ-tc7xh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Christopher-md7tf I wouldn’t, some people just easy to fool.

    • @Christopher-md7tf
      @Christopher-md7tf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@CJ-tc7xh Good for you

    • @yesnegro4023
      @yesnegro4023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Even some of the best lawyers have no intent on helping you. John Branca was the lawyer who helped Michael Jackson's estate pay off certain debts and helped him with his situation, yet signed Korn to a 360 deal with EMI. He helped get the Beatles records, but had Shakira in a 360 deal with Live Nation.

  • @neonglowmusic
    @neonglowmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I love this series.
    Btw, Donald Passman is the author of "All You Need to Know About the Music Business." It's currently on it's 10th edition, and full of great information.

    • @RedStl
      @RedStl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The. Bible. Of. The. Music. Business.

  • @MM-tt3np
    @MM-tt3np 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Rules #1 Give your contract to your lawyer, but change the labels name to XYZ.
    Never tell your music industry lawyer which label you are about to sign up with.
    They are like an double agent and screw you over if they get a chance ;)

    • @crnkmnky
      @crnkmnky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😲🤔

    • @miamitten1123
      @miamitten1123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I swear that’s fraud

  • @crosswiz6
    @crosswiz6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We need part 4,5,6,7,8,9,10 till infinity!

  • @lloydknows2045
    @lloydknows2045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I remember watching a Lupe Fiasco IG live and he made a good point that there’s “Artists in great contracts in bad situations and Artists in bad contracts in good situations” 🤔

    • @randomclips888
      @randomclips888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because if the label dont make most of the money then whats the point to them? They wont push u or promote u. The more u give the bigger u will get

    • @lloydknows2045
      @lloydknows2045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@randomclips888 I agree with that part but I feel like it’s more to it. In term of if the artist actually makes good music and know how to promote their product alongside the record company. I made a video talking about how rappers can learn from Latin artists on the basis of business. Because the labels are still willing to work with artists under different terms. I’m interest in your thoughts. It’s more complex imo.

    • @badboyb2gmusic252
      @badboyb2gmusic252 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @Tim85-y2q
      @Tim85-y2q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because there are a myriad of other factors that play into it. Any contract, no matter how unfavorable, can work out if someone is successful enough, it's just that most people never get anywhere close to that point and if they do, even fewer stay there for a long term basis.

  • @amiriboykin
    @amiriboykin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Honestly, this video was too short.

    • @ct-tw2ge
      @ct-tw2ge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nah its good if it was longer i probably wouldn't watch it

    • @PhaseVi
      @PhaseVi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is soooooooo much more to consider. I talk about it as well but this video was solid

  • @MISAKIBeats
    @MISAKIBeats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    In this capitalist world its important to get to know a lawyer, look up your old high-school or college buddies one of them may be a lawyer, or check your extended family, simply have their number, that's 50% of the work.
    Regular lawyers already know the industry standard and will judge the contract according to that but someone who knows you will also look at it with a moral lens.

    • @yesnegro4023
      @yesnegro4023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Beyond getting a lawyer, these artists should read up more on the legalities and financial aspects of the music industry. Using Michael Jackson as an example, his father made sure he couldn't contact others to get help until later on in life, due to an abusive and exploitative relationship. Joseph Jackson represented Michael until he could get John Branca around the time of Thriller (he's also the guy who persuaded Michael to put out the Thriller video), so artists should read up more and trust very few souls.
      EDIT: The same John Branca allowed for clients to get stuck in 360 deals, so again, you really can't trust many.

    • @MISAKIBeats
      @MISAKIBeats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@yesnegro4023 💯 Musicians need to realise they are not just making art but business, and as such should... no, MUST treat their careers as a business, as a luxury brand.

  • @portofly94
    @portofly94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As an artist/ producer, this may be one of the most valuable things I’ve ever watched on youtube.

  • @morgangoldmusic
    @morgangoldmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As an artist, you have to understand that you are a product for the label. One thing I was told by a label CEO was that you need to get your leverage and sales up as an independent before you sign any kind of deal. Labels will see artists with leverage, and want to do “business” with them. If they see an inexperienced artist with no leverage that they can make into a superstar overnight, the more likely you are to get screwed.

