eh some of it isn't bad, Twitter is good for shining a light on shitty behavior that otherwise gets ignored. But there are a few too many fake-progressives who have problematic views of their own who like to try and shame others to deflect from their own shortcomings. Rami Ismael comes to mind, with his stupid whining and blindly accusing the devs of the upcoming video game Six Days in Fallujah of being racist towards people like him(even though he himself wasn't actually born in the Middle East anywhere close to where the real life Fallujah battle happened, he was born in Egypt)and then Rami himself ended up being racist towards black people, leading to several black activists on Twitter rightfully calling him out for him being an insensitive bigoted hypocritical jackass and he locked down his Twitter for several days, and apparently that wasn't the first time Rami made an ass of himself online like that by being bigoted towards other races.
@@jadedheartsz Yeah I know there's good parts, I just feel a lot of it gets lost in a sea of people being offended on someone else's behalf while missing the reason why they're getting offended
@@jprofio that's true, I remember when that Ghost in the Shell live-action movie came out and people were bitching about ScarJo getting cast in the lead and the vast majority of people I saw complaining about it were not minorities but other white people, which struck me as odd, I saw a few black folks complain about it but not many. Funny thing is Hollywood wasn't even to blame for this one, the Japanese company insisted on casting a white female lead because Japan worships white people.
Yeah, bc it's to use idpol to distract against the only thing that actually matters in politics: class. Unfortunately, Americans have long been brainwashed to ignored class and replace it with "minority groups" so you get spoiled little girlbosses who think they are the bravest pinnacle of "woke" morality for forcing a school to get rid of some old fuck's name while happily ignoring the fact their daddy's company gets rich using child slave labor (Fun fact, Nestle just got sued by its former child slaves and of course the supreme court sided with Nestle bc they agree that its actually good to force poor 8yos to slave for bread 18hrs a day in the equatorial heat. That's just smart business practices).
@@Clay3613 how? I fail to understand how pointing out how this statement is comparable to real life is an example of what-about-ism. What-about-ism is typically used to minimize the blame of one group by pointing out the short comings of another. I, however, am not trying to defend anyone. I am merely making a sly comment about the reality of the world as a cynical response to this comment that is analyzing a film. Nothing about that describes what-about-ism, especially considering that I'm not even defending this film, or anything for that matter. It really just seems like the smallest criticism of the military industrial complex made you mad for some reason, so you're using whatever hot term you learned from whatever debate bro you watch on Twitch, without actually understanding what that term means.
@@MissSallyB1 man, it's almost like I made a non sequitur response on purpose for the sake of making a separate point that came to mind from this comment that is also simultaneously divorced from this comment.
They kind of already did with A Nightmare on Elm Street. Seriously, those parent did not have concrete proof that Fred Kruegar actually murder and molest those kids
it almost sounds like the writers and director put just enough kills/violence in to make it seem like a slasher, but only to get money out of blumhouse to do this pseudo remake. but really it was just to be woke and and be super obvious with its message.
I was so confused when I caught the last half hour or so of this movie on TV last Christmas. I was like, "Wait, isn't this supposed to be Black Christmas? The movie where the woman is killed with the plastic bag and her body is left in the attic? Wasn't that movie really grounded and scary?" I thought maybe there was a mistake with my TV guide, and the Black Christmas title was being displayed over an unrelated movie. But, nope. This mess actually has the utter gall to exist under the Black Christmas name. It's almost surreal how bad and dumb it is.
Yeah, I think they should be made to change the name. They literally Just used it to get arses in seats. Not only that but they also stole from The Shining and one of the Exorcist films. From The Shining, one of the characters does the "I'm not being grouchy" line. And from Exorcist, they shamelessly rip off a famous Jump scare, where nothing happens for a few minutes and then someone appears behind the character and we zoom in before cutting away. It's creepy in the Exorcist. It's dumb in this.
The original definitely isn't even remotely close to being a classic anything. Just because something is old doesn't suddenly make it good.....The original Black Christmas is mediocre meh at best, the 06 remake was still mediocre but at least kinda had some entertaining kills.
Nah, there’s definitely worse remakes then black Xmas. The fog, psycho, the omen, poltergeist, the wicker man, and especially the prom night remake are all much worse then that in my opinion. But yes, black xmas 2019 is the worse of them all
Part of me thinks there should be a drinking game where someone takes a shot every time the phrase "toxic masculinity" is spoken... But then I realize those playing would die of alcohol poisoning before the review was even over!
@kaza12345678 I disagree; I've met plenty of women who are exceptional alcoholics and could drink most men under the table, then piss their beds with the best of them.
This is fanfiction levels of writing. The authors can't have their self-insert character being worse that the villains, so the villains are defeated with ease. And any pretence of horror is gone. Even if you want to have your Big Heroes moment, at least show the killers as a threat.
How many horror films these days have the villain be a threat for the tiny, teenage, female heroes? Or films in general have any male be a threat for the strong wahmen.
Yeah, this is making the 2006 version look more like a faithful adaptation than this one hour Twitter argument that is too cowardly to show a drop of blood.
We all wish it was, this somehow makes the 2006 remake look like a freakin underrated masterpiece, least that movie was willing to go all out with the insanity with the killer making cookies out of human skin!
@@TrueBuddhaCat I remember conservatives hated the 2006 remake. Michael Medved blamed the Movie on a fight that broke out in a theater. The Right can do the whole soapbox thing also
@@htruman They did? Didn't know that; and I'm not saying the right can't do the whole soapbox thing as well which is why I'm on the "you are all stupid" side of things
@@TrueBuddhaCat Fair enough. They also were not happy with Bad Santa. I'm surprise the makers of God's not dead didn't do was on christmas, especially after what happen to the fox news christmas tree.
True story I saw this movie in theaters and half way through I walked out and got my money back the manager laughed saying I wasn't the first one to ask for money back
This movie is like someone wrote a satirical comedy making fun of the idea super woke and politically correct pg-13 slashers and the studio took that script and made it like it was supposed to be a straight up horror movie. The tonal whiplash of the concept and the execution is ridiculous
The sad thing is with some better (or any) character development, better dialogue, some gore, and removing the supernatural element, this could be good. College assault is scary and peer pressure and group think can be scary and be useful in creating scary villains.
Considering the professor ringleader is a raging psychopath, it could have been legitimately horrifying. Murderous cults can exist, and all it would have taken is a script re-write.
yeah this film could've worked, but it NEVER should've been called Black Christmas as it has basically jack shit to do with the other two films aside from some minor easily missed references.
@@jadedheartsz True, if they still wanted this to be a "Black Christmas " movie they would also need to lean more into the Christmas imagery and include Billy in some capacity. Maybe have Billy be a campus legend like Ted Bundy who the villains use as an inspiration or cover for their crimes.
This film could never work unless it was entirely rewritten from the ground up and not called black christmas. At which point it means the movie could never work. I mean come on, magic statue cult that makes guys evil, but doesnt even follow its own logic by only having one guy stop being comically evil when its broken? If thats your plot most of the evil guys should have been turned back to normal after it was broken. Instead the movie was written to push an agenda where only the white guys stayed evil even tho it doesnt logically make sense with their mythology they created.
Yeah the supernatural element is actually insulting in context. So toxic masculinity is actually just a magic spell cast against guys' wishes? They can't play an active role in it at all? The writers are women- either they're really bad or this had some really awful studio suggestions. It would be more effective to (1) maybe have the leads be women in a more traditional sorority which totally still exist so they aren't already suspicious of these guys and (2) have the guys act friendly like in Promising Young Woman so it's actually a surprise if they're bad. Or have the token male hero actually be evil all along or something to show the "male feminists can be creeps too" thing.
About ten years ago I had the opportunity to meet Keir Dullea. He was appearing at the theatre where I worked for a Q & A for a screening of 2001. I got to speak to him one on one briefly and tried not to be a gushing fanboy. It was a thrill to meet him and even remind him that HAL was initially conceived to be a female named Athena. It was only later that I neglected to tell him that he was in the scariest film I have ever seen. Yes, even scarier than The Exorcist. Black Christmas crawls under my skin unlike any other horror film, except for The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. But meeting someone who worked personally with Kubrick superseded everything else. He was very nice and even autographed a 2001 book for me. It's my favourite memory of the theatre. A remake of horror films has never made any sense to me. The good ones are made worse, and the bad ones lose a certain charm that make them fun---sometimes.
