Great comparison. Thanks much! I just visited the site, and seems like that they changed the name of DG862 "shepherd" Vargan model. FYI, those of you who are about to buy the shepherd vargan - It is now DG862 "Kumardak" Vargan.
Nice video, Matt. Sound advice for beginners - go to Oberton Pro and get a decent (not the Compass/Kara-Tash) Glazyrin harp. Oberton Pro have a great range and the best prices, plus they are established, reliable and trustworthy. I'd also recommend grabbing a case when you buy from them so you can safely carry your harp in style without damaging the reed in your pocket. I'd love to see even more vargan/jews harp videos from you - keep them coming, dude! :-)
Matt Tastic Hi again Matt,getting on great with the shepherd vargan and now I have also order the batman vargan from oberton pro it sounds pritty cool.thanks for the video,s
I hope the scarab i just got on Amazon from oberton pro is the dg862, the product images are the same but shipping is faster and it comes with a little case. Thanks for the video, I'm pretty excited to try this thing out
Im actually getting into Jaw Harps, it amazing that an instrument sound like techno, I hated techno because it was electrc, I love instruments, yet here it is Hope to get at least half as good in the future
I ordered a lighthouse model from Oberton and was so rough I don't know how it made it out the door. Fit and finish were bad with bends, gouges, and dings in places that couldn't have only happened in manufacturing and assembly. None of the lines were straight and the tine had a series of bends that looked like someone tried to bend it back into place. I couldn't pull the trigger away from my face without it catching on the body because of the bends in the tine, and because the body had rough gouges and no straight lines along the tine. Pushing the trigger was the only way it worked but due to the tine catching the sides it wouldn't make a good sound. The edges on the outside were rolled in some places and gouged in others that definitely didn't line up symmetrical. It was a massive disappointment and someone in quality assurance sure dropped the ball.
Decided the khromus would be a good pick, never saw this video but I liked the brass and the pattern on the reed, sure glad I picked it, would hate to have bought a real quiet one
Ok, I've never played this instrument, but I love low pitched instruments and I'm looking to add the jaw harp to my library haha. Which one should I buy? Thanks in advance, your video is amazing.
Ive got two cheap harps.. The Snoopy and an Ozark.. The Ozark has slightly better sound than the Snoopy but its just rubbish.. That last one you played... Do they make one similar but in a higher pitch? Im looking for something louder and obviously better quality than the two wall hangers I have at the moment. What would you suggest for a beginner..
Hi Matt, love the videos, I want to get the VD1029 that you review but I can't find it on Oberton Pro. Do you know anywhere else to get it from? Many thanks David
The prices are extremli more expensives with oberton pro on Amazon / eBay / Wish / Etsy compare to the website ... They make money like this I think, this is not respectful for the customer. To my mind. But this is how they do. Excuse my English, thats because Im french ! 😉
I just bought this one after watching this video, it has the same product images as the one on the Russian site Oberton Pro "Scarab Baritone" Jaw Harp Mouth Musical Instrument with Rich Sound www.amazon.com/dp/B07KX7P8V4/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_MDS6DbVTEV075
I'm not sure bout regular jaw harps but I know that Dan Moi's are meant to be played with the lips, tho I recommend looking more into it cuz there are a few cons for it. It's still a jaw harp just different shape and material.
Yeah I went to the website and they don't have any more of the jaw Harp they don't know when they will have them back in as far as I know what they are saying because it's in Russian
In short - yes. All harps have base pitch and sometimes they are tuned to a specific key. G is great for beginners if you want to learn pitch control for melodic play (F and A as well). Jaw harps are dual tone instruments. They all have a specific base pitch that's created by the reed vibration. It's formed by he reed geometry and weight and always stays the same. In addition to it the harp produces obertones from that base pitch - and you can work with them and change the note by changing the volume of the resonant cavity of your mouth and opening\closing your lungs. What's more interesting is - when you change the pitch up and down by moving your tongue with lungs in open or closed position - you can find the specific spots where obertones sound most pronounced and juicy. These spots correspond to all of the notes of the major scale octave for this key (plus extra A#) as well as parts of octave above and below that. You can train yourself to find these specific notes. After this - it's very much possible to use mouth harp as a universal musical instrument for any melodies that don't require you to go beyond 1,5 octaves.