  • @JMusaATM
    @JMusaATM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    It’s great to see you growing like crazy lately. You are such a genuine person. Keep it up big bro! 👍😄💯

  • @GrowWithWill
    @GrowWithWill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The relationship with the labels and the attorneys is also similar to the real estate space. Experienced investors typically recommend not using the team that your real estate agent recommends and to have your own team.

    • @Tim85-y2q
      @Tim85-y2q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's good advice in any field. If you're engaged in anything that requires legal oversight, even on a small level, you should always have a relationship with your own lawyer, even if you're not in a position to actually retain their services on a full time basis.

  • @DeepValueOptions
    @DeepValueOptions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    The music industry wants your soul but they’ll pay you pennies!

  • @TerryXWang
    @TerryXWang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    That 1 dislike is from a record label for damn sure 😂
    EDIT: record label *intern probably 😂

    • @RiaLuna1
      @RiaLuna1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Haha yeahhh

    • @MB-nb7yq
      @MB-nb7yq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @SantiagoAngaritaFilms
      @SantiagoAngaritaFilms 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Record label (one of the big 3) intern here Hahaha But i didn't disliked it.

    • @TerryXWang
      @TerryXWang 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SantiagoAngaritaFilms 🤭🤭🤭

  • @thompsonappliance3078
    @thompsonappliance3078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    In this day and age there is no excuse for artist coming up on the short end of the stick.

    • @kicapanmanis1060
      @kicapanmanis1060 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If they were stupid and signed bad contracts, that's on them.

    • @grandsome1
      @grandsome1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@kicapanmanis1060 Do you read the various Terms of Service you sign with big tech? If not you're as stupid as them and the rest of us.

    • @miamitten1123
      @miamitten1123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Anne Day it’s not though. If in the app contract it says _”if we are hacked and your bank account is accessed, we’re not liable”_ and then you agree to the terms then you would be screwed. Also, cleaning your teeth may seem simple but if you were to have an allergic reaction to the chemical and lose your tongue but signed away full liability, then you are screwed. You have a to black/white view of life. There’s a lot of grey.

    • @miamitten1123
      @miamitten1123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kicapanmanis1060 you’re thinking with your mind after watching this video. Would you be so confident as a teenager (like most new artist are).

    • @inah4923
      @inah4923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All artists sign bad contracts

  • @SolarHeavy
    @SolarHeavy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Some pretty valid points here, and more reasons why I deny labels and stay independent.

  • @crown00music
    @crown00music 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    As an Artist , only reason of doing 9 to 5 job is just to be An independent Musician.

    • @RiaLuna1
      @RiaLuna1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Same here

    • @sadboipotato3382
      @sadboipotato3382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Just like any other business, it takes time to grow but eventually you will get there.

  • @SammysmSoulGlow
    @SammysmSoulGlow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    One artist who understood the game way back in the 50s and 60s was the late great Sam Cooke. He owned his masters and had control over his art. Unfortunately he hired a manager who promised him more money and better gigs. He delivered, at a price. He forged Sam's name on a document that gave him control of the music. When Cooke found out and planned to sue, he wound up dead in a cheap motel under very mysterious circumstances.

  • @ahriik
    @ahriik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is an incredible series. Keep it up! I mentioned this before on another one of your videos, but I highly recommend reaching out to members of the band Periphery and talking to them about how they negotiated deals with their record label (they are now fully independent, but had distribution through Sumerian Records for several years before). They have excellent advice to give about navigating the music industry these days.

  • @chihuahuaman7025
    @chihuahuaman7025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m a music nerd and I was really impressed with your work. Great job! Highly enjoyable series.

  • @andrewbuhman1066
    @andrewbuhman1066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great content as always. This label greed goes all the way back to the beginning of rock and roll. Everyone knows who Buddy Holly is, but the poor guy never made much money because his manager and label bilked him out of most of it.