While I argue that remakes are good things if done right like the above commenters mentioned It Chapter 1 and John Carpenter's The Thing, or even non-horror movies like the new West Side Story or Martin Scorsese's The Departed. But for every great remake of that caliber you get 2 bad remakes like The Fog or this movie, or Ben-Hur 2016 (which is already a remake of a remake with the Charlton Heston version being a remake of a silent era movie) from people and studios either trying to cynically make some money or hiring people who don't even understand the source material... P.S. Though it's been mostly debating remakes here, I do want to say that your story of meeting Keir Dullea is awesome! I wish I had a story like that, but alas I have yet to meet any of my filmmaking heroes...😔
@@filmfanaticx4212 I once met Alex Kendrick (the director of War Room) at my friend’s church when they invited him to speak, although this was before I had watched any of his movies (the most I’d known about him were the Death Crawl scene from Facing the Giants, or the Snake King scene from Courageous), and before I knew that his movies weren’t very good. Honestly though, his life story would’ve made a better Christian movie than the ones he’s made so far.
This is legitimately one of the most infuriating remakes in recent history for exactly the reasons detailed in this review, all the more so because there actually IS a great idea in the film - a slasher movie from the perspective of a rape victim trying to reclaim her self worth - and this completely pisses that away by treating everyone as less than a one dimensional caricature (with the Kris character being the absolute worst and a sterling example of why some white writers really shouldn't try to write Black characters). Say what one will about them, but at least the remakes of "Suspiria" and "Child's Play" understood the core of what made the originals work while forging their own paths, especially "Suspiria". Imogene Poots deserved better, Cary Elwes is right where he deserves to be for Bobby Wobbly. Also, everyone at the end is going to jail for murder. Some "inspiring" ending that was.
worst part is this movie originally had an R-rating which would've at least helped somewhat, but it was trimmed down by the studio so more people could see it(like teens would even care considering many of them haven't even heard of the original Black Christmas or the 2006 one) and a fat lot of good that did considering it bombed. Not to mention this film comes off as judgmental against women who choose not to make their sexual assault cases public for their own reasons, I feel like April Wolfe has a major disdain for women like that after seeing this crapfest.
You know what did this concept better? Death Proof. In the Texas half the radio girls who you'd think are airheads have more agency than they let on, getting shitfaced but telling the date rapey boys in the bar an assertive "no" when they ask to join them at the lake house & it's the polite sober Stuntman Mike that kills them. In the second half, the Tennessee girls are a lot more in your face about how much they kick ass, but can't hold their men on a leash worth a damn. That's good subversive writing.
I mean... not necessarily going to jail for murder. If the group had an actual long history of murder, there's gonna be proof in there, even if it gets burned. either that, or the fire burns away all possible evidence, at which point all the "heroes" have to do is just not say anything about it.
I'm a woman and I thought this movie was more damaging then it thinks it is. Rape revenge movies can be poignant like the original "I Spit on your Grave", but this movie was what misogynists think feminism is all about. There is no subtlety to it.
And yet it was directed and written by women, and they still fucked it up without realizing it! And yeah, I Spit on your Grave is far better than this, along with films like Ms. 45 are superior(hell, the original had a subplot about the lead character Jess getting an abortion; which was a hot topic at the time of the films release; and they used that plotline for creating a red-hairing and even suspense when the killer mentions the abortion to Jess when he calls her and leaves to an amazing scene; "Who are you!? For God's sake, who is this!!?") And both I Spit on your Grave and Ms. 45 were directed by a man and did a far better job than this movie!
Ever since this film came out, I’ve never referred to this movie without quotation marks. Because, as bad and shameless as the 2006 Black X-Mas remake was (tasteless, shameless, pandering by filling the cast with hot girls, an awful 3rd act twist, taking away all the mystery from the killer), you can at least see how it connects to the original. I can understand someone trying to defend it, especially after this 100 minute Twitter post. And at least it was rated R. Tell me: has there EVER been a movie that was downgraded to a PG-13 that actually made more money and got a broader audience? I’m sure it had to have happened at some point because they keep doing this and continue failing and failing at it. “Black Christmas” is the absolute WORST-not worst Christmas movie, but it certainly deserves to be up there with Deck The Halls, Christmas With the Kranks, and Surviving Christmas-but it’s the movie that will hold the distinction of being the most unwatchably atrocious slasher film and one of the Top 10 worst horror films of the last 20 years (exclusively counting theatrical releases) and one of the most misandrist movies ever made. Even worse than the LAST equally sexist remake Charlie’s Angels
2006 film was awesome and not tasteless shameless or pandering at all, I loved the third act twist). I'd MUCH rather watch any of those films, at least they actually made me laugh. Charlie's Angels reboot was awesome and not sexist at all though.
@@jadedheartsz really? The same Charlie’s Angels movie, not the one from the 2000’s with Cameron Diaz and Lucy Lu but the one from the same year as this, where literally EVERY male character is portrayed as evil, sexist, or both, makes a running gag out of seeing men get badly hurt or thrown off roofs and going “I’m sure he’s fine”, shows every FEMALE character as hyper-competent to the point of rendering each other redundant, and even does a bait and switch of making Patrick Stewart a villain. THAT movie isn’t sexist?
@@ThatRandomEncounterGuy um actually they aren't all portrayed that way at all dude, I don't think you know what sexism means. So what women aren't allowed to be shown to be competent, I don't see complaints about men being hypercompetent.
@@jadedheartsz are you in 4th grade or something? Seriously. I can tell you something right now: sexism, it’s a two-way street. You don’t make one gender look better by making the other look horrible; it makes you a fraud and shows that you had to play on the lowest difficulty with the highest handicap possible. When every female character is equally good at everything, then it defeats the purpose of even having them as a team at all. Imagine playing Team Fortress 2 if the Heavy had the speed of Scout and could heal like a Medic, or if the Pyro had the range and accuracy of Sniper and could build sentries like Engineer-it would completely obliterate the entire point of class selection because all of them would be able to do everything. This isn’t about “hypercompetent female characters”, this is about fighting for a shitty, pandering reboot that literally had the cast telling people in interviews “Oh, if you don’t like this movie, it means you’re sexist and hate women in action movies”. Black Widow made $379 million, Captain Marvel broke $1 Billion worldwide, Birds of Prey $200 Million. It’s almost like people hate PANDERING more than they hate “hypercompetent female characters”
Absolutely. As someone who has the original film in their Favorite Films of All Time List, I would've R rated this PG-13 slasher shit.... By slitting my own throat and letting the blood spray all over the theater screen!!
Just the clips this video showed of the "Up in the Frathouse" number made me feel physically ill. Moments like that feel more like something out a PARODY movie designed around making fun of SJW culture!
@@Adamguy2003 Ironically, the director of this IDIOT picture believed she WASN"T making a parody, she was entirely serious with the film she was making.
I don't know if this movie is suicide inducing. It's bad and I mean really REALLY bad, but not to the point where you want to end yourself, more like scratch pointed candy canes on EVERY DVD and Blu Ray copy of this movie, throw them on a nice winter fire, and roast marshmallows over them BAD!!!
I got the feeling they were going for the misogyny exhibited in Silence of the Lambs, but thought the audience was too stupid to pick up on subtlety. So they bashed you over the head with it
Sad part is, this premise COULD make for a good foundation for a horror film. Also there’s some solid actors in here as well. But this movie is so hamfisted and lacking in subtlety that it kills whatever message the film was trying to say.
it actually undercuts it's own message by using supernatural crap to explain why those frat boys are evil because that essentially absolves them of any and all responsibility for their actions, it comes off as saying "no it wasn't your fault you were a misogynist prick, it was the ooze that made you that way!" like how Jack Thompson argued a violent video game was responsibility for someone ending up in prison for committing a violent crime and thus trying to absolve the killer of his own wrongdoing.
Yeah,, it's definitely frustrating. The lack of subtlety and reality in this movie makes it seem like the writers are mocking the sufferers of rape culture instead of trying to bring it to light.
Sequel pitch: When the characters are inevitably arrested, we find out there's a police cult who worships Derek Chauvin, and says super problematic things like: Justice is colorblind, law and order, etc...
I don't think the filmmakers realise that the characters absolutely should be arrested for murder. They treat the act of burning all these boys alive as a good thing. It's horrific. Aren't they supposed to be possessed within the context of the story? So for all intents and purposes, they are innocent and brainwashed. Yet apparently burning these kids alive is a triumph?
We live in world where the Black Christmas remake is more funny than the Ghostbusters reboot. But yeah i will give it Ghostbusters (2016) another chance, probably i was too harsh with it.
"Uh.......officers, it was all because of an evil cult that we had to kill all the students of that frat house and they were being controlled by the ooze from the founders statue" Perfect, off the hook!
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 It parodies stuff to an extent. The director admitted she put certain things in to satire stuff in pop culture or society, like the dance being a critique on Mean Girls, and the professor being a combination of Brett Kavanaugh and Jordon Peterson.
