Guide to Install a BLTOUCH on a Creality 32-bit Mainboard
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- Auto bed leveling is an excellent upgrade to any 3d printer. In this video, I go over how to install and setup the BLTOUCH auto bed leveling kit on an Ender 3/Ender 3 Pro with a Creality 4.2.2 mainboard, the process is the same if you have the 4.2.7 mainboard. I walk you through all parts of the process, including installing the hardware, modifying and applying the firmware, and making the necessary changes in Cura to allow it to run at the start of each print.
If you have any questions on the content covered in this video, feel free to leave a comment below with them. I try to reply to all commented within 48 hours.
Resources
Cura Profiles: 3dprintscape.com/cura-profiles
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Hardware
BLTOUCH on Amazon: geni.us/AD6M
Ender 3 Pro on Amazon: geni.us/vIAIx
Ender 3 V2 on Amazon: geni.us/ur8YHM
HATCHBOX Filament on Amazon: geni.us/BJx0Gdj
Software
Firmware: www.creality.com/download
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I hope you found this overview helpful! If you have any questions or would like other tips/tricks, just let me know in the comments or join us on Discord.
@@Hakamotive Hi. Thanks for the feedback. I have multiple bltouch videos coving the install on the SKR Mini, Creality 32-bit board, and Creality 8-bit boards and they were all meant to be stand-alone videos. If you went through each of them, I can see how it would be confusing. Unfortunately, there isn't a one-size-fits-all as it can be different across boards and people like to wire them differently. To make it more confusing, iv seen the bltouch ship with 5 different harness wiring outputs. I'm taking it you have one of the reality 32-bit boards. If that's the case and you want to stick with the reality firmware, leave the z-stop plugged in and connect all five wires from the bltouch to the bltouch port. Make sure the wires follow the table I have in the "written instructions" article I wrote that you can get to from the description of this video. Hopefully that helps as I cant provide more guidance without knowing the pinout of the bltouch you ended up getting.
Hello, thank you for this helpful video. I've got the same printer with the same V4.2.2 board and BLtouch V3.1. I've followed the steps of hardware wiring and updated the same firmware on my printer. Everything I've done was identical to the video until 10:18 mm:ss in the video. The BLtouch did not deploy and a message pops up on the screen saying "Home Z First". I've tried moving the Z-axis manually but it wouldn't go down! It moves up but it doesn't respond when I rotate the knob counterclockwise. Can you please help?
hi i am not sure what kind of ender 3 i have because i tried v1 v2 and pro and my BLtouch wont deploy when it is turned on and is flashing. the z axis also wont go down. im not sure what i am doing wrong. please help me.
@@Hakamotive Hi. How did you wire the bltouch and what firmware are you using?
@@travispelser3898 Hi. How did you wire the bltouch and what firmware are you using?
This is definitely the most informative installation video for this specific hardware combo. Thank you!
Hi. Thanks for the feedback and you’re welcome :).
Such a simple video, no firmware or custom crap I had to learn. Simple inputs got me running in like 5 minutes. Thank you so much
Hi. Thanks for the feedback and I’m glad I was able to help out :).
Thank you so much! You now have a subscriber for life! My ender pro sat for months because I couldn’t get a damn thing printed correctly on it. I finally decided to upgrade the board to avoid having to flash the board with an arduino. Low and behold, your video saved me. I’m now running Merlin and just printed one of my best benchy’s yet! Thanks again for the easy to understand instructions.
HI. Thanks for the feedback and sub, Im glad i was able to help out :).
I don't comment on video, I rarely like/subscribe but after countless unhelpful tutorials and how to's your video came through and help me sort out my problems with the Bltouch upgrade. Thank you sir and keep up the good work!
Glad I could help!
BLTouch seemed like a daunting task for my ender 3 pro but with this video i had it up and running again in about one hour. I am waiting for my calibration cube to finish but from what i saw of the first layer everything looks great. Thank you for the amazing video
Hi. Im glad it helped! You're Welcome!
Thank you so much! After an all-nighter, I made it with your tutorial by 7 am! I really appreciate your work and patience! One more time, THANK YOU!!
Hi. You're welcome. Did you get everything working?
@@3DPrintscape yes, perfectly!
thank you so much! after following half a dozen other videos, and getting lost. you actually laid it out straight forward, and i got mine installed in no time. Once finding this video.
You're welcome
yoo just finished my install thanks man. i had to watch this a few times over, but you were very thorough i took it step by step and i eventually got it all dialed in thanks again
Glad I could help :).
Thank you so much! This was the best video I found on the topic. Really appreciate it.
Hi. Thanks for the feedback, you're welcome.
Concise covered all thing needed without over complicating, my new go to for info thanks
Hi. Thanks for the feedback and you're welcome.
thank you for taking the time to help everyone including me...
Hi. You're Welcome!
Successfully installed this on my printer thanks to your videos!
Glad I could help!
This video helped me with my printer. I have a Ender 3 Pro. I`ve changed the board to a 4.2.7 and also installed and aftermarket BLTouch. With all the details and video you put into this video is awesome. Other peoples videos the quality isn`t the best and the way they try to describe how to do the process is just junk compared to your video.
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this great video and for sharing it. Muchly appreciated.