@@EL_Newman I'm a bit wary of giving the recommendations about mouth harps, since at least in the budget segment there's a big variance in sound quality even among the instruments made by the same master. If you have a local store that handles ethnic instruments - it would be easier to visit them in person, ask them to show you several of the budget ones and choose the one that strikes your fancy. Then once you learn the basics of playing it and are sure that mouth harps are your thing - you may want to upgrade and expand. Premium mastercrafted harps sound is on a completely different level. They cost a bit extra - but that extra goes into premium materials and tuning. I can recommend the following masters from experience: Alexander Dernovoi - he makes drymbas that have both great sound and artistic visuals. Dmitry Babaev - a master that works both in budget and premium segments and provides great quality in both. If you can get one of his cheaper harps - that would be ideal for a beginner. He also makes recreations of historical instruments, like the vargans from 12-14th centuries found in a dig under Veliky Novgorod. Sergei Fomenkov - perhaps my favorite master. One of the few people that works with titanium. His vargans look like something you may find in a UFO crash. Impeccable sound, beautiful futuristic visuals, no hassle with rust, since titanium doesnt corrode. You may also want to look into Norwegian munnharpe masters, as they've pretty much written the book about the melodic mouth harp playing. Old masters like Folke Nesland are legendary, but very hard to find. Simen Roheim Iversen is one of the good modern masters. I think you can order some of Babaev and Fomenkov harps from Oberton Pro. You can also reach out to the masters directly through their web-stores or social media. They usually glad to take orders.
hello, I am looking for a nice Jaw harp. I saw so many jaw harp start from DG from your web, DG861 DG815 DG777 Etc. Is that all DG are the same quality with DG862? Can make song as loud, powerful as DG862? Thank you!
Hello, all DG has the same "technical" quality - any one will give loud, saturated sound. All has unbeatable price-to-loudness ratio and extremely popular among beginners or techno/trance/timbe effects-style players. But it is only one side... Among others are: 1) Sound pitch - most simple to hear even in sound recordings. 2) Mechanics of the reed - some are good only for basic strokes; some can maintain the same timbre with any usage. 3) Sound purity / overtones clarity - it is low among all DG except DH644 (DG848 in halfway).
The prices are extremli more expensives with oberton pro on Amazon / eBay / Wish / Etsy compare to the website ... They make money like this I think, this is not respectful for the customer. To my mind. But this is how they do. Excuse my English, thats because Im french ! 😉
A lot of times, in ebay or Amazon the seller will add in the shipping cost and a little more on top I got the DG777, which was around $120 on Amazon with shipping or $73+$25 from oberton pro directly
@@ElHabsburgHechizado To tell the truth, I had only bought on Wish, a Glazyrin Lighthouse at the time and I saw that the cost was less expensive on oberton pro website. So I was a little bit upset but this was my mistake ! 🙏 Also, this is the rules of Webmarket ! 😉 2 month ago I get a fantastic Fomenkov Mahatma from Oberton.com and I am very happy with this beautiful Vargan . Oberton pro Did a good job. 👍 Excuse my bad English, again !
@@MattTastic0_0 ok! Thanks so much. Can you help me identify a trustworthy seller of the vargan on Amazon? I feel like your expertise in unquestionable.
Great comparison. Thanks much!
I just visited the site, and seems like that they changed the name of DG862 "shepherd" Vargan model.
FYI, those of you who are about to buy the shepherd vargan - It is now DG862 "Kumardak" Vargan.