I'm a woman .... I could only get through the 1st 15 min of this movie....and I've watched alot of shitty movies all the way through ! Now I find out you don't even see the deaths wtf?! Dumb .. thanks for reviewing so we didn't have to! 😜😜😜
I saw it in the cinema, had avoided most of the trailers so I thought I give it a shot... Cut to me having paid to be yelled at for being born a man for 90 minutes 😂
Oh god, even when this was "announced" and then saw the shitty trailer, it just made me cringe and made me love the original movie again and go "you know......the 2006 has problems but it has some great stuff as well"; god almighty this movie is infuriating and it just again makes me love the original movie and 80's college movies as well(also, did they blackmail Cary Elwes to be in this movie?) This movie is literally a left-leaning version of PureFlix, and comparing this movie to I Spit on your Grave is an insult to I Spit on your Grave because at least that movie had the balls to go all out and not bullshit anything (Plus, using the movies dumb logic with that scene of the cat licking up the EVIL PATRIARCHY OOZE does it mean the cat is now EVIL AND PART OF THE PATRIARCHY? And they never answer that one question, so much potential on that one plotline that they don't look into it)
I read that word a lot in comments in social media (unfortunately), but just what IS the "patriarchy"? As a white heterosexual male, am I in it and not know it? Did they "Winter Soldier" me?! Quick! Say a bunch of out-of-context words that sound silly until I do something cool! Maybe that activates my programming!
@BK Beatty "are you happy wearing that"? "You wanna take it off"? "Tell the kid to take it off" "Alright, you'll only wear it when aunt clara visits go ahead and take it off" "TAKE IT OFF" Love a Christmas story 😂😂 No,no I want a 200 shot range model air rifle😁 You'll shoot your eye out kid😳 Merry Christmas...ho,ho ho😂😂 That santa was the funniest "If he thinks I'm staying one minute past 9 he can kiss my foot.(laughing) Ho,ho,ho merry Christmas"😂
I'm surprised no one edited the Postal Dude's lines into this movies petition scene yet. You'd think 2019's best comedy would get that kind of recognition ;) But for reals, it's *stunning* how much better the prior remake is in comparison.
It was very nice being able to meet y’all again this year at C2E2 and when you guys have a chance to watch the red riding hood movie I gave y’all I’d love to hear thoughts on it 💙💙
Fun fact: Sophia Takal, who did the 2019 Black Christmas remake, DID want to do a remake of I Spit On Your Grave, but did this instead... Thank God she didn't get her hands on I Spit On Your Grave...
Clearly you have no clue what I Spit on Your Grave actually was then. Because obviously if you did, it would make a hell of alot more sense for to make something like this into a I Spit on Your Grave remake. However there already was a remake of it and, I believe a sequel to that remake, they could have I suppose made it into another sequel.... Its always hilarious when people complain about something and yet have no clue what they're talking about...It was literally a movie about a girl getting revenge on the men who raped her at the beginning.....
@@lutherheggs451 no it would've been gross because she would've used rape as a cudgel to beat you over the head with her political views. A slasher movie where a rape victim reclaims her power is engaging, empowering, cathartic. A slasher movie where a rape victim reclaims her power by smugly discussing the patriarchy and systemic misogyny is going to be both boring, but also wildly disrespectful to actual rape victims
@@anguishedcarpet It takes a lot of work to make the 2006 version look like the 1974 version of Black Christmas, but this version manages to do it--how this wasn't nominated for ANY Razzies, I don't know (it was right there, Razzie Awards)...
There is a trilogy of the spit on your grave remake and it's pretty decent.. Not as groundbreaking as a the original or as good as.. Revenge but still I watched all 3 on one sitting
Some people who choose not to think too hard grouse at the idea that somewhere there are feminists loving this movie and it was all their fault it ever happened. That's a stupid assumption. Caring about an issue makes seeing it handled badly sickening. Being pandered to, poorly, on the insulting presumption that a quick buck can be made on an issue that weighs heavily on your life is sickening.
Finally. Someone with a clearer perspective on this garbage. I'm not surprised but very disheartened to see all the other "we want the feminists in this to die because wokeness/sjws/cancel culture is for pussies." Yeah. This ain't feminism. It's misogyny parading as feminism. White feminism. It's trash.
I👏loved👏this👏review!!!👏 Great to see Snob and Critic and Santa Christ again-- let's me know Christmas is coming even though we don't get snow anymore! (I remember 2ft of snow as a kid and now barely a flurry...well now I am off to watch the 2006 remake)
Man Doug is, taller than Brad. I really hate, PG-13 horror movies. It was funny to me when Brad cut Laura off, when she was about to give her opinion about Black Christmas. Doug-You're 40! Brad-We're both 40. Doug-You're wearing a, fucking bunny suit!
They're are great PG 13 horror films. Drag me to hell 1408 Oujia origin of evil Insidious Sixth sense Split The visit Lights out The Ring The others the mothman prophecies Mama The woman in black Krampus A quiet place
Judas was cancelled for kissing Christ without his consent. I have to admit, I lost it there 🤣🤣... Jesus was also probably still somewhat buzzed from the wine from the Last Supper. I vote for removing Judas from Da Vinci's Last Supper painting.
Wow, this movie is horrible. Good thing the review itself isn't, it was worth the wait! Brad and Doug must have balls of steel to get through this movie again, you have my deepest respects.
Chris is the most self righteous, preachy, holier than thou character I have ever seen. Take her out of the movie and work the script a bit, and you could really make a decent horror film dealing with college rape culture.
Better yet, keep Chris in, remove the black goop, and turn her into the villain. That way you can deliver a warning that even the best intents can turn the unwary into a monster, and not all victims are good people even if they're victims of violence
The male feminist in this movie is actually _extremely_ realistic. That is the awkwardness a man terrified of accidentally saying anything offensive. :L
@@KellogsR-ny7ugHave you met male feminists? They might not all dress like Cosby, but they are all pretty damn creepy. I wouldn't leave a woman in a room alone with one.
1. Lindsay "Queen of the SJWS" Ellis no doubt thinks this movie is a masterpiece. 2. Santa Christ got that soapbox from Steven Colbert, or Seth Myers. (I think Colbert WANTS Trump to come back so he can jump on the soap box and yell out "I TOLD YOU SO!!" a thing he loves to do...) 3. The wikipedia article has NO plot discription of this movie. 4. It's PG-13 horror. I HATE THAT. 5. He said "NOT ALL MEN!" He's EVIL and/or STUPID! KILL HIM!!! 6. Good call on calling out people going nuts on Chris Pratt. It's Chris Pratt! Who do you want to go after next, Ryan Reynolds?!
I happened to finally watch this film last week. I did not know whether to laugh or not cry throughout. Spoiler. You know a film really has a message when the villain’s plan is to take over the world by killing off a few mildly annoying student activists.
Towards the end of this review, I found myself thinking "Wait, isn't this called Black _Christmas?"_ Was there even anything Christmas related in here? I think I saw a Christmas tree in one scene. That must count for something, right?
(Parodying the Cinema Snob's *"SLEEPAWAY CAMP 3"* review) 7:03 Why would Cary Elwes said yes to this film? He was in *"The Jungle Book"* (1994), *"TWISTER",* *"ROBIN HOOD: Men In* *Tights",* two *"SAW"* films, *"DRACULA"* (1992), *"A Christmas Carol"* (2009), and *"LIAR LIAR",* the 1997 comedy film with Jim Carrey. Hell, he was Wesley in *"The Princess Bride"!*
The French-Belgian Dodgeball Horror movie, Girls with Balls, is actually a great horror film about sisterhood and fighting back against murderous rapists!
Watched this on HBO today, just to see if it was as bad as this review. Jesus Harold Jingleheimer Christ, you weren’t kidding. Thinking about it though, maybe this was trying to update teen character cliches, so the audience won’t mind seeing their deaths. In the 80s, slasher film teenagers were primarily drunken materialistic spoiled brats who were mainly just trying to get in each other’s pants. In the 90s, they were cynical pop culture junkies who were convinced they were too cool for school. And now, the characters are over opinionated, under experienced, addicted to causes as hobbies, and more a hashtag than a human.
Now I'm a progressive. I believe Black Lives Matter, trans rights are human rights, abortion is health care, etc. And I do think political messages in horror films can work if the movie is good. This movie, however, is not. In fact, it's part of a current trend of movies and TV shows that try way too hard to show how woke they are. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's people trying too damn hard.
Here's the thing. The movie of a female taking revenge the serial killer route for men who raped and or wrong them has been done not only before. But also BETTER. I Spit On Your Grave is a movie that is empowering because she takes back her agency and her strength being a woman out smarting and killing her rapist by being a woman. Using her feminity and the ways she is a woman (sexually and other wise) to her advantage. Like a bad ass. She becomes what all victims of these terrible crimes want to be. Whole; strong, and you get back a small bit of what was taken from you. This movie doesn't want their woman to be strong they want them to think their strong where if they were even in the same situation as I Spit on Your Grave I don't think they'd be able to do anything. Because they're not strong their saying their strong. That doesn't make you a strong person
THANK YOU!! Hell, Ms. 45 is a better movie as well too; it's like the director/writers didn't get what made movies like I Spit on your Grave or Ms. 45 actually make the message the movie is saying; even with all of the brutality; far better plus the main characters in both movies are relatable as well and not act like freakin Twitter bots
@@TrueBuddhaCat I don't think I seen Ms.45 yet. I saw I Spit on Your Grave because me and my mom seeked it out. And it stuck with us both. Having both been victims of abuse. My mom having been through the worst between us. It's like seeing if movies and media can convey the things we believe in. Even if you have been a victim of such awful crimes doesn't mean you can't get up and fight back. That doesn't mean revenge sometimes getting up and walking on your own two feet is enough to knock the abuser down.