  • @Starphot
    @Starphot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spencer, I just came into your series, thumbs up! As a kid in the 1960's listening to the top-40 stations, I was taught that to keep the artists working for you and on a schedule, you keep them lean. In these cases, owing.

  • @techbiz7287
    @techbiz7287 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro I love the way how you're tackling the music industry this is a topic that don't really get talk a lot on TH-cam or any other platform. it feel like a breath of fresh air when a Disney channel talk about something more industry based like music or entertainment and make it interesting to their audience. I wish more business channel was like you but then again I wouldn't because I do like your content.

  • @ELISHACAEZ
    @ELISHACAEZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spencer you are helping me, a 19 year old up and coming artist, Understand the nuisances of the music industry. Because of your videos I know exactly what to look for and also have been inspired to create my own label that offers amazing opportunities to artists and deals that are actually the most fair anyone can ask for (not giving away my plans because they aren’t established yet). Thank you so much for these videos. Today I didn’t learn anything new from your video but that is only because I went and did my own research and found out these things from watching alot of other videos and reading even more. Keep up this work it’s not only entertaining but it’s legitimately helping me and most likely many others in the subject.

  • @AniHajderaj
    @AniHajderaj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes please make more videos on the music business, there are mountains of dirt to dig through.

  • @christieomojo
    @christieomojo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's not a lawyers job to tell you if a deal is good or bad, or whether you could get a better deal. Its their job to explain legal terms and clauses. They are paid based on fees for work done so it's in their interest for you to sign any contract.Getting a good contract is all about leverage, new artists dont have any hence getting screwed 😪

  • @louismarinrenaud416
    @louismarinrenaud416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this. One thing that should be pointed out though is that a lot of the times when an artist records an album with a band, the whole band participates in the arrangement of the song, which has a trememdous influence on the success of the song, IMO. 99,9% of the times the musicians that helped shape that song aren’t going to have any songwriting credits, or any revenue for their participation.

  • @heinrichsmit7045
    @heinrichsmit7045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think something really valuable would be a video on how artists could do press without a label

  • @vitusndelu6630
    @vitusndelu6630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos are very insightful and as someone who aspires to be an artist himself thank you for this ground breaking series. Appreciate you and your content Spencer.

  • @OwolabbyAzeez
    @OwolabbyAzeez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This a friendly reminder to drink water more than juice or other alcoholic beverages. Proper hydration is important 🤧💯💰. Did y’all know it’s impossible to breathe while smiling?
    Kidding just wanted y’all to smile. If you’re reading this bruv (or bruvette), understand that you are amazing bro, have a blessed day and don’t let nobody ruin your day bro. Stack and act broke. Get ya bread and all the crumbs too. 💰🙏🏾💯

    • @Ray-bx8sn
      @Ray-bx8sn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool positive post, stack and act broke is the way to go, never let'em see what you working with

    • @youraverageblackboy5402
      @youraverageblackboy5402 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @JMusaATM
      @JMusaATM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao felt for the smile joke! Keep spreading positivity g you’re going places! 💯

  • @AikiraBeats
    @AikiraBeats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I'm really curious to see how someone would go about looking for a lawyer

    • @djbhe
      @djbhe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Do a search for entertainment lawyer.

    • @ACMCUK
      @ACMCUK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      If ur signing to a major, Look for the lawyer who acted against your label in court b4 and won

    • @elagrion
      @elagrion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      1-555-call-saul.
      That is of course in the case they have banned you from google.

    • @ChrisTondreau
      @ChrisTondreau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Talk to other artists and find out who they recommend. There are a few who seem to represent a whole roster of artists - like Sanderson/Taylor in Canada, and their reputation is beyond refute.

  • @DymaxionDon
    @DymaxionDon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Not wanting to defend the recording industry but a lot of these artists are simply a product of the recording industry.

    • @TheNumbasign2
      @TheNumbasign2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That’s the whole thing in a nut shell. With out the label. They don’t exist. Rs.

    • @SP-uq2hy
      @SP-uq2hy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, that's true. If the label is using you, you have to make sure you can use them too, like if your gonna sign with a big label, you will most likely get your albums promoted by some of the other big artists on your label.