Thanks for the heads up
I remember that the restaurant called Cracker Barrel used to sell Jaw Harps
Hey pal look for a nice little jew harp but not sure what to buy. What would you suggest is worth the money on Amazon
i like your vibe. you are a real person!!! definitely going to check out their site. i want a russian harp so much
Sarah, You are a real Person! and I like your VIBE
0:55 you just showed me that i can blow in it to change the sound ! Omg thanx man !
No prob Bob
The first one is like the HOHNER 1856 Harmonica - simple, clear, small, and easy. I liked it a lot.
That last one also looks like a mass effect relay, so that's kinda neat for all the gamer nerds.
Nice video, Matt. Sound advice for beginners - go to Oberton Pro and get a decent (not the Compass/Kara-Tash) Glazyrin harp. Oberton Pro have a great range and the best prices, plus they are established, reliable and trustworthy. I'd also recommend grabbing a case when you buy from them so you can safely carry your harp in style without damaging the reed in your pocket.
I'd love to see even more vargan/jews harp videos from you - keep them coming, dude! :-)
Hi Matt, just purchased the vargan Shepherd I am only a learner but found this Harp fantastic ,thanks for the video.
Matt Tastic Hi again Matt,getting on great with the shepherd vargan and now I have also order the batman vargan from oberton pro it sounds pritty cool.thanks for the video,s
I haven't rieceved it yet should be hear in a couple of days,will let you know then.
Matt Tastic rieceved batman today I love it ,it has great tone slightly higher than the shepard and as the shepard very easy to play.
Matt Tastic will do,thanks again.
I ordered the Shepard today. They were out of stock...gotta wait. Boo. Thanks for video review
I hope the scarab i just got on Amazon from oberton pro is the dg862, the product images are the same but shipping is faster and it comes with a little case. Thanks for the video, I'm pretty excited to try this thing out
the shepard vargan is what I need in my life! thank you! haha
You crack me up. I like it.
OH MY GOD I WAS NOT EXPECTING YOU TO START TALKING WITH IT THATS SO FUNNY
can you do the talkign thing with the VD1029? thats the one i liked most
Im actually getting into Jaw Harps, it amazing that an instrument sound like techno, I hated techno because it was electrc, I love instruments, yet here it is
Hope to get at least half as good in the future
Aim higher.
Loved your video
I ordered a lighthouse model from Oberton and was so rough I don't know how it made it out the door. Fit and finish were bad with bends, gouges, and dings in places that couldn't have only happened in manufacturing and assembly. None of the lines were straight and the tine had a series of bends that looked like someone tried to bend it back into place. I couldn't pull the trigger away from my face without it catching on the body because of the bends in the tine, and because the body had rough gouges and no straight lines along the tine. Pushing the trigger was the only way it worked but due to the tine catching the sides it wouldn't make a good sound. The edges on the outside were rolled in some places and gouged in others that definitely didn't line up symmetrical. It was a massive disappointment and someone in quality assurance sure dropped the ball.
Ordered a PP27 last night.
Decided the khromus would be a good pick, never saw this video but I liked the brass and the pattern on the reed, sure glad I picked it, would hate to have bought a real quiet one
Ok, I've never played this instrument, but I love low pitched instruments and I'm looking to add the jaw harp to my library haha. Which one should I buy? Thanks in advance, your video is amazing.
By the way, have you ever heard of Karl Schwartz manufacturer? Is that a good one?
Need recommendation for simple amplifier. and accompanying mic.
I just got the first harp style delivered
Did the DG862 "Shepherd" Vargan got renamed?? I can't find it but found Vargan DG862 "Kumardak" and it looks the same
Yes, it is DG862 "Kumardak" - www.oberton.pro/?id=862&lang=en&cur=usd
The best harps for the price
I placed an order months ago still haven't received anything an oberton customer service didn't do anything to help the situation
Just curious bit can I trust the site?? Just bought the v k798 model felt a little scetched checking out, Not used to buying stuff in Russian.