Unlike some other Robin Hoods, he can speak in an English accent. It was interesting that throughout most of the 90s, he had a Southern accent going on for some films.
If the Black Christmas movies were cocktails, the 1974 movie would be a professionally made cocktail, the 2006 remake would be a standard made cocktail that tastes weird but gets the job done, and this movie would be a very watered down mocktail made by someone who thinks they're a mixologist
I was looking forward to this remake review. but i was not expecting doug funny to be here, i just came from his channel!. we did not deserve this thnak you Snob and happy birthday and christmas.
Snob is a little on the short side. Critic is a little on the tall side. As a mid-sized nerd, I found that neither of them seemed ridiculously tall or short.
You just know this movie fails at being a slasher movie, let alone a remake of a horror classic when Kris turns out to be the worst, most obnoxious, hypocritical, and objectively horrible person in the entire cast yet she wasn't even meant to be a part of the movie's epic over the top death scenes (not that there's any) like most slasher movies would do. Also speaking of Kris, it sucks that there was actually an event where a school had a group of student "activists" petitioning for a damn boulder to be removed out of the school compound (just because they deemed it to be racist) and somehow managed to do it, but not before spending $40,000.
Hell, if you want a remake that has similar issues and deals with them in a FAR better way, Cinema Snob, watch the remake of the Invisible Man (2020)... Hell, even the Slumber Party Massacre remake done by Syfy was better than this...
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"Telling strangers to do better while dead bolting their old closet full of skeletons" is such a perfect description of why I hate Twitter activism
eh some of it isn't bad, Twitter is good for shining a light on shitty behavior that otherwise gets ignored. But there are a few too many fake-progressives who have problematic views of their own who like to try and shame others to deflect from their own shortcomings. Rami Ismael comes to mind, with his stupid whining and blindly accusing the devs of the upcoming video game Six Days in Fallujah of being racist towards people like him(even though he himself wasn't actually born in the Middle East anywhere close to where the real life Fallujah battle happened, he was born in Egypt)and then Rami himself ended up being racist towards black people, leading to several black activists on Twitter rightfully calling him out for him being an insensitive bigoted hypocritical jackass and he locked down his Twitter for several days, and apparently that wasn't the first time Rami made an ass of himself online like that by being bigoted towards other races.
@@jadedheartsz Yeah I know there's good parts, I just feel a lot of it gets lost in a sea of people being offended on someone else's behalf while missing the reason why they're getting offended
@@jprofio that's true, I remember when that Ghost in the Shell live-action movie came out and people were bitching about ScarJo getting cast in the lead and the vast majority of people I saw complaining about it were not minorities but other white people, which struck me as odd, I saw a few black folks complain about it but not many.
Funny thing is Hollywood wasn't even to blame for this one, the Japanese company insisted on casting a white female lead because Japan worships white people.
It's also why I hade news shows, and tabloid shows. Bring back cartoon blocks!
Yeah, bc it's to use idpol to distract against the only thing that actually matters in politics: class. Unfortunately, Americans have long been brainwashed to ignored class and replace it with "minority groups" so you get spoiled little girlbosses who think they are the bravest pinnacle of "woke" morality for forcing a school to get rid of some old fuck's name while happily ignoring the fact their daddy's company gets rich using child slave labor (Fun fact, Nestle just got sued by its former child slaves and of course the supreme court sided with Nestle bc they agree that its actually good to force poor 8yos to slave for bread 18hrs a day in the equatorial heat. That's just smart business practices).
So with them burning the Frat alive at the end, does that mean that our supposed heroes have a higher body count than our supposed slashers?
Oh boy, just wait until you find out about the US military
@@Divine_Dreamer_vaporwave You're doing that exact same whataboutism shit as our supposed heroes in this movie. Stop it.
@@Clay3613 how? I fail to understand how pointing out how this statement is comparable to real life is an example of what-about-ism. What-about-ism is typically used to minimize the blame of one group by pointing out the short comings of another. I, however, am not trying to defend anyone. I am merely making a sly comment about the reality of the world as a cynical response to this comment that is analyzing a film. Nothing about that describes what-about-ism, especially considering that I'm not even defending this film, or anything for that matter.
It really just seems like the smallest criticism of the military industrial complex made you mad for some reason, so you're using whatever hot term you learned from whatever debate bro you watch on Twitch, without actually understanding what that term means.
@@Divine_Dreamer_vaporwave there's no military anywhere in black christmas, don't break your arm reaching
@@MissSallyB1 man, it's almost like I made a non sequitur response on purpose for the sake of making a separate point that came to mind from this comment that is also simultaneously divorced from this comment.
They did it, they finally did it.
Cancel Culture wrote a Slasher Film.
The Passion Of The Christ was made by cancel culture and came out before this.
They kind of already did with A Nightmare on Elm Street.
Seriously, those parent did not have concrete proof that Fred Kruegar actually murder and molest those kids
it almost sounds like the writers and director put just enough kills/violence in to make it seem like a slasher, but only to get money out of blumhouse to do this pseudo remake.
but really it was just to be woke and and be super obvious with its message.
cancel culture ain't real(if it was Rittenhouse would be in prison) but this film does suck ass.
I was so confused when I caught the last half hour or so of this movie on TV last Christmas. I was like, "Wait, isn't this supposed to be Black Christmas? The movie where the woman is killed with the plastic bag and her body is left in the attic? Wasn't that movie really grounded and scary?"
I thought maybe there was a mistake with my TV guide, and the Black Christmas title was being displayed over an unrelated movie. But, nope. This mess actually has the utter gall to exist under the Black Christmas name. It's almost surreal how bad and dumb it is.
The original is a classic, unlike this
Yeah, I think they should be made to change the name. They literally Just used it to get arses in seats. Not only that but they also stole from The Shining and one of the Exorcist films.
From The Shining, one of the characters does the "I'm not being grouchy" line.
And from Exorcist, they shamelessly rip off a famous Jump scare, where nothing happens for a few minutes and then someone appears behind the character and we zoom in before cutting away. It's creepy in the Exorcist. It's dumb in this.
I love it when these guys do crossovers
Brad's cynicism plays well off of Doug's exuberance
Which is hilarious because Doug's exuberance is checked enough in this that he's tolerable.
Agreed 1000%!!!
They are perfect together.
friendship is magic!
Brad's cynicism about how shit like this is allowed to be made, and Doug's exuberance to rip and tear it to shreds? A winning combo!
2006 Remake: I'm the worst remake to a Christmas-Horror classic.
2019 Remake: Hold my black ooze
I like the 06 one.
2006 remake was dope though, saw it in theaters and had a great time.
The original definitely isn't even remotely close to being a classic anything. Just because something is old doesn't suddenly make it good.....The original Black Christmas is mediocre meh at best, the 06 remake was still mediocre but at least kinda had some entertaining kills.
Nah, there’s definitely worse remakes then black Xmas. The fog, psycho, the omen, poltergeist, the wicker man, and especially the prom night remake are all much worse then that in my opinion. But yes, black xmas 2019 is the worse of them all
@@lutherheggs451
I'm sorry buddy but it is MOST DEFINITELY A CLASSIC
Part of me thinks there should be a drinking game where someone takes a shot every time the phrase "toxic masculinity" is spoken...
But then I realize those playing would die of alcohol poisoning before the review was even over!
Funny because ”toxic masculinity” doesnt even exist in the real world.
@@taags except it does. Sorry you don't believe in it, but just like evolution and the globe Earth it exists.
@kaza12345678 wow, you sound really stupid.
@@taags Stop being toxically masculine.
@kaza12345678 I disagree; I've met plenty of women who are exceptional alcoholics and could drink most men under the table, then piss their beds with the best of them.
This is fanfiction levels of writing. The authors can't have their self-insert character being worse that the villains, so the villains are defeated with ease. And any pretence of horror is gone. Even if you want to have your Big Heroes moment, at least show the killers as a threat.
How many horror films these days have the villain be a threat for the tiny, teenage, female heroes?
Or films in general have any male be a threat for the strong wahmen.
That's an insult to fanfiction.
Yeah, this is making the 2006 version look more like a faithful adaptation than this one hour Twitter argument that is too cowardly to show a drop of blood.