    • @mikewolosz9456
      @mikewolosz9456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That is 100% fact. Because if you don't sign there are a 100 people in line to take your place.

  • @oldman4353
    @oldman4353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What you need is an independent manager that can deal with the record company. (e.g. Rod Smallwood - Iron Maiden or Q Prime - Metallica & Def Leppard)

  • @silentrob668
    @silentrob668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have friends who signed 'deals' back in the 80s who basically sold off their music and output to the record label as part of the advance. 30 years on the labels are still selling their music but the artist sees nothing, but an occasional royalty cheque that is worth less than the admin of sending a cheque. Bands were restricted from producing work for anyone else. So it was basically a restraint of trade for the bands. My favourite ones are the people in the 2000s who won talent search shows by winning a prize that was a record deal. And hey presto that deal was recoupable and here they are pushing 40 still owing their record company money from their 'prize' . Its basically a really glamourous Ponzi scheme.

  • @Blacksheep1042
    @Blacksheep1042 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shalom from Israel
    Thank you very much for addressing and presenting the Record Companies ethics and business core.
    Without being underestimating or urinate against the wind, nothing is really New - what lead to that:
    Look, i'm yester era old guy that belong to the "wow that CD is really sound different then casset or vinyl !" Generation so please try not to lough to much
    But as i see it / perceive it it always sum to the same point -
    AND WERE WERE ALL THE HUMANS THAT TOOK PART IN THAT SHIT ?
    And i mean THE CONSUMERS = FANS = THE CELEBRATING AND ENJOYING THE MOMENT PARTY MEMBERS = "THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK PART IN SLAVERY "HEY IT'S ONLY ONE SLAVE FOR MY FARM - i really need it ! , I'M NOT A SLAVE DEALER..."
    We all know and quit well that the Music Corporations want 100% of any thing if they only could. Therefore they act and operate on 200% control state of mind.
    For example - many people in / around the music industry noticed the totalitarian ELCTRO ACOUSTICAL VOLIUM LOUDNESS levels since 2000+.
    It's not that those CEOS, "PRODUCERS", "LABEL ARTISTIC ADVISORS" are death , Dosent know pro Audio basics or stupid or whatever...
    It all about AGGRESSIVE, TOTALITARIAN, WELL CALCULATED BUSINESS MODEL TO ACHIEVE 3000% CONTROL.
    OF WHATFUCKEN WHATEVER - POINT !
    So as usual -
    why dosen't the 99.9 of the victims ( ARTIST / MUSICIANS / LISSENERS/ CONSUMERS = not a Record Company worker) can't just for 48 FUCKING HOUERS stop streaming, online entertainment e-transactions , tickets buying, merch ?
    48 H !
    It will shake any record company / establishment from the deepest underground garages of their fancy skyscrapers up to the CEO suits.
    But in the age of GLOBAL SOCIAL JUSTICE / SOCIAL ON LINE CAMPAIGNS AND JIHADS AND NETWORKING NETWORKING NETWORKING somehow the slaves just become more slavians then free...
    I have talked with Millenials about this point and somehow the answer is mostly - yess, but forget it. No one will stop being Millenial even for 1 minute.
    The counter forces and the damages that were done are to strong.
    So maybe the practical solution to that whole tragic story is by starting with some 70's hippies mantras and some tape cassette guided meditation ;) :
    I don't want to here any note of anything when i know that i'm listening to BLOOD ART !
    I don't want my ears to be damaged and raped whenever i play BLOOD ART on my $$$$ In ear shiney gadget
    I don't want that artist and musicians will be depraved / enslaved LEGALLY, SYSTEMATICALLY, METHODICALLY (INC BRAINWASHING) and on a Global 5 continent scale !
    I don't want to be forced upon 4 chord songs ( the same 4 ;) , produced by shrude businessmen and synthetic / artificial AI music software !
    I am not really son of the GRATE META DATA IN THE SERVERS BUNKERS !
    I'M HUMAN !
    be blessed, make art and profit from it like mother nature intended, and please lets stop the unnecessary On line war - CDS are far superior to tape cassettes ;)

  • @mikshida1399
    @mikshida1399 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I’m working on my own independent record label and your content is great help.