Cheers from Australia.
Hi. Thanks for the feedback, i appreciate it.
Love your stuff. Keep up the good work. As I swapped the 8 bit for the new 32 your shots of the wiring help me remember that I need to unswap two of the wires on the connector, and pointed out that I could leave the zstop in place and plug the bltouch into the... well... bltouch connector. Thank you thank you. Keep up the good work.
Glad to help
I am new to 3D printing, and sent my ender 3 back was horrible lots faults I likely got a bad one, I purchased a 5 pro and BL touch with it after my levelling experiences with the E3 lol, I was having sooo many issues getting it to go following the makers video and stumbled across this OMG you saved me! one step that wasn't clear in the creality video was causing me untold grief and that was to dial back to zero, they don't even mention it, but his simple fix solved my woe's.
Thank you so much!
Hi. Im glad i was able to help out :).
Thanks, made setting up my BL touch super easy!
You're welcome!
very helpful, thank you,got my printer back up and running
Cool, glad i could help :)
This is the only video on the internet that makes this easy. Thank you so much!
You're welcome!
this is the best video for this install. I really appreciate it. short and to the point just how it should be
Hi. Thanks for the feedback :)
Thank you for a great video. It was a great help and worked very well.
You're welcome!
Holy shit it took me more than a year to figure my bltouch out, but your way actually helped me figure it out. Thank you so much
Hi. Im glad i was able to help out :).
I have been messing around for more then a day. I used the original wires on my Ender3 Pro. After seeing your video I decided to replace the connectors of the wires on the BL touch and connected them like you show in this video. It worked instantaneous. Now I still have to adjust the Z and stuff but happy for now. When all works, I can replace the Creality software with the Marlin Firmware. Thanks a lot for the video
Hi. Im glad i was able to help :). If you are looking at going to Marlin, i would do that now as you can enable the z-offset wizard and babysteppign to help set the z-offset properly.
@@3DPrintscape I did go to Marlin, but am suffering, cant get the z offset stored. No matter wat I do, it is set at 1 or 1.3 andbI need -3.3. So I cant use my printer now
@@Rob-gd6kp Did you use the z-offset wizard? It makes things a lot easier.
@@3DPrintscape z-offset wizzard is new to me. Will look into that and try it. Thing is that my children bought the BLtouch for me and now I have it disconnected. Not e great feeling tbh. I connected it with the new connectors thta came with it and the way you showed in the video. Both options make the BL touch work, but the only problem in both cases is the Z-offset, I am printing atm, but will look at the wizzard tomorrow and give it another try. Are you still using discord? Maybe better to post my questions there?
@@Rob-gd6kp Sounds liek you really just need to get that z-offset set right and you will be good. I am on discord and the community there is growing as well, almost up to 500 people :).
Thanks really helped me. The instructions are so vague and hardware/software dependent.
Glad it helped!
Dude you rock!! Seriously if it wasn't for you I would of given up. You are the best at what you do and I mean that sincerely. Thank you.
Hi. Thanks for the feedback and im glad i was able to help :).
All in all a very helpful video. In my case the BLTouch I received was not the same, the cable connections were different - two ribbon cables, one to the Z-detector, and one 3-pin that plugged into a daughter board. The only configuration that worked on my 4.2.2 board was to plug into the daughter board. While it did in fact load the firmware from the SD micro, I had to rename the file firmware.bin in order for it to load it. Go figure. At least i can say this, i did NOT fry my MB as some have done. The tutorial here helped me get the after setup configured, gracias amigo for that, all in all a good tutorial!
Hi. Thanks for the feedback, im glad you got everything working.
very helpful and clearly spoken video
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome video. Great information. Thank you very much.
You're Welcome!
Thanks a lot this was one of the more helpful videos out there. I would like to note the file download on the Creality website is not a standard Zip file but a .rar file and my version of windows didn't know what to do with it until I added a .rar file opener from the windows downloads site. After getting that it went exactly as you explained.
Hi. Thanks for the feedback and tip. I dont recall having to do anything special to unzip the file but i may have had support for rar files already.
Hi Thank you so much for that video, and also for the ressources you gave on your website ! I went through your tutorial, everything went smooth... until I launch the printing ! And there, the printing head is a few milliters above the plate in some corner, and touch the plate in other corners ! As if it totally ignored the bed leveling it did a few seconds ago...
Hmm, try to clear defaults then set your z offset again. You may need to use baby stepping to dial it in.
You saved me pal, best video ever!!!
Hi. Thanks for the feedback :).
I have installed BLTOUCH on my ender 3 Pro on mainboard 4.2.2 - exactly as shown in you video - nad yesterday I found your z-wizard an thought this is the answer to all my problems
Hi. The z offset wizard is great, its just not enabled in the Creality firmware (at least it wasnt the last time i checked).
@@3DPrintscape - Ok but after at least 25 views of the suggested video - Guide to install a BLTouch ... I finally had succes. Thank you for your support
Actually, this has been the most straightforward and easiest to follow (for a Newbie) that I have found. My only problem/ or suggestion is to make a vid for the Ender 3 MAX. I can't seem to find one that makes any sense at all. The ones that claim they are for the MAX show a completely different LCD screen (and options) than the one I have.