You will be pleased with fast delivery by bear with balalaika and red star on the cap;)
your babushka granny is gonna deliver it for you
Where can I buy the shepherds vargan?
They dont sell the VD1029 "Sungir" Vargan anymore…
Ive got two cheap harps.. The Snoopy and an Ozark.. The Ozark has slightly better sound than the Snoopy but its just rubbish.. That last one you played... Do they make one similar but in a higher pitch? Im looking for something louder and obviously better quality than the two wall hangers I have at the moment. What would you suggest for a beginner..
Hi Matt, love the videos, I want to get the VD1029 that you review but I can't find it on Oberton Pro. Do you know anywhere else to get it from? Many thanks David
thanks for the info
5$, 9$, 10$, then 37$!
That escalated quickly.
bought my pp27 from Amazon (Oberton Pro) for 17 euros (Mostly for the case I guess)
The prices are extremli more expensives with oberton pro on Amazon / eBay / Wish / Etsy compare to the website ...
They make money like this I think, this is not respectful for the customer. To my mind.
But this is how they do.
Excuse my English, thats because Im french ! 😉
I'm having trouble finding where to purchase on the site. I can't find where to actually but the harp, it's the VD1029 Vargan.
Great Video
How do you keep it from damaging your 🦷😥
Don't put it on your teeth
What’s your opinion on the tuulu altar?
I want one... pls send to Malaysia
I paid 30 bucks for that 5 dollar one from a music shop, I feel ripped off, it’s the only one I have tho
Would you recommend this particular arsenal for someone who wants to get into the jaw harp having never played one before..?
Lol a heart but no reply
What is the closest thing to a DG862 Kumardak Vargan on Amazon, since I can't find this one on there?
I just bought this one after watching this video, it has the same product images as the one on the Russian site Oberton Pro "Scarab Baritone" Jaw Harp Mouth Musical Instrument with Rich Sound www.amazon.com/dp/B07KX7P8V4/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_MDS6DbVTEV075
I got one of those first ones can’t fit my teeth on it and only use my lips is that ok?
I'm not sure bout regular jaw harps but I know that Dan Moi's are meant to be played with the lips, tho I recommend looking more into it cuz there are a few cons for it. It's still a jaw harp just different shape and material.
Yeah I went to the website and they don't have any more of the jaw Harp they don't know when they will have them back in as far as I know what they are saying because it's in Russian
These are great videos. And if Harland Williams had a son.
@@MattTastic0_0 He's absolutely hilarious and you bring a knowledgeable and humorous angle to your craft.
Do different Jaw harps play different notes? (Does it have a key like harmonicas?)
@@MattTastic0_0 Thanks!
In short - yes.
All harps have base pitch and sometimes they are tuned to a specific key. G is great for beginners if you want to learn pitch control for melodic play (F and A as well).
Jaw harps are dual tone instruments. They all have a specific base pitch that's created by the reed vibration. It's formed by he reed geometry and weight and always stays the same. In addition to it the harp produces obertones from that base pitch - and you can work with them and change the note by changing the volume of the resonant cavity of your mouth and opening\closing your lungs.
What's more interesting is - when you change the pitch up and down by moving your tongue with lungs in open or closed position - you can find the specific spots where obertones sound most pronounced and juicy. These spots correspond to all of the notes of the major scale octave for this key (plus extra A#) as well as parts of octave above and below that. You can train yourself to find these specific notes. After this - it's very much possible to use mouth harp as a universal musical instrument for any melodies that don't require you to go beyond 1,5 octaves.
@@Kia044 That’s awesome! Thanks for the detailed response. I would love to try it. Do you have any brand recommendations?
@@EL_Newman
I'm a bit wary of giving the recommendations about mouth harps, since at least in the budget segment there's a big variance in sound quality even among the instruments made by the same master.