This movie wasn't a fever dream?!?!??!
I know you made a joke about Lisa Simpsons. At least Lisa like Christmas, except of Bart's future Girlfriend. LOL!
We all wish it was, this somehow makes the 2006 remake look like a freakin underrated masterpiece, least that movie was willing to go all out with the insanity with the killer making cookies out of human skin!
@@TrueBuddhaCat I remember conservatives hated the 2006 remake. Michael Medved blamed the Movie on a fight that broke out in a theater. The Right can do the whole soapbox thing also
@@htruman They did? Didn't know that; and I'm not saying the right can't do the whole soapbox thing as well which is why I'm on the "you are all stupid" side of things
@@TrueBuddhaCat Fair enough. They also were not happy with Bad Santa. I'm surprise the makers of God's not dead didn't do was on christmas, especially after what happen to the fox news christmas tree.
Black Christmas (2019) is the one of the worst horror movies of all time!
Makes Troma films look like masterpiece theater
hahahahahahahahahaha 'horror'
@@kyleshiflet9952 Shot, even Troma has made better movies than this disaster
@@kyleshiflet9952 troma is usually shit true but its interesting and funny shit. This is just boring
@@cannibalbunnygirl true and that's why I love troma they know its trash bit they make it so damn fun to watch
Laura's diva cup joke was AMAZING!
Agreed! 👏👏👏
Sometimes I wonder if this isn't just a parody of what people think feminism is.
Agreed it's this kind of writing for women that makes me NOT want to watch the new shows.🐻
I dint think anyone knows what feminism is...I mean, when's the last time 3 women could agree on anything!!!
Yeah, a "parody". 🤣🤣🤣
Evidently the person who wrote the script is an actual feminist so this is what some think.
True story I saw this movie in theaters and half way through I walked out and got my money back the manager laughed saying I wasn't the first one to ask for money back
Yeah, I can pretty much guarantee you were far from the first theater patron to demand a refund from that movie.
Can't imagine why, hopefully there were better movies to see instead
@@Adamguy2003 she told me I was lucky number 13
@@TrueBuddhaCat I actually went home after I got my money back
I would have if I wasnt reviewing it:p lol
This movie is like someone wrote a satirical comedy making fun of the idea super woke and politically correct pg-13 slashers and the studio took that script and made it like it was supposed to be a straight up horror movie. The tonal whiplash of the concept and the execution is ridiculous
The sad thing is with some better (or any) character development, better dialogue, some gore, and removing the supernatural element, this could be good. College assault is scary and peer pressure and group think can be scary and be useful in creating scary villains.
Considering the professor ringleader is a raging psychopath, it could have been legitimately horrifying. Murderous cults can exist, and all it would have taken is a script re-write.
yeah this film could've worked, but it NEVER should've been called Black Christmas as it has basically jack shit to do with the other two films aside from some minor easily missed references.
@@jadedheartsz True, if they still wanted this to be a "Black Christmas " movie they would also need to lean more into the Christmas imagery and include Billy in some capacity. Maybe have Billy be a campus legend like Ted Bundy who the villains use as an inspiration or cover for their crimes.
This film could never work unless it was entirely rewritten from the ground up and not called black christmas. At which point it means the movie could never work. I mean come on, magic statue cult that makes guys evil, but doesnt even follow its own logic by only having one guy stop being comically evil when its broken? If thats your plot most of the evil guys should have been turned back to normal after it was broken. Instead the movie was written to push an agenda where only the white guys stayed evil even tho it doesnt logically make sense with their mythology they created.
Yeah the supernatural element is actually insulting in context. So toxic masculinity is actually just a magic spell cast against guys' wishes? They can't play an active role in it at all? The writers are women- either they're really bad or this had some really awful studio suggestions. It would be more effective to (1) maybe have the leads be women in a more traditional sorority which totally still exist so they aren't already suspicious of these guys and (2) have the guys act friendly like in Promising Young Woman so it's actually a surprise if they're bad. Or have the token male hero actually be evil all along or something to show the "male feminists can be creeps too" thing.
It's always awesome to see these two together go after something a whole fanbase hates. 😁
congratulations blum house, if your goal was to make people stop hating the 2006 black Christmas then you at least managed to succeed at that.
About ten years ago I had the opportunity to meet Keir Dullea. He was appearing at the theatre where I worked for a Q & A for a screening of 2001. I got to speak to him one on one briefly and tried not to be a gushing fanboy. It was a thrill to meet him and even remind him that HAL was initially conceived to be a female named Athena. It was only later that I neglected to tell him that he was in the scariest film I have ever seen. Yes, even scarier than The Exorcist. Black Christmas crawls under my skin unlike any other horror film, except for The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. But meeting someone who worked personally with Kubrick superseded everything else. He was very nice and even autographed a 2001 book for me. It's my favourite memory of the theatre. A remake of horror films has never made any sense to me. The good ones are made worse, and the bad ones lose a certain charm that make them fun---sometimes.
I'd argue that some remakes are pretty good, like It Chapter 1 from 2017. \
I just remember you than the thing and the fly from the 80s are remakes
While I argue that remakes are good things if done right like the above commenters mentioned It Chapter 1 and John Carpenter's The Thing, or even non-horror movies like the new West Side Story or Martin Scorsese's The Departed. But for every great remake of that caliber you get 2 bad remakes like The Fog or this movie, or Ben-Hur 2016 (which is already a remake of a remake with the Charlton Heston version being a remake of a silent era movie) from people and studios either trying to cynically make some money or hiring people who don't even understand the source material...
P.S. Though it's been mostly debating remakes here, I do want to say that your story of meeting Keir Dullea is awesome! I wish I had a story like that, but alas I have yet to meet any of my filmmaking heroes...😔
@@filmfanaticx4212 Preach. P.S. everything you had to say involving remakes, completely agree. Merry Christmas.
@@filmfanaticx4212 I once met Alex Kendrick (the director of War Room) at my friend’s church when they invited him to speak, although this was before I had watched any of his movies (the most I’d known about him were the Death Crawl scene from Facing the Giants, or the Snake King scene from Courageous), and before I knew that his movies weren’t very good.
Honestly though, his life story would’ve made a better Christian movie than the ones he’s made so far.
This is legitimately one of the most infuriating remakes in recent history for exactly the reasons detailed in this review, all the more so because there actually IS a great idea in the film - a slasher movie from the perspective of a rape victim trying to reclaim her self worth - and this completely pisses that away by treating everyone as less than a one dimensional caricature (with the Kris character being the absolute worst and a sterling example of why some white writers really shouldn't try to write Black characters). Say what one will about them, but at least the remakes of "Suspiria" and "Child's Play" understood the core of what made the originals work while forging their own paths, especially "Suspiria". Imogene Poots deserved better, Cary Elwes is right where he deserves to be for Bobby Wobbly.
Also, everyone at the end is going to jail for murder. Some "inspiring" ending that was.
worst part is this movie originally had an R-rating which would've at least helped somewhat, but it was trimmed down by the studio so more people could see it(like teens would even care considering many of them haven't even heard of the original Black Christmas or the 2006 one) and a fat lot of good that did considering it bombed.
Not to mention this film comes off as judgmental against women who choose not to make their sexual assault cases public for their own reasons, I feel like April Wolfe has a major disdain for women like that after seeing this crapfest.
You know what did this concept better? Death Proof. In the Texas half the radio girls who you'd think are airheads have more agency than they let on, getting shitfaced but telling the date rapey boys in the bar an assertive "no" when they ask to join them at the lake house & it's the polite sober Stuntman Mike that kills them. In the second half, the Tennessee girls are a lot more in your face about how much they kick ass, but can't hold their men on a leash worth a damn. That's good subversive writing.
I mean... not necessarily going to jail for murder. If the group had an actual long history of murder, there's gonna be proof in there, even if it gets burned.
either that, or the fire burns away all possible evidence, at which point all the "heroes" have to do is just not say anything about it.
I think your expectations for a xmas slasher flick might be a bit too high.
@@dzhellek not really, Silent Night Deadly Night 2 was better then this shit.
“You know what this reminds me of?”
“Rock-a-Doodle.”
“What? NO!”
2:12 "You know what this is reminding me of?"
"Rock-a-doodle."
"What?! No!"
Hahaha, I love that part.
I'm a woman and I thought this movie was more damaging then it thinks it is. Rape revenge movies can be poignant like the original "I Spit on your Grave", but this movie was what misogynists think feminism is all about. There is no subtlety to it.
Promising Young Woman is unironically the best rape revenge film I've ever seen
And yet it was directed and written by women, and they still fucked it up without realizing it! And yeah, I Spit on your Grave is far better than this, along with films like Ms. 45 are superior(hell, the original had a subplot about the lead character Jess getting an abortion; which was a hot topic at the time of the films release; and they used that plotline for creating a red-hairing and even suspense when the killer mentions the abortion to Jess when he calls her and leaves to an amazing scene; "Who are you!? For God's sake, who is this!!?")