Hi. If i can pick up a Max for cheap i will do a video on it. For now, i think joining the discord server, invite is in the video description, would help you out a lot. I know several people on there have the Max.
I have a Creality CR-20 PRO and when my BL Touch V3.0 wore out, I bought another BL Touch V3.1. That was last year and I'm dead in the water because it won't work on the printer. I hope to find the answer to my problem on your videos. Thanks for making them!
Hi. If you need more help you can reach out on here or on discord.
after 5 hours of beating my head against a brick wall...i found this video and fixed all my issues!
Hi. Im glad i was able to help out :).
Sir, you literally saved me. Thank you
Happy to help
Thank you so much! Creality didn't give much information at all
You're very welcome!
Great video I was able to install the bl touch and the software but when I go to bed leveling then level bed I get home Z first
Hi. Try to run an autohome first.
thanks so much your a legend
You're Welcome!
You are so helpful
Hi. Thanks for the feedback :)
I’m not computer savvy. Welder mechanic by trade. I think a some quite a few people get printers do couple things run in problems and then mostly sit. My opinion some of people I know personally. Thanks great videos. Keep those video’s rolling and stay safe.
Hi. Thanks for sharing. Ive seen a lot of the same behavior, which is one of the reasons i started 3d printscape.
Thanks! easy flow how to video
You're welcome!
I bought a BLtouch for my 8 bit board but could not install the necessary support into Marlin as memory was too small. Then I bought a 32 bit board and a CRtouch. Surprisingly I could not physically mount the CRtouch as its location is obstructed by the anchor at the end of the X-toothed belt. However there is room, just, for the BLtouch. Finally another surprise. The cable for the BLtouch swaps the order of the red/blue wires whereas the CRtouch cable is straight through. What fun.
Should have said its an Ender-5.
Hi. Were you able to get everything working? The pinout needed for the 8 bit boards is different than the 32 bit ones. I would recommend looking at what the pins are and make sure they are in the right order.
@@3DPrintscape I didn't want to risk burning something out with crossed wires so I abandoned that BLtouch and forced the CRtouch in place. It was a hassle but seems to be rock steady. Bed Level works just fine.
Thank you very much!
You're welcome!
This is a great video! Out of curiosity, do you plan on doing an install tutorial for setting up a btt smart filament sensor on the Creality 32bit board? Ive been trying to get mine working for ages, but no matter what I do, it basically permanently reads as having no filament
Hi. Thanks for the feedback. I have a placeholder on my backlog for it but wsnt sure it would work, so i have been pushing it off. I can look into doing it in the next month or so though.
So glad i found this vid. I started at 9:30 pm when my kid got home thinking it was gonna be quick. The instructions were completely wrong after seing 1 vid on where to put the one wire and a little smoke i found another that said flip 2 wires i and it finaly looked like it was gonna work aaaannnddd now i have z access issue. Finaly at 3:30 am i see this on putting the2 wire pug next to 3 wire plug and leaving the original switch in place. Now its finaly working enough i can sleep. Gonna finish up in the morning
im also getting the z access issue. ill try doing what you did.
Hi. Sorry you ran into so many issues. I know this comment is a couple of days old but If your still having issues I can try to help out. You can also reach me on Discord discord.gg/Bu94EYVkrU .
Awesome vid! I now you did not compile your firmware in this vid but in the next one can you show us how to change the grid point number? Your the best!!!
Hi. Ya i can cover that in the video i do on building custom firmware.
First of all, great video. Your channel is by far the most helpful I found so far. Had my ender 3 pro for three days and you helped a lot. Consider me subscribed!
Now, quick question if I may, when I choose the level bed option, it only probes 1/9 then stops and says “end stops z”. What am I missing?
Hi. Thanks for the feedback and sub :). What board and firmware are you using and is the z stop connected?
@@3DPrintscape Hey Rob, thanks, I have the 4.4.2 board. I have the Z stop connected. I am sorry for the stupid question, but which of your firmware should I use? Also, my bltouch connector is an all in one plug if that makes sense?
@@sinver147 The name of the creality firmware file you would want to use is Ender-3 Pro- Marlin2.0.1 - V1.1.2 - ALT.bin
I realize this is an old video by now, but how at 5:40 how did you get the cable end connectors to stay in the header? Mine are so loose that they fall out and never really feel like they're making a good connection. Thanks for the tutorial!
Hi. They just connected and stayed. If yours is loose, you could use hot glue to make sure they stay.
hi great vid. my question is do i need to bring the bed all the way down or at what position is the bed need to be at when adjusting the z thank you
Hi. The bed just needs to be somewhat level. The exact z-position wont make a difference as the bltouch detects where it is.
Great video. Everything is showed in such a clear way that it is impossible to fail! I have just a question: if I set Z MIN PROBE ENDSTOP INVERTING to TRUE the compiling fails asking me to change it to FALSE. I have an ENDER 3 PRO with 4.2.2 motherboard. thanks for all!
Hi. Thanks for the feedback. There was a change made made to the bugfix line after i made this video, so that value now needs to be set to false.