    • @RealSergiob466
      @RealSergiob466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great

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    • @miamitten1123
      @miamitten1123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Record label!? So you want to learn how to ‘scam’ potential acts lol 😂

    • @mikshida1399
      @mikshida1399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@miamitten1123 I work independently with my partner Zheani. Search her here on TH-cam. I don't understand why you are accusing me of being a scammer?

  • @ItsBrokenPen
    @ItsBrokenPen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i actually released 2 projects via a record label which i never signed a contract for. the result? payment for a guest feature, opening up for rakim, doing a song with roc marciano and then having my LP taken down without my permission and my former manager/record label guy making a diss song about me (which i have yet to listen to because ASMR rap isnt my cup of tea)
    gotta love the music industry.

  • @mfburk2010
    @mfburk2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have a niece in Nashville. She is a musician. She writes her own songs, performs in clubs and is raising money to release an album. I hope she is watching your videos on this subject.

  • @yesnegro4023
    @yesnegro4023 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the one channel I will always allow ads to run on. Great content that always speaks volumes. It's interesting how many snakes revolve around one artist or group, let alone the thousands that exist.

  • @lokiblue5125
    @lokiblue5125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the same with publishing. I have sold over a million books as an independent author, mainly in the last 2 years. I write under Charlotte Byrd and indie publishing is thriving thanks to Kindle and Facebook / Amazon ads that you can run yourself to find readers. Traditional publishing deals are total crap. You get like 10-15% royalties vs 70% through Amazon and other ebook retailers and hardly anyone gets advances or they will be like $5k. Definitely go indie but learn about marketing and advertising

  • @sseltrek1a2b
    @sseltrek1a2b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love to hear your thoughts on BMI and ASCAP...my frustrations with them is how they're hurting local music (forcing mom and pop venues to have licenses for any cover music that gets played, etc...)...

  • @InvestwithHenry
    @InvestwithHenry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Commenting for the youtube algo. Keep it up bro!

  • @SFLogicNinja
    @SFLogicNinja 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are now required watching for any artist that I produce. I have contributed to beautiful albums that have been mired in the sludge of the music industry. I’m am so grateful for your concise explanations of how the music industry works. I honestly wish artists could ditch labels altogether, get a following via social media, and make their money on Bandcamp. That is a dream of mine. With some licensing thrown in for good measure.

  • @stonecoldsigma
    @stonecoldsigma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I would like to see a series on sports contracts.

  • @ChrisPTY507
    @ChrisPTY507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I will ask it again: IS THERE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT A SCAM IN 2020?

    • @tcaudiobooks737
      @tcaudiobooks737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Planting things, going for a walk. Not much else.

    • @6lackalanwatts916
      @6lackalanwatts916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not gone lie, you honestly just opened my eyes even more about reality with that question. Salute to you 💯

    • @ChrisPTY507
      @ChrisPTY507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@6lackalanwatts916 This reality seems to be so fake tbh, and it’s kinda depressing. Everyone seem to prefer to exploit others only for personal benefit. No wonder humanity is so slow at developing itself...

    • @skyjack8541
      @skyjack8541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not Islam or Christianity religions. I'm a christian and I haven't been scammed out of my money I worked for. I pay tithes and offerings. My pastor lives a very lavish life.

    • @itsgoubie
      @itsgoubie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      puppies and kittens

  • @GrowWithWill
    @GrowWithWill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this series of deep dives.

  • @ikealamp53
    @ikealamp53 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this series and i can barely play a guitar, let alone, sign with a label. It's just very interesting stuff.