And both I Spit on your Grave and Ms. 45 were directed by a man and did a far better job than this movie!
@@TrueBuddhaCat In translation: women don’t know how to write women.
thank you, I saw a number of female critics savaging this movie for similar reasons on RT.
ISOYG is overrated and aged quite badly.
Ever since this film came out, I’ve never referred to this movie without quotation marks. Because, as bad and shameless as the 2006 Black X-Mas remake was (tasteless, shameless, pandering by filling the cast with hot girls, an awful 3rd act twist, taking away all the mystery from the killer), you can at least see how it connects to the original. I can understand someone trying to defend it, especially after this 100 minute Twitter post. And at least it was rated R.
Tell me: has there EVER been a movie that was downgraded to a PG-13 that actually made more money and got a broader audience? I’m sure it had to have happened at some point because they keep doing this and continue failing and failing at it. “Black Christmas” is the absolute WORST-not worst Christmas movie, but it certainly deserves to be up there with Deck The Halls, Christmas With the Kranks, and Surviving Christmas-but it’s the movie that will hold the distinction of being the most unwatchably atrocious slasher film and one of the Top 10 worst horror films of the last 20 years (exclusively counting theatrical releases) and one of the most misandrist movies ever made. Even worse than the LAST equally sexist remake Charlie’s Angels
2006 film was awesome and not tasteless shameless or pandering at all, I loved the third act twist).
I'd MUCH rather watch any of those films, at least they actually made me laugh.
Charlie's Angels reboot was awesome and not sexist at all though.
I personally refer to it as "The 2019 'Black Christmas' remake- in- name- only."
@@jadedheartsz really? The same Charlie’s Angels movie, not the one from the 2000’s with Cameron Diaz and Lucy Lu but the one from the same year as this, where literally EVERY male character is portrayed as evil, sexist, or both, makes a running gag out of seeing men get badly hurt or thrown off roofs and going “I’m sure he’s fine”, shows every FEMALE character as hyper-competent to the point of rendering each other redundant, and even does a bait and switch of making Patrick Stewart a villain. THAT movie isn’t sexist?
@@ThatRandomEncounterGuy um actually they aren't all portrayed that way at all dude, I don't think you know what sexism means. So what women aren't allowed to be shown to be competent, I don't see complaints about men being hypercompetent.
@@jadedheartsz are you in 4th grade or something? Seriously. I can tell you something right now: sexism, it’s a two-way street. You don’t make one gender look better by making the other look horrible; it makes you a fraud and shows that you had to play on the lowest difficulty with the highest handicap possible. When every female character is equally good at everything, then it defeats the purpose of even having them as a team at all. Imagine playing Team Fortress 2 if the Heavy had the speed of Scout and could heal like a Medic, or if the Pyro had the range and accuracy of Sniper and could build sentries like Engineer-it would completely obliterate the entire point of class selection because all of them would be able to do everything. This isn’t about “hypercompetent female characters”, this is about fighting for a shitty, pandering reboot that literally had the cast telling people in interviews “Oh, if you don’t like this movie, it means you’re sexist and hate women in action movies”. Black Widow made $379 million, Captain Marvel broke $1 Billion worldwide, Birds of Prey $200 Million. It’s almost like people hate PANDERING more than they hate “hypercompetent female characters”
This film isn't just cringe-inducing
Is cut-your-wrists-in-despair-inducing.
Absolutely. As someone who has the original film in their Favorite Films of All Time List, I would've R rated this PG-13 slasher shit.... By slitting my own throat and letting the blood spray all over the theater screen!!
Just the clips this video showed of the "Up in the Frathouse" number made me feel physically ill.
Moments like that feel more like something out a PARODY movie designed around making fun of SJW culture!
@@Adamguy2003 It's trying to be Get Out. Instead it's just Get Fucked.
Zing.
@@Adamguy2003 Ironically, the director of this IDIOT picture believed she WASN"T making a parody, she was entirely serious with the film she was making.
I don't know if this movie is suicide inducing. It's bad and I mean really REALLY bad, but not to the point where you want to end yourself, more like scratch pointed candy canes on EVERY DVD and Blu Ray copy of this movie, throw them on a nice winter fire, and roast marshmallows over them BAD!!!
I got the feeling they were going for the misogyny exhibited in Silence of the Lambs, but thought the audience was too stupid to pick up on subtlety. So they bashed you over the head with it
Or maybe they were going for the misandry exhibited in all media but we're too stupid to do it subtlety.
Sad part is, this premise COULD make for a good foundation for a horror film. Also there’s some solid actors in here as well.
But this movie is so hamfisted and lacking in subtlety that it kills whatever message the film was trying to say.
it actually undercuts it's own message by using supernatural crap to explain why those frat boys are evil because that essentially absolves them of any and all responsibility for their actions, it comes off as saying "no it wasn't your fault you were a misogynist prick, it was the ooze that made you that way!" like how Jack Thompson argued a violent video game was responsibility for someone ending up in prison for committing a violent crime and thus trying to absolve the killer of his own wrongdoing.
Yeah,, it's definitely frustrating. The lack of subtlety and reality in this movie makes it seem like the writers are mocking the sufferers of rape culture instead of trying to bring it to light.
@@jadedheartsz It's also horrifying that if they were just under the influence of dark magic, that means that some of those guys were innocent.
Sequel pitch: When the characters are inevitably arrested, we find out there's a police cult who worships Derek Chauvin, and says super problematic things like: Justice is colorblind, law and order, etc...
I just realized. Derek Chauvin. CHAUVINISTIC! There is no subilty. I didnt realize until it was wriiten out. Thank you.
Don't give them ideas for a sequel.
I don't think the filmmakers realise that the characters absolutely should be arrested for murder.
They treat the act of burning all these boys alive as a good thing. It's horrific. Aren't they supposed to be possessed within the context of the story? So for all intents and purposes, they are innocent and brainwashed. Yet apparently burning these kids alive is a triumph?
Isn't that the premise to that Karen movie?
Yet, that sounds like a better movie
Jesus, this makes Cats look like the better 2019 horror film. And Ghostbusters 2016 look subtle.
True
We live in world where the Black Christmas remake is more funny than the Ghostbusters reboot.
But yeah i will give it Ghostbusters (2016) another chance, probably i was too harsh with it.
@@gonzaloegonzalez8106 You weren't.
Black Christmas 2019, Cats 2019, and Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker started the downfall of humanity, lmao
@@masterseal0418 Cats 2019 did to cinema what E.T. for the Atari 2600 did to video games.
Fun to see Brad and Doug in the same place at the same time, when a couple of years ago I thought that they were the same person.
-.-
I would love to see how these chicks explain to the cops why the hell there is a burning frat house full of dead students😂🤣
Truth be told, a burning frat house full of dead frat rats is a good start to fixing the future.
"Uh.......officers, it was all because of an evil cult that we had to kill all the students of that frat house and they were being controlled by the ooze from the founders statue"
Perfect, off the hook!
@@TrueBuddhaCat maybe if that's how the movie had ended maybe it would have done a bit more better with audiences😂
@@mikeymorales360 Hmmmm, must have been a deleted scene; such a waste
well to be fair a lot of horror films end that way.
If I were to describe Black Christmas 2019 in two words, it would be "Poe's law".
A satire so over the top you think it's being serious?
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 It parodies stuff to an extent. The director admitted she put certain things in to satire stuff in pop culture or society, like the dance being a critique on Mean Girls, and the professor being a combination of Brett Kavanaugh and Jordon Peterson.
@@Transmission_Rory And according to the movie's TVTropes page, the director also hates Deadpool. She sounds absolutely NO fun to be around.
How about "IDIOT PICTURE"???!!!
@@louisduarte8763 how can you hate Deadpool next she'll say Texas Chainsaw Massacre is pro meat and evil
This film is actually great cause it gives feminist a chance to feel the same way Christians do when watching pureflix movies
Uncomfortable and misrepresented?
Huh, you got a point there; so I guess the movie did....something right, I guess?
@@TrueBuddhaCat always gotta look at the (kinda) positives
@@Avenger85438 correct
I'm so thankful.
This movie was indeed preachy.
I'm a woman .... I could only get through the 1st 15 min of this movie....and I've watched alot of shitty movies all the way through ! Now I find out you don't even see the deaths wtf?! Dumb .. thanks for reviewing so we didn't have to! 😜😜😜
“I’m a woman”🚩
@@demon00dmn 🤣🤣 lol but I am hahah
I saw it in the cinema, had avoided most of the trailers so I thought I give it a shot... Cut to me having paid to be yelled at for being born a man for 90 minutes 😂
@@mullaoslo lol I honestly mean " you poor thing" lol yeah it was bad for that..