@@3DPrintscape nice to know! thanks
Hello, thank you for your video. It was truly very useful. I followed the steps in your video, and the BLTouch seems to be working. The issue arises when it starts sensing the bed height; the first 3 points it measures are outside of the bed, could this be a firmware problem? I'm using Ender-3 with Marlin 2.0.6, HW 4.2.2, BLTouch GD firmware from August 16, 2022. The board I'm using in my Ender is the same as yours, V4.2.2. Do you have any ideas on how I could solve this problem? Thank you very much in advance!
Hi. It could be an issue with settings in the eeprom. Try restoring the default settings in the menu to see if that changes anything.
Thank you
You're welcome!
Great video. Thanks for showing us this process. I followed it to set up my printer. My BLTouch doesn’t seem to store the bed mesh and then execute on it. My bed is daily level but I don’t see the machine adjusting the z axis when moving around the board. What stores the mesh level data? Do we need to put an M500 code in to store it? I know enough to be dangerous. What guidance would you have?
Hi. I believe its stored in the EEPROM but i would need a lot more info on your setup to be able to provide any real advice. Can you enter that here, including board and firmware version or on discord? discord.gg/Bu94EYVkrU
@@3DPrintscape I can't remember where I saw it but this is my method.
In Cura, once connected to printer send G28 to home, G29 for ABL and M500 to store to eeprom.
In start gcode after the G28 command enter:
M420 S1
this will recall last stored mesh
@@roberthobbs5459 Ive seen that as well, i just prefer to run the mesh every time.
Nice vid. Would love to see a similar vidio for SKRs E3 mini v2 thank you XD
Hi. Thanks for the feedback. I cover most of the install process your looking for in this video. th-cam.com/video/Vn5rMdJgkAI/w-d-xo.html If you run into issues, or have questions, you can message me here or on Discord. discord.gg/Bu94EYVkrU
@@3DPrintscape I'm having curling issues. Do you know what could cause this?
@@commonelectra2131 Its probably from lack of adhesion or the build plate not being level.
Thanks for explaining but how would you do the preference to change it to do the mesh layer on Mac?
Hi. I would need to make a video on this, so i will add it to my backlog. There are a lot of little difference so it would be hard to cover them all without doing a video or making a guide.
thank you! can you use a filament runout sensor and bltouch at the same time? I heard some folks say it plugs next to the X limit switch and others say you need the Ezout board. 🤷🏻♂️🤦♂️
Hi. I know you can with the Creality and SKR board, i cant say for sure with a Ezout board.
@@3DPrintscape cool..i have the 4.2.2 board
@@mrburns366 Ah ok, then you should be good.
Will you please do a video on the Creality CR Touch?
Hi. I will look into it a bit more and see what i can do.
thank you
You're welcome
So I found your video after I installed a 4.2.7 mainboard and a BLTouch and had the issue of the Z axis not lowering like others have had. Today I decided to double check all the connections like I saw that you had recommended to others, and low and behold I found the issue. I was wearing my loupes that have some pretty good magnification so I could check what colors were attached to what on the BLTouch, and make sure everything was connected correctly on the main board. Everything was in the correct order but I found that with the two pin connector going to the main board had one of the inside pins that would move backwards in the plastic housing causing it to not make a connection. My touch was not from Creality and I wonder if there is some issue with manufacturing with some of the clone versions. I also wonder if this is a common issue that causes so many headaches for people. If I had not been wearing my loupes I would never have found this issue. Thanks for the video and keep up the great work!
Hi. Thanks for the info and feedback. I have seen a lot of connection issues similar to what you are describing. It makes things difficult to troubleshoot remotely because everything looks fine to the owner. Ive also seen the same thing start happening mid way through running a mesh. I think the additional movement in that cases the connectors to move about.
Do you need to disconnect the z axis switch when you install one of these? Great video by the way!👍👍👍😀
Hi. No, you can leave it connected.
@@3DPrintscape great, thanks for the reply. 👍👍👍
@@LScott97 You're Welcome
Hi Rob great channel. I know you will be busy, but when you get some time, could you do video on setting up the combined bundle of a BLTouch V3.1, an SKR Mini E3 V2.0 and the TFT35 E3 V3.0. ( update 27 now) I have had a job setting this up. There are a few videos out there ( some saying remove the Z stop some saying leave it on) but some have bits missing due to the latest firmware available which is confusing, as there are several ways to run it and the screens are different. So a dedicated video from start to finish would be great. Cheers.
Hi. I will see what i can do but this guide will probably help you out a bit. 3dprintscape.com/bltouch-on-skr-mini-install-guide/
@@3DPrintscape Thanks. I have managed to sort things out with try and see. I have only the bltouch 5 pin connectect with no seperate z connector (I know i could leave the z one as a safety buffer) but could refit it later.. The screen on the v27 update is different to what i have found. I know you can't do an update every time one is released so i will wait and see.
Hello Again - I bought a BLTouch set for my Ender3 Pro - and when I got to the part where I should fix the kabel, I realised I had purchased the the wrong kit. So I put it back to where I starded - I hade not use firmware update or anyting. The I tried it - but now it could not go to autohome and I have not found any solution in any of your videos - so now I will order the right BLtouch and try you "guide to install a BLTOUCH on a Crelity 32-bit mainboard. I will tell you how it goes!
Hi. You could make any of the v2 or higher ones work but getting one with the 5 pin adapter makes it easer. Let me know if you run into issues.