    • @OgamiItto70
      @OgamiItto70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can't play guitar? Can you sing? No? Play any instruments? No? Have _any_ talent? No? Have long hair? Yes? Lots of tattoos? Yes? Why, you're *_THE IDEAL CANDIDATE!!!_* ;--)

  • @richarddeese1991
    @richarddeese1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. In this age of social media, digital platforms, and free information, two things are happening, and will only accelerate. First, word is getting out about various ways people get taken advantage of by the system. People will become more aware, smart, & careful. Second, the virtual monopoly by the recording companies is beginning to crack & bleed. Eventually, the record companies will lose & die out. These days, you can be your own producer right in your bedroom. The digital tools are out there for anyone to make a song, write a book, create a movie, etc. Big corporations will no doubt continue trying to find ways to feed - including having laws created by the government that favor them at the expense of anyone else. After all, that's what they all do. In this case though, it won't work in the end. Cool! tavi.

  • @adrianfletcher8963
    @adrianfletcher8963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for another great video. There is something interesting about how most of the examples that you used in your 3 videos were all hip hop related.
    I can't put my finger on why that's relevant, but i do think it's telling of how certain acts are treated. I would love to know of other instances of this happening in other genres (i know it does - i just don't follow it as closely as hip hop)

  • @CrimeConversations
    @CrimeConversations 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope artists come together and change this ‘business model’ 🙏

  • @petersmith8790
    @petersmith8790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a well written and researched series. You make excellent content. Extremely informative and fascinating! Really appreciate your work

  • @phac3_
    @phac3_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As an upcoming artist I've noticed that the industry is very small and friend look to help friends. Be wary of who recommends who to you.

  • @Kat.Evangeline14
    @Kat.Evangeline14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This may be irrelevant but years ago and I was working for Tower Records we're talking 40 years ago the record people would actually come over and bribe the person ordering singles to lie and say a certain single was a number one seller when it wasn't they would give them $100 for this and that's why you see horrible songs in the top 10 ➡people were being bribed to say they are in the top 10

  • @1.5Koreans0.5American
    @1.5Koreans0.5American 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Spencer: turning his valuable time into valuable content 🔥

  • @HiKONiCONiCO
    @HiKONiCONiCO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think JoJo's legal case would be a very interesting conversation about child stars and legality of kids signing contracts into music. Its quite sad to see JoJo being held hostage for years before finally being relieved of her contract but having to re-record her record because her original masters are kept by the label that originally signed her.

  • @NeoKingArthur
    @NeoKingArthur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lesson learned is: If you want to be a successful music artist. Don't skip school, and study the skills needed to be able to write, produce, and perform your own music and self-management.

  • @riellymorton
    @riellymorton 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making these videos covering the music industry! Very helpful.

  • @nathanthompson8777
    @nathanthompson8777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’d really like to here the positives! How do some artists who sign to record labels make it a success??? Like Billie Eilish and FINNEAS or Charlie Puth or Jack Harlow?

  • @Nkanyiso_K
    @Nkanyiso_K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:00 *Come on Spencer* My *_Favourite Athletes_* are going Broke waiting for part 2!

    • @Nkanyiso_K
      @Nkanyiso_K 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😅 you're doing great otherwise, been enjoying the content

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  • @mellowords
    @mellowords 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd love to hear this guy's take on the Musician's Union. They offer legal services like the ones mentioned in this video for members, but their members are super low now. Probably for good reason.

    • @BluegillGreg
      @BluegillGreg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did have a meeting with the musicians’ union Local in Seattle back In the day. They were mainly focused on getting decent hourly wages (Union scale) for musicians that worked in non-royalty situations (TV, etc).

    • @BluegillGreg
      @BluegillGreg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They also helped self-managed musicians who collaborated on local events (weddings, parties, etc) set rates high enough and share revenue among themselves fairly enough to have sustained profits.

  • @benfranklin2392
    @benfranklin2392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    a perk of having a dad who's a lawyer

  • @MISSCOOKIE41
    @MISSCOOKIE41 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Discuss what happens;
    when Artists seek to move on from Record Label
    wanting to retrieve their Masters and publishing,
    and the lengths labels go to in order to RETAIN the Artists property.
    hence; Sam Cooke, Jackie Wilson, Prince, Michael Jackson R.I.P. R. Kelly etc..
    MANY HAVE SUFFERED Fighting for what they created.
    btw... LOVE Your Channel and Topics.