Oh god, even when this was "announced" and then saw the shitty trailer, it just made me cringe and made me love the original movie again and go "you know......the 2006 has problems but it has some great stuff as well"; god almighty this movie is infuriating and it just again makes me love the original movie and 80's college movies as well(also, did they blackmail Cary Elwes to be in this movie?)
This movie is literally a left-leaning version of PureFlix, and comparing this movie to I Spit on your Grave is an insult to I Spit on your Grave because at least that movie had the balls to go all out and not bullshit anything
(Plus, using the movies dumb logic with that scene of the cat licking up the EVIL PATRIARCHY OOZE does it mean the cat is now EVIL AND PART OF THE PATRIARCHY? And they never answer that one question, so much potential on that one plotline that they don't look into it)
yeah I saw the 2006 film in theaters while I was coming down with a cold and still had a damn good time.
I read that word a lot in comments in social media (unfortunately), but just what IS the "patriarchy"? As a white heterosexual male, am I in it and not know it? Did they "Winter Soldier" me?! Quick! Say a bunch of out-of-context words that sound silly until I do something cool! Maybe that activates my programming!
Oh, tell me about it.
23:07 - 23:11 OMG I can't breathe! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I do enjoy the team-up reviews. Thank you for the early Christmas gift!
Great review from 2 of my favorite movie reviewers.
"You're 40.
You're 40 too.
You're 40 and wearing a fucking bunny suit" 😂😂
@BK Beatty "are you happy wearing that"? "You wanna take it off"?
"Tell the kid to take it off"
"Alright, you'll only wear it when aunt clara visits go ahead and take it off"
"TAKE IT OFF"
Love a Christmas story 😂😂
No,no I want a 200 shot range model air rifle😁
You'll shoot your eye out kid😳
Merry Christmas...ho,ho ho😂😂
That santa was the funniest
"If he thinks I'm staying one minute past 9 he can kiss my foot.(laughing)
Ho,ho,ho merry Christmas"😂
40 too or 42 🤣
Wait, are they really 40?!
Damn
I remember looking back at an old NC review and he mentions being about 27. So that was 13 years ago.
@@1000000man1 that's the way they said it in the video 😂
I would have said "you're 40 as well" but that wouldn't have been funny 😂
I became a patron to watch this.. Been a fan for years Brad just haven't been able to afford until now
Welcome to the family.
Yes welcome to us.
You could just wait for it to go on TH-cam.
Thanks to unemployment checks during covid lockdown, I'm able to afford shit like that. It's so nice.
@@thEannoyingE I could but I've been a fan of brad and Doug for over 10 years so I don't mind supporting them for a video I've been dying to see
A PG-13 horror movie is like a porno without the sex. 🤣
Plenty of masturbation though
I'm surprised no one edited the Postal Dude's lines into this movies petition scene yet. You'd think 2019's best comedy would get that kind of recognition ;)
But for reals, it's *stunning* how much better the prior remake is in comparison.
23:07 - Somehow the random girl power scene in Avengers Endgame doesn’t seem as cringe anymore.
I believe this was written as a satire but the director took it 100% seriously and no one was capable to contradict her.
But if the director is also the writer then why did she contradict her own vision?
It was very nice being able to meet y’all again this year at C2E2 and when you guys have a chance to watch the red riding hood movie I gave y’all I’d love to hear thoughts on it 💙💙
Fun fact: Sophia Takal, who did the 2019 Black Christmas remake, DID want to do a remake of I Spit On Your Grave, but did this instead...
Thank God she didn't get her hands on I Spit On Your Grave...
Clearly you have no clue what I Spit on Your Grave actually was then. Because obviously if you did, it would make a hell of alot more sense for to make something like this into a I Spit on Your Grave remake. However there already was a remake of it and, I believe a sequel to that remake, they could have I suppose made it into another sequel....
Its always hilarious when people complain about something and yet have no clue what they're talking about...It was literally a movie about a girl getting revenge on the men who raped her at the beginning.....
@@lutherheggs451 no it would've been gross because she would've used rape as a cudgel to beat you over the head with her political views. A slasher movie where a rape victim reclaims her power is engaging, empowering, cathartic. A slasher movie where a rape victim reclaims her power by smugly discussing the patriarchy and systemic misogyny is going to be both boring, but also wildly disrespectful to actual rape victims
@@anguishedcarpet It takes a lot of work to make the 2006 version look like the 1974 version of Black Christmas, but this version manages to do it--how this wasn't nominated for ANY Razzies, I don't know (it was right there, Razzie Awards)...
There is a trilogy of the spit on your grave remake and it's pretty decent.. Not as groundbreaking as a the original or as good as.. Revenge but still I watched all 3 on one sitting
I love when you two get together... and also riffing on a holiday movie? The best present!!
Some people who choose not to think too hard grouse at the idea that somewhere there are feminists loving this movie and it was all their fault it ever happened. That's a stupid assumption. Caring about an issue makes seeing it handled badly sickening. Being pandered to, poorly, on the insulting presumption that a quick buck can be made on an issue that weighs heavily on your life is sickening.
Finally. Someone with a clearer perspective on this garbage. I'm not surprised but very disheartened to see all the other "we want the feminists in this to die because wokeness/sjws/cancel culture is for pussies." Yeah. This ain't feminism. It's misogyny parading as feminism. White feminism. It's trash.
Holy Santa Christ it’s a Cinema snob & Nostalgia critic Crossover! Merry Christmas Doug & Brad.🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄☃️☃️☃️☃️☃️☃️🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻
I👏loved👏this👏review!!!👏 Great to see Snob and Critic and Santa Christ again-- let's me know Christmas is coming even though we don't get snow anymore! (I remember 2ft of snow as a kid and now barely a flurry...well now I am off to watch the 2006 remake)
Man Doug is, taller than Brad. I really hate, PG-13 horror movies. It was funny to me when Brad cut Laura off, when she was about to give her opinion about Black Christmas. Doug-You're 40! Brad-We're both 40. Doug-You're wearing a, fucking bunny suit!
They're are great PG 13 horror films.
Drag me to hell
1408
Oujia origin of evil
Insidious
Sixth sense
Split
The visit
Lights out
The Ring
The others
the mothman prophecies
Mama
The woman in black
Krampus
A quiet place
Man, Doug covered up multiple sexual assaults and Brad helped.
@@mttylerdurden9 don’t forget one of my all time favorite PG-13 horror movies: Tremors.
Appreciated the nod to “The Exorcist III”, tho. Not all great scares need be bloody.
That scene in Exorcist III is a masterclass of suspense.
This movie probably made more misogynists than anything else. Just having to watch the trailer made me want to see the main characters die slasherly.
Wanting to see misandrist die in a fictional film doesn't mean you're a misogynist.
It means you're normal.
Funny thing, when I saw this in theatre for a friend. It was literally just him and I in the theatre. Like the image they used.
Judas was cancelled for kissing Christ without his consent. I have to admit, I lost it there 🤣🤣...
Jesus was also probably still somewhat buzzed from the wine from the Last Supper. I vote for removing Judas from Da Vinci's Last Supper painting.
@Héctor Peñalver Jesus was a brave hero stepping forward to expose this monster!
If I recall from Scripture correctly, Judas cancelled himself. By hanging.
Brad, Doug and Rob as Santa Christ. What's not to love?
Wow, this movie is horrible. Good thing the review itself isn't, it was worth the wait!
Brad and Doug must have balls of steel to get through this movie again, you have my deepest respects.
Every time Brad says 'What? No,NO!', a snob gets its' wings.
Chris is the most self righteous, preachy, holier than thou character I have ever seen. Take her out of the movie and work the script a bit, and you could really make a decent horror film dealing with college rape culture.
Better yet, keep Chris in, remove the black goop, and turn her into the villain.
That way you can deliver a warning that even the best intents can turn the unwary into a monster, and not all victims are good people even if they're victims of violence
The male feminist in this movie is actually _extremely_ realistic. That is the awkwardness a man terrified of accidentally saying anything offensive. :L
Sounds exhausting.
Did they mean to make him creepy and dress him up as bill Cosby
@@KellogsR-ny7ugHave you met male feminists? They might not all dress like Cosby, but they are all pretty damn creepy. I wouldn't leave a woman in a room alone with one.
Props on the "Christmas Evil" ad. Best Christmas movie ever.
But, yeah, this movie was a bucket load of preachy ass.
i wish they'd also thrown in the ad for Don't Open Til Christmas or Silent Night Deadly Night.
I agree 100%! I watch it every year. Christmas evil is great.
More preachy than 80's cartoons.
This movie was actually helpful, at least I learned what a Diva cup is. 😊
Somehow seeing the Nostalgia Critic and Cinema Snob do a review together seems like so much fun everytime.