Can you get a female end to go on the end of your cable to plug the BL Touch into? I have ordered the same kit and thought I would end up with a copy of BL Touch as it is much cheaper than buying it directly but I am much more confident seeing you receiving the real Mcoy
Hi. The kit came with connectors that can be used but i didnt like them and you would still need to use an extension cable or make your own.
great video but my kit had the wires in the wrong spot I think. my connector from left to right is yellow red blue, what is the correct order so I can move them? i have the 4.22 board
Hi. It would be blue/red/yellow from left to right.
Thank for the video great help.
I have the ender 3 pro and the mainboard is V4.2.2. I just purchased the creality BLTouch v3.1. I got on the creality support site to download the firmware but the only available one is for mainboard V4.2.7
Do you have a link for the 4.2.2 firmware please
Thank you
Hi. Ya, you gran grab that from my site. 3dprintscape.com/marlin-firmware-builds/
@@3DPrintscape thank you so much for the help
@@tonyaramouni2368 You're Welcome
Coming back to this, while leveling you dont turn the bed spring wheels at all?
Hi. You would need to adjust the wheels to level the bed out.
I just bought an ender 3 pro with the silent 4.2.7 motherboard,bltouch and touch screen upgrade kit. After auto homing I can’t get the z axis to move in the negative to set the z offset compensation.
Hi. It sounds like the software endstop is enabled. You can disable that by sending the m211 s0 command to your printer.
HI Rob,
Before I make a hasty purchase, I have been looking for an extension cable for the BL Touch that is suitable for the Ender 3 Pro (4.2.2) board. I have seen plenty of your video's and have seen you splice your wires. Do you know of extensions cables that are already complete that you can just connect from the BL Touch to the board? Any links you know of would be great? I have all the other bits ready, i.e. software prepared and sensor mounted. I just need to extend the wires. Great informative video's on installation and prep in other videos so thank you. Al
Hi. All of the cables i have seen on amazon only have the one connector or are stupid expensive for what you get. This one may work, but the reviews are hit or miss. www.amazon.com/ACTOO-Connector-Power-Female-Adapter/dp/B07GGJGB7Q
@@3DPrintscape Thanks Rob,
I will look into this. Thanks again for your input and I value your time. I will look forward to more of your videos and Happy New Year to you. Al 😀
hello, great video but for some reason my printer will not recognize my sd card and will say no tf, but when i do get it to work with the probing and all, once it starts printing the plastic and i start to do small tuneing on it it stops moving in the middle and i get no responce from the screen so i end up having to turn off the machine
Hi. Take a look at this video and give the firmware i call out there a try. th-cam.com/video/t4QE1jPncms/w-d-xo.html
First of all appreciate everything you do for everyone including myself. Followed your video several times and continue to have problems. I am a newbie at 3d printing and that's why I've purchased this printer because after rebates it was $99.99. with that being said my z probe is -2.4 but when I kick off a print as it's going through the 9 point level check when bl touch probe hits nozzle isn't even close to the bed. I've done this several times and for the life of me I'm stumped. Had this thing forever and can't print on it. Could other things/printer parts be bad? Wanted to upgrade but I want practice before getting better printer. Thanks in advance
Hi. If you try to move the carriage does it have a lot of give? If so, tighten that up.
@@3DPrintscape no, carriage is nice and tight. How can I follow you on discord to make communication easier. Or do you think the printer is a lost cause?
There is a link in the video description to join the discord channel.
Sorry I was terribly frustrated that night. I was very abrupt, and ultimately inaccurate with my message. Though I bought one of the newest, most popular entry level printers available, an ender 3 pro with the 4.2.2 main board. And I have the version 3.1 BL Touch level probe, one of the newest of those., I ultimately couldn't get it to function properly. As for software, I followed your guide video but that failed so I went on to try probably 8 other versions of firmware from creality and other sources. Marlin with BL Touch etc. Some seemed to work with homing and the z offset calibration. Properly following the test pattern, even deploying properly at a full nine probing locations, only to fail miserably by skimming along at 1/16 of an inch above the surface of the build plate when it was supposed to be laying down plastic. I "did" obviously not break the probe tip as I though when it collided brutally with the build plate and seemed to fly off somewhere across the room. But it had actually managed to retract upon impact and it only looked at a glance that it hadn't survived. If you have any suggestions I would welcome them. It's really something that BL Touch didn't match their product with one of the most popular printers on the market. Maybe I could pick up one of the clones, if people are actually getting them to work where BL Touch has failed. Oh btw, the connections were a spliced extended harness I made up when Matterhackers sent me a probe and nothing else. I'm sure you're familiar with the white, five position connector specifically for the probe on that 4.2.2 board. I made up an electrically sound harness of 5, 26 gauge stranded wires, solder spliced and protected in 1/2 inch braided sheath all the way down into the controller housing and basically following the diagram precisely. And to my credit it functioned at times going thru all the motions but for being too high off the build plate when time came to print. Certainly nothing wrong with my connections. If you know of a different probe that has had success with my 4.2.2 model main board, and what firmware works with the imagined pairing please let me know as I am prepared to shell out the cost of an additional probe if it will get me the desired result. I appreciate you anticipated help. Sincerely..