  • @Ajlatango
    @Ajlatango 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This series made me hit the subscribe button. So eye opening

  • @sirtorndr
    @sirtorndr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love to see a report on a group like Dave Matthews Band who, from what I understand, toured all the time at first, allowed fans to record their concerts (plugging directly into the soundboard) and encouraged them to make copies to give to friends, turned down record company contracts, produced their own first album, and became one of the biggest money-making juggernauts in music every year for more than 25 years. Plus, Dave started and owns the distributing company for all of their merchandise. It seems to me like they did things the right way, relying on their immense talent and hard work as well as unusual business savvy to be able to still draw huge crowds to their concerts even after close to 3 decades. They are also the only group to have 8 consecutive albums debut at number one on the billboard charts, all with very little radio airplay throughout. Is my impression accurate? How did they become so huge without much radio and doing just about everything the opposite of what one would expect? Could others benefit from their strategy?

  • @jprsdas
    @jprsdas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've learned a lot watching your music industry videos, thanks.

  • @BxChef.207
    @BxChef.207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ras Kass has a great song about this topic called "The Business Of Music".

  • @destinyreturns4885
    @destinyreturns4885 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really impressive presentation. I find it more interesting that as a real estate person you stepped outside your "comfort zone" to research and take on this topic. Great job.

  • @makemoneynow5061
    @makemoneynow5061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is worth watching! More of this, please!

  • @daisychaindaze8061
    @daisychaindaze8061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent. Essential watching. Spencer, you are a shining light in the murky blackness!

  • @leyenda6149
    @leyenda6149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This series is the isht

    • @isaiahwinbrone
      @isaiahwinbrone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm independent artist myself I'm not signed to nobody I got my own label

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      @youraverageblackboy5402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @mrwrong2815
    @mrwrong2815 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to more in this series. For sure the most interesting Spencer has done yet

  • @deanbassan
    @deanbassan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great series! Super helpful, thank you!

  • @deanandthebeans857
    @deanandthebeans857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting indeed, thank you! I assume you've read Frederick Dannen's book, Hit Men? It sheds a lot of light on the crooked deals going down in the music business.

  • @davidbuchananmba5624
    @davidbuchananmba5624 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spencer I am also a realtor in Dallas, Texas and agree on relationships disclosures. I am also an adjunct Professor at Dallas College and teach business. This three part series is so informative. Keep going Into actor contracts if possible. My daughter does both and not yet signed. My concern even for actors is taking advantage of my daughter. Most artist are so desperate they sign anything to get career started.

  • @BluegillGreg
    @BluegillGreg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Around 1990 in Seattle, contracts could be structured so that whatever you overspent in one contract area was recouped from future revenue, and whatever you didn’t spend went into your own pocket once you’d fulfilled your end. People already had their own skills and networks, and got the work done quickly and cheaply. Many kept living inexpensively.
    Do you know of John Oszajca? He played around Seattle in the early 90s, had a big solo signing with Interscope around 99 and they dropped one album in 2000 but failed to promote it. I believe he kept much of his unspent advance and was able to proceed with his career once IS dropped the ball. He developed an eBook business, then started one of those coaching businesses you critique, recommending musicians stay independent and market online directly to fans.
    Passman’s book is great.
    Another great book is Dan Charnas’s “The Big Payback: The History of the Business of Hip-Hop [New American Library, 2010].
    One more, for Rock and Americana: Fred Goodman’s “The Mansion On The Hill: Dylan, Young, Springsteen, and the Head-On Collision of Rock and Commerce” [Vintage Books, 1997 & 1998].
    I hope young people will read the history so they can improve it.
    “Thank you for your service!”

  • @LukeSharpTV
    @LukeSharpTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    been watching your videos forever, finally subscribed (sorry im late). i truly appreciate all the valuable information you continually discuss. its fascinating and eye opening. cheers!