1. Lindsay "Queen of the SJWS" Ellis no doubt thinks this movie is a masterpiece. 2. Santa Christ got that soapbox from Steven Colbert, or Seth Myers. (I think Colbert WANTS Trump to come back so he can jump on the soap box and yell out "I TOLD YOU SO!!" a thing he loves to do...) 3. The wikipedia article has NO plot discription of this movie. 4. It's PG-13 horror. I HATE THAT. 5. He said "NOT ALL MEN!" He's EVIL and/or STUPID! KILL HIM!!! 6. Good call on calling out people going nuts on Chris Pratt. It's Chris Pratt! Who do you want to go after next, Ryan Reynolds?!
I get so excited when it happens!!
@@filmfangirls9163 I bet you do
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 they way they play off together is always a good time. I hope to see another crossover with Andre too!!
@@filmfangirls9163 Same
I happened to finally watch this film last week. I did not know whether to laugh or not cry throughout. Spoiler.
You know a film really has a message when the villain’s plan is to take over the world by killing off a few mildly annoying student activists.
Towards the end of this review, I found myself thinking "Wait, isn't this called Black _Christmas?"_ Was there even anything Christmas related in here? I think I saw a Christmas tree in one scene. That must count for something, right?
Now I need to rewatch the remake. Cinematic classic.
(Parodying the Cinema Snob's
*"SLEEPAWAY CAMP 3"* review)
7:03
Why would Cary Elwes said yes to this film?
He was in *"The Jungle Book"* (1994),
*"TWISTER",* *"ROBIN HOOD: Men In*
*Tights",* two *"SAW"* films, *"DRACULA"*
(1992), *"A Christmas Carol"* (2009),
and *"LIAR LIAR",* the 1997 comedy film
with Jim Carrey.
Hell, he was Wesley in *"The Princess Bride"!*
The French-Belgian Dodgeball Horror movie, Girls with Balls, is actually a great horror film about sisterhood and fighting back against murderous rapists!
Is it on Shudder?
Oooh. :)
Critic: Why'd ya take the job?
Snob: It's across from Auntie Ann's
Me: OH. HELL. YEAH.😂😋👌
"They were going to put up Albert Einstein, but they haven't looked through all of his old tweets to see if he's passed the purity test" LOL
Whenever I hear about a horror movie that might interest me, the moment I find out it is rated PG-13, I usually lose interest.
Watched this on HBO today, just to see if it was as bad as this review. Jesus Harold Jingleheimer Christ, you weren’t kidding. Thinking about it though, maybe this was trying to update teen character cliches, so the audience won’t mind seeing their deaths. In the 80s, slasher film teenagers were primarily drunken materialistic spoiled brats who were mainly just trying to get in each other’s pants. In the 90s, they were cynical pop culture junkies who were convinced they were too cool for school. And now, the characters are over opinionated, under experienced, addicted to causes as hobbies, and more a hashtag than a human.
Now I'm a progressive. I believe Black Lives Matter, trans rights are human rights, abortion is health care, etc. And I do think political messages in horror films can work if the movie is good.
This movie, however, is not. In fact, it's part of a current trend of movies and TV shows that try way too hard to show how woke they are. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's people trying too damn hard.
I almost saw it in theaters but my cousin cancelled. So I saw what I actually wanted to see; Jumanji: The Next Level
Here's the thing. The movie of a female taking revenge the serial killer route for men who raped and or wrong them has been done not only before. But also BETTER. I Spit On Your Grave is a movie that is empowering because she takes back her agency and her strength being a woman out smarting and killing her rapist by being a woman. Using her feminity and the ways she is a woman (sexually and other wise) to her advantage. Like a bad ass.
She becomes what all victims of these terrible crimes want to be. Whole; strong, and you get back a small bit of what was taken from you.
This movie doesn't want their woman to be strong they want them to think their strong where if they were even in the same situation as I Spit on Your Grave I don't think they'd be able to do anything. Because they're not strong their saying their strong. That doesn't make you a strong person
There's also Revenge but I don't know how that compares to I spit on your grave because I've only seen the dead meat kill count of revenge
@@geckokid8265 I Spit on Your Grave I feel hits hard because it doesn't shy away from the trauma that rape causes
THANK YOU!! Hell, Ms. 45 is a better movie as well too; it's like the director/writers didn't get what made movies like I Spit on your Grave or Ms. 45 actually make the message the movie is saying; even with all of the brutality; far better plus the main characters in both movies are relatable as well and not act like freakin Twitter bots
@@TrueBuddhaCat I don't think I seen Ms.45 yet. I saw I Spit on Your Grave because me and my mom seeked it out. And it stuck with us both. Having both been victims of abuse. My mom having been through the worst between us. It's like seeing if movies and media can convey the things we believe in.
Even if you have been a victim of such awful crimes doesn't mean you can't get up and fight back. That doesn't mean revenge sometimes getting up and walking on your own two feet is enough to knock the abuser down.
@@geckokid8265 love Dead Meat!! Revenge is amazing. Id say it stands tall next to Spit. Both are great rape revenge films!
Oh God, the cat at the end licking the ooze is gonna become the evil cat from Cats & Dogs.
It's so rare to see Cary Elwes speak in a British accent.
Unlike some other Robin Hoods, he can speak in an English accent.
It was interesting that throughout most of the 90s, he had a Southern accent going on for some films.
@@reikun86 I was hoping someone would make this joke. Thank you lol
@@PowerGlove79 You're welcome :D
If the Black Christmas movies were cocktails, the 1974 movie would be a professionally made cocktail, the 2006 remake would be a standard made cocktail that tastes weird but gets the job done, and this movie would be a very watered down mocktail made by someone who thinks they're a mixologist
I was looking forward to this remake review. but i was not expecting doug funny to be here, i just came from his channel!. we did not deserve this thnak you Snob and happy birthday and christmas.
I remember when PG13 had balls.
So is Cinema snob really short or is nostalga critic freakishly tall??
Nostalgia critic is 6 foot just like me. I think snob is legit 5’7 lol
Snob is a little on the short side. Critic is a little on the tall side. As a mid-sized nerd, I found that neither of them seemed ridiculously tall or short.
Yes
Both are what you said
Did that sorority house only have one entrance? You'd think it had a back door.
Wow, they actually did a Rape Squad remake where you'd rather root for the rapists.
And yet this disaster makes the remake of I Spit on your Grave look like a respectable remake of the original
@@TrueBuddhaCat that remake was actually good though.
The last joke about being forty just cracked me up
every time I hear "Hawthorn" in this movie I hope that Pierce/Cornelius would be the main villain of the movie. could you imagine?
Omg the opening music from Passion of the Santa Christ 😱🤯
And somewhere Seth Rogan said, “Hold my joint”
Holy shit, Julia Louis-Dreyfus was in Soul Man? Damn! She was also in the original 1986 Troll as well. It's called paying your dues, hahahaha!
I also thought, if this film just straight went for it in a "I spit on your grave" manner, this could have been an awesome movie.
By making it more misandristic than it already is?
@@16shogunelitegreen I meant by making it more unapologetically brutal so its at least entertaining in that regard.
“Don’t take my word for it. Just ask this scientist.
‘Well,-‘
He’ll tell you one animal invariably eats another.”
You just know this movie fails at being a slasher movie, let alone a remake of a horror classic when Kris turns out to be the worst, most obnoxious, hypocritical, and objectively horrible person in the entire cast yet she wasn't even meant to be a part of the movie's epic over the top death scenes (not that there's any) like most slasher movies would do. Also speaking of Kris, it sucks that there was actually an event where a school had a group of student "activists" petitioning for a damn boulder to be removed out of the school compound (just because they deemed it to be racist) and somehow managed to do it, but not before spending $40,000.
Yeah this is just a man hating film and as a WOMAN it hurts to see that this is was girls want to see man hating women in movies and tv shows.🐻
H... how is a boulder racist?
@@MegamanXfan21xx I have no idea.🐻
Growing up in a house where we didn’t watch R-Rated films, I loved getting my PG13 Slashers
This movie feels like it was made by people who hate activists, men, Christmas, and the horror genre.
If only.
oh god this flick is like Tumblr drank a bottle of Snchapps and it exited out both ends. at least the cat lived.
After so many Pureflix movies, doing a SJW slasher movie is a curious change.
When the house was burning at the end I was waiting for an Earth Shaking Kaboom. Where was the kaboom??
Hell, if you want a remake that has similar issues and deals with them in a FAR better way, Cinema Snob, watch the remake of the Invisible Man (2020)...
Hell, even the Slumber Party Massacre remake done by Syfy was better than this...
The what?! They remade what?!
Invisible Man was creepy as hell. Elizabeth Moss performance was amazing
You know a character is creepy when Brad has to whip out the Clay Walsh music!
The movie was preaching so much it forgot to actually scare the viewers.
I'm actually scared by the fact that someone saw the pitch of this movie and somehow greenlit it.
Now I wanna hear Laura's review.