Hi. No problem, i understand. 3D printing can be very frustrating sometimes lol. My guess is that the wiring isnt right, ive seen them shipped wired liek 10 different ways. Can you send me a picture of the wiring on the board and bltouch side? Also, dont use the transfer board on a 32-bit board. Not sure if you are or not but its only caused problems for me.
@@3DPrintscape Alright. Tried everything and I'm a retired electro-mechanical tech with a lot of experience with automation. But you have worked with these machines a lot more than me so I appreciate your advice. So I bought another brand new BL Touch with harness. Round two! I also ordered some metallic sheathing to run the wires through for protection from e/m interference. What I really need from you is a link and description to the right firmware to install. I have the Ender 3 Pro with the 4.2.2 mainboard, and I ordered the Version 3.1 BL Touch. If you have a link and can point me to firmware I can install by just copying onto MicroSD card and power up system to flash the controller I would be tickled. If I must edit Marlin firmware likewise please point me to the correct files needed and a good video that shows the marlin editing and flashing process. But again, if there's firmware out there already edited and compiled, ready to just copy onto sd card and boot up system with it in the sd card drive, then that's the route I'd prefer to take. Thanks in advance. Happy Printing!
@@johnrost2828 I just started a page where im providing firmware builds for people to download. That happens to be one of the builds I already have out there. 3dprintscape.com/marlin-firmware-builds/
Hey i just followed ur guide and i gotta say, its wayyy more helpful than the creality version. I keep having an issue and that is after i flashed the firmware, the nozzle keeps crashing into the bed even tho the bltouch probe touches the bed wayy earlier. what should i do?
Hi. What firmware are you using, how is the bltouch wired, and can you verify that it uploaded to the printer correctly?
@@3DPrintscape im using the ender 5 pro firmware that creality provides (specifically the one without the adapter board) and it did upload to the printer properly. It is wired exactly how urs in the video is wired.
@@rushildasari7502 Does the probe self test work correctly?
@@3DPrintscape yeah
it goes up and down if thats what you mean
@@rushildasari7502 This may be difficult to troubleshoot over TH-cam. Can you email me pictures of your wiring? My email is admin@3dprintscape.com.
Hi, wonderful video - thank you! All went well, except I'm now having the same "Home Z First" issues that Segio was having below. It started to print once, but the nozzle was too high so I was going to start the process of adjusting the Z offset. After the first adjustment, I got the "Home Z First" error and the Z axis wouldn't go down, even when I used the Prepare/Move Axis/Z Axis option (after I powered off and on, the Prepare/Move Axis/Z Axis option worked fine). Did you ever find out a solution to this? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
Hi. I the solution varied based on the actual issue. If you want to join us on discord, we can try to help more. discord.gg/Bu94EYVkrU
@@3DPrintscape Sounds good, thank you!
hi did you figure the home z problem? its be doing my head in for months. i cant get it to lower to bed
very helpful video. I am running on exactly the same upgrade with ender 3 pro and bltouch with no adapter. board 4.2.2. all routines in auto-home seem ok.
Did you find that when moving the z axis to calibrate the z axis didnt move at all? all other axis ok, but on the last working firmware from creality (20 april 2020 w bltouch) it does not work so I cannot callibrate z offset. do you have any idea of what can it be?.
Regards,
Hi, thanks for the feedback. I didnt notice that when I was on the Creality firmware but, to be honest, I wasn't running it that long. I ended up moving over to Marlin 2.0 with bug fixes. I made a video covering that which you can see here th-cam.com/video/pQ7WZST8sqk/w-d-xo.html .
This is very helpful! Any chance you could do this for the ender 3 max?
Hi. I dont have an Ender 3 Max, so i cant make a video on it right now. That said, it has a Creality 32-bit main board, so the process should pretty much be the same. If you decide to go for it and run into issues, let me know and i will try to help out.
@@3DPrintscape thank you so much
@@davidjohnson8474 You're Welcome
@@3DPrintscape hi Rob well im trying to put this on my ender 3 max and I cant figure out the firmware? I downloaded from creality and put it on a card and its formated to FAT32. But it wont download? Im stuck can you help?
@@davidjohnson8474 What size SD card are you using and what is the filename for the firmware you are trying to upload?
This video is great! I'm pretty sure I made a mistake somewhere though. So when I do the Bed Level test, the first stop in the middle was fine, when it goes to the next spot, left corner closest to you, initially it did go down but then was driving to far into the bed going to far and stressing the motor. Immediately shut it off and rebooted. the next attempt at the second stop, the Z axis went up instead of down. I Then I hit restore Failsafe on it and it starting working again. However after the leveling I went to Auto Home and attempted to set the Z-axis, but the Z-axis doesn't move at all. Any ideas? Thanks a bunch!
Hi. Thanks for the feedback and sorry to hear that you are having issues. I would need to take a look at your config files to really be able to help. You can email them to me, or send them to me on discord. Email is admin@3dprintscape.com , discord is discord.gg/Bu94EYVkrU .
What about heat expansion? Should we be preheating before the initial test? Also, turning the printer on its side would mess with the Z wouldn't it? The paper test only takes a few minutes to get close. Would it be wise to do the old school method before using the auto level?