If you have a local store that handles ethnic instruments - it would be easier to visit them in person, ask them to show you several of the budget ones and choose the one that strikes your fancy.
Then once you learn the basics of playing it and are sure that mouth harps are your thing - you may want to upgrade and expand. Premium mastercrafted harps sound is on a completely different level.
They cost a bit extra - but that extra goes into premium materials and tuning.
I can recommend the following masters from experience:
Alexander Dernovoi - he makes drymbas that have both great sound and artistic visuals.
Dmitry Babaev - a master that works both in budget and premium segments and provides great quality in both.
If you can get one of his cheaper harps - that would be ideal for a beginner.
He also makes recreations of historical instruments, like the vargans from 12-14th centuries found in a dig under Veliky Novgorod.
Sergei Fomenkov - perhaps my favorite master. One of the few people that works with titanium. His vargans look like something you may find in a UFO crash. Impeccable sound, beautiful futuristic visuals, no hassle with rust, since titanium doesnt corrode.
You may also want to look into Norwegian munnharpe masters, as they've pretty much written the book about the melodic mouth harp playing. Old masters like Folke Nesland are legendary, but very hard to find. Simen Roheim Iversen is one of the good modern masters.
I think you can order some of Babaev and Fomenkov harps from Oberton Pro.
You can also reach out to the masters directly through their web-stores or social media. They usually glad to take orders.
@@Kia044 Thank you! I’ll check if there’s a local shop around here, and i’ll keep your advice in mind.
Failing to work out Computer Generated Music.
This and a Digeridu !
Some PVC Pipe Drums... We got us a RAVE!
I need one in the key of E. Do they sell them with the key listed?
All harps have an estimated frequency range. But most of them are not tuned, and being hand-made, the makers may present slight pitch changes.
cool.
Sir…pls suggest me a E minor Scale jews harp....pls Sir...pls reply
@@MattTastic0_0 thanks
Bruh why no one talking about the tuulu away
hello, I am looking for a nice Jaw harp. I saw so many jaw harp start from DG from your web, DG861 DG815 DG777 Etc.
Is that all DG are the same quality with DG862? Can make song as loud, powerful as DG862? Thank you!
Thank you ！
Hello, all DG has the same "technical" quality - any one will give loud, saturated sound. All has unbeatable price-to-loudness ratio and extremely popular among beginners or techno/trance/timbe effects-style players. But it is only one side... Among others are: 1) Sound pitch - most simple to hear even in sound recordings. 2) Mechanics of the reed - some are good only for basic strokes; some can maintain the same timbre with any usage. 3) Sound purity / overtones clarity - it is low among all DG except DH644 (DG848 in halfway).
The prices are extremli more expensives with oberton pro on Amazon / eBay / Wish / Etsy compare to the website ...
They make money like this I think, this is not respectful for the customer. To my mind.
But this is how they do.
Excuse my English, thats because Im french ! 😉
A lot of times, in ebay or Amazon the seller will add in the shipping cost and a little more on top
I got the DG777, which was around $120 on Amazon with shipping or $73+$25 from oberton pro directly
@@ElHabsburgHechizado To tell the truth, I had only bought on Wish, a Glazyrin Lighthouse at the time and I saw that the cost was less expensive on oberton pro website. So I was a little bit upset but this was my mistake ! 🙏
Also, this is the rules of Webmarket ! 😉
2 month ago I get a fantastic Fomenkov Mahatma from Oberton.com and I am very happy with this beautiful Vargan .
Oberton pro Did a good job. 👍
Excuse my bad English, again !
You have very nice teeth
Are these going to destroy my teeth?
@@MattTastic0_0 ok! Thanks so much. Can you help me identify a trustworthy seller of the vargan on Amazon? I feel like your expertise in unquestionable.
👏👍👍🔥🔥
Outward huh ? 😅
Damn these sound really nice, wish they weren't from Russia lol
Lol you're so funny and morally superior!!!
You went politically correct!
Your banned!