  • @simstreeter991
    @simstreeter991 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Powerful stuff that we all can use in life!!!!!! Appreciate ya information bro 😎 💯💯💯

  • @davidosabas
    @davidosabas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these music industry videos, make more parts!!

  • @tonyunderwoodmusic1607
    @tonyunderwoodmusic1607 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great series! I recommend all people, while in high shool (or age) take a class, community class, online, free TH-cam tutorial in contracts in general. Sit down with a friend who knows the law (paralegal, retired attorney, etc) and go over sample contracts line by line and write out “plain talk” to the side or in a notebook. Get sample music deals and work out the numbers. And always have all numbers spelled out. Or if the contract says expenses are deducted or recouped, have a limit or a number in the expense. Also limit the number of people working on the piece, no extra writers or producers and have a total limit in all of these. If the company is unwilling to do this , walk away and build your fan base thru social media and others until the music labels see your value and meet your terms.

    • @BluegillGreg
      @BluegillGreg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely take your High School’s “You And The Law” course and finish all its work. If you didn’t finish HS take your Community College’s course.

  • @tracysmith5488
    @tracysmith5488 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This 3-part series should be taught at universities & music conventions.
    For real.

  • @ray-de-yolisten9934
    @ray-de-yolisten9934 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes thanks for another video!!! Please keep them coming

  • @thiswillhurtt873
    @thiswillhurtt873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressed by the research of this video...

  • @rtistofficial6070
    @rtistofficial6070 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love music business type videos man. More please!!!

  • @maja2509
    @maja2509 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been reading Donald Passman's All You Need to Know About the Music Business to learn more about the topic, and he mentions that aside from the breakage fees, there's also another clause about the physical copies like CDs that the label can send promotional CDs to retailers for free that they can then sell for a profit, and anything they don't sell, the retailer can return to the label for free - and all the expenses (shipping to the retailers, making the CDs (that are going to be free), and returning the ones that didn't sell) are covered by the artist's royalties. And he also mentions many times when a label offers a 360 deal to an artist, they also tell the artist they have to sign it, otherwise, they'll never get another deal in the industry itself because they have connections and the artist doesn't.

    • @maja2509
      @maja2509 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mojito It's fascinating and I haven't even finished it yet

  • @kosco1151
    @kosco1151 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such an awesome topic to discuss, fascinating to know this stuff.

  • @bevolkisch4628
    @bevolkisch4628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having a lawyer look at is only going to do one thing and that is cause the lawyer to get paid to look at the contract and maybe explain it to you. Your lawyer cannot renegotiate the contract. If you already agreed to the contract orally then the actual paper contract is just memorializing the oral contract which you already agreed to. The negotiation of the contract occurs between the parties only. A proper manager with experience negotiating contracts could help you negotiate a better deal. But no, all a lawyer usually does is draft a document that memorializes the actual agreed to contract, and it is actually unlawful for the drafting attorney to change the terms or draft them more favorable to one party or the other. A lawyer can explain to you the legal ramifications and obligations that you have under an agreement but he cannot change the terms of the agreement. If no contract was formed and you have not already agreed to the contract, then that "contract" is just an offer, and if the offer remains open then you could take the offer to a lawyer and he could explain your obligations under the offer if you choose to accept it but lawyers do not ordinarily negotiate contracts at all period.

  • @rosemay4526
    @rosemay4526 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do a series like this about the film industry. Thanks!

  • @prettyboypauly4300
    @prettyboypauly4300 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need a part 4
    This is very entertaining and informative 🤓

  • @KeesversluysMusic
    @KeesversluysMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You better first understand and read your contract. Have it changed and rewritten to your liking is another option. Or be independent with your own label.

    • @BluegillGreg
      @BluegillGreg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Write your own contract from scratch in plain language, real paragraphs, 14 pt serif font, have your independent lawyer review it. Go to your first meeting using it as a proposal.

  • @supermoviegeeks7251
    @supermoviegeeks7251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank u for all the amazing info bro!! Keep it up 💪🏽💪🏽🙌🏽

  • @prls3081
    @prls3081 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are so great! Keep please making videos about the music industry