Hi. You will want to preheat everything before leveling to get the best reading. Turning the printer on its side will mess with many things including the z axis to a point so you will need to relevel after doing that. I also level the build plate after installing the bltouch to give it a good starting point. The more unlevel it is the more the steppers have to work.
Hi,
I was wondering if you could help, my printer came with a bltouch but it only has the short leads like the one you purchased. It did come with a longer set of leads but they go to a single plug not 2 like you showed. Is there any way you could do a video showing which plugs you fitted to the leads you extended. Thanks
Hi. I would just get some ribbon cable with the same colors, cut the wire on one side (leaving enough room to work with), then connect the wires on both sides. That's basically what i ended up doing.
I'm having issues where the BLtouch fails during bed leveling at random points. Sometimes 3/9, sometimes 8/9, etc. I was able to successfully run through it once but each print it ends up failing. I replaced the BLtouch and this one does the same thing, except now its not retracting the pin after failing. Did everything exactly as you did in the video, except my kit came with the 5pin cable from Creality.
Hi. It sounds like you may have a loose connection. I would go back and check the wiring again. Looks to make sure the pins are fully in the adapter and making contact with the board. Also, follow the wire back to make sure there isnt any slices in it.
@@3DPrintscape Thanks for the reply. I've checked the wiring and it seems to be good. I tried the TH3D firmware and I've ran the levelling about 20 times without issue. Switching back to Creality firmware, it fails within 1 or 2 runs of the bed levelling.
@@andremaury9861 Based on that, the issue is clearly with the Creality firmware, though it does seem odd.
thanks for the helpfull video but my screen is a bit buggy and he stops in the middle of a proces and i can't do anything would that be the older firmware or maybe that my main board is damaged ?
Hi. There is a known issue with the glitchy screen, i cover it more here. th-cam.com/video/t4QE1jPncms/w-d-xo.html
I have the same connectors/wire setup as yours, but the connectors that plug into the mobo are very loose. Feels like they will likely fall out. Did you modify your connectors in any way, or does it sound like I just have a bad connector?
Hi. I didnt modify the connectors, but i have heard people have a similar experience to what your seeing. I would recommend using some hot glue to hold everything in place.
Would you be able to provide firmware configuration settings for an ender 3 pro, with the 2.4.7 board, and the BL Touch 3.1.
Hi. I actually started building some firmware bundles. You can download them from here. 3dprintscape.com/marlin-firmware-builds/
Do i need to move the z axis switch, i have mine all the way down
Hi. If your still using using the z stop, you will want to make sure its positioned properly. That said, if you didnt change your build plate, where it is should be fine.
Hi, this is a great video. I have successfully installed the BL touch and followed all the steps exactly as described. However, every time I start a print, the extruder crashes on to my print bed and grinds into the surface. I am not sure what I am missing. I have a Creality Ender 3 w/ a 32-bit board (v4.2.2)
Hi. It sounds like the wiring and firmware dont match. How is the printer wired and what firmware are you using?
@@3DPrintscapeThank you so much for the response - truly appreciate your help. The firmware I am using is from the Creality website: Marlin ver 1.3.1 (Apr 25, 2020). I picked up the one from the folder named "Marlin2.0.1 BL touch V1.3.1with-adapter firmware" - the file name is Ender-3 - Marlin2.0.1- V1.3.1- BLTouch.bin
The wiring is done per the instructions & product manual: the 2 black and white wires from the BL touch are connected to the z-offset pins (it was previously connected to the z-limit switch which I removed). I've used the adapter board for the other 2 connections: 1) the display cable connected to the 10-pin 2) the other 3 wires from the BL touch are connected to the 3 pins on the adapter board Yellow -> SIG, Blue -> GND and Red -> VCC
I have a different problem though that I cannot cover the control box as the adapter board comes in the way of the fan but I am just covering the control box the best I can and used a tape outside
@@skvclips The creality firmware won't work with it being used for the z-homing. I would drop the adapter board (Not meant for the 32 bit boards), connect all five wires to the bltouch port (make sure the wire order is correct, sounds like you will need to swap the positive and negative in the adapter), then connect the z-stop back up. After that, make sure your using the normal bltouch firmware, not the one with the transfer board.
Hello Rob, thanks a ton again for the guidance & help. The BL touch upgrade kit documentation is very different. I rewired based on your video - I did swap the Gnd and V connections. I then used the BL Touch firmware (without the adapter board) & powered up the printer. So far so good
I will next try setting the z-offset, bed-leveling & try a new print. There's still some work to do but wanted to send you a note on the progress. Thanks again - truly appreciate it. I have been breaking my head for several hours trying to get this to work
One more question: I'd like to join the discord that you mentioned but when I follow the link and click on the accept invite I get an error saying 'Unable to accept invite'
@@skvclips Im glad to hear your making good progress. I checked the discord link and its still active, others are joining with it. The server requires you to have a validated email address but I think that's the only limitation. I generated another link to test with, try this one out. discord.gg/AMegShAuNs
Hi there and thanks for a the helpful info. Do I leave my z axix limit switch plugged in? Because in the BL touch manual it said to unplug it, but it's not working...
Hi. You would leave it plugged in. Creality has a specific firmware build where they wanted it removed, not sure why, all this did was complicate things for the users.
@@3DPrintscape thank you so much. I'm still dealing with screen glitch issues and a problem with Bed Leveling automatically switching off between prints, which causes the mesh to fail before prints. I moved to your 512k bug fix FW, but still no luck, unfortunately.
@@danielcrowe318 Try to move back to the 256k version.
One question: How do you set up bed-leveling so that it happens automatically before each print?
Hi. You would add the G29 command to your machine profile in Cura. I cover that in more detail in the written instructions that you can get to from the video description.
@@3DPrintscape Thanks. I had already done that but did not realize it until this morning. Keep up the great work and videos. Thanks again.
Hi wonder if u can help got ender 3 Pro with dual gear extruder board is a 4.2.7 with a bl touch I'm trying to to work out the filament extruding speed will be great help
Hi. I have two videos coving e-steps and flow rates, i think they will help you. th-cam.com/video/_js-xFvznxU/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/3PtS9vVCev8/w-d-xo.html
Other videos tell you to pull-out Z stop, no explanation, thank you for helping
Hi. I would leave it in. There are some creality builds that want it removed but most marlin builds expect it to be there.
Hi, I upgraded my ender 3 pro with a 4.2.2 board. Due to another youtube video I already had an attempt to update the firmware. However something went wrong and I now have a blue screen an nothing works, also you process described in your video.
Any idea how I can get my printer running?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Michael
Hi. Try to add the date to the end of the file name to make it unique and also make sure the sd card you are using is 8gb or less and fat32 formatted.
what if we have custom board 4.2.2 but decide to unplug the z stop-do you have any videos on what the custom firmware should be?
Hi. Assuming you are connecting the probe stop to the z stop, i cover that in a bit more detail in this article. 3dprintscape.com/guide-to-install-a-bltouch-on-a-creality-32-bit-mainboard/ If you have all five wires connected to the bltouch port, then you should be able to just remove the z stop if you wanted.
quick question. Is this the same process for the E3 Max?
Hi. It should be, i think the mounting bracket for the max is a little different though. I know the CR Touch comes with a separate one for it.
Thanks. Yes the kit comes with 3 brackets. All seems to work just fine. Great guide BTW.
You still need to add the mesh command inside cura?
Hi. You dont need to but i recommend doing so. If you dont, the printer will fall back to whats it has saved for the mesh.
I bought my bltouch second hand (still brand new in box) it came with a usb ISP, two other small boards, the 3 wire Dupont pin I had to rearrange the blue and red wires, and the white and black wires are in a connector that fits in the z axis spot and not the spot you put it in. Any idea what this extra stuff is?
Hi. It sounds like you got an older one meant for the 8 bit boards. They didnt have a bltouch port and you had to use a transition board. If you set the pinout correctly and connected it to the bltouch port (all 5 pins) it should work fine.
Hey there, i'm having also issues with bed leveling, at ranomd points (1/9, sometimes 7/9..) . I am using Marling 2.x Bugfix version, configured everything correct. I have an Ender 3 with 4.2.7 silent board, using the 5 pin connector. After many fails, i soldered the cables to the 5 pin, looks like its a bit better, but still got the issue randomly. Any suggestions on that?
Hi. The only time i see the probe randomly fail like that is if the wires are being pulled on and come loose or the bed is too unlevel (i think more than a 2mm variance between highest and lowest probe).
@@3DPrintscape Many thanks for your answer. I was trying around and figured out, that the BL touch nut (which holds the magnet thingy) was tooo tightend. I just changed that a little bit, now 5 bed levelings were successfully.. finally.
Why didn't you use the 2 springs that came with the BLTouch on your mounting screws?
Hi. You dont want the bltouch to move, it will mess with your z-offset.
I unplugged the Bl touch and plugged it back in and is now working. I had to add the software for the Bl touch and now when I auto home t will not lower the print head and he Bl touch shuts off
Hi. The autohome will end at +10, it doesnt go down to the build plate. The z offset is what accounts for the difference and that only comes into plat when the print starts.
@@3DPrintscape when I auto home it goes to he corner then back to the middle and does not go down to touch the bed and the BL touch shuts off and the is a weird noise coming from the motor and there is a blue light on the Bl touch
@@ronaldpeel7288 It sounds like there may be a wiring issue. I would review everything there first.
Hi! When I try to level the bed (around 10:00 in the vid) my bed doesn't home. A few seconds later, I get a "PRINTER HALTED Please Reset" message. My printer has the exact specifications as the one in the video. Any recommendations?
Hi. What firmware are you using, how is the bltouch wired, and is your z stop connected?
Im late to the game but do you need to remove the original Z switch that came with the ender 3? Does the BLTouch and the original Z switch work together.?
Hi. You only need to remove it if your connecting the probe stop to it. If your connecting all five wires to the bltouch port it can stay. You can configure the z stop to be a fail safe in case the bltouch doesn't work.
Just a question. After I installed the BLTouch firmware on my ender 3 pro the screen started to glitch making it practically unusable. Along with that it says I don’t have media in but I do. Do you know what I should do?
Hi. This is a common issue. I go into it, and a fix, in this video. th-cam.com/video/t4QE1jPncms/w-d-xo.html